The first two mock trades are realistic (and very interesting). I would not trade any of our younger players until we know what we have got, but any player can be traded. Gretzky was traded!...As for Owen Beck, he is intelligent and seems very mature to me. He's a problem solver & can be an effective NHL player from next year.
First off---- Owen Beck. Disagree highly with Dumont. Given the opportunity Beck has the "intelligence" and hockey IQ to be a very good player sooner then that. He was the 11th Center taken in the 2022 draft behind Lambert. He has played some EXCELLENT developmental hockey in the last 2 years... WJC leader, Memorial Cup MVP, Goal Scoring Two way center that plays a 200 foot game and is second to none on Face Off Percentage He comes into the pro game whether it be AHL or NHL with a tighter resume then some MTL recent rookies. If given the "gold plated opportunity" that others got Owen Beck will be a big part of the Habs when they are a Playoff team.
Thanks for your comment but like Joe Veleno from Detroit he was in AHL in few years to develop to get better. Beck should do the same to become better. Nothing wrong to be there one or two years. Look what happening to Mailloux. You told us for two years Seattle did a great job about Wright for his development. I think should be the same for Beck.
@@HockeyNationLiveShow Yes Coach --- I agree with long term Development. It is MY RELIGION.... I think Beck is better then Wright and I think he should have gone way earlier in the draft. Now I have no trouble Starting him in Laval... Beck like Slafkovsky may be better in the NHL then AHL.... If he is not an immediate star in AHL that should not take the shine off him. BIG big believe in Beck---- I like INTELLIGENCE---- he has Suzuki like personal intelligence. Smart people find a way to succeed and they elevate in big games.... SAGINAW were beat in OHL playoffs.... in first Memorial Cup game... Then Beck WON the game for them in the FINALS.... 2 Goals 1 assist.... He has something even slafkovsky does not have ---- a BIG WINNING resume
I heard or read somewhere that MSL had wanted Beck on the team and not sent back to the OHL. Sounds like MSL's expectations are not 4-5 years. Acquiring N. Roy wouldn't be a bad idea if they could make room for him. No trade players: Roy, Beck, Mailloux, Reinbacher, Xhekaj, Caufield, Suzuki, Slafkovsky. Ride out Dach's contract and see how it goes. I'm pretty open other than that. Trading someone like Guhle or Matheson (plus picks and/or a prospect) would require a top notch return. I think Struble has significant value.
High Coach It won't take Beck that long He is succeeding in every level And we have a great training and Coaching If we draft 2 big forward Coach it took Colorado and Edmonton almost 10yrs to Get to cup.
Remember we have also next year Calgary 1st rounder, as long it not Number 1, we have another possibility at a great draft pic, being Calgary does not have a strong year.
as far as Trades..... Teams are built through the draft . Now we traded Romanov successfully . I would part with Harris Baron but I really want to keep Xhekaj Guhle and Maiiloux..... Would I trade Roy.... My brain is twisted here cause I need to see the return YUK--- I want to keep ALL MY TOYS---- yes coach I hear you from Thailand---- gotta give something to get something....
I get you, I don't want to keep everything, but you have to let them develop a little at least before trading, its like trading unopened packs of hockey cards, you are basically just trading speculation.
I dont trade none of them Roy , Xhekaj , Guhle , Hutson ....Mailloux maybe i would if the offer is juicy . Let's wait 1 more year to evaluate prospect , i want to see more from Roy before we decide to trade him or not , same for the rest of the young talents.
I prefer Mailloux and Barron and Reinbacher over Desharnais. Did you watch him in the playoffs. Now he is healthy scratch. No thanks... We need skills and talent
@@HockeyNationLiveShow Dans mon optique c'est le côté robustesse de Desharnais qui serait positif, c'est un manque flagrant chez le CH.J'ai rien contre les habilités naturelles mais ça prend aussi de la toughness, tu ne peu pas avoir juste des joueurs semblables.Reinbacher n'est pas prét encore, Baron, Mailloux ça reste à voir.
@@HockeyNationLiveShow Kovacevik n'est pas robuste il va partir,il est gros mais ça s'arréte la, tu demanderas au très petit joueurs du Canadien s'il ne prendrais pas un Desharnais pour les matchs sur la route, Arber je l'aime mais ses épaules sont très douteuses, Desharnais tu vas le revoir sur la patinoire lorsque les oilers vont perdrent leur première rencontres, j'aime bien notre discussion, ce serait passionnant si ça pouvait être devant une bonne bière, ah ah,,
first i would pick catton or iginla or lindstrom for our first pick in that order and at 26 nikita artamonov or michael hage or sacha boisvert or terik parascak in that order then at 57 adam kleber for the defence pick . ya or na?
On the weekend, I had to read through posts flirting with the idea of trading Owen Beck or Arber Xhekaj. Really? This team is going through a full rebuild. The main attributes of that rebuild are commitment, patience and keeping your eye on the ultimate prize. Bob Gainey and Marc Bergevin began their tenures with that in mind but quickly succumbed to the notion that once you make the playoffs anything can happen. Apply a band aid here and there. Go for the short term quick fix. A team's building blocks come in all shapes and forms. Not all of them will be star players. However, molding a solid supporting cast is just as important as developing young studs like Suzuki and Slafkovsky. Posters love the idea that the Hab management team is committed to the long term development of their young prospects. Let's hope that notion holds true as the team moves forward.
People forget Beck in his first Training Camp with Slafkovsky was miles ahead of Slafkovsky. Arguably Beck was one of the top 10n Centers in his draft year and since his draft he has played a ton of GREAT hockey
@@HockeyNationLiveShow here is where I question… with Slafkovsky… he is better in NHL with MSL AND ADAM NICOLAS. But everyone else is better in Laval It is without question that Slafkovsky was horrible year one and we are lucky he did not have a long term injury My view is they ALL would be well served by a year in Laval
The whole point of a rebuild is to develop internally, get a bunch of prospects through draft and let them grow through the system, I don't think trading everything now is a great idea, they are not close enough to be competitive. (Making the playoffs and losing in the first round is not it) It's too early to say anything about Hutson, Roy, Mailloux or any of the other prospects. I agree 100% on clearing up some room on the cap, but it's not crucial, the books are lining up pretty nice with big numbers coming off the board in the next few seasons. The Canadiens need to win more of those close games this season, those 1 goal games, show more grit. I would not panic, stop thinking trading everything, firing everyone will solve anything, that mentality is what got us here...
I want to comment on my comment, and I want to elaborate on what I was trying to say, is that championships are won with solid defense and great goaltending, depth at both of those positions will make a winning team a dynasty. Goal scoring is super important, but it takes more than that to make a great team, it takes depth, and the only way you get depth is by drafting and developing players. Blockbuster trades only happen if you have a developed roaster, guys who want to win, want to join, and players you can move. Les Canadiens ne remporteront pas la coupe l'an prochain...
All players take 4-5 years to get to full 😅 potential O.B makes team this year Want to get better but your Mock has us trading Bigger players for small players St- Louis wont be coaching in 2026
For me, Matheson for Necas is a no-brainer. Hear me out. Matheson is a great leader, but Montreal’s young core, have leadership. Suzuki is not 21, he’s the captain and he’s 25/26 this year. Depth on Left D, trade Matheson high, and take a chance on a top 9 player with speed, size and skill. Trade from position of strength.
Bruh we're already aware of this trade rumor. And i can tell you this much this is not a good offer compared to what other team can offer him. Nobody wants a aging 30yr defender. He will start declining soon. So its a big risk.
Trade some draft picks or young prospects or a combination with bad contract Gallagher get the money off the books Armenia and Anderson are keepers they are big body playoff ready put Slav Kirby dach and Anderson together Armia Roy and Newhook Add to play with Caulfield and Suzuki then generate a big fast gritty hard to play against fourth line
Why keep Anderson? He does nothing under MSL. He won’t get better next season. Habs are not a playoffs team before 2026… Remove Anderson. Newhook is not a top first line player. I disagree the way you want the Habs to become. Thanks for your input anyway.
@@HockeyNationLiveShow Anderson is a type of player you need in the playoffs but if Montreal does not change the coaching staff or bring somebody into help they have no chance
@@KeithGreene-wu7bu Coach is not the problem it’s their skills talent they don t have yet. Bowman won’t change anything behind the bench. How can you win with Montembeault Primeau in the net…
@@HockeyNationLiveShow Coaching is the problem. Our defense can't get the puck out of their own end when under pressure. In the playoffs, the defense is constantly under pressure. We've had 2 years of MSL's dislike for systems. The 4 teams that made it to the Conference final this year ALL had systems on defense, and offence. We need to get rid of MSL and get an EXPERIENCED coach, who can implement winning systems of playing at both ends of the ice!
@@danmartel2 listen , what’s the use of a tough guy with 2 injured shoulders, at his age , it not gonna get better , if you have him for show , well that’s ok I guess . He’s not helping the team if every time he gets in a fight , his shoulder gets broken injured. I have shoulder problems, I have hard enough time to wipe my ass sometimes with the pain in my shoulder, the range of motion is affected big time , if you think Arber has a long career in the NHL as a tough guy, your sadly mistaken. Other than fighting, even his clapper with be affected with shoulder injuries. What else does he provide. We also have Florian . Why is Mailloux is the one , always on the trade block . So fed up with this fan base .
@@ellenkeefe76 I don’t want to give up Logan M. I think he is going to be great. Arber adds a big tough defenceman who hits. Clears the front etc. only untouchables should be Ghule Arber Logan and Hutson.
I agree that Anderson needs to go, because with MSL it never really worked. I’d trade Mailloux if I have to pick a D to move. I don’t like him in his own end..
Kaliyev you must be joking especially after what your pal Devallano told you about Kaviyev’s attitude issues and poor work ethic? Wonder why he’s available ? Stay far far away !
He is available like Necas no TOI. That’s why Necas and Kayliev want to leave. Turcotte sticks in the ladder. If you can trade contract Anderson no hesitation to do it .
He is available like Necas no TOI. That’s why Necas and Kayliev want to leave. Turcotte sticks in the ladder. If you can trade contract Anderson no hesitation to do it .
@@HockeyNationLiveShow The bad attitude and lousy work ethic have zero to do with TOI as it was obvious before he got drafted per Devallano! Devallano laughed at how bad this guy was !
The coaching of The haves will come into question more so this year the style he wants to play is not playoff hockey will never win if he does not change or get help the Habs are going nowhere
Very good ideas coach
Thank you 🙏
Keep it going coach, go habs go
Thank you 🙏
Wow..a high octane Daily…loved it.
Thanks Roger
Thanks Roger
The first two mock trades are realistic (and very interesting). I would not trade any of our younger players until we know what we have got, but any player can be traded. Gretzky was traded!...As for Owen Beck, he is intelligent and seems very mature to me. He's a problem solver & can be an effective NHL player from next year.
Well said... I think wait one more year will be more benefit
First off---- Owen Beck. Disagree highly with Dumont. Given the opportunity Beck has the "intelligence" and hockey IQ to be a very good player sooner then that. He was the 11th Center taken in the 2022 draft behind Lambert. He has played some EXCELLENT developmental hockey in the last 2 years... WJC leader, Memorial Cup MVP, Goal Scoring Two way center that plays a 200 foot game and is second to none on Face Off Percentage
He comes into the pro game whether it be AHL or NHL with a tighter resume then some MTL recent rookies.
If given the "gold plated opportunity" that others got Owen Beck will be a big part of the Habs when they are a Playoff team.
Thanks for your comment but like Joe Veleno from Detroit he was in AHL in few years to develop to get better. Beck should do the same to become better. Nothing wrong to be there one or two years. Look what happening to Mailloux. You told us for two years Seattle did a great job about Wright for his development. I think should be the same for Beck.
@@HockeyNationLiveShow Yes Coach --- I agree with long term Development. It is MY RELIGION.... I think Beck is better then Wright and I think he should have gone way earlier in the draft. Now I have no trouble Starting him in Laval... Beck like Slafkovsky may be better in the NHL then AHL.... If he is not an immediate star in AHL that should not take the shine off him.
BIG big believe in Beck---- I like INTELLIGENCE---- he has Suzuki like personal intelligence. Smart people find a way to succeed and they elevate in big games.... SAGINAW were beat in OHL playoffs.... in first Memorial Cup game... Then Beck WON the game for them in the FINALS.... 2 Goals 1 assist.... He has something even slafkovsky does not have ---- a BIG WINNING resume
I heard or read somewhere that MSL had wanted Beck on the team and not sent back to the OHL. Sounds like MSL's expectations are not 4-5 years.
Acquiring N. Roy wouldn't be a bad idea if they could make room for him.
No trade players: Roy, Beck, Mailloux, Reinbacher, Xhekaj, Caufield, Suzuki, Slafkovsky. Ride out Dach's contract and see how it goes.
I'm pretty open other than that.
Trading someone like Guhle or Matheson (plus picks and/or a prospect) would require a top notch return. I think Struble has significant value.
Great comment and thanks for sharing
High Coach
It won't take Beck that long
He is succeeding in every level
And we have a great training and
Coaching
If we draft 2 big forward
Coach it took Colorado and Edmonton almost 10yrs to
Get to cup.
Remember we have also next year Calgary 1st rounder, as long it not
Number 1, we have another possibility at a great draft pic, being
Calgary does not have a strong year.
Well said Russell you are right
@@HockeyNationLiveShow ❤️
as far as Trades..... Teams are built through the draft . Now we traded Romanov successfully . I would part with Harris Baron but I really want to keep Xhekaj Guhle and Maiiloux..... Would I trade Roy.... My brain is twisted here cause I need to see the return
YUK--- I want to keep ALL MY TOYS---- yes coach I hear you from Thailand---- gotta give something to get something....
I get you, I don't want to keep everything, but you have to let them develop a little at least before trading, its like trading unopened packs of hockey cards, you are basically just trading speculation.
@@usdeac agree totally let’s see what we have
The only player I won't trade is arber xhekai I feel Montreal could have enough scoring it's another season
I dont trade none of them Roy , Xhekaj , Guhle , Hutson ....Mailloux maybe i would if the offer is juicy . Let's wait 1 more year to evaluate prospect , i want to see more from Roy before we decide to trade him or not , same for the rest of the young talents.
Francois you have a great point about wait one more year to evaluate all of them
Savard and meshar for perfetti or mercer
Thanks for your comment but it's not good enough. You need to switch Mesar for Joshua Roy
Qu'ils échangent Harris a qui le veut, et aillent chercher Vincent Desharnais pour pas trop cher, il ferait une bonne paire avec Xhekaj.
I prefer Mailloux and Barron and Reinbacher over Desharnais. Did you watch him in the playoffs. Now he is healthy scratch. No thanks... We need skills and talent
@@HockeyNationLiveShow Dans mon optique c'est le côté robustesse de Desharnais qui serait positif, c'est un manque flagrant chez le CH.J'ai rien contre les habilités naturelles mais ça prend aussi de la toughness, tu ne peu pas avoir juste des joueurs semblables.Reinbacher n'est pas prét encore, Baron, Mailloux ça reste à voir.
@@Brompt-s1g you have Xhekaj for toughness. Do you prefer Desharnais or Kovacevic? I can tell you Oilers will want Kovacevic over Desharnais
@@HockeyNationLiveShow Kovacevik n'est pas robuste il va partir,il est gros mais ça s'arréte la, tu demanderas au très petit joueurs du Canadien s'il ne prendrais pas un Desharnais pour les matchs sur la route, Arber je l'aime mais ses épaules sont très douteuses, Desharnais tu vas le revoir sur la patinoire lorsque les oilers vont perdrent leur première rencontres, j'aime bien notre discussion, ce serait passionnant si ça pouvait être devant une bonne bière, ah ah,,
first i would pick catton or iginla or lindstrom for our first pick in that order and at 26 nikita artamonov or michael hage or sacha boisvert or terik parascak in that order then at 57 adam kleber for the defence pick . ya or na?
Nailed it… also take 26 with Harris get 20-22 overall pick
On the weekend, I had to read through posts flirting with the idea of trading Owen Beck or Arber Xhekaj. Really?
This team is going through a full rebuild. The main attributes of that rebuild are commitment, patience and keeping your eye on the ultimate prize. Bob Gainey and Marc Bergevin began their tenures with that in mind but quickly succumbed to the notion that once you make the playoffs anything can happen. Apply a band aid here and there. Go for the short term quick fix.
A team's building blocks come in all shapes and forms. Not all of them will be star players. However, molding a solid supporting cast is just as important as developing young studs like Suzuki and Slafkovsky. Posters love the idea that the Hab management team is committed to the long term development of their young prospects. Let's hope that notion holds true as the team moves forward.
Beck why 4 to 5 years Coach explain deeper
People forget Beck in his first Training Camp with Slafkovsky was miles ahead of Slafkovsky. Arguably Beck was one of the top 10n Centers in his draft year and since his draft he has played a ton of GREAT hockey
First it was not me said it I report it secondly a Beck AHL will benefit like Mailloux or Roy. No rush the kid. Should be ready 2025 or 2026
@@HockeyNationLiveShow here is where I question… with Slafkovsky… he is better in NHL with MSL AND ADAM NICOLAS. But everyone else is better in Laval
It is without question that Slafkovsky was horrible year one and we are lucky he did not have a long term injury
My view is they ALL would be well served by a year in Laval
Anderson and Harris for Kaliyev and Turcotte? Come on they would never do that.
The whole point of a rebuild is to develop internally, get a bunch of prospects through draft and let them grow through the system, I don't think trading everything now is a great idea, they are not close enough to be competitive. (Making the playoffs and losing in the first round is not it) It's too early to say anything about Hutson, Roy, Mailloux or any of the other prospects.
I agree 100% on clearing up some room on the cap, but it's not crucial, the books are lining up pretty nice with big numbers coming off the board in the next few seasons.
The Canadiens need to win more of those close games this season, those 1 goal games, show more grit. I would not panic, stop thinking trading everything, firing everyone will solve anything, that mentality is what got us here...
I want to comment on my comment, and I want to elaborate on what I was trying to say, is that championships are won with solid defense and great goaltending, depth at both of those positions will make a winning team a dynasty. Goal scoring is super important, but it takes more than that to make a great team, it takes depth, and the only way you get depth is by drafting and developing players.
Blockbuster trades only happen if you have a developed roaster, guys who want to win, want to join, and players you can move. Les Canadiens ne remporteront pas la coupe l'an prochain...
Logan Mailloux & Lane Hutson should be untouchable.
Thanks for your comment
All players take 4-5 years to get to full 😅 potential
O.B makes team this year
Want to get better but your Mock has us trading Bigger players for small players
St- Louis wont be coaching in 2026
I hope you will there in October to watch Beck in AHL. No room we have 5 centers already in Montreal
For me, Matheson for Necas is a no-brainer. Hear me out. Matheson is a great leader, but Montreal’s young core, have leadership. Suzuki is not 21, he’s the captain and he’s 25/26 this year. Depth on Left D, trade Matheson high, and take a chance on a top 9 player with speed, size and skill. Trade from position of strength.
Bruh we're already aware of this trade rumor. And i can tell you this much this is not a good offer compared to what other team can offer him. Nobody wants a aging 30yr defender. He will start declining soon. So its a big risk.
Carolina would never take Matheson for Necas
Trade some draft picks or young prospects or a combination with bad contract Gallagher get the money off the books Armenia and Anderson are keepers they are big body playoff ready put Slav Kirby dach and Anderson together Armia Roy and Newhook Add to play with Caulfield and Suzuki then generate a big fast gritty hard to play against fourth line
Why keep Anderson? He does nothing under MSL. He won’t get better next season. Habs are not a playoffs team before 2026… Remove Anderson. Newhook is not a top first line player. I disagree the way you want the Habs to become. Thanks for your input anyway.
@@HockeyNationLiveShow they will be changing coaching Armia Newhook Roy 3rd line
@@HockeyNationLiveShow Anderson is a type of player you need in the playoffs but if Montreal does not change the coaching staff or bring somebody into help they have no chance
@@KeithGreene-wu7bu Coach is not the problem it’s their skills talent they don t have yet. Bowman won’t change anything behind the bench. How can you win with Montembeault Primeau in the net…
@@HockeyNationLiveShow Coaching is the problem. Our defense can't get the puck out of their own end when under pressure. In the playoffs, the defense is constantly under pressure. We've had 2 years of MSL's dislike for systems. The 4 teams that made it to the Conference final this year ALL had systems on defense, and offence. We need to get rid of MSL and get an EXPERIENCED coach, who can implement winning systems of playing at both ends of the ice!
Trading Xhekaj and Roy , that’s it , I wish people would keep mailloux out of trade proposals, Jesus .
I think you should always keep RHD over LHD.
Why trade a good tough defenceman and your top forward prospect when we’re in a rebuild. ?
@@danmartel2 listen , what’s the use of a tough guy with 2 injured shoulders, at his age , it not gonna get better , if you have him for show , well that’s ok I guess . He’s not helping the team if every time he gets in a fight , his shoulder gets broken injured. I have shoulder problems, I have hard enough time to wipe my ass sometimes with the pain in my shoulder, the range of motion is affected big time , if you think Arber has a long career in the NHL as a tough guy, your sadly mistaken. Other than fighting, even his clapper with be affected with shoulder injuries. What else does he provide. We also have Florian . Why is Mailloux is the one , always on the trade block .
So fed up with this fan base .
@@ellenkeefe76 I don’t want to give up Logan M. I think he is going to be great. Arber adds a big tough defenceman who hits. Clears the front etc. only untouchables should be Ghule Arber Logan and Hutson.
@@ellenkeefe76He's not just a tough guy. He's young enough that his shoulders will be fine. He clocked a 107.5 mph shot.
If I was Montreal, I would offer Xhekaj to move up in the draft. I don’t think Roy would be enough.
I agree that Anderson needs to go, because with MSL it never really worked. I’d trade Mailloux if I have to pick a D to move. I don’t like him in his own end..
Kaliyev you must be joking especially after what your pal Devallano told you about Kaviyev’s attitude issues and poor work ethic?
Wonder why he’s available ?
Stay far far away !
He is available like Necas no TOI. That’s why Necas and Kayliev want to leave. Turcotte sticks in the ladder. If you can trade contract Anderson no hesitation to do it .
He is available like Necas no TOI. That’s why Necas and Kayliev want to leave. Turcotte sticks in the ladder. If you can trade contract Anderson no hesitation to do it .
@@HockeyNationLiveShow The bad attitude and lousy work ethic have zero to do with TOI as it was obvious before he got drafted per Devallano!
Devallano laughed at how bad this guy was !
The coaching of The haves will come into question more so this year the style he wants to play is not playoff hockey will never win if he does not change or get help the Habs are going nowhere
Huh?