Why Do We Put Up With This Rubbish?
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The Growing Challenge of Waste Disposal in the UK: A Precursor to Fly-tipping
In the United Kingdom, the escalating difficulty of disposing of waste materials has become a significant concern, with the ominous shadow of fly-tipping looming ever more significant. As the country grapples with stringent regulations, limited access to recycling centres, and escalating disposal costs, responsibly getting rid of waste has become arduous for many citizens.
The UK has seen a substantial increase in waste production over the years, yet the infrastructure for its management has not kept pace. The resulting bottleneck has led to overburdened waste disposal sites and a complex web of bureaucratic procedures that can discourage even the most environmentally conscious individual. For households and businesses alike, the time, cost, and effort required to dispose of waste correctly can be prohibitive, leading some to resort to illegal dumping.
Fly-tipping, the illicit waste disposal on land not licensed for such purposes, has surged. It's a blight that scars urban backalleys and rural landscapes alike. The environmental consequences are profound-contaminated soil, waterways choked with debris and harmed wildlife are just a few of the repercussions. Moreover, it represents a significant economic burden, with local councils spending millions annually to clean up dumped waste, a cost ultimately borne by taxpayers.
The rise in fly-tipping incidents correlates strongly with the tightening of regulations around waste disposal. Permits are now required to dispose of certain types of waste, and many local recycling centres have reduced hours or closed altogether due to budget cuts. Additionally, the increased fees for disposing of bulkier items have left many feeling that fly-tipping is a more accessible albeit illegal alternative.
This challenge is compounded by a lack of awareness. Many are unaware of the proper disposal channels, leading to unintentional non-compliance. Education is a vital component in the fight against waste mismanagement. It’s crucial to inform the public about the correct disposal methods and the long-term detriments of fly-tipping.
The government and local authorities are attempting to combat the issue through various measures. Surveillance has increased, with harsher penalties for those caught fly-tipping. However, without addressing the root cause-accessibility to waste disposal facilities and the complexity of the disposal process-these punitive measures may not be enough to deter the determined or desperate individual.
Community action has increased, with local groups organizing litter-picking events and raising awareness about waste disposal. Such initiatives are commendable and foster a collective responsibility towards our environment. Yet, the systemic issues of waste management infrastructure need national attention.
The UK faces a critical juncture in its waste management policies. The difficulty in disposing of waste materials strains the environment and the public purse and cultivates the illegal and harmful practice of fly-tipping. A coordinated effort that simplifies the disposal process enhances accessibility and prioritizes environmental education is imperative. Only by tackling these core issues can we hope to see a decline in fly-tipping and a move towards a cleaner, greener UK.
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The council make it harder to get rid of your rubbish, hence fly tipping is through the roof (madness)
That’s not an excuse. If your neighbour’s dog craps on your lawn, do you do the same?
Our local council has now removed the cost for "DIY" waste. Time will tell if it reduces fly tipping etc.
@@davidbarnes241 what a stupid thing to say.
@@davidbarnes241It's not an excuse but if you make it more difficult some people will take the cheap/easy option, costs alot more to clear up fly tipping than it does to allow people into the tip!
Our waste guy used to collect fly tipping stuff, £600 for anything.. a mattress, some rubble, any amount on the grab lorry.. he would then come and grab for us getting double bubble as the council are paying for the load.
I honestly just put everything in the black bin , iv broke up a 3 piece sweet before and it all went iñ the bin ,
Just put my old up and over garage door in my bin lol. evolution blades are awsome.
I find a box of matches can be useful too.
Look at the root of the problem
That's the way to do it
Lovely bubbly
Over the last 2 years I've slowly been trying my best to internally insulate my home (built 1860's), thus far I have had to get 3 skips, at first I was taking the rubbish to my local tidy tip, but got banned, yes banned after taking around 6 SUV loads within 3 months. I could only get a 6yd skip as I have no driveway and each time I want a skip the council wants £50 for a permit and the skip hire company wants £50 rental for lights and cones, on top of the cost of the skip.
I have so far done 3 rooms and had to have about 1/3 of my roof replaced and it has cost me around £1100 to remove the rubbish. I understand the need to regulate skips on public roads but why do they have to profiteer from it, £50 for a permit is a scam, or rather a tax. I'm trying to insulate my home to "save the environment" and I'm getting penalized by the very people dictating that we must go green.
You’re right the skip permit and lights charge is an absolute scam. Near me the council put in traffic calming chicanes- no lights on the bollards, just reflectors. If it was a skip in the same place it would require lights and a permit. The funny thing is, every few months an unsuspecting motorist runs into it and smashes the bollards (and their vehicle).
Glasgow City Council brought in a £35 per item charge on bulk uplift a couple of years ago, and are currently paying for a social media campaign in which they chastise us for not using the grey (food) and purple (glass) recycling bins that they removed from the tenement backcourts around the same time. Meanwhile, the massive increase in fly tipping is blamed on "school children" and other "bad actors", as if this wasn't a totally predictable outcome that numerous people must surely have advised them would result from their shortsighted cost-cutting.
SNP haha say no more what a joke they are Gangsters
Yep SNP for ya! That's what you scots wanted corrupt dodgy incompetent SNP, they will run Scotland into the ground
@@Newit2 No particular love for the SNP, but surely the takeaway from the video (and 99% of the comments) is that this is going on everywhere.
35 quid per item.. FFS. Dundee city council are ."Up to 6 items cost £29.00 and more than 6 and up to 12 items cost £50.00. Any items with greater value will require an inspection.". I think that was pretty good.
@@Newit2 SNP Run Dundee and you'll see my comment, charges are pretty reasonable... I mean that's the only positive, they are scum bags.
Spot on, they have become a complete nightmare and they are getting worse.
This makes my local tip look like heaven. Still can't use a van but the folks are helpful. No extra charges. As long as the main things are separated out - wood, hardcore, metal, plastics, bulky you can basically tip as much as you can fit in the car. Just drive up.
Sometimes they'll close for 20 minutes to crush some of the stuff in the skips down but I can live with that.
The more barriers you put up to getting rid of waste the more things like fly tipping will happen.
Sad thing is recycling centres make money from what people bring in. It's not a service to us it's a gift for them 😅
There was a point a few years ago where it cost more to dispose of a bag of sand than it did to buy it new.
This is either corruption, incompetence or ideology taking over a council which are expected to provide services on our behalf.
That is insane. We had sand falling out of the sky last year. Apparently is was blown in on the jet stream from the Sahara. You couldn't build with it because it was full of camel dung.
That goes for plasterboard at our tip, costs £30 a sheet to tip it, £18 a sheet to buy, they class it as hazardous waste, we just break it up and put it black bags.
@@GrahamWalters hazardous? plasterboard is basically chalk and paper...
I have heard (and I don't know how true it is) that the reason tips don't want plasterboard is because it is heavily alkaline. This interferes with the rotting process of rubbish which produces methane gas.
The methane is extracted from landfill and used as a fuel.
@@SkillBuilder I'd have thought camel dung would be an excellent plasticizer and adhesive : D
Rodger having a rant...never. People have always sorted rubbish out some even make a living from it. Our council sends our rubbish to be burnt at one of the many incinerators. Everyone is trying to screw you over one way or another.
I am so pleased you have raised this issue. There has to be a better way to discard all kinds of rubbish. Builders skips full of recylable materials going to the tip, household waste not being properly dealt with. The country/world is turning into rubbish dump.
I always go to the tip at lunchtime - fewer staff around to look at what you're dumping.
My mate had an altercation at the tip trying to dispose of a hamster cage because it was metal and plastic. An operative from the rubbish gestapo got very animated and started shouting at him. My friend is 6' 5", 20 stone, and looks like he just walked off the set of GoT. His response was "Calm down skip monkey or you and me are gonna fall out". He no longer has the cage and the guy at the tip kept his teeth in his mouth 😂
This is one thing that amazes me about living in the states. For 24 dollars a month, I can throw away virtually unlimited anything. I think this is the last truly good service anyone gets here. I've had the bins full of construction and demolition debris. I can count on my one hand the number of times they refused it. And when it has happened, all I had to do was dilute the waste with other more normal trash and they took it next time. Not enough room on the bin? Lay it on top. They usually take it. Whole rugs? Yup. Got a front yard full of rubbish? Give them a call. Be nice, and a truck will come round and take it all. Amazing value
I assume you live in a nice state then as I know different states have different rules like in the UK.
I was walking by a rubbish tip once and I had a supermarket bag in my hand with rubbish in it and I thought well seeing that I am passing by at that very moment I thought I might as well chuck it away at this tip that I am passing. Well I walked in, got to the area to chuck it and then I was approached by a member of staff asking me had I walked in and I said yes and they said your not allowed to do that at this tip you have to drive in. So I chucked it away, said that their rule was crazy and walked straight back out.
He'll track you down using your registration number.......😂
I am pretty sure the Police would like us all to have QR codes tattoo'd on our foreheads.. Just a matter of time..
Pedestrians and cyclists aren’t allowed at my local tip either ( despite the fact that drivers automatically become pedestrians the second they step out of their vehicle). They are second class citizens who are allowed into a fenced off area where only a few items can be recycled and have to wait for a member of staff to come and retrieve anything else they may have. They should get a rebate on their council tax in my opinion.
Not been to the tip for a couple of years now.
All the waste gets gradually broken up to top up the household bin collection each fortnight.
I took an old car battery to the tip in my van- they refused me entry even though that’s all I had to dispose of. I dumped it by their gates on the way out, I was that angry. Bloody jobsworths in those places, it’s pathetic.
Scrap it yourself their worth about £10
Take to ascrapyard they pay you
Couldn't agree with you more. It's not only fly tippers that are a disgrace, what about the ones who just throw rubbish out of vehicles. They've turned this "green and pleasant land" into an eyesore. It's such a shame, especially as every house has a waste bin that you pay for anyway. I have a van and work in the motor trade, and our council supplies me with 12 free tickets every year to dump waste, provided it's not in my trade, but I wouldn't mind a small charge if they allowed me to get rid of everything. Think how much money the decent taxpayer has to pay to clean up lanes and industrial estates when we are also paying work dodgers to sit on their arse, drink beer, smoke flags, and shag all day, get them out there to earn their dole money!!!
You're lucky, vans are banned here now, altogether.
Once I was on a bus and shook my head at this guy who threw a burger bag out the window to be fair to him he got out the car and picked the rubbish back up and we both smiled gave the thumbs up lol
Seems benefit britain is encouraging millions of illegal migrants to simply hop over and get set up house car even (security) work lol or sit back and enjoy sky tv we're done my mate ..don't worry about rubbish we are the trash..
This topic really boils my piss, I had a row with my local council a few years ago, renovating a house we had a skip on the drive and they had no rubbish/recycling from the house for about 2 months, when I fitted the kitchen I left all the cardboard by the kerbside, I watched as they drove by and ignored it I chased them down the road to ask why he said 'it's your builders rubbish' I told him it was better to recycle it than chuck it in the skip which is landfill, he wouldn't have it so I got straight on the phone to the council and told them the same thing, an hour later they came back and took it! I stood and watched 😁. Another time at the tip I have lots of cardboard from my house that I took in my car, asked where the cardboard bins were he pointed me in the direction of it, it was full I went back and said its full up, he said 'just chuck it in general waste' I refused and left it down the side of the full bin. my argument is we have to recycle but the council only do it on their terms, next time your at the tip look at what goes into general waste, everything all for landfill.
Plain brown cardboard you can compost at home.
Not if you live in a flat@@SierraNovemberKilo
I know someone who works at a tip and i was shocked how cheaply they're willing to sort out a "one off informal trade waste permit😉" if you turn up with cash. Sounds like they'll take as little as £20 for a full van load at their one
Cheers Roger, this made me feel better, you're nearly as grumpy as me !
It's all bonkers and clearly doesn't work, we've been clearing my parents house as they've gone into care and because my brother has a pick-up ( the obvious vehicle to use) we have to be careful not to be treated as trade ! And yes in Essex we have to book our visits to the nearest 15 minute slot !
I heard of one council who, every month put a skip on a village green and anyone could put their waste in it. It would be replaced a few weeks later, so if it was full, there was no need to dump, you knew there would be a fresh ski in a couple of weeks. Far more enlightened
Yes occasionally we had the same, however it will be the local community council groups who organised this. Rural areas this will happen, but most urban areas are more conniving and money grabbing and big contractors running the recycling centres will try to make money for nothing. Where there's muck there's brass as the saying goes.
@@michaelbradley-yorath9682 I was crediting the council!
Same thing used to happen at the condo where I lived in Singapore.
Was very handy when the massive skip appeared a few weeks before I relocated back to the UK.
My local council used to do similar many years ago, I'm guessing it must be around 30 years ago, it was very popular with the skips being at various locations around the town and changed on a regular basis, while smaller nearby villages took turns on a rotational basis to have a skip somewhere convenient.
We had that, often at the favourite fly tip sites. So the council packed it in!! You know happened....
Our Council now charges an extra £70 a year if you want your garden waste collected.
I already pay for my refuse collections with my council tax.
I also have to register my van to be able to use the council recycling centre & can only do 12 visits a year,
I dumped my Christmas tree last year & the jobsworth used one of my 12 permits for it, I was like mate it's obviously from my house & not commercial waste & he just shrugged & walked off.
Or at your own risk, you can organise a massive bonfire for yourself. Make sure your rubbish pile is bone dry at the start of summer when everything is still green.
Your start time should be the middle hours of a weekday when most people are at work.
It'll burn hot which means minimum smoke and be all gone in 20 minutes before the fire service turns up.
You may set fire to your (green) hedgerow, melt a drain pipe and peel the paint off your garage door but you will have saved yourself a ton of money.
Yep. 100% agree. The tip closest to me (at Lowestoft) introduced a temporary online booking system during Covid. But now it's been made permanent, due to it's "success"!
By "success" the council seems to mean it has made life for their people easier, so now there is a smaller queue, which means there's more time to check members of the public aren't "bending the rules". There's no regrading for the convenience of their customers who, of course, are paying for all this bureaucratic nonsense.
Raise vat to 20.00005 percent and use the extra income to allow free disposal of everything, unlimited quantities and extra staff and equipment to sort and recycle all the waste. It will add to cost of everything but in 20 years times the disposal costs are covered. There would be no need to ever fly tip because it is easier to dispose of it properly. Think deposits on bottles. You get your money back when you return the bottle. You get your money back in the form of free disposal
In 2022 I managed to get a Bungalow through my local council for my elderly disabled Mum.
I renovated the bathroom and removed all the tiles and decorated so I had waste tiles from the walls heaped up in the garden.
There was literally 4 tonnes of rubble cleared from the garde and piled up too, then there was the 17+ trees that had to be cut down in the front and rear gardens as they were allowed to get too big, cut out daylight and also were leaning over the bungalow and not in great health risking them coming down on to the bungalow.
When I contacted the local council to put on skips so I could clear all the waste from what is basically their property having done all the work they should have I was told I would have to pay for skips myself or take it to the tip so I bought a trailer for a few hundred pounds with the thinking that I could sell it afterwards and make the money back (which I eventually did) when I went to take it to the tip I was refused entry as it was a caged trailer, apparently I am not allowed entrance with a trailer over a certain size, with greedy boards or caged, so I wrote to my local council who said I had to speak to the county council, I then contacted the county council who told me to write to my councillor which I did, it took 3 weeks for him to get back to me saying he would look in to it and get back to me and I never heard anything again.
I ended up transporting all the wood usable for firewood to my own house, burned the rest in my Mum's garden which literally saw the flames reach almost 20 feet and it took roughly 4 hours to burn through all the brash, and the rubble I managed to get rid of in a way as to not cause issues for anyone but not at the tip as they wouldn't let me take 4 tonnes in and I was only allowed 2 small sacks per car per day although luckily not charged bearing in mind this was all basically from a council property and should have been dealt with by the council when the property was empty.
Years ago it was a case that as long as my vehicle was not sign written I could drive my van in and get rid of what I wanted, I dumped tonnes of rubble there in wheelie bins straight out the back of a transit and nothing was said but these days it's easier to bury or burn most things on my property and dump excess soil on the edge of the farmers field next to me and rake it level than it is to use the council tip.
It has become a joke to get rid of rubbish, I literally strip sofas now and separate everything from them as I know they will end up in land fill so I burn the wood in my fire, the material goes in the bin and any cardboard in the recycling. Metal gets saved to one side so it goes to the scrap yard and we get paid for it once we have enough to warrant a trip, which with vehicle maintenance can be pretty often.
Considering rubble is crushed and sold to people for pathways and driveways, wood is sold and burned in incinerators to create power and green waste is composted and sold it is not exactly costing them to get rid of these items, even waste car oil is sold for burning in industrial waste oil burners to heat factories and work spaces yet they limit me to 5 litres of waste oil even though a oil service on my car is over 6 litres meaning it tends to mount up at home risking a toxic spill.
I am fed up with paying council tax for services to be withheld or limited even though there is the means for them to make money from what is dropped at the tip.
Same in northern ireland now, you need to book in an appointment to go to recycling centre, and can only go to your constituency, even if others are closer. I use to recycle everything for decades, didn't mind driving as it was on the way to work. Now the only one I'm allowed to use is 25 minutes drive in a middle of nowhere where they ask you for 100 different details of you when you book online including your pant size.
I just decided to f*ck it into the mixed bin now, the council clearly doesn't want to make recycling simple and easy, why would I drive 50 minutes, use up petrol to recycle a few nick-nacks. If they don't give a sh*t, why would I.
Just imagining Roger turning up to the tip like Michael Douglas in Falling Down 😂
I am glad you got the reference.
@@SkillBuilder "I'm just trying to get home" becomes "I'm just trying to drop off a sofa" 😅 hopefully it doesn't end the same though 😬
It is a rediculous situation and another thing thats like, we're paying all this tax but still we can't have a decent service.
I always found the workers at my local tip to be very helpful and accomodating, but one thing that did bother/horrify me was they they had a huge 20' x 10' x 8' container sized skip which you put your old electrical stuff (not Tvs/fridges etc though) and they said you couldn't take anything out as it would leave the Council liable for electrical fires etc if you tried to re-use faulty things. This was heartbreaking as I could see a lot of vintage electrical stuff, some of which I knew was quite rare, and it was all going to scrap when it should have been saved really. Very sad.
Admit it. You're just a totter
I’ve never paid that license to carry waste, F that!
last year it cost me £80 to get rid of a boot full of wooden fence and 2 radiators
after booking my place 2 weeks previously
and driving over the weighbridge
so now i fill a bag full of crap and leave it in the bin ever two weeks
weighbridge? at the tip ?
Now theres a good idea actually! Keep track of number plates and charge all those dipshits who buy new stuff at ikea every weekend every saturday and tip the stuff it replaces every sunday , and stop banning me who comes once a year with what they think is trade waste.
Totally agree, the councils have made it harder to get rid of rubbish since lockdown. I used to be anal about separating rubbish, now everything gets broken up and put in the house bin.
It all goes to Landfill, or is shipped off to some 3rd world shithole. So why bother recycling it?
Our tip still has social distancing!
@@GrahamWalters 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦♂
I don't understand.
I thought you were supposed to take it to the council offices and set fire to it?
Who knew.
Know of 2 councils personally that have started charging the public for hardcore disposal . So what’s happening, well it’s not surprising to hear that people are now putting it in their wheelie bins
💯% agree Roger . it's bloody ridiculous .
If you turn up with a van load of copper tanks and pipes (hypothetically) i doubt they would turn you and your "trade waste" away....
Like he said removing a sink with taps they will snatch your hand off its free But the unit that it sat in you can't dump that it's trade When it suits them they will have it Its all private now councils stole our public tips and sold it Like anything that's publicly owned they steal
That goes into the "staff tips" skip for special disposal.
I've got a van. Not for trade. It's 2.6m high so I'm not allowed to the council tips. Called up a number of council departments but got nowhere.
A lot of the segregated items at recycles centres actually eventually end up in a incinerator plant.
I once was sitting in a long queue to the tip, with my wife and 2 young kids in the car. After a long wait, I noticed there was somewhere I could park and walk instead. So I took my two bags of garden waste in hand into the complex. I was stopped by a younger worker there who refused to let me drop my bags into the garden waste because I had 'cut the queue'? I guess you can't go to the dump if you don't have a vehicle. Fortunately for him, I'm more polite than he, and I trundled away with my bags in hands looking a fool and drove back home. 😢
Roger, great video. This topic also makes my blood boil. The local governments need to sort this out. I consider myself lucky to have a barn where I can store household and trade waste for months until the time comes to pay £280 for a skip and get rid of the lot. I would much rather pay to get rid of it as I go and not have to hold so much rubbish
Our local tip used to charge £7 per 25l bag of rubble. Absolute robbing bastards as they just crash it and sell it back to the companies / public as MOT type3 or whatnot.
Luckily now the new policy is in place (since Dec 2023) which allows 4 x 25l bags for free per visit (max 4 visits per month) and quantities above that would be £2 per bag which isn't terrible.
Same with my tip £7.00 for a bag of rubble if you take it in a car
Blimey, thats really good. Can't put any rubble in at our tip at all. I normally find someones skip who is doing some modifications to their house and then offer them 10 or 20 quid to put some rubble sacks in the skip. Not had anyone say no, except for a couple who said that their skip would be totally full with their own rubbish. So just find someone elses skip and ask the question. I DON'T dump the stuff in someones skip in the middle of the night.
Funniest thing was my getting a skip and putting a load of old stone backings in it and some other stone rubble (we live in a conservation area of old Victorian stone built buildings) and I had two people knock on the door to ask if they could take some of the stone out of the skip. "Yes no problem". Next morning the skip was empty. I pay good money for black faced stone, over £100 a yard now, but rubble is rubble and this stuff was rubble.
The big joke is even the plasterboard is buried in the ground... But they're still insistent charging for it...
It goes into special ground that has had holy water sprinkled on it
Plasterboard dissolves if submerged, not good if you drive over the void.
@@johnclements6614Oh is that the cause of all the potholes?😉
@@normanboyes4983 That is nothing to do with gypsum, it is not used in blacktop. A small amount of cement is sometimes used in blacktop as a filler but that is a different animal.
Central government funding of councils has been cut massively in recent years.
@@johnclements6614 I was being ironic.
If the councils allowed people to get rid of and recycle rubbish fly tipping would stop almost overnight. Why would someone pay £ 250 to get rid of some rubbish when they can do it for free in the dark of winter with virtually zero chance of getting caught. If the council even charged a tenner per load I suspect most people would pay up.
Great rant, totally agree with all you've said! In kent fly tipping is a daily occurrence, the more rural you are the worse it gets.
Absolutely bang on Rodger. The problem with rubbish is the rubbish rules. There’s so many potholes there is plenty of space for rubble disposal as our highways turn into bumpy dirt tracks.
We pay high council tax rates ( currently paying £2,500+ pa) and end up separating waste & recycling for them to mostly chuck-into landfill. Down at the local tip you need to book a slot and list the items you will be bringing. They have menu-charges and employees who operate the "yard" generally from a shed and/or chair and point sticks to direct where you dispose the items. All quite stressful and can be very expensive! This is primarily why we have a high incidence of fly-tipping.
As I recall London Borough of Hillingdon charged their council tax payers in excess of £200,000 to remove the "mountain" of waste that fly-tippers left beneath the elevated A40 immediately to the west of the Uxbridge Roundabout junction. Maybe, local authorities should remove, or at least dramatically reduce charges, for recyling to dissuade some of these fly-tippers!
Once upon a time there were centres run by the council to take rubbish. It was free. Then when privatised they introduced limits and then fees for waste. Now its by appointment only. Turn up without and your turned away. Its criminal to dump rubbish but criminal to exploit the situation.
I didn’t know that you just can’t use any old local authority tip now. Was visiting mom and dad, in my hometown (Stourbridge) once, and needed to visit the tip. My childhood home was a few yards away from the local tip, so I thought I’d nip in there on my way to my parents. I didn’t know that they have numberplate recognition, which picks up that you don’t live in that LA area, and a bloke with a clip board came up and tried to read me the riot act. I said (in my best Black Country accent) that I was born around here, and lived up the road for most of my childhood, and I wasn’t aware that I needed permission now to go to the tip. Anyway, he ticked me off, but let me dump the rubbish anyway………proper bunch of jobs worth’s……..on the other hand, the soil conditioner they sell in Worcestershire tips is excellent - only £5 a bag, and good for laying on your veg beds after a growing season.
Booking a slot at the local tip is brilliant - there used to be mile long queues. Now you get a 15 minute window - no queues and in and out in a heartbeat.
on more than a few occasions iv picked up rubbish someone just threw out of the car window, iv had various reactions, embarrassed ignoring me and driving off, two guys whole outedly laughing at me because i was picking it up whilst reprimanding them, and one guy got so mad i thought he was going to attack me...we live in a ever increasing self centred me me me world, and ill be glad when im gone.
Madness! I used to love scrounging on tips years ago, then they started charging, then the shit gets tipped everywhere, total crap! Love your rant! It is just common sense, a lot of people used to scrap around on tips, they found things they could use, then the councils started charging, no wonder people started dumping their junk by fly tipping/
every bicycle I ever owned came from parts scrounged from the tip, great times I had there !
Trying to get rid of part tins of paint is just ridiculous..
There are websites to give away half used tins of paint. For small amounts or old paint, paint it it on card board and then put it in the landfill bin when dry.
I live in South Cheshire and every point you have made is happening here. I can say that all this fly tipping started to grow when Local Councils started to charge and make things more difficult for householder's to remove larger rubbish from their homes. Now the reasons why!!! The drastic lowering of government to Council funding. The privatisation of council Tips. Council's spending more and more money on flagship projects and not using the council tax charged for the essentials people are paying the money for.
Yep 100%. Try this, in Loughborough we have to pay to dump glass, ceramic, hardcore and soil driven to the tip in a car - that's for everone, not just trade. If you drive to Leicester, 14 miles down the road, it's all free. So guess what I do!
I notice a lot of people now burning the rubbish at the end of the garden while the building project is going on.
Back in 2000 I worked on the local council street sweeping, we used to drop our waste at a place in Eastbourne. One time there’s this old guy must’ve been in his eighties, pushing a wheel barrow in. Obviously been weeding his garden, from where we were waiting to start shovelling the load of our transit ( no tippers on our council 😖) we could see him struggling to push it home. By the time we finished and qued again to weigh off, the old man’s back again with a half barrow load and the site manager hollers across the yard “STOP HIM, he’s been in once already today!!”
I mean really,,,, he’s in his eighties with half a barrow of weeds, and he’s not allowed in.
At the other end of the spectrum, someone dumped a caravan full of rubbish in a layby and sets light to it. Fire brigade gets called to put it out, there they are getting a hose to it and BOOM there’s a gas bottle in it. Put one of the firemen in hospital. The explosion blows the rubbish everywhere, in amongst it is junk mail and personal mail from one person, a known fly tipper. So police prosecute, it goes to court and the guy gets a few hours community service.
No deterrent. The system hasn’t worked for decades.
I have already stated that I am happy to pay to dump small amounts of rubbish. They can make money out of lots of traders who would pay twenty quid to dump stuff
I had this problem and was banned as I folded an unnecessary bill he gave me , I put it in his chest pocket. I'm tapping it in saying to him 'and that's why you're a rubbish worker'. After accusing me being a builder on a Sunday clearing my own house hold waste.
In Northern Ireland there is only one company with a licence to recycle plasterboard. As a result if you need to get rid of waste plasterboard you have to hire one of their skips - a complete monopoly. Councils won't touch it.
So what happens as a result - every site gets a hole dug and once the plasterers are finished it all gets buried and lots of hydrogen sulphide gets released into the atmosphere.
I just hire the east Europeans, they get a cheap 7 seater car, remove rear seats, then just make endless trips to the tip 🙄🙄 Charge us reasonable rates too whether its domestic or trade. I'd be happy to go down myself in my neighbours van but again, like you said, not allowed!
I remember way back when your bin man would go down your drive, through your gate pick up your bin ( no wheels ) walk it's all the way to the road , bring it back and even hose it off if they got it dirty .
Now you take your bin to the road and they refuse to take it because there is a paper chocolate wrapper mixed with the plastic waste and it's 3 inches too far away from the road.
At the tip it's x10
just visited perth australia. during our stay i noticed a sign put up saying collection in your neighbourhood next week. that week a saw piles of general trash metal, wood, plastic, sofas etc appearing outside every house. pretty much anything you wanted rid of. the following week a team from the local council arrived with 2 bobcats and a massive tipper truck, 3 hours later all gone. brilliant
Roger you're a logical man and do a job that requires logic. People who aren't logical work for the council, where they do things that feel right, or are down right against what the locals want.
Seeing that, I'm thankful for our tip. We have to book since COVID but they have never turned me away. Plenty of stuff from my house including car loads of soil, offcuts of slabs from a patio, a whole bathroom including tiles, plasterboard etc etc. Whenever I have work done I always tell them that I'll take the stuff to the tip myself if it saves them getting a skip etc.
Hi Roger, very sympathetic to your rant. Iv been a waste expert for 35 years.... regrettably the trade waste issue has been around for many years. The main area that has changed is the money allocated to each County Council. The councils have removed money from waste, highways and street services to pay thier budget shortfalls e;sewhere- just about every council is doing this - except the councils that are responsible and manage thier budgets properly. They are all waiting for a Labour govenment to fill up thier budgets again. You are not alone - my advice have go at your local councillor.
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The budget elsewhere is their pensions.
What irritates me, in Hertfordshire, I have to prove that I live in the county to use the local household waste site. Why? The stuff was in a Hertfordshire home, but I live in Greater London.
Peter Finch, Network, I got that one.Brilliant movie. On the good hardcore waste, Councils should set up free dumping area's where people can dump it but also take it for their own garden or self build projects to cut down on unecessary fuel waste and polution.
Roger,
Well done yet again! You can rant with the best of them! Thank you.
The answer is surely do not vote for the UniParty. Let Westminster listen to us for a change!
Let’s stop worshipping the Tin
Gods in County and Town Halls!
We need to emulate the French!!
Best wishes
At my local council tip they let vans in no problem , they don't charge you they just want to see your DL to check you are local, they see it as they might as well let the vans in to dump waste as it cuts down on the fly tipping. . And I see no fly tipping where I live because of this. The tip is run by the local council and not private like most in england.
My local tip now requires you to show proof of address to stop those from outside the area using the tip!
Yes have down load the bar code to your phone,illegal immigrants don't get treated this way,all for a bit of rubbish 🤦♂️
Council tips can't charge for disposal of DIY rubble since the start of this year. The government ruled they have to scrap charges for all DIY waste. There is an article on the BBC news site from 21 June 2023 titled: _"Warning DIY waste charges ban could push up council tax"_ detailing this.
The appointments can be annoying as often cannot do it for the same day but have Been a game changer in our town, I remember queuing up for half an hour with cars queuing on the road blocking the roundabouts.... and now just now wait at all, straight in
In our area a lot of site waste gets burnt. I used to get pallets for a wood burner but that's been legislated away. Mad
My van permit for the tip expired, so I parked up outside and walked in with the renewal paperwork, I was told I couldn't walk on the access road. I said I'm here now (at their site office). The jobsworth insisted I go back out and drive the van in. You can't do right for doing wrong. Just to be clear, they didn't want to inspect the van or look at it.
Thanks Roger. I'd like to highlight cement and mortar water, or anything in a bucket. Our guys washed out their buckets on the road and pavement outside our house, near the rainwater drain. The council had just re done the road and pavement, it was looking beautiful, and that is soo rare! I had to get out there with broom and a hose to clear it up. They asked where they should dispose of it, I said on my broken up tarmac driveway is okay, but honestly I don't know, what's the best way to not pollute?
Our local tip in the South east, has a weigh bridge and if you bringing trade waste, they direct you to the weigh bridge and you get charged for disposal of it. If you have a car, they ask for ID to prove your address and give you a sticker to put on your windscreen which somehow proves the rubbish in the boot is household and not trade 😂. They won't allow you to enter with any plasterboard or asbestos obv... There is also a scrap yard near me that pay you for bringing them scrap metal, batteries, old appliances with transformers etc. I get a lot of electrical waste for my work, so I pre-sort my rubbish at home and sometimes get a bit of scrap money for taking it to scrap man. Most plastic stuff i break up and put in the waste bin, glass gets smashed into the recycling bin along with the cardboard packaging. Most of the fly tipping we get in the back lanes usually contains asbestos and plasterboard! Who would have thought!
If you're talking about Redhill tip Roger, I feel your pain. I've never known such an awkward bunch of knobs in all my life!
But yes as a builder and a homeowner, I can tell you it's getting harder and harder to get rid of rubbish through the legal channels. The number of times I've had penalty charges for rubbish being bagged and placed on the pavement whilst waiting for a wait and load is ridiculous. Contact the council about the asbestos that has been dumped on my street or the w@nkers who have dumped their rubbish in my skip and they aren't interested.
People who dump in other people's skips have a special place in hell.
Closely followed by the wombles who empty half your skip to get a tiny bit of metal and leave your front lawn looking like a 3rd world landfill...l@@stevem815
It's absolute madness. I have been doing a moderately involved renovation to my house (that I am living in now thanks!) and getting rid of waste has been a ball ache. Plasterboard £7 a rubble sack at my tip, fair to say I cut it into cubes and packed them tight but still cost a wedge. Second trip I paid cash... amazing what difference that makes to the price 🙄 no wonder I snuck a load of it in the wheelie bin as well. I got charged rubble prices for a toilet. Rubble collection from a licensed waste bloke I'm 500 quid deep so far and probably about the same to go for mostly lime plaster and that's cheaper than a skip and street permit. It's robbery! I could buy and insure a knackered tipper truck and dump it in a layby for the same cost but fly tipping is scummy af. Not to mention I've been using a tip in a different county to my house because my council need a (free) permit for a trailer as a diyer but the towing vehicle must be registered to your property which I borrow the vehicle and trailer from my old man. Furious. Oh and like you say the people who work at my tip are on a power trip only a club bouncer could rival.
Cost of disposal should be part of the purchase price of a product, so consumers understand and pay the full lifecycle cost of products, not just their manufacturing cost. This could be introduced as a tax like vat.
i feel your pain Roger, as a tradesman like yourself i have exactly the same issues.
On a visit to the local dump i had a patio slab which had a hair line crack on it, when i put it in my car it broke into 5 pieces when i got to the dump they wanted to charge me £7 per piece, if it was in a rubble sack it would of been £7 for the lot! crazy world we now live in.
My daughter moved house with a hire van, she went to the tip with some rubbish and they would not let her dump it as she was in the van, so she drove outside and walked in with it and was told to leave as you are not allowed to walk in thery told her to bring it back in a car which she told them she does not own one so she had to pay a chap to take it to the dump
There's a suggestion from Somerset County Council that they're going to close as many as FIVE recycling centres, just to save their own hinds from sinking financially... You can imagine the predicament this could easily create!
All while potentially increasing council tax and while making further cuts to their services.
And then us public have to put up with fly tipping blocking roads, the council have to send a team out to clear it up. They put up our council tax.
It’s madness you couldn’t make it up.
What gets my goat is people suggesting that we should pay. We already do pay it’s called council tax. Stop trying to charge us and the make up some thing or other and charge us again. Enough!
Our council won’t take ceramic basins ect or rubble from ordinary members of the public, we can tip plasterboard but we have to make an appointment online. The waste disposal sites and regulations are totally illogical.
It’s so difficult certain types of people will just fly tip for the easy way out.
i wrote to my mp suggesting each van size has a cost to dump, which means i could turn up separate the rubbish into individual bins, saves time and avoids the crooks dumping, but not a single reply!
I lost three job because of rubbish this yeat. It was a shame as I'm a gardener I tend work 10 months of year however if got those nursing home and hotel my business would has been operational all year. Which means I could have employed a couple of people. To get rid of waste I would have had to drive 2 hours round trip 4 or 5 times. Yes I could buy 10 or 20 grand tipper pay another 3 or 2 grand insurance on top of it. For my self it just feel like government just doesn't want you to work or run a business. They just want you work for big company on minimum wage.
I genuinely think if you could just pay at nearest trip I think you would seem improvement of local area.
That's why many communities like mine, over in Germany, dropped the charges for disposal of private items. They estimate, that collecting the rubbish from elsewhere would be more expensive than the hit from fees not claimed. For people not having the means to transport, there is a possibility to request a community collection date - (usually you are requested to enumerate the items you are going to dump, so they can plan ahead for the capacity, and know in advance, if there are items, that require special treatment, like paints, oils, appliances). At a date they see fit and announce beforehand, they send than a crew around with a dumpster and a van collecting both, the big items and the special items. Only on this day, you are allowed to deposit your waste at the front porch. In some of the more anarchic quarters, they even started to disallow this, and ask the people to wait for the ringing at the door, in order to collect it - which serves two purposes: it foils commercial waste scavengers, that tear the piles apart when searching for truffles, and allows some sort of community scavenging: As an example, Hamburg picks usable furniture and appliances out, and forwards them into a social market, where it may be picked by well-fare entitled people with low income. This indeed recovers some of the expenses for Hamburg, that else would have needed to buy the new.
Unfortunately, this helps only so far - because people are selfish idiots, and can't be bothered to find out the location of the community dump, or don't want to make the distance, or can't read the announcements in their mail and the newspapers, whatever. So for that, there is a usually a city-line (phone, eMail, www) that takes hints on rogue waste piles, and a couple of 'waste detectives'. Those inspect the waste and look for evidence of the origin - best case: forgotten letter heads! If found out, the perpetrators are lectured about the possibilities, charged for the individual collection, and fined.
I still cant quite understand what council tax is for.
Very few things it seems.
Most council tax is spent on people who have never paid tax!
@@markrainford1219 collecting their bins twice a month?
Housing the feckers! @@Michael-fg8cd
Good work Roger, controlling every aspect of humanity, it's creeping Totalitarianism
one of my dad's neighbours does building type work, and he keeps an old Volvo estate parked outside of his house just for that purpose.
You are absolutely right.
I had the same problem when i renovated my bathroom
We are relaying on people who wouldn't survive selling wegetable on local market
They trying to organise ours lives spending taxpayers money and make ours live more difficult
£160 a tonne at Park Royal for commercial waste. £15 per mattress! No wonder fly tippers are thriving!
It is ridiculous that the councils are so inflexible. I wanted to dump my old carpets when we replaced the flooring throughout the house. I have a small VW campervan which would take all the waste in one trip, however I was told I could not use my 'van' without a permit. They did state I could go as many times as I wanted in a car, so the I was forced to make three trips instead of one. So much for wanting to be green and recycle waste at my local tip!
Our council charges £4 per bag of plasterboard and £2 per bag of rubble, they also started opening black bags to check what's inside
Tell me about it,councils make a rod for their own back,they don't let vans on so what do they do yes you guessed it😊
My local tip needs me to book a slot. My car is classed as a commercial vehicle apparently too. So there is limited slots. Some times it was months of wait.
I should change my car to a nice long estate, larger and can take more and can use the normal appointments.
But then changing cars just based off of your local tip policy is just why should that ever be a thought I have to think.
I'm in Scotland and specifically Dundee .. we have a bulk waste pick up service .. they charge you, but to get rid of a whole bathroom suite, all the old flooring, insulation, tiles, etc... was around £60 I thought that was reasonable.
I wasnt allowed into our recycling centre because my van has 6 wheels. I could have taken two of the rear wheels off but couldn't be arsed. So it gets squeezed into the wheelie bin for landfill
In Australia where I live it costs $450 per tonne to dump building waste at the tip. To drive my ute to the top of the big pile of rubbish and tip out all the bricks and plasterboard and bits of timber.
To do exactly the same thing 5 years ago cost $150.
Then they shut the big pile of rubbish near me so now I have to drive to another big pile of rubbish 40 minutes away. This is because having dozens of builders driving tonnes of rubbish an extra 40 minutes every day is 'environmental planning'.
I like the environment and planning seems sensible so although it seems like something is going very wrong, I think about that and rest easy in the knowledge that competent bureaucrats have everything in hand.
There was a time that there was none of this "You can't dispose of that" or having to sort stuff because councils would sort that rubish out and there were no fees for it...
With these rules that came in for "Environmental" reasons, the councils caused flytipping to grow.
I caught a chap fly tipping he could barely speak English, I told him he better get that crap loaded back in his car, there’s a tip down the road. My tip allows vans in for free if you get a note from the council it’s only last so long and only so many trips. Oh and I reported the flytipper to the police and they said well he picked it up so there’s no crime, how stupid is that he could have gone elsewhere and dumped it
In Poland in the city where I live we have waste burning facility which produces heat for city central heating system and electricity. They are happy to accept any wood waste as it’s great fuel for the waste power plant. The city I live in is 380.000 people. Anyway, you can bring even commercial waste you must just declare it’s your private waste. There are no limits and nobody is checking it.
You ought to be careful what you say. You will have all us Brits moving to Poland.
@@markrainford1219 and of course they check if you throw the trash into the right container but there no problem with it, please are rather disciplined.