@@christianweller4288 Exactly what I thought, he's in for a rude awakening one day because he can barely walk let alone fight. He needs stay in his car and let things go before he gets seriously hurt.
On the last clip the cyclist is in "primary position" also to keep out of the dreaded "door zone" as there were a number of parked cars on that street before the junction.
1st clip. Very lucky his door wasn't clipped. 2nd clip cammer forgot where his brake pedal was located. The chevrons should be considered a brick wall. 3rd road awareness. Always switch on hazard lights when on unlit roads when you are parking. 4th. Give cyclists 1.5 meters yards when overtaking. 🇮🇪
Important advice. Sometimes though, it's unavoidable, such as when a lane to one side of you is moving very slowly but yours is clear. In that case, slow down and look out for people changing lanes without caution - same goes when passing queues on dual-carriageways/motorways. Sadly, some people view roundabouts as a chance to get ahead.
@@PedroConejo1939I have been flashed, beeped and had some hand signals given to me that aren’t in the Highway Code simply because I refused to speed up and go along a line of stationary vehicles on a dual carriageway. Even when vehicles pulled out from stationary in front the annoyance from behind continued. Not sure how they expected the journey to be quicker as there was a lorry in no more than 150 yards in front of us doing the same speed 🤷🏻♂️ I do believe a gave an undocumented hand signal back as they overtook once we passed the line if vehicles and traffic started flowing more freely. Not my proudest moment…
I agree in principle but sometimes it doesn't make sense to dawdle around just because somebody else is. It's a junction with multiple lanes for a reason, if we were meant to go around in single file there'd only be one lane - it's all about maximising traffic flow. I treat it the same as filtering on my bike - if the speed delta is low enough to avoid any hazards then it's all good, but if I fly past you at 70mph while you're doing 10mph I'm doing something very wrong. The biggest rule on roundabouts shouldn't be not to use the lanes correctly and drive past people (it's not an overtake/undertake, it's just driving in a different lane) - the best rule is to not change lanes without checking that it's clear and safe to do so. If you're in the wrong lane, stay in that lane and fix it at the next junction.
Your staggered formation message saved me from being crashed into this morning. It was about ten to six so really early and the driver in front of me was giving me bad vibes. We come up to a roundabout with 3 lanes, they take the second lane for the third exit, I take the third lane for the fourth. They were taking the roundabout very slowly, way slower than needed. In my frustration I did want to overtake them but I kept staggered behind them just out of caution which was a good call because they drifted into my lane and then back into theirs. I will admit that I beeped them, more to reprimand than alert them of my presence but thanks to keeping staggered that’s all it was and not an exchange of insurance details. I should have the clip saved, I might send it in if I get round to it but either way I do want to say thanks. Your messages are making a difference.
The cyclist doesn't really move right so much as maintain their position away from the parked cars, on a narrow road, approaching a junction. The driver's perspective is troubling - what were they expecting?
I ride a lot and this happens once or twice a week at T-junctions. The two most common excuses are I gave you enough room and I'm a cyclist too!? Being in primary helps but some idiots will line up on the opposite side of the road.
Yeah, cyclists and motorcyclists really need to avoid “the door zone” along parked cars. If you don’t have crumple zones it can be really dangerous if someone opens their door without looking.
@@rogerwilco2 And if a pedestrian emerges from between parked cars, which happens more often now that cars are getting bigger. Disc brakes are good, but they won't stop you at point-blank range.
Submission, as always. I got yelled at by a bloke when I was riding my motorbike with a flat front tyre to a garage to try and inflate it (didn't work, blown inner tube). Apparently I shouldn't be on the road if he can't overtake me in a 30 limit. In reality I shouldn't have been on the road because I had a flat front tyre and it was like steering a cement mixer, but his only concern was that I was holding him up despite being far, far over to the left. Some drivers hate having to wait, even if it's only for two seconds until they can get past, like in this video and in my example.
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 indeed but this was the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night so going a short distance to a garage seemed like a good idea at the time. The tyre blew out when I was going 65mph anyway so the damage was already done
9:50 - quite scary that the driver in the last clip went for an overtake at the junction. Then reviewed the footage and still thought the cyclist was wrong!
@@Scartoons-t1h Did you mean to say completed the overtake? It appears the cammer had already gone for the overtake and got narked at the cyclist taking a good position 👍
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 She'd made her intentions clear, already moved to the primary position, to both get and give a clearer look to pedestrians or traffic from the more unsighted left. Dumb driver was impatient. If it takes a couple of hundred metres or even longer to get a clear overtake chance then so be it.
its getting worse by the day -- the lock downs etc and the loss of control of your own life in general is now being shown on the roads; people take their frustration and anger out where they think they have control ie driving their little metal box.
@@Slaeowulf People are just angrier these days. Too much fake social media and short lived happiness. People are scared to go out since COVID. Depression is on the rise, a symptom of this is a short fuse.
Met a couple of cyclists on a country road yesterday. After a short while they picked a large & wide passing spot, moved over, stopped and let us pass. I thought that's both considerate and really good to see.
I do this when cycling. But aggressive drivers expect us to immediately dismount and jump on the verge to let them pass. if not, they risk killing us instead of being safe for
I try to allow for traffic to pass freely at all times. But being on an ebike, I do now travel a bit quicker, so I'm less of a holdup than I was before I got the motor kit. I just wish my state law allowed for 20mph/32km/h instead of the EU rule of 25km/h. I feel MUCH safer crossing bridges at 30 than 25. People are far less inclined to try and pass dangerously with that tiny little bit of extra speed. It's frustrating that I have to choose between feeling safe and staying legal.
6:45 - the woman cammer 100% knew the car on the right was coming over. My nan does this all the time on the roundabout near me. When we come from town, the dual carriageway splits from 2 lanes to 3 at the roundabout lights. The first two lanes go straight across, but the middle one goes off at the 3 junction too at McDonalds. People often go in lane 3 which comes off at the megabowl lane, only to push across at the lights before McDonalds. Nan will speed up to stop them coming in from the right. Much like nan, the cammer saw the car indicate, sped up to undertake only to then complain when the car tried to push across.
That last clip is just awful Ignoring the fact there is a cyclist there, why would anyone accelerate out of a side road when the view out of the junction is restricted? No way they knew it was clear to the left Now bringing the cyclists in…to put another road user, a person, in danger with a MGIF attitude beggars belief. Would they have done that if it was a car? A police cyclist? A pedestrian along then across the road? The only good thing out of this clip was the driver moved into the opposite lane to pass the cyclist. But seeing what transpired previously, was that to purposely give 1.5m or was it simpy “they moved in front of me once and I’m worried they will do it again and scratch the paint” without any thought of the requirements?
0:29 merge in turn, It all about the difference in speed, if you slowly cruise past people usually accept you going in front because your lane is open. But if you dive bomb down past them and cut in - it is perceived as queue jumping even by the most laid back of people.
I think you hit it there. Annoys me when people speed past like that then cut in. Seen something similar yesterday where on a slip road coming up to a dual carriageway i saw about 3 cars overtaking before the lanes merge. Didnt get far ahead due to traffic.
9:49 Why would she move right? To get a better view to the left which enabled her to keep moving rather than to stop\look\move off, which would have held up the cars behind.
@@rogerwilco2 And also the disappearing into street furniture/parked card/pedestrians at junctions, being in the middle of the road makes you more visible.
There was absolutely no way the Audi could have merged in front of that oncoming taxi , even if they couldnt see the Cam Car deciding to speed out like that was insane
On the last clip the cyclist is in "primary position" also to keep out of the dreaded "door zone" as there were a number of parked cars on that street before the junction.
That last one is in Kendal. The road to the left goes back at a 45deg angle, so moving to the right also gives a wider view to the left as well as being in the right place at a T-junction.
Your first encounter with an insurance claim will teach you the vital lesson that swerving - especially into oncoming traffic - can make you the cause of a different and entirely more serious accident, and it's entirely possible the vehicle that caused you to swerve will be untouched. The cyclist - was it Aberystwyth? - by moving to the right gave herself more time to assess the traffic from her left. Stupid place to overtake.
Maybe but they do also take into account reasonable responses to avoiding an imminent and unexpected action like the blue audis. Yes braking would have been better but it happens fast and we are human at the end of the day.
@@pocky1scot1 I think the point the blue Audi pulled out there was not enough time and distance for the cammer to brake to avoid a collision, and would have T-boned the Audi. So steering was really the only option and hope the Audi would have braked. The cammer could have taken a wider line along that stretch, even going onto the hashings, to make themselves more visible to the Audi driver (as well as adjusting their speed as suggested). But I'm not really sure the cammer had noticed the Audi driver waiting to pull out until it did.
@@davem9204 Not enough time sure, but the thing is; swerving in oncoming traffic is worse. Because you can sum your speed and their speed and you have more energy breaking stuff. While crashing in the audi would have had only your speed. The best option is trying to stop. Otherwise just hit the car in front, it was at fault already. It is the same with pets and small animals, swerving might end up with car in the ditch and on its roof. Or you have some front end damage and can walk away. You can't help anyone if you are the one injured.
You can brake much more and harder in a straight line than when turning, So i always, in an emergency situation, keep the car going straight for as long as possible and then steer to avoid. It's something that comes with experience, and in the situation with the Audi, many drivers panic and do what the cam driver did. Which made the situation a lot more dangerous and in another scenario on a faster road maybe deadly.
Irrespective of the signal caution prompts the question in my mind, “Why is the bin lorry in lane 2?” To turn right or because the driver has got in the outside lane by mistake and cannot keep pace with cars behind. I’d be wary and patient for a moment.
No excuse for the car driver but it was terrible driving by the bin lorry - at the end of the clip it's actually taking the junction on the left. That's why they were driving so slowly, so as not to miss their turning. They should never have been in the right hand lane in the first place. A major cause of undertaking is that so many idiots will tootle along in an overtaking lane when they're not overtaking.
Absolutely correct about people being broken. But all you have to do to antagonize people is drive safely and legally, especially if anywhere near the speed limit!!
Drive at the speed limit and I notice all the time that the majority of drivers appear oblivious to the limit and get annoyed that you are as though your in the wrong!
@@grahamtowler1761 we had this in London last week. My husband was following the 20mph limit in Ealing, and we were overtaken twice and hooted at by tailgaters 3 times during a 15 minute journey through residential streets. 20mph does feel slow, but we soon caught up with the overtakers at the next junction!
@@theyouofyesterday6254 that's how bizarre it is you nearly always catch them up at the next set of lights while they're waiting there oblivious to it,yes 20 mph is difficult to keep to but keep to the limits no problem
@@theyouofyesterday6254 If you consider 20 mph slow, wait until, like me, you get old, have to give up driving, and rely on a mobility scooter to get around. With a maximum speed of 8 mph, 20 mph feels recklessly fast!
It's a crime that insurance companies are writing cars off so swiftly and for suspect reasons. Mine was hit by another car (they admitted fault). The car had only minor body damage so was otherwise perfectly drivable. The insurers dictated where I could send the car to be fixed (a garage of their choice, not local to me). The garage didn't even see it, only wanted photos of the damage which they then had to send to the insurers. The Garage came back and said privately they could fix the car no problem but that the insurers had decided to write the car off. Insurer's truck took it away and the man said they did this work regularly and that the car would be fixed somewhere and either sold or put into auction. It was fairly new, very low mileage and apart from the massive inconvenience of waiting for answers, the money I got from the insureres won't be enough to replace the car with the same value, year, mileage etc that they so quickly decided to write off. Thank you RAC for your 'great value' fully comprehensive insurance.
The same happened to me. Someone pulled out of a side road and hit me as I was passing. It was all very low speed, the cars grazed against each other but it tore a gash in the bodywork just behind the rear door on my driver side. It was only a week after I'd had a new clutch put in (£500!) and the car was otherwise in brilliant condition.
I think what irked the Smart driver wasn't just the overtake it was that they had to the braking straight after which would have made the Smart driver have to brake really sharply themselves. I dont condone their reaction but I can understand them being annoyed at our cammer who I hope doesn't think they were in the right. As for our friend in the red car, they saw the indicators but i think they felt that as it was their lane they wanted make a point of not letting the Corsa merge.
I don't know if the lens distortion makes the space look smaller, but to me it looked like the cammer took the smart's braking distance, and making them brake hard. That would piss me off, but never enough to get out of the car.
@ I’d say it was if the road ahead was clear but it wasn’t and in fact traffic ahead was slowing for a red light so by jumping into that space then having to brake it was always going to cause the Smart driver to have to take evasive action. Using Ashley’s test of whether you’d do that to a Police car it’s pretty clear that it’s a poor bit of driving that showed a real lack of anticipation and consideration for other road users and a fixation on trying to get ahead of traffic.
@@awild10 I’ve rewatched the clip and I still think I would’ve done the same even if it was the police, I’m looking at the cammer’s speed and (in my opinion) they don’t seem to brake hard enough due to the traffic in front to cause the smart car behind that much trouble, I really think that if the smart car was to be inconvenienced the smart car would have to have been accelerating which they don’t appear to be doing in the clip, instead they seem quite relaxed. I really believe that that driver only got fed up because someone got in front of him rather than because someone genuinely inconvenienced him.
Those little tiny car weigh hardly anything. They'll slow down plenty quick without even braking that hard. I think old mate was just pissed that someone was going fast more than "cutting in". Unfortunately we'll never know unless he shows up here to explain. Maybe he noticed the cam car had a plastic cover underneath dragging or the petrol flap open and just wanted to let them know 😂
I have done similar to what the cyclist did. Not only taking primary position but moving further over to the right to allow left turning traffic behind her to have enough space to safely pass, as she may have had to wait at the junction for other vehicles from the left
I came across your channel and have subscribed and watched many of the videos. I am 77 years old and have been driving for 50 years. I believe you are never too old to learn and your videos are great reminder of where I may be too settled in my ways. In the last couple of days I have done two 66 miles round trip journeys at night in my SEAT Arona and have consciouslly applied some of your teachings about space, all round awareness and not making an issue of certain incidents. I recently purchased this car, an automatic, and found it easy to switch from a manual gearbox. I think it could be useful if you could provide a video or two on driving in an automatic (DSG) car for those of us who have made the switch. Thanks and keep up the good work.
That last clip. I see drivers like that all the time on my commutes around the west country. They're often blazing through villages and towns whilst being bang on the speed and then make the surprised pikachu face when encountering peds/bikes.
Cyclists were always told, in the past, to leave enough room when passing parked cars just in case the car door opens suddenly. That’s why they take that position.
Cyclist moved right because that is where you are instructed to move to if you are turning right at a T-junction. Allows left turning vehicles to use the space. Nothing to do with primary.
With the 3rd clip, I live very near this roundabout by Coventry airport. The locals lovingly refer to it as "Suicide Island" because manoeuvres like this are an almost hourly occurrence. Every time I enter this roundabout, I can hear your voice saying, "Don't overtake on a roundabout" and so far, no issues. The issue with this junction in particular is that people assume that if they are taking the 3rd exit they need to be in the far right lane when entering, rather than actually reading the signs and markings indicating that this is not the case as the junction actually has 5 exits, so people cut across from lane 3 into lane 2 all the time. So unless you know the issues on this roundabout, it can be easy to not anticipate this happening.
On the subject of the difference in speed at roundabouts. There's a big multi lane roundabout near me that's very tricky to get on to when it's busy. Anyway I was going that way a couple of weeks ago and saw a big enough gap based on the speed that cars have been approaching before that. One driver approaching from the right decided to floor it then blare the horn at the point I would have been well out of their way if they had been going a similar speed to everyone else. I think speeding around roundabouts is one of the more dangerous things people can do, especially when most people don't tend to stay within the lines.
Interesting you use the term 'speeding'. I agree with your sentiment about speed approaching and on roundabouts. And in particular acceleration. A difficult roundabout can result in a lot more high acceleration entries to make a gap. Back to the speeding though, were they actually above the speed limit or just not at the speed you expected? It's quite easy to come into conflict with drivers that accelerate fast even though no one has technically broken a law or a HWC rule. Emerging situations and lane change situations etc.
@pocky1scot1 I don't think this particular guy was speeding in the legal sense. It was more like he saw me take the gap and got offended even though he had not entered the roundabout and I was half way through it.
Far too many people drive too fast onto and around roundabouts. They might not technically be speeding but if everyone went that little bit slower, left appropriate distances between vehicles and most importantly, appreciate that we all have to get onto the roundabout in the first place and that some entrances are more difficult than others to come on from, roundabouts would generally flow an awful lot better.
@@ScotlandwithFraser Absolutely. People often treat a roundabout as if it's just a regular straight bit of road! There's so much to keep an eye on when negotiating a multi-lane roundabout. It's one thing if you're familiar with it, but every one has it's own lane structure and priorities, which you may not even be able to see properly depending on the conditions. The best thing is to err on the side of caution, keep your speed down and distance up. There's one near me where I frequently see people indicating to leave at the exit before my entry point, then realising they've made a mistake at the last moment and continuing on, so I'll always wait until I know they're definitely exiting.
6:00 I think a situation like this would catch out a lot of people (certainly me). The only thing I would hope I would do different is brake and not steer, and certainly not into oncoming traffic.
I tried to overtake a Smart car on the Motorway, I must have had a 25mph closing speed on him and I got nowhere near, he pissed all over me and the Porsche that tried the same. I later learnt that people put Hayabusa engines in them.
Having been driving on four continents for almost 50 years, I long ago lost count of how many countries that is, what I Do know is that unlike any other country I've driven in, so many UK drivers out there take being overtaken as a personal affront. Almost as though the speed they choose to drive at is the speed that everyone should drive at.. passing them is interpreted as an insult. Some will even accelerate in order to prevent someone passing them.. idiots.. If I'm faced with a potential head-on collision or simply sending the idiot into a hedge.. guess what.
@@user10184 There's always one of you out there isn't there... hiding your name.. pathetic. I can usually assess someone's driving characteristics within a quarter of a mile of spotting them.. it may be that the driver here was able to do the same and saw someone driving unfocused and hesitant..I don't know, wasn't there.. but if so then better to have them behind rather than in front.. nothing to do with ego.. just fully attentive to other road users.
@@jamesgraham6122 - The 'better behind me' excuse is rarely convincing and causing a collision in a desperate attempt to achieve it is manifestly absurd. I doubt you're the driving God you appear to think you are. (No point in putting a name here because it doesn't mean anything to anyone).
5:34 for me, it’s also concerning that the Audi didn’t anticipate their obscured view at the junction, and take a look through the parked cars to get a better view to the right. Adds to their impatient mindset.
If you look at _other_ UK dash cam channels on You Tube 50% of the collisions are when people overtake on roundabouts as in the third clip. Do NOT overtake on roundabouts, drive round them in a staggered fashion - no crashy bang-bang, easy!
A roundabout near me that is clearly marked with a straight-ahead marking but drivers constantly turn right. Luckily I try to follow your advice and leave space, it has saved me a couple of times.
The reason CarVertical probably only has 11 miles recorded for that Taxi is due to Northern Ireland having a separate MOT system. I'd guess the 11 miles was recorded when a new V5C was issued, but then likely as taxis must have an MOT every year in Northern Ireland, and MOTs are handled by the Department for Infrastructure (no private MOTs exist in NI), that data is held by the DfI. If you check MOT histories for any NI car on the government website, you'll see a Pass/Fail result, but no other details about the MOT is recorded. This issue dates back to Northern Ireland having a separate DVLA, which isn't in sync with the DVA in Swansea. About a decade ago, all car registration/car tax was merged with the DVA, but the DVLA still handles driving tests, MOTs and license renewals.
I wish more drivers knew about why cyclists ride where they do, rather than going with their first thought of "this cyclist is intentionally blocking me getting past" and then getting angry and impatient about it.
@glenn1534 there is a way to do it. I generally find if you check over your shoulder and communicate your intentions most drivers are fine then pull back in when it's sensible. The problems come when you don't check and don't communicate with drivers behind
@@wrightwoodwork True, I often find the issue is with those who have caught up once you've already pulled out. I even once got abuse from someone sat in traffic on the other side of the road because I was riding primary to avoid the door zone.
The weird thing with the Audi is that if you freeze frame at (say) 6:06 they aren't even turning into the lane where the taxi would be. It's as if they are pulling into the median across the oncoming lane as if they were perhaps going to immediately turn right back into the estate. Like even with all the acceleration in Christendom that Taxi is getting cut-up, which makes the Audis move even more incomprehensible.
Yes, your viewer shouldn't have over taken there. If the other car had just re-overtaken it would have been a bit phethetic. But wow to get out of his car and to escalate like that.
When you're a thumb with a beard and a special (illegal) number plate, gotta prove yourself. It's also why some police upload provisions require two minutes of video before and after the incident. You could find yourself under their critical glare.
Reminds me of a car I saw the other day - estate type Audi, driver delivering parcels. It was STUFFED FULL of parcels. Boot up to the roof line, the rear passenger seats full right to the roof, front passengers seat also full to the point where they were jammed up against the windscreen. Zero left visiblity.
In the first clip, I think one can reasonably argue that the road layout contributed to the accident. There is a disabled parking bay right next to the T junction (with the learner vehicle in). Any any vehicle parked here will block sight lines between motorists on different arms of the junction. This is one of the reasons for highway code rule 243 "DO NOT stop or park ... opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space", and why many junctions are marked with double yellow lines. In this case, there is an authorised parking space (so the learner car is not in the wrong), but the parking space is so badly designed that it can't help but be dangerous. My solution is to turn the disabled parking bay into a green verge, creating a curb extension, and specify a new disabled parking bay somewhere else.
01:45 I agree, the Highway Code recommends merging in turn when vehicles are traveling slowly, such as when approaching a traffic incident or road works, however, it is not recommended to merge in turn at high speeds.
There were several other things that the driver would be taking in for the emerging Audi clip: the lights of the pedestrian crossing, the bus indicating on the right. The fact that they swerved instinctively to avoid as the blue Audi pulled out suggests to me that they either hadn't seen it or had no expectation that it was going to accelerate out of the junction. The Audi driver didn't even creep forward. Seeing it in slow motion afterwards is very different from being there in the moment. I think that one would be tricky to avoid and driving defensively all of the time is difficult to maintain.
There's also a learner car parked up that the driver is probably noting in case it pulls out. I'd say it's quite a poor road layout, the parking bays are too close to the side road.
2:03 What the cammer has done - and this is really important - is taken away the driver of the smart cars braking safety buffer. The smart car driver had left a nice gap and our cammer has rudely filled it. Whilst I would not repass nor get out that would certainly get at least a horn pip or light flash.
I don't drive a Smart(tm) and if I am in a bad mood, my response to a person taking away my forward braking distance is to just maintain the distance they seem to feel is a safe following distance for me. for me, it is a major irritant when someone does an MBIF and then doesn't get on down the road.
Have had people literally overtake into my braking space, and not even in situations where merging in turn would apply, and then immediately have to slow, and it is _really_ annoying - especially when the reason I've left such a gap (which often isn't as large as I'd have wanted it) is because I've experienced brakes locking and the accompanying sliding and loss of stability it comes with. If they got themselves collided with, you can bet they'd start whining about "you had plenty of time and space to stop"...
04:22 Taxis undergo a more thorough safety check than a standard vehicle, called a PSV (Public Service Vehicle) inspection, instead of a normal MOT, this is because taxis are used to transport passengers, and the inspection ensures that the vehicle is roadworthy and safe for passengers and other drivers.
9:37 that is crap driving from the bin wagon too. Leaving it that late before moving over. A serious lack of forward planning from a "professional" driver.
Just noticed in the first clip, I do believe the driver of the Smart car should be reported to DVLA for displaying a number plate with incorrect spacing and what appears to be a mark made to look like an apostrophe MR LAZY’S indeed
@@SpunkletrumpetThank you, for some reason I thought DVLA issue the registration number and the DVSA make sure it complies It is still too early on a Sunday 🤣
Hasn't he also committed a criminal offence too? Either attempting to obtain insurance by deception (Not disclosing the illegal plate) or driving without valid insurance.
@@Adam_Boots Ive checked the government site and he failed his MOT on 02/01/24 for incorrect Front and Rear Plates. I wouldnt be surprised if the plate he failed with is the one he is currently using, and just switched them up for the retest
9:40 Given the way the cammer is driving in the second clip you just know what they drive like all the time. These sorts of drivers just need to chill out and go with the flow more. These are the ones that cause accidents not the clueless lost idiots with no lane awareness.
@@JdeBP She stays within the side markings. It looks like lane 1 splits into two as it enters the junction. Look at the mini-dashed line on the right when the video unpauses at 9:00
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l You have been confused as M. Neal has been. 09:00 is a different junction. It is the A45 eastbound to Rugby. The first of the two clips is the A45 _westbound_ to Birmingham. See my top-level comment for details.
Clip 1. Regardless of what happened, malicious damage to property is a crime and as such the Smart car driver should be charged. It is because so much petty crime is not punished that it has now become epidemic.
To be fair, the cammer wasn't too bothered about damage to their car when they were cutting up the smart car driver. If you're concerned about your vehicle getting damaged, then maybe don't throw it around like it's a battering ram.
I see that type of driver in the first clip quite regularly, no not the chap getting out and getting angry but the viewer who sent the clip in. Getting as far in fromt as they can and then cutting in under braking causing flow issues behind Without knowing what transpired previously it is difficult to tell fully what is going on but the speed difference seems a little too high passing through a junction towards a merge point. It happens, and as annoying as it is just remember it makes no difference to the journey time…you all ended up waiting at the next set of lights anyway Now let me see what Ashley says about the clip…
Does it matter if they accelerated past from standstill or they arrived later to a green light while the smart car had just gotten underway from stationary? I'm not sure the situation before really does matter. As you say neither is going to have a different in journey time. I suppose the smart cammers reaction might be because cammer was right up his arse for the last 4 miles flashing his high beams to antagonise them. I don't think that's the case here though.
It looks to me the cammer already had plenty of speed and was going way faster than the Smart car, so weren't accelerating into the gap in front of the Smart car. I don't think the Smart even needed to brake for the cammer looking at the speed he was going. For the cammer to slot in behind the Smart car they would have needed to brake quite heavily, and that might have been the less safe option here, as we don't know what's behind or alongside them. Obviously without seeing the build-up to all these we can only make assumptions about what led up to it.
07:33 he needs to read rule 249 of the Highway Code - all vehicles MUST display parking lights when parked on a road or a lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph.
Mind you, do people even know what "parking lights" are? Especially for people who never park on "fast roads", I'd be surprised if you can find someone who does know what they are and how to put them on (I do know how to do them for a few cars I've controlled, though have never needed to put them on for parking). Certainly I know that many motorcycles/motorscooters don't even have them (nor do many have a way of leaving the hazard lights when "keyed out", if they even have hazard lights to begin with!) It also kind of explains a theory I have about some "lay bys" and side roads from faster roads that have a lower (20/30) speed limit, despite it being virtually impossible to even manage the reduced speed - in theory, it would be a waste of time going out to set the lower limit, but it does let anyone parked there to not need parking lights to be left on...
What we're missing in the clip of the Audi emerging is a rear view from the cammer's car. If they had someone close behind that could, but may not, explain why the [misjudged] swerve rather than an emergency stop.
6:05 The only thing you didn't address here is the taxi having the best view out of all three vehicles and didn't at least slow when he saw the blue car emerge into an inevitable crash.
It’s literally broken on the other side too. Also if it hasn’t being repainted. Then thats down to the fault of the council. As it’s not painted. It’s classed as broken
The “other side” is a road edge marking and the curved edge (which is the one I believe you are referring to) is on a different side to the hatchings. Different sides can have different boundaries and is quite common on some roads to have broken one side and solid the other for additional safety measures. The fact remains, and has been proven in case law, that an unpainted line after a repair *still applies* and in this case, the bound is solid
@@PS-fl7et you are correct that in law, a temporary disturbance in a solid white line does not constitute it to be a broken white line. It’s all dependent on context. If you had a long stretch of road with a solid white line and a couple of breaks from pot holes. It would be unreasonable to think that that one particular section is broken. However, the area in this video is very small and has a break in it where the manhole is, round about halfway down the line, so it looks like it’s meant to be there. On the approach you can also see a broken line on the other side. Meaning you can both enter the hatches and leave the hatches. If there is clear ambiguity on something. It will go in the favour of the motorist.
@@ReeceJCoxy: "Also if it hasn’t being repainted. Then thats down to the fault of the council." Agreed, it's ambiguous enough that I see it as broken, and if it's meant to be solid, then it should have been repainted, otherwise you can't blame someone for misinterpreting it. (not that the cammer should have tried to overtake where they did, rather than holding back for a while)
I've said it before on this channel: too many drivers seem to see junctions, particularly roundabouts, as an opportunity to overtake. Sometimes it's really hard to avoid conflict at large roundabouts given both this mindset, and the fact that many drivers don't seem to plan ahead and end up in the wrong lane as a result.
The blue Audi pulling out… Looks like the viewers speed was fairly low, 30? Emergency stop in a modern car at those speeds is highly effective…would prob have been enough.
Just so you know mate London Private Hire Vehicles have to have 2 MOTs a year and a TFL inspection once a year, obviously different rules apply in different parts of the country. Great Video as always 👍
I had a similar situation last month to the one where the Corsa hits the cam car on the roundabout, where a driver in lane 1 tried to continue around a 3-lane roundabout and hit me as I was trying to merge onto a 2-lane slip road. They were 100% in the wrong, but I had been in their blind spot and was passing them when they hit me, so I wasn't easily visible. I'm now much more cautious about this happening in the future.
In that last clip you can even see the road marking telling riders to use primary position. Absolute clown. I honestly think there are people that erroneously think that riders are just obstacles to go around rather than road users that need to be safely overtaken. They are outraged that someone on a bike is using the road properly and put her in danger, and then sent you a video of it? Baffling.
Clip 1 . I know a few people who if found in that situation would have taken the smart door off as they carried on their merry way . Just to see Mr Lazy having to work to pick it up 🤣
I believe the Audi definitely could've seen the car coming in that clip, they just couldn't be bothered to look. I say this as someone who emerges from my road every day with a thin gap to look down past 5/6 parked cars at times for oncoming traffic, and patience is often deployed. What is scary for me, is that i see many others do what the Audi did, and its something like a miracle we havent had a bad accident yet.
I drive down that stretch in the first clip regularly to that retail park, that happens more frequently than it should (not actually all that frequently, but more than once is more frequently than it should in my eyes)
5:03 And this is why you are not supposed to park directly next to an intersection. And why competent RCAs don't put parking spots right next to intersections. 6:39: "Which car is gonna hit your viewer?" Ah, your viewer is about to overtake someone and cause an accident, right? 6:49: BOOM.
Complete disregard for other people to swerve like that. A hard break and the the damage would only been to two cars. Like you said it could have been a bike or motorbike oncoming.
5:36 I doubt many would even notice the blue Audi. I'd be double checking the pedestrian crossing and looking for passenger getting off the bus and trying to cross behind it.
The roundabout junction clip - not the viewer's fault, though I was always taught to not overtake (or pass) another vehicle on a roundabout. And this ties in with one of Ashley's previous videos about leaving sufficient space to your right and left.
Rule of thumb - cars with illegally spaced private numberplates normally contain arseholes. The viewer did very well to avoid the door of that Smart car, I think in my panic to get away from being assaulted I'd have driven straight through it.
10:08 cyclist looks behind them turning their head 90 degrees or so to the left and then they look left, they have no idea where the cammer is simply because they haven’t been seen Well done if you can call it that to them for leaving the third attempt of the overtake until after the white fiesta, Postman Pat’s van and the junction
That first clip was actually some really solid driving; chose to overtake and then merge instead of slowing down, then slowed down well ahead of time for the traffic lights. That reaction from the Smart driver was insane. Yes the pass was late, but with the traffic lights there and still well within the area where you are allowed to merge that wasn't really an issue
21st November post. Had similar yesterday but didn’t pull out because I couldn’t see past the flat bed on pavement with sides up blocking site line at junction. When I asked not nicely to move he looked around the front and said it was ok. Also car that undertook on roundabout should have stayed behind.
What is it with not overtaking cyclists at junctions that is difficult for drivers? If I'm on a bike, I'm already concerned with crossing traffic and oncoming traffic at junctions, I don't need to also be concerned about traffic I can't see from behind. I'm sorry I stopped you getting to the next red light a few seconds earlier I guess.
Does my nut in, get ahead of me at the last second then hold me up because they have to spend a lot longer checking for traffic, when there's every chance I'm not even going the same way as them, rendering the whole exercise pointless
I live in an area with few multi lane roundabouts, when i go somewhere with lots od of them it is tricky to place yourself in the correct lane especially if its an unfamiliar route. That roundabout driver seemed confident in what they were doing however thats the easy part. The difficult part is knowing who might not be confident or in the wrong lane, unless you are telepathic you cant truly know so give space if you can and as ashley says dont overtake.
They are a pain as they are not always set out the same and add to that someone trying to get the correct turn off they need who has never used it makes them the more unpleasant places to drive. They did a major upgrade of one near me I hated as I only used it once a year but had poor layout, the marking were almost none existent and the locals drove like idiots on it racing around. Now they added extra lanes into it and marked it properly it works nicely which has also somehow slowed the pace on it.
Both of your comments apply. Tollbar End was upgraded a few years ago _and_ the Corsa driver made a (commonly made) mistake and got into the wrong lane. But so did the cammer. See my top-level comment for the full details. Part of the problem is that the A45 westbound approach is mis-marked and is a 3-lane approach to a 4-lane roundabout.
Cyclists and motorcycle drivers will take a wide berth around parked cars to avoid “the door zone”, as many people open their doors without looking, which can be fatal if you don’t have crumple zones.
Not just doors, but, for the better riders, for the sake of people (and even moreso, children) that may run out without checking that nothing is coming.
Large people in small cars ,he had trouble getting out to knock on your viewers window. And the last but 1 clip . With the roundabout. Your viewers shocking near undertake of that bin lorry didn't they relise lorrys have big blind spots. Im sure theres normally signs on thease wagons to that effect,yes for cyclists but it still applies to vehicles under taking. Roundabouts with multiple lanes can be a bit confusing for road users but always give others a chance to correct there mistakes,most people don't like going around a roundabout again to there exit .so they do try to correct it by pushing in ,but i just allow them the space. Fantastic video as usual Ashley full of invaluable advice for all to take on board.
The other reason for moving out into the middle of the lane in that last clip is because of those cars on the left. Nobody wants to encounter a door suddenly opening when cycling along. I suppose that driver doesn't cycle or they would surely know this.
Bit harsh at 6:08 to say "prioritize braking". Though in hindsight that would be ideal. He had a split second and when he started steering he probably had his foot on the wrong pedal (yes, ideally it should be hovering over the brake) and he had probably not estimated the emerging car's speed yet (so intuited a small steer might have avoided the collision). Yes, it's not perfect driving, but he is not a driving instructor and maybe has not got 10+ years' experience of other people's driving. But it IS a good lesson to be ready to brake when you don't have clear vision around any kind of corner. Also, his speed might not be illegal, but any kind of hazard suggests driving at the speed limit is not necessarily right. Do you drive at 29mph when passing an unloading bus just because it is within the speed limit?
That road is the A2 Shore Road in North Belfast. It's far too wide for a 30mph road, which results in many people treating it more like a dual carriageway at times. Even that section has 2 lanes going northbound (one is a bus lane), one lane southbound, on street parking both sides, and there's a central hatched area that's wide enough to be a car lane. Given I've probably driven that road countless times, the thing that I would be anticipating more is the Puffin Crossing before the Leisure Centre on the right of the video. Given there's pedestrians near it, it can change at any second if it's been activated. That would probably be my first thought when going past there. I think also it's just after the exits to a really large Lidl and ASDA, so if you manage to negotiate your way out of that busy section, you'll probably be thinking there's fewer hazards up ahead.
I think steering instead of braking was pretty much the only issue with the 2nd driver. It was a horribly executed swerve, if you don't know how to avoid obstacles then you should stick to braking. If was not a "small steer"; they sent themselves into the opposite lane even before Audi touched their car. They did not countersteer to avoid leaving their space/lane. They were probably looking at the emerging car instead of where they were going. There was nothing good about it. Reactions like this are what's deadly at these speeds in a city environment. It would have been so much better to just brake and hit the other car without putting everyone around at risk. You don't need hindsight to know that 99% of road incidents will have the best outcome if you just brake really hard. It should be every driver's instinct.
@@sekainomado Agree it was an oversteer heading towards the oncoming traffic was poor instinct. Truth is we are not trained to deal with this kind of thing as learner drivers., so some people will just not have the right instincts. If he'd been going even a little slower (how much time would that cost?) he could easily have stopped by braking, but at his actual speed it would depend on his brakes and his reaction time. So I'd argue that (for him at least) speed was a factor.
You need to reanalyse two of those clips, M. Neal, because you've based your analysis upon an error. 06:30 is the Tollbar End roundabout approached _westwards_ from the A45, Coventry airport signed and (in daylight) itself visible to the left, and 08:33 is the Tollbar End roundabout approached _eastwards_ from the A45, Aldi in the airport _retail park_ visible to the left. _Two different approaches_ to that roundabout. I can attest from having driven there that the road markings on the roundabout have definitely _not_ seen any improvement since 2021. The westwards A45 approach in the first clip was mis-marked then, and remains mis-marked to this day. (Further back east on that approach the B4110 is confusingly _marked alternately_ in lanes 3 (as B4110 + M69 Leicester) and 2 (as A45 Birmingham + B4110), contradicting both the dashed lane markings and the green road signs.) The cammer approached the roundabout in lane 1 (A45 Birmingham + Airport), then _erroneously drifted over_ to lane 2 (A45 Birmingham + B4110) when coming over the stop line, crossing the dashed lines at 06:42. The cammer should have been behind the silver saloon in lane 1 at 06:45 instead of to the right of it. The Corsa was in lane 2 (A45 Birmingham + B4110) on the approach, and made the same mistake of going into lane 3 (B4110 + A46 Leicester) over the stop line, and was apparently trying to correct this and come back to lane 2 just after the _next_ stop line. Contrary to your analysis, lane 2 there _does_ exit to the A45 Birmingham and the Corsa could reasonably expect to exit that way having corrected its mistake and got back into lane 2. You can clearly see not any _improvement_ but the _difference_ in the road markings at 09:04. They are the _eastbound_ markings for A45 _Rugby_ not the _westbound_ markings for A45 _Birmingham_ as in the first clip.
I agree although not quite with your analysis of the driving. Lanes 1 and 2 require a sharp deviation to the left (lane 1 is often empty after the airport exit in my experience) It appears Corsa drifted to lane 3 and viewer took advantage of the space opening up in lane 2 and changed lane to make progress. I'm surprised by her surprise that the Corsa returned to lane 2. Ashley's comment re. being staggered is still relevant though. The second clip suggests viewer has a habit of making progress on the inside of another vehicle that may move across her path.
"Oh no a hazard!" Better steer (into oncoming traffic) rather than brake. Would love to know how the insurance handles this sort of incident; as its hard to argue, from the Taxi's point of view that had the viewer acted predictably (and chose instead to brake and hit/miss the Audi as a result) the taxi would be completely damage free. My suspicion is that many insurers would view this as two separate accidents, with a contributing factor, but would still attribute fault to the viewer for the second collision (damned by his own dashcam). The viewers choice to evade the at fault Audi, caused the second collision. I'd consider this slightly different to the idea of say rear-ending parked/queuing traffic causing consecutive collisions (where the argument is going to find the source of origin at fault) as there is essentially nothing the queuing traffic could have done differently. The viewer however, as iterated, should have been prepared to stop. They absolutely were the cause of that secondary collision with the taxi by choosing to think they were skilled enough to just steer around the hazard, rather than come to a stop altogether. Need to practice their emergency braking.
Clip 1: I’m thinking potential cardiac arrest if the aggrieved driver is that worked up. That said, nice to have video evidence of assault with ABH while waiting for the ambulance.
If you find yourself in the wrong lane on a roundabout, just take a small diversion and find a safe place to turn. What's it going to add to your journey, 5-20 minutes?
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Big guy getting angry in small car will never not be funny 😂
From Get Carter “You're a big man, but you're in bad shape”.
He really didn’t seem too steady on his feet.
@@christianweller4288 Exactly what I thought, he's in for a rude awakening one day because he can barely walk let alone fight. He needs stay in his car and let things go before he gets seriously hurt.
On the last clip the cyclist is in "primary position" also to keep out of the dreaded "door zone" as there were a number of parked cars on that street before the junction.
1st clip. Very lucky his door wasn't clipped. 2nd clip cammer forgot where his brake pedal was located. The chevrons should be considered a brick wall.
3rd road awareness. Always switch on hazard lights when on unlit roads when you are parking.
4th. Give cyclists 1.5 meters yards when overtaking.
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Big fella getting angry in a small car needs a dedicated channel.
Don't overtake or undertake on roundabouts. There's enough going on and there's always a good chance someone has found themselves in the wrong lane.
Important advice. Sometimes though, it's unavoidable, such as when a lane to one side of you is moving very slowly but yours is clear. In that case, slow down and look out for people changing lanes without caution - same goes when passing queues on dual-carriageways/motorways. Sadly, some people view roundabouts as a chance to get ahead.
@@PedroConejo1939I have been flashed, beeped and had some hand signals given to me that aren’t in the Highway Code simply because I refused to speed up and go along a line of stationary vehicles on a dual carriageway. Even when vehicles pulled out from stationary in front the annoyance from behind continued. Not sure how they expected the journey to be quicker as there was a lorry in no more than 150 yards in front of us doing the same speed 🤷🏻♂️
I do believe a gave an undocumented hand signal back as they overtook once we passed the line if vehicles and traffic started flowing more freely. Not my proudest moment…
@@smilerbob I don't doubt it. Any precaution taken to reduce a potentially serious risk will irritate the hard of thinking.
I agree in principle but sometimes it doesn't make sense to dawdle around just because somebody else is. It's a junction with multiple lanes for a reason, if we were meant to go around in single file there'd only be one lane - it's all about maximising traffic flow. I treat it the same as filtering on my bike - if the speed delta is low enough to avoid any hazards then it's all good, but if I fly past you at 70mph while you're doing 10mph I'm doing something very wrong. The biggest rule on roundabouts shouldn't be not to use the lanes correctly and drive past people (it's not an overtake/undertake, it's just driving in a different lane) - the best rule is to not change lanes without checking that it's clear and safe to do so. If you're in the wrong lane, stay in that lane and fix it at the next junction.
I should also point out that passing a driver that's indicating to join your lane is dumb no matter where, when or what's going on.
Your staggered formation message saved me from being crashed into this morning. It was about ten to six so really early and the driver in front of me was giving me bad vibes. We come up to a roundabout with 3 lanes, they take the second lane for the third exit, I take the third lane for the fourth. They were taking the roundabout very slowly, way slower than needed. In my frustration I did want to overtake them but I kept staggered behind them just out of caution which was a good call because they drifted into my lane and then back into theirs.
I will admit that I beeped them, more to reprimand than alert them of my presence but thanks to keeping staggered that’s all it was and not an exchange of insurance details.
I should have the clip saved, I might send it in if I get round to it but either way I do want to say thanks. Your messages are making a difference.
Good call to stay back when a driver is moving slowly or doesn't look like they know where they're going / what they're doing.
It’s the best piece of driving advice I use daily for sure. It has saved me over the years as well.
The cyclist doesn't really move right so much as maintain their position away from the parked cars, on a narrow road, approaching a junction. The driver's perspective is troubling - what were they expecting?
I ride a lot and this happens once or twice a week at T-junctions. The two most common excuses are I gave you enough room and I'm a cyclist too!? Being in primary helps but some idiots will line up on the opposite side of the road.
Yeah, cyclists and motorcyclists really need to avoid “the door zone” along parked cars. If you don’t have crumple zones it can be really dangerous if someone opens their door without looking.
@@rogerwilco2 And if a pedestrian emerges from between parked cars, which happens more often now that cars are getting bigger. Disc brakes are good, but they won't stop you at point-blank range.
Submission, as always. I got yelled at by a bloke when I was riding my motorbike with a flat front tyre to a garage to try and inflate it (didn't work, blown inner tube). Apparently I shouldn't be on the road if he can't overtake me in a 30 limit. In reality I shouldn't have been on the road because I had a flat front tyre and it was like steering a cement mixer, but his only concern was that I was holding him up despite being far, far over to the left. Some drivers hate having to wait, even if it's only for two seconds until they can get past, like in this video and in my example.
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 indeed but this was the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night so going a short distance to a garage seemed like a good idea at the time. The tyre blew out when I was going 65mph anyway so the damage was already done
9:50 - quite scary that the driver in the last clip went for an overtake at the junction. Then reviewed the footage and still thought the cyclist was wrong!
Excellent cycling, though. If she had been a bit further left, the scammer would have probably gone for the overtake
the cyclist was not riding perfectly, but it is still the motorist's responsibility to not endanger them.
@@Scartoons-t1h Did you mean to say completed the overtake? It appears the cammer had already gone for the overtake and got narked at the cyclist taking a good position 👍
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 yes, it looked to me like the cyclist was oblivious to the car, and was avoiding on the road.
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 She'd made her intentions clear, already moved to the primary position, to both get and give a clearer look to pedestrians or traffic from the more unsighted left. Dumb driver was impatient. If it takes a couple of hundred metres or even longer to get a clear overtake chance then so be it.
"the roads and people in general are more broken than ever..." so so true Ashley.
its getting worse by the day -- the lock downs etc and the loss of control of your own life in general is now being shown on the roads; people take their frustration and anger out where they think they have control ie driving their little metal box.
Okay. I'll bite. How did social distancing 5 years ago cause road rage?
@@Slaeowulf People are just angrier these days. Too much fake social media and short lived happiness. People are scared to go out since COVID. Depression is on the rise, a symptom of this is a short fuse.
@@supergeekjay According to what source?
Met a couple of cyclists on a country road yesterday. After a short while they picked a large & wide passing spot, moved over, stopped and let us pass. I thought that's both considerate and really good to see.
All fun and games unless you are busting for a sh*t
I do this when cycling. But aggressive drivers expect us to immediately dismount and jump on the verge to let them pass. if not, they risk killing us instead of being safe for
I try to allow for traffic to pass freely at all times. But being on an ebike, I do now travel a bit quicker, so I'm less of a holdup than I was before I got the motor kit.
I just wish my state law allowed for 20mph/32km/h instead of the EU rule of 25km/h. I feel MUCH safer crossing bridges at 30 than 25. People are far less inclined to try and pass dangerously with that tiny little bit of extra speed. It's frustrating that I have to choose between feeling safe and staying legal.
Helps if they have mirrors so they cannot but help notice what's going on behind.
6:45 - the woman cammer 100% knew the car on the right was coming over. My nan does this all the time on the roundabout near me. When we come from town, the dual carriageway splits from 2 lanes to 3 at the roundabout lights. The first two lanes go straight across, but the middle one goes off at the 3 junction too at McDonalds. People often go in lane 3 which comes off at the megabowl lane, only to push across at the lights before McDonalds. Nan will speed up to stop them coming in from the right.
Much like nan, the cammer saw the car indicate, sped up to undertake only to then complain when the car tried to push across.
That last clip is just awful
Ignoring the fact there is a cyclist there, why would anyone accelerate out of a side road when the view out of the junction is restricted? No way they knew it was clear to the left
Now bringing the cyclists in…to put another road user, a person, in danger with a MGIF attitude beggars belief. Would they have done that if it was a car? A police cyclist? A pedestrian along then across the road?
The only good thing out of this clip was the driver moved into the opposite lane to pass the cyclist. But seeing what transpired previously, was that to purposely give 1.5m or was it simpy “they moved in front of me once and I’m worried they will do it again and scratch the paint” without any thought of the requirements?
0:29 merge in turn,
It all about the difference in speed, if you slowly cruise past people usually accept you going in front because your lane is open.
But if you dive bomb down past them and cut in - it is perceived as queue jumping even by the most laid back of people.
What's the speed differential of stationary traffic all trying to let people merge at random points?
I think you hit it there. Annoys me when people speed past like that then cut in. Seen something similar yesterday where on a slip road coming up to a dual carriageway i saw about 3 cars overtaking before the lanes merge. Didnt get far ahead due to traffic.
9:49 Why would she move right?
To get a better view to the left
which enabled her to keep moving rather than to stop\look\move off, which would have held up the cars behind.
Also, as a cyclist or motorcyclist, you really want to avoid “the door zone” of parked cars.
@@rogerwilco2 And also the disappearing into street furniture/parked card/pedestrians at junctions, being in the middle of the road makes you more visible.
There was absolutely no way the Audi could have merged in front of that oncoming taxi , even if they couldnt see the Cam Car deciding to speed out like that was insane
There is nothing behind the taxi. They might have been planning to emerge halfway and then fully emerge after the taxi
@@Tillyard86 At the speed they emerged, they were not planning to do so halfway.
@ They might, I've seen it before, people pull out halfway, wait for a gap, and then emerge fully.
But not in that case, that was fully committed.
I am also worried about the poor road design. With those parking spaces there it would be hard for any car to merge safely.
On the last clip the cyclist is in "primary position" also to keep out of the dreaded "door zone" as there were a number of parked cars on that street before the junction.
That last one is in Kendal. The road to the left goes back at a 45deg angle, so moving to the right also gives a wider view to the left as well as being in the right place at a T-junction.
Your first encounter with an insurance claim will teach you the vital lesson that swerving - especially into oncoming traffic - can make you the cause of a different and entirely more serious accident, and it's entirely possible the vehicle that caused you to swerve will be untouched.
The cyclist - was it Aberystwyth? - by moving to the right gave herself more time to assess the traffic from her left. Stupid place to overtake.
Maybe but they do also take into account reasonable responses to avoiding an imminent and unexpected action like the blue audis. Yes braking would have been better but it happens fast and we are human at the end of the day.
Shouldn’t be on the road in the first place they often can’t keep the speed limit of the road.
@@cerovk6000 do you say the same about tractors? Or horses?
@@pocky1scot1 I think the point the blue Audi pulled out there was not enough time and distance for the cammer to brake to avoid a collision, and would have T-boned the Audi. So steering was really the only option and hope the Audi would have braked.
The cammer could have taken a wider line along that stretch, even going onto the hashings, to make themselves more visible to the Audi driver (as well as adjusting their speed as suggested). But I'm not really sure the cammer had noticed the Audi driver waiting to pull out until it did.
@@davem9204 Not enough time sure, but the thing is; swerving in oncoming traffic is worse. Because you can sum your speed and their speed and you have more energy breaking stuff. While crashing in the audi would have had only your speed. The best option is trying to stop. Otherwise just hit the car in front, it was at fault already.
It is the same with pets and small animals, swerving might end up with car in the ditch and on its roof. Or you have some front end damage and can walk away. You can't help anyone if you are the one injured.
Last clip is a masterclass in defensive cycling.
Take note @SilvioDiego
She nearly got hit by a car. Not very effective defensive cycling.
@@user10184 or she stopped a dangerous overtake with defensive positioning.
@@user10184 And if she had have been hit, who would have been at fault. Are you choosing to act like a moron today or you just can't help it?
@@drcl7429 That's irrelevant to the effectiveness of it being defensive. Are you choosing not to comprehend simple English?
You can brake much more and harder in a straight line than when turning, So i always, in an emergency situation, keep the car going straight for as long as possible and then steer to avoid. It's something that comes with experience, and in the situation with the Audi, many drivers panic and do what the cam driver did. Which made the situation a lot more dangerous and in another scenario on a faster road maybe deadly.
1:10 mr lazy getting out of his small car 😂😂
Irrespective of the signal caution prompts the question in my mind, “Why is the bin lorry in lane 2?” To turn right or because the driver has got in the outside lane by mistake and cannot keep pace with cars behind. I’d be wary and patient for a moment.
No excuse for the car driver but it was terrible driving by the bin lorry - at the end of the clip it's actually taking the junction on the left. That's why they were driving so slowly, so as not to miss their turning. They should never have been in the right hand lane in the first place. A major cause of undertaking is that so many idiots will tootle along in an overtaking lane when they're not overtaking.
Absolutely correct about people being broken. But all you have to do to antagonize people is drive safely and legally, especially if anywhere near the speed limit!!
and don't use the horn, unless emergency or give hand gestures!
Drive at the speed limit and I notice all the time that the majority of drivers appear oblivious to the limit and get annoyed that you are as though your in the wrong!
@@grahamtowler1761 we had this in London last week. My husband was following the 20mph limit in Ealing, and we were overtaken twice and hooted at by tailgaters 3 times during a 15 minute journey through residential streets. 20mph does feel slow, but we soon caught up with the overtakers at the next junction!
@@theyouofyesterday6254 that's how bizarre it is you nearly always catch them up at the next set of lights while they're waiting there oblivious to it,yes 20 mph is difficult to keep to but keep to the limits no problem
@@theyouofyesterday6254 If you consider 20 mph slow, wait until, like me, you get old, have to give up driving, and rely on a mobility scooter to get around. With a maximum speed of 8 mph, 20 mph feels recklessly fast!
Again, a useful and instructive video.
Reminds me of the line spoken by the briefing sergeant in Hill Street Blues.
"Hey! Let's be CAREFUL out there!"
It's a crime that insurance companies are writing cars off so swiftly and for suspect reasons. Mine was hit by another car (they admitted fault). The car had only minor body damage so was otherwise perfectly drivable. The insurers dictated where I could send the car to be fixed (a garage of their choice, not local to me). The garage didn't even see it, only wanted photos of the damage which they then had to send to the insurers. The Garage came back and said privately they could fix the car no problem but that the insurers had decided to write the car off. Insurer's truck took it away and the man said they did this work regularly and that the car would be fixed somewhere and either sold or put into auction. It was fairly new, very low mileage and apart from the massive inconvenience of waiting for answers, the money I got from the insureres won't be enough to replace the car with the same value, year, mileage etc that they so quickly decided to write off. Thank you RAC for your 'great value' fully comprehensive insurance.
The same happened to me. Someone pulled out of a side road and hit me as I was passing. It was all very low speed, the cars grazed against each other but it tore a gash in the bodywork just behind the rear door on my driver side. It was only a week after I'd had a new clutch put in (£500!) and the car was otherwise in brilliant condition.
7:11 overtaking and undertaking in a junction is almost never necessary, and is rarely safe.
I think what irked the Smart driver wasn't just the overtake it was that they had to the braking straight after which would have made the Smart driver have to brake really sharply themselves. I dont condone their reaction but I can understand them being annoyed at our cammer who I hope doesn't think they were in the right.
As for our friend in the red car, they saw the indicators but i think they felt that as it was their lane they wanted make a point of not letting the Corsa merge.
I don't know if the lens distortion makes the space look smaller, but to me it looked like the cammer took the smart's braking distance, and making them brake hard. That would piss me off, but never enough to get out of the car.
I don’t know what you guys are seeing but that gap the cammer took seemed okay to me, if I was the smart car I’m not sure I would’ve cared
@ I’d say it was if the road ahead was clear but it wasn’t and in fact traffic ahead was slowing for a red light so by jumping into that space then having to brake it was always going to cause the Smart driver to have to take evasive action. Using Ashley’s test of whether you’d do that to a Police car it’s pretty clear that it’s a poor bit of driving that showed a real lack of anticipation and consideration for other road users and a fixation on trying to get ahead of traffic.
@@awild10 I’ve rewatched the clip and I still think I would’ve done the same even if it was the police, I’m looking at the cammer’s speed and (in my opinion) they don’t seem to brake hard enough due to the traffic in front to cause the smart car behind that much trouble, I really think that if the smart car was to be inconvenienced the smart car would have to have been accelerating which they don’t appear to be doing in the clip, instead they seem quite relaxed.
I really believe that that driver only got fed up because someone got in front of him rather than because someone genuinely inconvenienced him.
Those little tiny car weigh hardly anything. They'll slow down plenty quick without even braking that hard. I think old mate was just pissed that someone was going fast more than "cutting in".
Unfortunately we'll never know unless he shows up here to explain. Maybe he noticed the cam car had a plastic cover underneath dragging or the petrol flap open and just wanted to let them know 😂
I have done similar to what the cyclist did. Not only taking primary position but moving further over to the right to allow left turning traffic behind her to have enough space to safely pass, as she may have had to wait at the junction for other vehicles from the left
I came across your channel and have subscribed and watched many of the videos. I am 77 years old and have been driving for 50 years. I believe you are never too old to learn and your videos are great reminder of where I may be too settled in my ways. In the last couple of days I have done two 66 miles round trip journeys at night in my SEAT Arona and have consciouslly applied some of your teachings about space, all round awareness and not making an issue of certain incidents. I recently purchased this car, an automatic, and found it easy to switch from a manual gearbox. I think it could be useful if you could provide a video or two on driving in an automatic (DSG) car for those of us who have made the switch. Thanks and keep up the good work.
7:11 Yeh I'm always pretty paranoid on multi-lane roundabouts, so would never have accelerated into the middle of that car sandwich.
I try not to, but then I am a big F1 fan, so know quite well what happens when things go 3 wide into a corner.
That last clip. I see drivers like that all the time on my commutes around the west country. They're often blazing through villages and towns whilst being bang on the speed and then make the surprised pikachu face when encountering peds/bikes.
Cyclists were always told, in the past, to leave enough room when passing parked cars just in case the car door opens suddenly. That’s why they take that position.
Cyclist moved right because that is where you are instructed to move to if you are turning right at a T-junction. Allows left turning vehicles to use the space. Nothing to do with primary.
Were they turning right? Don’t see a right arm signal, looks more like straight across to me
@@Kieran.Robertson How does a car take position at a junction like that? Stop acting the fool or someone might think you are one.
@@drcl7429 You call me a fool but the cyclist in the clip thought the same as me
@@Kieran.Robertson Cyclist approached the a T-junction on a bend in the same way a a car would. What are you on about?
@@drcl7429 The cyclist went straight across which is my point, you were speaking about turning right
With the 3rd clip, I live very near this roundabout by Coventry airport. The locals lovingly refer to it as "Suicide Island" because manoeuvres like this are an almost hourly occurrence. Every time I enter this roundabout, I can hear your voice saying, "Don't overtake on a roundabout" and so far, no issues. The issue with this junction in particular is that people assume that if they are taking the 3rd exit they need to be in the far right lane when entering, rather than actually reading the signs and markings indicating that this is not the case as the junction actually has 5 exits, so people cut across from lane 3 into lane 2 all the time. So unless you know the issues on this roundabout, it can be easy to not anticipate this happening.
On the subject of the difference in speed at roundabouts. There's a big multi lane roundabout near me that's very tricky to get on to when it's busy. Anyway I was going that way a couple of weeks ago and saw a big enough gap based on the speed that cars have been approaching before that. One driver approaching from the right decided to floor it then blare the horn at the point I would have been well out of their way if they had been going a similar speed to everyone else. I think speeding around roundabouts is one of the more dangerous things people can do, especially when most people don't tend to stay within the lines.
Interesting you use the term 'speeding'. I agree with your sentiment about speed approaching and on roundabouts. And in particular acceleration. A difficult roundabout can result in a lot more high acceleration entries to make a gap. Back to the speeding though, were they actually above the speed limit or just not at the speed you expected? It's quite easy to come into conflict with drivers that accelerate fast even though no one has technically broken a law or a HWC rule. Emerging situations and lane change situations etc.
@pocky1scot1 I don't think this particular guy was speeding in the legal sense. It was more like he saw me take the gap and got offended even though he had not entered the roundabout and I was half way through it.
Far too many people drive too fast onto and around roundabouts. They might not technically be speeding but if everyone went that little bit slower, left appropriate distances between vehicles and most importantly, appreciate that we all have to get onto the roundabout in the first place and that some entrances are more difficult than others to come on from, roundabouts would generally flow an awful lot better.
@@ScotlandwithFraser Absolutely. People often treat a roundabout as if it's just a regular straight bit of road!
There's so much to keep an eye on when negotiating a multi-lane roundabout. It's one thing if you're familiar with it, but every one has it's own lane structure and priorities, which you may not even be able to see properly depending on the conditions. The best thing is to err on the side of caution, keep your speed down and distance up. There's one near me where I frequently see people indicating to leave at the exit before my entry point, then realising they've made a mistake at the last moment and continuing on, so I'll always wait until I know they're definitely exiting.
6:00 I think a situation like this would catch out a lot of people (certainly me). The only thing I would hope I would do different is brake and not steer, and certainly not into oncoming traffic.
I tried to overtake a Smart car on the Motorway, I must have had a 25mph closing speed on him and I got nowhere near, he pissed all over me and the Porsche that tried the same. I later learnt that people put Hayabusa engines in them.
Having been driving on four continents for almost 50 years, I long ago lost count of how many countries that is, what I Do know is that unlike any other country I've driven in, so many UK drivers out there take being overtaken as a personal affront. Almost as though the speed they choose to drive at is the speed that everyone should drive at.. passing them is interpreted as an insult. Some will even accelerate in order to prevent someone passing them.. idiots.. If I'm faced with a potential head-on collision or simply sending the idiot into a hedge.. guess what.
I concur. The times I've had people react badly to being passed, or worse still, try to prevent it.
You could just brake and come in behind but apparently your ego doesn't allow for this.
@@user10184 There's always one of you out there isn't there... hiding your name.. pathetic. I can usually assess someone's driving characteristics within a quarter of a mile of spotting them.. it may be that the driver here was able to do the same and saw someone driving unfocused and hesitant..I don't know, wasn't there.. but if so then better to have them behind rather than in front.. nothing to do with ego.. just fully attentive to other road users.
@@jamesgraham6122 - The 'better behind me' excuse is rarely convincing and causing a collision in a desperate attempt to achieve it is manifestly absurd. I doubt you're the driving God you appear to think you are. (No point in putting a name here because it doesn't mean anything to anyone).
5:34 for me, it’s also concerning that the Audi didn’t anticipate their obscured view at the junction, and take a look through the parked cars to get a better view to the right. Adds to their impatient mindset.
If you look at _other_ UK dash cam channels on You Tube 50% of the collisions are when people overtake on roundabouts as in the third clip. Do NOT overtake on roundabouts, drive round them in a staggered fashion - no crashy bang-bang, easy!
A roundabout near me that is clearly marked with a straight-ahead marking but drivers constantly turn right. Luckily I try to follow your advice and leave space, it has saved me a couple of times.
The reason CarVertical probably only has 11 miles recorded for that Taxi is due to Northern Ireland having a separate MOT system. I'd guess the 11 miles was recorded when a new V5C was issued, but then likely as taxis must have an MOT every year in Northern Ireland, and MOTs are handled by the Department for Infrastructure (no private MOTs exist in NI), that data is held by the DfI. If you check MOT histories for any NI car on the government website, you'll see a Pass/Fail result, but no other details about the MOT is recorded.
This issue dates back to Northern Ireland having a separate DVLA, which isn't in sync with the DVA in Swansea. About a decade ago, all car registration/car tax was merged with the DVA, but the DVLA still handles driving tests, MOTs and license renewals.
The angry penguin waddle 😂😂
Last clip the cyclist does to be safe and to take away that option to pass when not safe. It's called closing the door
I wish more drivers knew about why cyclists ride where they do, rather than going with their first thought of "this cyclist is intentionally blocking me getting past" and then getting angry and impatient about it.
@glenn1534 there is a way to do it. I generally find if you check over your shoulder and communicate your intentions most drivers are fine then pull back in when it's sensible. The problems come when you don't check and don't communicate with drivers behind
@@wrightwoodwork True, I often find the issue is with those who have caught up once you've already pulled out. I even once got abuse from someone sat in traffic on the other side of the road because I was riding primary to avoid the door zone.
The weird thing with the Audi is that if you freeze frame at (say) 6:06 they aren't even turning into the lane where the taxi would be. It's as if they are pulling into the median across the oncoming lane as if they were perhaps going to immediately turn right back into the estate. Like even with all the acceleration in Christendom that Taxi is getting cut-up, which makes the Audis move even more incomprehensible.
More likely they were going to use the median to accelerate and get ahead of the private hire.
10:00 Wonder if your viewer would have attempted that if that was a car daring to slow for a junction?
Yes, your viewer shouldn't have over taken there. If the other car had just re-overtaken it would have been a bit phethetic. But wow to get out of his car and to escalate like that.
When you're a thumb with a beard and a special (illegal) number plate, gotta prove yourself. It's also why some police upload provisions require two minutes of video before and after the incident. You could find yourself under their critical glare.
Reminds me of a car I saw the other day - estate type Audi, driver delivering parcels. It was STUFFED FULL of parcels. Boot up to the roof line, the rear passenger seats full right to the roof, front passengers seat also full to the point where they were jammed up against the windscreen. Zero left visiblity.
I was not expecting someone that big to get out of a smart car 😂
In the first clip, I think one can reasonably argue that the road layout contributed to the accident. There is a disabled parking bay right next to the T junction (with the learner vehicle in). Any any vehicle parked here will block sight lines between motorists on different arms of the junction. This is one of the reasons for highway code rule 243 "DO NOT stop or park ... opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space", and why many junctions are marked with double yellow lines. In this case, there is an authorised parking space (so the learner car is not in the wrong), but the parking space is so badly designed that it can't help but be dangerous.
My solution is to turn the disabled parking bay into a green verge, creating a curb extension, and specify a new disabled parking bay somewhere else.
01:45 I agree, the Highway Code recommends merging in turn when vehicles are traveling slowly, such as when approaching a traffic incident or road works, however, it is not recommended to merge in turn at high speeds.
There were several other things that the driver would be taking in for the emerging Audi clip: the lights of the pedestrian crossing, the bus indicating on the right. The fact that they swerved instinctively to avoid as the blue Audi pulled out suggests to me that they either hadn't seen it or had no expectation that it was going to accelerate out of the junction. The Audi driver didn't even creep forward. Seeing it in slow motion afterwards is very different from being there in the moment. I think that one would be tricky to avoid and driving defensively all of the time is difficult to maintain.
There's also a learner car parked up that the driver is probably noting in case it pulls out.
I'd say it's quite a poor road layout, the parking bays are too close to the side road.
That I can understand, it is easy to be observing other things at the first point a hazard may be visible, which could even be things in rear...
2:03 What the cammer has done - and this is really important - is taken away the driver of the smart cars braking safety buffer. The smart car driver had left a nice gap and our cammer has rudely filled it. Whilst I would not repass nor get out that would certainly get at least a horn pip or light flash.
I don't drive a Smart(tm) and if I am in a bad mood, my response to a person taking away my forward braking distance is to just maintain the distance they seem to feel is a safe following distance for me. for me, it is a major irritant when someone does an MBIF and then doesn't get on down the road.
Have had people literally overtake into my braking space, and not even in situations where merging in turn would apply, and then immediately have to slow, and it is _really_ annoying - especially when the reason I've left such a gap (which often isn't as large as I'd have wanted it) is because I've experienced brakes locking and the accompanying sliding and loss of stability it comes with. If they got themselves collided with, you can bet they'd start whining about "you had plenty of time and space to stop"...
I was cackling when Eddie Hall got out of that tiny car XD
That blue audi going to have a massive bill with claim injuries aswell
04:22 Taxis undergo a more thorough safety check than a standard vehicle, called a PSV (Public Service Vehicle) inspection, instead of a normal MOT, this is because taxis are used to transport passengers, and the inspection ensures that the vehicle is roadworthy and safe for passengers and other drivers.
9:37 that is crap driving from the bin wagon too. Leaving it that late before moving over. A serious lack of forward planning from a "professional" driver.
Just noticed in the first clip, I do believe the driver of the Smart car should be reported to DVLA for displaying a number plate with incorrect spacing and what appears to be a mark made to look like an apostrophe
MR LAZY’S indeed
DVLA 👍🏻
@@SpunkletrumpetThank you, for some reason I thought DVLA issue the registration number and the DVSA make sure it complies
It is still too early on a Sunday 🤣
Hasn't he also committed a criminal offence too? Either attempting to obtain insurance by deception (Not disclosing the illegal plate) or driving without valid insurance.
MR 14ZYS looks exactly how you’d expect
i was surprised he put the effort into getting out the car and walking back after seeing the plate...
@@Hitpersonhe’s just getting in his 10 steps for the day
That was his exercise for the week !
Pretty sure the spacing is illegal as well.
@@Adam_Boots Ive checked the government site and he failed his MOT on 02/01/24 for incorrect Front and Rear Plates. I wouldnt be surprised if the plate he failed with is the one he is currently using, and just switched them up for the retest
9:40 Given the way the cammer is driving in the second clip you just know what they drive like all the time. These sorts of drivers just need to chill out and go with the flow more. These are the ones that cause accidents not the clueless lost idiots with no lane awareness.
The cammer had no lane awareness either. (-: Xe went from lane 1 to lane 2 when crossing the stop line. See my top-level comment for details.
@@JdeBP She stays within the side markings. It looks like lane 1 splits into two as it enters the junction.
Look at the mini-dashed line on the right when the video unpauses at 9:00
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l You have been confused as M. Neal has been. 09:00 is a different junction. It is the A45 eastbound to Rugby. The first of the two clips is the A45 _westbound_ to Birmingham. See my top-level comment for details.
Clip 1. Regardless of what happened, malicious damage to property is a crime and as such the Smart car driver should be charged. It is because so much petty crime is not punished that it has now become epidemic.
I wouldn't have begrudged the cammer if they took his door off after that.
@@pocky1scot1 I was thinking the same, just clipping it would make it impossible to shut.
To be fair, the cammer wasn't too bothered about damage to their car when they were cutting up the smart car driver.
If you're concerned about your vehicle getting damaged, then maybe don't throw it around like it's a battering ram.
I see that type of driver in the first clip quite regularly, no not the chap getting out and getting angry but the viewer who sent the clip in. Getting as far in fromt as they can and then cutting in under braking causing flow issues behind
Without knowing what transpired previously it is difficult to tell fully what is going on but the speed difference seems a little too high passing through a junction towards a merge point. It happens, and as annoying as it is just remember it makes no difference to the journey time…you all ended up waiting at the next set of lights anyway
Now let me see what Ashley says about the clip…
Does it matter if they accelerated past from standstill or they arrived later to a green light while the smart car had just gotten underway from stationary? I'm not sure the situation before really does matter. As you say neither is going to have a different in journey time.
I suppose the smart cammers reaction might be because cammer was right up his arse for the last 4 miles flashing his high beams to antagonise them. I don't think that's the case here though.
It looks to me the cammer already had plenty of speed and was going way faster than the Smart car, so weren't accelerating into the gap in front of the Smart car. I don't think the Smart even needed to brake for the cammer looking at the speed he was going. For the cammer to slot in behind the Smart car they would have needed to brake quite heavily, and that might have been the less safe option here, as we don't know what's behind or alongside them.
Obviously without seeing the build-up to all these we can only make assumptions about what led up to it.
07:33 he needs to read rule 249 of the Highway Code - all vehicles MUST display parking lights when parked on a road or a lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph.
Mind you, do people even know what "parking lights" are? Especially for people who never park on "fast roads", I'd be surprised if you can find someone who does know what they are and how to put them on (I do know how to do them for a few cars I've controlled, though have never needed to put them on for parking). Certainly I know that many motorcycles/motorscooters don't even have them (nor do many have a way of leaving the hazard lights when "keyed out", if they even have hazard lights to begin with!)
It also kind of explains a theory I have about some "lay bys" and side roads from faster roads that have a lower (20/30) speed limit, despite it being virtually impossible to even manage the reduced speed - in theory, it would be a waste of time going out to set the lower limit, but it does let anyone parked there to not need parking lights to be left on...
I know what they are and I know how to put them on.
The bloke with Smart car was annoyed because his Mrs had nicked his Harley and he was stuck with her car!
His illegal number plate suggests otherwise.
What we're missing in the clip of the Audi emerging is a rear view from the cammer's car. If they had someone close behind that could, but may not, explain why the [misjudged] swerve rather than an emergency stop.
6:05 The only thing you didn't address here is the taxi having the best view out of all three vehicles and didn't at least slow when he saw the blue car emerge into an inevitable crash.
Let's face it, the viewer would have crashed into the parked car if the taxi hadn't ridden to the rescue. Needs remedial lessons.
07:20 that’s why it’s so important to always ensure you have a pocket of space next to you.
10:07. The hatched area isn’t bordered by a solid white line. It’s broken. Therefore you can enter. Check again
It is a drain cover that hasn’t been repainted, check again
It’s literally broken on the other side too.
Also if it hasn’t being repainted. Then thats down to the fault of the council. As it’s not painted. It’s classed as broken
The “other side” is a road edge marking and the curved edge (which is the one I believe you are referring to) is on a different side to the hatchings.
Different sides can have different boundaries and is quite common on some roads to have broken one side and solid the other for additional safety measures. The fact remains, and has been proven in case law, that an unpainted line after a repair *still applies* and in this case, the bound is solid
@@PS-fl7et you are correct that in law, a temporary disturbance in a solid white line does not constitute it to be a broken white line. It’s all dependent on context. If you had a long stretch of road with a solid white line and a couple of breaks from pot holes. It would be unreasonable to think that that one particular section is broken. However, the area in this video is very small and has a break in it where the manhole is, round about halfway down the line, so it looks like it’s meant to be there. On the approach you can also see a broken line on the other side. Meaning you can both enter the hatches and leave the hatches. If there is clear ambiguity on something. It will go in the favour of the motorist.
@@ReeceJCoxy: "Also if it hasn’t being repainted. Then thats down to the fault of the council." Agreed, it's ambiguous enough that I see it as broken, and if it's meant to be solid, then it should have been repainted, otherwise you can't blame someone for misinterpreting it. (not that the cammer should have tried to overtake where they did, rather than holding back for a while)
I've said it before on this channel: too many drivers seem to see junctions, particularly roundabouts, as an opportunity to overtake. Sometimes it's really hard to avoid conflict at large roundabouts given both this mindset, and the fact that many drivers don't seem to plan ahead and end up in the wrong lane as a result.
The blue Audi pulling out…
Looks like the viewers speed was fairly low, 30?
Emergency stop in a modern car at those speeds is highly effective…would prob have been enough.
It's Ronnie Pickering!
Just so you know mate London Private Hire Vehicles have to have 2 MOTs a year and a TFL inspection once a year, obviously different rules apply in different parts of the country. Great Video as always 👍
I had a similar situation last month to the one where the Corsa hits the cam car on the roundabout, where a driver in lane 1 tried to continue around a 3-lane roundabout and hit me as I was trying to merge onto a 2-lane slip road. They were 100% in the wrong, but I had been in their blind spot and was passing them when they hit me, so I wasn't easily visible. I'm now much more cautious about this happening in the future.
Smart car guy had his ego hurt by the other driver getting into position and not dawdling.
In that last clip you can even see the road marking telling riders to use primary position. Absolute clown. I honestly think there are people that erroneously think that riders are just obstacles to go around rather than road users that need to be safely overtaken. They are outraged that someone on a bike is using the road properly and put her in danger, and then sent you a video of it? Baffling.
3:16 I think they call that a cannon shot in billiards! Drive safely, everyone! :)
Clip 1 . I know a few people who if found in that situation would have taken the smart door off as they carried on their merry way . Just to see Mr Lazy having to work to pick it up 🤣
I believe the Audi definitely could've seen the car coming in that clip, they just couldn't be bothered to look. I say this as someone who emerges from my road every day with a thin gap to look down past 5/6 parked cars at times for oncoming traffic, and patience is often deployed. What is scary for me, is that i see many others do what the Audi did, and its something like a miracle we havent had a bad accident yet.
In situations like this it's a good idea to wind the windows down so you can hear what's coming if you can't see what's coming.
@davem9204 100%
The blue Audi emerging- that would have been the perfect time for an audible warning of approach, given as soon as it could be spotted.
I drive down that stretch in the first clip regularly to that retail park, that happens more frequently than it should (not actually all that frequently, but more than once is more frequently than it should in my eyes)
5:03 And this is why you are not supposed to park directly next to an intersection. And why competent RCAs don't put parking spots right next to intersections.
6:39: "Which car is gonna hit your viewer?" Ah, your viewer is about to overtake someone and cause an accident, right?
6:49: BOOM.
Complete disregard for other people to swerve like that. A hard break and the the damage would only been to two cars. Like you said it could have been a bike or motorbike oncoming.
5:36 I doubt many would even notice the blue Audi. I'd be double checking the pedestrian crossing and looking for passenger getting off the bus and trying to cross behind it.
Clip 3.Possible reason: fixated on the cyclist not the road ahead.
The roundabout junction clip - not the viewer's fault, though I was always taught to not overtake (or pass) another vehicle on a roundabout.
And this ties in with one of Ashley's previous videos about leaving sufficient space to your right and left.
Rule of thumb - cars with illegally spaced private numberplates normally contain arseholes. The viewer did very well to avoid the door of that Smart car, I think in my panic to get away from being assaulted I'd have driven straight through it.
10:08 cyclist looks behind them turning their head 90 degrees or so to the left and then they look left, they have no idea where the cammer is simply because they haven’t been seen
Well done if you can call it that to them for leaving the third attempt of the overtake until after the white fiesta, Postman Pat’s van and the junction
That first clip was actually some really solid driving; chose to overtake and then merge instead of slowing down, then slowed down well ahead of time for the traffic lights. That reaction from the Smart driver was insane. Yes the pass was late, but with the traffic lights there and still well within the area where you are allowed to merge that wasn't really an issue
21st November post. Had similar yesterday but didn’t pull out because I couldn’t see past the flat bed on pavement with sides up blocking site line at junction. When I asked not nicely to move he looked around the front and said it was ok. Also car that undertook on roundabout should have stayed behind.
Clear road markings certainly help as well as not undertaking especially where there's a choice of lanes that someone may want to change into.
What is it with not overtaking cyclists at junctions that is difficult for drivers? If I'm on a bike, I'm already concerned with crossing traffic and oncoming traffic at junctions, I don't need to also be concerned about traffic I can't see from behind. I'm sorry I stopped you getting to the next red light a few seconds earlier I guess.
Does my nut in, get ahead of me at the last second then hold me up because they have to spend a lot longer checking for traffic, when there's every chance I'm not even going the same way as them, rendering the whole exercise pointless
I live in an area with few multi lane roundabouts, when i go somewhere with lots od of them it is tricky to place yourself in the correct lane especially if its an unfamiliar route. That roundabout driver seemed confident in what they were doing however thats the easy part. The difficult part is knowing who might not be confident or in the wrong lane, unless you are telepathic you cant truly know so give space if you can and as ashley says dont overtake.
They are a pain as they are not always set out the same and add to that someone trying to get the correct turn off they need who has never used it makes them the more unpleasant places to drive. They did a major upgrade of one near me I hated as I only used it once a year but had poor layout, the marking were almost none existent and the locals drove like idiots on it racing around. Now they added extra lanes into it and marked it properly it works nicely which has also somehow slowed the pace on it.
Both of your comments apply. Tollbar End was upgraded a few years ago _and_ the Corsa driver made a (commonly made) mistake and got into the wrong lane. But so did the cammer. See my top-level comment for the full details. Part of the problem is that the A45 westbound approach is mis-marked and is a 3-lane approach to a 4-lane roundabout.
Cyclists and motorcycle drivers will take a wide berth around parked cars to avoid “the door zone”, as many people open their doors without looking, which can be fatal if you don’t have crumple zones.
Not just doors, but, for the better riders, for the sake of people (and even moreso, children) that may run out without checking that nothing is coming.
Large people in small cars ,he had trouble getting out to knock on your viewers window.
And the last but 1 clip .
With the roundabout.
Your viewers shocking near undertake of that bin lorry didn't they relise lorrys have big blind spots.
Im sure theres normally signs on thease wagons to that effect,yes for cyclists but it still applies to vehicles under taking.
Roundabouts with multiple lanes can be a bit confusing for road users but always give others a chance to correct there mistakes,most people don't like going around a roundabout again to there exit .so they do try to correct it by pushing in ,but i just allow them the space.
Fantastic video as usual Ashley full of invaluable advice for all to take on board.
The other reason for moving out into the middle of the lane in that last clip is because of those cars on the left. Nobody wants to encounter a door suddenly opening when cycling along. I suppose that driver doesn't cycle or they would surely know this.
3:18 the owner of WFZ9343 had a lucky escape
Bit harsh at 6:08 to say "prioritize braking". Though in hindsight that would be ideal. He had a split second and when he started steering he probably had his foot on the wrong pedal (yes, ideally it should be hovering over the brake) and he had probably not estimated the emerging car's speed yet (so intuited a small steer might have avoided the collision). Yes, it's not perfect driving, but he is not a driving instructor and maybe has not got 10+ years' experience of other people's driving.
But it IS a good lesson to be ready to brake when you don't have clear vision around any kind of corner. Also, his speed might not be illegal, but any kind of hazard suggests driving at the speed limit is not necessarily right. Do you drive at 29mph when passing an unloading bus just because it is within the speed limit?
That road is the A2 Shore Road in North Belfast. It's far too wide for a 30mph road, which results in many people treating it more like a dual carriageway at times.
Even that section has 2 lanes going northbound (one is a bus lane), one lane southbound, on street parking both sides, and there's a central hatched area that's wide enough to be a car lane.
Given I've probably driven that road countless times, the thing that I would be anticipating more is the Puffin Crossing before the Leisure Centre on the right of the video. Given there's pedestrians near it, it can change at any second if it's been activated. That would probably be my first thought when going past there. I think also it's just after the exits to a really large Lidl and ASDA, so if you manage to negotiate your way out of that busy section, you'll probably be thinking there's fewer hazards up ahead.
I think steering instead of braking was pretty much the only issue with the 2nd driver. It was a horribly executed swerve, if you don't know how to avoid obstacles then you should stick to braking. If was not a "small steer"; they sent themselves into the opposite lane even before Audi touched their car. They did not countersteer to avoid leaving their space/lane. They were probably looking at the emerging car instead of where they were going. There was nothing good about it. Reactions like this are what's deadly at these speeds in a city environment. It would have been so much better to just brake and hit the other car without putting everyone around at risk.
You don't need hindsight to know that 99% of road incidents will have the best outcome if you just brake really hard. It should be every driver's instinct.
@@sekainomado Agree it was an oversteer heading towards the oncoming traffic was poor instinct. Truth is we are not trained to deal with this kind of thing as learner drivers., so some people will just not have the right instincts. If he'd been going even a little slower (how much time would that cost?) he could easily have stopped by braking, but at his actual speed it would depend on his brakes and his reaction time. So I'd argue that (for him at least) speed was a factor.
You need to reanalyse two of those clips, M. Neal, because you've based your analysis upon an error.
06:30 is the Tollbar End roundabout approached _westwards_ from the A45, Coventry airport signed and (in daylight) itself visible to the left, and 08:33 is the Tollbar End roundabout approached _eastwards_ from the A45, Aldi in the airport _retail park_ visible to the left. _Two different approaches_ to that roundabout. I can attest from having driven there that the road markings on the roundabout have definitely _not_ seen any improvement since 2021. The westwards A45 approach in the first clip was mis-marked then, and remains mis-marked to this day. (Further back east on that approach the B4110 is confusingly _marked alternately_ in lanes 3 (as B4110 + M69 Leicester) and 2 (as A45 Birmingham + B4110), contradicting both the dashed lane markings and the green road signs.)
The cammer approached the roundabout in lane 1 (A45 Birmingham + Airport), then _erroneously drifted over_ to lane 2 (A45 Birmingham + B4110) when coming over the stop line, crossing the dashed lines at 06:42. The cammer should have been behind the silver saloon in lane 1 at 06:45 instead of to the right of it. The Corsa was in lane 2 (A45 Birmingham + B4110) on the approach, and made the same mistake of going into lane 3 (B4110 + A46 Leicester) over the stop line, and was apparently trying to correct this and come back to lane 2 just after the _next_ stop line. Contrary to your analysis, lane 2 there _does_ exit to the A45 Birmingham and the Corsa could reasonably expect to exit that way having corrected its mistake and got back into lane 2.
You can clearly see not any _improvement_ but the _difference_ in the road markings at 09:04. They are the _eastbound_ markings for A45 _Rugby_ not the _westbound_ markings for A45 _Birmingham_ as in the first clip.
I agree although not quite with your analysis of the driving. Lanes 1 and 2 require a sharp deviation to the left (lane 1 is often empty after the airport exit in my experience) It appears Corsa drifted to lane 3 and viewer took advantage of the space opening up in lane 2 and changed lane to make progress.
I'm surprised by her surprise that the Corsa returned to lane 2. Ashley's comment re. being staggered is still relevant though. The second clip suggests viewer has a habit of making progress on the inside of another vehicle that may move across her path.
"Oh no a hazard!"
Better steer (into oncoming traffic) rather than brake.
Would love to know how the insurance handles this sort of incident; as its hard to argue, from the Taxi's point of view that had the viewer acted predictably (and chose instead to brake and hit/miss the Audi as a result) the taxi would be completely damage free.
My suspicion is that many insurers would view this as two separate accidents, with a contributing factor, but would still attribute fault to the viewer for the second collision (damned by his own dashcam).
The viewers choice to evade the at fault Audi, caused the second collision.
I'd consider this slightly different to the idea of say rear-ending parked/queuing traffic causing consecutive collisions (where the argument is going to find the source of origin at fault) as there is essentially nothing the queuing traffic could have done differently.
The viewer however, as iterated, should have been prepared to stop.
They absolutely were the cause of that secondary collision with the taxi by choosing to think they were skilled enough to just steer around the hazard, rather than come to a stop altogether.
Need to practice their emergency braking.
Clip 1: I’m thinking potential cardiac arrest if the aggrieved driver is that worked up. That said, nice to have video evidence of assault with ABH while waiting for the ambulance.
If you find yourself in the wrong lane on a roundabout, just take a small diversion and find a safe place to turn. What's it going to add to your journey, 5-20 minutes?
Audi mindset: Floor it into a gap that’s not there👍🏿