Testing the Vevor Drill Sharpener Pt 2
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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This is an industrial Strength Drill Bit Sharpener! It costs more than others but, if you want something fast, easy and reliable, this is it. VERY impressive!
• MRCM new type easy use...
I found this video that may explain some things about this sharpener.
m.ruclips.net/video/9Fum_HzfrU8/видео.html
Wow.. that is a nice video, thanks!
@@WinkysWorkshop You should really make that a pinned comment.
@@erik_dk842 I agree - done
Thanks Mark for the more in-depth view of it. On the more aggressive grind it appears that only 1 flute on the bit was cutting and on the less aggressive grind it appears both flutes were cutting. I do value your opinion on it , and you've never misled any of us that I've seen. And however the cards fall I will say the name of there competitors product it's the drill doctor . I bought the most updated one they sold and have never got the thing to work. Even sent them an email and asked for help and got no response. I do believe I will be in the market for a new vevor brand sharpener. Thanks.
So I wasn't "seeing things". I was wondering if the more aggressive grind was only (or mostly) cutting on one flute. With that in mind I wonder if the possible error can be found and corrected for.
See above
That was a less than ideal slow motion shot. I should have done better. I was having technical issues with my video editor. It was and not recognizing the slow motion file I made so I slowed down the normal file. I really do think this was a frame rate issue you were seeing but it could have been some kind of resonance making it cut more on one flute. For sure the less aggressive grind was cutting a bit smoother. I think the drill was sharpened evenly whatever the cause.
I like this sharpener. I may have to trade in my Drill Doctor. Thanks Winky!
It's a good one.
Hello Winky, Love your tutorial on this product, but I would like if you measured the holes with a hole gauge and see what the whole diameter ends up being, do a part 3 video cheers from me, 😃👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks, I might do another review. The collet sizes are metric but a large overlapping range. It you put the drill in the smallest collet that it fits in easily it always works.
I bought the MR-20G which uses both ER-20 and ER-25 collets. This allows it to go up to 3/4". On my machine the cover over the collets does not have a latch, so if you are not careful when carrying it, the cover opens and the collets fall out. Don't ask me how I know. I made a latch using some Velcro and it works fine. Also, I work mostly in inches, so I tend to use inch size drills, particularly in the larger sizes. The metric collets are nice, and you can get them to grab inch drills, but sometimes not so well. So I bought an inexpensive set of er-20 and er-25 collets to hold the inch drills. All in all I'm very happy with the unit.
3/4 would be nice. I don't use it very often but when I do I sharpen 10 or 15 drills. Very nice machine!
Dunno if you are aware of it, but the best part of the demo for cut quality was when your drill started cutting around 7:14. Both flutes were pulling an equal chip~!!! That's not an easy thing to get whether by hand or elsewhere without spending a couple thousand dollars on a grinding machine.
Does it work as well with Inch standard, number, and letter drills?
Yeah, that as an indication that the drill is sharpened evenly but sometime it doesn't happen even with a new drill due to a resonance. It works perfectly with either inch or metric. ER collets have a wide clamping range and center perfectly. You just choose the smallest collet that slips on the drill.
The more you show of this drill grinder the more I like its abilities. Seems super well thought out If I were joking to but this one would be it.
It seems like a good one to me
I was wondering from last vid how the machine achieved the relief angle. Great follow up question answered
Thanks you!
Nice review. A drill grinder is a good thing to have they make it easy to grind your bits properly. I have had a drill doctor for a long time.
I agree... all I've had are small junky ones. This one is great
I agree
Excellent video Mark! Too much relief will make the drill into a screw on soft materials, particularly when people “step drill”. Your videos are so informative and you are not only very practical but show things in a way which is easy to understand.
Thanks you sir. Yes, there is an ideal amount of relief.
I bought the model B. I could not remove one of the two small pins on the web thinning/point splitting hole even using pliers. The pin had obviously been hammered in since its top was peened over. After some time, Vevor customer service recommended removing it with tweezers! I finally removed by heating with a small torch and using vise grips to pull it out. Very difficult. The supplied pins are soft steel and I’m sure the difficult one was bent and pounded in. I replaced them with polished 3mm hard stainless pins that I made my self. Suggesting tweezers was ridiculous. The tool does work very well but I hope I don’t have to contact customer service again.
Yeah I agree, the people you talk to have very little knowledge of what they sell. They might put their name on some products but they are really just a middle man. I'd say the tweeter comment was a Chinese translation problem.
I did have a machine shop(4000 square ft). I operated it for over 25yrs until my health cut me down. The Vevor had some qualities about it but it still should come with American collects for that price.
Yeah... it would be nice if the whole thing came from here.
That sharpener looks like it does a great job. Buying new drill bits all the time adds up fast too.
It seems to do very well. If you're like me you probably would not save much by buying this sharpener but one thing for certain, I'll never make do with a dull drill bit again!
@@WinkysWorkshop I just sharpen bits by hand. It's not perfect but it's good enough.
I bought the same drill grinder. The best investment I've ever made. This is a machine I am totaly satisfied with.
Great to hear! I love it... It's rock solid.
Mark, I have an earlier model to this one but it is essentially the same 13C rather than the 13D which I think yours is. On the whole I have liked it BUT there are some idiosyncrasies with it; firstly if the drill size is not exactly as per the stamping on the collets (which are not normal ER20 collets as they have the drill size hole on the back of the collet) setting the lip on the LHS of the machine becomes more awkward as you have to tighten the collet almost all the way to fix the drill's position and then it makes it difficult to line the 'lip' on the drill setter and trying to look at the drill tip while in the setter is not possible. Assuming this is done the next step works very well. For all the drills I sharpen this is as far as I go, if I use the 'lip' grinder it seems to grind too much off the drill and the 'relief' angle is way too excessive so I don't use this section. I have taken it apart several times to see what modification may be required to make it work better; so far no success. The machine is very well built and will last a lifetime so I am keen to get it to work better. I would also like to get it to sharpen drills down to 1.5mm.
I usually tighten the collet to where the drill slips a little and then position the drill. Smaller drills are more tedious but mostly because the shank if not sticking out far enough to grab. I'm not sure i under stand. Terminology gets weird. Lip angle from what I understand is the relief angle and if anything mine is not enough. If you are talking about the split point grind there are several adjustments besides the pins that effect this. Fortunately my machine came setup close to ideal so I have not messed with them. The block the collet sits in moves left to right and the small knob on top I believe controls the depth.
@@WinkysWorkshoptrying to sharpen a 4.5mm drill bit I have to use a 5mm collet and that requires quite a bit of tightening to stop it moving. If it needs adjusting in the drill setter (LHS) then the collet needs loosening but the nature of the collets means that it has to be loosened until the second point to break the fit and this makes the drill bit too loose to adjust properly, On your machine there is an adjustment knob on the top RHS of the machine to change the lip relief angle but mine doesn't have this although there is a tiny set screw that I haven't investigated yet. My suspicion with mine is that the grinding wheel is not aligned properly and so when the lip relief grinding port is used it grinds too much or the drill's length but as yet I haven't inspected the CBN wheel's mounting. All things to keep me busy!
🤣😝 I did not say that, I said I wanted to see what was involved in servicing it.😝 like changing the wheel out.🤣 Great video .👍🏻
Exactly! Hahaha
You were saying in this review that it seems expensive for a hobbyist, well, I disagree. I only say this because the grinding wheels alone are worth the value of the machine imo. Diamond wheels for any grinding (sharpening) applications are over priced now a days, as an example, I bought a 4" Diamond grinding disk for my Chainsaw grinder and paid $500 CDN, so imo the cost for this with two wheels and how well it works and is built, far outweighs the price tag lol, great review though.
Good point although the cost of CBN and Diamond have dropped a lot. I think Diamond is even cheaper than CBN now. I guess my point is that most hobbyists could buy a life time supply of drills for the cost of this machine. Or nearly so.
Great review, Mark...thanks for the shoutout.
Any time! Thanks for the comments!
Thanks for this Mate, I would not have considered buying one of these but after your review I definitely would if I had a need.
You're welcome
I bought one of these and I'm very happy with it. Well worth the $250 ish that I paid for it. Thanks for the recommendation! Way better than the "doctor"
Yeah it's higher than most but for sure a good one.
Mark, great demonstration in both parts 1 and 2. I bought a Darex M3 sharpener 30+ years ago and although it works well, it generates a lot of dust from the aluminum oxide grinder wheel and the bit itself; enough to prevent the parts (the drill holder and the adjustment screws) from turning smoothly. It seems I spend as much time cleaning up the dust as I spend sharpening the bits. Does this Vevor model create a lot of dust, or do you forecast it happening in the coming weeks or months?
There is some dust but not much. The CBN wheel does not wear so there is not dust created by the wheel. I tell people this and I think sometimes they don't believe me but it is true. The only dust being created is coming from the drill.
Thanks for Part 2. Still looks like a good sharpener
You're welcome
Mark,
You are 1000% spot on with this Vevor drill sharpener !!!!!! I went and got one after seeing your postings......this thing is amazing..... simple and easy to use....an outstanding value for the price.....way above and beyond others......Thanks for the tip......this makes u batting 2 for 2 with me...1st the 10 pack of LED lights and now this......Don't pass it up ppl...go and get one you wont be sorry.....I wasnt !!!!
Don
Great to hear! Thanks for letting me know!
I want one but it seems like there is too much confusion on how to use it correctly. I have a drill doctor and always have had problems with it.
Watch this vid here , read the directions and do it....def NOT confusing...this item is very very good, EASY to use and produces an excellent result......@@petebusch9069
👌👍👍 you have convinced me too, it's good to see real videos of machines for testing to make an opinion
Thanks
Nice demo. Thanks!
My pleasure!
I’ve had 1 for a few years. If you’re thinking about buying it you won’t be disappointed.
I do like mine. Thanks
In all videos about this machine I have never seen a demo of what the rear knob does and how to do it. Can you show?
I was told that it changes the depth of the split point. This is super critical and I don't want to mess it up.
No one has made a video and changed the knob setting to show what it does. Just want to know my machine.
On the first day of my apprenticeship I was taught how to sharpen a drill bit. Just a minute of explanation, then another minute of materials to drill. Ten minutes of trying and guiding. A lifetime of not buying a machine to sharpen drill bits.
I've sharpened my drills by hand for many years and did fairly well although below 3/16" maybe not quite as well. I've had a couple of drill sharpeners in the past and was disappointed with them. Mostly because it took forever to sharpen a drill. Who wants to spend 10 minute sharpening a 1/4" drill when you can do it by hand in 10 seconds? So, what pushed me to try this drill sharpener? I had 4 axles I made for a guy and each one had two 3/16" holes driller through them for a spring pin (the type that are split). These pins are designed to be enough over size to accommodate slight variations in hole size so you can normally just drill to size and forgo the use of a reamer. Anyway, I ruined two axles with a 3/16' drill I sharpened. It drilled the holes oversized. Instead of driving the pin in I could push it through with my fingers. It was a drill I re-sharpened. I replaced the drill with a new one and the holes were near perfect on the new axles. I inspected the drill I had re-sharpened and could not see why it was drilling oversize.
Bottom line... Most often you can get by sharpening by hand (I have for 50 years) but there is no way you will get them as perfect as this drill sharpener or a new drill. This thing sharpens drill to the same as new. Perfect!
Mark decided I would purchase the Vevor drill bit sharpener to find the company was sold out. Got on the list to be notified when they came back in to get a notification this morning they were in tried to order it to find again it was out of stock , did a live chat with a person from the company to find that they would probably not get them back in stock. Not sure but I think these company's use you tube to move product that has not sold in a while to get inventory down .
Hmmm... I was told that they would be back in stock but that it would take 2 month. They did say my video created an unexcepted demand. I actually contacted them about the sharpener so there was no intent to use me to dump inventory but maybe there was plans not to restock.... be we heard different info so who knows
@@WinkysWorkshop the world we live in today Mark. Who knows is right. Well I will keep looking. Thanks.
@@anthonycash4609 True... sorry this happened, good luck
Thanks for testing and providing the new info. It looks like it is a good little machine.
You guys have it really good over there. Less than $300 for this decent drill bit sharpener. I could not find this machine in NZ but something that looks very similar is $1,400 here. Looks like I will be continuing to sharpen my drill bits by hand :(
Yeah $1400 is too much to sharpen a drill. Maybe drills are also higher there but you could buy a lifetime supply of new drills for $1400 here. Looks like this one is now out of stock. Others are selling this sharpener for about $550 with shipping.
Try Hare and Forbes, they have one the same, PP-13C is the part number. I've had one for a few years in Aus.
@@jos89h Good info for those down under, thanks!
@@jos89h Thanks Josh. Looks like it is still quite expensive here @ $635.
I have taken a look at similar products in China, priced around $170- $350 (depending on the diameter of the largest grinding drill bit) with a 3-year warranty
Looks like a good bit of kit, have many Vevor products and can’t say I’ve been disappointed in any of them 👴🏻👍
I think overall they are good.
I have one as well. I have had several others previously and this puts them all to shame. I just wish i had got this machine first..!
I agree. I wish they were a bit cheaper but realistically they are a good value if you sharpen a lot of drills
I need one of these, ALL of my drillbits are so dull, I doubt they'd drill through paper. Lol
They work well. The price is high but they dropped it some. I think $256. It was over 300
Great video,Mark.Thank you.
Very welcome, thanks
Nice little grinder. Have you ever used a General drill sharpening attachment ?
I've seen them but no.
I have. Way too fiddly and flimsy.
The General drill bit sharpener I have is a Bulldog clone. It's not in the same ballpark as something like this.
Great review winky, I'm going to buy one for myself....
Let me know what you think and be sure to use the discount code
Available in Australia and called PP-13c Precision Drill Grinder from H&F $A645.00 with just one grinding wheel, spare grinding wheel $A165.00. At last some thing from China with quality. The same product painted Vevor colors $A860.00, some one is price gouging?
Wow... that is crazy. maybe AU postal rates? Import tariffs? I admire AU in many respects but their import tariffs and postal rates are crazy. In my opinion, destructive.
China has always had high-quality products, but your distributors require us to produce the cheapest They only purchase high-performance products from traditional manufacturing countries such as Germany and Japan.
I bought one per your recommendattion.
Cool... let me know what you think. i believe you will like it!
Does it uses ER20 collets ??.. if so do you think oversize ER20 (14-16mm) collets can work?
I don't think the stone is wide enough... or the hole in the collet holder.
Nice review!!!!
Thanks!
Excellent job.
Thank you very much!
There seems to be 2 versions of this, the MR-13B and the much more expensive MR-20G. Looking at the description it seems to be just drill bits up to 20mm. Do you know if this is the case or is there a lot more to it? Seems to be a lot for expensive for just that.
Great review by the way.
Looks that way but I'm not sure.
Expensive? Yes, not as expensive as the competition, I have one and it produces factory sharp drill points.
Absolutely. It works great plus since I made this video the price has dropped significantly.
Did we ever figure out what the adjustment knob over the top of the grinding wheel was?
No... I'm sort of afraid to move it. It works great as is.
I neerly bay drildokter but after see Your video i bay the vevor tank you verry good machine
Great 👍
Just keep in mind that the more aggressive cutting angles will require sharpening more often.
Yes, true
THANKS WINKY
Sure thing, good to hear from you!
I bought one after your last video it made here ran for 15 sec stoped it to set up drill bit started it quit and won't start. I am test there customer service
Oh no! Sorry to hear that. I'm sure you've checked to make sure its plugged in well... all the obvious stuff. Maybe try another cord on it. I think its the same as a computer cord. I think you will find their customer service good. If not, please let me know!
Is this sharpener made in China
Of course
Are we still asking this question?
What about grinding end mills?
No, just drills.
Please don't make your channel into a commercial channel.
Good point and I agree. I'd much rather do things like restore the 1917 Avery Drill Press. But then there are also times when the reviews enable me to do things in a much more affordable ways. Not so much in this case (the drill sharpener) but like using the Yes TIG welder to build the stand for the drill press. I think (at least I hope) that stand added value to the my content. You do make a good point however, and it would be easy to get carried away. Thanks!
I agree with wilkbilt, haven't seen any thing we'd want to watch on your channel in a while, you have great ideas but all these reviews are off putting to alot of folks!!!
To be fair, not many videos exist about this product. I have a drill master 750X, but if I hadn’t bought that, I’d have considered buying this.
@@honeycuttracing Hmmm... sorry to hear that. Maybe you missed my 4 part 1917 Avey Drill press restoration. I did use the Yes TIG welder in the video to build the stand but it was not a Yes welder promotion. I mentioned the welder to make a point however. Most often the products used in the videos make possible a project or future project. In the case of the drill sharpener... perhaps not but in most cases this is definitely true. With that being said, unless you were specifically investigating drill sharpeners I can understand the let down. The two videos regarding this drill sharpener have performed much better than most. In fact the first one was my number one video of all time in regards to the number of views in one week but, you are the 3rd or 4th person to express concern about a shift in content to reviews. So for the future here is what I intend to do. I will only review a product if I need it to use in a project. In other words, I might comment on a Vevor chuck I use while building a weld positioner. Two more things... 1) any opinion on products are always 100% honest. I always tell the supplier that I owe it to my viewers to be 100% honest. I also tell them that if a review becomes excessively negative I will abandon the review. 2) I know you are a long time viewer, I remember reading your comments many times (Thanks). Don't bail on me yet. Upcoming video plans... spacer block to increase the chuck height on the drill press I just rebuilt, stabilizing the chuck on the drill press (hard to explain) and adding a Vevor mill table to the drill press in which I install DROs. After that... I was thinking about building an Electric Buckboard Flyer. In 1923 they actually made an electric version called a Red Bug. Of course it would have all the modern electrics instead of the lead acid batter and Delco Starter motor.
Not all bad..
@Winky's Workshop not saying that you are dishonest about the reviews, just fact of the matter is when see "Review" of....., more likely not even watch the video and if do, probably ain't getting a like, more than likely it's going to be disliked and turns us(HoneycuttRacing) off to the channel, here to watch things being built, get enough commercials in the videos as it is, you said your peace and this is us saying our peace. Hope you have a good one and hope your able to get back to the videos that brought us to your channel in first place!
yup out of stock
WHAT??? Dang... I'm sure it will be back soon.
interesante
Its a good sharpener
😊
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Thanks I’ve been trying to quit buying Chinese if at all possible may have to keep sharpening bits by hand
@@mikec.9177 I did that for a while until I realized what I paid twice as much for was also made in China. It is sad but you will have a very hard time finding something made here. That's why tariffs don't even work. It's always easier to buy and sell than to produce. Even when the profits are less the effort and risk is also much less.
You say, “Uh” a LOT.
Uh... sometimes. Dang you're right, I should not have watched the video again. I'll work on that.
@@WinkysWorkshop OK, yeah, it happened 45 times over this 10:40 video. That's one every 14.2 seconds.
@@clifeddens1658 Man you must be bored.
After watching all of these drill bit sharpening video's I figured it would be easier to learn how to just free hand it. None of these machines are plug and play and all of them require significant setup time that if you don't get right it won't work. Every one of them leaves a certain degree of confusion on how to operate them and always seems like the end result isn't quite right. Nice video but I'm not impressed with the machine at all. For that money I would expect to just stick the bit in and it comes out sharp.
Interesting perspective. I agree that it is high priced but it is very quick to set up. Once I sharpened my entire drill index in about 50 minutes. That's just under 2 minutes per drill. Not too bad. There was a little trial and error on the split point set up but that was a one time event. With that being said, I made a slight improvement I think should have been included in the design that allowed me to change the relief angle slightly. Out of the box the angle is okay for a drill press but with a hand drill the bit it not very aggressive. The angle is not wrong as this is a mater of opinion and preference.
I like it looks like a good machine.
It seems to be very well made