LTA actually claimed in writinh that it was the dealers that specified the power output that pegs at Cat B. Why would dealers do that? I think something screwed up somewhere and nobody wants to explain why this car is Cat B.
I would think it is hard to justify the car as Cat A given the motor output itself is already 129hp and engine is another 105hp, both cannot be seen isolated on its own to give a combined power less than 130hp
@@joshuayuen7014 That is not how hybrid combined output is derived, even if it's derivable in the first place. Like the Nissan e-Power systems, this Honda is also a series type of hybrid. No matter how the engine and the battery powers the electric motor together, it cannot exceed the specification of power of the electric motor. The only point it differs from the Nissan implementation is that the car can switch propulsion from electric motor to direct connection to engine using a clutch to achieve an efficient overdrive ratio. However, the engine and electric motor STILL cannot combined propel the vehicle together. Hence LTA don't understand these engineering nuances and any how categorise this vehicle. Something is seriously wrong with their lack of expertise.
@@AK-pr6bq you aren't wrong surely, but to LTA they use the same measurement as other hybrids, plus AD/car dealers never go justify/appeal and left it as such. edit: something is wrong with Honda dealers in Singapore, that they are not disputing the Cat B COE, when the Jazz Hybrid 1.5 has an actual combined output figure and not for the HR-V. For a Jazz, it is already combined at 125hp with a 97hp engine + 107hp motor, so for a HR-V with 105hp engine + 125hp motor, again going back to my point earlier that it would be hard to argue that if a Jazz with lower power is tagged at 125hp, the HR-V can follow the same. also, I did not fully know the difference in hybrid systems between Toyota conventional and Honda's e:HEV until after searching it up a little, so I would safely assume that LTA wouldn't be bothered also and take info given by the AD/dealers as facts to categorise the car.
@@joshuayuen7014 Exactly. Anyone Joe who is keen enough to understand how different hybrid systems work, can do so on the internet easily. Yet these subject matter experts at LTA don't seem to be bothered to. Something is wrong with the people in LTA. From what I heard, dealers have raised this matter before but have all but given up.
Since it's a Cat B model, KM should bring in the 1.5 T variant in. More power and ppl would be alright with it. Since you're paying a premium at Cat B prices for power😂
CAT B but so low performance engine, nothing outstanding to justify the $. All those gadgetries - Singapore, how long of a journey; that these extras’ made a difference. Probably, just knowing having those as per paid. I think the average journey time within Singapore is about 30-45 mins; what’s the big deal???
If I'm buying a CAT B COE car definitely this is not the car, 1.5Ls car should belong to CAT A no matter what the torque. This is a CAT A car that LTA categorizes into CAT B so fewer SGrean will be buying cars and if people still want to buy it LTA will laugh their way to the bank for nothing.
Honda has a weird sense of humor. They sell the electrification hardware and tech in this car only to give the car owner a permanent eco+ mode. Not even a normal or ev mode. This variant doesn’t make logical sense. It is flexing its e-muscles only to sip fuel. Why spend money on a one trick pony that has a lot of potential only trying to be fuel economical?
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Only in Singapore a hybrid model will cost much more then its ICE counterpart after all the rebates! Huge price for going green...😅
LTA actually claimed in writinh that it was the dealers that specified the power output that pegs at Cat B. Why would dealers do that? I think something screwed up somewhere and nobody wants to explain why this car is Cat B.
I would think it is hard to justify the car as Cat A given the motor output itself is already 129hp and engine is another 105hp, both cannot be seen isolated on its own to give a combined power less than 130hp
@@joshuayuen7014 That is not how hybrid combined output is derived, even if it's derivable in the first place. Like the Nissan e-Power systems, this Honda is also a series type of hybrid. No matter how the engine and the battery powers the electric motor together, it cannot exceed the specification of power of the electric motor.
The only point it differs from the Nissan implementation is that the car can switch propulsion from electric motor to direct connection to engine using a clutch to achieve an efficient overdrive ratio. However, the engine and electric motor STILL cannot combined propel the vehicle together. Hence LTA don't understand these engineering nuances and any how categorise this vehicle. Something is seriously wrong with their lack of expertise.
@@AK-pr6bq you aren't wrong surely, but to LTA they use the same measurement as other hybrids, plus AD/car dealers never go justify/appeal and left it as such.
edit: something is wrong with Honda dealers in Singapore, that they are not disputing the Cat B COE, when the Jazz Hybrid 1.5 has an actual combined output figure and not for the HR-V. For a Jazz, it is already combined at 125hp with a 97hp engine + 107hp motor, so for a HR-V with 105hp engine + 125hp motor, again going back to my point earlier that it would be hard to argue that if a Jazz with lower power is tagged at 125hp, the HR-V can follow the same.
also, I did not fully know the difference in hybrid systems between Toyota conventional and Honda's e:HEV until after searching it up a little, so I would safely assume that LTA wouldn't be bothered also and take info given by the AD/dealers as facts to categorise the car.
@@joshuayuen7014 Exactly. Anyone Joe who is keen enough to understand how different hybrid systems work, can do so on the internet easily. Yet these subject matter experts at LTA don't seem to be bothered to. Something is wrong with the people in LTA. From what I heard, dealers have raised this matter before but have all but given up.
@@AK-pr6bq not surprising really
Great review! Hope you guys can review the SEAT Arona too since it’s in the same segment
Cat A car but LTA categorise as Cat B.
Since it's a Cat B model, KM should bring in the 1.5 T variant in. More power and ppl would be alright with it. Since you're paying a premium at Cat B prices for power😂
CAT B but so low performance engine, nothing outstanding to justify the $.
All those gadgetries - Singapore, how long of a journey; that these extras’ made a difference. Probably, just knowing having those as per paid. I think the average journey time within Singapore is about 30-45 mins; what’s the big deal???
What other hybrid options are available under Cat A that yall would recommend?
Yaris Cross, Niro, and Sienta full hybrids are cool choices!
- Jay
thats an insane price
Please review ZRV
Why never review the 1.5na 😢
Thank you.
Wonder if they'll ever bring in the Civic hybrid RS 😂
Too expensive for a hrv
If I'm buying a CAT B COE car definitely this is not the car, 1.5Ls car should belong to CAT A no matter what the torque. This is a CAT A car that LTA categorizes into CAT B so fewer SGrean will be buying cars and if people still want to buy it LTA will laugh their way to the bank for nothing.
Honda has a weird sense of humor. They sell the electrification hardware and tech in this car only to give the car owner a permanent eco+ mode. Not even a normal or ev mode. This variant doesn’t make logical sense. It is flexing its e-muscles only to sip fuel. Why spend money on a one trick pony that has a lot of potential only trying to be fuel economical?
Cat B? the BHP doesnt even justify it.
Same car but different category. LTA is a joke.
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