UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Yes... Kawhi is better than LBJ by far.... You see Shannon never addresses the LBJ having so many good players on his team.... 2. He said "was" when LBJ was younger.... We talking bout right now... Kawhi is a better clutch shooter, Better decision maker and better all around player...
Somewhat. Kawhi has to be more dominant because no one else on the Spurs team can. Lebron will sometimes just let Kyrie take over. No one on the Spurs can take over a game other than Kawhi
Colins Johnson kawhi is a better shooter but that's pretty much it. LeBron is a better decision maker he knows how to get his other players to score better than kawhi does. And LeBron is the better all around player. The only thing kawhi has over LeBron is shooting. You said "by far" I mean come on lol it's close but LeBron is still over him
Ghost Boy lol I hate Skip too but his opinion isn't wrong by any stretch. If u watch Kawhi, what u see is the best two way player in the game who can score all over the floor. Also the best defense in the NBA. Not saying I agree just saying that Skip, for once, has good evidence to back up his statement
GLO • ENT - He was 25 in the 2009 - 2010 season. Same age as Kawhi. Please dont talk basketball Stephsexual. www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html
Are you saying the Spurs have a better supporting cast than Lebron in Cleveland? The reason why the Spurs are 5-0 without Leonard is because Pop rests his players against the weakest teams knowing that his team is still capable of winning.
Mike Michaux the Spurs are robots. they dont lose to teams they are supposed to beat no matter who's playing or sitting out. its been this way since Coach Pop's very 1st season
I am a huge Spurs and Kawhi Leonard fan but Kawhi is not more dominant LeBron. You can definitely say they're on the same level in the regular season with the edge still going to LeBron imo, but come playoffs LeBron is a different animal. Kawhi has always averaged slightly better stats in the post season compared to his regular season...... but LeBron's increase in production from regular to post season is just crazy, Kawhi can prove himself in the post season but he hasn't yet. They're both in the top 3 players in the world.
Joy cracks me up 😂 so it was okay when LeBron was "traveling" for your team the Heat right? 😂😂😂😂😂 Shannon is a little extra sometimes but Skip and Joy are butthurt af.
I think what people don't talk about Kawhi is his passing ability. I watched that game vs Pelicans the other night and he had a huge impact in OT without scoring but just by his defense and passing. He also made a lot of good decisions during the OT of Wolves-Spurs game the following night.
Nobody in Spurs history ever got a lot of assists, because Pop system doesn't require 1 guy to always have the ball. LBJ Westbrook and Harden have inflated stats, because they always have the ball. They're still amazing players, but I don't think they would put up the same numbers if you put them on the Spurs or Warriors.
Zamir #GoPackGo Kawhi is the best defensive player in the game. But on a scale of 1-10 on defense he's a ten and Lebron is about an 8.5-9. I would take Lebron because he's only a little worse than Kawhi on defense and then he does basically everything else better.
HoopLife Productions LeBron is capable of being a better defender than kawhi. But he obviously doesn't exert his energy like that in the regular season. & im someone who thinks kawhi is probably second to LeBron
Sean Legghette LBJ is the best in the league, but keep in mind Kawhi isnt even in his prime. Also Kawhi being on the Spurs only prevents him from scoring 30 ppg and rebounding as much or more than Lebron, because the spurs team is balanced. Why do you think Kawhi is averaging around 30 ppg when Pau Gasol is on the bench or not playing? Pau on the starting lineup made it a fully offensive starting five where Kawhi got less touches. Also Kawhi doesnt have a Kyrie Irving or Kevin Love or Alley-oop monster (Tristan) or Kyle Korver to pass the ball to and get a bunch of assists from
Last year he finished second in MVP voting, was a favorite entering this season, and has got plenty of props for improving his offensive game this season. He's no longer underrated.
people are shitting on LeBron for wanting a team, he is no longer in his prime which was from 2007-2013. LeBron will only be the best in the league for 2 or 3 more years he needs to win as many chips as possible before he retires. Kawhi isnt even in his prime yet and plays for the best coach of all time and has a ring he doesn't need to complain
The Flash 2024 Its wanting a team and its complaing about your team when already have the second most stacked roster in the NBA. I lost a little respect for Bron when he did that this year.
The Flash 2024 I think LeBron is still in his prime. Physically he may not be the same....but his awareness for the game is un parralled right now. I think he is also coasting a bit. He doesn't want to use all his energy every night. He knows his objective is to be ready for June. If his main objective was to be the best 2 way player in the regular season, I guarantee he could be, but he's playing conservative.
Matthew Crawford true. If Lebron wanted too he could of averaged a triple double this season. He's averaging 26/8/9 right now and it's so obvious he isn't playing nearly as hard as he could/should. But if he did I have no doubt in my mind that 26/8/9 would be 29/10/11 or something.
Kawhi is constantly overlooked. He's the best two-way player in the league right now and its not even close. He's a great defender and really, really good offensive player. Would love to see him get a few more rebounds but with Gasol and Aldridge, there isn't a need. If Lebron is 1, then Leonard is 1B.
You Guys are amazing! your show is very entertaining. God Bless your show!!! to Mr. Shannon and Mr. Skip you guys are highly educated as far as what's going on to The Sports World !!!! Hands Down to you both.
Nah man that don't matter! GAME 7! GAME 7! GAME 7! I think that's the entire last 5 minutes of this whole argument and completely turned a blind eye to the follow Finals and this past game.
Kawhi Leonard is a boss, and there's no arguing against that. But LeBron is still the greatest player playing right now. I know that Skip is just playing a character (he's too smart to actually believe the hate he has for Lebron) that is devil's advocate af, but it's sad that his "thought processes" are what/how basketball casuals argue. >What about the last 5 minutes? >What about the last 30 seconds? >Let me just discard what a great quarter, great game, or great series he had.
After seeing what Kwahi did to my wolves. It's hard to argue against him. He held Andrew Wiggins to 6/24 for 17 points. Before this game, Wiggins was averaging 31 ppg after all star break on 56% shooting. He also just completely took over the game at the end. So poised and couldn't be stopped.
Kawhi is the beast, he's more dominant than Lebron, he's playing with horrible team, Parker should retired last year, Patty is the worst defender in the NBA history, Green don't know how to dribble the ball, Pau in his late prime, LA is shown that he's in his final year in the NBA, come on, Kawhi deserve MVP this year.
Remember people this is the same guy who thought Tim Tebow was the second coming of Christ, said Adrian Peterson is overrated and has said time and Time again that LeBron is Overrated, he's a stat stuffer and he doesn't have a Clutch gene. Do not believe a word this man says
The Flash 2024 while everything u said above is true, Skip actually has a good point here. IMO, LeBron is still better than Kawhi but by a small margin and they're on the same level
+steelersfan101 nah, it's still by a good margin. Kawhi isn't on his level. Kawhi is considered the best TWO way player, LBJ, the best ALL AROUND. Kawhi got show up in the playoffs first, I have a hard time even saying he's better than Durant, let alone the same level as Lebron.
+SteelersFan 101 Kawhi isn't on lebrons level. The cavs are 4-20 without lebron. They're champions and a 55+ win team with him. Do you realize how valuable he is. Lebron is still head and shoulders above the entire league.
quan Brooklyn kid he didn't even complete 50% of his passes. The league average is like 65% now. The man can't throw a football but he "deserves" a chance?
in the regular season it can be argued that Kawhi is the best player if you value defense as much as offense, which some fans dont Harden, Westbrook dont really play defense, even Lebron has coasted on defense since 2014, however in the playoffs Lebron turns it up on the defense
Lebron was 22 (just a baby but actually Skip's way of giving Kawhi an excuse for messing up in 2013 but he'll happily hold it against Lebron) when he took a subpar Cavaliers team to the NBA Finals where he took on a prime Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker. All NBA vets compared to him and almost certainly hall of famers. Sure he got swept but if you look at the scores and watched the games they were very close games and went down to the wire. Oh yea and they had the GOAT coach Gregg Popovich. So no Skip Kawhi is not on the same level as Lebron. Kawhi is dominant defensively but he doesnt scare teams the way Lebron does.
no, pull up some stats that say other wise. Kawhi is a better defender and shooter. Thats about it. Lebron is a far superior passer, scorer, rebounder, rim finisher etc......
Team record is a "Team" achievement. We are comparing individuals and you need to reevaluate your understanding of being a better player. Lebron plays in the eastern conference but he's still the best player in the planet, especially after he just won a ring.
Yea because Kawhi was on a better team. Lebron had a injured wade and Bosh who were non existent. Kawhi plays good defense but he certainly doesn't shut down lebron.
Kawhi is better than lebron atm. You haven't been watching both teams this year if you disagree.kawhi CARRIES the Spurs, lebron has all the help out there Kyrie, Love, Korver, JR, williams and the cavs STILL ain't better than the Spurs.
Uelese Vavae look at win % with LeBron compared to without. Jr has been out since new years so that's an irrelevant name to add. korver cannot get shots unless there is another player drawing attention, without LeBron the Cavs have no superstar attention drawing players. LeBron turns a non playoff team into a title contender, kawhi will not. it's simple & I think you're very wrong about Leonard being a better player than LeBron James .
Wait what about those 5 3's Lebron drained on kawhi and the spurs in game 7 of the 2013 NBA Finals??? Oh and Lebron hit the game clinching mid range shot to put them up and iced the game with 2 free throws (shot 8/8 from the FT line btw). But yeah, Lebron still ain't clutch...
yup no clutch gene he only led both teams in points rebs assists steals and blocks in last years finals also led his team back from 3-1 this isnt even a discussion anymore
Kawhi is very good but I'm sorry I don't see how everyone says he's a top3 player if we took him off spurs and put him in the leagues worst team Brooklyn nets I don't think he gets them to the playoffs if you put lebron kd harden Russ or steph on the nets I think they get at least 8 seed kawhi is really good but I just don't see top3 when I look at him he benefits from playing on an all time elite franchise spurs are always top 2 team in west so when a team is winning fans and reporters seem to hype a player up on that team for example when Paul George was taking it to Miami and lebron everyone said he was a top 3 top 5 player now we see he is not last yr with steph everyone was saying he's the best player in the world he is not when derrick rose won MVP everyone was saying he's gonna dethrone the king he couldn't to me in my opinion the top 2 players for about the past 5 or so yrs have been lebron 1 and kd 2
Derrick Canales lebron and kd can most definitely take nets to 8th seed with j Lin and brook Lopez the other players I named maybe not but I think they have a higher chance than kawhi
Barselini ™ what makes him better than Durant he's a better on ball defender that's it Durant shoots better passes better Durant dribbles better they average same bills and same stls Durant is more efficient Durant draws more fouls than kawhi to put other team in foul trouble kawhi is a very good player but jus because he's the best on ball defender in the league doesn't make him a better player than Durant put some respeck on kd name you don't have to like him but he's #2 and has been for a very long time
LeBron has a supeteam. The Spurs are no where comprable to Cleveland yet they are 2nd in the West with a better record than Cleveland. Kawahi is better.
Kawhi is a great player... He has the scariest potential I ever seen. He gets better ever year..... Lebron is the best, but I think Kawhi has potential to become the best and if he sticks with Pop he will win more rings
nRexxy You're telling that LeBron wouldn't make it to the finals on a western team? HAHAHAHAHA. LeBron would carry the Spurs to at least 4 straight championships.
Put lebron on the lakers and he'll have to face the warriors, spurs, rockets, Jazz, Memphis, thunder or clippers. Lebron won't survive in the west and won't make 6 straight finals.
Sky Seeker LeBron makes his team better we all know that. They won't make the finals every year but they'd make 2-3/6. LeBron on any playoff contender NOW is a different story.
Dont get me wrong Kawhi is an amazing player. Defiantly a top player in the nba but lets not forget who's Kawhi's coach. Gregg Poppovich is one of the greatest coaches ever there record is that great because Popp knows what he's doing. That team could still win without Kawhi although they wouldnt win a title but they'd still have a chance to compete
A. "This two minute report is correct because it goes against a player/team I dislike." B. This two minute report is wrong because it goes against a player/team I like." There's a reason other sports media analysts (including Joy when she worked in Miami) speak out against Skip.....
Probably how Skips job interview went: Fox Sports: What ridiculous opinions can you bring to the show? Skip: Even though LeBron lead both teams in every significant stat, I think Kyrie should've been the Finals MVP FS1: You're hired
but LeBron has stepped up his 3pt shoot to 39% this season and the Cavs still are 0-5 without him. Kawhi is amazing but the spurs can still be good without him on some games, that means LeBron is more valuable as a player to the Cavs than kawhi is to the spurs. I have LeBron or Kawhi as mvp
People are afraid of kawhi guarding them. James harden was literally saying give me a screen get him off. that transition from game winner to game winning block shot was MVP caliber.
It's really insane that the sport of basketball has revolved around the name LeBron for 14 years. Dude is 32 and plays on cruise control until the playoffs then puts up insane numbers even in years that he loses lol.
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Do you agree with Skip?
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 We need to see them duke it out in the Finals one more Time.
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Disagree
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Yes... Kawhi is better than LBJ by far.... You see Shannon never addresses the LBJ having so many good players on his team.... 2. He said "was" when LBJ was younger.... We talking bout right now... Kawhi is a better clutch shooter, Better decision maker and better all around player...
Somewhat. Kawhi has to be more dominant because no one else on the Spurs team can. Lebron will sometimes just let Kyrie take over. No one on the Spurs can take over a game other than Kawhi
Colins Johnson kawhi is a better shooter but that's pretty much it. LeBron is a better decision maker he knows how to get his other players to score better than kawhi does. And LeBron is the better all around player. The only thing kawhi has over LeBron is shooting. You said "by far" I mean come on lol it's close but LeBron is still over him
this man lebron could cure cancer and skip would still find a way to belittle him lol
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Ethan Loriot
Heck even if LeBron saved the human race from an Alien invasion he would say Kyrie deserves all the credit
Ethan Loriot true
he would say "well Michael Jordan cured AIDS on the first trial run"
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! You're exactly right Good one Ethan and Duvious!!!
And Stephen A. Smith is a little more dominant than Skip Bayless
Blank Face 😂😂true
DeSean Jackson #Jaccpot #0ne0fone #1hunna lmao
yelling doesnt make you dominant it shows you are simple minded that thinks the louder voice is right
Darth Weeaboo stop it, youre just an idiot
Blank Face true
Skip getting more and more ridiculous each episode lol.
keefriff99 haha seriously 😂.
Ghost Boy they need views. He's disagreeing just to disagree. No argument if skip keeps it real. Haha
Ghost Boy lol I hate Skip too but his opinion isn't wrong by any stretch. If u watch Kawhi, what u see is the best two way player in the game who can score all over the floor. Also the best defense in the NBA. Not saying I agree just saying that Skip, for once, has good evidence to back up his statement
I'm curious what are a true thoughts of Skip Bayless.
CoutinhoPogba IMO Skip's an insane hater who says things to fit his quota and to destroy LeBron's legacy. But not in this video
I don't know if kawhi is better at this time than lebron. but i know one thing the guy he is underrated
Lebron 2009 season: 29.7pts, 8.6ast, 7.3 rebs, 1.6 stls, 1.0 blks. 50%fg 33%on 3's won MVP and was top 5 in DPOY voting
Kawhi at 25 2017: 26pts, 3.4 ast, 6.0 rebs, 1.9stls, 0.7 blks. 48%FG 37% on 3's
Curry's Dad 2009 Lebron didn't average 29 in 2009 he averaged 28.4 bronsexual
GLO • ENT that's a .6 difference
GLO • ENT - He was 25 in the 2009 - 2010 season. Same age as Kawhi. Please dont talk basketball Stephsexual.
www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html
Curry's Dad wait, what does this have to do with anything? who's better now is the question, not who's better at 25.
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The Spurs are 4-0 without Leonard. The Cavs are above .700 with LeBron and .300 without him. LeBron nr. 1, Leonard nr. 2 Stop being bias Skip
cause every player is made to compliment lebron lol. Spurs are a sports team. Cavs are a lebron team.
Are you saying the Spurs have a better supporting cast than Lebron in Cleveland? The reason why the Spurs are 5-0 without Leonard is because Pop rests his players against the weakest teams knowing that his team is still capable of winning.
who you talkin to
Mike Michaux the Spurs are robots. they dont lose to teams they are supposed to beat no matter who's playing or sitting out. its been this way since Coach Pop's very 1st season
I am a huge Spurs and Kawhi Leonard fan but Kawhi is not more dominant LeBron. You can definitely say they're on the same level in the regular season with the edge still going to LeBron imo, but come playoffs LeBron is a different animal. Kawhi has always averaged slightly better stats in the post season compared to his regular season...... but LeBron's increase in production from regular to post season is just crazy, Kawhi can prove himself in the post season but he hasn't yet. They're both in the top 3 players in the world.
Dirtball Daquan kawhi won a finals MVP in the post season against that "animal" he doesn't really have to prove anything btw the youngest finials MVP
Gary Ridgeway Go look Are you stupid? Last season he posted up 21ppg on 50%fg while in post season it went up to 22.5 on 50% .
Jordan goat
Heatlifer 305 Lebron also won a finals MVP against kawhi so that is valid
Dirtball Daquan where are you getting these incorrect facts kawhi has never had better numbers in the playoffs
Joy cracks me up 😂 so it was okay when LeBron was "traveling" for your team the Heat right? 😂😂😂😂😂 Shannon is a little extra sometimes but Skip and Joy are butthurt af.
joy is probably ALWAYS Hating cause Bron didn't give her the "D"..😂😂
J M but she's right though
Shanon is more then little extra love...The man is in love with Kiiiiing JAMES
coviron21 true 😂 I wonder if he feels like he should tone it done, it's TOO much
J M she's a racist
I think what people don't talk about Kawhi is his passing ability. I watched that game vs Pelicans the other night and he had a huge impact in OT without scoring but just by his defense and passing. He also made a lot of good decisions during the OT of Wolves-Spurs game the following night.
Pete Sapay 3assists per game, stop it
Yeah I remember that drive and kick up&under pass to Patty Mills in the corner... That was something only LeBron has the strength and skill to do.
Pete Sapay Those are rare instances then. Kawhi's passing is the most criticized part of his game and the weakest. Dude's a beast though.
ItakxMocro 😂
Nobody in Spurs history ever got a lot of assists, because Pop system doesn't require 1 guy to always have the ball.
LBJ Westbrook and Harden have inflated stats, because they always have the ball. They're still amazing players, but I don't think they would put up the same numbers if you put them on the Spurs or Warriors.
1. King James
2. KD
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. James harden
5 Russell Westbrook .
Matthew Chapa kawhi better then KD idky ppl but KD in front of him
Ur stupid af uncle drew isn't even a top 5 point guard in the league
No Anthony Davis ? Jimmy G Buckets
Matthew Chapa honestly I put kd or kawhi out for Anthony Davis cuz
cuz kd prooved it in the playoffs
0:40 Shannon is such a damn fool 😂😂😂 I'm so dead 😂💀
26.1ppg 6.0rpg 3.4apg .48fg% .379 3pt%
25.9ppg 8.1rpg 8.8apg .53fg% .398 3pt%
Which is more dominant?
thank you
The Average LeBron Fan
The one that turns up in clutch time
Zamir #GoPackGo Kawhi is the best defensive player in the game. But on a scale of 1-10 on defense he's a ten and Lebron is about an 8.5-9. I would take Lebron because he's only a little worse than Kawhi on defense and then he does basically everything else better.
When did stats become everything?
HoopLife Productions LeBron is capable of being a better defender than kawhi. But he obviously doesn't exert his energy like that in the regular season. & im someone who thinks kawhi is probably second to LeBron
Leather face Skip Bayless is a such a hater dude.. lol
KentuckyWildcats BBN lol
KentuckyWildcats BBN
He stating facts. Lebum James ain't clutch
JV801097253 there's videos over 20 minutes of footage of him being clutch
QBeezzy11 ya thats because nobody makes videos about players not being clutch. Theyre called "highlights" for a reason bro
Sean Legghette LBJ is the best in the league, but keep in mind Kawhi isnt even in his prime. Also Kawhi being on the Spurs only prevents him from scoring 30 ppg and rebounding as much or more than Lebron, because the spurs team is balanced. Why do you think Kawhi is averaging around 30 ppg when Pau Gasol is on the bench or not playing? Pau on the starting lineup made it a fully offensive starting five where Kawhi got less touches. Also Kawhi doesnt have a Kyrie Irving or Kevin Love or Alley-oop monster (Tristan) or Kyle Korver to pass the ball to and get a bunch of assists from
Skip is too biased to be a sports analyst. he can't admit that LeBron is great
Dean Hindmarsh facts
Dean Hindmarsh facts
Dean Hindmarsh facts...usually but not today. LeBron is still better than Kawhi but they're on the same level and Kawhi now has a real case
I have heard him say Lebron is great on numerous occasions.
He has but you know thats IT tho, and you know he gets on him for everythiiiiing
Shannon put Skip in a body bag!! 😭😭😭
Ive been saying this ALL YEAR! K.Leonard is very underrated
No, he's not underrated anymore, he was last year. Kawhi is not better then KD, so he's certainly is not better then Lebron
Last year he finished second in MVP voting, was a favorite entering this season, and has got plenty of props for improving his offensive game this season. He's no longer underrated.
Billy Jenkins underrated; agreed. however he is not more dominant than LeBron James
this is so disrespectful
labron: "i NEED all the help i can get"...
Kawhi: "we good with what we have. no need to make any moves."
I had no idea coaches shoot the shots?
Lebron James, Kawhi Leonard and Kevin Durant are the top 3 players in the world. Love me or hate em.
Danny King agree and 4. Westbrook 5. Harden
Danny King Agreed.
4. Curry 5 harden
I don't see how anyone can say differently.
Curry?
The number of "SKEEEIPPPPPs" in that 7th minute had me so weak 😂😂
Skip never stops the Lebron hate. He has a chance to watch one of the greatest players of all time and he choses nothing but hate.
We need to see Kawhi vs. Lebron in the finals at least one more time. Those finals were treats.
people are shitting on LeBron for wanting a team, he is no longer in his prime which was from 2007-2013. LeBron will only be the best in the league for 2 or 3 more years he needs to win as many chips as possible before he retires. Kawhi isnt even in his prime yet and plays for the best coach of all time and has a ring he doesn't need to complain
The Flash 2024 true
The Flash 2024 Its wanting a team and its complaing about your team when already have the second most stacked roster in the NBA. I lost a little respect for Bron when he did that this year.
ive been saying Lebron is not in his prime but every finals he gets better its crazy
The Flash 2024
I think LeBron is still in his prime. Physically he may not be the same....but his awareness for the game is un parralled right now.
I think he is also coasting a bit. He doesn't want to use all his energy every night. He knows his objective is to be ready for June.
If his main objective was to be the best 2 way player in the regular season, I guarantee he could be, but he's playing conservative.
Matthew Crawford true. If Lebron wanted too he could of averaged a triple double this season. He's averaging 26/8/9 right now and it's so obvious he isn't playing nearly as hard as he could/should. But if he did I have no doubt in my mind that 26/8/9 would be 29/10/11 or something.
Lebron has been to the finals 6 straight...
StuntinOnEm and only won half
StuntinOnEm in the east. it's a cake walk
Willie James and kawhi has only won one what's your point
Willie James *Triple than Kawhi
. GOL-D-RUIZ. Doesn't matter. He won 3.
lol he doesn't need a kyrie he has a lamarcus aldridge
Look at LA's numbers... He's not even close to an all star anymore.
pINKprotege sacrifices for the system
Big Guwop
You know nothing about basketball
LA sacrificed his superstar ways to coexist with kawhi and win a ring la was giving 50 point buckets in last years playoffs
Lamarcus has been a disappointment for the spurs. His offense is inconsistent and his defense is weak. He needs to step up
Kawhi has the GOAT Coach Gregg Popovich that might have something to do with it "Might"
Skip and Stephen A Smith need to get back together, I can only imagine how this debate would've went lol
Shannon's Skip Impression is hilarious.
Kawhi is better than KD and I was saying that since atleast a year before he signed with GS.
Kawhi is constantly overlooked. He's the best two-way player in the league right now and its not even close. He's a great defender and really, really good offensive player. Would love to see him get a few more rebounds but with Gasol and Aldridge, there isn't a need. If Lebron is 1, then Leonard is 1B.
lol I'm not a Spurs fan but kawhi doesn't play in a pillow soft conference. The road to finals is much tougher in the west.
I love Shannon 😂😂😂 "SKIIIEEEEEEP!"
Lebron is older they are both great
If only people are willing to leave it at that...
pINKprotege exactly smh
Of course it is fine to leave it at that.
But if you HAD to pick 1, it gotta be LeBron though.
debate is fun though, and it's cool to speculate
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i like these guys..they argue so nicely
You Guys are amazing! your show is very entertaining. God Bless your show!!! to Mr. Shannon and Mr. Skip you guys are highly educated as far as what's going on to The Sports World !!!! Hands Down to you both.
Career games with 8+ assists:
LeBron: 485
Kawhi: 0
Chas Dillard lol
No. He doesn't deserve it I pick Harden.
I love skip so much. he's the goat
Kawhi killed Lebron last finals they played against each other...
Munoken 23 no he didn't
Munoken 23 lebron averaged like 30 7. and 8
Kj San who won finals mvp? Kawhi so yes he did.
Nah man that don't matter! GAME 7! GAME 7! GAME 7! I think that's the entire last 5 minutes of this whole argument and completely turned a blind eye to the follow Finals and this past game.
+Zamir #GoPackGo 7 players average more than 10ppg and Kawhi average 17ppg loooll and Kawhi stole the final mvp from Boris Diaw.
"Skip imma have to interrupt you right there, I'm sorry..." "Skip I didn't interrupt you!!!"
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If your team is going into a game 7 in the finals at home or on the road who would you rather have Lebron james or Kawhi leonard?
Lebron, he's simply the best performer in games 7's and hasn't lost a game 7 since 2008. Just look at 2016, 2013 finals.
Army 337 Bron
LeBron easily. he's the King of game 7's. LeBron never loses game 7's
Army 337 Bron...for right now
kawhi come at me now because he's good at everything and defense
"You making an agurment for lebron and bring up traveling" - joy 2017
Last time Kawhi was in the finals he beat Lebron's big 3 by a record setting margin in the finals
My favorite thing of 2017 is Shannon yelling out "SKIP!!" LOL .... SKIIIUPPP
Kawhi Leonard is a boss, and there's no arguing against that. But LeBron is still the greatest player playing right now.
I know that Skip is just playing a character (he's too smart to actually believe the hate he has for Lebron) that is devil's advocate af, but it's sad that his "thought processes" are what/how basketball casuals argue.
>What about the last 5 minutes? >What about the last 30 seconds? >Let me just discard what a great quarter, great game, or great series he had.
After seeing what Kwahi did to my wolves. It's hard to argue against him. He held Andrew Wiggins to 6/24 for 17 points. Before this game, Wiggins was averaging 31 ppg after all star break on 56% shooting. He also just completely took over the game at the end. So poised and couldn't be stopped.
This didn’t age well lmaoooooo
Kawhi is a great player. But Lebron is far superior to kawhi. Even this season Lebron is averaging better numbers
Kawhi is the beast, he's more dominant than Lebron, he's playing with horrible team, Parker should retired last year, Patty is the worst defender in the NBA history, Green don't know how to dribble the ball, Pau in his late prime, LA is shown that he's in his final year in the NBA, come on, Kawhi deserve MVP this year.
+Firas Alomran
LMAO at kawhi playing with a horrible team. Just stop.
"He's been ticking you off for 14 years" 😂😂
Remember people this is the same guy who thought Tim Tebow was the second coming of Christ, said Adrian Peterson is overrated and has said time and Time again that LeBron is Overrated, he's a stat stuffer and he doesn't have a Clutch gene. Do not believe a word this man says
The Flash 2024 while everything u said above is true, Skip actually has a good point here. IMO, LeBron is still better than Kawhi but by a small margin and they're on the same level
+steelersfan101 nah, it's still by a good margin. Kawhi isn't on his level. Kawhi is considered the best TWO way player, LBJ, the best ALL AROUND. Kawhi got show up in the playoffs first, I have a hard time even saying he's better than Durant, let alone the same level as Lebron.
+SteelersFan 101
Kawhi isn't on lebrons level. The cavs are 4-20 without lebron. They're champions and a 55+ win team with him. Do you realize how valuable he is. Lebron is still head and shoulders above the entire league.
The Flash 2024 Tim Tebow deserve another chance in the NFL like he's better than Geno Smith
quan Brooklyn kid he didn't even complete 50% of his passes. The league average is like 65% now. The man can't throw a football but he "deserves" a chance?
in the regular season it can be argued that Kawhi is the best player if you value defense as much as offense, which some fans dont
Harden, Westbrook dont really play defense, even Lebron has coasted on defense since 2014, however in the playoffs Lebron turns it up on the defense
lamarcus Aldridge? ????
Tbh he sucks this season... Even worse than Love was last season.
pINKprotege he juat throwing out names, he would of named Pau lol
Reggie Carr
I'd prefer love let alone kyrie
I'm saying 6-2 without kahwi to skip won't give props to the system either it matters ask deron williams career utah
pINKprotege but you still got to guard him he a former allstar he should have be mentioned
Lebron was 22 (just a baby but actually Skip's way of giving Kawhi an excuse for messing up in 2013 but he'll happily hold it against Lebron) when he took a subpar Cavaliers team to the NBA Finals where he took on a prime Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker. All NBA vets compared to him and almost certainly hall of famers. Sure he got swept but if you look at the scores and watched the games they were very close games and went down to the wire. Oh yea and they had the GOAT coach Gregg Popovich. So no Skip Kawhi is not on the same level as Lebron. Kawhi is dominant defensively but he doesnt scare teams the way Lebron does.
Lebron is the reason his team goes to the finals every year. Hes the most dominant player in the league.
And KD
@@Slurpmunch you cant be serious
Hahaha i haven't seen Shannon this worked up in idk how long! LAHHHHVVVEE IT! ;)
as of now Kawhi Leonard is better than LeBron
no, pull up some stats that say other wise. Kawhi is a better defender and shooter. Thats about it. Lebron is a far superior passer, scorer, rebounder, rim finisher etc......
Daniel no
Curry's Dad Kawhi isn't even a better shooter. Lebron has better fg% and 3pt %.
Daniel
no but in a few years he will be
Team record is a "Team" achievement. We are comparing individuals and you need to reevaluate your understanding of being a better player. Lebron plays in the eastern conference but he's still the best player in the planet, especially after he just won a ring.
U guys need to add a poll for ever video!
kawhi Leonard the quiet killer shut down lebron in 2014 with his super team with Wade and Bosh beat em in 5 and who was finals MVP The Quiet Killer
90's Baby in 2014 Lebron averaged 28/8/6 on 53% from the field and 51% from 3. How's that shut down????
Connor Smith then he lost in game five
Yea because Kawhi was on a better team. Lebron had a injured wade and Bosh who were non existent. Kawhi plays good defense but he certainly doesn't shut down lebron.
Curry's Dad excuses
90's Baby dumbfuck
"Ah..Adam Silver did it"
We often get most accomplished confused with the best player
AT THIS POINT in their careers Kawhi Leonard is better than Lebron James
trevion sewell 🥜🥜🥜 fam lebron was the best player in the league at 22. was in the finals with a horrible team at 22. stop it.
Name his starting 5 in 07...and you tell me if that's a top 5 defense. Y'all don't sound logical
trevion sewell no he not
Yeah Lebron made it to the finals in a horrible eastern conference and didn't come close to going to another one until he went to Miami
Big Steve AB they did have a pretty good defense
"You're making an argument for Lebron and talking about traveling?" - - LMAO!!!! Joy KILLED IT!!!
Lol fast forward a year later...."kawhi is Not a superstar "skip bayless
ovansa otori number 2..
Skip is right.
Kawhi is better than lebron atm. You haven't been watching both teams this year if you disagree.kawhi CARRIES the Spurs, lebron has all the help out there Kyrie, Love, Korver, JR, williams and the cavs STILL ain't better than the Spurs.
Uelese Vavae look at win % with LeBron compared to without. Jr has been out since new years so that's an irrelevant name to add. korver cannot get shots unless there is another player drawing attention, without LeBron the Cavs have no superstar attention drawing players. LeBron turns a non playoff team into a title contender, kawhi will not. it's simple & I think you're very wrong about Leonard being a better player than LeBron James .
Shannon is hilarious! He is the guy at the court that make everybody laugh!
that's all skip does is think of new ways of discrediting James it's old
Check shannon out at the 6:22 mark! Lmbo! The way he says "whoa"! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wait what about those 5 3's Lebron drained on kawhi and the spurs in game 7 of the 2013 NBA Finals??? Oh and Lebron hit the game clinching mid range shot to put them up and iced the game with 2 free throws (shot 8/8 from the FT line btw). But yeah, Lebron still ain't clutch...
Jkell10 LMAO what happened in the 2014 Finals though
COD Killer Chris he averaged 28/8/6 with a fg 53% and 51% from 3.
Jkell10 lol so true
I honestly look forward to more of skip trolling, it makes for great entertainment
Skip Bayless is a clown
Kawhi is the man i hope he takes the Spurs in the Finals.
kawhi> LeBron all day everyday. hAving the clutch gene LeBron (as a former fan) never dreamed of
"clutch gene" you're an idiot.
brian agugoesi when kawhi missed the free throws in the finals...crazy clutch
brian agugoesi I don't take anyone seriously who uses the phrase "clutch gene"
u tell me who is the better free thrower. also tell me who has choked the most in nba finals between the two.
yup no clutch gene he only led both teams in points rebs assists steals and blocks in last years finals also led his team back from 3-1 this isnt even a discussion anymore
I love my Clippers but no way we're making the finals. We're cursed
Kawhi is very good but I'm sorry I don't see how everyone says he's a top3 player if we took him off spurs and put him in the leagues worst team Brooklyn nets I don't think he gets them to the playoffs if you put lebron kd harden Russ or steph on the nets I think they get at least 8 seed kawhi is really good but I just don't see top3 when I look at him he benefits from playing on an all time elite franchise spurs are always top 2 team in west so when a team is winning fans and reporters seem to hype a player up on that team for example when Paul George was taking it to Miami and lebron everyone said he was a top 3 top 5 player now we see he is not last yr with steph everyone was saying he's the best player in the world he is not when derrick rose won MVP everyone was saying he's gonna dethrone the king he couldn't to me in my opinion the top 2 players for about the past 5 or so yrs have been lebron 1 and kd 2
Edgar Pabon stupidest comment Iv ever read
Edgar Pabon nobody could make the nets an 8th seed on their own be real
Derrick Canales lebron and kd can most definitely take nets to 8th seed with j Lin and brook Lopez the other players I named maybe not but I think they have a higher chance than kawhi
Lol kd cup cake could not take them to the finals. With out Russ and harden and as for LeBron he did take them to the finals but was beat by the spurs
Barselini ™ what makes him better than Durant he's a better on ball defender that's it Durant shoots better passes better Durant dribbles better they average same bills and same stls Durant is more efficient Durant draws more fouls than kawhi to put other team in foul trouble kawhi is a very good player but jus because he's the best on ball defender in the league doesn't make him a better player than Durant put some respeck on kd name you don't have to like him but he's #2 and has been for a very long time
These two are hilarious together.
LeBron has a supeteam. The Spurs are no where comprable to Cleveland yet they are 2nd in the West with a better record than Cleveland. Kawahi is better.
Take Kawhi outta Pops system and if he's still great than i might go with you!
StopBeingAKeyBoardKiller&MousePadMobster! KAWHI IS THE system
Dat what system with out him they're one of those teams that's middle of the pack
idk who Kawahi is but LeBron is better than Kawhi for sure
Dat Lebron is better
Kawhi is a great player... He has the scariest potential I ever seen. He gets better ever year..... Lebron is the best, but I think Kawhi has potential to become the best and if he sticks with Pop he will win more rings
Kawhi is in the west man. Lebron doesn't make 6 straight finals in the west, the east literally has no comp loool
Put Lebron in the Clippers, Rockets, Jazz or switch Kawhi with Lebron. Tell me how he wouldn't make it to the finals.
Curry's Dad LeBron can make the Finals depending on the Western team but it wouldn't be 6 years in a row.
nRexxy You're telling that LeBron wouldn't make it to the finals on a western team? HAHAHAHAHA. LeBron would carry the Spurs to at least 4 straight championships.
Put lebron on the lakers and he'll have to face the warriors, spurs, rockets, Jazz, Memphis, thunder or clippers. Lebron won't survive in the west and won't make 6 straight finals.
Sky Seeker LeBron makes his team better we all know that. They won't make the finals every year but they'd make 2-3/6. LeBron on any playoff contender NOW is a different story.
I get what you're saying Skip but please give SOME respect to the greatest small forward of all time
by skips logic, bron was a baby when he got swept by the spurs but he'll quickly use that against him🤔
Most improved player, defensive player of the year and mvp this year for Kawhi
Dont get me wrong Kawhi is an amazing player. Defiantly a top player in the nba but lets not forget who's Kawhi's coach. Gregg Poppovich is one of the greatest coaches ever there record is that great because Popp knows what he's doing. That team could still win without Kawhi although they wouldnt win a title but they'd still have a chance to compete
Kawi is the best right now man he is so all around than any other mvp candidates
A. "This two minute report is correct because it goes against a player/team I dislike."
B. This two minute report is wrong because it goes against a player/team I like."
There's a reason other sports media analysts (including Joy when she worked in Miami) speak out against Skip.....
This gave me a Forest Whitaker eye
Every time I listen to skip I feel as though my brain cells are deteriorating.
The average bandwagon NBA fan finally giving Kawhi the respect he deserves.
Probably how Skips job interview went:
Fox Sports: What ridiculous opinions can you bring to the show?
Skip: Even though LeBron lead both teams in every significant stat, I think Kyrie should've been the Finals MVP
FS1: You're hired
bruh this is more entertaining than first take. i never thought skip could pull it off. first take got better too. win win for viewers and fans.
but LeBron has stepped up his 3pt shoot to 39% this season and the Cavs still are 0-5 without him. Kawhi is amazing but the spurs can still be good without him on some games, that means LeBron is more valuable as a player to the Cavs than kawhi is to the spurs. I have LeBron or Kawhi as mvp
"You are making a statement about lebron but you are talking about traveling"
hahahahahahhha! that was savage
You call Kawhi game winner a travel but ignore PG was hugging his other arm the whole play lol
I love how skip mentions tony Parker and manu as Kawai's help, but just glossed aver lamarcus aldridge and pay gasol
People are afraid of kawhi guarding them. James harden was literally saying give me a screen get him off. that transition from game winner to game winning block shot was MVP caliber.
Skip definitely be Trolling at the highest level😂😂
Skip Bayless-the man who watched every game in the history of the NBA
It's really insane that the sport of basketball has revolved around the name LeBron for 14 years. Dude is 32 and plays on cruise control until the playoffs then puts up insane numbers even in years that he loses lol.
The travel was he switched pivot foots. He picks up dribble. Sets one foot. Then when he turns for the fader he turned on the opposite foot.
Last year Kawhi finished 2nd in MVP ahead of LeBron and KD and he's even better this year.So is he a little overrated or is he just that good?