Satan doesn't know when the saints are sealed only holy angels can see the seal they placed there so it makes sense that Satan will still try to deceive the elect.
Pastor Bohr, does Satan have a chance of “victory” if he can prevent Christ from presenting a church without spot or wrinkle? What will happen if Satan gets the 144,000 to sin? I am asking this to address WHY Satan is not giving up. Is there a quote in Great Controversy that alludes to this point?
If Satan had made Job sin he would prove that God doesn't really know what's in people's hearts. Same with 144,000. How could God guarantee that those who have passed the investigative judgment won't ever sin again, or that those who haven't and those who have never been Christians wouldn't repent given a little bit more time and one more chance? The first part will be proved after close of probation, the second after a 1000 years. Saved will retain the free will throughout the eternity and never sin again.
Thank you so much Pastor Bohr, this was explained very well. You are right this is a hot topic, and like grassfire there is another idea out there that not only Satan appears before the close of probation, but also that his personation of Christ is the abomination of desolation. I too have read Ellen White’s quote you mentioned about how the Sunday Law is the abomination of desolation. I can’t remember where this is located though. Can you please remind me where it is that I can find this quote? Thank you in advance, and May God continue to bless and lead you both. 🙏 for you both. May God help His people through these turbulent times of confusion by staying close to Jesus and His Word. Amen
One effort more, and then Satan’s last device is employed. He hears the unceasing cry for Christ to come, for Christ to deliver them. This last strategy is to personate Christ and make them think their prayers are answered. But this answers to the last closing work, the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place. [Text ends here.] . 4LtMs, Ms 16, 1884, par. 11
@@luke-137 Thank you. I thought I read those words a few years ago but, after watching this video when it was first released, searched but could not find them in the Great Controversy.
I just listened to this and I have to say I was really disappointed in Pastor Bohr’s conclusion on this issue. He went into a study on the word “then” in Matthew 24 and how it shows consecutive events but when he quotes Great Controversy pg 624 he completely left out the “and then” part in the quote. “In gentle, compassionate tones he presents some of the same gracious, heavenly truths which the Saviour uttered; he heals the diseases of the people, AND THEN, in his assumed character of Christ, he claims to have changed the Sabbath to Sunday, and commands all to hallow the day which he has blessed.” Point 1 - command for Sunday keeping comes after he appears as Christ Point 2 - It comes from Satan himself, not the Pope. Protestants will be the ones to enforce it. Point 3 - If Satan is commanding the world the keep Sunday then that mean that THE WORLD up to this point is NOT keeping Sunday. Meaning this is all before the close of probation. I think some deeper study into this topic is needed by Pastor Bohr.
Great study as are all of Pastor Bohr's studies. On this topic, I'm convinced that Satan will impersonate Christ before the COP. This is based specifically on Daniel 11:45 - Daniel 12:1 and Revelation 13. Also, look carefully at this statement by Sis White: One effort more, and then Satan’s last device is employed. He hears the unceasing cry for Christ to come, for Christ to deliver them. This last strategy is to personate Christ and make them think their prayers are answered. BUT this answers to the last closing work, the abomination of desolation (Sunday Law) standing in the holy place. 4LtMs, Ms 16 1884 par. 11. Note also the passge Pr Bohr read regarding Satan impersonating Christ : But the people of God will not be misled. The teachings of this false Christ are not in accordance with the Scriptures His blessing is pronounced upon the worshipers of the beast and his image,-the very class upon whom the Bible declares that God's unmingled wrath (future) shall be poured out. GC 624 p2. The passage makes it clear that Satan pronounces a blessing on the worshipers of the beast and his image, the very class on which God's 'unmingled wrath will be poured out.' God's unmingled wrath are the 7 last plagues. Remember that the plagues are poured our after Michael stands up which is the close of probation. Sis White refers to the plagues as a future event after Satan pronounces his blessings upon the people. So Satan's appearing is before THE CLOSE OF PROBATION AND BEFORE MICHAEL STANDS UP AND THE PLAGUES ARE UNLEASHED. In this age antichrist will appear as the true Christ, and THEN the law of God will be fully made void in the nations of our world. Rebellion against God's holy law will be fully ripe. But the true leader of all this rebellion is Satan clothed as an angel of light. Men will be deceived and will exalt him to the place of God, and deify him. But Omnipotence will interpose, and to the apostate churches that unite in the exaltation of Satan, the sentence will go forth, ‘Therefore shall her plagues (future) come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.’” TM 62p1. We are warned that in the last days he will work signs and lying wonders and he will continue these wonders until the close of probation, that he may point to them as evidence that he is an angel of light and not of darkness. RH Nov 17, 1885 Disguised as an angel of light, he [Satan] will walk the earth as a wonder-worker. In beautiful language he will present lofty sentiments. Good words will be spoken by him, and good deeds performed. Christ will be personified, but on one point there will be a marked distinction. Satan WILL TURN THE PEOPLE FROM THE LAW OF GOD. (Sunday Law/sunday observance) Notwithstanding this, so well will he counterfeit righteousness, that if it were possible, he would deceive the very elect (Math 24:24). Crowned heads, presidents, rulers in high places, will bow to his false theories.-The Review and Herald, August 17, 1897. In the last days Satan will appear as an angel of light, with great power and heavenly glory, and claim to be the lord of the whole earth. HE WILL DECLARE THAT THE SABBATH has been changed from the seventh to the first day of the week; and as lord of the first day of the week he will present this spurious sabbath as a TEST of LOYALTY to him. Then will take place the final fulfilment of the Revelator’s prophecy: They worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” 17LtMs, Ms 153 1902 par. 9. Look carefully at the following text from the GC: The Sabbath will be the GREAT TEST OF LOYALTY; for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the FINAL TEST shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the State, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God's law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other, choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God. [See Appendix, note 13.] She continues in the following statement: The Lord has shown me clearly that the IMAGE OF THE BEAST WILL BE FORMED BEFORE PROBATION CLOSES, for it is to be the great TEST for the people of God, by which their eternal destiny will be decided.-Selected Messages 2:81 (1890). Many have overlooked the following quote, and if you study it carefully you will realize it's referring to Satan impersonating Christ using spiritualism in Rev 16. 13, 14: I saw the rapidity with which this delusion was spreading. A train of cars was shown me, going with the speed of lightning. The angel bade me look carefully. I fixed my eyes upon the train. It seemed that the whole world was on board, that there could not be one left. Said the angel, “They are binding in bundles ready to burn.” Then he showed me the conductor, who appeared like a stately, fair person, whom all the passengers looked up to and reverenced. I was perplexed and asked my attending angel who it was. He said, “It is Satan. He is the conductor in the form of an angel of light. He has taken the world captive. They are given over to strong delusions, to believe a lie, that they may be damned (2 Thess 2: 9-11 where satan comes with lying wonders before Jesus comes). This agent, the next highest in order to him, is the engineer, and other of his agents are employed in different offices as he may need them, and they are all going with lightning speed to perdition.” EW 88.1. While this is happening, this is what Sis White said: I asked the angel if there were none left. He bade me look in an opposite direction, and I saw a little company traveling a narrow pathway. All seemed to be firmly united, bound together by the truth, in bundles, or companies. Said the angel, “The third angel is binding, or sealing, them in bundles for the heavenly garner.” This little company looked careworn, as if they had passed through severe trials and conflicts. And it appeared as if the sun had just risen from behind a cloud and shone upon their countenances, causing them to look triumphant, as if their victories were nearly won. EW 88.3 Note that the passage spoke about the third angel sealing them. This is obviously close to the time when probation will close as the sealing is ongoing even now. So Satan is deluding the world while God's people are being sealed. This same delusion is referred to in 2 Thess 2:11 which is preceded by Satan working signs and wonders to deceive. With regard to the statement below: The apostle John in vision heard a loud voice in Heaven exclaiming, “Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” [Revelation 12:12.] Fearful are the scenes which call forth this exclamation from the heavenly voice. The wrath of Satan increases as his time grows short, and his work of deceit and destruction will reach its culmination in the time of trouble. GC 623. Sis White refers to the Time of Trouble as a period both before and after the COP. For example, she mentions the time of trouble as a time before the COP but differentiates it from the time of Jacob's trouble when the plagues are poured out: I saw that the holy Sabbath is, and will be, the separating wall between the true Israel of God and unbelievers; and that the Sabbath is the great question to unite the hearts of God's dear, waiting saints. I saw that God had children who do not see and keep the Sabbath. They have not rejected the light upon it. And at the commencement of the TIME OF TROUBLE, we were filled with the Holy Ghost as we went forth and proclaimed the Sabbath more fully.” EW 85.2 “The commencement of that time of trouble,” here mentioned does not refer to the time when the plagues shall begin to be poured out, but to a short period just before they are poured out, while Christ is in the sanctuary. At that time, while the work of salvation is closing, trouble will be coming on the earth, and the nations will be angry, yet held in check so as not to prevent the work of the third angel. At that time the “latter rain,” or refreshing from the presence of the Lord, will come, to give power to the loud voice of the third angel, and prepare the saints to stand in the period when the seven last plagues shall be poured out. EW 85.3
Hi, I fully agree with your position and I pray that our leaders will see the light. And the light is that the GC is NOT WRITTEN in chronological order, but by the principle of REPEAT AND ENLARGE, as we can see the Satan appearing as the angel of light even in the chapter 36 of the GC. What I was going to try was to complement your statement with a couple more: The Sabbath will be the great TEST OF LOYALTY, for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, THEN the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the state, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God’s law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other, choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God. {GC 605.2} In the last days Satan WILL APPEAR as an angel of light, with great power and heavenly glory, AND CLAIM to be the lord of the whole earth. He WILL DECLARE that the Sabbath has been changed from the seventh to the first day of the week; and as lord of the first day of the week he WILL PRESENT this spurious sabbath as a test of LOYALTY TO HIM. THEN will take place the FINAL FULFILMENT of the Revelator’s prophecy: {Ms 153, 1902, par. 8} “They worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” [Revelation 13:4-8.] {Ms 153, 1902, par. 9} Traditionally we have understood the Rev 13:4, the Sea Beast, to be the Papacy, but as the FINAL FULFILMENT it is going to be Satan himself, as the 42 months clearly do not apply to the "last days" when "Satan will appear as an angel of light"... Also, The Lord has shown me clearly that the image of the beast will be formed BEFORE probation closes; for it is to be the GREAT TEST for the people of God, by which their eternal destiny will be decided. {2SM 80.4} Also, note the connection between next two statements: A time is coming when the law of God is, in a special sense, TO BE MADE VOID in our land [the United States]. The rulers of our nation will, by legislative enactments, ENFORCE THE SUNDAY LAW, and thus God’s people will be brought into great peril. When our nation, in its legislative councils, shall enact laws to bind the consciences of men in regard to their religious privileges, enforcing Sunday observance, and bringing oppressive power to bear against those who keep the seventh-day Sabbath, THE LAW OF GOD WILL, TO ALL INTENTS ANAD PURPOSES, BE MADE VOID in our land.51 {Mar 179.2} In this age antichrist WILL APPEAR as the true Christ, AND THEN the law of God will be FULLY MADE VOID in the nations of our world. Rebellion against God’s holy law will be fully ripe. But the true leader of all this rebellion is Satan, clothed as an angel of light. Men will be deceived and will exalt him to the place of God, and deify him.-The Review and Herald, September 12, 1893. {Ev 365.2} There are more, much more passages that support Satan's personation of Christ before COP, and is supported by Dan 11:40-45, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, Revelation 13, Revelation 17, BUT IT MUST BE SEEN BY THE PRINCIPLE OF REPEAT AND ENLARGE. I pray that Pastor Bohr and others who listen will see the deadly delusion they are teaching. I believe they are sincere, but sincerely wrong. We must not dig in our heels at any cost, because this may, and will, show to be tragic. Maranatha!
@@meikstrsworld Absolutely! It's okay to see things differently. Because you shared your stance on the subject, it's led me to see and understand the coming event just as you explained which makes total sense. Please continue to share as the Lord will use you to open the eyes of believers
@@TheHolyAvatior The big (or "great") time of trouble is when God withdraws His mercy from the unrepentant and causes the 7 last plagues to be poured out. This occurs after the close of probation. The close of probation is marked by the final test: the national Sunday Law (abomination of desolation). When it is mandated by law to worship on Sunday (not just not work), this indicates the close of probation has come (because the choice we make at this time will indicate whether or not we will worship God or worship customs of man).
@@TheHolyAvatior The answer is correct, I will add a minor detail: When we make the choice to reject the National Sunday Law that test is for SDAs & only us at first, then a little time will be given for Sunday worshippers to be called out of Babylon how long is really unknown, but people will not have any time to debate with the messengers of truth. When all the honest make it out like those saved in the ark of Noah the 7 last plagues will fall this is the dividing line Christ is on His way through the constellation of Orion & will arrive from the east.
@@stargazerlily7016 I think we underestimate the implications of "not just not work" myself included - with the plethora of invasive technology already available and that will be fully fine-tuned then. My prayer is that whatever the threats will be or how much more difficult life will be then, we will be brave like Daniel and stand firmly.
At 27:23 the whole world is not together already, case in point "Come out of her my people" and "Edom, Moab and chief of the children of Ammon" are still there but will be coming out soon. If the whole world was together already, the Image of the Beast would be already established. I love pastor Bohr's enthusiasm when he doesn't beat around the bush when talking about the Papacy, but we can't be saying things from the Bible and the SOP that are not there.
Thank you pastor Bohr. It's clear as it can be. Our problem is that we think that the great controversy is over with the close of probation. If it was, there would be no need for Jacob's trouble. Think about the experience of Job which would be repeated.
So he's gonna do giant magic trick just because he can't change saints mind just because to show off takes away the whole importance of overwhelming delusion and dismisses it I think deeper study is needed pastor bohr no offense but your conclusion lacks reasonable evidence
Where in scripture does it say Jesus feet will not touch the earth when He comes back? I’ve heard this all my life but am not sure where to find it in the Bible
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17: “For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the arc angel and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to MEET the Lord in the AIR, and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” It is taken primarily from this verse. We will meet Him in the air, which means His feet won’t touch ground. But probably the MOST clear proof from the Bible that will show Satan's coming as counterfeit is that when the true Jesus comes, every single eye on earth will see Him at the same time (Rev 1:7; Matthew 24:27). There will be no "Look, He is in the desert." Because Satan is not able to counterfeit everyone seeing him at the exact same time.
@@stargazerlily7016 what about Zechariah 14:4 it's not going to be that easy folks he fooled 1/3 of angels in heaven Bohr seems to think this is a cake walk
Every single eye on Earth will see Jesus at the same time, same moment. (Rev 1:7, Matthew 24:27). So, even taking aside the feet reference in Zec 14 (which has a different context), Satan will not be able to show up and everyone on Earth see him at the same time. (Matt 24:23-26). Satan cannot mimic Jesus’ exact coming. It won’t be easy, but the Scriptures are crystal clear. So we don’t need to worry that there won’t be any possible way to recognize the greatest deception.
I can't remember the source credit but I remember reading some years ago that Satan infers that the saints sins are forgiven, he also sees the holy angels around them, so he infers they are forgiven yet he doesn't know if they are sealed, I believe I read this from the GC Time of Trouble chptr.
I remember reading this too. This thought came to me as Pastor Bohr was speaking here, that Satan doesn’t know when the saints have been sealed. Now that I am actually writing this, I will have to investigate this further, because just as Satan can read the Bible, he can read and knows the Spirit of Prophecy too. Perhaps he’s just so deluded that he moves on this hope as Pastor Bohr said, to attempt to counter the Word of God and the Spirit of Prophecy. 🤷♀️
Satan is a clever student of Bible prophecy & you're correct that he studies the Spirit of Prophecy as well it is all from God, in God's Garden of delight he planned to eat the life-giving fruit of God to gain a boon of supernatural virtue that he thought would make him equal in strength with God's angels & regain heaven in a new battle or another part of God's creation so he will always use everything God has created to his advantage twisting it for evil, but no matter how experienced & knowledgeable he is with the Bible or Spirit of Prophecy books-he will never be enlightened like us as the Holy Spirit guides us, he is searching for God's words to counter God's next move, preparing ambushs for our people, but God doesn't reveal everything to us to surprise Satan and us: he has to keep us a little in the dark, testing our faith & at the same time to keep Satan from spoiling God's plans. God minimizes the loss of souls by surprising Satan in many incomprehensible ways as God compels Satan to yield again and again to Him in the great controversy; he knows all to well the power of the Eternal, but we have been given enough knowledge for our salvation, if God wants to give us more knowledge beyond what He gave through Ellen White He can & it is God's prerogative to bequeath His new light to us & the scriptures predicts He will still do that, we just have to move fast as He reveals present truth to us before Satan has time to formulate a battle plan with his angels & rally the wicked to hedge up our way to finalize God's plans. Satan's hate for God makes him not only want to contradict God so he could be his own god, but moreover he is a Devil tempted by his own temptations to fight against Prophecy even when he knows he will lose. Ellen said we could tempt the Devil to tempt us, he had done it so long how could he resist? Also pride, arrogance & embarrassment in front of the wicked which he leads, will push him to fight to the last no matter what, & he is willing to go out with a bang as the great leader of rebellion.
Satan is always playing the guessing game when it comes to the future. Sometimes he gets it right cuz he directs events as God allows some events to unfold most times he's dead wrong that's why many false Christ & many false prophets have come into the world now.
May I ask?🙋 At what point are the wicked already deceived and have the mark of the beast if the close of probation is after the counterfeit of christ?🤔
We are warned that in the last days he will work signs and lying wonders and he will continue these wonders UNTIL the close of probation, that he may point to them as evidence that he is an angel of light and not of darkness. RH Nov 17, 1885
He's trying to substantiate and re-enforce his false theory again. When Ellen White says "Tell them that Christ has warned against such a foe", what would the point be? There's no health message, the plagues are in progress, what's the point? Where are God's people at such a time? Key point missing from all of this is right in Matthew 24... "and pray that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day ❣ And the straw man argument falls... Notice also these particular quotes. There should be no question that the personation of Christ comes before the close of probation! "Satan ... will come personating Jesus Christ, working mighty miracles; and men will fall down and worship him as Jesus Christ. 👉We shall be commanded to worship this being, whom the world will glorify as Christ. What shall we do? 👉Tell them that Christ has warned us against just such a foe, who is man's worst enemy, yet who claims to be God, and that when Christ shall make His appearance it will be with power and great glory, accompanied by ten thousand times ten thousand angels and thousands of thousands, and that when He shall come we shall know His voice.👈-The S.D.A. Bible Commentary 6:1106 (1888). Satan is striving to gain every advantage.... Disguised as an angel of light, he will walk the earth as a wonder-worker. In beautiful language he will present lofty sentiments; good words will be spoken by him and good deeds performed. Christ will be personified. But on one point there will be a marked distinction-👉Satan *will turn* the people from the law of God.(implying that the people have not yet turned from the law of God!) Notwithstanding this, so well will he counterfeit righteousness that, 👉*if it were possible*, he would deceive the very elect.👈 Crowned heads, presidents, rulers in high places, will bow to his false theories.-Fundamentals of Christian Education, 471, 472 (1897)." LDE 165.3 - LDE 166.1
One final quote, there are others, but this will suffice and end any question without a doubt as to when Satan personates Christ. "Satan Will Be Deified In this age antichrist will appear as the true Christ, 👉*and then* the law of God will be fully made void in the nations of our world.👈 Rebellion against God's holy law will be fully ripe. But the true leader of all this rebellion is Satan clothed as an angel of light. Men will be deceived and will exalt him to the place of God, and deify him. But Omnipotence will interpose, and to the apostate churches that unite in the exaltation of Satan, the sentence will go forth, "Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her" Revelation 18:8.-Testimonies to Ministers and Gospel Workers, 62 (1893). As the second appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ draws near, satanic agencies are moved from beneath. *Satan will not only appear as a human being, but he will personate Jesus Christ, and the world that has rejected the truth will receive him as the Lord of lords and King of kings.*-The S.D.A. Bible Commentary 5:1105, 1106 (1900)." - Last Day Events, pp. 168 - 168.3
The quotes you have put down here all demonstrate that you are very interested in this subject. I am too, as most of God’s people who are awake need to be. These quotes are all giving an understanding of the death decree that will be given, at that point it is time to flee when this is given. Doctor Norman McNulty talks about this being the fourth stage of the Sunday Law, I am not sure, but I think this is the paper that is talked about that is circulating all around the world at this time in the Book Early Writings by White. I am familiar with what you are talking about… Norman McNulty does a very good job breaking down the 4 stages of the Sunday law in Daniel 11, and compares it to Revelation 13. It is very interesting to me how we have very godly speakers in present truth in the Adventist church, and yet this is such a dividing topic. Ellen White does call the Sunday Law the Abomination of Desolation, your quotes above do not contradict anything Pastor Bohr said if you look at the Sunday Law in stages, and see Satan appearing as the final act in the drama 🎭 and the quotes you mentioned as the death decree. 📜 Thank you for these quotes. We must pray 🙏 for one another and for our Pastors. May God bless you, you are most sincere. I have been looking at this topic for many years now. It is interesting how this is surfacing online as it is.
The Gospel Workers, p 62 I read you just quoted I believe is referring to the death decree 📜 circulating, also the plagues to the beast … I need to look at Revelation 18, I think that is where Ellen White is quoting from in reference to the 1st beast of Revelation 13. Once again, thank you for your quotes. The main thing for us as Seventh Day Adventists we need to remember is that Scripture will be our only safeguard at the end. I love and read Spirit of Prophecy too, a lot, and even listen to and love another Pastor in our church online who supports the points that you are looking at, but even sis White says in The Great Controversy that Scripture (the chapter on this explains this very well) will be our only safeguard. The other online Pastor also has discussed about the importance of quoting Scripture to understand Scripture points of topic. When we are brought to the test, that’s all we will be able to use. I love the quotes you shared very much though, to me they all substantiate the death decree 📜 stage of the Sunday law. Blessings~
@@pamtrogdon4109, thank you. I appreciate your comments. This should not be a divisive issue but a truly solemn issue to figure out. There would be no point in telling those who are lost that Christ has warned against such a foe. It would only enrage the wicked at that point after the plagues have already begun process. I can't understand why some people do not recognize this?
Having revisited this presentation, read Matthew 24, the relevant chapters in the Great Controversy and the copy of 4LtMs, Ms 16, 1884, par. 11 kindly provided in these comments by Luke137, my understanding is that anti-Christ Pope whomever he might be will start the ball rolling by deceiving or coercing the world into Sunday worship - except the remnant of course. That the plagues will start and (at the outpouring of the sixth plague?? when the remnant is most anguished and crying to Jesus for deliverance from the wicked and their devices) Satan will take over from his anti-Christ by appearing all over the place impersonating Jesus' glory as described in Ezekiel in his attempt to deceive, not the world, but the remnant into giving up their loyalty to Jesus because he cannot help himself from thinking he can still get them to fall due to his placing upon them the greatest anguish humans have ever had to bear.
I won't directly quote the Bible or Spirit of Prophecy for this but it is based on both, so 🤷 for this strategy I think is super helpful both now & before the COP when Satan personates Christ, it is not enough to know he will appear, because everyone who still has hidden sins in them will be drawn to him, so my point is we must practice hiding from Satan our thoughts, any temptation should not be spoken out loud for him to hear -the effect of the temptation must be kept only in our minds or he will begin to create an accurate a trap for an individual to fall into. Satan is a skillful general controlling the minds of evil angels, he will send them where he needs them to spy on us, tempt, test us then report back to Satan exposing our flaws to him, then he plans his ambushes for us; in that situation that can't be helped once we sin, but there is hope by prayer a devastating weapon against the enemy- I could go on but I wanted to keep this comment short. God Bless I want to help us for the coming great war.
At Jesus baptism, the voice of God the Father confirmed Jesus as His Son and The Holy Spirit in the form of a dove also confirmed. Trust that Satan saw and head the confirmation. Yet, immediately after Satan went out to tempt Jesus in the wilderness.
Satan himself is converted, after the modern order of things. He will appear in the character of an angel of light. Through the agency of spiritualism, miracles will be wrought, the sick will be healed, and many undeniable wonders will be performed. GC 588.2 Satan won't be able to perform "miracles" when the 7 last plagues are fallen
According to traditional Adventism, Satan is going to appear on this earth and masquerade as Jesus, in order to convince the world to pass Sunday laws. *Satan is going to mimic Jesus* in certain places of the earth and somehow convince the entire world to start worshipping on Sunday and kill those keeping the Sabbath. Stop for a moment and consider how ludicrous this truly is. Ask yourself, what Christian is going to believe a Christ who wants to kill people for going to church on Saturday? Christ Himself said, "For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them." (Luke 9:56) Who is going to believe a fake Christ that directly contradicts the words the real Christ spoke in the Bible? Christ would not even allow Peter to use his sword in self-defense. Can you imagine Christ ordering people to be murdered for worshipping Him on the Sabbath? What Christian is going to be foolish enough to believe a Christ who wants to kill people for no better reason than that they go to church on Saturday? The Bible clearly says Satan is a murderer (see John 8:44). Who is going to believe a Christ that wants to murder certain Christians? One would have to look far and wide to find a single Christian that is delusional enough to believe Christ is a murderer. If Satan made an appearance touting a "murder the Sabbath-keepers" plan, and tried to implement it world-wide, the entire world would rise up against him and crucify him. Why would Satan attempt something so self-defeating as passing a Sunday law? He is doing just fine now! The world is rapidly becoming post-Christian. Pagan, New Age, and occult religions are experiencing a tremendous surge in popularity. Secularism, materialism, and sensualism are eating out the heart of Christianity. Over recent decades, in most Western nations, Christianity has been losing members in droves. Why are Seventh-day Adventists looking into the future for persecution? Christians are already suffering record numbers of persecutions throughout the world. *With all the success Satan is currently enjoying, persecuting Christians and leading people away from Christianity, why would he want to establish laws enforcing a traditional Christian practice upon the world?* If he did so, he would be turning people's attention back towards Christianity, forcing people to spend time contemplating God and His law. He would be fighting his own best interests. The SDA end-time scenario simply makes no sense.
Satan's Personation After the Close of Probation The wrath of Satan increases as his time grows short, and his work of deceit and destruction reaches its culmination in the time of trouble. God's long-suffering has ended. The world has rejected His mercy, despised His love, and trampled upon His law. The wicked have passed the boundary of their probation, and the Lord withdraws His protection, and leaves them to the mercy of the leader they have chosen. . . . {TA 273.1} As the crowning act in the great drama of deception, Satan himself will attempt to personate Christ. The church has long professed to look to the Saviour's advent as the consummation of her hopes. Now the great deceiver will make it appear that Christ has come. In different parts of the earth, Satan will manifest himself among men as a majestic being of dazzling brightness, resembling the description of the Son of God given by John in the Revelation. The glory that surrounds him is unsurpassed by anything that mortal eyes have yet beheld. The shout of triumph rings out upon the air, “Christ has come! Christ has come!” {TA 273.2} The people prostrate themselves in adoration before him, while he lifts up his hands, and pronounces a blessing upon them, as Christ blessed His disciples when He was personally upon the earth. His voice is soft and subdued, yet full of melody. In gentle, compassionate tones he presents some of the same gracious, 274 heavenly truths which the Saviour uttered; he heals the diseases of the people, and then, in his assumed character of Christ, he claims to have changed the Sabbath to Sunday, and commands all to hallow the day which he has blessed. He declares that those who persist in keeping holy the seventh day are blaspheming his name by refusing to listen to his angels sent to them with light and truth. This is the strong, almost overmastering delusion.-4SP 441, 442. {TA 273.3}
One effort more, and then Satan’s last device is employed. He hears the unceasing cry for Christ to come, for Christ to deliver them. This last strategy is to personate Christ and make them think their prayers are answered. But this answers to the last closing work, the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place. [Text ends here.] . 4LtMs, Ms 16, 1884, par. 11
egw writes that satan personating Christ is the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place. so there are 2 more abominations that will cause a desolation : 1. sunday law. 2. satan personating Christ.
This may prove to be the most valuable ILTK yet. Thank you Pastor Bohr.
Thank you Pastor Daniel and Pastor Bohr! I always like these Q and A programs.
Satan doesn't know when the saints are sealed only holy angels can see the seal they placed there so it makes sense that Satan will still try to deceive the elect.
Satan is always guessing & second guessing God.
God always knows Satan's next move in the chess game of life.
Satan knows the Bible and prophecy. Satan's actions is what brings the close of probation and Jesus stands up to deliver his saints
Pastor Bohr, does Satan have a chance of “victory” if he can prevent Christ from presenting a church without spot or wrinkle? What will happen if Satan gets the 144,000 to sin? I am asking this to address WHY Satan is not giving up. Is there a quote in Great Controversy that alludes to this point?
If Satan had made Job sin he would prove that God doesn't really know what's in people's hearts. Same with 144,000. How could God guarantee that those who have passed the investigative judgment won't ever sin again, or that those who haven't and those who have never been Christians wouldn't repent given a little bit more time and one more chance? The first part will be proved after close of probation, the second after a 1000 years. Saved will retain the free will throughout the eternity and never sin again.
Thank you so much Pastor Bohr, this was explained very well. You are right this is a hot topic, and like grassfire there is another idea out there that not only Satan appears before the close of probation, but also that his personation of Christ is the abomination of desolation. I too have read Ellen White’s quote you mentioned about how the Sunday Law is the abomination of desolation. I can’t remember where this is located though. Can you please remind me where it is that I can find this quote? Thank you in advance, and May God continue to bless and lead you both. 🙏 for you both. May God help His people through these turbulent times of confusion by staying close to Jesus and His Word. Amen
One effort more, and then Satan’s last device is employed. He hears the unceasing cry for Christ to come, for Christ to deliver them. This last strategy is to personate Christ and make them think their prayers are answered. But this answers to the last closing work, the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place. [Text ends here.] . 4LtMs, Ms 16, 1884, par. 11
@@luke-137 Thank you. I thought I read those words a few years ago but, after watching this video when it was first released, searched but could not find them in the Great Controversy.
I just listened to this and I have to say I was really disappointed in Pastor Bohr’s conclusion on this issue. He went into a study on the word “then” in Matthew 24 and how it shows consecutive events but when he quotes Great Controversy pg 624 he completely left out the “and then” part in the quote.
“In gentle, compassionate tones he presents some of the same gracious, heavenly truths which the Saviour uttered; he heals the diseases of the people, AND THEN, in his assumed character of Christ, he claims to have changed the Sabbath to Sunday, and commands all to hallow the day which he has blessed.”
Point 1 - command for Sunday keeping comes after he appears as Christ
Point 2 - It comes from Satan himself, not the Pope. Protestants will be the ones to enforce it.
Point 3 - If Satan is commanding the world the keep Sunday then that mean that THE WORLD up to this point is NOT keeping Sunday.
Meaning this is all before the close of probation.
I think some deeper study into this topic is needed by Pastor Bohr.
Great study as are all of Pastor Bohr's studies. On this topic, I'm convinced that Satan will impersonate Christ before the COP. This is based specifically on Daniel 11:45 - Daniel 12:1 and Revelation 13. Also, look carefully at this statement by Sis White:
One effort more, and then Satan’s last device is employed. He hears the unceasing cry for Christ to come, for Christ to deliver them. This last strategy is to personate Christ and make them think their prayers are answered. BUT this answers to the last closing work, the abomination of desolation (Sunday Law) standing in the holy place. 4LtMs, Ms 16 1884 par. 11.
Note also the passge Pr Bohr read regarding Satan impersonating Christ :
But the people of God will not be misled. The teachings of this false Christ are not in accordance with the Scriptures His blessing is pronounced upon the worshipers of the beast and his image,-the very class upon whom the Bible declares that God's unmingled wrath (future) shall be poured out. GC 624 p2.
The passage makes it clear that Satan pronounces a blessing on the worshipers of the beast and his image, the very class on which God's 'unmingled wrath will be poured out.' God's unmingled wrath are the 7 last plagues. Remember that the plagues are poured our after Michael stands up which is the close of probation. Sis White refers to the plagues as a future event after Satan pronounces his blessings upon the people. So Satan's appearing is before THE CLOSE OF PROBATION AND BEFORE MICHAEL STANDS UP AND THE PLAGUES ARE UNLEASHED.
In this age antichrist will appear as the true Christ, and THEN the law of God will be fully made void in the nations of our world. Rebellion against God's holy law will be fully ripe. But the true leader of all this rebellion is Satan clothed as an angel of light. Men will be deceived and will exalt him to the place of God, and deify him. But Omnipotence will interpose, and to the apostate churches that unite in the exaltation of Satan, the sentence will go forth, ‘Therefore shall her plagues (future) come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.’” TM 62p1.
We are warned that in the last days he will work signs and lying wonders and he will continue these wonders until the close of probation, that he may point to them as evidence that he is an angel of light and not of darkness. RH Nov 17, 1885
Disguised as an angel of light, he [Satan] will walk the earth as a wonder-worker. In beautiful language he will present lofty sentiments. Good words will be spoken by him, and good deeds performed. Christ will be personified, but on one point there will be a marked distinction. Satan WILL TURN THE PEOPLE FROM THE LAW OF GOD. (Sunday Law/sunday observance) Notwithstanding this, so well will he counterfeit righteousness, that if it were possible, he would deceive the very elect (Math 24:24). Crowned heads, presidents, rulers in high places, will bow to his false theories.-The Review and Herald, August 17, 1897.
In the last days Satan will appear as an angel of light, with great power and heavenly glory, and claim to be the lord of the whole earth. HE WILL DECLARE THAT THE SABBATH has been changed from the seventh to the first day of the week; and as lord of the first day of the week he will present this spurious sabbath as a TEST of LOYALTY to him. Then will take place the final fulfilment of the Revelator’s prophecy:
They worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” 17LtMs, Ms 153 1902 par. 9.
Look carefully at the following text from the GC:
The Sabbath will be the GREAT TEST OF LOYALTY; for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the FINAL TEST shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the State, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God's law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other, choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God. [See Appendix, note 13.]
She continues in the following statement:
The Lord has shown me clearly that the IMAGE OF THE BEAST WILL BE FORMED BEFORE PROBATION CLOSES, for it is to be the great TEST for the people of God, by which their eternal destiny will be decided.-Selected Messages 2:81 (1890).
Many have overlooked the following quote, and if you study it carefully you will realize it's referring to Satan impersonating Christ using spiritualism in Rev 16. 13, 14:
I saw the rapidity with which this delusion was spreading. A train of cars was shown me, going with the speed of lightning. The angel bade me look carefully. I fixed my eyes upon the train. It seemed that the whole world was on board, that there could not be one left. Said the angel, “They are binding in bundles ready to burn.” Then he showed me the conductor, who appeared like a stately, fair person, whom all the passengers looked up to and reverenced. I was perplexed and asked my attending angel who it was. He said, “It is Satan. He is the conductor in the form of an angel of light. He has taken the world captive. They are given over to strong delusions, to believe a lie, that they may be damned (2 Thess 2: 9-11 where satan comes with lying wonders before Jesus comes). This agent, the next highest in order to him, is the engineer, and other of his agents are employed in different offices as he may need them, and they are all going with lightning speed to perdition.” EW 88.1.
While this is happening, this is what Sis White said:
I asked the angel if there were none left. He bade me look in an opposite direction, and I saw a little company traveling a narrow pathway. All seemed to be firmly united, bound together by the truth, in bundles, or companies. Said the angel, “The third angel is binding, or sealing, them in bundles for the heavenly garner.” This little company looked careworn, as if they had passed through severe trials and conflicts. And it appeared as if the sun had just risen from behind a cloud and shone upon their countenances, causing them to look triumphant, as if their victories were nearly won. EW 88.3
Note that the passage spoke about the third angel sealing them. This is obviously close to the time when probation will close as the sealing is ongoing even now. So Satan is deluding the world while God's people are being sealed. This same delusion is referred to in 2 Thess 2:11 which is preceded by Satan working signs and wonders to deceive.
With regard to the statement below:
The apostle John in vision heard a loud voice in Heaven exclaiming, “Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” [Revelation 12:12.] Fearful are the scenes which call forth this exclamation from the heavenly voice. The wrath of Satan increases as his time grows short, and his work of deceit and destruction will reach its culmination in the time of trouble. GC 623.
Sis White refers to the Time of Trouble as a period both before and after the COP. For example, she mentions the time of trouble as a time before the COP but differentiates it from the time of Jacob's trouble when the plagues are poured out:
I saw that the holy Sabbath is, and will be, the separating wall between the true Israel of God and unbelievers; and that the Sabbath is the great question to unite the hearts of God's dear, waiting saints. I saw that God had children who do not see and keep the Sabbath. They have not rejected the light upon it. And at the commencement of the TIME OF TROUBLE, we were filled with the Holy Ghost as we went forth and proclaimed the Sabbath more fully.” EW 85.2
“The commencement of that time of trouble,” here mentioned does not refer to the time when the plagues shall begin to be poured out, but to a short period just before they are poured out, while Christ is in the sanctuary. At that time, while the work of salvation is closing, trouble will be coming on the earth, and the nations will be angry, yet held in check so as not to prevent the work of the third angel. At that time the “latter rain,” or refreshing from the presence of the Lord, will come, to give power to the loud voice of the third angel, and prepare the saints to stand in the period when the seven last plagues shall be poured out. EW 85.3
I read your whole post and wished there was more to read. Great explanation, thank you
@@jeanfede2372 I'm glad you enjoyed it. I love Pr Bohr's explanation on the topic, I just see the event differently. 😀
Hi, I fully agree with your position and I pray that our leaders will see the light. And the light is that the GC is NOT WRITTEN in chronological order, but by the principle of REPEAT AND ENLARGE, as we can see the Satan appearing as the angel of light even in the chapter 36 of the GC.
What I was going to try was to complement your statement with a couple more:
The Sabbath will be the great TEST OF LOYALTY, for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, THEN the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the state, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God’s law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other, choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God. {GC 605.2}
In the last days Satan WILL APPEAR as an angel of light, with great power and heavenly glory, AND CLAIM to be the lord of the whole earth. He WILL DECLARE that the Sabbath has been changed from the seventh to the first day of the week; and as lord of the first day of the week he WILL PRESENT this spurious sabbath as a test of LOYALTY TO HIM. THEN will take place the FINAL FULFILMENT of the Revelator’s prophecy: {Ms 153, 1902, par. 8}
“They worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” [Revelation 13:4-8.] {Ms 153, 1902, par. 9}
Traditionally we have understood the Rev 13:4, the Sea Beast, to be the Papacy, but as the FINAL FULFILMENT it is going to be Satan himself, as the 42 months clearly do not apply to the "last days" when "Satan will appear as an angel of light"...
Also,
The Lord has shown me clearly that the image of the beast will be formed BEFORE probation closes; for it is to be the GREAT TEST for the people of God, by which their eternal destiny will be decided. {2SM 80.4}
Also, note the connection between next two statements:
A time is coming when the law of God is, in a special sense, TO BE MADE VOID in our land [the United States]. The rulers of our nation will, by legislative enactments, ENFORCE THE SUNDAY LAW, and thus God’s people will be brought into great peril. When our nation, in its legislative councils, shall enact laws to bind the consciences of men in regard to their religious privileges, enforcing Sunday observance, and bringing oppressive power to bear against those who keep the seventh-day Sabbath, THE LAW OF GOD WILL, TO ALL INTENTS ANAD PURPOSES, BE MADE VOID in our land.51 {Mar 179.2}
In this age antichrist WILL APPEAR as the true Christ, AND THEN the law of God will be FULLY MADE VOID in the nations of our world. Rebellion against God’s holy law will be fully ripe. But the true leader of all this rebellion is Satan, clothed as an angel of light. Men will be deceived and will exalt him to the place of God, and deify him.-The Review and Herald, September 12, 1893. {Ev 365.2}
There are more, much more passages that support Satan's personation of Christ before COP, and is supported by Dan 11:40-45, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, Revelation 13, Revelation 17, BUT IT MUST BE SEEN BY THE PRINCIPLE OF REPEAT AND ENLARGE.
I pray that Pastor Bohr and others who listen will see the deadly delusion they are teaching. I believe they are sincere, but sincerely wrong. We must not dig in our heels at any cost, because this may, and will, show to be tragic.
Maranatha!
@@meikstrsworld Absolutely! It's okay to see things differently. Because you shared your stance on the subject, it's led me to see and understand the coming event just as you explained which makes total sense. Please continue to share as the Lord will use you to open the eyes of believers
@@vrcun AMEN
Will we know when the time of trouble is come?
the "little" or the "big" time of trouble?
@@stargazerlily7016 big? And also the close of probation?
@@TheHolyAvatior The big (or "great") time of trouble is when God withdraws His mercy from the unrepentant and causes the 7 last plagues to be poured out. This occurs after the close of probation.
The close of probation is marked by the final test: the national Sunday Law (abomination of desolation). When it is mandated by law to worship on Sunday (not just not work), this indicates the close of probation has come (because the choice we make at this time will indicate whether or not we will worship God or worship customs of man).
@@TheHolyAvatior The answer is correct, I will add a minor detail: When we make the choice to reject the National Sunday Law that test is for SDAs & only us at first, then a little time will be given for Sunday worshippers to be called out of Babylon how long is really unknown, but people will not have any time to debate with the messengers of truth. When all the honest make it out like those saved in the ark of Noah the 7 last plagues will fall this is the dividing line Christ is on His way through the constellation of Orion & will arrive from the east.
@@stargazerlily7016 I think we underestimate the implications of "not just not work" myself included - with the plethora of invasive technology already available and that will be fully fine-tuned then. My prayer is that whatever the threats will be or how much more difficult life will be then, we will be brave like Daniel and stand firmly.
At 27:23 the whole world is not together already, case in point "Come out of her my people" and "Edom, Moab and chief of the children of Ammon" are still there but will be coming out soon. If the whole world was together already, the Image of the Beast would be already established.
I love pastor Bohr's enthusiasm when he doesn't beat around the bush when talking about the Papacy, but we can't be saying things from the Bible and the SOP that are not there.
Thank you pastor Bohr. It's clear as it can be. Our problem is that we think that the great controversy is over with the close of probation. If it was, there would be no need for Jacob's trouble. Think about the experience of Job which would be repeated.
Thank you, because I was confused about this.
So he's gonna do giant magic trick just because he can't change saints mind just because to show off takes away the whole importance of overwhelming delusion and dismisses it I think deeper study is needed pastor bohr no offense but your conclusion lacks reasonable evidence
Where in scripture does it say Jesus feet will not touch the earth when He comes back? I’ve heard this all my life but am not sure where to find it in the Bible
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17:
“For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the arc angel and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to MEET the Lord in the AIR, and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
It is taken primarily from this verse. We will meet Him in the air, which means His feet won’t touch ground.
But probably the MOST clear proof from the Bible that will show Satan's coming as counterfeit is that when the true Jesus comes, every single eye on earth will see Him at the same time (Rev 1:7; Matthew 24:27). There will be no "Look, He is in the desert." Because Satan is not able to counterfeit everyone seeing him at the exact same time.
@@stargazerlily7016 thank you for taking the time to reply! I really appreciate this!
@@CheyenneRosero my pleasure!! 🙂
@@stargazerlily7016 what about Zechariah 14:4 it's not going to be that easy folks he fooled 1/3 of angels in heaven Bohr seems to think this is a cake walk
Every single eye on Earth will see Jesus at the same time, same moment. (Rev 1:7, Matthew 24:27). So, even taking aside the feet reference in Zec 14 (which has a different context), Satan will not be able to show up and everyone on Earth see him at the same time. (Matt 24:23-26).
Satan cannot mimic Jesus’ exact coming. It won’t be easy, but the Scriptures are crystal clear. So we don’t need to worry that there won’t be any possible way to recognize the greatest deception.
I can't remember the source credit but I remember reading some years ago that Satan infers that the saints sins are forgiven, he also sees the holy angels around them, so he infers they are forgiven yet he doesn't know if they are sealed, I believe I read this from the GC Time of Trouble chptr.
I remember reading this too. This thought came to me as Pastor Bohr was speaking here, that Satan doesn’t know when the saints have been sealed. Now that I am actually writing this, I will have to investigate this further, because just as Satan can read the Bible, he can read and knows the Spirit of Prophecy too. Perhaps he’s just so deluded that he moves on this hope as Pastor Bohr said, to attempt to counter the Word of God and the Spirit of Prophecy. 🤷♀️
Satan is a clever student of Bible prophecy & you're correct that he studies the Spirit of Prophecy as well it is all from God, in God's Garden of delight he planned to eat the life-giving fruit of God to gain a boon of supernatural virtue that he thought would make him equal in strength with God's angels & regain heaven in a new battle or another part of God's creation so he will always use everything God has created to his advantage twisting it for evil, but no matter how experienced & knowledgeable he is with the Bible or Spirit of Prophecy books-he will never be enlightened like us as the Holy Spirit guides us, he is searching for God's words to counter God's next move, preparing ambushs for our people, but God doesn't reveal everything to us to surprise Satan and us: he has to keep us a little in the dark, testing our faith & at the same time to keep Satan from spoiling God's plans. God minimizes the loss of souls by surprising Satan in many incomprehensible ways as God compels Satan to yield again and again to Him in the great controversy; he knows all to well the power of the Eternal, but we have been given enough knowledge for our salvation, if God wants to give us more knowledge beyond what He gave through Ellen White He can & it is God's prerogative to bequeath His new light to us & the scriptures predicts He will still do that, we just have to move fast as He reveals present truth to us before Satan has time to formulate a battle plan with his angels & rally the wicked to hedge up our way to finalize God's plans. Satan's hate for God makes him not only want to contradict God so he could be his own god, but moreover he is a Devil tempted by his own temptations to fight against Prophecy even when he knows he will lose. Ellen said we could tempt the Devil to tempt us, he had done it so long how could he resist? Also pride, arrogance & embarrassment in front of the wicked which he leads, will push him to fight to the last no matter what, & he is willing to go out with a bang as the great leader of rebellion.
Satan is always playing the guessing game when it comes to the future. Sometimes he gets it right cuz he directs events as God allows some events to unfold most times he's dead wrong that's why many false Christ & many false prophets have come into the world now.
May I ask?🙋
At what point are the wicked already deceived and have the mark of the beast if the close of probation is after the counterfeit of christ?🤔
question what is the whole world together on?????
We are warned that in the last days he will work signs and lying wonders and he will continue these wonders UNTIL the close of probation, that he may point to them as evidence that he is an angel of light and not of darkness. RH Nov 17, 1885
He's trying to substantiate and re-enforce his false theory again. When Ellen White says "Tell them that Christ has warned against such a foe", what would the point be? There's no health message, the plagues are in progress, what's the point? Where are God's people at such a time? Key point missing from all of this is right in Matthew 24... "and pray that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day ❣
And the straw man argument falls...
Notice also these particular quotes. There should be no question that the personation of Christ comes before the close of probation!
"Satan ... will come personating Jesus Christ, working mighty miracles; and men will fall down and worship him as Jesus Christ. 👉We shall be commanded to worship this being, whom the world will glorify as Christ. What shall we do? 👉Tell them that Christ has warned us against just such a foe, who is man's worst enemy, yet who claims to be God, and that when Christ shall make His appearance it will be with power and great glory, accompanied by ten thousand times ten thousand angels and thousands of thousands, and that when He shall come we shall know His voice.👈-The S.D.A. Bible Commentary 6:1106 (1888).
Satan is striving to gain every advantage.... Disguised as an angel of light, he will walk the earth as a wonder-worker. In beautiful language he will present lofty sentiments; good words will be spoken by him and good deeds performed. Christ will be personified.
But on one point there will be a marked distinction-👉Satan *will turn* the people from the law of God.(implying that the people have not yet turned from the law of God!) Notwithstanding this, so well will he counterfeit righteousness that, 👉*if it were possible*, he would deceive the very elect.👈 Crowned heads, presidents, rulers in high places, will bow to his false theories.-Fundamentals of Christian Education, 471, 472 (1897)." LDE 165.3 - LDE 166.1
Amen brother 🙏
One final quote, there are others, but this will suffice and end any question without a doubt as to when Satan personates Christ.
"Satan Will Be Deified
In this age antichrist will appear as the true Christ, 👉*and then* the law of God will be fully made void in the nations of our world.👈
Rebellion against God's holy law will be fully ripe. But the true leader of all this rebellion is Satan clothed as an angel of light. Men will be deceived and will exalt him to the place of God, and deify him. But Omnipotence will interpose, and to the apostate churches that unite in the exaltation of Satan, the sentence will go forth, "Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her" Revelation 18:8.-Testimonies to Ministers and Gospel Workers, 62 (1893).
As the second appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ draws near, satanic agencies are moved from beneath. *Satan will not only appear as a human being, but he will personate Jesus Christ, and the world that has rejected the truth will receive him as the Lord of lords and King of kings.*-The S.D.A. Bible Commentary 5:1105, 1106 (1900)." - Last Day Events, pp. 168 - 168.3
The quotes you have put down here all demonstrate that you are very interested in this subject. I am too, as most of God’s people who are awake need to be. These quotes are all giving an understanding of the death decree that will be given, at that point it is time to flee when this is given. Doctor Norman McNulty talks about this being the fourth stage of the Sunday Law, I am not sure, but I think this is the paper that is talked about that is circulating all around the world at this time in the Book Early Writings by White. I am familiar with what you are talking about… Norman McNulty does a very good job breaking down the 4 stages of the Sunday law in Daniel 11, and compares it to Revelation 13. It is very interesting to me how we have very godly speakers in present truth in the Adventist church, and yet this is such a dividing topic. Ellen White does call the Sunday Law the Abomination of Desolation, your quotes above do not contradict anything Pastor Bohr said if you look at the Sunday Law in stages, and see Satan appearing as the final act in the drama 🎭 and the quotes you mentioned as the death decree. 📜 Thank you for these quotes. We must pray 🙏 for one another and for our Pastors. May God bless you, you are most sincere. I have been looking at this topic for many years now. It is interesting how this is surfacing online as it is.
The Gospel Workers, p 62 I read you just quoted I believe is referring to the death decree 📜 circulating, also the plagues to the beast … I need to look at Revelation 18, I think that is where Ellen White is quoting from in reference to the 1st beast of Revelation 13. Once again, thank you for your quotes. The main thing for us as Seventh Day Adventists we need to remember is that Scripture will be our only safeguard at the end. I love and read Spirit of Prophecy too, a lot, and even listen to and love another Pastor in our church online who supports the points that you are looking at, but even sis White says in The Great Controversy that Scripture (the chapter on this explains this very well) will be our only safeguard. The other online Pastor also has discussed about the importance of quoting Scripture to understand Scripture points of topic. When we are brought to the test, that’s all we will be able to use. I love the quotes you shared very much though, to me they all substantiate the death decree 📜 stage of the Sunday law. Blessings~
@@pamtrogdon4109, thank you. I appreciate your comments. This should not be a divisive issue but a truly solemn issue to figure out. There would be no point in telling those who are lost that Christ has warned against such a foe. It would only enrage the wicked at that point after the plagues have already begun process. I can't understand why some people do not recognize this?
Having revisited this presentation, read Matthew 24, the relevant chapters in the Great Controversy and the copy of 4LtMs, Ms 16, 1884, par. 11 kindly provided in these comments by Luke137, my understanding is that anti-Christ Pope whomever he might be will start the ball rolling by deceiving or coercing the world into Sunday worship - except the remnant of course. That the plagues will start and (at the outpouring of the sixth plague?? when the remnant is most anguished and crying to Jesus for deliverance from the wicked and their devices) Satan will take over from his anti-Christ by appearing all over the place impersonating Jesus' glory as described in Ezekiel in his attempt to deceive, not the world, but the remnant into giving up their loyalty to Jesus because he cannot help himself from thinking he can still get them to fall due to his placing upon them the greatest anguish humans have ever had to bear.
Amen.
I won't directly quote the Bible or Spirit of Prophecy for this but it is based on both, so 🤷 for this strategy I think is super helpful both now & before the COP when Satan personates Christ, it is not enough to know he will appear, because everyone who still has hidden sins in them will be drawn to him, so my point is we must practice hiding from Satan our thoughts, any temptation should not be spoken out loud for him to hear -the effect of the temptation must be kept only in our minds or he will begin to create an accurate a trap for an individual to fall into. Satan is a skillful general controlling the minds of evil angels, he will send them where he needs them to spy on us, tempt, test us then report back to Satan exposing our flaws to him, then he plans his ambushes for us; in that situation that can't be helped once we sin, but there is hope by prayer a devastating weapon against the enemy- I could go on but I wanted to keep this comment short. God Bless I want to help us for the coming great war.
At Jesus baptism, the voice of God the Father confirmed Jesus as His Son and The Holy Spirit in the form of a dove also confirmed. Trust that Satan saw and head the confirmation. Yet, immediately after Satan went out to tempt Jesus in the wilderness.
Satan himself is converted, after the modern order of things. He will appear in the character of an angel of light. Through the agency of spiritualism, miracles will be wrought, the sick will be healed, and many undeniable wonders will be performed. GC 588.2
Satan won't be able to perform "miracles" when the 7 last plagues are fallen
According to traditional Adventism, Satan is going to appear on this earth and masquerade as Jesus, in order to convince the world to pass Sunday laws. *Satan is going to mimic Jesus* in certain places of the earth and somehow convince the entire world to start worshipping on Sunday and kill those keeping the Sabbath.
Stop for a moment and consider how ludicrous this truly is. Ask yourself, what Christian is going to believe a Christ who wants to kill people for going to church on Saturday? Christ Himself said,
"For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them." (Luke 9:56)
Who is going to believe a fake Christ that directly contradicts the words the real Christ spoke in the Bible? Christ would not even allow Peter to use his sword in self-defense. Can you imagine Christ ordering people to be murdered for worshipping Him on the Sabbath? What Christian is going to be foolish enough to believe a Christ who wants to kill people for no better reason than that they go to church on Saturday? The Bible clearly says Satan is a murderer (see John 8:44). Who is going to believe a Christ that wants to murder certain Christians? One would have to look far and wide to find a single Christian that is delusional enough to believe Christ is a murderer. If Satan made an appearance touting a "murder the Sabbath-keepers" plan, and tried to implement it world-wide, the entire world would rise up against him and crucify him.
Why would Satan attempt something so self-defeating as passing a Sunday law? He is doing just fine now! The world is rapidly becoming post-Christian. Pagan, New Age, and occult religions are experiencing a tremendous surge in popularity. Secularism, materialism, and sensualism are eating out the heart of Christianity. Over recent decades, in most Western nations, Christianity has been losing members in droves. Why are Seventh-day Adventists looking into the future for persecution? Christians are already suffering record numbers of persecutions throughout the world. *With all the success Satan is currently enjoying, persecuting Christians and leading people away from Christianity, why would he want to establish laws enforcing a traditional Christian practice upon the world?* If he did so, he would be turning people's attention back towards Christianity, forcing people to spend time contemplating God and His law. He would be fighting his own best interests. The SDA end-time scenario simply makes no sense.
Revelation 16:13,14 , Satan (“Dragon”) performs great signs and wonders after the 6th plague.
Satan's Personation After the Close of Probation
The wrath of Satan increases as his time grows short, and his work of deceit and destruction reaches its culmination in the time of trouble. God's long-suffering has ended. The world has rejected His mercy, despised His love, and trampled upon His law. The wicked have passed the boundary of their probation, and the Lord withdraws His protection, and leaves them to the mercy of the leader they have chosen. . . . {TA 273.1}
As the crowning act in the great drama of deception, Satan himself will attempt to personate Christ. The church has long professed to look to the Saviour's advent as the consummation of her hopes. Now the great deceiver will make it appear that Christ has come. In different parts of the earth, Satan will manifest himself among men as a majestic being of dazzling brightness, resembling the description of the Son of God given by John in the Revelation. The glory that surrounds him is unsurpassed by anything that mortal eyes have yet beheld. The shout of triumph rings out upon the air, “Christ has come! Christ has come!” {TA 273.2}
The people prostrate themselves in adoration before him, while he lifts up his hands, and pronounces a blessing upon them, as Christ blessed His disciples when He was personally upon the earth. His voice is soft and subdued, yet full of melody. In gentle, compassionate tones he presents some of the same gracious,
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heavenly truths which the Saviour uttered; he heals the diseases of the people, and then, in his assumed character of Christ, he claims to have changed the Sabbath to Sunday, and commands all to hallow the day which he has blessed. He declares that those who persist in keeping holy the seventh day are blaspheming his name by refusing to listen to his angels sent to them with light and truth. This is the strong, almost overmastering delusion.-4SP 441, 442. {TA 273.3}
One effort more, and then Satan’s last device is employed. He hears the unceasing cry for Christ to come, for Christ to deliver them. This last strategy is to personate Christ and make them think their prayers are answered. But this answers to the last closing work, the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place. [Text ends here.] . 4LtMs, Ms 16, 1884, par. 11
egw writes that satan personating Christ is the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place. so there are 2 more abominations that will cause a desolation : 1. sunday law. 2. satan personating Christ.
He is interesting
FIRE COMING DOWN IS SUNLIGHT. NOT EVIL, DECEITFUL
How do you come to that conclusion??? Destruction with fire is Gods act to Destroy evil, for Eternity.
@@SaveTheBees Look at the user name. Smh.