Travel Router Hardwire - Better than Wi-Fi!
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I’ve never seen a hotel with Ethernet that doesn’t have a captive portal, even with the “behind the tv” trick.
It depends on how the hotel sets up the equipment. Generally you do want it on at least an isolated vLAN, but we ourselves avoid putting it on a captive portal because people are wanting to put their X boxes and playstations on it. The whole point of a captive portal for most hotels is to keep it for guests only, agreeing to TOS secondary, but if they're in the hotel it isn't a worry. Whoever set up the system in the first place may have defaulted to a captive portal (usually a third party); we've set it up to the ethernet not having one by experience, but we handle 90% of our hotels ourself
Yep.
@@bodhiench Pretty much nailed it. I only see captive portals on wired connections due to laziness. The most common I've seen is where they've got the guest WiFi and public LAN ports on the same VLAN and treat them all the same.
@@slightlyevolved I'm not so convinced that is is laziness per se. I work with a few other companies, and it ranges from lack of knowledge about vLANs, lack of importance to isolating networks, and only in one case due to laziness: "Few will actually do it" whereas it was the same tech that refused to run a fax line through a PBX for fear that the PBX would be hacked (which is the heart and soul of their business, installing phone systems). I've trained Dish Network techs on getting headend systems (it is a satellite box that installs, decodes satellite signals, and then rebroadcasts them on television channels so you don't need a box behind every television) on the internet so that they can remotely service them; with them, it is simply lack of knowledge about vLANs, which in a big case resulted in them getting hacked.
Same, and it is very rare to see a hotel that even has a wired connection anymore. Also the little gli-net routers have so much bandwidth that splitting it isn't going to make any difference in the internet bandwidth from the hotel.
I'm a hotel engineer - that box on the back of the television controls the channels you watch and the ability to check out/view your receipt. Sometimes there will also be a port on the phone marked "Data"; sometimes there will be a port near the phone jack. Anymore, we are installing in-room APs that have multiple ports, but some older hotels may not have bothered to wire all of their rooms (an issue that I see when doing installs). In addition, some of the newest hotel televisions can act as an AP - we just retrofitted a hotel with those.
Thats actually really interresting, would you mind elaborating on those new tvs with inbuilt APs, this sounds really interresting
How does hotel television work?
@@hyperfluff_folf Hospitality televisions: Generally, there's a control panel once you put the television into hospitality mode. You'll get options like FTG or Pro:Idiom, which will allow you to descramble coded signals in much the same way your cable box does (and some cable companies do use headend boxes for premium channels at hotels). The control panel will allow you to set maximum volume on the television, the startup volume and channel, and other features, including reprogramming the order that the channels appear on the television.
Major manufacturers like LG, Samsung, and Panasonic make them. Each one has a specific programming method, ranging from free-standing control units and programs that you install on your computer. You then would clone televisions via USB once you have a master setup.
The ones with built-in AP's are from Philips. You click a button and a QR code pops up on the television to sign you into the network. There are a few other features that make them ideal for hotels, like built-in STB's that you can use in place of the 'Evolve" boxes supplied by Dish Network that will make any HDMI television a smart television - and giving people the option to be able to check out from the television and view their folio. I particularly like them because I can use a web interface to access the televisions to program them (a dedicated card can be installed on the computer that will communicate in much the same way via RF/Coax that is supplying the channel information, but mine goes via WiFi or ethernet). Guests can rent movies through Google Play, another nice feature, and stream directly from their phone if they so choose. If you have the card installed into your computer, the televisions will automatically program themselves as soon as you connect them and turn them on the first time.
@@hyperfluff_folfHotel television shows you crappy shows, but mostly ads. That's how it works 😂
is AP
access point?
@@Eduardo_Espinoza yep
Most hotels don’t have lan ports and if they do, they aren’t connected. I travel a lot and with a GliNet router. I’ve tested them all and it’s exceedingly rare to find a working lan port.
Thanks for the tip to look behind the TV for an Ethernet port. Never occurred to me.
Because you're not supposed to.
why@@shaunclarke94
Love this device… use it on my international Delta Flight for the entire family (4 phones, 2 iPads and 2 laptops) all connected from one login. We got to our hotel, same thing for the entire trip. Best hack ever and we will be using it for our upcoming cruise.
Just did this with the same router at the Westin Hotel in Seattle. Hard Wired it was WAY better! The LAN port was below the desk. My co-worker a floor down also ran off of my network, as his WiFi was terrible. Lol
I travel for work and have been doing it for over 3 years, and have only seen 2 hotels with a ethernet/lan port.
Nice, but dated, business hotels are where I've seen the lion's share. (basically stuff renovated in 2005-2010; rarer as each day passes due to chain modernity requirements.)
This has to be a cost cutting thing. Why run hundreds of Ethernet drops to every single room when they will probably not be used by 99% of guests? Instead, run far fewer drops for APs to provide wireless coverage throughout the property.
Don’t get me wrong, I am in the 1% that looks for an Ethernet port when I stay at a hotel, but I rarely find them anymore and can understand why.
I've seen tons that don't even work.
Some places lock out the LAN-port on the hotel router as a security measure.
It's actually a docsis modem attached to the set top box for the the OTT apps on the set top box. Netflix etc...
Lol I had to work with clients to fix those when I worked at an ISP. Was a network service desk.
I've sometimes spent hours with my GL-Inet Slate and captive portals. Sneaky DNS and DHCP stuff. Would have definitely preferred a LAN port but there wasn't one anywhere. These little travel routers are amazing though.
First time I used my Travel Router on a trip. I must of spent two hours trying to figure it out. I somehow got it via searching the internet but the only hardwired devices that plugged into the router would be behind my VPN. I gave up and just used my Unlimited Hotspot from CalyX institute.
i have the older slate 750m
still works great, used hardwired most of the time with a cell connection as a backup, but is a repeater for the rare place with no ethernet
Last time I was in Vegas (Paris hotel) I brought my GLiNet router, but I used it as a wireless repeater because I couldn’t find an Ethernet jack. I became frustrated with the speed and started looking around the room again. After moving the heavy nightstand away from the wall, I found a very dusty box that had an Ethernet jack! I had to use a q-tip to dislodge a dust bunny from inside the Ethernet port! I got it working and the connection was much faster!
I just got a Beryl AX travel router for use in ny flat. I have no ethernet ports, but with this router my internet speed increased from 25Mbps max to about 130Mbps max, comppetely wirelessly. Obviously wired is better if you can use it, but this router can do really well sinply repeating a WiFi connection
Unfortunately, many hotels do not offer Ethernet connectivity any longer. I travel a lot (49% of the year) and have given up on bringing my own router.
AirBnB.
99% of them don’t have wired Ethernet. I’m on the road 50 weeks out of the year. ITT went away many years ago.
Sometimes it’s on the hotel phone if it’s a VoIP phone, older hotels use analog landlines which won’t work
I use a unified Express for my travel router, because I like being able to plug it in and have it established a VPN connection back to my house so I can use my pie hole for web filtering
Slate AX can connect wireless and wired and do load balancing on both connections
So connecting to the lan cable going to the tv Set top box can be an issue since that port can be configured only to work with a specific subnet or Mac. If you can find the access point in the room and connect to the one of the ports on it, you would have better connection and throughput.
I never been to a hotel room with a lan port. Regardless most of the time I just use my cellular Internet because it's far better.
This is a huge nope for me. I always use my own hotspot or in some hotels I have to tethering directly to my phone.
The one time I plugged into an ethernet port there was a knocked on the door within 20 minutes because an unauthorized client had connected to the wired network. Turns out they had no security on their wired network, only the wireless. If they don't have a captive portal, that probably means everyone can listen on.
Why did they knock on the door, i would have just disabled the port on the switch.
no security, but they knew that you had plugged into the network?
Something is not right with this story.
A lot of hotels don’t have hardwire Ethernet. And there WiFi will let you connect wirelessly but doesn’t stay connected for long. I been to so many hotels and motels that do this.
Thanks, I needed this in 2009. Cool to have though.
The times I've been on holiday abroad or in hotels, not ever once have i thought to bring my own router or look behind the TV if there was a box lol
I travel with a Cradlepoint R920. If there is a wire I use that but cellular also works
It even has a WIFI as WAN that lets me piggy back off a guest network while keeepimg my router configuration intact
Harldy any hotels have them but Air BNBs mostly do. You can make a great unit with a Raspberry pi with a killer firewall.
What travel bag do you use for the router, that I see under the router itself? Looking for something myself. 🙂
Was there still a bandwidth speed limit on the Ethernet connection? Usually, on the guest Wi-Fi, each client device has its bandwidth capped. Could be as low as 2 Mbps and as high as 60 Mbps based on my experience.
Yeah "Wireless is the future" if you're lucky enough to have a land connection in the room it might not be connected because "we don't need that anymore"....
Who ever seriously thought that and had more then entry level IT knowledge?
Hotel room usually dont have eth nowadays, i did find a cable behind a tv when my dad was at the hospital, plugged a UAP, it turns on, free commection, and on the same vlan as their internal network where they also have printers and nas
This is exactly what i was looking for, thanks so much.
Would the new UniFi Express be a good travel router?
No - it can’t function as a Wi-Fi repeater on the WAN side.
Currently watching this from a hotel using my GLiNet via VPN from wireward and kill switch activated too :P
If the hotel has a login page for the WiFi, can this device work with that and appear as the only Mac on that connection so I can use all my devices with one single login?
Yes
Can you please explain why we need a travel router? Im always curious about this
So all your clients (devices) i.e Laptops, your phone, her phone, kids phone Fire or Google TV sticks can all be on the same network segmented from everyone else in the hotel.
@@MJHeagy thanks , so because of security?
@@alirezaghassemian4748Yes, people can watch your traffic if they are on the same wifi connection as you.
You could also when you travel and connect to public wifi spots use a VPN.
@@alirezaghassemian4748yes - also some hotels only allow a certain number of wifi devices per reservation.
@@alirezaghassemian4748mainly security, but it also lets you do things like control your Fire TV stick with your phone on the network
The chances of firing a set-top box that's able to give you internet from that land port is slim to none.
I used the LAN in hotel a few months back but it was unfortunately doing 1-2mbps compared to wifi going at 40mbps. So gl-inet with wifi back home into my vpn
My only question is, wouldn't this be considered a rogue access point? I think I remember in my studies that these can be bad for company (in this case a hotel) security.
From a purely technical standpoint you are right. The term "rogue AP" is a bit misleading here as it implies that there are always bad intentions behind them. Which is not always the case. But then, given how "meh" security at most hotels is, you're probably not making it worse by using a travel router in your room. I would consider it a bit of a gray area.
In my years of traveling, I have never ever seen one hotel employee, let alone one of the IT people at the hotel rear their head and pooh-pooh these devices. Chances are they have no idea what those are, let alone what they do or that they even exist. For the hotel it is probably just not worth the hassle to pester their guests about what devices they use, and they likely just don't care. And if hotels have all their guests AND their internal IT stuff floating around on the same flat network with no proper segmentation (i.e VLANs, with proper firewalls in between and a rule set that is not "any/any"), then they definitely have other, bigger things to worry about than Joe Shmoe and his kids watching Netflix in their room over a little travel router.
how do you set it up for firat time user. thank you
Between the Beryl AX and the UniFi express, which one would you recommend as a travel router?
Beryl as it has has a better os which is Openwrt
I have seen a hotel room with a LAN port in the desk lamp.
is it really worth the jump in price to get the AX version?
Travel router that’s so cute. Annie cheap router will work.
You could just use a laptop as an access point. I did it at Disney as a kid about 14 years ago. Back then $10 a day just for ethernet access.
no no no no I was at a hotel that had captive portal on the ethernet connections in the conference room. I don't remember why firefox was closed but I reopened it and had 100 and something tabs go to the captive portal! Thankfully the refer referred back to the original address but that is when I learned I should have my Firefox profile backed up hourly.
The more I get into this video, it cracks me up. So you’re allowed to just enter and SS ID password and make it into a repeater
I have that router. It is a real little beast
what is the benefit of the 2nd point?
I don't understand
That ethernet port looks like for the TV itself, or for that receiver
Do you set it up as a router or an access point?
You're taking your WAN from the TV's LAN?
So if you already have a hotel Wifi and a wored connection as well, how using the wired connection is going to help you with your "cut into your available wireless bandwidth" problem? :D
I think it means that wifi module of the router will be only used as an access point, not also as a client
You lost me at wired connection in hotel rooms, you must be staying somewhere fancy.
Nah it really just depends. I've been at 2-3 star hotels that'll have a lan port and 5 star hotels that didn't
Ah so true… very good advice 👍
Where I travel Ethernet ports are no where to be found.
So this is used as a router? Does it have DHCP?
I’ve never been in a room of a hotel that doesn’t have a Ethernet port at the desk
Only go to fancy Old people hotel chains?
Never been in a hotel with a working LAN connection. And the WiFi is always terrible.
That device on the back of the TV looks like it connects using WiFi, I can only see a single LAN port which you've already connected into... lol
I just bought an ASUS router. Many of them have router, access point, and repeater mode on setup. It's also like 1/2 the price of these.
Most hotels are dropping their LAN connections 😢
Assuming it works
Just set your WiFi to a different channel so it won't compete with the hotel WiFi.
man that's an ordinary cable modem , they just hid it a little
and use a VPN
Will this work in Mexico?
why wouldn't it? LAN is LAN wherever you go
Every IT professional is doing a facepalm as they watch this video thinking "user is a 4 letter word!"
“Usually never”
Why not just use your phone AP?
Just use a VPN if you’re paranoid 😂
this is the guy sec ops fears 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂
Too bad more and more hotels are "renovating" their rooms and eliminating room NICs
I just know i would not be using a router with programming from other countries.
Can this run a VPN?
Yes. Pretty much all GL.iNet routers have VPN capability.
Yes, you have several options available with the default firmware, but you can install packages from the standard OpenWRT community repository to add more, such as Tailscale or Wireguard if it's not part of the firmware on your device.
Double NATing is always an option :)
That’s a cable box…..
What's the difference? the hotel's Wi-Fi network or the hotels wired network You're still on their network. vulnerable and easily hacked. That's assuming you have someone who knows what they're doing.
Most places limit the number of devices you can connect. With the travel router you can connect multiple device on your router and it will look like 1 device is connected.
The part on back of the TV is a cable router.
I'd just put on vpn and call it a day
This tip is 1997 old…
Marketing
This or the Unifi Express?
UniFi Express isn't a travel router.
@@CrosstalkSolutionsIt's the one feature that could make that a killer device. Imagine having the full power of the OpenWRT style repeater interface in a Unifi Express? Travel gold!
@@fullsleevetats the Beryl AX shown in this video uses a GUI that's based on OpenWRT, and allows you to load custom OpenWRT versions of your choice
most places dont alowed you to do that
Meanwhile I just use Tailscale ….
Don’t listen to op. You don’t use public WiFi. What you need to get is a cellular mobile Hotspot. Don’t use the hotel internet where you have no idea who’s running it how secure it is ect..
Not an option in many instances.
1. I have no idea why so many people believe in the VPN marketing about security. Generally it is the the browser and the sites that people log into that sell most of their data. And they do not care if you are using a VPN. Almost all traffic is Client-to-Server encrypted anyways these days.
2. Many of these routers support tunneling all traffic through a VPN. (did you notice the VPN settings tab?)
3. These routers have a firewall that prevents traffic that was not requested by the connected devices from entering the local network.
4. There are some routers that filter requested traffic (Advertisement/trackers mainly)
5. I am not paying for an expensive data plan that may in some places result in slower and sometimes flaky internet connection.
The router makes its own secure network off the hotel router lmao
The port is hidden behind the TV because it wasn't intended for your use. 🤷♂️
intended and available are not the same thing.
It’s pronounced rooter. Dam colonials.😂
That’s the lan port of the television, I’m sure you are not getting internet there 😅
I worked in that hotel room for 2 days straight using that connection…worked fine.
@@CrosstalkSolutions how was it getting the internet? Is there another ethernet port on that box?
@@EnricoLorenzoni599It could be a modem
@@EnricoLorenzoni599 possibly MoCA bridge
Duhhh
Do you really need to torrent at hotels 😂
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And why should you carry adițional shitt , you can use your phone wich wil pe better at having a hotshot
Waaam
u should just use ur mum
I do not recommend Hotel Guests use routers, most of them make mistake of creating Rogue DHCP Servers on the LAN as most hotels do not have DHCP Snooping configured. I recommend guests just use their laptop or cellphone as hotspot for internet sharing. Travel routers are not a good idea
> most of them make mistake of creating Rogue DHCP Servers on the LAN
That wouldn't work, unless your travel router's subnet was _exactly the same_ as the hotel's subnet, in which case you just change it. Hotel networks are already configured so they can't see devices from other rooms or floors, but NAT solves that.
> Travel routers are not a good idea
They're a fantastic idea. Maybe not for you, but for tens of thousands of others, they work fine, and should be encouraged, not discouraged.
Rogue DHCP means there is more than one DHCP Server in the LAN even if they are in different subnets, most hotels especially low budget ones do not have that configuration of isolating traffic from other rooms so a rogue DHCP will be catastrophic. May you please let me know what a Travel Router can do that your Laptop or Phone Hotspot cannot do? Remember many people doing something does not mean it is correct.
@@7LAYERS My travel Router runs a solid Firewall, tunnels any of my Traffic through my personal VPN, and manages my DNS through VPN, so none of my personal Data gets compromised. And when this doesn't work, i still have a hefty large chunk of Data available through 4G/5G mobile.
@@1lI1l1Il I agree, maybe in specific situations, I recommend the device be secured rather than relying on router security because most of the time, you will not be in the hotel room, and you may use other Wi-Fi networks like coffee shops where you cannot use the router. In a nutshell, all that router can do, your laptop is able to do it without the risk of causing issues like Rogue DHCP or Wi-Fi Interference. Also note that in the video he connects the router to a TV Box risking QoS issues in the TV Stream VLAN.
Where did you get the travel case the Beryl is sitting on top of?
His link to the router on Amazon shows they sell several cases that would fit this router.