Didn't know about Nietzche's admiration of Emerson. I find Emerson easier to read (it's my own defect). Please, go deeper into this sympathy. Thank you for your videos.
I wouldn't be too hard on yourself. Nietzsche's language can sometimes be a bit clunky in translation, since he plays with German words and etymologies in a way that only a poet-philologist could. Anyone who's ever compared a translated poem to it's original language knows this problem of the rhythm being lost. Even when Nietzsche wasn't writing poetry, this problem still remains in much of his prose, since much of it is still borderline poetic, or as he himself states: "Strategy on the part of the good writer of prose consists of choosing his means for stepping close to poetry but never stepping into it."
"Shakespeare will never be made by the study of Shakespeare," as Nietzsche. This piece is so tallied with my thoughts, and these creators are the real treasure of human beings.
Please make more about these two. I recommend anyone who hasn't to listen to Emerson to do so! I found listening to him to be similar to finding out one of your old relatives is actually a bad ass.
I'd appreciate more Nietzsche-Emerson or Emerson related videos; I receieved his Essays recently as a gift but haven't really read it yet. Been reading Whitehead and Bradley lately. But with accompanying videos, there'd be less of a will to procrastinate finally reading the Essays. I've read some of the essay The Over-soul once before bed.
Love your work, always a great pleasure to see notifications from you. This channel is the reason I got really into Nietzche. Thank you for everything!
It's great to learn about the relations between important philosophers. Maybe in the future you could do a video about Schopenhauer and Leopardi, or maybe Nietzsche and Stirner.
Bravo! Another great insight! I know much of your content focuses on Nietzsche and philosophers who are now referred to as "Existentialists" and it is a natural step to extend that to the great US American movement of the "Transcendentalists" - not only Emerson's work but also Henry David Thoreau's writings. I find it so fascinating that these ideas were floating around in the collective-minds of great thinkers around the same few decades in Western thought, despite having no direct contact with one another: it is as if these select few saw what was "really going on" in their time(s). And much like the work of Nietzsche, the Transcendentalists represented a *blip* in philosophical thought that seemed ahead of its time, and therefore ran the risk of being lost altogether. Your work here keeps these ideas alive, and I hope you know how valuable that is for this modern age. If you were to expand on the works of the Transcendentalists specifically, I think it would fit quite well into the rest of your repertoire and continue to benefit the many. Stay well!
Great video man! Love the channel, it has brought me so much joy and helped me through hard times. I find topics comparing Nietzsche’s ideas with his contemporaries very interesting:) keep up the great work
I never made the connection myself but it is interesting how I have always naturally enjoyed both of them. I am more inclined towards Emerson's thought overall, but have always had a major appreciation of both. Interesting how that works. Thanks for the video!
you have lit a candle illuminating a perspective of neitzsche that speaks to me personally and through himself i feel. Maybe it was your words connecting the threading of understanding but your video was great, thankyou
Weltgeist, thank you again for a lovely video! I would like to add that some scholars have suggested that it was Emerson, as well as Le Rochefoucauld, who inspired Nietzsche’s aphoristic style.
Brilliant discussion of Emerson and Nietzsche. I am grateful Carlyle was mentioned, as well. Carlyle and Emerson could be called "philosophical kinsmen," and the voluminous correspondence between the two is proof of this. Nietzsche certainly had more in common with Carlyle than he was willing to admit--especially the way he and Carlyle exalted Heroic men.
I like how the channel targets many topics that are not talked about much in RUclips, even though philosophers like Nietzsche and Schopenhauer are famous.
This is a great video. Similar themes of adoration toward the divine nature of poetry can be found in other American Philosophers, like John Dewey. Dewey had a passion for poetry, believing it would one day take the place of philosophy and science. After this video, it seems like those ideas may have been derived from Emerson or Nietzsche. Either way, this is a great perspective!
Great video! I didn’t know how Nietzsche was in simpatico with Emerson. I haven’t read self-reliance but after this video I have high interest in it. Thank you.
Intresting things happens with poetry they have all the crux of theoretical knowledge of massé into an individualized form of supra emotional sense felt in heart without even following the all the logics of thousands of years of debates into a snippet a stanza to take it or take it afterwards even its rhythmic tones will make individual Empower, i mean that what a laymen remember last words of any poem or quote for personal growth, a portrayal of pragmatism bridging personal to political i haven't explored that part of Emerson and Nietzsche Yet But Yes With Ambedkar & Dewey it resonates. ❤
All the Boston Brahmins had a similar outlook. T.S. Eliot and even Henry David Thoreau. Yes, I would love some videos of Nietzche on these philosophers.
While watching your previous videos I wished you would make a video about the tension between western's "Decadents" (the term that I learned from you that Nietzsche coined), and thinkers who detached from Western decadents, such as Emerson and American Transcendentalism, and emphasized that the distinction between man and nature, form and formless, is really artificial. I am really glad to see this video! Thank you
Yes, I would be interested to see more about the influence of Emerson on Nietzsche. However, I am interested in hearing more about all of Nietzsche's influence, it would make understanding him easier. Also, it would be great to do a series on how Nietzsche himself was an influence, not just on other philosophers, intellectuals, writers, but society at large, especially how he has been negatively exploited like the Nazis or how his sister exploited him after his breakdown. I know this is convoluted, but I find Nietzsche fascinating because he is thrown around and used, yet very few know anything about him or his philosophy. Clarification is need to have the correct public image. Nietzsche deserves that.
Good trouble. Poetic justice. Peaceful demonstration of superiority. Better in the bedroom than battlefield. Violence is to abrupt and obvious. Go in sideways.
Thank for this video about the love of Nietzsche for Emerson. Yes, they have many things in common. First they both exalt the individual qualities and therefore the man standing on his own feet, the self-sufficient, the self-sustained. Second, their styles of writing are very resemblant, we feel the same dynamic, the same rythme, almost the same music even if the words are different. Now, to me the great difference between these "brother souls" is their respective view about Plato and therefore Socrate. Emerson clearly holds Plato and Socrate in reverence. As for Nietzsche, it doesn't seem to me that he ranks these two Greek philosophers as representatives of great men.
Dont take Nietzsche literally. He atleast knows, that if its not for NIHILISM of Platonism, Socrates or Schopenhauer, he wouldnt have had a need to explain his style of explaining EXISTENTIALISM as being atleast against the terms of those Philosophers view point. (in contrast to Existentialism theories from Kiekergard, Dostoevsky). So dont take Nietzsche literally
@@drrameshshrink This does hold much of the time. Nietzsche has such energy in his thought and language that one of his favorite devices for making his point is over-stress. Much like the priestly caste and Schopenhauer, I think it's reasonable to assume Nietzsche at least had a begrudging respect for Plato and Socrates but made his arguments very strident and violent in his consternation at being ignored as an eccentric.
I absolutely love that quote at the end (11:19)amidst the crowd . Also I haven’t been too fond of your channel, but this video was very well put together , and I may have to give your other stuff more of a chance , thank you for your contribution !
It's funny that Nietzsche hated Carlyle and loved Emerson when you learn that the two writers used to be long-distance besties. Carlyle and his wife thought they were visited by an angel when Emerson came to visit them for the first time, and in the month that he died Emerson pointed at a picture of Carlyle in his room and said, "that's my man!"
Thank you. Very interested in this and how you could take it further. Particularly I'm keen to learn more about how Nietzsche bridged the metaphysics of Romanticism and Science ... I know he was influenced by Darwin but equally (interestingly) by R J Boscovich. The latter developed a dynamic theory of matter - building on Leibniz's ideas I think - a natural philosophy that was very influential in later scientific developments (Faraday-Maxwell-Einstein).
What an excellent topic selection in Philosophy. This is way over due on the subject of N. I really disliked Emerson, first time around. I thought I must have missed something, so I took him up again, and went, "Wow: Wait a minute here, buddy." Thanks so much for this vid.
So I do find myself as an angry Thoreauvian. I live here in the USA and I hate what my government does. I do ask myself why am I not in jail? Continuously
The fact that people can feel this kind of kinship for those they will never meet is very interesting. One of the things Peterson likes to discuss is what attracts women to men. When he discusses this he points out that fiction seems in many ways to be the female equivalent of pornography, and the reason for this is supposedly that there is something about the written word that stimulates them, and so therefore an attractive man ought to be some kind of poet or orator. There may be something to this, but I beileve there's another side as well because of my own experiences in reading. When I'm properly engrossed in a book, the last thing I am paying attention to is the contents of the book as a stream of words. My involvement with the book is not this dispassionate cerebral download of information but something that is phenomenologically far more like _telepathy._ John Vervaeke describes how when he is reading a profound figure like Plato or Hegel or Aristotle he goes into a state where he begins to think _in_ Aristotle or _in_ Hegel, as though these were distinct psychological modes for perceiving the world. I beileve this is the same feeling. There is this sense that words convey far more than though out rationally to be able to. Small talk doesn't really mean anything taken on it's own but it's highly important because of the nonverbal exchange of information that accompanies it. As you start a conversation, you begin to mimic the other person and this flow beings to be established. And the less you actually think about what you're saying and are self conscious, the smoother the exchange gets. (Or rather the smoothness of the exchange is a symptom of how unselfconscious you are in that moment; the opposite implies that you could contrive to be unselfconscious.) I think something similar is happening here by means of archetypal patterns: it is as though the brain's implicit observation and imitation systems are able to reconstruct the brain state of the author by means of the same collective patterns that have existed for all of time, only this sounds like voodoo to us because we aren't aware of these systems any more than any other involuntary biological process. So there is a very human connection happening. And the better a written work is the more it is _felt_ rather than explained. The great appeal of books that supersedes other mediums is the opportunity to see the interior monologues of the characters and slip into their skin. This seems to me an at least equally plausible reason for why women typically enjoy fiction more than men; it is the sense of connectedness that can be emotionally intimate and dis-inhibited to an extent that we typically can't be with each other. The book has the added advantage of not actually being a living person who can pass judgement and answer back. This is why people were comfortable talking to the computer program ELIZA and even attributed human emotions to the computer despite all it did being to reframe the user's speech as a question in the style of Rogerian psychotherapy. The machine is on the comfortably inhuman side of the uncanny valley such that people could therefore disclose their secrets and inner feelings to it.
Why does the narration speed increased?Early videos were slow and steady.This slow and steady narration is what made an impact to me and differed you from other philosophy youtuber videos.I am a non native English speaker.
The most I know is Nietzsche didn't speak of him directly much, but did reference his works like The Idiot. They do share similar view points like God being (or at least used to be) the highest form of meaning in western society before new avenues of logic and reasoning occured, which has sent civilization down a hole of obsession with the lack of meaning or truth in the world, but they take radically different approaches to that issue.
So Weltgeist, what are your views on human nature? Do you think of it as being one of corruption or has it been twisted as a result of a corrupt society?
Nature is made to conspire with spirit to emancipate us. Ralph Waldo Emerson A leading edge and discerning presentation of Emerson's profound influence on Nietzsche. Did Emerson perhaps come from another dimension/planet as his writings are infused with such divinity and the deepest of otherworldy insights? Ty for showcasing this natural tie between Nietzsche and the Concord savant. For Nietzsche to have admired Emerson is a testament by itself to Emerson's genius. Emerson and Nietzsche are intellectual forces of nature. In military terms imo, Nietzsche represents the Navy Seals in his relentless, disciplined pursuit of exposing the Eliotian "wasteland culture" and the pervasive "hollow men." Emerson then might represent a Top Gun air fighter with a precision fighter focus on the vast endless spiritual horizons and his full spectrum awareness presented in his sublime writings so uplifting to the human spirit. No man is truly educated until he has read Emerson and made progress in understanding the intellectual force and "satori" he illuminated. Please continue expanding the links of these intellectual brothers in arms with your philosophical expertise. More Emerson and more Nietzsche in future videos, please. New US subscriber.
In truth, he never matured fully. He had the knowledge of the wise old man without the temperament of an old experienced mam. He was broken and started off from that stance, and followed it through.
Curious about how a Nietzschean would respond to the way in which lifestyle capitalism has commodified the pursuit of self-reliance, self-growth, authenticty, etc.
Although I am strongly in favor of individualism, I believe it is lacking something profoundly important, which makes me lose faith in this philosophy. In my opinion, individualism makes people unable to love; it deprives people of it. As love is synonymous with surrender, it is impossible to truly love someone without opening up and sharing your vulnerability. Love is co-dependence and individualism is all about being independent. Therefore, being too independent will inevitably lead to the inability to create deep relationships with people as the individualist hates relying on others for creating their own happiness. But there is simply no other way as we are social creatures and connection is how we survive.
Trying to remove romanticisms, superstitions and untruths from life in an effort to see things as they truly are most likely will cause people to see things in a bleak light and move towards nihilism. That's when people _have to_ create their own values and manufacture meaning for themselves individually. Thanks WG.👍
Classification begins. To the young mind every thing is individual, stands by itself. By and by, it finds how to join two things and see in them one nature; then three, then three thousand; and so, tyrannized over by its own unifying instinct, it goes on tying things together, diminishing anomalies, discovering roots running under ground whereby contrary and remote things cohere and flower out from one stem. -Ralph Waldo Emerson (from The American Scholar) We have no right to isolated acts of any kind: we may not make isolated errors or hit upon isolated truths. Rather do our ideas, our values, our yeas and nays, our ifs and buts, grow out of us with the necessity with which a tree bears fruit-related and each with an affinity to each, and evidence of one will, one health, one soil, one sun.-Whether you like them, these fruits of ours?-But what is that to the trees! What is that to us, to us philosophers! -Friedrich Nietzsche (from On the Genealogy of Morals preface aphorism 2)
The Bible is truth (John 17:17). The heart of man is deceitful (Jeremiah 17:9). Those who rely on their own intuition and “good sense” to lead them to spiritual truth will find themselves being led astray (Isaiah 53:6).
People are selective when it comes to nature and only see the good parts. What if on one of his walks he was pulled down by a pack of wolves and eaten? I love nature myself but am not naive.
Not sure why we are still enthralled with a so -called 'philosopher' whom Sterns ,Strauss,and many others, rightly called the 'prototypical Nazi'. Even Kaufman, promoter of the 'nice Nietzsche school ' ,interrupts his translation of Gay Science to footnote( I paraphrase) 'from here on the writings of Nietzsche's are indistinguishable from the incoherence of insanity. (P.S. his and Emerson's poetry are considered 3rd rate ( see H.Bloom) One thing the two did have in common was their myopic and lopsided view that 'History/Man is power'
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Please increase the audio level of this video. 👂
emmerson was the reason I started to write philosophical poetry. emmerson encourages one to write your own instead of reading others.
Didn't know about Nietzche's admiration of Emerson. I find Emerson easier to read (it's my own defect). Please, go deeper into this sympathy. Thank you for your videos.
I wouldn't be too hard on yourself.
Nietzsche's language can sometimes be a bit clunky in translation, since he plays with German words and etymologies in a way that only a poet-philologist could.
Anyone who's ever compared a translated poem to it's original language knows this problem of the rhythm being lost.
Even when Nietzsche wasn't writing poetry, this problem still remains in much of his prose, since much of it is still borderline poetic, or as he himself states:
"Strategy on the part of the good writer of prose consists of choosing his means for stepping close to poetry but never stepping into it."
You know the author of this channel doesn’t write fanfiction, right?
Nietzsche and Emerson: An elective Affinity, & Spirit of Individualism are the 2 “main” books about their connection, great stuff
Just read Emerson's aphorisms, or Oversoul. Nietzsche ripped off quite a bit from Emerson.
@@jamesbarlow6423 Ah yes, the good old "Nietzsche plagiarised this writer, Nietzsche plagiarised that writer" argument.
"Shakespeare will never be made by the study of Shakespeare," as Nietzsche. This piece is so tallied with my thoughts, and these creators are the real treasure of human beings.
Please make more about these two.
I recommend anyone who hasn't to listen to Emerson to do so! I found listening to him to be similar to finding out one of your old relatives is actually a bad ass.
I'd appreciate more Nietzsche-Emerson or Emerson related videos; I receieved his Essays recently as a gift but haven't really read it yet. Been reading Whitehead and Bradley lately. But with accompanying videos, there'd be less of a will to procrastinate finally reading the Essays.
I've read some of the essay The Over-soul once before bed.
Thank you for brining this connection to my attention, would very much be interested in future videos on this.
Love your work, always a great pleasure to see notifications from you. This channel is the reason I got really into Nietzche. Thank you for everything!
It's great to learn about the relations between important philosophers. Maybe in the future you could do a video about Schopenhauer and Leopardi, or maybe Nietzsche and Stirner.
So great, I love all of your Nietzsche content
Good Video, definitely watched it to the end
Good and bad are RELATIVE. 😉
Thanks for watching ;)
@@WeltgeistYT I should thank you for making this great stuff!
Bravo! Another great insight! I know much of your content focuses on Nietzsche and philosophers who are now referred to as "Existentialists" and it is a natural step to extend that to the great US American movement of the "Transcendentalists" - not only Emerson's work but also Henry David Thoreau's writings. I find it so fascinating that these ideas were floating around in the collective-minds of great thinkers around the same few decades in Western thought, despite having no direct contact with one another: it is as if these select few saw what was "really going on" in their time(s). And much like the work of Nietzsche, the Transcendentalists represented a *blip* in philosophical thought that seemed ahead of its time, and therefore ran the risk of being lost altogether.
Your work here keeps these ideas alive, and I hope you know how valuable that is for this modern age. If you were to expand on the works of the Transcendentalists specifically, I think it would fit quite well into the rest of your repertoire and continue to benefit the many. Stay well!
Great video man! Love the channel, it has brought me so much joy and helped me through hard times. I find topics comparing Nietzsche’s ideas with his contemporaries very interesting:) keep up the great work
I saw the Brilliant pitch dozens of times in so many different channels and didn't break...
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I never made the connection myself but it is interesting how I have always naturally enjoyed both of them. I am more inclined towards Emerson's thought overall, but have always had a major appreciation of both. Interesting how that works. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the video. I knew this about Nietzsche and Emerson. What's not to like about him and his writing? He is my favourite American philosophers.
Well explained... Greetings from Indonesia🇮🇩
Yes! I'd definitely watch more Emerson!
you have lit a candle illuminating a perspective of neitzsche that speaks to me personally and through himself i feel. Maybe it was your words connecting the threading of understanding but your video was great, thankyou
Weltgeist, thank you again for a lovely video! I would like to add that some scholars have suggested that it was Emerson, as well as Le Rochefoucauld, who inspired Nietzsche’s aphoristic style.
Very possible
Thank you for the video.
Great work on Nietzsche as usual!
Yes, more comparisons and contrasts between these two thinkers please!
Brilliant discussion of Emerson and Nietzsche. I am grateful Carlyle was mentioned, as well. Carlyle and Emerson could be called "philosophical kinsmen," and the voluminous correspondence between the two is proof of this. Nietzsche certainly had more in common with Carlyle than he was willing to admit--especially the way he and Carlyle exalted Heroic men.
These are truly fantastic. Thank you 🤚🏻
Every few months I dig out Emerson essays and reread. "Self reliance" to me is the height of genius.
Brilliant essay - not "the height of genius"
Emerson more or less established the modern English prose style in the essays around that time. The height of genius is apropos.
Just read "Over-Soul" by Emerson. And wow... He certainly speaks the Truth.
I've recently discovered your channel. Great content. Well done.
Im glad peoples opinions of Nietzsche are evolving, i read An Elective Affinity & Spirit of Individualism years ago and loved it
Yes, and one on B. Spinozas' influence on Nietzsches' philosophical work.
I like how the channel targets many topics that are not talked about much in RUclips, even though philosophers like Nietzsche and Schopenhauer are famous.
This is a great video. Similar themes of adoration toward the divine nature of poetry can be found in other American Philosophers, like John Dewey. Dewey had a passion for poetry, believing it would one day take the place of philosophy and science. After this video, it seems like those ideas may have been derived from Emerson or Nietzsche. Either way, this is a great perspective!
Great video! I didn’t know how Nietzsche was in simpatico with Emerson. I haven’t read self-reliance but after this video I have high interest in it. Thank you.
Hope you enjoy it!
Emerson was nice. He's like that friend who, upon receiving an invitation to talk about any subject whatsoever, chooses to audit the Law.
Intresting things happens with poetry they have all the crux of theoretical knowledge of massé into an individualized form of supra emotional sense felt in heart without even following the all the logics of thousands of years of debates into a snippet a stanza to take it or take it afterwards even its rhythmic tones will make individual Empower, i mean that what a laymen remember last words of any poem or quote for personal growth, a portrayal of pragmatism bridging personal to political i haven't explored that part of Emerson and Nietzsche Yet But Yes With Ambedkar & Dewey it resonates. ❤
Interested in more of these two. Thank you.
I would love a similar video with the simmilarities between Nietzsche and Guyau. Thank you! Great channel!
Praising him is like praising my self because we are so similar
All the Boston Brahmins had a similar outlook. T.S. Eliot and even Henry David Thoreau. Yes, I would love some videos of Nietzche on these philosophers.
More on these two!
Both are brilliant and great Philosophers and Poets.
Thank you very much for this wonderful Video 🌹🌹🌹
While watching your previous videos I wished you would make a video about the tension between western's "Decadents" (the term that I learned from you that Nietzsche coined), and thinkers who detached from Western decadents, such as Emerson and American Transcendentalism, and emphasized that the distinction between man and nature, form and formless, is really artificial. I am really glad to see this video! Thank you
Yes, I would be interested to see more about the influence of Emerson on Nietzsche. However, I am interested in hearing more about all of Nietzsche's influence, it would make understanding him easier. Also, it would be great to do a series on how Nietzsche himself was an influence, not just on other philosophers, intellectuals, writers, but society at large, especially how he has been negatively exploited like the Nazis or how his sister exploited him after his breakdown.
I know this is convoluted, but I find Nietzsche fascinating because he is thrown around and used, yet very few know anything about him or his philosophy. Clarification is need to have the correct public image. Nietzsche deserves that.
Thank you for your work
wonderful video
Good trouble. Poetic justice. Peaceful demonstration of superiority. Better in the bedroom than battlefield. Violence is to abrupt and obvious. Go in sideways.
Thank for this video about the love of Nietzsche for Emerson. Yes, they have many things in common. First they both exalt the individual qualities and therefore the man standing on his own feet, the self-sufficient, the self-sustained. Second, their styles of writing are very resemblant, we feel the same dynamic, the same rythme, almost the same music even if the words are different. Now, to me the great difference between these "brother souls" is their respective view about Plato and therefore Socrate. Emerson clearly holds Plato and Socrate in reverence. As for Nietzsche, it doesn't seem to me that he ranks these two Greek philosophers as representatives of great men.
Dont take Nietzsche literally. He atleast knows, that if its not for NIHILISM of Platonism, Socrates or Schopenhauer, he wouldnt have had a need to explain his style of explaining EXISTENTIALISM as being atleast against the terms of those Philosophers view point. (in contrast to Existentialism theories from Kiekergard, Dostoevsky). So dont take Nietzsche literally
@@drrameshshrink This does hold much of the time. Nietzsche has such energy in his thought and language that one of his favorite devices for making his point is over-stress.
Much like the priestly caste and Schopenhauer, I think it's reasonable to assume Nietzsche at least had a begrudging respect for Plato and Socrates but made his arguments very strident and violent in his consternation at being ignored as an eccentric.
It'd be great if you could increase the frequency of video uploading, keep up the good work!
Please let us know more about similarities and differences
I absolutely love that quote at the end (11:19)amidst the crowd . Also I haven’t been too fond of your channel, but this video was very well put together , and I may have to give your other stuff more of a chance , thank you for your contribution !
It's funny that Nietzsche hated Carlyle and loved Emerson when you learn that the two writers used to be long-distance besties. Carlyle and his wife thought they were visited by an angel when Emerson came to visit them for the first time, and in the month that he died Emerson pointed at a picture of Carlyle in his room and said, "that's my man!"
Thank you. Very interested in this and how you could take it further. Particularly I'm keen to learn more about how Nietzsche bridged the metaphysics of Romanticism and Science ... I know he was influenced by Darwin but equally (interestingly) by R J Boscovich. The latter developed a dynamic theory of matter - building on Leibniz's ideas I think - a natural philosophy that was very influential in later scientific developments (Faraday-Maxwell-Einstein).
Could you do a video on Nietzsche take on the Old Testament?! 😮
What an excellent topic selection in Philosophy. This is way over due on the subject of N. I really disliked Emerson, first time around. I thought I must have missed something, so I took him up again, and went, "Wow: Wait a minute here, buddy." Thanks so much for this vid.
Nice!
So I do find myself as an angry Thoreauvian. I live here in the USA and I hate what my government does. I do ask myself why am I not in jail? Continuously
The fact that people can feel this kind of kinship for those they will never meet is very interesting.
One of the things Peterson likes to discuss is what attracts women to men. When he discusses this he points out that fiction seems in many ways to be the female equivalent of pornography, and the reason for this is supposedly that there is something about the written word that stimulates them, and so therefore an attractive man ought to be some kind of poet or orator.
There may be something to this, but I beileve there's another side as well because of my own experiences in reading.
When I'm properly engrossed in a book, the last thing I am paying attention to is the contents of the book as a stream of words. My involvement with the book is not this dispassionate cerebral download of information but something that is phenomenologically far more like _telepathy._
John Vervaeke describes how when he is reading a profound figure like Plato or Hegel or Aristotle he goes into a state where he begins to think _in_ Aristotle or _in_ Hegel, as though these were distinct psychological modes for perceiving the world.
I beileve this is the same feeling. There is this sense that words convey far more than though out rationally to be able to. Small talk doesn't really mean anything taken on it's own but it's highly important because of the nonverbal exchange of information that accompanies it. As you start a conversation, you begin to mimic the other person and this flow beings to be established. And the less you actually think about what you're saying and are self conscious, the smoother the exchange gets. (Or rather the smoothness of the exchange is a symptom of how unselfconscious you are in that moment; the opposite implies that you could contrive to be unselfconscious.) I think something similar is happening here by means of archetypal patterns: it is as though the brain's implicit observation and imitation systems are able to reconstruct the brain state of the author by means of the same collective patterns that have existed for all of time, only this sounds like voodoo to us because we aren't aware of these systems any more than any other involuntary biological process.
So there is a very human connection happening. And the better a written work is the more it is _felt_ rather than explained. The great appeal of books that supersedes other mediums is the opportunity to see the interior monologues of the characters and slip into their skin. This seems to me an at least equally plausible reason for why women typically enjoy fiction more than men; it is the sense of connectedness that can be emotionally intimate and dis-inhibited to an extent that we typically can't be with each other. The book has the added advantage of not actually being a living person who can pass judgement and answer back. This is why people were comfortable talking to the computer program ELIZA and even attributed human emotions to the computer despite all it did being to reframe the user's speech as a question in the style of Rogerian psychotherapy. The machine is on the comfortably inhuman side of the uncanny valley such that people could therefore disclose their secrets and inner feelings to it.
Could you - please - make videos explaining Kant's work?
I love this ☺️
Have you ever thought about starting a Discord or some other forum for discussion? I think it would make for a good addition to your content.
I’ve considered it, maybe in the future. I’m toying with the idea of a book club of sorts
@@WeltgeistYT a book club would be great! If you need any help setting it up, I’ll gladly help.
Why does the narration speed increased?Early videos were slow and steady.This slow and steady narration is what made an impact to me and differed you from other philosophy youtuber videos.I am a non native English speaker.
Please do a video on Nietzsche on Dostoevsky
The most I know is Nietzsche didn't speak of him directly much, but did reference his works like The Idiot. They do share similar view points like God being (or at least used to be) the highest form of meaning in western society before new avenues of logic and reasoning occured, which has sent civilization down a hole of obsession with the lack of meaning or truth in the world, but they take radically different approaches to that issue.
Wonder if Nietzsche knew that Transcendentalism was one of the casualties of the Civil War. Died there.
So Weltgeist, what are your views on human nature? Do you think of it as being one of corruption or has it been twisted as a result of a corrupt society?
What did he think about lake and palmer.
My two cents, one of the most influential American Islamic scholar, Hamza Yousef, praised Emerson as one of the greatest American philosopher.
Why do you make this great high quality content?
What was Nietzsche's opinion of Macchiavelli? They both seem to have very similar viewpoints
He loved Macchiavelli.
He admired Machiavelli's realism, as well as some other thinkers from the Renaissance, which is a period that he greatly enjoyed to read about.
We tackled this (a bit) in our videos on Thucydides and the Renaissance. He admired Machiavelli for his realism, as other commentators have said
Many supposedly Nietzschean ideas are a combination of Emerson, Stirner, and the French realists like De Rochefoucauld and Chamfort.
Good video - I would be interested in a second, more more in-depth video.
If that's so, Nietzsche would have love Lao Tzu
Nature is made to conspire with spirit to emancipate us.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
A leading edge and discerning presentation of Emerson's profound influence on Nietzsche. Did Emerson perhaps come from another dimension/planet as his writings are infused with such divinity and the deepest of otherworldy insights? Ty for showcasing this natural tie between Nietzsche and the Concord savant.
For Nietzsche to have admired Emerson is a testament by itself to Emerson's genius. Emerson and Nietzsche are intellectual forces of nature. In military terms imo, Nietzsche represents the Navy Seals in his relentless, disciplined pursuit of exposing the Eliotian "wasteland culture" and the pervasive "hollow men." Emerson then might represent a Top Gun air fighter with a precision fighter focus on the vast endless spiritual horizons and his full spectrum awareness presented in his sublime writings so uplifting to the human spirit. No man is truly educated until he has read Emerson and made progress in understanding the intellectual force and "satori" he illuminated. Please continue expanding the links of these intellectual brothers in arms with your philosophical expertise. More Emerson and more Nietzsche in future videos, please. New US subscriber.
Right about now the funk soul brother
Is this a reboot of The living philosophy's video?
I wonder what Nietzsche would have thought about Whitman.
He wouldn't like a gay man.
In truth, he never matured fully.
He had the knowledge of the wise old man without the temperament of an old experienced mam. He was broken and started off from that stance, and followed it through.
Curious about how a Nietzschean would respond to the way in which lifestyle capitalism has commodified the pursuit of self-reliance, self-growth, authenticty, etc.
I think emerson's line " governments that govern least govern best" was held close by people like Dr King and with right " extremist"
Did Nietzsche read Emerson in English original?
No, German translation
Funny if Brilliant is some kinda, The Parallax View, with Richard Gere.
Although I am strongly in favor of individualism, I believe it is lacking something profoundly important, which makes me lose faith in this philosophy. In my opinion, individualism makes people unable to love; it deprives people of it. As love is synonymous with surrender, it is impossible to truly love someone without opening up and sharing your vulnerability. Love is co-dependence and individualism is all about being independent. Therefore, being too independent will inevitably lead to the inability to create deep relationships with people as the individualist hates relying on others for creating their own happiness. But there is simply no other way as we are social creatures and connection is how we survive.
the narrator sounds like the Golden one
Trying to remove romanticisms, superstitions and untruths from life in an effort to see things as they truly are most likely will cause people to see things in a bleak light and move towards nihilism. That's when people _have to_ create their own values and manufacture meaning for themselves individually.
Thanks WG.👍
Classification begins. To the young mind every thing is individual, stands by itself. By and by, it finds how to join two things and see in them one nature; then three, then three thousand; and so, tyrannized over by its own unifying instinct, it goes on tying things together, diminishing anomalies, discovering roots running under ground whereby contrary and remote things cohere and flower out from one stem.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson (from The American Scholar)
We have no right to isolated acts of any kind: we may not make isolated errors or hit upon isolated truths. Rather do our ideas, our values, our yeas and nays, our ifs and buts, grow out of us with the necessity with which a tree bears fruit-related and each with an affinity to each, and evidence of one will, one health, one soil, one sun.-Whether you like them, these fruits of ours?-But what is that to the trees! What is that to us, to us philosophers!
-Friedrich Nietzsche (from On the Genealogy of Morals preface aphorism 2)
Love both of these guys! Emerson’s self reliance essay in audiobook form here: ruclips.net/video/2ZtaqJImHKg/видео.html
The Bible is truth (John 17:17). The heart of man is deceitful (Jeremiah 17:9). Those who rely on their own intuition and “good sense” to lead them to spiritual truth will find themselves being led astray (Isaiah 53:6).
People are selective when it comes to nature and only see the good parts. What if on one of his walks he was pulled down by a pack of wolves and eaten? I love nature myself but am not naive.
I recommend Emerson's essays, "Power," and "Fate," that specifically highlight the brutality and the indiscriminate character of nature.
hah, how fitting
in a disapproving way of course
Wrong! You missed his entry in Gay Science.
I thought Nietzsche couldn't read English.
He probably read a german translation of Emerson's works
Not sure why we are still enthralled with a so -called 'philosopher' whom Sterns ,Strauss,and many others, rightly called the 'prototypical Nazi'. Even Kaufman, promoter of the 'nice Nietzsche school ' ,interrupts his translation of Gay Science to footnote( I paraphrase) 'from here on the writings of Nietzsche's are indistinguishable from the incoherence of insanity. (P.S. his and Emerson's poetry are considered 3rd rate ( see H.Bloom) One thing the two did have in common was their myopic and lopsided view that 'History/Man is power'