This is not what Dave was talking about, Dave Said It Himself, it’s not about transsexuals, it’s about how much power the LGBT community has and dissecting how they have this mysterious power where they have been making more progress then people who are of color and are being oppressed. This Stand Up Segment He Did Was Deeper Then The Surface.
@@ndadzo06 Right, we have to understand these people are not here to break down the truth, these people are here to spread rumors and misinformation to keep people distracted and lost from the truth. Channels Like These are such a deep rabbit 🐇 whole that lead us far away from the truth of reality and what life really is.
@Michael Johnson 1. Nobody is saying that- because they are not the same. 2. Why are you coming after me? I'm just highlighting a statement made in the special regarding empathy. 3. You seem to be struggling to understand what Dave is saying in the special- especially regarding the bathroom bit.
@Michael Johnson If someone is making jokes that are clearly not intended to cause harm, I wouldn't take offense. Because groups have been teased with humor since the inception of comedy. This isn't new. Every other group- especially white men recently- have jokes made about them.. and most people can just deal with a joke or watch something else... What is new is the idea that a small group of people believe that I'm creating harm because I don't agree with their definition of what is funny. Seems pretty intellectually shallow to me.
@Michael Johnson whatever, you see exactly what you want to see. Unfortunately, we live in a world where everyone thinks that all opinions are equally valid, and all criticism is productive, regardless of the subject. I also notice how you didn't acknowledge my primary concern of classes being exempt of humourous banter and criticism from people who don't identify as members of that group. That exemption is immature and speaks volumes about the resiliency of that group. If a white comedian who made jokes about black people (Bill Burr) - as he does often- even if I found his jokes wildly distasteful- it wouldn't be grounds for me to request his removal from a diverse content pool- unless he was specifically and intentionally advocating harm.
I love the trap that Dave set. I saw it coming early and when it hit, I just clapped. If you cancel Dave, then Trans culture is canceling a black man. Dave wins. If you can’t cancel him, he wins. His point was, if equality is the goal, then everyone can equally get it. I personally thought, while it wasn’t his most lol set, it was truly genius.
I agree, basically, but it's much more nuanced and almost a dis service to what he actually did to put it that way. He's highlighting the inequality in the fight for equality. The trans people have very little to do with this. He's targeting the cancel culture/sjwism and philosophy and point out their bias. They are the butt of the joke of they mad and don't even know what he actually said 98% of the time.
@@dustinb1070 I think it has always existed, but in this day and age, it’s become something soft and fueled by weak people. I’m perfectly fine when that Jarad from Subway guy got removed years ago. I’m not gonna support canceling someone for saying something myself or anyone else doesn’t like. That’s some pussy shit.
The thing that stuck to me was when Dave said what he's gonna say to Daphne's daughter when he hands over the fund.. "I knew your father, He was a helluva woman"...👌👌
Dave Chappelle's comedy special has shown up one thing: Comedians that aren't Dave Chappelle have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to talk about other than "Cancel Culture" and Dave Chappelle.
*This is such a first world problem. I’ve heard crazier s*****t on Haitian radio stations and people just laugh about it. People in the US have way more time on their hands- and not enough real problems to give a s****t about*
I think we should stop calling it a "comedy special" yes Dave is a comic but he wasn't up there telling jokes.. He broke down a whole perspective.. Theres some laughs in it but thats just because Dave is funny but if you listen to the story, it points out how counterintuitive that community is
Andrew: "I think Dave is creating his beliefs based on his feelings" Meanwhile, trans people: "I feel like I'm the opposite sex, therefore I believe that I am" 🤔🤦
Why the fuck is this not the top comment?? But also, I love Andrew but I think he got butt hurt after Dave was on Joe’s podcast and said what he said lol
@bobby sternlicht 1. Just because Andrew is not trans does not mean that he is incapable of understanding trans people or what's going on with them (same goes for me). You don't have to be something in order to fully understand it. 2. There's no confusion here. We understand that trans people believe (based on their feelings) that they are actually a different gender and/or sex than what they are physically (when, in reality, they are not). That's all their is too it... It's not complicated or difficult to understand, whatsoever. Sorry if this hurts your feelings! We're more interested in truth than catering to some people's (a hostile group of people at that) delusions. 😆
@bobby sternlicht basically the trans community didn’t like Dave’s jokes, and Andrew stated it’s probably his belief on the way he feels. It’s funny Andrew would say that, because trans claim that they “feel” a certain way about their sex based on their beliefs. They are both saying the same thing, they feel a certain way about certain things based on both of their beliefs. It’s another agree to disagree and that’s about it. It’s not that difficult to understand.
Honestly. This was a great segment and real convo. And it speaks to Dave's greatness because a lot of this has never been touched on in particular. He's forcing hard honest conversations. We can always use honesty. Honesty is always progressive.
This trans issue is coming into every day life and most people think like Dave. Non Trans people are allowed an opinion and he voices the ambiguity and the blurred lines created so well.
Notice of all the white trans people involved with the Netflix walk out only the black trans woman got fired. In the words of Paul Mooney " she got her n#### wake up call" black trans people are making the same mistake biracials made. They think because they share commonality with certain white people that makes them exempt from racism. Unfortunately like my grandfather used to say some people need to burn to learn
Dave literally started his special by saying that he was retiring his trans bits and he won't talk about them again because they can't take a joke. And they're still upset and keep trying to cancel him to shut him up, but he already shut himself up by retiring the bits.
Everyone deserves the chance to live the way they want to live. My whole issue with this conversation is; the trans community wants us to understand and respect their beliefs but the want to cancel persons who don't have the same beliefs as them.
The whole problem with the current generation is this focus on the importance of feelings. I am super compassionate to the plight of trans people. That being said, I'm not going to say or believe things that are false in the name of compassion because I don't see the benefit of denying the nature of reality. Men can't have babies. Pretending otherwise is helpful to no one.
Well no one is saying that trans woman is going to have a baby either. 🤦🏻♂️ see this is exactly what andrew is talking about. People are just so dense that they dont even understand what being trans is. No trans person is going i cant have a baby but you have to tell me i can!
@@suvamkharel541 I have seen many trans activists claiming: " Trans women are real women." "There is no scientific difference between men and women." "Sex is assigned at birth." All 3 of these claims are the literal definition of false. Sex is not "assigned" at birth. (Except in the extremely rare case of intersex) Differences between sexes are readily apparent even to children. I'm all for treating everyone with compassion and fairness, it's the demand to dispense with reality that bothers me. That being said, I have also seen trans activists who are super level headed and admit the absurdity of their more militant/delusional brothers and sisters. Anyway, it's really the idea that now we have large numbers of people willing to say publicly statements they know to be false that scares me more than anything. This extends to conversations around racism as well. The idea that somehow America is as racist now as it was in the 1960's is one good example. It's clearly false by any measurement but lot's of folks are quite happy to pretend that it's true and demand we all agree or be labeled and cancelled. Nuance, and diversity of thought are under attack, along with free speech, which is the very cornerstone of any free society. These days even slight differences of opinion are seen as heresy in some quarters. It's not a positive direction for us to go in. IMHO.
@@coachdavis1511 Hard times create hard men. Hard men create easy times. Easy times create soft men. Soft men create hard times. Welcome to the era of easy times and soft men!
He was in third grade.that’s way you should not be doing stuff that will affect the rest of your life at third grade. like knowing if you are a girl or boy. And taking blockers or Definitely not surgery.But seems like some parents want to believe there kids when they say they are a wolf. And feed them dog food.
EXACTLY. my nephew went through a phase were he was following his older sister and thought he was a girl. But it's a phase. It's crazy that there are people who hear that from a little boy and end up doing some irreversible damage to there bodies. Same like alcohol or cigars. Once there of age and have matured. They can do whatever they want. But not when there little kids or teens.
@Michael Johnson Did you understand why he said "Im team Terf"? Also your analogy about Bill burr talking about a black guy coming in the bathroom is not perfect as you call it, far from it. Dave was talking about a person that looks like a woman, dresses like a woman and behaves like a woman comes into the men's restroom, goes to the urinal next to him and pulls their dick out. How is that even close to a white guy seeing a black guy come in the bathroom? Now please tell me, in context, what did Dave chappelle say in any of his last 6 specials that was transphobic in your eyes?
@Michael Johnson So because one wing is possibly more racist it excuses the racism within the other realm? If your case is "at least we're not as racist as those guys" then you should definitely rest it.
It was Dave's final attempt for people to actually listen to him and I find it amazing how many people missed his points. If you are mad at Chappelle, then you did not listen to the him...
@Bloodless Coup Mighty crazy of you to think that... Considering everything he is speaking on is about helping black people with problems they face in a white country and calling out the hypocrisy of everything now.
@@tonydelgado4485 With respect, if any part of your existence is based on "looking" for reasons to be outraged, you are living your life incorrectly. You should be sheading your self of stress, not willingly looking for it. Nobody will ever be truly 100% happy with what the world/any one person does. Also, with regards to Chappelle's special, they again did not listen to what he was saying. If they did, they would not be offended. If you were being facetious, then egg on me haha.
@Bloodless Coup what you just said is the problem. He does need to be heard as a black man! He put it simply simply the Trans community saying I see you do you see me. His whole special was about how well the LGBT community has done in getting equality and as black person he doesn't hate them but jealous at times that we haven't come together to accomplish what they have. He said quite clearly I don't hate you I understand you respect you and see you as an equal
I think people have seen it, and are judging based on what they seen. These people are just weak. People need to stop getting emotional because somebody says things they disagree with. Chappelle has the right to say what he wants. I do not care at all what Chappelle says about anything, nor should anybody else. We all have the right to our opinions. On a side note, I just do not find Chappelle to be funny anymore. I have not heard Chappelle say anything that made me laugh in at least the past decade, but nothing he has said has upset me. If people are getting upset over Chappelle having an opinion, they they are the ones that have a problem.
@@chrisgullett4332 Nah bra they've seen clips.. I've seen clips too that paint a different picture from what the special is. It's from a skewed vision. Charlamagne himself hasnt watched the special but is commenting on the clips and what he's heard.
@@lesegom7172 No he was upfront about not seeing it, but the others have. Get over yourself. They can have an opinion. Stop thinking you know what people have seen and haven't seen, and stop trying to force people to have your opinions. You seem very childish. Something tells me you vote Democrat.
@@chrisgullett4332 my bad bro.. We got lost in translation my fault.. By "them" I meant media in general that's against the special.. Not Andrew and Wax. But what I'm saying people whove watched clips and not the full special have a skewed vision and not the full picture. Like the part where the Media shows the clip where Dave says hes team TERF...
@@hbyt2477 korean humor and american humor are worlds apart. Once i laughed at someone falling off a bike she looked at me like "wtf is wrong with you?" Lol.. first time I ever see her laugh at American type comedy.
@Michael Johnson she aint transphobic or anti-gay... if anything... i am lol. A lot of the jokes she just wouldnt comprehend why this would be considered funny. But yes koreans from korea are really conservative but thats mainly the older generation.
@Michael Johnson Did you understand why he said "Im team Terf"? Also your analogy about Bill burr talking about a black guy coming in the bathroom is not perfect as you call it, far from it. Dave was talking about a person that looks like a woman, dresses like a woman and behaves like a woman comes into the men's restroom, goes to the urinal next to him and pulls their dick out. How is that even close to a white guy seeing a black guy come in the bathroom? Now please tell me, in context, what did Dave chappelle say in any of his last 6 specials that was transphobic in your eyes?
Dude he seen the show live it’s literally the same jokes. Ive seen both he probably understands the material better than you as he was there and it ran much longer live.
Just giving his opinion That’s kinda what podcasts are. And he’s a successful comedian so why is it weird to have an opinion on a opinion show on his area of expertise
@@manjb7097no that was 'The Closer' on Netflix. Dave's now in London doing different jokes. He goes in hard on Hannah Gadsby for her criticisms of his special lol
@@ojmatthew damn bro your lucky to have that experience. Can’t wait until he comes to Houston,TX I always miss him, it seems like he quietly sneaks into town and next thing you know the shows should out🤦🏽♂️Much love to the great people of London🖤
Having disdain is not the same as being "Phobic". Huge difference, I wish no harm, nor do I fear trans people. I feel like the media circus pushing the 'agenda" is kinda fucked up and is forced on all of us and I'm perfectly comfortable in this state of opinion. No hate, no fear, I just feel inundated with it constantly.
“Sometimes we create our beliefs off of our feelings. Our feelings come first and then we justify it.” Yeah this only proves Chapelle’s view even more. Are we going to forget that any trans person needs to know their, “assigned gender,” to take the appropriate hormones for the rest of their life? This is a fact. Because these are my beliefs and more importantly factual, it doesn’t mean that I don’t accept what one identifies as regarding gender. I will always support the trans community, how they feel, and want equal rights but sorry, call me a boomer (I’ a millennial), we can’t discard science because it hurts someone’s feelings. 🤷🏽♀️ this mentality is why we are still dealing with this pandemic ~2 years later.
I WAS JUST COMING TO SAY THE SAME ONLY MORE BRUTALLY BECAUSE THEY KNOW THIS AND ARE AGENTS FOR LGBT THE LOT OF THEM EVERYBODY HAS FEELINGS IN FACT FEELINGS A WHITE PRIVILEGE!!!, WAS TALKING ABOUT AGAINST AFRICAN PEOPLE WHITE PEOPLE DO NOT GET TO TALK ON IT ITS AN INSULT AND EVERY REASON YOU SHOULD NEVER COMPARE OUR STRUGGLE TO OTHERS ITS DIVISIVE
@Michael Johnson Did you understand why he said "Im team Terf"? Also your analogy about Bill burr talking about a black guy coming in the bathroom is not perfect as you call it, far from it. Dave was talking about a person that looks like a woman, dresses like a woman and behaves like a woman comes into the men's restroom, goes to the urinal next to him and pulls their dick out. How is that even close to a white guy seeing a black guy come in the bathroom? Now please tell me, in context, what did Dave chappelle say in any of his last 6 specials that was transphobic in your eyes?
What I got from Dave’s special was his frustration with the LGBTQ+ community’s extreme sensitivity when it comes to their OWN and lack of sensitivity or fight for other minority groups. They tend to be quick to cancel and say “you don’t understand me” and slow to come to the table and have a civilized conversation and say “how can we both support each other.”
"I don't make the rules for heaven" This one statement hints that we don't decide the things about our world. Something I think most people forget when trying to figure life out.
I love how people intentionally conflate this issue. Religion is belief. No one cares if a person believes or feels they are a man or woman. No one is going to bully you because of that. The issue is that the trans community wants to bully (cancel) others who don’t believe them to be a different gender. Be what the hell you want to be, just don’t get mad if I don’t agree with a man dressed as a woman walking into a bathroom with my daughter.
It's funny, shows how it went over your head. He highlighted the holes in their ideology. He said you can believe it, but here are the faults in your thought process and here are one of your people I learnt with, we both co existed but it was her own that tore her apart. He did it with comedy in story format and very poignant end. It's a very specific art that ONLY he has the ability to do which makes him the GOAT. Even when he references himself and his lifestyle he doesn't take it seriously. Ironically he stood up for women, as a woman I felt it.
See even when you make comments like that it’s as if you’re saying there are no black homosexual’s And to say oh we’re treated poorly so who gives a shit about how you’re treated is a pretty stupid defense
Yes, Dave Chappelle is one of the greatest storytellers! That's why it's so hard to mimic Dave Chappelle, because he has a way of centralizing a "punch line" based on stories. Should also listen to Dave Choe as well. My top 2 most interesting people to listen to.
I love stand up comedy and its true that philosophers can be funny and comedians can be insightful, but to say that comedians evolve into philosophers is an insult against philosophers lol I'm studying philosophy, theology, epistemology, ontology, etc, that simply isn't the same as jokes with social commentary.
@@Soulful96QC sounds like you won’t be a good philosopher if you can’t decipher his simple statement. Good luck making money after you finish studying someone else’s philosophy.
Diogenes was the only REAL philosopher, putting his ideas to the test. He's been framed in a certain light because he pissed off the others so much. And only a few comedians evolved into a sort of philosopher. Carlin and Chappelle among those few.
@ws 2019 lol I still don’t get that perspective tho like a lot of the jokes are about white people and it’s specifically about the lgbtq community but I just kinda wanted him to move on
The fact that Charlemagne is trying to defend trans people instead of speaking on Daves point about blacks, and Charlemagne himself being black, lets you know what side he's on.
Comedy is an art form. What everyone including him forgets about arts is that it’s ambiguous by nature but expected to be interpreted how the artist intended. That’s why you think about why and what influenced it. Some are is abstract intentionally and some art is directional and intentional. David’s art is lost in translation
Andrew explained Dave's stand up very well. He's more of a philosopher at this point and yes he can make us laugh at any point .. however, I didn't find it funny but I didn't find it problematic.
Cancel culture is there because of the politicians who support progressive stances but sometimes relentlessly, more people who didn't at once are feeling empowered.
I would say Carlin wasn’t as story heavy as he was philosophy heavy. Carlin was more about concepts, more about analyzing language/politics/reality. Prior was big on telling stories. Picture when he accidentally lit himself on fire
Don't act like Charlamagne don't look like he wear eyeliner, with his brows on point.... that's why Dave made that joke about him. Man's got a feminine face.
I wouldn’t consider Chappelle’s special as 100% the conventional comedy as we are used to seeing. Mixes both comedy and social commentary. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t powerful. I think it is. He takes comedy to the next level.
Just curious but am I the only one that watched the special and noticed the 2 white women in the middle looking all angry when everyone else around them was laughing and having a good time?
@@manjb7097 It's an observation of something that stood out to me and was curious if it stood out to anyone else. To go to a comedy show and not have a sense of humor is odd to "me".
The problem is trying to force people to have the same perspective. It's impossible. What should be focused on is allowing people to be what they want to be. Whether it's gay or straight. Neither should impact the other.
@Michael Johnson i very much agree with the first part, but the second part exemplifies the problem: who defines the line? Aside obvious hate speech, who determines what is aceptable or not, and in what context? is an honest question
I've been conflicted on how I feel about the special. Love Dave and all his specials but don't think this one deserves all the attention its getting (positive or negative). Don't think it is controversial enough to be "cancellable" or get the hate that it got but my problem with it is just that it wasn't funny. Like not funny at all. It was good story telling and I always enjoy Dave's wisdom but I didn't find myself laughing much at all. There was a few sharp exhales through the nose and "that's a good point" but we can't say a stand up special was good just because its Dave. At this point I think he could walk up to the stage, fart in the mic, walk off and everyone would be like, "Oh my god Dave is a genius"
I remember watching one of his specials where he said , and i'm paraphrasing here; "i'm so fucking famous that i can say whatever i want and you'll pay me lots of money for it'
@@tilabryant5591 I mean aren’t we all a bit jealous of Dave 😂 he’s a goat. The tone of my comment was more so disappointed and confused though at why the special is getting so much attention. I wish he would’ve made his jokes more offensive tbh atleast then it would’ve been funny. Instead of just going up and making a bunch of valid points about the trans community and getting backlash he might as well have just gone up and actually told some savage jokes. It just felt like I was listening to my drunk uncle at the cookout complain about trans people for over an hour without even telling a joke.
Like music, comedy is subjective. I found it pretty funny and equally thought provoking. Dave along with people like George Carlin were great at telling stories or speaking truth power well also making it funny at the same time. All part of their genius, in my opinion.
This is what I was trying to explain to my friend lol. he actually thought that Dave Chappelle was somehow struggling with jokes lol. Dave Chappelle had already mastered comedy as a teenager, to think he would struggle with jokes is laughable (no pun intended). But yes Dave has become more preoccupied with the message than the laugh. Carlin-esque. One interesting though, is that while he didn't match the hilarity of his younger years, he matched the energy. It was a different energy from the other Netflix specials. This felt like the original Dave. He even looked less buff and use some of his old vocals.
@Michael Johnson Did you understand why he said "Im team Terf"? Also your analogy about Bill burr talking about a black guy coming in the bathroom is not perfect as you call it, far from it. Dave was talking about a person that looks like a woman, dresses like a woman and behaves like a woman comes into the men's restroom, goes to the urinal next to him and pulls their dick out. How is that even close to a white guy seeing a black guy come in the bathroom? Now please tell me, in context, what did Dave chappelle say in any of his last 6 specials that was transphobic in your eyes?
@Michael Johnson you've replied, but you've failed to elaborate anything you are saying. You call transphobia, but don't explain why is transphobic. You have not said anything about my arguments nor have you answered any of my questions. I know the reason you have not os because you can't. Just saying, "the joke about the bathroom" and "I am team terf" comment is not nearly enough to come to the conclusion that Dave chappelle is homophobic. I ask again, in context, what is the homophobic part in any of his last 6 specials? What makes that part homophobic?
@Michael Johnson "Misgendering transwomen is transphobic", ok, fair enough. When did Dave do this though? Please provide me with an example, because he has done exactly the opposite. He says multiple times that trans women are women. Your problem is that you are so stuck in your hate and misunderstandings that you can't understand what is being said. When dave Chappelle made the terf comment, first of all, it wasn't unironacally said, thank you for letting me know you really can't understand the context of what is being said. He was referring to the fact that he is a feminist by definition, and he believes that gender is a fact, which 100% is a fact and if you say otherwise wise you are delusional. This is enough to be called a terf by people like you, just pointing out that people are born from a natural born woman, and are a girl or a boy at birth is enough to be transphobic. Immediately after that bit, he says verbatim, "I am not saying that to say trans women aren't women", but you don't listen. Dave entire point is that we are humans, having a human experience, and we can respect eachother as humans. He is saying that if you feel like a woman, you are a woman, but that is not to say you are the exact same as a woman, there are still differences that are important, otherwise it would be OK for transwomen to compete against born women in sports. If you think it's OK for transwomen to compete against born women, again, you are delusional, and your opinion automatically becomes irrelevant to me. Just because Dave is poking fun at the differences between a trans woman and a natural born woman, IN A STAND UP, yall get mad, and start pulling the transphobic card. And then yall have the nerve to say yall are not too sensitive. BItch please, you are trying to cancel a stand up comic for telling jokes you didn't even understand. You keep saying that the bathroom joke is like saying trans women are crossdressinf, but you've failed to explain why every time. I love when people keep repeating how obvious something is but can't articulate that very obvious thing they are talking about.
I am lost. Dave said, and I quote "I am NOT saying transwoman aren't womem". He said that he agrees w/the author of the harry potter books. Woman do exist. There are 2 genders. Now I am saying that is if a man transitions and is addressed / recognized as a woman it makes sense to me that she is now a woman. Anyone is open to comment. I respect and ask to be respected as well.
Daves argument is that they were originally a man and than transitioned into a woman. But that still means they were originally a man. Transwomen people are trying to say they were always women even before the transition which hes saying is false. And it is. You cannot remove biology to make you feel better. That difference is why transwoman should not be allowed to compete in physical events with other women. Thats not phobic its just science. Because a trans woman will have denser bone structure she got from being male which will give her an unfair advantage in competitions with other females .. They call it exclusionary where it isn't. Its a fact they have an advantage and some of the lbgtq community can't handle facts
So what you're saying is, since it's about feelings, you would have no problem with white people calling blacks the N-word again? After all, they need to get over themselves don't they? Now this is the part where you try make excuses and/or use the trope of "that's different"; except it's not. Don't shit on other minorities and then be shocked if they decide to shit on you back. On another note, there's nothing more disgusting and filthy than a member of one minority punching down on another minority. Don't demand respect if you're not willing to give or earn it.
@@Pexodus11 Except I'm not wrong am I? You proffered an excuse for Chapelle regarding words not doing any real world harm. I'm merely using that standard and applying it to a different word. That you can't see the principle at work would seem to indicate that it is you who is not quite up to speed. Also, interesting use of a chromosome joke, as if to imply people with Downs Syndrome are somehow less than. Speaks volumes that.
Dave Chappelle will never, in his lifetime, ever rise to the brilliance of Carlin. In fact (and yes, watch some of his interviews), George was an LGBTQ ally until the day he died. He would rip the black off Chappelle's ass.
Dude a half a century ago the majority of the USA didn't believe black people were deserving of human rights and they had to convince people to believe they did. Wtf are you talking about
@@TheEvolver311 Buenos dias. Half a century ago a man by the name of Dr. King finally got the Black Americans to believe they were free regardless of what the whites thought. Civil rights movement was because blacks believed not because they had to convince whites they were free.
@@elnachismo2553 no of the civil rights movement didn't convince enough white people that their cause was just the same oppression would have persisted and it was 100 years of convincing white people things like minstrel shows were offensive even tho it was the most popular form of comedy in its era.
The funniest thing about Chapelle’s special was the lady with purple hair in the audience not only not laughing the entire time, but offended 😂 why did she pay to see him??
The problem with that is that people define "hurt" really differently. I'd say if it's not calling to violence or discrimination, and not against the law then it should be fair game.
@@clavo6498 it seems like the majority of people nowadays are that kid in class that got angry at anybody having fun and would tell the teacher on them
@@robertruiz98 too me it seems like the old white ladies that would tell the courts to stop kids from playing GTA Or Mortal Kombat but instead of old white ladies its everybody my age now
@@clavo6498 being so sensitive and taking offense to everything allows you to justify to yourself committing horrible Acts. Like today a member of British Parliament was stabbed to death inside a church by a 25 year old person who had strong views against abortion. The fact that people who disagree with your views is worth death where's the humanity in that. Or like last week a child was rped in a bathroom but nobody's talking about it because they would considered transphobic. People are being sacrificed and swept under the rug just to protect people's feelings
He meant no one can convince him he wasn't. Based on the experience he had. If I have an experience that's abnormal, you can't convince me it didn't happen. I remember it. Now my memory could be false...but unless you have evidence, I'm not believing it didn't happen.
@@derekaddison4835 Thank you for explaining it fully and even though I understood what he meant. I am here to tell him that he definitely did not turn into a werewolf. And I'm not going to try and convince anyone.
The part about the white, gay guy who was filming him and when Dave called him on it, he pulled out his cell phone and called the cops. To quote Dave "Gay people are gay, until they need to be white again. And THAT'S what I have a problem with!". Oh, Catlin Jenner being named "Women of the Year and she's only been a woman for 1 year" was a good point too. Funny how nobody is upset that he talked about white Hollywood feminist who thought dressing up in black gowns at an award show was a "protest", but didn't protest against Harvey Weinstein. I thin he's looking at YOU MERYL STREEP!
Its not a lack of understand. I fully understand the trans gender perspective, I just don't agree with their premise. Saying I lack understanding is implying that I have to agree with their perspective. I wish them all the best, and I dont think people should harrass them, and I will probably call them by their preferred pronouns because I not looking to just intentially offend people. I will however refuse to call them by their pronouns if we are in a debate setting where they claim that sex and gender have no connection, or I will speak out and disagree when they want to give hormone blockers to children, and i will disagree with them if they try to put trans woman in womans sports.
I personally didn't find it that funny. Not that I didn't like it, but it took a serious tone. I giggled a few times and almost cried at the end. I thought it was close to being a PSA about not hating on people because they might kill themselves. And how much dave cared about Daphne.
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This is not what Dave was talking about, Dave Said It Himself, it’s not about transsexuals, it’s about how much power the LGBT community has and dissecting how they have this mysterious power where they have been making more progress then people who are of color and are being oppressed.
This Stand Up Segment He Did Was Deeper Then The Surface.
Yep.
He is advocating for Freedom of speech. Something we can't and shouldn't ever censor
@@ericsantiago9187 that as well
Was about to say. This is a poor relaying and breaking down of information.
@@ndadzo06 Right, we have to understand these people are not here to break down the truth, these people are here to spread rumors and misinformation to keep people distracted and lost from the truth. Channels Like These are such a deep rabbit 🐇 whole that lead us far away from the truth of reality and what life really is.
"I don't need you to understand me.... I just need you to know that I'm having a human experience" .... it's literaly in his special.
@Michael Johnson 1. Nobody is saying that- because they are not the same. 2. Why are you coming after me? I'm just highlighting a statement made in the special regarding empathy. 3. You seem to be struggling to understand what Dave is saying in the special- especially regarding the bathroom bit.
@Michael Johnson If someone is making jokes that are clearly not intended to cause harm, I wouldn't take offense. Because groups have been teased with humor since the inception of comedy. This isn't new. Every other group- especially white men recently- have jokes made about them.. and most people can just deal with a joke or watch something else... What is new is the idea that a small group of people believe that I'm creating harm because I don't agree with their definition of what is funny. Seems pretty intellectually shallow to me.
@Michael Johnson yes he should be allowed to say whatever he wants, as long as he’s being funny what’s the problem?
@Michael Johnson criticizing someone is different from trying to harm them or attempting to make them lose their job.
@Michael Johnson whatever, you see exactly what you want to see. Unfortunately, we live in a world where everyone thinks that all opinions are equally valid, and all criticism is productive, regardless of the subject. I also notice how you didn't acknowledge my primary concern of classes being exempt of humourous banter and criticism from people who don't identify as members of that group. That exemption is immature and speaks volumes about the resiliency of that group. If a white comedian who made jokes about black people (Bill Burr) - as he does often- even if I found his jokes wildly distasteful- it wouldn't be grounds for me to request his removal from a diverse content pool- unless he was specifically and intentionally advocating harm.
I love the trap that Dave set. I saw it coming early and when it hit, I just clapped.
If you cancel Dave, then Trans culture is canceling a black man. Dave wins.
If you can’t cancel him, he wins.
His point was, if equality is the goal, then everyone can equally get it.
I personally thought, while it wasn’t his most lol set, it was truly genius.
I agree, basically, but it's much more nuanced and almost a dis service to what he actually did to put it that way. He's highlighting the inequality in the fight for equality. The trans people have very little to do with this. He's targeting the cancel culture/sjwism and philosophy and point out their bias. They are the butt of the joke of they mad and don't even know what he actually said 98% of the time.
@@dustinb1070 I agree. You that much better than I.
You should ask Harvey Weinstein, Chris Delia, Louie ck and a skew of others if cancelling doesn't exist.
@@dustinb1070 I think it has always existed, but in this day and age, it’s become something soft and fueled by weak people. I’m perfectly fine when that Jarad from Subway guy got removed years ago. I’m not gonna support canceling someone for saying something myself or anyone else doesn’t like. That’s some pussy shit.
I am not mad at Dave at all btw. I don't think he should or will be cancelled
The thing that stuck to me was when Dave said what he's gonna say to Daphne's daughter when he hands over the fund..
"I knew your father, He was a helluva woman"...👌👌
@Michael Johnson Yes...
@Michael Johnson yes 100%
Yeah that was hella funny
@Michael Johnson yes cancel culture exists, but Burr has the right to say whatever he wants.
@Michael Johnson Why dont you copy/paste this same comment 10 more times? It’s pathetic
Dave Chappelle's comedy special has shown up one thing: Comedians that aren't Dave Chappelle have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to talk about other than "Cancel Culture" and Dave Chappelle.
Ima plug shane gillis's new special on youtube for you. I reccomend it highly. No cancel culture jokes or bitching. Its fuckin hilarious
@@Appathetic_Substance_Abuse its mediocre
Great point
Sounds like you need to broaden your horizons. Plenty of other funny comedians out there.
@@olherb9633 no one asked. We have the same access to multimedia as you do. Carry on.
*This is such a first world problem. I’ve heard crazier s*****t on Haitian radio stations and people just laugh about it. People in the US have way more time on their hands- and not enough real problems to give a s****t about*
Trust me nobody over here cares except the media, you should hear what they say in the media about Haiti over here.
This. My family is from Mexico and they don’t understand these issues. They find it funny. America is full of bs
true, when your life is too easy you start to invent problems
Good point bro
@@jaysoto1182 It's Media creating these issues that influences naive minds.
When Dave said daphne said she was a human being going through an experience. I’ll leave it at that.
I think we should stop calling it a "comedy special" yes Dave is a comic but he wasn't up there telling jokes.. He broke down a whole perspective.. Theres some laughs in it but thats just because Dave is funny but if you listen to the story, it points out how counterintuitive that community is
Perfectly said!!!
Andrew: "I think Dave is creating his beliefs based on his feelings"
Meanwhile, trans people:
"I feel like I'm the opposite sex, therefore I believe that I am"
🤔🤦
Why the fuck is this not the top comment??
But also, I love Andrew but I think he got butt hurt after Dave was on Joe’s podcast and said what he said lol
@bobby sternlicht You obviously do not understand what point he’s trying to make. God bless your soul
@bobby sternlicht 🤙🏽
@bobby sternlicht 1. Just because Andrew is not trans does not mean that he is incapable of understanding trans people or what's going on with them (same goes for me). You don't have to be something in order to fully understand it.
2. There's no confusion here. We understand that trans people believe (based on their feelings) that they are actually a different gender and/or sex than what they are physically (when, in reality, they are not). That's all their is too it... It's not complicated or difficult to understand, whatsoever.
Sorry if this hurts your feelings! We're more interested in truth than catering to some people's (a hostile group of people at that) delusions. 😆
@bobby sternlicht basically the trans community didn’t like Dave’s jokes, and Andrew stated it’s probably his belief on the way he feels. It’s funny Andrew would say that, because trans claim that they “feel” a certain way about their sex based on their beliefs. They are both saying the same thing, they feel a certain way about certain things based on both of their beliefs. It’s another agree to disagree and that’s about it. It’s not that difficult to understand.
Honestly. This was a great segment and real convo. And it speaks to Dave's greatness because a lot of this has never been touched on in particular. He's forcing hard honest conversations. We can always use honesty. Honesty is always progressive.
This trans issue is coming into every day life and most people think like Dave. Non Trans people are allowed an opinion and he voices the ambiguity and the blurred lines created so well.
He is literally just talking about how he doesn't like the privilege of white LGBTQ+ people, that was it.
Notice of all the white trans people involved with the Netflix walk out only the black trans woman got fired. In the words of Paul Mooney " she got her n#### wake up call" black trans people are making the same mistake biracials made. They think because they share commonality with certain white people that makes them exempt from racism. Unfortunately like my grandfather used to say some people need to burn to learn
Dave literally started his special by saying that he was retiring his trans bits and he won't talk about them again because they can't take a joke. And they're still upset and keep trying to cancel him to shut him up, but he already shut himself up by retiring the bits.
Exactly!!!
I swear Andrew is such a HATER of Dave man. That special was mad great 😂😂😂
Not really.. his weakest at Netflix. Looked unpolished. For example the "suck my dick" joke. The delivery was way off man..
@@md5820 you on crack
Chapelle threw shade at Schulz on Rogan so I think he’s held onto it a bit haha
@@scope9466 I don't know him. That's not my sort of comedy
@@rudysseus4410 No I'd like to be. Are you selling?
Everyone deserves the chance to live the way they want to live. My whole issue with this conversation is; the trans community wants us to understand and respect their beliefs but the want to cancel persons who don't have the same beliefs as them.
racists don’t deserve the same dignity as trans people.. trans aren’t hateful. racists are.
@@whatthecluck6874 There's a difference between hate speech and freedom of speech
@@lesegom7172 Exactly
Just seems like he is on a boomer mentality, like why is he even focused on trans?
@@Blake-gh8xl because they're beating black people in the discrimination awards and it reaks of white privilege
The whole problem with the current generation is this focus on the importance of feelings. I am super compassionate to the plight of trans people. That being said, I'm not going to say or believe things that are false in the name of compassion because I don't see the benefit of denying the nature of reality. Men can't have babies. Pretending otherwise is helpful to no one.
Well no one is saying that trans woman is going to have a baby either. 🤦🏻♂️ see this is exactly what andrew is talking about. People are just so dense that they dont even understand what being trans is. No trans person is going i cant have a baby but you have to tell me i can!
agreed. This is what happens when women want softer men. It translates into everyone being emotional with women tendencies
@@suvamkharel541 I have seen many trans activists claiming:
" Trans women are real women."
"There is no scientific difference between men and women."
"Sex is assigned at birth."
All 3 of these claims are the literal definition of false. Sex is not "assigned" at birth. (Except in the extremely rare case of intersex) Differences between sexes are readily apparent even to children. I'm all for treating everyone with compassion and fairness, it's the demand to dispense with reality that bothers me. That being said, I have also seen trans activists who are super level headed and admit the absurdity of their more militant/delusional brothers and sisters.
Anyway, it's really the idea that now we have large numbers of people willing to say publicly statements they know to be false that scares me more than anything. This extends to conversations around racism as well. The idea that somehow America is as racist now as it was in the 1960's is one good example. It's clearly false by any measurement but lot's of folks are quite happy to pretend that it's true and demand we all agree or be labeled and cancelled. Nuance, and diversity of thought are under attack, along with free speech, which is the very cornerstone of any free society. These days even slight differences of opinion are seen as heresy in some quarters. It's not a positive direction for us to go in. IMHO.
@@coachdavis1511 Hard times create hard men. Hard men create easy times. Easy times create soft men. Soft men create hard times. Welcome to the era of easy times and soft men!
@@davewade30 Do you believe it's good or bad or do you think it just is what it is?
"You might've been trans" "man shut up" " you might've been transwolf" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣
He was in third grade.that’s way you should not be doing stuff that will affect the rest of your life at third grade. like knowing if you are a girl or boy. And taking blockers or Definitely not surgery.But seems like some parents want to believe there kids when they say they are a wolf. And feed them dog food.
EXACTLY. my nephew went through a phase were he was following his older sister and thought he was a girl. But it's a phase. It's crazy that there are people who hear that from a little boy and end up doing some irreversible damage to there bodies. Same like alcohol or cigars. Once there of age and have matured. They can do whatever they want. But not when there little kids or teens.
Andrew has such a talent to translate the common sense and people's way of thinking. His examples are bananas 😅😅
Nah he got that insight from another on his other podcast; it's a good insight but he's acting he though of it...
@@siraltitude2 yeah I noticed that too
@@siraltitude2 Yeah Schulz is that dishonest. GTFO.
It seems like they watched the “highlights” on Twitter and missed the point
Yep
@Michael Johnson Did you understand why he said "Im team Terf"? Also your analogy about Bill burr talking about a black guy coming in the bathroom is not perfect as you call it, far from it. Dave was talking about a person that looks like a woman, dresses like a woman and behaves like a woman comes into the men's restroom, goes to the urinal next to him and pulls their dick out. How is that even close to a white guy seeing a black guy come in the bathroom? Now please tell me, in context, what did Dave chappelle say in any of his last 6 specials that was transphobic in your eyes?
@Michael Johnson There are definitely more racist white males in the Trans circle than in the "TERF" circle so I don't know if your analogy fits.
@Michael Johnson What does being left have to do with having racist notions? You can be for abortion rights and be misogynistic.
@Michael Johnson So because one wing is possibly more racist it excuses the racism within the other realm? If your case is "at least we're not as racist as those guys" then you should definitely rest it.
It was Dave's final attempt for people to actually listen to him and I find it amazing how many people missed his points. If you are mad at Chappelle, then you did not listen to the him...
@Bloodless Coup Mighty crazy of you to think that... Considering everything he is speaking on is about helping black people with problems they face in a white country and calling out the hypocrisy of everything now.
@One Hitter Quitter 100% unfortunately
@onehitterquitter y would they hate there own lives? Saying they look for things to b outraged abt is saying they exist
@@tonydelgado4485 With respect, if any part of your existence is based on "looking" for reasons to be outraged, you are living your life incorrectly. You should be sheading your self of stress, not willingly looking for it. Nobody will ever be truly 100% happy with what the world/any one person does. Also, with regards to Chappelle's special, they again did not listen to what he was saying. If they did, they would not be offended.
If you were being facetious, then egg on me haha.
@Bloodless Coup what you just said is the problem. He does need to be heard as a black man! He put it simply simply the Trans community saying I see you do you see me. His whole special was about how well the LGBT community has done in getting equality and as black person he doesn't hate them but jealous at times that we haven't come together to accomplish what they have. He said quite clearly I don't hate you I understand you respect you and see you as an equal
Correction Andrew Schulz Dave Chapelle isn’t just the best story teller of our time he is also the best comedian
"Where some refer to him as the GOAT"
I'm one of those. 🐐 Sleep well Daf.
Correction Osman Zubeir *Chappelle
not
@@PouyaZoleikani he is
this is the problem people are judging the special and haven't even seen it
I think people have seen it, and are judging based on what they seen. These people are just weak. People need to stop getting emotional because somebody says things they disagree with. Chappelle has the right to say what he wants. I do not care at all what Chappelle says about anything, nor should anybody else. We all have the right to our opinions. On a side note, I just do not find Chappelle to be funny anymore. I have not heard Chappelle say anything that made me laugh in at least the past decade, but nothing he has said has upset me. If people are getting upset over Chappelle having an opinion, they they are the ones that have a problem.
@@chrisgullett4332 Nah bra they've seen clips.. I've seen clips too that paint a different picture from what the special is. It's from a skewed vision. Charlamagne himself hasnt watched the special but is commenting on the clips and what he's heard.
@@lesegom7172 No he was upfront about not seeing it, but the others have. Get over yourself. They can have an opinion. Stop thinking you know what people have seen and haven't seen, and stop trying to force people to have your opinions. You seem very childish. Something tells me you vote Democrat.
@@chrisgullett4332 my bad bro.. We got lost in translation my fault.. By "them" I meant media in general that's against the special.. Not Andrew and Wax. But what I'm saying people whove watched clips and not the full special have a skewed vision and not the full picture. Like the part where the Media shows the clip where Dave says hes team TERF...
My wife's korean who I've never caught laughing in my life, saw the special with me in Korean subtitles and died laughing
Bro she never laughs?
@@hbyt2477 korean humor and american humor are worlds apart. Once i laughed at someone falling off a bike she looked at me like "wtf is wrong with you?" Lol.. first time I ever see her laugh at American type comedy.
Congratulations
@Michael Johnson she aint transphobic or anti-gay... if anything... i am lol. A lot of the jokes she just wouldnt comprehend why this would be considered funny. But yes koreans from korea are really conservative but thats mainly the older generation.
@Michael Johnson Did you understand why he said "Im team Terf"? Also your analogy about Bill burr talking about a black guy coming in the bathroom is not perfect as you call it, far from it. Dave was talking about a person that looks like a woman, dresses like a woman and behaves like a woman comes into the men's restroom, goes to the urinal next to him and pulls their dick out. How is that even close to a white guy seeing a black guy come in the bathroom? Now please tell me, in context, what did Dave chappelle say in any of his last 6 specials that was transphobic in your eyes?
Charlamagne didn't do his research for the show....lol. He could have at least watched the WHOLE 'The Closer.'
Welcome to brilliant idiots haha
@@JonathanC199 Dude said research hahaha
Dude he seen the show live it’s literally the same jokes. Ive seen both he probably understands the material better than you as he was there and it ran much longer live.
This show is literally Andrew and charla repeating their exact same points on their separate shows smh
And yet here you are😂🤣😂
@@thejonpaulshow3116 I listen to all 3 fucko
I be tryna see sum new on each one
Mark Gagasomething came up with the people Andrew said on fragrant.
Weird how Andrew talks about Dave’s comedy as if they’re on the same level
Facts! I've noticed that shi a lot of times .. Bra in his head he's better than Chapelle.
The fans been gassing up schultz heavy he goofy funny at best
@@iffysd9864 Bra even Ryan Davis is funnier than Andrew... And Andrew's been doing it longer
Just giving his opinion That’s kinda what podcasts are. And he’s a successful comedian so why is it weird to have an opinion on a opinion show on his area of expertise
No need to downplay confidence. Leagues and classes quality probably don't come up in Schulz' thought process. The mindset of a professional
Just came back from watching Chappelle live here in London... Brilliant!!
Was it the show they are discussing ?
@@manjb7097no that was 'The Closer' on Netflix. Dave's now in London doing different jokes. He goes in hard on Hannah Gadsby for her criticisms of his special lol
@@ojmatthew damn bro your lucky to have that experience. Can’t wait until he comes to Houston,TX I always miss him, it seems like he quietly sneaks into town and next thing you know the shows should out🤦🏽♂️Much love to the great people of London🖤
@@ojmatthew nice one. I was looking at tickets too. Really expensive. I have seen him previously in London too. He was really great.
@Michael Johnson great points. Its always essential to looks the nuances of these things, rather than pick a side and defend everything on that side.
Having disdain is not the same as being "Phobic". Huge difference, I wish no harm, nor do I fear trans people. I feel like the media circus pushing the 'agenda" is kinda fucked up and is forced on all of us and I'm perfectly comfortable in this state of opinion. No hate, no fear, I just feel inundated with it constantly.
dis·dain
/disˈdān/
noun: the feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt.
Similar: contempt scorn derision disrespect disparagement condescension arrogance
Yeah, you're not 'phobic', you're a hateful fuck.
Talked for 20 minutes about the special and it’s meaning to end it by saying “ I haven’t seen it yet just bits and pieces”
Schultz is a known Chappelle hater
“Sometimes we create our beliefs off of our feelings. Our feelings come first and then we justify it.” Yeah this only proves Chapelle’s view even more. Are we going to forget that any trans person needs to know their, “assigned gender,” to take the appropriate hormones for the rest of their life? This is a fact. Because these are my beliefs and more importantly factual, it doesn’t mean that I don’t accept what one identifies as regarding gender. I will always support the trans community, how they feel, and want equal rights but sorry, call me a boomer (I’ a millennial), we can’t discard science because it hurts someone’s feelings. 🤷🏽♀️ this mentality is why we are still dealing with this pandemic ~2 years later.
I WAS JUST COMING TO SAY THE SAME ONLY MORE BRUTALLY BECAUSE THEY KNOW THIS AND ARE AGENTS FOR LGBT THE LOT OF THEM EVERYBODY HAS FEELINGS IN FACT FEELINGS A WHITE PRIVILEGE!!!, WAS TALKING ABOUT AGAINST AFRICAN PEOPLE WHITE PEOPLE DO NOT GET TO TALK ON IT ITS AN INSULT AND EVERY REASON YOU SHOULD NEVER COMPARE OUR STRUGGLE TO OTHERS ITS DIVISIVE
He is the only comedian who brings real issues without fear , pple pretend they don't know what's happening out there
@Michael Johnson Did you understand why he said "Im team Terf"? Also your analogy about Bill burr talking about a black guy coming in the bathroom is not perfect as you call it, far from it. Dave was talking about a person that looks like a woman, dresses like a woman and behaves like a woman comes into the men's restroom, goes to the urinal next to him and pulls their dick out. How is that even close to a white guy seeing a black guy come in the bathroom? Now please tell me, in context, what did Dave chappelle say in any of his last 6 specials that was transphobic in your eyes?
What I got from Dave’s special was his frustration with the LGBTQ+ community’s extreme sensitivity when it comes to their OWN and lack of sensitivity or fight for other minority groups. They tend to be quick to cancel and say “you don’t understand me” and slow to come to the table and have a civilized conversation and say “how can we both support each other.”
I got that too he was frustrated by the double standards & leaving black ppl out of these fights but wants BIPOC community to fight for them
But Dave needs to be open to the fact that he may be wrong as well
@@skeedamacknn there are many black LGBT activists that fight for both the LGBT and black community. They’re just ignored
"I don't make the rules for heaven"
This one statement hints that we don't decide the things about our world. Something I think most people forget when trying to figure life out.
Hmmmm
The werewolf story 😂😂 had me laughing so hard.
“To what extent do I have to participate in your self image?”
I love how people intentionally conflate this issue. Religion is belief. No one cares if a person believes or feels they are a man or woman. No one is going to bully you because of that. The issue is that the trans community wants to bully (cancel) others who don’t believe them to be a different gender. Be what the hell you want to be, just don’t get mad if I don’t agree with a man dressed as a woman walking into a bathroom with my daughter.
It's funny, shows how it went over your head. He highlighted the holes in their ideology. He said you can believe it, but here are the faults in your thought process and here are one of your people I learnt with, we both co existed but it was her own that tore her apart.
He did it with comedy in story format and very poignant end. It's a very specific art that ONLY he has the ability to do which makes him the GOAT. Even when he references himself and his lifestyle he doesn't take it seriously. Ironically he stood up for women, as a woman I felt it.
Do you believe Trump is racist? If so, if he had a black friend that told you that he wasn't, would that make you think he's any less racist?
I agree. As a woman, I feel like he stood up for me as well.
The real question is: If we don’t believe that Charlemagne became a werewolf are we immoral?
Nah we're wolfphobic
Pretty sure he was putting out the discrepancy issues that exist between blacks and gays…it isn’t equal🤷🏼♀️✅
See even when you make comments like that it’s as if you’re saying there are no black homosexual’s And to say oh we’re treated poorly so who gives a shit about how you’re treated is a pretty stupid defense
Yes, Dave Chappelle is one of the greatest storytellers! That's why it's so hard to mimic Dave Chappelle, because he has a way of centralizing a "punch line" based on stories.
Should also listen to Dave Choe as well. My top 2 most interesting people to listen to.
Schulz spot on about comedians evolving into philosophers. Diogenes is the earliest recorded comedian[according to Greek history].
I love stand up comedy and its true that philosophers can be funny and comedians can be insightful, but to say that comedians evolve into philosophers is an insult against philosophers lol
I'm studying philosophy, theology, epistemology, ontology, etc, that simply isn't the same as jokes with social commentary.
B
@@Soulful96QC not every comedian obviously..
@@Soulful96QC sounds like you won’t be a good philosopher if you can’t decipher his simple statement. Good luck making money after you finish studying someone else’s philosophy.
Diogenes was the only REAL philosopher, putting his ideas to the test. He's been framed in a certain light because he pissed off the others so much. And only a few comedians evolved into a sort of philosopher. Carlin and Chappelle among those few.
That’s what Dave’s points was stop beating my ppl down meaning “comedians”
Andy goes after the GOAT a lot. At some point it's jealousy...
he is like this since joe rogan brought his name in his podcast with dave..and dave simply said that what andy is doing is not for him..
This was the best conversation about the Closer
Yes, it's brilliant and hilarious.
I didn’t laugh that hard it was pretty funny Idk if that’s just cause I’m white tho
@ws 2019 lol I still don’t get that perspective tho like a lot of the jokes are about white people and it’s specifically about the lgbtq community but I just kinda wanted him to move on
@ws 2019 yeah but that doesn’t make it funnier than it actually is it was funny just not that funny
People have to accept that we can have a righteous disagreement but still love each other.
The fact that Charlemagne is trying to defend trans people instead of speaking on Daves point about blacks, and Charlemagne himself being black, lets you know what side he's on.
none of them watched that special. no way they did because the point was clearly lost on them
If you still think that this is about sides then you didn't get what DC was trying to say.
@@JSantos722 I think that even if you watched it, his point gets lost unless you’re a good listener
@@islabee94 you prove my point lol
Why does he even need to take side? He has no dog in this fight. Too many people feel like people need to pick sides in fights they aren't even in.
The guy in the center speaks some real truth
Charlemagne seems to know everything about this special, for someone who claim not to have seen it
Yeah I can’t listen to him anymore. He’s a joke
Exactly lol
100% he stood up to the bully & is still standing
Comedy is an art form.
What everyone including him forgets about arts is that it’s ambiguous by nature but expected to be interpreted how the artist intended.
That’s why you think about why and what influenced it.
Some are is abstract intentionally and some art is directional and intentional.
David’s art is lost in translation
"Intellectual dishonest" perfectly stated.
I appreciate you all for being open-minded and unpacking the situation, but this backlash is about one thing… Power.
I absolutely love charlamagne and Schultz TOGETHER!!!! ❤
There trash
Andrew explained Dave's stand up very well. He's more of a philosopher at this point and yes he can make us laugh at any point .. however, I didn't find it funny but I didn't find it problematic.
i’m so grad schultz brought up carlin because that’s literally what i think about dave as well. legends.
Cancel culture is there because of the politicians who support progressive stances but sometimes relentlessly, more people who didn't at once are feeling empowered.
That laugh at 9:23! Lmfao
When he TRANSformed😂😂😂
Dave is my generations comidian GOAT
GOOT
Y everyone ignoring the fact the dave friend killed her /him self because of her own community
really impressed by andrews understanding of the trans communinites issues of the special!
Honestly. He really gets it.
Trans to needy
There are no issues . Obama made it a thing by tapping universities
That Charla werewolf story never gets old 🐺🌝🤣
Fair but George Carlin was the best storytelling comedian
I would say Carlin wasn’t as story heavy as he was philosophy heavy. Carlin was more about concepts, more about analyzing language/politics/reality. Prior was big on telling stories. Picture when he accidentally lit himself on fire
Damn charla with “that pushed over the edge “ liner lol
Don't act like Charlamagne don't look like he wear eyeliner, with his brows on point.... that's why Dave made that joke about him. Man's got a feminine face.
Exactly! And he already said he uses eye liner 😂
😂 nah, wax made me laugh 😭🤣
I wouldn’t consider Chappelle’s special as 100% the conventional comedy as we are used to seeing. Mixes both comedy and social commentary. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t powerful. I think it is. He takes comedy to the next level.
Schulz was spitting profound fax this whole episode and I just feel like these guys ain't hearing it lol😅 14:26 🔥
Just curious but am I the only one that watched the special and noticed the 2 white women in the middle looking all angry when everyone else around them was laughing and having a good time?
EXACTLY. ONCE U SEE THEM, U CANT UNSEE IT LOL
@@h3nriqu33 Totally agree, lol. They looked miserable, lol
@@beanbagcrew9892 the point of your comment is...what ?
@@manjb7097 It's an observation of something that stood out to me and was curious if it stood out to anyone else. To go to a comedy show and not have a sense of humor is odd to "me".
@@beanbagcrew9892 fair enough.
The problem is trying to force people to have the same perspective. It's impossible. What should be focused on is allowing people to be what they want to be. Whether it's gay or straight. Neither should impact the other.
very nice
@Michael Johnson i very much agree with the first part, but the second part exemplifies the problem: who defines the line? Aside obvious hate speech, who determines what is aceptable or not, and in what context?
is an honest question
I've been conflicted on how I feel about the special. Love Dave and all his specials but don't think this one deserves all the attention its getting (positive or negative). Don't think it is controversial enough to be "cancellable" or get the hate that it got but my problem with it is just that it wasn't funny. Like not funny at all. It was good story telling and I always enjoy Dave's wisdom but I didn't find myself laughing much at all. There was a few sharp exhales through the nose and "that's a good point" but we can't say a stand up special was good just because its Dave. At this point I think he could walk up to the stage, fart in the mic, walk off and everyone would be like, "Oh my god Dave is a genius"
i feel you
I remember watching one of his specials where he said , and i'm paraphrasing here; "i'm so fucking famous that i can say whatever i want and you'll pay me lots of money for it'
Yes it was funny, brutally funny.
You sound jealous
@@tilabryant5591 I mean aren’t we all a bit jealous of Dave 😂 he’s a goat. The tone of my comment was more so disappointed and confused though at why the special is getting so much attention. I wish he would’ve made his jokes more offensive tbh atleast then it would’ve been funny. Instead of just going up and making a bunch of valid points about the trans community and getting backlash he might as well have just gone up and actually told some savage jokes. It just felt like I was listening to my drunk uncle at the cookout complain about trans people for over an hour without even telling a joke.
Like music, comedy is subjective. I found it pretty funny and equally thought provoking. Dave along with people like George Carlin were great at telling stories or speaking truth power well also making it funny at the same time. All part of their genius, in my opinion.
Challamagne always trying to be careful himself, trying to play safe and not offend people...
Kwame reminded him, lol.
Charlemagne being a werewolf is amazing 🤣
This is what I was trying to explain to my friend lol. he actually thought that Dave Chappelle was somehow struggling with jokes lol. Dave Chappelle had already mastered comedy as a teenager, to think he would struggle with jokes is laughable (no pun intended). But yes Dave has become more preoccupied with the message than the laugh. Carlin-esque. One interesting though, is that while he didn't match the hilarity of his younger years, he matched the energy. It was a different energy from the other Netflix specials. This felt like the original Dave. He even looked less buff and use some of his old vocals.
Good point
@Michael Johnson Did you understand why he said "Im team Terf"? Also your analogy about Bill burr talking about a black guy coming in the bathroom is not perfect as you call it, far from it. Dave was talking about a person that looks like a woman, dresses like a woman and behaves like a woman comes into the men's restroom, goes to the urinal next to him and pulls their dick out. How is that even close to a white guy seeing a black guy come in the bathroom? Now please tell me, in context, what did Dave chappelle say in any of his last 6 specials that was transphobic in your eyes?
@Michael Johnson you've replied, but you've failed to elaborate anything you are saying. You call transphobia, but don't explain why is transphobic. You have not said anything about my arguments nor have you answered any of my questions. I know the reason you have not os because you can't. Just saying, "the joke about the bathroom" and "I am team terf" comment is not nearly enough to come to the conclusion that Dave chappelle is homophobic. I ask again, in context, what is the homophobic part in any of his last 6 specials? What makes that part homophobic?
@Michael Johnson "Misgendering transwomen is transphobic", ok, fair enough. When did Dave do this though? Please provide me with an example, because he has done exactly the opposite. He says multiple times that trans women are women. Your problem is that you are so stuck in your hate and misunderstandings that you can't understand what is being said. When dave Chappelle made the terf comment, first of all, it wasn't unironacally said, thank you for letting me know you really can't understand the context of what is being said. He was referring to the fact that he is a feminist by definition, and he believes that gender is a fact, which 100% is a fact and if you say otherwise wise you are delusional. This is enough to be called a terf by people like you, just pointing out that people are born from a natural born woman, and are a girl or a boy at birth is enough to be transphobic. Immediately after that bit, he says verbatim, "I am not saying that to say trans women aren't women", but you don't listen. Dave entire point is that we are humans, having a human experience, and we can respect eachother as humans. He is saying that if you feel like a woman, you are a woman, but that is not to say you are the exact same as a woman, there are still differences that are important, otherwise it would be OK for transwomen to compete against born women in sports. If you think it's OK for transwomen to compete against born women, again, you are delusional, and your opinion automatically becomes irrelevant to me.
Just because Dave is poking fun at the differences between a trans woman and a natural born woman, IN A STAND UP, yall get mad, and start pulling the transphobic card. And then yall have the nerve to say yall are not too sensitive. BItch please, you are trying to cancel a stand up comic for telling jokes you didn't even understand.
You keep saying that the bathroom joke is like saying trans women are crossdressinf, but you've failed to explain why every time. I love when people keep repeating how obvious something is but can't articulate that very obvious thing they are talking about.
@Michael Johnson and stop liking your own comments, it's sad
I am lost. Dave said, and I quote "I am NOT saying transwoman aren't womem". He said that he agrees w/the author of the harry potter books. Woman do exist. There are 2 genders. Now I am saying that is if a man transitions and is addressed / recognized as a woman it makes sense to me that she is now a woman. Anyone is open to comment. I respect and ask to be respected as well.
Daves argument is that they were originally a man and than transitioned into a woman. But that still means they were originally a man. Transwomen people are trying to say they were always women even before the transition which hes saying is false. And it is. You cannot remove biology to make you feel better. That difference is why transwoman should not be allowed to compete in physical events with other women. Thats not phobic its just science. Because a trans woman will have denser bone structure she got from being male which will give her an unfair advantage in competitions with other females .. They call it exclusionary where it isn't. Its a fact they have an advantage and some of the lbgtq community can't handle facts
@@MM-hf6om Respect
That religion analogy lost its wheels at the end there Andrew. Islam recognizes the Tora and the Bible.
Andrew was SPOT. ON. in this. Well done guy👏👏👏
Charlemagne so ready to trans defend he couldn't even watch the show first smh. Trash
He's just paying for his insurance policy for his whole Spanish Fly admittance thing. I don't think he really means anything he says.
16:31 lol brilliant
People need to get over themselves. Feelings are subjective and shouldn’t translate into the real world in any meaningful way
So what you're saying is, since it's about feelings, you would have no problem with white people calling blacks the N-word again? After all, they need to get over themselves don't they? Now this is the part where you try make excuses and/or use the trope of "that's different"; except it's not. Don't shit on other minorities and then be shocked if they decide to shit on you back.
On another note, there's nothing more disgusting and filthy than a member of one minority punching down on another minority. Don't demand respect if you're not willing to give or earn it.
@@JonInCanada1 minstrel shows were the #1 form of comedy in the USA for over 100 years.
@@JonInCanada1 lol thanks for assuming what I said. You might have to many chromosomes
@@Pexodus11 Except I'm not wrong am I? You proffered an excuse for Chapelle regarding words not doing any real world harm. I'm merely using that standard and applying it to a different word. That you can't see the principle at work would seem to indicate that it is you who is not quite up to speed.
Also, interesting use of a chromosome joke, as if to imply people with Downs Syndrome are somehow less than. Speaks volumes that.
Dave is headed into that George Carlin lane where instead of just telling jokes, his specials are social commentaries.
Dave Chappelle will never, in his lifetime, ever rise to the brilliance of Carlin. In fact (and yes, watch some of his interviews), George was an LGBTQ ally until the day he died. He would rip the black off Chappelle's ass.
12:06 JW's don't believe in Hell, so I see why his mom wanted him to go to the hall
Andrew hit the nail on the head with the heaven analogy
Dave is the goat!!! You can’t cancel Dave
He truly closed that shit. Chapelle GOAT
If you need someone else to believe something then you really do not believe yourself.
Dude a half a century ago the majority of the USA didn't believe black people were deserving of human rights and they had to convince people to believe they did. Wtf are you talking about
@@TheEvolver311 Buenos dias. Half a century ago a man by the name of Dr. King finally got the Black Americans to believe they were free regardless of what the whites thought.
Civil rights movement was because blacks believed not because they had to convince whites they were free.
@@elnachismo2553 no of the civil rights movement didn't convince enough white people that their cause was just the same oppression would have persisted and it was 100 years of convincing white people things like minstrel shows were offensive even tho it was the most popular form of comedy in its era.
@@TheEvolver311 I left a response but it was deleted
@@TheEvolver311 I’ll try it again
Chapelle is the GOAT. Period.
The funniest thing about Chapelle’s special was the lady with purple hair in the audience not only not laughing the entire time, but offended 😂 why did she pay to see him??
I was laughing at her the whole time. Trick paid money to be angry 🤣🤣
Say what you want, good or bad about Dave. The man KNOWS how to get eyes on him
@THE DRAMATIC MIRROR it’s fantastic marketing
I can't wait for everyone to get back to the place where you can have an opinion just as long as you don't hurt nobody over your opinion
Isn't that the problem tho we should be able to say anything we want w out anybody being a pussy about it
The problem with that is that people define "hurt" really differently.
I'd say if it's not calling to violence or discrimination, and not against the law then it should be fair game.
@@clavo6498 it seems like the majority of people nowadays are that kid in class that got angry at anybody having fun and would tell the teacher on them
@@robertruiz98 too me it seems like the old white ladies that would tell the courts to stop kids from playing GTA Or Mortal Kombat but instead of old white ladies its everybody my age now
@@clavo6498 being so sensitive and taking offense to everything allows you to justify to yourself committing horrible Acts. Like today a member of British Parliament was stabbed to death inside a church by a 25 year old person who had strong views against abortion. The fact that people who disagree with your views is worth death where's the humanity in that. Or like last week a child was rped in a bathroom but nobody's talking about it because they would considered transphobic. People are being sacrificed and swept under the rug just to protect people's feelings
The brother on the left has THE best laugh
Dave is like the John Lennon of our times. Thats good and bad at the same time. I worry about him
Of all the Netflix specials Chappelle has done this one is the best imo.
"No one can tell you that you weren't a werewolf for that second..." Yes, yes they can. He was not a werewolf in that second.
He meant no one can convince him he wasn't. Based on the experience he had. If I have an experience that's abnormal, you can't convince me it didn't happen. I remember it. Now my memory could be false...but unless you have evidence, I'm not believing it didn't happen.
@@derekaddison4835 Thank you for explaining it fully and even though I understood what he meant. I am here to tell him that he definitely did not turn into a werewolf. And I'm not going to try and convince anyone.
The part about the white, gay guy who was filming him and when Dave called him on it, he pulled out his cell phone and called the cops. To quote Dave "Gay people are gay, until they need to be white again. And THAT'S what I have a problem with!". Oh, Catlin Jenner being named "Women of the Year and she's only been a woman for 1 year" was a good point too. Funny how nobody is upset that he talked about white Hollywood feminist who thought dressing up in black gowns at an award show was a "protest", but didn't protest against Harvey Weinstein. I thin he's looking at YOU MERYL STREEP!
Its not a lack of understand. I fully understand the trans gender perspective, I just don't agree with their premise. Saying I lack understanding is implying that I have to agree with their perspective. I wish them all the best, and I dont think people should harrass them, and I will probably call them by their preferred pronouns because I not looking to just intentially offend people.
I will however refuse to call them by their pronouns if we are in a debate setting where they claim that sex and gender have no connection, or I will speak out and disagree when they want to give hormone blockers to children, and i will disagree with them if they try to put trans woman in womans sports.
“ my years were round like your Schulz”
I personally didn't find it that funny. Not that I didn't like it, but it took a serious tone. I giggled a few times and almost cried at the end. I thought it was close to being a PSA about not hating on people because they might kill themselves. And how much dave cared about Daphne.
Yea it felt more like a monologue with comedy in it than a standup special
It’s almost narcissistic to assume you have the right to not be offended, if you don’t like don’t watch it