Ceado Hoop Coffee Brewer
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- The Hoop is a new, award-winning, made in Italy, manual coffee brewer from Ceado. Utilizing what is being called radial infusion, the Hoop makes delicious, well-extracted cups of coffee for baristas of any skill level.
Chapters :
00:00 Intro
01:00 Radial Infusion v Pourover Brewing
02:38 Specifications
03:41 Brewing with the Hoop
06:48 Final Thoughts
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Just when I thought they couldn’t invent another pour over device, a new one comes out lol
Lots more are coming. It's just still historically new vs a French press that's barely changed
Fantastic technical examples and explanations. Thank you Brian. Love whole latte love for many years. Always educate us and give best buying decisions with excellent detailed and well understood examples of ‘how to’ or ‘how does it work’ videos. Im a fan of this channel for more than a decade i believe and wish to visit your shop some day. Love from Israel:)
I love the technical details ❤
This is a great breakdown, and really helped me before purchasing it, to understand the potential vs other brewers out there. Thanks for your detailed breakdown, and it is much appreciated!
I love this brewer. As you mentioned there's a lot of things you can experiment!
Fascinating brewer..and it certainly seems ideal for busy cafes looking for more consistency in their brews
This is actually amazing for the office! I‘d try it with an AeroPress filter which should allow to coarsen up the grind which in turn should result in less fines and therefore a cleaner cup. Personally, I really love the smaller batches of 13g of coffee to 200g of water, but if water retention is this high, maybe 15 to 250 makes more sense.
So interesting!
Nice video fun and informative
Thanks for the review, it makes me automatically buy the Hoop....lol...
Pour over coffee with no kettle needed... perfect travel brewer!
and I just bought a Tricolate with the idea of buying the Hario switch to attach to it then I see that the pulsar brewer is coming out in September and now the Hoop lol haha hahaha haha that's the laughter of madness
Let’s hope the halfwits at goodwill don’t know what it is and price it at $3.99 I’ll buy one!
So I have a LOT of Aeropress filters .. that is WONDERFUL news they work with the same filters.
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Interesting! 🤔
Really happy that you guys covered this very interesting brewer, there's still so little info on it. I have one myself now and have been having great results. I brew with a 12.5:300 gr. ratio, 212ºF water and 16 or 17 clicks on my Comandante C40. Despite the insanely long ratio, most coffees come out very flavourful and with a lot of body. This is with the original Ceado filters which sadly even here in Europe seem to be hard to get separately. I'm curious, have you tested with longer ratios too? Was the 1:15 more for a good comparison with the V60?
Hi there.
I love hearing that you are utilizing different brew ratios. The 1 : 15 ratio we used here was indeed used as a familiar jumping off point, being a more traditional ratio used in other manual brewing methods. That really is the beauty of the Hoop, that experimentation with different ratios and methods are so easy to accomplish. I can say that I have not tried the 1 : 24 ratio you have been using, but now I am very curious to do so! Thank you.
--BRYAN
Thanks for this review.
Do you get a flat coffee bad at the end of the brew without swirling or something like this?
Hi there.
Without swirling or tapping, the bed levels out quite nicely on its own, especially if you stir the bloom.
--BRYAN
Brewing takes around 5mn. What's the coffee temperature in the cup after that ?
Not sure you can taste a hot cup of coffee with the Ceado Hoop at the end.
Just discovered this one. Going on the wishlist. Curious: what is that machine on your lefthand side in the bg?
Hi there.
The Hoop is a wonderful brewer. I still use it frequently here in the office. The grinder pictured behind is the ridiculously nice Ceado E37Z-Hero.
www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e37z-hero-coffee-grinder
--BRYAN
Besides the water delivery, what are the differences between this and an aeropress without the plunger? It looks interesting. Whole Latte Love did a great job with the video. Lots of metrics, but I would have appreciated a brew temp comparison between v60 and the Hoop to address concerns about the Hoop lowering the temperature of the brew. Thanks for the video!
Hi there.
The water delivery is the key difference in this scenario, and is a big difference. The soft infusion of the Hoop provides a more even extraction of the ground coffee than pouring the hot water directly onto the grounds. The Aeropress also has the filter cap that the filter sits in, whereas the tension of the coffee and water is completely supported by the filter in the Hoop.
When it comes to brew temps, in testing with the ratios listed in the video (17g coffee / 255g water), a 4 and a half minute brew time using the Hoop saw the end-result brewed coffee 62°F cooler than the initial temperature of the brew water, and a control test of just adding hot water to a carafe and letting it cool in ambient room temps saw a decrease of 60°F. Furthermore, if it is assumed that a brew water temp of somewhere between about 200°F-205°F was used, that would mean that your coffee would be at an optimal drinking temperature immediately once it is done brewing. If a slightly hotter end result is desired, you can also pre-heat whatever vessel you are brewing into and/or use an insulated vessel.
--BRYAN
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Do you dump the water from pre wet before you add coffee beans, since you mentioned it washes out potential papery taste?
Hi there.
Great question as I did not specifically mention this. Yes, the water used to pre-wet the filter should be discarded before brewing. You can either just pre-wet the filter over a sink and then place it on top of your brewing vessel or pour the water out of your carafe before brewing.
--BRYAN
Are you certain that using more water (solvent) will decrease extraction?
It may decrease TDS / strength but extraction yield should be increased, unless we're talking very different kind of physics here.
Hi there.
Great catch, don't know how I missed that. You are correct, I misspoke. If all other variables remain the same, adding more water will increase extraction. In this case, even TDS increases due to the extended brew/steep time. Thank you for paying such close attention.
--BRYAN
Will this be available on the Canadian whole latte love?
Hi there.
The Hoop is now available on the Canadian Whole Latte Love site. You can find both versions here :
Ceado Hoop (Ghost) : wholelattelove.ca/products/ceado-hoop-coffee-brewer-ghost
Ceado Hoop (Black) : wholelattelove.ca/products/ceado-hoop-coffee-brewer-black
How do you bloom?
I have been using it several times, I found that if the coffee bed gets higher than the holes as we pour, some of the coffee will go out to the water crown. Did you also get this?
Hi there.
That is something that occasionally did happen for me as well, especially when agitating / stirring the bed. If your grind size is dialed in for about a 3-4 minute brew, and in keeping the dose to 17 grams and under, I find it rarely happens and even when it did, the end result was still just as tasty.
--BRYAN
Any insight on a grind setting for a Virtuoso+? Just ordered one from you. Thanks
Hi there.
I went over and grabbed our studio Virtuoso+ and did some particle analysis for you. While every grinder is going to be a little different in reference to burr wear, bean type, etc... setting our grinder between 14-16 on the dial was ideal for Hoop brewing. Hope this helps.
--BRYAN
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks very much!
Hi ,what would be the grind setting on fellow ode gen 2 for the hoop?
Hi there.
I would recommend around a 4, maybe a little bit finer.
--BRYAN
there is no danger that the coffee will clog the holes through which the water flows.? especially after mixing the coffee with a spoon?
Great question and valid concern.
The Hoop has become my go-to way of making a cup of coffee for myself here in the studio ever since making this video, and I can say that if using the correct grind size, even with stirring the coffee, I have never clogged the holes. The holes in the filter tower are arranged at a downward angle, so the water entering them from the water crown is always at a higher level and travels downward toward the middle where the grounds are. I could potentially see this being an issue if you perhaps were using a grind size so coarse that one single ground could get wedged in there, but that size grind would not produce the desired result in the first place.
--BRYAN
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you very much for the answer. I have ordered the ceado hoop and it's on its way olready.
Have you tried a 2 pour method, rather than a single pour?
Great question.
The only ways that separating out your pours would make a difference would be if you either added a very small amount of water and let it completely drain down before starting the second pour, or doing a brief first pour directly onto the bed of grounds. In our testing, neither of these really made enough of a difference in extraction or taste to make them worth repeating. As long as the water level in the water crown is above the dispersion holes in the filter tower, the water will pour out onto the grounds at a fairly steady rate, so there really isn't much of a reason to overcomplicate it by separating out your pours.
--BRYAN
Can you reccomend a less expensive carafe that would work with this brewer? The one you're using is priced at $70 on your website, & is far too expensive for me.
Hi there.
The Saint Anthony Industries Tresco is another great option for the Hoop :
www.wholelattelove.com/products/saint-anthony-industries-tresco-server
You can also brew directly into most mugs, in fact, our double-walled camp mug works great.
www.wholelattelove.com/products/whole-latte-love-horizon-camp-mug-12-oz-in-black
@@Wholelattelovepage thank you for the quick reply!
Is plastic in contact with the hot water ?
You see it.
Stalls almost every time, but sometimes it works. I can't figure it out why it happens when it happens and vice versa.
Cool.
Now I have to get a micrometer.
$40 is kind of steep for this brewer… but that won’t stop me from buying it
Lol same here
Made in Italy not China, you can take some solace in the fact you’re supporting living wages and human working conditions in Europe which comes with some added cost
I would buy it if it was made out of glass or ceramic.
Can you just use open aeropress, and not buy another brewer?
Interesting brewer that definitely can make consistent brews, but I quite sceptical about so small grind size and 4 mins brews. I could assume that it can easily lead to overextracted or bitter brews.
Maybe I missing smth here?
So I guess here need a taste calibration with reviewer. Because some like balanced, acidic or tea-like brews, but someone like bitter with small hints of actual bean taste brews.
Hi there.
I feel that this is a healthy skepticism. Being that extraction yield was something that was measured constantly during testing, the grind size was dialed in to hit a percentage somewhere between 18% and 22% (aka brews were not over-extracted). Although not mentioned in the video, using a sieve to sift out fines is another great way to manipulate your extractions, leading to a slightly cleaner cup. The Hoop brings together sort of a best of both worlds scenario between drip and immersion brewing, blending the lighter, brighter tastes typically associated with pourover brewing with the body and oils sometimes found in immersion brews. I prefer lighter, specialty roast coffees, and the Hoop handles them perfectly and provides the user with easy to repeat results.
--BRYAN
@@Wholelattelovepage Bryan, thanks for your response! If so then it’s a good sign!)
your words about brews sounds for me like when you master moka pot with aeropress filter and then dilute it with water to have something similar to pour over but with more pronounced flavors in the final brew in comparison with v60, am I nearly close to understanding?)
I'll say that I have never tried the technique you mentioned in your response, but as long as it produces a cup with both a great brightness and a round mouthfeel then I'd say you've got it.
--BRYAN
I was really excited... Until I saw you don't ship to UAE 😢
Hey Ali, So sorry!!!
suadi arabi they have with good pric
you had me at "plastic"...why can't it be made w/ ceramic or more "natural" material?
My first brew was a disaster. I tried 20 of coffee and 300 gr watet. I used a dark roast. The grounds bloom to the top of the grounds chamber, and above the water dispensing holes. At that point, brewed coffee escapes through the holes into the brew water. The video does not reveal any appreciable bloom.
Looks like a lot of plastic in contact with boiling water?
Looks like that to me. Heat and plastic don't mix well. That is a show stopper for me. I try to stick to glass or stainless steel. I don't use an aeropress for the same reason.
was all that in-your-face branding really necessary?
HOOOOOOP!
let's brew Jesse
Sigh... another way for to me make coffee, to go with all the other ways I can make coffee. Yep, sign me up 😂
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Only thing I don’t like about it is that it’s plastic. I guess if it was ceramic or glass it would probably be 60 or 80$ instead of 40$ which is already really expensive
Any help to grind for hoop with 1zpresso k ultra
I’m really struggling to find out because this is my first brewer ever
With my k-plus I'm using 5.5 16g medium roast and 300ml.
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Really appreciate your reply
Will try it out tomorrow