The reason Ross can't deal with failure is because his parents told him his entire life he was perfect. Monica works harder when things don't go her way because he parents treated her like she wasn't good enough. Ross believes he is perfect and when he makes mistakes he overreacts because he believes he cannot make a mistake.
You think so? I always thought that she got Joey the best. But they do have a closer bond than people give them credit for - seriously, he bought her a rare bike from her childhood dreams just so she could have a happy experience.
Ross and Monica's parents kind of suck. Monica is very clearly second best to Ross in their eyes. But even as the "favorite" Ross was traumatized by his parents for being different in any way. That kind of treatment in early childhood can be nearly impossible to fully recover from. And let's not forget that even his friends undermine his career, a huge part of his identity, for most of the show. That takes a toll on a person. It's really great to see that he and Monica don't let their childhood ruin their relationship with each other.
Potato Girl I love your comment! I always thought Ross was too good for the other friends. He’s a cultured, intelligent, successful academic with a PhD and his dumb, tasteless friends ridicule him for it. Rachel was too shallow and self-centered for him.
very true. Ross was only the favorite because and when we acted the way they wanted. He put quite a bit of effort into getting his parents approval. When he messed up, in their eyes, they were usually quite cruel about it.
Sure it’s easy to make fun of yourself when you don’t take yourself too seriously. Ross clearly took himself way too seriously. Also Ross was clearly the golden child growing up and poor Monica was the scapegoat.
The editing. The script. The actual analysis instead of a bs top ten list. The woman's voice. The fact that you guys actually read the comments. Damn. Just damn. I've loved friends since i was born and that's what drew me to your channel but im staying for all of it. So good. Yes. Thank you times a million for existing.
Their parents are totally horrible people. The way the mother treats monica, the way their dad questions his masculinity because he loves playing with a dinosaur? No wonder the geller siblings grew up like that. Though i must say, with all those flaws their lives turned out pretty well in the end. Hell my parents are great yet I'm still waiting for a semblance of a relationship like what monica and chandler had.
I think Ross is justified how agressive he is against Carol and Susan. If Carol had cheated with a man and then had the man be theirs child’s father and not just step father nobody would require him to be understanding. I think his frustration and insecurity in large part stem form other people not seeing what happened form his perspective.
NO he talked about the cheat but in some way the lesbian part would hurt more, you feel that they LIED to you for years, she was pulling away form him for mouth, he did nothing wrong think about how that would hurt. and then you find out she gay and cheating, you ask your self did she ever love me, how long was she lieing,
I’ve always felt bad for Ross. His parents expected too much of him so when he failed he felt terrible about himself, all of his friends made fun of his job, which he loved a lot, his first wife went behind his back and cheated on him with someone else and didn’t even bother to tell him the truth, Carol and Susan got to have full custody (basically) of Ben, and he just wanted to start a happy family. He was treated badly throughout the show. I think the only person who really understood him was Phoebe.
I’m kinda late but I agree completely. Ross was probably the most tormented friend (Chandler a close second), and all the other friends made it seem like they were too good for him. Carol not only cheated on him, but lied about her sexuality for who knows how long, and then acted like a complete bitch afterwards. I hate how characters like Phoebe, and Joey can act horribly and get away with it because “They don’t know any better.”
Carol never went behind his back. She didn't know she was a lesbian and it was Ross who suggested the 3 some. He was THERE. She left upon finding out her own sexuality. But, I'm sure Carol's trauma of denying who she is to fit into a world where it's not ok to be who she is and her family rejects her doesn't compare to Ross having a family who loves him. There's no reason for Ross to have custody. A baby needs his mom and a 2 parent household will always be better than 1. There was no point where Ross was denied seeing his kid nor did he want custody.
@@xejelah no, a child needs a mother and a father....a woman can't get pregnant without a man, that's just the way it is! Also, as Carol herself not knowing she was a lesbian, from what I'm told, they are born that way and have always known they are homosexual. So yes, she would have had to have lied about being straight
@@carinnovick2995 you are born that way but sometimes it does take a long time to figure it out, esp if you're raised really religiously or in an environment where it's drilled into you that being gay isn't normal or ok
This is fantastic. I love how you went deeper into his misogynistic views, most people only see that. But they don’t realize what Ross went through and why he makes many mistakes. This really did see the good side of Ross. I love his little tifs with Phoebe because they are really different but they still love one another. He really does grow throughout. Just like the rest of the characters. I love this video.
I never thought he was misogynist. Terrible at relationships - yes. Maybe insecure with his masculinity. well maybe. Maybe a guy who was centre of all the jokes that how his wife 'turned gay' after marrying him, let alone nobody acknowledging the fact that she cheated while he was so invested in the marriage. So yes, maybe he was all those things. But he loved his sister, his friends and cared about his girlfriends. I never saw anything misogynistic there. It's funny how people nowadays just throw some random trendy words here and there
@@almightyguy3987 That word has lost all of it's meaning due to overuse. Basically any criticism of any woman is termed misogynistic these days. I am literally Ross right now, the same insecurity, the same trauma from relationship with my parents, also the same intelligence, and similar profession ( I'm a Mechanical Engineering student ), and even I'm a hopeless romantic. Basically I have a crush on a girl in my college, and I have dreamt my entire future with her, and we are in the same friend circle. I have a hope for promising future, and I do want a relationship with a caring and kind girl, but I just can't get myself to date, as it could be a possible distraction and point of singularity in my later life. I don't want to be the anxious Ross betrayed by my Carol, and so I feel fearful of any relationship right now.
@@mechanicalengineerturbo I've been there. No matter how hard you try life seems to be, well, not going anywhere, stagnant. For me, most frustrating was to digest the fact that a big chunk of my life was unproductive. A well settled life was a distant dream (it still is, to some extent). It would have been nice to have someone to hold my hands but I was alone. But you know what, life sorts these problems out by itself. Just hang in there, it will get better. Every relationship will be re-established and you will find new ones too. It was same for me. It's same for everyone I guess.
Nope, Lisa Kudrow was the most talented actor in the show. As all of her co-stars have said: _"It takes someone incredibly smart to play someone incredibly stupid."_ Also, Lisa was the first actor in the show to win an Emmy Award for favorite comedic actress, thanks to her role of Phoebe playing the surrogate mother to the triplets of her brother and older girlfriend.
Ross is a good person. The things that he did for Carol, even when she cheated on him!. Or the way he always support phoebe, even when they were so different. Or how he always protected Monica. He always was there for Joey and Chandler. Ross it was just real, not bad, just real. His flaws it wasn't worst than any other person. It was just his flaws
I wouldn’t call Ross a good person, but I wouldn’t go as far as too say that he’s a bad person. A bad person is someone who does horrible things on purpose without recourse, which Ross obviously doesn’t do. Ross isn’t much butter, nor is he worse than the other protagonists of Friends, particularly Rachel
I think all of the friends are "good" people, but they still do crummy things. Carol didn't cheat on Ross - he's the one who wanted the 3 some. Susan didn't want anything to do with him, he got bored being with Carol, then bored of watching them. You can't watch a man propose a 3 some and then claim his wife "cheated". She found out she was gay and left.
@@xejelah whaaattt? Carol cheated Ross way before that She was with Susan in the same gym, and there, the fell in love. And making a 3 some it's no excuse Because it was just that, they didn't make an arrangement of having an open relationship. He did that to save their marriage even!!
Ross has good sides, he's genuinely a good friend and a good brother for Monica, which is sweet considering the parenting favoritism. However, it's hard to get over how problematic he is. He's a good friend but terrible relationship material. If it weren't for fan service, I don't think he would have ended up with Rachel, they still had ridiculous arguments and possessive/jealousy issues right until the end. They kept bringing the worst in each other in all fairness.
Most of the show is fan service, you think those two ending up was a one-time thing? It was fan-service to make them unrealistically fight a lot in the first place, so saying something is fan service is moot at best.
I agree. Like you said he is a good friend (he gave dream bike to phoebe) but his problem is never work about his first marriage. I think Ross failed her relaship because he try to simulate his first marriage. I think he is still love with Carol but he never move on from it because Carol was lesbian so they never have true conclusion. Plus the fact he is golden child he never learn to handle his emotions and empaty. In every case I don't like for one motivation ;he stole from hotels, that I worked for 4 years like cleaner and it is annoying to relocate the staff becouse people are greed
Sifya Its not ok by stealing items from hotels but when they rip you off for with a bunch of hidden fees and relocate you into a larger suite just to make you pay more than I would definitely be pissed off. Stealing is justified in those situations.
I think the best scene to understand Ross 's character is when Ross and PHOEBE are talking in the hospital after Emma was born . Ross is so scared to confess his feelings to Rachel because they could break up again,hurt each other again,he is not even thinking in himself,he is so much more scared for Emma. Anyway,great video
Unfortunately, Phoebe and Joey are the least realistically human characters (and the ones with the least business living in The Village in Giuliani's New York). They are REALLY funny characters, but that's part of their one-dimensionality.
IMO the most hilarious parts of the show where, when Ross got into really embarrassing or uncomfortable situations. The Mississippi -tan, the leather pants, overly white teeth, trying to make out with his cousin, finding out that Rachel was pregnant (and trying to explain to her father that he was not going to marry Rachel, after she got pregnant) etc. Many people say that Chandler or Joey was the funny one, but I think it really was Ross.
Yeah, I am like kind of annoyed by Ross from time to time, more than the other characters. They all suffer from toxic masculinity, but I think Ross is the one that most acts on it (ben playing with a barbie and the male nanny). Although I think his actions are completely justified by toxic youth experiences and ongoing teasing about femininity. Also he is kind of selfabsorbed from time to time. I think the "we were on a break"-thing was also more fair on his side, but he should've read the letter that Rachel wrote. Yes, it was long, yes, it was in the middle of the night, but I think it's also completely justified that Rachel got the idea that Ross didn't really want to work for their relationship. Yes, he is caring and thoughtful, but think about the times that he didn't care to stuck up to his parents when they treated Monica unfairly. I think he is not really great, but I also feel bad for him. He got shit in his youth and toxic masculinity, which didn't really improve during his character development. Ofcourse this is my opinion and vision on it all. If you want correct me if you think I'm wrong
I don't think any of the friends are toxic. Good people still pull crap. That's a part of being human. However, whenever people find someone they identify with they tend to look at them with rose colored glasses and ignore the bad like it didn't happen or doesn't mean anything. That's what's truly toxic. The "friends" call each other out on their crap too.
I just recently started rewatching FRIENDS and it's just my luck that you guys started making this video series at the same time. Rewatching the show as an adult has already given me a new perspective and appreciation of the characters but your videos are just the cherry on top. You really make me love the friends even more and your videos are really pulling at my heartstrings there
You forget that when Ross was trying to move on from Rachel. Mosly in the early seasons, Rachel ends up being jealous and want to be with Ross. She starts being mopy and sad about it then all the other friends start joining her side. It is very destructive and alienateing for Ross's partners. If it wasn't for Rachel, Ross would properly would of moved on with Emily.
Joey X Smith I agree, that’s an incredibly astute observation. I would have hated to be Julie, Bonnie, or Emily. They seemed like great girls and Ross seemed so genuinely happy with them.
What I don't get was when Ross said the wrong name at Emily and his wedding. Why would Emily agree to continue the wedding? Like who would continue a wedding after your partner saying an ex's name.
I actually really loved Julie. She was beautiful, intelligent and sweet. I hated how Rachel treated her just because she was jealous. Jealousy doesn’t look good on anyone
not truth at all, he never loved Emily. Rachel didn't get to tell him she loved him before the wedding day, she went there and said "Good Luck", and he said her name at the altar even though she did not went on to confess her love for him. Also, she started to love him right after her clueless self were told he was in love with her, by Chandler, while he was in China. So when she fell in love with him, she did not know he was already with Julie. She met Julie after feeling in love with him. He never cared about Mona, neither to Bonnie, he was a terrible boyfriend to them and ultimately broke up the relationships on his own "destructive and alienating" behaviours, not Rachel's. In fact Rachel did NOTHING about them, she was pairing with other men or happily alone when he was with them. And, she even went on to support him and help him with some girls along the seasons when they were set as only friends, remember how she helped him shop clothes for dating, or that amazing nice thing she did for the Pizza girl he was flirting with? Rachel secretly ran to her and gave her his number and told her how amazing of a guy he was so he can have a shot. She was an amazing friend. You should check the Take on Rachel, the Real protagonist video, and try to understand why she could not be with him for so long even thought she loved him very much. She was not wrong at all.
This is fantastic. I love how you went deeper into his misogynistic views, most people only see that. But they don’t realize what Ross went through and why he makes many mistakes. This really did see the good side of Ross. I love his little tifs with Phoebe because they are really different but they still love one another. He really does grow throughout. Just like the rest of the characters. I love this video.
ross is the most underrated character IMO. people don’t realize all the shit he’s gone through throughout the series and i think that’s why he’s done a lot of the things he did throughout the series.
Love these Friends videos! I've always thought Ross was the funniest character on the show, but at times difficult to sympathize with when he acts super irrationally. But this video pointed out some stuff that I never thought about (like his similarities to Monica). Can't wait for the Phoebe and Joey ones!
Oh my gosh I freaking love this break out of Ross !he has always been one of my favorite characters ,I think my favorite character but it is so amazing how you guys broke down his characteristics and his flaws and showing as he’s progressed as a character , it’s really is Fascinating, great job as always!!! Can’t wait to the next one with you guys should do for your next one a breakdown of new girl characters!
Chandler was my favorite character. His *journey* was the biggest. Coming from a guy who was afraid to commit in serious relationships and hiding his uncomfortable attitude and insecurity towards women with sarcasm and jokes. Then he was turning into this guy who was capable of doing opposite of everything in the above. Becoming a loving husband, father and having a career in a job that he loves. Also his growth was just the biggest and most consistent over the ten season run. You do have to *admit* that Ross's character was great since the very first episode, similar to that of Joey's, but the writers were deconstructing his character too much by forcing him to go through all these divorces and failed relationships that was basically holding back any mature growth for him to succeed. Nevertheless, the final episode was fully *justified* with him ending up with Rachel for good. They were meant to be.
"And wherever you fall on the 'if they were on a break' question, it's still a dumb thing to do if you want things to work out." THANK YOU!!! It doesn't matter if they were on break or not, Ross just simply wasn't ready to be in a relationship. He really was the most flawed character in the show and I really liked him in the first couple of seasons. He really does become more and more of a mess as the show goes on, but he does grow.
I think this video romanticizes the Ross/Rachel couple a little bit... putting aside the fact that the relationship brought out the WORSE aspects of Ross's personality along with the good (like his paranoia, jealousy, insecurity and control issues, which yeah are a part of all his relationships in general because of his issues but are especially prominent with rachel) there's the simple fact that they just don't really gel together well. They have zero common interests or anything unique about their interactions other than 'generic couple', they don't bring the best in each other (like Chandler and Monica do) and they have waaay too many arguments and drama, sometimes it feels like they spent 50% of their time together being unhappy and breaking up. imo the healthiest relationship they had was raising Emma while still being completely platonic friends, so I was disappointed they ended up together eventually, it felt like a step backwards for their character development (that being said I still love Ross to bits lmao. David Schwimmer was the best and funniest actor of the whole group)
doh B lmao yikes buddy I definitely wouldn't call Rachel bitchy or slutty, wtf. Sure they both had problems and had to grow up, but my point is Ross had some really ugly behaviours whenever they were a couple. He's the one that got obsessively jealous (and arguably even cheated on her so shouldn't HE be the one who's actually slutty lol??)
doh B oh true I'm not saying Ross is a bad person for having issues or that it was all his fault. Just that Ross and Rachel didn't help each other grow whenever they were together, and they were better people when they were just friends
I think the show itself romanticizes their relationship big time, so it's not surprising that an analysis of their actions on the show would do similar... especially on a video about Ross, who is in fact, a hopeless romantic. Whether or not their relationship was perfect, it's still the main plotline for both of them from the beginning to the end of the show.
Kat B but that’s what they were like before because they both had deep rooted issues that they needed to overcome separately but once they’ve fixed them they truly are a good couple in my opinion
I always love these videos because they usually point out so many things I never noticed and allow me to appreciate a character/something more. Thank you, Screenprism
Gosh I love this series so much. When I was younger, Friends was purely comedy for me. I'm now in my twenties and have just rewatched the series again and have a new found appreciation for it and love the way it treats the ups and downs of young adult life through characters with flaws, quirks and unique upbringings. I respect that you've taken the time out to analyse each character and give us a completely different perspective to what they're normally know for (Monica- obsessive, Ross- goofy, Joey- dumb, phoebe- quirky etc). Looking forwards to what you say about Joey, I've always thought he was one of the most loyal, caring friends but had the worst character progression written for him. New subscriber!
Considering most of issues were control based, I'd say they did. Ross didn't get anything he hasn't dished out. He's taken jabs at all of them the same. I'd say the video portrayed him accurately, it showed the good and the bad. This is about Ross, not showing all the times the friends help him.
I can't even imagine so many people hate Ross....I mean Ross has most lines and screen time along with Rachel...If he wasn't in the show....We wouldn't have got- 1) Unagi. 2) Pivot 3)We were on a break. 4)I'm Fine 5) When he found out Rachel is pregnant,etc. He was the king of Expressions and the most funniest character along with Miss Chanandler Bong..... He will always remain my favorite character
I love the character of Ross because he’s kind, intelligent, and usually tries to take the high road. He constantly needs to prove he’s right because he IS right. On the other hand, he’s the embodiment of repression and perfectionism. He suppresses a lot of emotions in order to do the responsible thing instead of working through them organically. On another note, I wonder WHY he fell in love with Rachel as a high schooler in the first place. They clearly had nothing in common, and it seems like he just liked her because she was hot and popular. That’s a pretty shallow reason to put someone on a pedestal.
hollywoodshopaholic having nothing in common is one of the best things about being in a relationship. You’re able to discover and adapt to the new changes that your partner offers that you never really cared for. It’s thrilling, I find it boring when you’re with someone who enjoys everything you do. I rather grow with someone and create memories that you never thought would happen and grow fond of. Ofc everyone has their own idea of a perfect relationship. I guess that’s why I love Ross and Rachel, their relationship wasn’t perfect and it had so many ups and downs and that’s how relationships are in real life. Though I do wish the writers didn’t make Ross and Rachel go through so much to get to the conclusion. Especially since they wanted Ross to originally go to Paris and fall in love with Rachel again, I rather see that then that whole Joey and Rachel thing.
okay i take issue with the whole "ross cant handle rachel having a career". first of all, mark ADMITTED he was trying to get with rachel. so thats not paranoia as much as hyperawareness (unagi as ross would put it). he knew something was up and as soon as ross and rachel broke up mark made a pass at rachel. ross was fine with her having a career but rachel was neglectful of him. if the tables were turned and ross was spending a lot of time with a female colleague who was clearly attracted to him and he kicked rachel out of his job and proceeded to have dinner with the female colleague on his anniversary rachel wouldve been just as right to dump him. secondly, rachel was neglecting their relationship. according to ross they were having a relationship over the answering machine and rachels only defense was "i like my job! im good at it." she didnt deny that ross was telling the truth. ross also loves his job but he makes time to be a caring boyfriend and rachel simply doesnt do the same for him. ross is right to be upset especially when mark shows up at rachels apartment and she doesnt kick him out the way she kicked out ross from her job. if she was going to draw a line for her personal and work life she needs to enforce it on both ends but she didn't do that with mark and that was highly inappropriate. she was literally having dinner with another man on HER ANNIVERSARY WITH ROSS!
I probably have enough in common with Ross for this to count as a therapy session. Though I've overcome the need to "prove" my masculinity, his struggle still hits close to home. This video has also given me a lot to think about when it comes to my own less than stellar love life. So thank you for another great video. It has been a wonderful journey of nostalgia and self-discovery.
I always kinda hated Ross as a character cos he was really whiny and entitled and had offensive hang-ups about gender and sexuality. I don't think his 'unrequited love' for Rachel made him more sympathetic - if anything, it made him more shallow and creepy, because he was obsessed with a girl for decades sheerly because of how she looked. It's not like they had a single thing in common. But God do I love Mental Geller.
I think all three men have severe hang ups about their masculinity...especially chandler. It has always puzzled me how everyone thinks Ross is the only one like this
This comment is like, the exact opposite of what the video was trying to express... lol Ignored every point they made, and just clung to your viewpoint. You never had any intention of giving it a fair chance. I'd be scared to be your friend and not be perfect.
Man... You guys must study hard to analyze each of this character so nicely... Good job again... But anyhow like they say God works in mysterious ways... Ross wished to have a perfect relationship with Rachel and he did with so much experience and acceptance of imperfect things
I've always felt that people haven't appreciated or talked about Ross's issues and character as much as Chandler is talked about even though Ross does have a lot of issues as mentioned in the video. I'm so glad I found this piece.
I think the biggest indication of his growth as a person, was him giving his blessing to Rachel in the end, to go to Paris. He was completely supportive once he realized that it was what she wanted. This is such a change from how it was when she started out her career and he felt that it was taking her away from him.
I don't know why everyone hates Ross so much. Yeah, he's kind of an asshole, but they all are in their own ways... And everyone always mocks him in the show soooo
This is the kind of video ive been waiting for omg. I keep hearing people talk shit about Ross without understanding what causes is behavior in the first place. People are always quick to forget all the good things he's done in the show
I love all these friend analysis. Friends was the first show I ever enjoyed that wasn't a kid's show. And character analysis is my favourite kind of analysis!
I love this channel! Great analysis, I love how Ross grows towards the end, he even starts laughing at himself which is great character development. I can’t wait for one on Phoebe!😄
I never really appreciated the fact to how well they disguised deep/hard hitting lines as jokes. Ross talking to the male nanny about him not acting like a “real boy” kinda just went over my head, and I never really took it in until this video explained it in detail
I think the whole Ross making fun of lesbians is an interesting subject. I really don't think he was making fun of lesbians, I think he was mostly trying to make fun of Susan because of the grudge he holds against her, because even though he's not in love with Carol anymore he still loves her so it's easier to take it out on the other person. But still, when it really matters, he's there for them. We see him learning to co-parent not only with his exwife but also with her new wife. Nowadays a lot of this stuff, especially on TV, ends in custody issues. Let's not forget it was the 90's, the LGBT community was not so outspoken and present in media as now. At the same time, people had a thicker skin. He makes comments to his friends. I do that all the time, we all have those characteristics the others are mean about, in private, with people we know and love and trust. If Ross didn't trust Susan, would he leave his child with her so easily? On a more personal note, I never liked how they all made fun of his job and I get his frustration with it. As a person who's trying to get a scientific PhD, I get how difficult it is to make your friends and family appreciate this. Half of them think is boring shit or don't have the patience or will to try to understand it, the other half may acknowledge that it's worthy but don't get how a person can be so passionate about it as you have to be to do the kind of sacrifices you do for a PhD. Funniest thing, other characters in Friends do those sacrifices, but for some reason they're not made fun of. Maybe Ross's job is Susan's homosexuality. I don't know, he almost never was my favorite character (except when he went full science, cause he nailed it, especially when admitting to Phoebe that nothing he knows is 100% sure, that's probably one of the basis of certain sciences, like biology. If we talk about physics that could change) but I didn't hate them as much as other people. I understood, even as young as I was, why he was the way he was, and I accepted that, as a person, he was as valid and real as any of the other Friends.
I understand where people come from when they dislike him,but its so annoying when they say «hes the worst” and call him a homophobe and stuff when all the friends clearly had many problematic beliefs.Even chandler,everyones favourite,had said and done many bad things but hes forgiven in contrast to ross.Yes ,ross has many flaws, but i like that about him and i find him extremely funny and under appreciated
Exactly! Everyone seems to have their blinders on when it comes to criticising the other friend's problematic aspects but dogpile on ross because it's easy to. Candler's treatment of his father always rubbed me the wrong way and the way he dealt with his problems in relationships was childish and shitty. Joe's attitude towards his sister getting pregnant shows how possessive men can be with sisters/relatives who are female. All friends have this weird attitude towards feminine aspects in men and the men perpetuate that in return. if you're going to criticise this show from a modern aspect than apply it to all characters.
Wow, a great analysis on what makes Ross such an interesting characters!! Would you guys ever consider doing something similar to this for How I met Your Mother?
I was really interested to see how you were going to interpret his character. I was always surprised that Ross, with so many of his flaws, seems to have the most significant romantic relationships out of all the friends (characterizing significant relationships as lasting more than one or two episodes). I'm looking forward to your analysis of Joey. As much as he tends to be remembered by being kind of dumb and being good with women, I've honestly always thought of him as the most emotionally generous and forgiving of all the friends when it really counts.
I agree! While Joey's probably the least intelligent character out of the six of them, I've really come to think of him as having the biggest heart, and being the most loving character on the show. :)
The friend who loves too much, haha I love the title. PS. Wow I never realise Ross has so many problems, about insecure and jealousy and childhood, until I watch this video. You are right ! How come I never notice these problems.
Akabubi for me I don’t notice these subtleties in Friends because they’re spelled out so slowly over the course of a series, and often serious issues are portrayed alongside a laugh-track, such as Ross being shamed for playing with “girl stuff” as a kid. Granted I’ve only been through the series once, but it makes a lot of sense that Ross being neurotic and intolerant a lot of the time is a natural coping mechanism for a life of shame and failure. It’s certainly NOT an excuse, I’m still not a Ross fan, but it makes him a more interesting character.
I think a good subject for Joey's video would be how difficult it is for him to acept change. He acts as if everything in his life was falling apart when his friends start to settle down. He is the one who ended where he started. Even if he never wanted things to change to begin with.
Well done for actually nailing the character of Ross! So, so many people online only see the one side of Ross and berate him for being possessive, controlling and jealous without seeing underlying reasons why, how he admits to these flaws and how he works to overcome them.
This was a very tricky video to do. I think Ross used to be my favourite friend, however looking at him from a more detached modern perspective made his character seem a bit mean-spirited at times to me. But you really managed to bring out and contextualise the humanity of his character. These Friends vids are superb wells of empathy.
We were SUPPOSED to have a love- hate relationship with Ross. Whenever Ross gets into any argument with Phoebe or Susan or whomever, he usually ends up losing, learns his lesson, and becomes a better person after that.
This made me seriously appreciate Ross as a flawed but developed character. Wow, amazing as always screenprism!!!! You guys are my favorite channel on youtube!
I agree that Ross is the best when he's with Rachel! Same with her! They bring out the best of each other but when they aren't together they bring out the worst
(*Me looking around having not watched the video yet "Guess if no one else is saying it...") "Why doesn't Ross, the largest Friend, simply not eat the others?"
Ross will always be my favorite character on the show. He's the one who had the most growth mentally and emotionally besides maybe Rachel. And he was put through the ringer at every point, but somehow in the end he made it through. In my eyes he's easily the most sympathetic character in the show
I've always thought Ross and Monica are quite similar in some ways and I know a lot of people think Monica is bossy but she really just makes a fuss about small things and is resilient when it comes to dealing with real challenges. Ross, on the other hand, has sort of lived with the illusion that he's completely sorted and he's meant to have a perfect life because his parents were guilty of favouritism. This hurt both their children, but ironically Monica emerged as the stronger one because of that - because she was always the underdog. Ross had to deal with his drive for perfectionism and his deliberate suppression of his feelings. His journey in the series has been the hardest because we see him start out as an emotional, big hearted person who is later heartbroken and then follow a series of mistakes stemming from his impulsiveness. What I like about Ross and Rachel's story is that they both had to grow individually apart before they could be together. He becomes her close friend, they look after their child together and they both learn how to love each other while accepting each other's flaws. I think Ross has been treated unfairly quite a lot of times by Susan and Carol, Rachel and sometimes other people who misjudged him. The reason he likes to hang out with his sister and friends and the reason why he's eager to live an in apartment across from Monica's apartment is because he is comfortable around his sister and they both look out for each other. He IS right on several occasions and he cares about his friends, but his rigidity and obsession with masculinity can sometimes hurt him.
I feel that Ross was the character from whom we saw the least character development... Regrettably, his final reunion with Rachel was so rushed out that we didn't get to see Ross exhibit any real change from his self-centredness, and Rachel's having to give up something important just to be with Ross again certainly didn't look good on him. Ross didn't get his chance to be selfless in love for a change. Which is a pity. I like Ross, I just wish we see more of him outgrowing some of his behavioural patterns.
I actually think it's almost the opposite. At the start of thé series, Ross is the most adjusted of the group having a steady job and "happily" married. He actually regressed when his world shatters and spent the whole show to get his life back on track
I would like a analizys about how the type of person and decisions that took Rachel affected Ross. I noticed that you didnt touch the time where Ross was happy with the no-bald girl until Rachel got in the middle, even Phoeby had to tell her "I don't get it, you dont want him to be happy?". And after that she makes all this thing about the letter at 5 am, after him spent some difficult emotional hours breaking out with his gf and forcing him to accept all "blame" in a very complex situation. I think both of them are guided for ideas that were turning old in that time, like how great was the popular girl for date the nerd (notice how Leonard from the TBBT have the same problems than Ross, both are guys that gives all to his gf but in the second they present an aspect the gfs dont like the guys feelings are tagged as bad [like when the musician friend of Penny wanted to stay at her house]). Rachel want to become what she become at the end of the series but she started her life being a future"wife", a pretty face that will go shopping with her husband money. Deep down she had a sexist expectation about the men that want to date with her, basically she want them to be like her father (a doctor [status], money and full of masculinity). And is "funny" because Ross and Rachel start with old fashion visions about relashosips and learn to overcome this to be toghether. I think that over time they have to keep growing but i think that is also posible that they turn into a marriage like their parents, maybe more the Gellers way that the Greens. (Note: notice how Rachel, Monica and Ross have all this similar problems about marriage because they are all from the same social circle, they all growing up seen the women being stay at home mothers that live very well thanks to high status and "macho" husbands. Marriage Is a obsetion for both Gellers. And Monica and Rachel were pointing for the same "wife life", but as Monica was a awkard and fat girl that need external validation and Rachel was a popular girl tha wanted self aproval their ways turned very different one from the other). I know my english sucks in this comment, i don't have energy to check it.
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You HAVE to make one on phoebe. PLEASE.
Please make an episode about Phoebe!
and Joey!
WHERE ARE THE JOEY AND PHOEBE ANALYSIS? IT'S BEEN TWO MONTHS :(
Joey?
The reason Ross can't deal with failure is because his parents told him his entire life he was perfect. Monica works harder when things don't go her way because he parents treated her like she wasn't good enough. Ross believes he is perfect and when he makes mistakes he overreacts because he believes he cannot make a mistake.
Alessandro Di Girolamo but he did good in his career
Alessandro Di Girolamo this reminds me of how my parents raised me vs my sister this actually made me relate to the show even more
This just makes me admire more how indepth that writers really went into building the history of these characters
Standard golden child and scapegoat paradigm of a narcissistic family unit.
wow very well said..
It's interesting that Phoebe understands Ross the best, when they're the two friends w/ the least in common.
Ross& Phoebe is my fav couple of friends after Chandler&Joey
That's because Phoebe has tons of life experience and so she's good at analysing people.
Actually it's the opposite
They are the one who has the most of their life outside the group
You think so? I always thought that she got Joey the best. But they do have a closer bond than people give them credit for - seriously, he bought her a rare bike from her childhood dreams just so she could have a happy experience.
Luke Dias she’s the one out of the friend group who understands ross the best, but that doesn’t mean he’s the one she understands the best
Ross and Monica's parents kind of suck. Monica is very clearly second best to Ross in their eyes. But even as the "favorite" Ross was traumatized by his parents for being different in any way. That kind of treatment in early childhood can be nearly impossible to fully recover from. And let's not forget that even his friends undermine his career, a huge part of his identity, for most of the show. That takes a toll on a person. It's really great to see that he and Monica don't let their childhood ruin their relationship with each other.
Potato Girl I love your comment! I always thought Ross was too good for the other friends. He’s a cultured, intelligent, successful academic with a PhD and his dumb, tasteless friends ridicule him for it. Rachel was too shallow and self-centered for him.
Honestly... Ross would come to them for advice on his career and they would just joke around.
very true. Ross was only the favorite because and when we acted the way they wanted. He put quite a bit of effort into getting his parents approval. When he messed up, in their eyes, they were usually quite cruel about it.
Me and my friends always make fun of each other but that's what makes us friends. Hell, I make fun of myself for stupid things.
Sure it’s easy to make fun of yourself when you don’t take yourself too seriously. Ross clearly took himself way too seriously. Also Ross was clearly the golden child growing up and poor Monica was the scapegoat.
The editing. The script. The actual analysis instead of a bs top ten list. The woman's voice. The fact that you guys actually read the comments. Damn. Just damn. I've loved friends since i was born and that's what drew me to your channel but im staying for all of it. So good. Yes. Thank you times a million for existing.
Feeling the same here. love from Brazil
Yeah. They're really great.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you so much for this channel. I absolutely love your videos!
Yeah but some of their videos can just be so mean.
Their parents are totally horrible people. The way the mother treats monica, the way their dad questions his masculinity because he loves playing with a dinosaur? No wonder the geller siblings grew up like that.
Though i must say, with all those flaws their lives turned out pretty well in the end. Hell my parents are great yet I'm still waiting for a semblance of a relationship like what monica and chandler had.
Yo their Dad is a G is love his dialogue
Rael man play car, not dinosar 😡😡
I think Ross is justified how agressive he is against Carol and Susan. If Carol had cheated with a man and then had the man be theirs child’s father and not just step father nobody would require him to be understanding. I think his frustration and insecurity in large part stem form other people not seeing what happened form his perspective.
I agree, he did say someone else's name at a wedding but I do agree about his perspective with carol and Susan
Agreed
Agree but he focuses too much on the lesbian part and not at all the cheating part. That feels weird.
NO he talked about the cheat but in some way the lesbian part would hurt more, you feel that they LIED to you for years, she was pulling away form him for mouth, he did nothing wrong think about how that would hurt.
and then you find out she gay and cheating, you ask your self did she ever love me, how long was she lieing,
Agreed
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What did you mean when you said pivot?
I read it with his voice.
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@@swen3628 LOL
The only thing Ross loves more than romantic idealism is divorces....and having a break with Rachel.
Vicente Ortega Rubilar And Dinasours, Don’t forget the dinasours.
Vicente Ortega Rubilar lol
This doesn't make sense. He never wanted any of his divorces and tried his best to work it out.
and his sandwich
They were on a break!
we want one about ,the most important character, JANİCE
OH MY GOOOOOAAAHD
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Janice deserves better squad 2k18
You got your wish!!!
I’ve always felt bad for Ross. His parents expected too much of him so when he failed he felt terrible about himself, all of his friends made fun of his job, which he loved a lot, his first wife went behind his back and cheated on him with someone else and didn’t even bother to tell him the truth, Carol and Susan got to have full custody (basically) of Ben, and he just wanted to start a happy family. He was treated badly throughout the show. I think the only person who really understood him was Phoebe.
I’m kinda late but I agree completely. Ross was probably the most tormented friend (Chandler a close second), and all the other friends made it seem like they were too good for him. Carol not only cheated on him, but lied about her sexuality for who knows how long, and then acted like a complete bitch afterwards. I hate how characters like Phoebe, and Joey can act horribly and get away with it because “They don’t know any better.”
exactly.
Carol never went behind his back. She didn't know she was a lesbian and it was Ross who suggested the 3 some. He was THERE. She left upon finding out her own sexuality. But, I'm sure Carol's trauma of denying who she is to fit into a world where it's not ok to be who she is and her family rejects her doesn't compare to Ross having a family who loves him. There's no reason for Ross to have custody. A baby needs his mom and a 2 parent household will always be better than 1. There was no point where Ross was denied seeing his kid nor did he want custody.
@@xejelah no, a child needs a mother and a father....a woman can't get pregnant without a man, that's just the way it is! Also, as Carol herself not knowing she was a lesbian, from what I'm told, they are born that way and have always known they are homosexual. So yes, she would have had to have lied about being straight
@@carinnovick2995 you are born that way but sometimes it does take a long time to figure it out, esp if you're raised really religiously or in an environment where it's drilled into you that being gay isn't normal or ok
This is fantastic. I love how you went deeper into his misogynistic views, most people only see that. But they don’t realize what Ross went through and why he makes many mistakes. This really did see the good side of Ross. I love his little tifs with Phoebe because they are really different but they still love one another. He really does grow throughout. Just like the rest of the characters. I love this video.
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I never thought he was misogynist. Terrible at relationships - yes. Maybe insecure with his masculinity. well maybe. Maybe a guy who was centre of all the jokes that how his wife 'turned gay' after marrying him, let alone nobody acknowledging the fact that she cheated while he was so invested in the marriage. So yes, maybe he was all those things. But he loved his sister, his friends and cared about his girlfriends. I never saw anything misogynistic there. It's funny how people nowadays just throw some random trendy words here and there
@@almightyguy3987 I agree.
@@almightyguy3987 That word has lost all of it's meaning due to overuse. Basically any criticism of any woman is termed misogynistic these days. I am literally Ross right now, the same insecurity, the same trauma from relationship with my parents, also the same intelligence, and similar profession ( I'm a Mechanical Engineering student ), and even I'm a hopeless romantic. Basically I have a crush on a girl in my college, and I have dreamt my entire future with her, and we are in the same friend circle. I have a hope for promising future, and I do want a relationship with a caring and kind girl, but I just can't get myself to date, as it could be a possible distraction and point of singularity in my later life. I don't want to be the anxious Ross betrayed by my Carol, and so I feel fearful of any relationship right now.
@@mechanicalengineerturbo I've been there. No matter how hard you try life seems to be, well, not going anywhere, stagnant. For me, most frustrating was to digest the fact that a big chunk of my life was unproductive. A well settled life was a distant dream (it still is, to some extent). It would have been nice to have someone to hold my hands but I was alone. But you know what, life sorts these problems out by itself. Just hang in there, it will get better. Every relationship will be re-established and you will find new ones too. It was same for me. It's same for everyone I guess.
David Schwimmer was definitely the best actor on the show.
Eh I feel like it's Lisa Kudrow she may have played dumb Phoebe when David even admits she's probably the smartest one of the whole six
Nope, Lisa Kudrow was the most talented actor in the show. As all of her co-stars have said: _"It takes someone incredibly smart to play someone incredibly stupid."_
Also, Lisa was the first actor in the show to win an Emmy Award for favorite comedic actress, thanks to her role of Phoebe playing the surrogate mother to the triplets of her brother and older girlfriend.
Lisa Kudrow is the best, followed by Jennifer Aniston.
Yeah, no contest
Funny how Friends became Box Office Poison for all of its over paid actors.
Ross is a good person.
The things that he did for Carol, even when she cheated on him!.
Or the way he always support phoebe, even when they were so different.
Or how he always protected Monica.
He always was there for Joey and Chandler.
Ross it was just real, not bad, just real.
His flaws it wasn't worst than any other person. It was just his flaws
I wouldn’t call Ross a good person, but I wouldn’t go as far as too say that he’s a bad person. A bad person is someone who does horrible things on purpose without recourse, which Ross obviously doesn’t do.
Ross isn’t much butter, nor is he worse than the other protagonists of Friends, particularly Rachel
@@kva9786 Ross is a good person. How much more good can he be?
I think all of the friends are "good" people, but they still do crummy things. Carol didn't cheat on Ross - he's the one who wanted the 3 some. Susan didn't want anything to do with him, he got bored being with Carol, then bored of watching them. You can't watch a man propose a 3 some and then claim his wife "cheated". She found out she was gay and left.
@@xejelah whaaattt?
Carol cheated Ross way before that
She was with Susan in the same gym, and there, the fell in love.
And making a 3 some it's no excuse
Because it was just that, they didn't make an arrangement of having an open relationship. He did that to save their marriage even!!
Ross has good sides, he's genuinely a good friend and a good brother for Monica, which is sweet considering the parenting favoritism. However, it's hard to get over how problematic he is. He's a good friend but terrible relationship material. If it weren't for fan service, I don't think he would have ended up with Rachel, they still had ridiculous arguments and possessive/jealousy issues right until the end. They kept bringing the worst in each other in all fairness.
Most of the show is fan service, you think those two ending up was a one-time thing? It was fan-service to make them unrealistically fight a lot in the first place, so saying something is fan service is moot at best.
he was the best character and the best actor idc what anyone says
zack totally agree Ross is the funniest and David is the best actor.
I agree. Like you said he is a good friend (he gave dream bike to phoebe) but his problem is never work about his first marriage. I think Ross failed her relaship because he try to simulate his first marriage. I think he is still love with Carol but he never move on from it because Carol was lesbian so they never have true conclusion. Plus the fact he is golden child he never learn to handle his emotions and empaty. In every case I don't like for one motivation ;he stole from hotels, that I worked for 4 years like cleaner and it is annoying to relocate the staff becouse people are greed
Sifya Its not ok by stealing items from hotels but when they rip you off for with a bunch of hidden fees and relocate you into a larger suite just to make you pay more than I would definitely be pissed off. Stealing is justified in those situations.
I think the best scene to understand Ross 's character is when Ross and PHOEBE are talking in the hospital after Emma was born . Ross is so scared to confess his feelings to Rachel because they could break up again,hurt each other again,he is not even thinking in himself,he is so much more scared for Emma. Anyway,great video
I am holding my breath for phoebe and joey’s video
Same here :)
Yes please!!
people, please breathe, nobody likes a grey commenter.
Unfortunately, Phoebe and Joey are the least realistically human characters (and the ones with the least business living in The Village in Giuliani's New York).
They are REALLY funny characters, but that's part of their one-dimensionality.
LOL :P
He's the one who doesn't have to speak to be funny
Janice
Yass!
Agreed
Chandler
IMO the most hilarious parts of the show where, when Ross got into really embarrassing or uncomfortable situations. The Mississippi -tan, the leather pants, overly white teeth, trying to make out with his cousin, finding out that Rachel was pregnant (and trying to explain to her father that he was not going to marry Rachel, after she got pregnant) etc. Many people say that Chandler or Joey was the funny one, but I think it really was Ross.
Don't know how people judge Ross as a character, personally, I loved him. And David Schwimmer is hands down, the best actor on the show.
Ross did a lot of stupid things but he was also such a sweet, caring person and super adorable :)
I love him some of the funniest moments on the show are easily accounted to him
@@zaritomaz975 Sure. All the other characters are assholes sometimes, but for some reason, people usually just hate Ross.
Yeah, I am like kind of annoyed by Ross from time to time, more than the other characters. They all suffer from toxic masculinity, but I think Ross is the one that most acts on it (ben playing with a barbie and the male nanny). Although I think his actions are completely justified by toxic youth experiences and ongoing teasing about femininity. Also he is kind of selfabsorbed from time to time. I think the "we were on a break"-thing was also more fair on his side, but he should've read the letter that Rachel wrote. Yes, it was long, yes, it was in the middle of the night, but I think it's also completely justified that Rachel got the idea that Ross didn't really want to work for their relationship. Yes, he is caring and thoughtful, but think about the times that he didn't care to stuck up to his parents when they treated Monica unfairly.
I think he is not really great, but I also feel bad for him. He got shit in his youth and toxic masculinity, which didn't really improve during his character development.
Ofcourse this is my opinion and vision on it all. If you want correct me if you think I'm wrong
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It'll be amazing to see gunther analysed. Although the video will most probably be a short one.
I'd love to see one on Janice!
I love both of these ideas! Maybe Mike as well, I loved him
Yeah and one for Alec Baldwin's character. Remember? From that ONE episode?
yeah but that's way too much less content for an analysis i think.....but hey i always want to click a mental picture now. CLICK! XD
definitely!
Finally a channel that giving Ross a break. No one is perfect. Other channels would just say that he is toxic.
I don't think any of the friends are toxic. Good people still pull crap. That's a part of being human. However, whenever people find someone they identify with they tend to look at them with rose colored glasses and ignore the bad like it didn't happen or doesn't mean anything. That's what's truly toxic. The "friends" call each other out on their crap too.
I just recently started rewatching FRIENDS and it's just my luck that you guys started making this video series at the same time. Rewatching the show as an adult has already given me a new perspective and appreciation of the characters but your videos are just the cherry on top. You really make me love the friends even more and your videos are really pulling at my heartstrings there
These videos are so amazing!! This one emulated exactly why I love Ross and what I try to tell those who seem to dislike him, thank you!
I'm always crying at the end...these Friends screen prism episodes are so heart warming ;__;
You forget that when Ross was trying to move on from Rachel. Mosly in the early seasons, Rachel ends up being jealous and want to be with Ross. She starts being mopy and sad about it then all the other friends start joining her side. It is very destructive and alienateing for Ross's partners. If it wasn't for Rachel, Ross would properly would of moved on with Emily.
Joey X Smith I agree, that’s an incredibly astute observation. I would have hated to be Julie, Bonnie, or Emily. They seemed like great girls and Ross seemed so genuinely happy with them.
What I don't get was when Ross said the wrong name at Emily and his wedding. Why would Emily agree to continue the wedding?
Like who would continue a wedding after your partner saying an ex's name.
I always felt bad for Julie
I actually really loved Julie. She was beautiful, intelligent and sweet. I hated how Rachel treated her just because she was jealous. Jealousy doesn’t look good on anyone
not truth at all, he never loved Emily. Rachel didn't get to tell him she loved him before the wedding day, she went there and said "Good Luck", and he said her name at the altar even though she did not went on to confess her love for him. Also, she started to love him right after her clueless self were told he was in love with her, by Chandler, while he was in China. So when she fell in love with him, she did not know he was already with Julie. She met Julie after feeling in love with him. He never cared about Mona, neither to Bonnie, he was a terrible boyfriend to them and ultimately broke up the relationships on his own "destructive and alienating" behaviours, not Rachel's. In fact Rachel did NOTHING about them, she was pairing with other men or happily alone when he was with them. And, she even went on to support him and help him with some girls along the seasons when they were set as only friends,
remember how she helped him shop clothes for dating, or that amazing nice thing she did for the Pizza girl he was flirting with? Rachel secretly ran to her and gave her his number and told her how amazing of a guy he was so he can have a shot. She was an amazing friend. You should check the Take on Rachel, the Real protagonist video, and try to understand why she could not be with him for so long even thought she loved him very much. She was not wrong at all.
I’m so glad that you guys have the nuance to analyze WHY Ross acts the way he does and show empathy for him, while not excusing his behavior
My sandwich??.....MYYYY SANDWICH!!!
Blackarrot
This is fantastic. I love how you went deeper into his misogynistic views, most people only see that. But they don’t realize what Ross went through and why he makes many mistakes. This really did see the good side of Ross. I love his little tifs with Phoebe because they are really different but they still love one another. He really does grow throughout. Just like the rest of the characters. I love this video.
@@kymaragill915 what??
ross is the most underrated character IMO. people don’t realize all the shit he’s gone through throughout the series and i think that’s why he’s done a lot of the things he did throughout the series.
and i think in the ross is too egotistical to get back with rachel argument, rachel couldn’t compromise either so why should it all go on ross?
+doh B agreed.
Love these Friends videos! I've always thought Ross was the funniest character on the show, but at times difficult to sympathize with when he acts super irrationally. But this video pointed out some stuff that I never thought about (like his similarities to Monica). Can't wait for the Phoebe and Joey ones!
Oh my gosh I freaking love this break out of Ross !he has always been one of my favorite characters ,I think my favorite character but it is so amazing how you guys broke down his characteristics and his flaws and showing as he’s progressed as a character , it’s really is Fascinating, great job as always!!! Can’t wait to the next one with you guys should do for your next one a breakdown of new girl characters!
j michelle or joey!!!
Chandler was my favorite character. His *journey* was the biggest. Coming from a guy who was afraid to commit in serious relationships and hiding his uncomfortable attitude and insecurity towards women with sarcasm and jokes. Then he was turning into this guy who was capable of doing opposite of everything in the above. Becoming a loving husband, father and having a career in a job that he loves. Also his growth was just the biggest and most consistent over the ten season run.
You do have to *admit* that Ross's character was great since the very first episode, similar to that of Joey's, but the writers were deconstructing his character too much by forcing him to go through all these divorces and failed relationships that was basically holding back any mature growth for him to succeed. Nevertheless, the final episode was fully *justified* with him ending up with Rachel for good. They were meant to be.
"And wherever you fall on the 'if they were on a break' question, it's still a dumb thing to do if you want things to work out."
THANK YOU!!! It doesn't matter if they were on break or not, Ross just simply wasn't ready to be in a relationship. He really was the most flawed character in the show and I really liked him in the first couple of seasons. He really does become more and more of a mess as the show goes on, but he does grow.
Doesn’t the same go for Rachel, then? So, they were both not ready to be in a relationship.
he's definitely not the most flawed. rachel is most definitely the most flawed in the group
I think this video romanticizes the Ross/Rachel couple a little bit... putting aside the fact that the relationship brought out the WORSE aspects of Ross's personality along with the good (like his paranoia, jealousy, insecurity and control issues, which yeah are a part of all his relationships in general because of his issues but are especially prominent with rachel) there's the simple fact that they just don't really gel together well. They have zero common interests or anything unique about their interactions other than 'generic couple', they don't bring the best in each other (like Chandler and Monica do) and they have waaay too many arguments and drama, sometimes it feels like they spent 50% of their time together being unhappy and breaking up.
imo the healthiest relationship they had was raising Emma while still being completely platonic friends, so I was disappointed they ended up together eventually, it felt like a step backwards for their character development
(that being said I still love Ross to bits lmao. David Schwimmer was the best and funniest actor of the whole group)
doh B lmao yikes buddy I definitely wouldn't call Rachel bitchy or slutty, wtf. Sure they both had problems and had to grow up, but my point is Ross had some really ugly behaviours whenever they were a couple. He's the one that got obsessively jealous (and arguably even cheated on her so shouldn't HE be the one who's actually slutty lol??)
doh B oh true I'm not saying Ross is a bad person for having issues or that it was all his fault. Just that Ross and Rachel didn't help each other grow whenever they were together, and they were better people when they were just friends
I agree with you, being in a relationship that makes you uncomfortable is not healthy, especially if you perpetually need to be breaking up.
I think the show itself romanticizes their relationship big time, so it's not surprising that an analysis of their actions on the show would do similar... especially on a video about Ross, who is in fact, a hopeless romantic. Whether or not their relationship was perfect, it's still the main plotline for both of them from the beginning to the end of the show.
Kat B but that’s what they were like before because they both had deep rooted issues that they needed to overcome separately but once they’ve fixed them they truly are a good couple in my opinion
I always love these videos because they usually point out so many things I never noticed and allow me to appreciate a character/something more. Thank you, Screenprism
Great analysis on an often misunderstood character. I’ll be the first to point out Ross’s flaws, but they don’t make him a bad person.
Glad you did Ross❤️❤️. He’s underrated.
4 words1 1letters I know right people hate him and I don’t get it
I don’t care why anyone says, he’s my favorite friend, I was itching for this video!
jackie same
yes me too
jackie me too I hate the hate he gets
It’s too hard to hate him because he’s too funny!!!
Gosh I love this series so much. When I was younger, Friends was purely comedy for me. I'm now in my twenties and have just rewatched the series again and have a new found appreciation for it and love the way it treats the ups and downs of young adult life through characters with flaws, quirks and unique upbringings. I respect that you've taken the time out to analyse each character and give us a completely different perspective to what they're normally know for (Monica- obsessive, Ross- goofy, Joey- dumb, phoebe- quirky etc). Looking forwards to what you say about Joey, I've always thought he was one of the most loyal, caring friends but had the worst character progression written for him. New subscriber!
It really saddens me to see Ross portrayed so negatively. I feel like his friends didn’t help him at all through his issues.
Considering most of issues were control based, I'd say they did. Ross didn't get anything he hasn't dished out. He's taken jabs at all of them the same. I'd say the video portrayed him accurately, it showed the good and the bad. This is about Ross, not showing all the times the friends help him.
@@xejelah I made this comment when I was young and dumb so I def agree with this take now 😅
Phoebe better be a long vid. Shes so underrated but is actually the funniest alongside Chandler.
Tom Rake Bluer they’re my favourites
Define underrated
no shes not she's just weird and dumb
Along with Ross
I can't even imagine so many people hate Ross....I mean Ross has most lines and screen time along with Rachel...If he wasn't in the show....We wouldn't have got-
1) Unagi.
2) Pivot
3)We were on a break.
4)I'm Fine
5) When he found out Rachel is pregnant,etc.
He was the king of Expressions and the most funniest character along with Miss Chanandler Bong.....
He will always remain my favorite character
I love how you analyze each character! I love your channel
Even that guy in the plane said they were clearly on a break... You know..that Hugh Laurie's cameo.
I love the character of Ross because he’s kind, intelligent, and usually tries to take the high road. He constantly needs to prove he’s right because he IS right. On the other hand, he’s the embodiment of repression and perfectionism. He suppresses a lot of emotions in order to do the responsible thing instead of working through them organically.
On another note, I wonder WHY he fell in love with Rachel as a high schooler in the first place. They clearly had nothing in common, and it seems like he just liked her because she was hot and popular. That’s a pretty shallow reason to put someone on a pedestal.
hollywoodshopaholic having nothing in common is one of the best things about being in a relationship. You’re able to discover and adapt to the new changes that your partner offers that you never really cared for. It’s thrilling, I find it boring when you’re with someone who enjoys everything you do. I rather grow with someone and create memories that you never thought would happen and grow fond of. Ofc everyone has their own idea of a perfect relationship. I guess that’s why I love Ross and Rachel, their relationship wasn’t perfect and it had so many ups and downs and that’s how relationships are in real life. Though I do wish the writers didn’t make Ross and Rachel go through so much to get to the conclusion. Especially since they wanted Ross to originally go to Paris and fall in love with Rachel again, I rather see that then that whole Joey and Rachel thing.
okay i take issue with the whole "ross cant handle rachel having a career". first of all, mark ADMITTED he was trying to get with rachel. so thats not paranoia as much as hyperawareness (unagi as ross would put it). he knew something was up and as soon as ross and rachel broke up mark made a pass at rachel. ross was fine with her having a career but rachel was neglectful of him. if the tables were turned and ross was spending a lot of time with a female colleague who was clearly attracted to him and he kicked rachel out of his job and proceeded to have dinner with the female colleague on his anniversary rachel wouldve been just as right to dump him.
secondly, rachel was neglecting their relationship. according to ross they were having a relationship over the answering machine and rachels only defense was "i like my job! im good at it." she didnt deny that ross was telling the truth. ross also loves his job but he makes time to be a caring boyfriend and rachel simply doesnt do the same for him. ross is right to be upset especially when mark shows up at rachels apartment and she doesnt kick him out the way she kicked out ross from her job. if she was going to draw a line for her personal and work life she needs to enforce it on both ends but she didn't do that with mark and that was highly inappropriate. she was literally having dinner with another man on HER ANNIVERSARY WITH ROSS!
YASSS finally some common sense! People online try to turn this into a feminist issue when it’s not.
Thank you. That's exactly what my point is
@@hollywoodshopaholic agreed
Even Chandler and Joey knew about Mark's intentions.
EXACTLY THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU PUT MY THOUGHTS INTO WORDS AND I LOVE IT. I hate when people hate on ross like STOP
Ross's expressions are always on point.
Not only when he's delivering dialogues, but also when he's in background.
I probably have enough in common with Ross for this to count as a therapy session.
Though I've overcome the need to "prove" my masculinity, his struggle still hits close to home.
This video has also given me a lot to think about when it comes to my own less than stellar love life.
So thank you for another great video. It has been a wonderful journey of nostalgia and self-discovery.
I always kinda hated Ross as a character cos he was really whiny and entitled and had offensive hang-ups about gender and sexuality. I don't think his 'unrequited love' for Rachel made him more sympathetic - if anything, it made him more shallow and creepy, because he was obsessed with a girl for decades sheerly because of how she looked. It's not like they had a single thing in common.
But God do I love Mental Geller.
entertain7us14 if you’re first marriage ended the way his did you’d be a bit neurotic about stuff too.
Hahaha what a conundrum, you cannot kinda hate Ross and love Mental Geller
they are both the same
I think all three men have severe hang ups about their masculinity...especially chandler. It has always puzzled me how everyone thinks Ross is the only one like this
red stark
Very true. It was one of the reasons I loved the show. None of the guys were really a catch to be fair
This comment is like, the exact opposite of what the video was trying to express... lol
Ignored every point they made, and just clung to your viewpoint. You never had any intention of giving it a fair chance. I'd be scared to be your friend and not be perfect.
Another great video ScreenPrism. The series on Friends is amazing.
Man... You guys must study hard to analyze each of this character so nicely... Good job again... But anyhow like they say God works in mysterious ways... Ross wished to have a perfect relationship with Rachel and he did with so much experience and acceptance of imperfect things
4mfun2enjoy Did you mean mysterious ways?
Mikayla Eckel Cifrese lol yes... Thanks for correcting me... I knew I was saying something wrong there
Can wait for Phoebe :D
zotharr yess please do phoebe
I've always felt that people haven't appreciated or talked about Ross's issues and character as much as Chandler is talked about even though Ross does have a lot of issues as mentioned in the video. I'm so glad I found this piece.
love you guys!!!!! p.s the pivot part was brilliantly edited into the video.
Ross was pitiful and pathetic but he had the most funniest scenes so it's hard to hate him.
Miss shah Right 😂 Who can forget the leather pants, teeth whitening, spray tan and I’M FINE 🤣
Yes!! Exactly
Angelo Harley Wow how is that possible 😂😂 PIVOOOT!
He had flaws just like every character on the show
@@tvl9193 and sandwich
I think the biggest indication of his growth as a person, was him giving his blessing to Rachel in the end, to go to Paris. He was completely supportive once he realized that it was what she wanted. This is such a change from how it was when she started out her career and he felt that it was taking her away from him.
But then he switched right back again :(( making her stay and stopped her dream from coming true
And Ross giving blessings to joey to pursue Rachel twice
AHHH and only a week after the last episode!! LOVE LOVE LOVE it! Please keep it up!
I don't know why everyone hates Ross so much. Yeah, he's kind of an asshole, but they all are in their own ways... And everyone always mocks him in the show soooo
And he's so insecure it makes me feel bad for him, because none of his friends tries to help him with these insecurities
JCV he’s honestly the realest character, the one that will say or do what needs to be done, no matter the consequences.
IamMcLovin except when he doesnt tell rachel about not getting an annulment
Alejandro Garcia oh yeah, was that before or after rachel admitted to being the one in fault in that. You must be a woman if i’m not mistaken.
IamMcLovin why are u so triggered??? i was merely pointing that out. And Im not a woman, IF IM NOT MISTAKEN...
This is the kind of video ive been waiting for omg. I keep hearing people talk shit about Ross without understanding what causes is behavior in the first place. People are always quick to forget all the good things he's done in the show
Can't wait for Phoebe and Joey!!
I love all these friend analysis. Friends was the first show I ever enjoyed that wasn't a kid's show. And character analysis is my favourite kind of analysis!
I love this channel! Great analysis, I love how Ross grows towards the end, he even starts laughing at himself which is great character development. I can’t wait for one on Phoebe!😄
These are so awesome. Debra and Sussanah can you girls do Scrubs!?!? That show has just as much heart and character flaws as friends. PLEASE!!
YESSSS
DemiRonin yes!!!
HELL YEAH! scrubs is AWESOME!
YES PLEASE DO SCRUBS
Puh-pleeeaaaaaassssseeeee! Pretty please!
The analysis in this series is brilliant... Can't wait to see Joey and Phoebe 😊
I never really appreciated the fact to how well they disguised deep/hard hitting lines as jokes.
Ross talking to the male nanny about him not acting like a “real boy” kinda just went over my head, and I never really took it in until this video explained it in detail
I think the whole Ross making fun of lesbians is an interesting subject. I really don't think he was making fun of lesbians, I think he was mostly trying to make fun of Susan because of the grudge he holds against her, because even though he's not in love with Carol anymore he still loves her so it's easier to take it out on the other person. But still, when it really matters, he's there for them. We see him learning to co-parent not only with his exwife but also with her new wife. Nowadays a lot of this stuff, especially on TV, ends in custody issues. Let's not forget it was the 90's, the LGBT community was not so outspoken and present in media as now. At the same time, people had a thicker skin. He makes comments to his friends. I do that all the time, we all have those characteristics the others are mean about, in private, with people we know and love and trust. If Ross didn't trust Susan, would he leave his child with her so easily?
On a more personal note, I never liked how they all made fun of his job and I get his frustration with it. As a person who's trying to get a scientific PhD, I get how difficult it is to make your friends and family appreciate this. Half of them think is boring shit or don't have the patience or will to try to understand it, the other half may acknowledge that it's worthy but don't get how a person can be so passionate about it as you have to be to do the kind of sacrifices you do for a PhD. Funniest thing, other characters in Friends do those sacrifices, but for some reason they're not made fun of. Maybe Ross's job is Susan's homosexuality. I don't know, he almost never was my favorite character (except when he went full science, cause he nailed it, especially when admitting to Phoebe that nothing he knows is 100% sure, that's probably one of the basis of certain sciences, like biology. If we talk about physics that could change) but I didn't hate them as much as other people. I understood, even as young as I was, why he was the way he was, and I accepted that, as a person, he was as valid and real as any of the other Friends.
Ross never made fun of his wife being a lesbian
i'm so happy you guys are analyzing the whole Friends squad. they are all so in depth.
I understand where people come from when they dislike him,but its so annoying when they say «hes the worst” and call him a homophobe and stuff when all the friends clearly had many problematic beliefs.Even chandler,everyones favourite,had said and done many bad things but hes forgiven in contrast to ross.Yes ,ross has many flaws, but i like that about him and i find him extremely funny and under appreciated
Exactly! Everyone seems to have their blinders on when it comes to criticising the other friend's problematic aspects but dogpile on ross because it's easy to. Candler's treatment of his father always rubbed me the wrong way and the way he dealt with his problems in relationships was childish and shitty. Joe's attitude towards his sister getting pregnant shows how possessive men can be with sisters/relatives who are female. All friends have this weird attitude towards feminine aspects in men and the men perpetuate that in return. if you're going to criticise this show from a modern aspect than apply it to all characters.
Wow, a great analysis on what makes Ross such an interesting characters!! Would you guys ever consider doing something similar to this for How I met Your Mother?
Samy do a Ted video if you're real
good idea
ted the real antagonist
omg yes ted is the worst
how i met your mother, scrubs and friends are my favorite romantic sitcoms!
imo ted is waaaay better than ross.. at least he didn't get divorced 3 times lol
I was really interested to see how you were going to interpret his character. I was always surprised that Ross, with so many of his flaws, seems to have the most significant romantic relationships out of all the friends (characterizing significant relationships as lasting more than one or two episodes). I'm looking forward to your analysis of Joey. As much as he tends to be remembered by being kind of dumb and being good with women, I've honestly always thought of him as the most emotionally generous and forgiving of all the friends when it really counts.
I agree! While Joey's probably the least intelligent character out of the six of them, I've really come to think of him as having the biggest heart, and being the most loving character on the show. :)
He is still my favourite character.
The friend who loves too much, haha I love the title. PS. Wow I never realise Ross has so many problems, about insecure and jealousy and childhood, until I watch this video. You are right ! How come I never notice these problems.
Akabubi for me I don’t notice these subtleties in Friends because they’re spelled out so slowly over the course of a series, and often serious issues are portrayed alongside a laugh-track, such as Ross being shamed for playing with “girl stuff” as a kid. Granted I’ve only been through the series once, but it makes a lot of sense that Ross being neurotic and intolerant a lot of the time is a natural coping mechanism for a life of shame and failure. It’s certainly NOT an excuse, I’m still not a Ross fan, but it makes him a more interesting character.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this series. I’m actually waiting for it every week. Once this is finished maybe do Sex and the City ???
You guessed it :)
ScreenPrism i just saw this reply and screamed so loud ❤️❤️❤️
Are you really gonna do Sex and the City?
Cause yay!!!
I think a good subject for Joey's video would be how difficult it is for him to acept change. He acts as if everything in his life was falling apart when his friends start to settle down. He is the one who ended where he started. Even if he never wanted things to change to begin with.
Well done for actually nailing the character of Ross! So, so many people online only see the one side of Ross and berate him for being possessive, controlling and jealous without seeing underlying reasons why, how he admits to these flaws and how he works to overcome them.
David Shwimmer was the best amongst all😍😍
Ross is such a complex character... I love him so much
So the arc conclusion of Ross is that he stops being a "Nice Guy" and actually becomes a nice human being.
I love how you’re making videos on each friend, Rachel, Monica, Chandler, and now Ross. I can’t wait for you to get to Joey and Phoebe.
These videos about Friends always bring a smile to my face. Keep up with the great work!
This was a very tricky video to do. I think Ross used to be my favourite friend, however looking at him from a more detached modern perspective made his character seem a bit mean-spirited at times to me. But you really managed to bring out and contextualise the humanity of his character. These Friends vids are superb wells of empathy.
Love watching these analyses. Great job! Can't wait for Joey and Pheobe's video. 🙈
Sneha Tawate (Chanting) Pheobe next! Phoebe next! PHOEBE NEXT!
You know sometimes I think, even the writers wouldn't have thought of these things as you guys do. You do an amazing job!
We were SUPPOSED to have a love- hate relationship with Ross. Whenever Ross gets into any argument with Phoebe or Susan or whomever, he usually ends up losing, learns his lesson, and becomes a better person after that.
This made me seriously appreciate Ross as a flawed but developed character. Wow, amazing as always screenprism!!!! You guys are my favorite channel on youtube!
I agree that Ross is the best when he's with Rachel! Same with her! They bring out the best of each other but when they aren't together they bring out the worst
Are you gonna do an analysis on each of the Friends characters?? I cannot wait!!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️
(*Me looking around having not watched the video yet "Guess if no one else is saying it...")
"Why doesn't Ross, the largest Friend, simply not eat the others?"
These friends analysis are great! I watch, even a few scenes, everyday!
Ross will always be my favorite character on the show. He's the one who had the most growth mentally and emotionally besides maybe Rachel. And he was put through the ringer at every point, but somehow in the end he made it through. In my eyes he's easily the most sympathetic character in the show
technically the who had the most growth is chandler lol
but he IS the most sympathetic character in the show
doh B lol If I had to pick a least favorite it'd be Rachel.
RedLightning17 Ross is my favourite as well
RedLightning17 Ross literally didn't change at all. He's a horrible human being.
Woooo guys!!
I am totally in love with your channel 😍 please make Joey next 😋
He's a very talented actor ; obviously the best in the show
Ross doesn't love Rachel, he loves an idealised version of Rachel that he can control.
I love how thoughtful these videos are. Would you ever consider doing a similar set of videos on the characters of Frasier?
I've always thought Ross and Monica are quite similar in some ways and I know a lot of people think Monica is bossy but she really just makes a fuss about small things and is resilient when it comes to dealing with real challenges.
Ross, on the other hand, has sort of lived with the illusion that he's completely sorted and he's meant to have a perfect life because his parents were guilty of favouritism. This hurt both their children, but ironically Monica emerged as the stronger one because of that - because she was always the underdog. Ross had to deal with his drive for perfectionism and his deliberate suppression of his feelings.
His journey in the series has been the hardest because we see him start out as an emotional, big hearted person who is later heartbroken and then follow a series of mistakes stemming from his impulsiveness.
What I like about Ross and Rachel's story is that they both had to grow individually apart before they could be together. He becomes her close friend, they look after their child together and they both learn how to love each other while accepting each other's flaws.
I think Ross has been treated unfairly quite a lot of times by Susan and Carol, Rachel and sometimes other people who misjudged him.
The reason he likes to hang out with his sister and friends and the reason why he's eager to live an in apartment across from Monica's apartment is because he is comfortable around his sister and they both look out for each other. He IS right on several occasions and he cares about his friends, but his rigidity and obsession with masculinity can sometimes hurt him.
I feel that Ross was the character from whom we saw the least character development... Regrettably, his final reunion with Rachel was so rushed out that we didn't get to see Ross exhibit any real change from his self-centredness, and Rachel's having to give up something important just to be with Ross again certainly didn't look good on him. Ross didn't get his chance to be selfless in love for a change.
Which is a pity. I like Ross, I just wish we see more of him outgrowing some of his behavioural patterns.
I actually think it's almost the opposite. At the start of thé series, Ross is the most adjusted of the group having a steady job and "happily" married. He actually regressed when his world shatters and spent the whole show to get his life back on track
I would like a analizys about how the type of person and decisions that took Rachel affected Ross. I noticed that you didnt touch the time where Ross was happy with the no-bald girl until Rachel got in the middle, even Phoeby had to tell her "I don't get it, you dont want him to be happy?". And after that she makes all this thing about the letter at 5 am, after him spent some difficult emotional hours breaking out with his gf and forcing him to accept all "blame" in a very complex situation. I think both of them are guided for ideas that were turning old in that time, like how great was the popular girl for date the nerd (notice how Leonard from the TBBT have the same problems than Ross, both are guys that gives all to his gf but in the second they present an aspect the gfs dont like the guys feelings are tagged as bad [like when the musician friend of Penny wanted to stay at her house]). Rachel want to become what she become at the end of the series but she started her life being a future"wife", a pretty face that will go shopping with her husband money. Deep down she had a sexist expectation about the men that want to date with her, basically she want them to be like her father (a doctor [status], money and full of masculinity). And is "funny" because Ross and Rachel start with old fashion visions about relashosips and learn to overcome this to be toghether. I think that over time they have to keep growing but i think that is also posible that they turn into a marriage like their parents, maybe more the Gellers way that the Greens. (Note: notice how Rachel, Monica and Ross have all this similar problems about marriage because they are all from the same social circle, they all growing up seen the women being stay at home mothers that live very well thanks to high status and "macho" husbands. Marriage Is a obsetion for both Gellers. And Monica and Rachel were pointing for the same "wife life", but as Monica was a awkard and fat girl that need external validation and Rachel was a popular girl tha wanted self aproval their ways turned very different one from the other). I know my english sucks in this comment, i don't have energy to check it.
Ur over analyzing too much, not that deep
I liked reading this, thanks for sharing your perspective
I honestly wish I had a friend like Ross. I feel like people mistake loyalty for jealousy or something
YESSS LOVE THESE
No matter what Ross is always my fav character on friends 💜
You guys should have at least 4 mil subs. I showed my friend this analysis and he never even watched friends and enjoyed it, even subbed.
This should have been called “Ross, The Realest Character”