Wow! Manufacturers are sure freshening up this category. I'm not even into scooters and I want an X-ADV! It's great to see designers pushing the boundaries. When my poor old bones can't hold up my DesertX anymore, I know what i'm getting.
What I hate about some of the higher cc scooters now is that some manufacturers use chains instead of cvt's. I am looking at you honda, getting the engine of the NC 750 and strapping it in a scooter body and then calling it a day. Heck if I'm buying a scooter. I could live with the power loss from the cvt, what I cannot live about is cleaning and lubing the damn chain every XXX miles or every few week/s. Whereas the cvt you just gas and go, no need for cleaning nor lube, then just replace the belt at about 15-30k miles depending on the model and how you ride.
Among scooters the Tmax tech is the greatest in technology update! The Tmax is also very efficient, very practical! I am a die hard fan of the Tmax tech range, I've had the 2008 model, 2021, 2022-2023. The Tmax tech is so reliable, and so easy to maintain!
Scooters are Cool 😎...we need some Bigger Cc bikes here in 🇺🇸 America I love my Suzuki Burgman 400 but I would love a 750 or 600 cc Scooter to add to my collection
Scooters kept the peace at my house 30 years ago when I was buying and riding open class sport bikes. I got several for family riding and my wife and son loved them. Me, too! It was an easy pleasant time… buzzing around town on our Honda 250’s while wearing street clothes. She then couldn’t complain about me taking time for scorching thru the mountains with the guys.🤐 Now, these bigger beasts (relatively) look to open a new city/touring class, even for us otherwise from-the-sofa seniors.❤️🔥
still can't understand why monoshock swing arm is only for the 500+cc maxiscotters... for the price and overall improvement it should be in the 300+cc maxiscooters
Bravo 4 this video, lots tiime u spent for sure. just one thing: U didnt give more info : How many cc, max speed. Anyhow my last bike was Yamaha Majesty 400cc. First scooter was Solex with engine on the front wheel. After 4 grandkidz Istoped. One thing is true: Best time I had on the sadle of motorbikes. That feeling u can't compare with anything.
Because the Yamaha es unique and does not have competition. Forza and XADV have a twin cylinder engine with double clutch gearbox and this engine and transmission are both shared with other Honda models (bikes).Those scooters are bikes with scooter envelope, they even have chain drive. The TMax is a super-scooter designed as a scooter and does not share the engine, nor the chassis with another model. The cylinders are completely horizontal (more luggage space under the seat) the transmission is located close to the engine and not close to the rear wheel like most of the scooters. Stability is incredible because the weight is very centered. Finally, this scooter has aluminium frame (less weight) and a legendary reliability. The Yamaha is a real scooter-scooter with advanced engineering and does not have a direct competitor, these are the reasons for its ridiculously high price tag.
@@josevi5835 Your facts are correct but your conclusion is wrong. The TMax is a typical CVT maxi scooter while the XADV and the Forza both have the more complex and more expensive DCT transmission, both also have bigger engine displacements 50% bigger than the TMax.
@@nilobeebee TMax is not the typical CVT transmission scooter. The typical ones have the belt, variator and clutch behind the secondary axle while charging a lot of weight to the rear wheel. The TMax was the first scooter that changed this moving all the transmission system to the center of the bike. Moreover the cost of producing a 750cc engine is similar to the cost of a 550cc one.
@@josevi5835 It's the same CVT on the similarly sized but way lower priced Kymco AK550. But hey, can't do anything much if you insist on your flawed logic. So yeah, whatever floats your boat.
Thanks for the video. Honda and Yamaha still best products. This Peugeot is almost there but looks cheap and is french (200% sure will have quality problem).
Sono stato all'eicma e toccato con mano tutti i prodotti del video...il .peugeot non è male trovo brutto lo scarico sembra un tubo della stufa, il prezzo previsto è decisamente alto parlano di oltre 8000 euro.Yamaha tmax ha un prezzo troppo elevato rispetto ad un Honda Forza 750 mentre l'xmax300 2023 ha gli stessi problemi (ammortizzatori, freno anteriore chiave multifunzione non illuminata, etc.) del modello precedente.....Honda è decisamente avanti
Hai ragione...ma secondo me l'anno un po persa tutti il senso della realtà....16..000 euro per uno scooter pur bello che sia...mi sembra una cosa da pazzi...
@@podunkman2709 Actually the old Forzas before used the basic scooter CVT engine at 300cc displacements. The Forza was a TMax peer together with the Burgmans 7 years ago. TMax is an old model just updating every 2 or 3 years.
Da ex possessore di un xmax300 techmax,ti posso dire che che su questo scooter Yamaha ha solo aggiornato l'estetica e strumentazione lasciando i gravi problemi del modello precedente.....Honda offre,con l'adv 350,più qualità e contenuti.
@@mauriziolagaxio4954 ammortizzatori posteriori ridicoli,vanno in fondo corsa scaricando tutto sulla schiena del pilota e passeggero, disco anteriore inadeguato alle prestazioni dello scooter, forcella anteriore che in piega con avvallamenti stradali va in crisi.....poi vi sono altri difetti,chiave multifunzione con vari impuntamenti e non illuminata,vano sottosella non rivestito e mal illuminato,farò anteriore poco potente,specie in abbagliante......per quello che costa ritengo siano,i primi da me menzionati,gravi problemi....parlo da ex proprietario venduto dopo sei mesi.....il modello nuovo,visto e toccato con mano all'eicma,ha mantenuto gli stessi elementi da me citati.....
@@mauriziolagaxio4954 dipende cosa cerca tra l'uso quotidiano dal tipo di percorso.......urbano,extraurbano;l'xmax300 ha un'ottimo motore, brillante dai consumi molto bassi 32 km/lt ma non vale assolutamente i soldi che costa,le consiglio di provare l'adv350 Honda,costa 100€ meno del "nuovo" xmax300,l'adv ha una forcella anteriore a steli rovesciati e posteriori a corsa lunga a gas della Showa oltre il bauletto keyless,frena come si deve,secondo me è costruito anche meglio del yamaha avuto per sei mesi.....cmq li provi entrambi su strada e tragga le sue conclusioni.
Wow! Manufacturers are sure freshening up this category. I'm not even into scooters and I want an X-ADV! It's great to see designers pushing the boundaries. When my poor old bones can't hold up my DesertX anymore, I know what i'm getting.
Agreed. This category is getting pricier but the product is becoming far more substantial. A $20K moped is hard to wrap my mind around.
WOW HONDA FORZA 750 the most beautiful of all 😍😍
What I hate about some of the higher cc scooters now is that some manufacturers use chains instead of cvt's. I am looking at you honda, getting the engine of the NC 750 and strapping it in a scooter body and then calling it a day.
Heck if I'm buying a scooter. I could live with the power loss from the cvt, what I cannot live about is cleaning and lubing the damn chain every XXX miles or every few week/s.
Whereas the cvt you just gas and go, no need for cleaning nor lube, then just replace the belt at about 15-30k miles depending on the model and how you ride.
Honda X-ADV
Among scooters the Tmax tech is the greatest in technology update! The Tmax is also very efficient, very practical! I am a die hard fan of the Tmax tech range, I've had the 2008 model, 2021, 2022-2023. The Tmax tech is so reliable, and so easy to maintain!
1st XADV 750
2nd XP 400
3rd ADV 350
I prefer KYMCO DT360 the shape.
@@matthew88mo54 no
@@wolfbleue4920 ～That is your opinion only.
@@matthew88mo54 I share Wolf's opinion
xadv wow
16000 euro for a scooter? They deserve to wait 16000 years for a costumer! It can’t be better than a brand new car which costs less money!
*Customer
Indeed it is a lot from France
Я продам такой же скутер за 1600 евро
Самое смешное что в Росии эти цены умножают в два раза.
Kymco DT X360 & Honda ADV 750 ☝️🔥🤘
When it will launch in india?😢😢😢😢😢😢 Please reply 🙏
Vespa! Old school cool..❤
Pede look. Dangerous... small wheels, unpractical... not even space for one helmet, quality crap... rust and other.
Scooters magnifiques wow
Lovely looking machines 👌 😀
Scooters are Cool 😎...we need some Bigger Cc bikes here in 🇺🇸 America I love my Suzuki Burgman 400 but I would love a 750 or 600 cc Scooter to add to my collection
I would love to see the 750 Forza come to the states....
Definitely would be a no brainer to buy one
Scooters kept the peace at my house 30 years ago when I was buying and riding open class sport bikes. I got several for family riding and my wife and son loved them. Me, too! It was an easy pleasant time… buzzing around town on our Honda 250’s while wearing street clothes. She then couldn’t complain about me taking time for scorching thru the mountains with the guys.🤐 Now, these bigger beasts (relatively) look to open a new city/touring class, even for us otherwise from-the-sofa seniors.❤️🔥
Yamaha tmax ❤️
👍👍super💥
desainnya mantap
Nice Scooters. 1st XADV 750 i like it
X-ADV is this old mans dream bike.
Nice! When is the Honda adv coming to the USA?
Peugeot XP 400 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩❤️❤️❤️
Bonjour de la Provence en FRANCE Félicitations Honda bravo
Hello from Israel. The Vespa GTS 300 is my favorite choice. Waiting for my Super Sport 300 - 2023 in gray.
Hello from America 🇺🇸
J’ai acheté cette année, fin juin le SYM Maxsym 508 TL et je ne regrette pas du tout mon achat. Sacré scooter.
Looking beautifull
Sick!
Nice
Xe này đẹp quá ta
wow amazing
Manttaapdan kereen...
Wow I definitely want the first honda one omg
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤super amazing
Wow nice IND
Wowowwo VERY VERY nice 👌👌👌👌😘😘😘
I want to visit Eicma 2023 on 8 Nov, How to buy the ticket? please assist. Thanks
Best
Bener2 yamaha tak ada tanding disenya mantap
Love thenew scooter 's but every one else!
Showroom nya dmna?
A Burgman 400 felett eljárt az idő,nincs benne fantázia .
A Kymco 400 már ütősebb,vagány ,sokkal feltűnőbb,és szép is .
But hard to find in my part of America 🇺🇸
Vive Peugeot 103 😍😍🥰🥰
Le Peugeot est nul mon frère 😂
@@hdidane00 vive Peugeot 103 pour toujours jusqu'à la mort 😍😍🥰🥰👍👍
Le 103 sp surtout
still can't understand why monoshock swing arm is only for the 500+cc maxiscotters... for the price and overall improvement it should be in the 300+cc maxiscooters
Look at Kymco KRV 180i tcs, i think soon all adv scooters will have same rear wheel construction
👌👌👌
Did I miss Kymko AK 550 Premium ? Or you did not include it in the presentation?
Essa eu já quero 😍
Forza 750 is underrated
xu huong yeu thich xe tay ga
estan disponible para Republica dominicana
Bravo 4 this video, lots tiime u spent for sure. just one thing: U didnt give more info : How many cc, max speed. Anyhow my last
bike was Yamaha Majesty 400cc. First scooter was Solex with engine on the front wheel. After 4 grandkidz Istoped. One thing is true: Best time I had on the sadle of motorbikes. That feeling u can't compare with anything.
To su najstrasnija zagadjenja, za sva vremena, pogledajte zemlje Koje su opustosili🥶🥶🥶🥶
Why is the Tmax 560 (EU 15,699) more expensive than the XADV 750 (EU 12,600) and the Forza 750 (EU 11,990)? Doesn't add up.
Because the Yamaha es unique and does not have competition. Forza and XADV have a twin cylinder engine with double clutch gearbox and this engine and transmission are both shared with other Honda models (bikes).Those scooters are bikes with scooter envelope, they even have chain drive. The TMax is a super-scooter designed as a scooter and does not share the engine, nor the chassis with another model. The cylinders are completely horizontal (more luggage space under the seat) the transmission is located close to the engine and not close to the rear wheel like most of the scooters. Stability is incredible because the weight is very centered. Finally, this scooter has aluminium frame (less weight) and a legendary reliability. The Yamaha is a real scooter-scooter with advanced engineering and does not have a direct competitor, these are the reasons for its ridiculously high price tag.
@@josevi5835 Your facts are correct but your conclusion is wrong. The TMax is a typical CVT maxi scooter while the XADV and the Forza both have the more complex and more expensive DCT transmission, both also have bigger engine displacements 50% bigger than the TMax.
That's why you shouldn't buy Tmax?
@@nilobeebee TMax is not the typical CVT transmission scooter. The typical ones have the belt, variator and clutch behind the secondary axle while charging a lot of weight to the rear wheel. The TMax was the first scooter that changed this moving all the transmission system to the center of the bike. Moreover the cost of producing a 750cc engine is similar to the cost of a 550cc one.
@@josevi5835 It's the same CVT on the similarly sized but way lower priced Kymco AK550. But hey, can't do anything much if you insist on your flawed logic. So yeah, whatever floats your boat.
Wow
La moto Honda xadv es mi favorita donde la hay
Are these scooters available in India?
I choose X Max 300 for riding position...
Adv 350 😍
What do you think about Aprilia sr gt 200? Is it good scooter? I don't like bigger engine.
piagio group motor same vespa and all italyan's motors
😍
how can i trade this motorbike and others from Italy for secondhand?
Hello , what about the zontes 310 M ?
YAMAHA 300 😍😎😘🤗🤭💪👌✊✊👍👍🔥🔥💘💕💙💚
FORZA 750 the best gearbox of all time
I like the small Vespa 300
Thanks for the video. Honda and Yamaha still best products. This Peugeot is almost there but looks cheap and is french (200% sure will have quality problem).
Yes, true
Peugeot did not started this products yesterday !
Sono stato all'eicma e toccato con mano tutti i prodotti del video...il .peugeot non è male trovo brutto lo scarico sembra un tubo della stufa, il prezzo previsto è decisamente alto parlano di oltre 8000 euro.Yamaha tmax ha un prezzo troppo elevato rispetto ad un Honda Forza 750 mentre l'xmax300 2023 ha gli stessi problemi (ammortizzatori, freno anteriore chiave multifunzione non illuminata, etc.) del modello precedente.....Honda è decisamente avanti
It's French but it's built well.
French are the best. They build aircraft, what else ?
xadv rocks
😮😮
san location to boss
xadv 750 is the king
Ain't the brugman's tyre are to small compare to it's bulky body ?
Did you see the 10th anniversary limited edition sticker in the middle of the controller when shooting Xciting VS?
Nope ?
Хороший видос с ценами и показ качественный
Only HONDA ❤️
👍👍👍👍👍
Po'y ba pang bokid yan po.
which is song in background.... with female voice..... all I want.... something like that.....????
I like this beautiful scooters👍😊🛵
no ak550 gen 2?
In Yamaha hanno perso il senso della realtà
Hai ragione...ma secondo me l'anno un po persa tutti il senso della realtà....16..000 euro per uno scooter pur bello che sia...mi sembra una cosa da pazzi...
All great looking scoots, but the Burgman's tiny rear wheel looks ridiculous.
5:11 here comes 🇮🇹 design
Price kete
How to buy a ticker for a foreigner?
🆒️🆒️👍👍👍🧡
Nothing very original except Honda ADV 350. All scooters are so similars
i hope honda can make adv500 using rebel engine.
No, they cannot. This is about weight and power. Too small engine to automate shifting. Requires lot of investment for nothing.
@@podunkman2709 didnt u know there was silverwing 600c by honda before? it was scooter with 2 piston like tmax/ak550.
@@podunkman2709 Actually the old Forzas before used the basic scooter CVT engine at 300cc displacements. The Forza was a TMax peer together with the Burgmans 7 years ago. TMax is an old model just updating every 2 or 3 years.
You missing the kymco ak 550
There are some great Max-scooters in the world but they are not brought to the states
รอ มอไซค์ ติดแอร์
X-ADV is NOT scooter. Same about Forza 750
This is not scooters this is. Motor cycle dont. Disturb. Castors
Don't know if I'm paying $12,000 usd for a scooter might as well get a motorcycle
Tmax is the king of modern scooters and the Xmax the second choice Yamaha has done a fantastic job in this segment of market
Da ex possessore di un xmax300 techmax,ti posso dire che che su questo scooter Yamaha ha solo aggiornato l'estetica e strumentazione lasciando i gravi problemi del modello precedente.....Honda offre,con l'adv 350,più qualità e contenuti.
@@Maestroaustin Quali sono i gravi problemi ?
@@mauriziolagaxio4954 ammortizzatori posteriori ridicoli,vanno in fondo corsa scaricando tutto sulla schiena del pilota e passeggero, disco anteriore inadeguato alle prestazioni dello scooter, forcella anteriore che in piega con avvallamenti stradali va in crisi.....poi vi sono altri difetti,chiave multifunzione con vari impuntamenti e non illuminata,vano sottosella non rivestito e mal illuminato,farò anteriore poco potente,specie in abbagliante......per quello che costa ritengo siano,i primi da me menzionati,gravi problemi....parlo da ex proprietario venduto dopo sei mesi.....il modello nuovo,visto e toccato con mano all'eicma,ha mantenuto gli stessi elementi da me citati.....
@@Maestroaustin Allora che cosa mi consiglia di prender ? Il nuovo Forza 350cc
@@mauriziolagaxio4954 dipende cosa cerca tra l'uso quotidiano dal tipo di percorso.......urbano,extraurbano;l'xmax300 ha un'ottimo motore, brillante dai consumi molto bassi 32 km/lt ma non vale assolutamente i soldi che costa,le consiglio di provare l'adv350 Honda,costa 100€ meno del "nuovo" xmax300,l'adv ha una forcella anteriore a steli rovesciati e posteriori a corsa lunga a gas della Showa oltre il bauletto keyless,frena come si deve,secondo me è costruito anche meglio del yamaha avuto per sei mesi.....cmq li provi entrambi su strada e tragga le sue conclusioni.
Only for TV Jupiter I love you
Also Jamaha + Honda mit 750er wo über 9000 Euro sind, haben hinten genau die Federung wo ich mir Vorstellen kann
How much parais
Nothing about the new Lambrettas?
Where is Keeway xdv300??
Combien coûte cette scooters dont j'ai besoin, en COTE D'IVOIRE, localisez-moi chez votre revendeur et comme faire pour acquérir
Where is the NM4 vultus