Opie & Anthony: Vs Former PD John Mainelli (06/21/07)
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- Former Program Director John Mainelli sents sarcastic evaluation e-mails to the show. After some discussion, they get him on the phone to debate his points.
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John Mainelli was just ahead of the curve
John Mainelli is a saint and a prophet. God bless that man.
"Listen...GREG" John is a fuckin savage. LOL
The thing that makes this interesting in retrospect is that the Boys layet admitted they got lazy and started phoning it in.
You are SO right, and I thought the same thing. Anthony admitted it in the "Greggshells" podcast.
Think about that, and how well they were still being paid for such little effort. Yeah, I guess Anthony and Jimmy could pull shit out of their ass and be funny, but basically these guys were being paid millions to just show up at 6 a.m. and bs for a few hours.
What a life....
@@chocolatetownforever7537 Millions..
@@chocolatetownforever7537 well duhh they're RADIO hosts, not professional athletes.
Did you expect them to hike the mic and run with it to the end zone?
I can't even imagine trying to have a serious professional relationship with Opie. He's annoying enough to listen to on the radio, working with him would be a fucking pain in the ass
@Josh Swann lol John Swan?
You'd have to be over top aggressive with him
Not just working with him but reliant on his approval and having to shield his fragile ego to continue resigning million dollar contracts.
Looking back at this, the PD seems to be speakin for all o and a fans.
So true
Opie said he never critiqued the show when it was his job......gee I wonder why?? He probably gave Gregshells a couple notes when he started and he realized he can’t do that and keep his job. Opie needs yes men
This really highlights how unintelligent Opie is.
Does it? 🥴
@@Bambino_60yes
@@Bambino_60Yes
Opie yells at Tom demanding to read the John email on air. Tom says no and then gets into an "F you" parlay with Opie. But, as soon as Ant takes control of & mitigates the situation, Tom immediately seeks a solution with "legal" so that the email could be read. When Opie engaged Tom, it went strait to conflict. When Ant engaged Tom, the Opie-created conflict was resolved.
It amazes me that Ant was the one to get fired with management eager to resign Opie with a bonus. After all the years Opie was obviously the difficult problem personality to deal with. How many dozens of clips are there of Opie getting into fights and screaming at management for the most ridiculous things?
I still don't believe it was really because of Twitter. Ant said a lot of worse stuff ON AIR before.
Well said Kevin. Mainelli was right when he called Opie a petulant child. Opie's conflict resolution strategy with Tom proved that to be true.
Opie did this on the air, but was a company man behind the scenes. Probably told Tom that he was just doing it for the show.
"Jim Norton was to Opie and Anthony as Danny Devito was to Always Sunny."
youre a cornball
This is the first guy they have clashed with, where I side with the party opposite to OandA. They had every right to be piss ed at the dude for being shmarmy, but the guy made some excellent points. This was 8 years ago, and Mainelli fucking called it.
They knew they were in the wrong too, the sheepish way they ended the call then the next day they come back after thinking of some comebacks and act all cocky.
"Shmarmy" bro I haven't heard that word in agessss 🤣
Edit: Although this comment is 6 years old so i guess it's on par with the time 😝
Dunmer junkie
@@RayRaeTVDude quit bein so shmaaaarmy
the Greggshells when Tom came in
Everything Mainelli said turned out to be right. The show has been in decline for years.
Literally spit out my Coke when Tom said that reading an email would violate a non-disparagement clause
DID YA
@@bstewnyc I don't usually say literally when I don't mean it, that is a pet peeve of mine, so I must have.
Hopefully I was listening in the kitchen or something
This whole OandA show got by on Anthony and Jimmy. Opie was their "hole".
Scott Shields agreed Opie stinks, but look at TACS and Jim and Sam. They needed Opie to stay relevant.
@@NJ-os3rn at least someone gets it. You needed opie to be the straight guy (even if he was trying to be funny) it helped everyone else flourish
My husband and I have thought that too since I got him into the show! Opie was the "Hole"!
"Jim Norton was to Opie and Anthony as Danny Devito was to Always Sunny."
@@LilRocker2005 watz tat a children's book or sumtin...
John was right, though...I hate to be that guy but come on, he was spot on with his criticism.
AppealPlay since you are that guy... lol
DIMEBAGONICS I mean, the show was not good and their rating reflected that so....
Opie: I won't return his calls
Also Opie: He should've called me like a man
You: I hate Opie
Also You: Listens to Opie & Anthony for hours
@@kennedywilliams2280 actually I prefer the nopie versions. Nice bait.
@@kennedywilliams2280 lol I just saw you are a verified Anthony troll. Have fun.
@@majestic_irrelevance "verified Anthony troll?" You mean someone who identifies his dorky White fans online and tells them their hero is a pedo? Yeah, it is pretty fun to watch you dwopes scramble for a reply.
@@kennedywilliams2280
You: I hate anthony
Also you: listens to opie & anthony for hours
I wondered why baby Opie stopped talking for a few minutes. It turns out he was pouting. Pathetic.
John you're a hack for hiding behind a keyboard and your not aggressive for hiding behind a keyboard. An aggressive person would have called us on the phone...all said to the guy as he is on the phone. Opie is a dunce with no argument.
Oh cool, you were there and saw him pout??
@@jennpenn5 you're an idiot
@@matthewzablocki5310 instead of insulting, try and be objective. After listening it sounds as though he was silent before John’s call likely bc he was working on making it happen on air. However you’ll never win a “Opie doesn’t pout” argument bc that evidence is everywhere
@@nimo517 you’re speaking to someone who is actually defending opie. It’s clearly either an Opie alt account or a family member. No objectivity will be round
I think Anthony partially agreed with John. Opie was so personally hurt by this.
This (2007, 2008, F.H. Reilly's seating, Grape Fight) was the era where Opie would storm off, and throw his headphones, and walk out of the studio. You can hear it here. Supposedly his wife + in-laws played a part, like "My new family doesn't want me to work on a show like this anymore." Just an all-around bad scene.
@@sskoog do you remember when anthony talked about FH reillys seating?
Yeah. This was easier to find in the old days, but the text-message and F.H. Riley's tweet and Danny Ross' firing all happened in a row right around Dec 2012. None of it existed on-air, but Opie walks out of the studio on Dec 10th 2012, leaving Ant + Jim to start the broadcast by themselves.
Link is ruclips.net/video/dtjLCbPJAIk/видео.html -- first 35 minutes are old-replay and best-of-Louis-CK air filler, then at 36:00 they start the live show, saying "Hey, everybody, sorry for the delay," and Ant's voice is clearly rattled. Opie stayed out for Dec 11th + Dec 12th before returning. So the weekend immediately before 10-12 Dec was the F.H. Riley tweet firestorm.
@@sskoog holy crap you're awesome. Thank you
Yes Anthony mentioned again recently that Opies in-laws didn't like the pedophile/Uncle Paul stuff (which Jim did more and more) and didn't like some of the other really hardcore sexual type stuff. Really ironic considering he's given their daughter and grandkids a damn good life on bits like that. I'm just surprised he didn't stand up to them and explain how radio works. Y'know since he's been doing it since he's 18.
Lol why are Ants hats always saggy and gross....like on the way into work he grabbed it off a homeless guys head?
Do you want him to wear it with a straight brim like a n?
Opie being told "F-U!" Send him off to pout lmao
*bout
@@crispusattucks4007 hahahaha. Yeah I meant send him off to “bout”……
Opie cannot take criticism in any form. Opie vs Ant started over A saying how O used to rattle spoon. Opie vs Jimmy: O flipped out because J said that O keeps guests waiting. Opie vs other jocks calling him a board op ALWAYS degenerated into O screaming childish insults at them without ever getting specific. It got way worse on KROCK because O felt pressure to prove his contribution to the show as ratings fell. Then O had kids & that's when the show lost its greatness (around 2010). Nobody wanted to be there. Executive producer Sam made it worse. It was very obvious and maybe even inevitable.
^^ Yeah, this is the core of it. Opie was pretty clearly aware of the show's decline (or, at least, the executive relationship decline), right around the SXM merger and Erik Logan departure, and started going through strenuous hijinks to "befriend" management, or to throw pre-emptive tantrums, or, later, to side with management, framing himself as "their guy on the inside" who would tattle or backstab whenever necessary. I can imagine his spiral into embarrassment + self-loathing, but this was the worst possibly way to handle it.
I love every era of the show.
Without a doubt Mr Brenman, the worst of this show is better than anything else that's been on radio since. But as a hardcore listener it's impossible not to notice personality quirks.
@@sskoogTrue enough but obviously his relationship with management wasn't strong enough to save his job.
It's just proof of his insecurity. When Ant got fired, Opie was relieved that the show wasn't given to Ant to carry because it meant he didn't have to do any work to continue, meanwhile Ant built his own network. Then, when Opie and Jim split, Opie was livid that Jim got the remnants of their show because it meant he had to build something new and he didn't have the motivation or drive to do so.
Christ Opie, "Eff you!!" never sounds cool or threatening. It's like whipping someone with a pool noodle instead of like... a whip.
He's complete S. Period.
Mainelli modeled the advantage of being upfront and honest, rather than trying to micro-manage one's image as many large corporations attempt to do. Although I don't agree with Mainelli, I respect his courage in discussing things openly. Also, I now have an idea of where he's coming from.
There was always some type of drama going on with Opie. It's so embarrassing, it just reminds you of a teenage girl
he has no other way to get attention. if he were able to do other things, he'd be doing them.
Poor Opie Hughes
It's for da show
You mean like getting tossed out of The Comedy Cellar? Exiled by all your ex coworkers and friends? Abandoned by your literal best friends?
It’s the same way he is now. He will title a video “WHY RACIST ANTHONY LIED AND THE FANS NOW HATE ME” and then in the video say “Why do people keep bringing O&A up. They’re OBSESSED with me”
Lets me honest. John was right. Opie and Ant at this point didn't care and was phoning it in. They have even stated NUMEROUS times in fights and on their own shows now that after "XM thing" they where pretty much done. Then losing Philly was it.
Opie mad cuz they took his show off the air in his in-laws hometown.
Gregg “me me me me me me” Hughes
Every time I see that picture of John Mainelli... I wonder if he's writing a horribly scathing criticism of the deli platter on the table behind him. "The mound of cheese has been sitting out for hours, now it is warm and sweaty."
Lol that's a good one. "Jim Norton is to Opie and Anthony as Danny Devito was to Always Sunny.
He doesn't look happy like does he ? 😂
"If you both died today id wear the same suit" hahaha oh goddamn jimmy
Jimmy's face makes it look like uncle Paul's hand is on his shoulder
i fucking knew when i saw the title of this video, "this seems like something cool but opie will ruin it with his insecurity"
"I hope the pendulum swings the other way"
"best get outta my way" RIP Steve C
Steve still swinging, RIP
Wow. As much as I want to hate John Mainelli I keep agreeing with him. Part of me wonders if every time Opie used to have temper tantrums over "management" it was because guys like this were just legitimately trying to make the show more entertaining.
it's clear that opie can't handle criticism, even if it's light-hearted, case in point a few of the opie/anthony fights started as opie being goofed on/criticized
keep talking over the guy opie. that's great
that don't say anything move and hide from someone sounds very eerily similar to the anthony situation. opie the destroyer
Matt M Norton does the same shit in every argument. But stay the course.
When John was saying Opie knew ahead of time and Opie was trying to deny it, his tone suddenly changed dramatically and Opie started using his unmistakable "lying voice".
I don't have the timestamp, but he has a very obvious tone and rhythm when he thinks he's being duplicitous. It sounds like a child hiding in the curtains.
Someone please make a timestamp list of all the times Opie stops speaking...
You should do it, you have all the time in the world loser.
Opie won't even let this guy talk...
*YOU'RE UH HAAAAACK !*
Ugh, listening to Opie here makes me relish his future downfall. He barely allowed John to speak.
Sure would be nice, if Mr. Perfect could keep his mouth such long enough to hear the other side of the argument.
Two grown men having an "eff you" argument is pretty sad.
37:29
“Listen GREGG”
😂
I'd like to be invited to a black-Thai event.
BOOOOO
@36:46 "It's passive-aggressive, something Jimmy completely hates." --Gregg Hughes
Isn't that a textbook definition of being indirectly hostile? Attributing your own true feelings to someone else.
Jocko Adams duuuude, opie is one of the least self aware people in a position of success I’ve ever seen. He has the most obvious verbal tells; constantly projecting his own bullshit and when he gets called on it he usually goes into a defensive shell of mocking or name calling. It’s especially apparent with the benefit of hindsight.
Jocko Adams Opie is more lacking in self awareness of his hypocrisy than Hillsry Clinton.
Jesus Christ. Opie sounds like a deaf kid trying to sound out words.
That's why he gets to be the article reader!
Marge the animal shelter lady bit stinks.
"people are gonna get sick of that PC crap, we'll be able to make racial stereotype based humor again"
-2007
Opie looks like he's holding Ant & Jim hostage in that photo...
I never heard of anyone drinking a Mountain Dew on the rocks before. Usually it's out of the bottle or can, that sounded more like Scotch on the rocks to me.
Yeah, because you can tell, just by sound, the difference between scotch and soda when it's in a glass with ice, over the phone, then over the radio, then in a RUclips video. Either that, or maybe sometimes people pour soda into a glass. Jesus Christ.
Forget the ice, Mountain Dew should not even be consumed by human beings.
@@ricardocantoral7672ok thanks missed the point
Thanks again Jason!
I love how he's just saying sorry guys ur just not that good! Lol
Those two images together work perfectly 😅
as soon as o and a got paid they became lazy, jocktober being the laziest
john was right
King of all media?? Wow you are delusional. He does a MAXIMUM of 12 radio shows a month. AGT ratings plummeted last season. He was in 1 movie that made a whopping 40 million bucks and hasn't been in a movie since. Oh and he barely knows how to use the Internet. Face it your hero is irrevelent.
Tom sounds like a Rich Vos with a college education.
Wild hearing someone suggest Anthony should talk about race more.
“F YOU! F YOU! F YOU! - greggshells
This was interesting to listen to.
john mainelli basically told them they were being lazy & mailing it in... well, as much as i am an OnA fan, please remember how this era ended: they were systematically removed from syndicated markets and eventually told their services were no longer needed
The radio we got in Southern California during this time was HOT GARBAGE compared to all this east coast gold I’ve discovered recently
Hahaha I feel you, the only shit I had back in the valley when I was a kid was fucking war of the roses lolol
Hoo-hoo, tell 'em Fred!
Everyone who has ever worked with opie hates him, he's the problem.
Opie is the king of cringe in this clip
*John “Grease” Minelli*
Waddledoodle
Opie would rather interrupt the person than make any argument of worth
Patrice taught him well
Patrice is funny, but this along with how he would sometimes dominate the show would get annoying
Listening to this on June 21 2024 and it’s incredible how true John was with everything. And he shut Opie up a few times better than anyone has.
This Pd had it out with Howard Stern when he worked for the New York Post when Howard first went to satellite. Howard got him fired from that job.
I want a book on Opie early years.Tons of people to interview.
Hearing grown men say F you is hilarious.
God I spend hours listening to old O&A missing the good stuff but man I didn't see Opie for the insecure angry guy he was. Jimmy and Ants humor age beautifully but Opie not as much and I'm not a hater ,I defended this guy vehemently. Not sure why anymore
Tom Cheapasano would have never stepped to Howard.
ACS Shap Tom did go head to head with Howard a few times
David Haroon Anytime Tom was on it was a bit. Tom was only fodder for the show. Look at Scott the engineer. His job was phased out long ago but Howard told Tom to keep him. It's the station mgrs. job to trim the fat and still he kept him. Either way the show sucks now. I've been binging on O&A clips.
Tom was there to negotiate with Jackie... While Howard, Don Buchwald, and Mel Karmazin decided what everyone else would make.
Awe, look how cute opie is, behind jim and anthony....I get that's why he is mad now. He is embarrassed. He thought everyone loved him....nope, everyone loved eachother, he was the dorky older brother that could get them beer.
Do you think they say "fuck you" during contract negotiations?
"There's a reason why were still here". Didn't they get fired shortly there after. I love them, but they never take responsibility for anything that happens to them ever. If they had shitty ratings, that has to be there fault somewhat.
T D they remained on satellite but were fired from all the radio gigs
Larry Cera yeah that’s what I’m talking about on Terrestrial radio. I know they were on satellite long after that.
I love O and A but I was thinking the same exact thing.. Whether John was a douche or not, apparently he wasn't too far off because they did lose all their radio stations not too too long after. It's kinda sad listening to this tbh.
Does anyone know what year this was? I’m now listening to this again here in 2021....And I’m curious when this was.....thanks gang!
This guy is spot on, I can hardly listen to anything after 2009
Perfectly backing Jim’s position he describes as staying out of it. He does get angry with XM and mgmt sometimes but picks his battles
1:17:09 Crazy john wants to do something with the internet, how could that ever work? (Multiple hundred million dollar podcast contracts later…) Sounds like Mainelli had quite the foresight back then, they could’ve beaten Rogan to the top if Op took any advice whatsoever…
Meanwhile Ant is taking notes and literally creates his own internet podcast studio in his basement not long after this and opie stays in obscurity.
They weren't on KROCK for the challenge, it's cause there was a bigger audience and they got a lot of money doing it, even if that meant taking the hit by not talking as openly.
Which was the one where the producer told them that Opie was sitting on a throne, and they needed to add more sound effects, so they moved the broadcast to the bathroom?
Opie couldn't even rant entertainingly. He gets his pissy self-centered rant going and can't even acknowledge jokes that Jimmy and Ant are throwing out.
I love how nobody ever called Opie out
they were all cowardly
@@kennedywilliams2280 Yeah they were
Mainelli Just seems bitter he really didnt make any points
I know right! Oh, except all the points he made ended up coming true! Apart from that though.
@@gregsmith1641 I dont think you listened to the audio i listened to. What parts came true and actually use your brain don't just say all
@@Buckets50 😂 so you don't think he made any points? Gotcha.
Grown men saying “F you” to each other. “Holy S” You’re a broadcaster, expand your vocabulary. Opie was always the worst (in general) at playing around censored radio.
Have nothin betterdo than list to us inda minnlenight! -opie
Sounds like John was right in the end
i got it i got it i got it....... exactly like opie says on the show
Complaining about the PC culture in '07. Shit, phoney bullshit like "alternate pronouns" weren't even a thing back then. God, this country has gone to shit.
People were complaining about PC culture all the way back in the early 90s. The movie PCU rode in on the end of that wave.
Wow, This is an great example of O and A dealing with "Cancel Culture" from way back.
they talked bout it almost daily since imus got fired
That picture says it all. Look at Opie, oddly waaaaay in the background. And in the end the guy was 100% right about everything, and they knew it. That's why they didn't absolutely trash him. He actually shut Opie up and had Ant agree with him, for the most part.
opie started the show. you are a dopey listener.
Ant and Jim are just trying to cover up for this complete GREGGSHELLS bit, because if they didn't, it would be completely uncomfortable.
51:40 I’m embarrassed to ask this question but what is this song name? It has a an amazing guitar riff
Are you gonna go my way. Lenny Kravitz.
I thought you meant thunder kiss 65', which follows it in the next segment.
Paul Wood Hey thanks!
No problem sir. Nice to see someone else besides me watches these old O and A clips....lol
This was back in 2007, slowpoke.
Y does Jimmy sit this fight out?
Say what you will about Opie but the fact that Tom wouldn’t leave the room to go call the lawyer and then all the sudden Opie is on the phone with John to basically do Tom’s job for him, that shit was funny
Any time anyone brought up the numbers being down to Opie they were always wrong or lying or didnt know what they were talking about....its so odd.
im not exactly clear why dopie was crowing about their ratings....they had a 2.1 share in nyc
in two years, they would be dropped from every station that simulcast the xm show
Let the man speak Ope
Opie is such a choad
Opie hates people who blame their failures on others....
Shame these guys just can't come together now and do a podcast they Could get away with anything
Mega Man opie is the only problem. He refuses to talk to Anthony and jimmy can’t stand him anymore because the way he was treated. Opie sucks and if he could ever put his ego aside we might have the show back but it’s too important for him to prove he can “Do it on his”. He’s too dumb to realize he can’t...
@@Smokefrog-jb2uz nah jimmy's DONE with Opie. i doubt he'd be willing to be in t he same room. can't blame him.
Animal Crosley's Tour Manager I agree dude. I was saying the same thing.
Wow. Listening to this in retrospect, you can really see how out of touch John was. The direction they took the show, having big guests that may not fit their "demo", was WAY better than what this fool had in mind. Silly characters? News segments? What a clown.