Are potholes less damaging than speed bumps? - beamng drive
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I mean, you're not wrong, but as you showed, potholes encourage going faster, and the idea behind the speed bumb is to get drivers to go slower
if there's anything I learned from this video, it's that potholes do less damage the faster you go, unless they're too big in which case your car will be equally distributed across the road
"bump" there you go i corected you
well the potholes can stop people going 30 in a 60, its just as useful, it keeps slow drivers from causing disruptions on fast traffic, and fast drivers from causing disruptions in slow traffic
"corrected" here you go your typo has ben fixed
"been" there you goo i corrected you
You should test this again with speed bumps and pot holes of realistic size.
idk the speed bumps were pretty realistic
unless you mean bigger 🤔
@@rymikai no, he means smaller
@@rymikai he meant smaller
My mans used a fuckin colossal speedbump💀
bro used a speed hill not a speed bump
The problem with speedbumps is that they are usually excesively tall. You want people to slow down, not to fucking destroy their oil pans.
I’d be happy with that for me I’d probably lose everything at the bottom of my car from my exhaust, oil pan, and suspension since my car sets low
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I did that on a dip at a Wal-Mart...had to get towed home and replace my oil pan...Lol
On any road worthy car you won’t hit your oil pan lol. Did you lower your car or something?
all i want to say is, that speed bump is oversized
yeah lol
For a speeding car or a truck , i think the potholes are okay but for slower speed i think the speed braker are a best option
Speed bump, I’m guessing you mean.
@@Can_0_Worms well in my country we call it speed braker😅
@@tfsplayer2275 Different countries are very interesting on the pronunciation of things…
@@javadahmed5309 that's spelling but yeah, in Florida, we call them underused
because we have people going 30 mph in a 5, in a kid filled neighborhood to make it worst...
The whole point is to damage speeding cars whit speed bumps! Thats why they are calld "speedbumps" potholes are good for speeding couse you then have more air time, but if you go slow your car wil be damaged ore you wil get stuck! I think this guy did not out-smart the system, but the video whas kinda cool!😅
Our politicians in India understood this long time ago so they never repaired roads 🇮🇳❤️
Exactly
Sigma government
LOL jugaad
Same here in US
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Excellent demonstration of why speed bumps were chosen to slow traffic over speed potholes! 😂
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Ikr 💀🤣
You should be doing these at more normal speeds. 25-30mph, cuz those are speeds most people drive at, and it's not fast enough to create a velocity where the wheels barely fall off the ground. At 25mph, there is more time for the front of the car to dip.
Dry potholes aren't a bad idea but when it rains and fills with water, you've essentially induced aquaplaning unnecessarily. To rid this problem, expensive infrastructure is needed to keep them functional but bumps are rather cheap and self maintaining.
Also bumps are way more dramatic, that's an automatic win!
Actually when there’s water there may be more grip that in the air, so it’s actually aquagripping
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@@rccookie6202 yh but they can use it as drainage
The worst is when they fill with water and just look like a puddle, until you hit it and damage your wheels or suspension. Been there done that...
actually is a bad idea, you can see that there's no demanding even though they're going too fast, the principal idea is: if you don't slow down this is going to happen
with actual potholes that you come across on the road, their jagged edges can tear up your tires. plus, potholes are rarely long enough to affect both tires, meaning the suspension and tires will be more worn out on one side than the other, causing an imbalance.
Speed bumps are designed as a penalty system. You go fast, you pay the price of hearing your car suffer
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Exactly, people don’t realize that
Ur spine suffers also
Sort of, but that's more a byproduct of it not being able to stop you from going faster. They should be tuned so that you can go the stated speed limit without any issues and go a bit faster. We've got ones that are engineered to travel at roughly 30mph without any problems. But you will be tossed around a bit if you're going excessively fast.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade 3:26 lol. That's what speed bumps feel like.
Speed bumps are made so drivers learn to maintain moderate vehicle speed and slow down when they are visible. Speeding towards a speed bump is indeed damaging to the vehicle to teach those drivers to drive responsibly
Yes, and that's entirely the point, you're going to have knuckleheads that ignore the speed bumps and speed anyways, but for the rest of us, the penalty is usually relatively minor as most people don't speed by that much and it helps avoid having to write traffic tickets.
BeamNG: uses real world physics
Also BeamNG: snows inside a tunnel
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haha youre right
Realworld physics? i dont think so, have good destruction physics, but cars couldnt jump this way, with bumps o holes, simply because car´s suspension. Lowers car could suffer more in bumbs, and the holes could do a lot of damage in cars without low plate. Vehicles with bigs wheels are less afected by both.
Meh, "real world physics" could be interpreted as many times different as many laws of kinetics * calculation simplifications there are. Simple fact: lab computers more expensive compared to gaming ones, while having less Flopps, why? They are more precise.
100% not real physics
Thanks for showing us why speedbumps are more effective than potholes , pothole do basically less damagr the faster you go so they encourage you to go faster , speedbumps damage your car if you go fast over them so they encourage you to slow down , and also if you go slow over a pothole your frontwheel will get stuck ... And if you go fast enough over it you wont even get slowed down ...
This test is totally unfair. Given the reason for which speedbumps exist you should try to approach both the structures with a lower speed, instead of faster. And then you'll see which one of the two deals less damage with speed being slower (a little spoiler: it's the speedbump). It's a funny video, and beamng crashes are entertaining to watch, but it's definitely not informative.
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Also speed bumps are much more visible than potholes...driver can decelerate better in case of speed bumps than potholes.
@@dizzieboy4656 I don’t think it was meant to be an informative video lmao
@@iamefghwr4522 agreed. However when do you ever hit a pothole across both sides at the same time
also for this to be fair potholes would need more rounded edges, reversing a shape doesn't make it fair.
Yes there are some ungodly holes and bumps 😂
This channel is pure gold
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The issue here is that most of the potholes you placed made the car smack into a curb while mid air. I get that both of them are supposed to do damage but a realistic pothole (which wouldn't even be this big) would have an even height both on the entrance and exit.
true, but potholes are usually non-perfect circles tho, making the entry and exit not sync-ed.
@@Looo0007 It still wouldn't rip the entire bottom end off of the car though.
The whole point is to damage speeding cars whit speed bumps! Thats why they are calld "speedbumps" potholes are good for speeding couse you then have more air time, but if you go slow your car wil be damaged ore you wil get stuck! I think this guy did not out-smart the system, but the video whas kinda cool!😅
Yeah
it can have uneven height on entrance and exit, if the road is broken and sank a little bit due to erosion under it
You are comparing apples and oranges. Each serves a different purpose. To teach laws of physics this is perfect.
Big fan of the simulation, placing beams and all. Good work
I would argue that the biggest issue with this video is the high-speed testing: your previous video about "what speed do cars have to go to jump over potholes?" showed that the faster a car moves, the larger a pothole it can safely cross.
At extremely high speeds, everything can cross potholes with minimal damage, since at most it will only be the bottom of the tires falling enough to hit the far end of the pothole.
At the same time, the faster you go into a speed bump, the less time your car's suspension has to adjust to the new road height, and the larger your vertical velocity will become after some of your horizontal speed is changed to a vertical bounce by the bump.
Speed bumps are literally designed to be crossed at low speeds, and potholes are also the most devestating at medium speeds (slow enough for the car's frame to fall into contact with the far end, but fast enough to have a large amount of kinetic energy at play when the car's forward velocity instantly drops to 0).
This plus the speed bumps seemed so fucking steep in this, and it literally launched cars into the air. Maybe it's just a country thing, but I have never seen a speed bump this tall and this steep.
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Yeah right , seems like people forgot these are suposed to be driven over slowly , you drive slowly over a pothole and the front of your car goes straight into the hole and gets fucked
@@EmilyAliceTempest I have seen some nasty speed bumps in Slovakia, having the T3 Syncro I usually don't slow down and hit them easily in around 30mph, but the bad ones did launch me in the air even in those low-ish speeds. So yes, they do exist at least somewhere. :-D
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Generally I would recommend drivers to slow down whenever they approach speed bumps or potholes. The video is just an illustration of the danger of not slowing down on speed bumps, but taking note that potholes are not 100% safe
Yes, speed bumps are installed with a specific speed in mind, if you drive that speed, then there should be little issue with driving over it. The ones that people are most used to are ones that are designed to be driven at like 5mph, but I've seen ones engineered for 25-30mph by making them much longer and going the designed speed you still have a very smooth ride.
Well, speed bumps usually dont start at a near 90 degree angle so that the front bumper goes straight into them. (Atleast what i have seen)
Try the hospital speed bumps in NZ, those sob’s are like squares and are angry as hell
I have a lot of them in my city deigned at a pretty high angle and it suck since my car sets low from factory
either does the potholes, especially the part after the lowest part, wich looks like a speed bump set diagonally, otherwise the violent surface change would make the wheel jump at regular driving (and encourage speeding up), so they are a bit less deep, but longer
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Try some of the plastic inserts some industrial lots use. It is impossible to drive over those without feeling like you're on a knifeblade.
...when car encounters pothole car's drivetrain slows down, but driver has tendency to fly out the car's windshield (blue car on 4:30 basically has destroyed windshield). Speed bump on the other hand forces whole car upwards keeping driver inside. Unfortunately when car ultimately lands driver will suffer secondary hit from below where there's no airbags.
Hitting a pothole with wheels can make significant damage to rims and tires since potholes have "sharp" edges. Speed bumps on the other hand have rounded edges so in theory there won't be any significant damage to the rims and tires is speed is adequate...
Hence proved that speedbumps are effective tools to deter overspeeding.
Hahah exactly! This test is dumb. Need to go slower
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Depends on the size of the speedbump. If it's smaller than the loaded suspension travel on your vehicle then usually it's more comfortable to cross them at extremely high speeds. Some guy made a video testing this in real life.
Issue is: speed bumps are MORE damaging the faster the car is on impact, but potholes are LESS damaging the faster the car is
that, like this video, is not how physics works
@@SlimJimZA and that is exactly the point. /s
@@SlimJimZA actually yes it is, the faster the car is going the less of the tire will go into the hole. If the car is moving at a fast enough speed the wheels will glide over the hole and make contact with the other side on top of the road with any occupants in the vehicle feeling nothing but a slight bump. The slower the car is the more the tire will go down
I suppose it all depends on speed; if you’re going fast enough, you may just glance straight over the pothole without being affected by it too much. On the contrary however, if you speed into a speedbump, it’ll send you flying much like in the video. Alternatively, if you go slowly over a pothole, your car will sink into it of course and it’ll be a much bumpier, disorienting maneuver, whereas if you go slowly over a speedbump, (like you’re supposed to) basically nothing will happen, unless you’re in a very low-to-the-ground super car, then the bottom may have a risk of getting scratched up a little. Probably not, I don’t know much about cars lol
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@@gamings.d4907 dont watch , dont care
The thing i have learned from my experience till now is either go very slow or go very fast
(Ofc in some cases slow is the only option)
In New Zealand around our hospitals and stuff like that we have these speed bumps that are more square, they have very steep angles, it would be interesting to see those tested!
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thats y in my country, which is Malaysia, our government “provide” us with several types of potholes on every road & highway.. those accidents that happen due to the potholes, tend to be drivers mistake.. only until one of our minister involve with accident that due to the potholes, then it will be the potholes fault..
Welcome to Malaysia! 🥰
I was actually thinking, what are beams? And to my surprise you immediately answered it.
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Thing is, speed bumps are expected and marked unlike potholes. Therefore the opposite will be true in reality regarding damage.
I really wish more places followed the Vermont way when it comes to speed bumps.
Burlington designed theirs on the road to reward those that stick to the speed limit while punishing those who go past a certain speed.
Contrast that to almost everywhere else I've been where they punish you just for existing with SpEed CuSHioNs
How do they reward people?
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Speed cushions are the work of the devil
@@benclimo461 You can drive over it without having to slow down at all. Which would technically be a reward by way of removing the negative consequence of breaking the rule. It also means that there's less reason to post cops along the road to write tickets as the speed bump reduces speed whether there's a cop there or not.
the intension of that hamps, is to slow down the vehicles, it is usually place in downhill area, before itersections and pedestrian lanes. it is for the reckless driver who did not follow the road safety.
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Bond attempting to escape the bad guys and hitting a speed bump be like:
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In my country "speedbump" is called "spring breaker" (Quebra-Mola), I think you can see why
I'm Brazilian
So unless you want to die you have to slow down, so it's effective 😅
The speed bump's purpose is for you to slow down specially on residential and public areas and prevent accidents,if potholes won't damage a vehicle when they're overspeeding then what's even the point of placing something like that in there..
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Engineers are much educated for this that they made speed bumps not poth holes . In pothholes only speeding car or vehicle can pass otherwise it ll stuck but that's not the case in bumps.pothholes causes very acute pressure on the tyre which can lead to breaking of alloy of car or other mishaps like suspension allignment issues.
"I have to say speed bumps ain't looking too good right now"
the irony is that the "pothole" ferrari skidded off line and the driver door slammed into the freeway divider at potentially fatal speed...
meanwhile, the "speed bump" ferrari actually maintained a good posture and kept enough structure that when it landed the car skidded to a safe stop.
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That was fatal
Conclusion: Car pal really likes roof lines made by bumps
Potholes were made to encourage slow drivers to go faster (at least on the highway, but who would put artificial potholes on a highway?)
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For speeders, that's what will happen. For those who abide the traffic rules, they will be safe no matter the kind of speed reducing structure.. But speed bump it more practical. You can't slow down on pothole or you'll never get out of it 😆
They have opposite effecs on the hollow one you will crash if you are too slow
And on the bulged one you will crash if you are too fast
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That's why they should be used too. So many slow drivers.
The major issue with a pothole is when the tyre smashes on the edge of the pothole which almost certainly destroys any wheel with a low profile(small sidewall) tyre as the tyre cannot absorb the impact leading to rim damage. On the other hand the suspension should be able to adjust according to the profile of the speed bumps when the vehicle is traveling whithin the bump's designed speed range. BTW Great Video 😁👍🏻
You just proved that potholes encourages speeding, the exact opposite of what bumps are made for.
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I mean it’s kind of an unfair test as speeding over a speed bump will almost ALWAYS damage your car and going the same speed over a pothole with do near to no damage at all however if you was to get driving at a much slower speed then you’d find the results will most likely be different
Yes, and the whole point of a speed bump is to be drivable at the designed speed, but potentially dangerous and damaging when you exceed that design specification. Pot holes are usually only a few inches deep, at most, as they're usually holes in the blacktop down to the underlying concrete. Probably not that great for the tires and suspension, but since it's below the axle, it should be a bit easier as you go faster.
At 6:58 I love how the red car became a plane with front turbines like it was it's job
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I think this proves why we use speed bumps to slow cars down
Using a less damaging pothole defeats the purpose
The beam counter should just be on all the time, since it's just awesome to see how much damage can be done. The next challenge should be to dreak or deform all the beams...
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What about motorbikes? how come your little 'Beams counter algorithm' left that out Einstien!
one thing, speedbumps rarely are as tall and sharp, potholes will blow your tire quite easily.
4:01 I love how it continues to snow even inside the tunnel.
I was gonna say the same thing. Must be something inherent to the software programming (a glitch). :) Personally, I don't mind it, cos it gives a Christmasy atmosphere.
Edit: Merry Christmas/happy holidays BTW. 🎄🕎
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In the state i live in (arizona), im starting to see that cities are starting to use more potholes than speedbumps, specifically in neighborhoods. However, they arent called potholes, they're called "Dips", which in my opinion, are a much safer option, and punish those who go fast, more than a speedbump typically does.
2:05 how to turn ur cheap sedan into a Lamborghini for free
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Bro you're vids are great, love the detail and realistic scenarios.
Love this channel. I would have loved to see smaller ones instead of bigger ones :)
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"Yes, officer, I know how fast I was going. The faster I go, the less damage potholes inflict!"
4:21 *wheels have left the chat*
This was a fun video. It just reinforces my theory: When in doubt, Gas It!
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Admit it guys, we all knew the answer, even though, it was so fun to watch
"This just in: speed bumps responsibly for 30% of deaths among first responders, and buses declared the most lethal vehicles to ride on the road"
the pothole is gonna be a nightmare for anyone without any clearance.. *cough cough* supercar drivers *cough cough*
no it isnt, watch the video
You'd think that'd be the case but it's wrong.
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I have literally lost a tyre to a pothole while driving at 60kmph. These tests assume a perfect suspension which can uncompress and compress perfectly without any delay or without passing on any of the impact. It also does not take into account what the sudden lip does to a fully compressed tyre.
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CLAAAARKSOOOOOOOON!!!
P.S.: I had to do it.
Well pot holes are generally just a nuisance but speed bumps are a huge headache. The speed bump are often made larger then needed so people don't just fly over them, but often the only reasonable way to safely pass speed bumps is to completely slow down.
I get the “beams” as part of the car- but I’ve always wondered what the NG stood for??
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it is short for ing?
@@gamings.d4907 no ads nub
"next generation"
I was walking and hurt my leg on a speed bump.
I walked a bike path for 15 years, no bump.
The walkway declines into road to allow bikers to ride on smoothly, but with the speedbump there now I slammed my foot into it while power walking and almost hyper extended my leg and tripped.
these aren't speed bumps, these are speed walls
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Main point being that speed bumps are more visible so one can easily slow down and minimise damage. With potholes on the other hand you are less likely to notice until it's too late. As a mechanic it's more likely that people have troubles to their vehicle after a nasty pothole they missed rather than because they got their car airborne off a speedbump
Never seen the ones with snow before, I don’t think. You should do some more like that CarPal 🤔 especially for the holidays 😊
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Maybe because you made the speedbump a half cylinder which isnt really a speedbump, more like a really bad ramp. And the car going over the pothole is going fast enough that it just goes right over the "pothole"
What is the purple car in the beginning ? Got a link fot that? 1:24
I never knew I needed to see this until now, I played Blur-song 2 to the whole video and it just matches so well, go destruction !!!
0:32 what mod is that and where can I find it?
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Luckily for us, Speed Bumps aren’t just placed randomly into highways where you are going way over 30 miles a hour. Fun to watch car flailing about but not really riveting commentary on Speed Bumps and Potholes.
There is a disadvantage for speedbums that they will make the car jump and cars landing is too bad that's one of the reason they are getting more damage
It's supposed to happen like that so drivers are encouraged to slow down when going through speed bumps
@@DviousDingle yea ik I was telling from the video
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So fundamantaly the aim is to slow cars down. That's why we put speedbumps in areas like residential zones or school zones. We don't want cars barreling down at 100mph just to avoid some beam deformation in those areas. So the right thing to hit on the road would be the breaks.
Let's be honest, who's gonna be running into speed bumps at highway speeds
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i would say it's a good informative video but i have no idea how accurate beamng actually is
informative but a bad test
speed bumps are literally designed to prevent people from going fast, while potholes do less damage the faster you go
BeamNG is pretty accurate, though potholes will never be an intentionally made concrete trench. Thus in real life, it's not often so rewarding to skip over a pothole quickly. They're randomly shaped, placed and there can be more where there's one. Plus their elevation levels can at times be different. So you simply just wanna avoid going over/into them. Speedbumps... well apart from them never being so huge as in the video, are usually best if ya go over em slow. That's why they're speedbumps...
It's not informative at all - it's so wrong on so many levels. Though it's fun.
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"Clarkson's hammer" got me rolling
K, after watching the whole video, ill rewrite my comment (lil too eager to share my thoughts).
The tests were good, but quite unfair and unreasonable. If youre gonna test something, test for its best form/shape. Both need to be the best shape they can be to test which one is better at the job without doing unnecessary damage to vehicles. Secondly, how do they wear, as time goes on and more vehicles pass over and weather beats on the devices. Ik its just a game, but im incredibly curious as to applications. We have very small "buzzers" on each side of the rode but they are meant to make noise, alert the driver. I did truly enjoy the tests, very interesting. Just being overly curious about realistic application.
The speedbumps are made to slow down cars lol. If there are potholes instead of speed bumps, there will literally 0 safety for pedestrians.
You've got one acting like a ramp at high speeds...that's always going to be worse 😆
Reading the title and yes. Speed bumps are obviously more damaging. They force the tire to the top of the bump very quickly while potholes don't suck the wheels down. Cars with higher rebound would be more affected than cars with hard suspension.
Omg seeing the car go airborne on the speed bump made me laugh my ass off.
In Brazil, you cannot ride more than 120 km/h, if you go beyond that, say goodbye to your car's suspension. you know why?
BECAUSE ROADS ARE FILLED WITH POTHOLES BUT THEY ARE BETTER KNOWN JUST AS HOLES
come to bruhzil
It is the speed of the vehicle that actually causes. the damage . Hence being slow could be the best option .
Potholes look more dangerous (i mean literally) cuz let's be honest, if you see a hole on the streets while driving a car you imagine falling down with the car( if it's big enough) or getting a tire stuck.
Then speed bumps, it's more of an unconscious thing knowing at the back of your mind, you must slow down or else you know the consequences (the car getting destroyed at the front), or you can also get a thought like "Faq it, ram it" and then take your chances.
Speed bumps are supposed to be highly visible bumps that encourages drivers to actually slow down to pass over it, they're not surprise infrastructure of destruction. In real world application potholes are way worse than a speed bump because you can't see most of them until they're almost in front of you, they feel like your entire car is slamming down on the road especially for lower sedans with stiffer suspensions, and if the pothole is just big enough will catch your car's tire and make you stuck until someone comes and helps you push or pull your car out.
Car Pal- Potholes give less damage
Everyone- if you go slow on them, you are stuck in a hole
Yeah, but what about lower speeds. As in someone doing a 60 in a 30 mph zone. Or someone pealing out of a parking lot doing 40? At more realistic speeds rather than highway speeds which is worse? When you're fast you can possibly glide over a pothole, but when you're going fast, but not so fast as to go over the pothole you're looking at a much... different situation. You always do high end, worse case scenario speeders, but this doesn't answer my question around actually driven speeds.
"there are some ungodly sized holes and bumps"
*Proceed with holes and bumps as big as cars* 😂
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7:34 The real reason the 1900-1940's cars have the most safety is because since cars in those days were so dangerous, people were preferring horses instead, so most car companies made the cars less dangerous (of course they were still dangerous, but since they go so slow, it was a major win for the car companies in those days.)
A simple explanation is that with enough speed, the wheel does not have time to descend deep into the whole, effectively making it shallower, whereas the wheels have to clear the full height of the bump all the time.
Try lowering the height of the speed breaker and depth of the pothole to reasonable standard (1 foot maybe) and then see the results.
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Well the point of a speedbump is to punish you for going too fast. They are also much easier to build and maintain
Potholes vary in size and may affect only one tire. Whereas you're almost guaranteed to make relatively equal contact with both sets of tires, working each set simultaneously
The reason potholes are doing less damage is because they're oversized. In real life, potholes are dangerous because they unbalance your car, making you likely to swerve off the road, as well as slamming the suspension on the wheel that hits it. In this simulation, the speed bumps are doing more damage because they're basically a jump. XD
You do know, that speedbumps are for... slowing wehicles down, while potholes are ineffective for this purpose above a certain speed. You do know that, right?
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