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We don't currently have a technology to turn waste heat into energy as far as I'm aware. Seems like a serious stumbling block as its already hot as hell on mercury and your actions would create more heat
There's a lot of handwavium in this tutorial. 1. it just assumes that the captors system will be stable(it won't be, even gravitationally), and won't bifurcate into hyper-kessler syndrome 2. same as 1. but applied to the society that's coordinating to build the replicators Chaos theory and group theory seem to indicate that in general system complexities are capped. Super-stability is in general a weird assumption, considering how human societies have been at war for the most of human history and prehistory, and how at this very moment we're on a brink of nuclear war. As for the fermi paradox, if you assume many worlds interpretation, with infinitely many worlds your likelihood to find yourself in a habitable universe goes up, as the number of finely tuned filters goes down. So i'd expect to pretty much always find oneself in an almost uninhabitable universe that produced life by astronomically unlikely coincidence.
Great video and channel. I would suggest lowering the background music and even better not having it for most or even all of the video. I firmly believe background music is not necessary and distracting for information-dense educational videos. People want to learn/get information, not hear generic background music.
I love how you left out some of the scariest stuff from the paper, like: “But nature has solved these problems quite well already; a centipede-like structure would provide easy movement, and roots are already capable of extracting all sorts of materials in all sorts of environments.” Excuse me? Did they just say they want to send “centipede-like” synthetic organisms to colonize the universe on our behalf? Glory to the empire of man I guess lmao.
Elder Centipede :) And BTW all this "start a civilization on a new planet" phase is just left out. So, will it be robot civilization rooting to the original replicator? Whats in it for us? Or maybe they are going to artificially construct human-like being on every new planet? These new humans would need to be different, in accordance to the conditions of the planet. Sounds like a birth of million different alien races, not the human expansion. And then a war, obviously.
Fun fact: Once the Dyson Swarm is up, you can actually make another megastructure that will massively help in keeping Humanity alive: a Solar Motor. It takes hydrogen and helium from a star, fuses the helium to make oxygen that it uses as a propellant, and then fires the leftover hydrogen and neutrons back at the star to push it along.
Yes. We can send all those galaxies towards the local group so that they become causually connected to us. Then we'll have billions of times more matter and energy to use for delaying the heat death of our portion of the universe.
@@davgonz9 I don't. Even if you found a way to connect to other universes and harness their energy, you'd still eventually maximise the entropy of all available universes and dimensions. Even if you could travel through time and steal energy from the past, you'd still run out of energy at all points in time. Harvesting the energy from the fabric of spacetime won't work as it's already at maximum entropy by nature. Anything you try to do to harvest energy from space will cause an equal energy trade. You can take energy from space but space will take it back almost immidiatly. e.g. Hawking radiation.
This guide was very useful. After having used a few slower methods in the past, it is much better to use this method and it has increased my universe colonization rates by approximately 10 fold
@@takokyatto8874 how are you criticizing me and the generic use of "we", but you're doing the exact same thing by saying "noone"? I don't even know what exactly I was referring to anymore, but it looks like I was just joking back anyway Re: how humanity takes so long to do anything anyway. 🤷
Imagine... a collab series where you discuss the ways humanity can preventively defend against all known dangerous solutions to the Fermi Paradox. Anyway, quality videos here and over where you are ^^
Make sure to save the project files for this animation so you can translate it to alien languages so they can see the first steps in the project. As long as the aliens can see photons and have a concept of different wavelengths for colors, this media could be converted to a format they can observe.
@@mariox204 I think the intelligent alien encounters will be scientists trying to share their different understandings of the universe, but there will also be grabby aliens that expand at some fraction of c. The former would be interested in this video, the latter will probably spread anyways eventually, so I personally don't think its a bad idea but that is up to future civilization to determine.
@@HorsiMusic Subtitles exist, any intelligent life form capable enough to make contact with us must have the concept of communication and by extension language
Honestly the only real problem about this is that the self replication aspect may turn around into a “grey ooze” scenario where the probes would end up circling back to our galaxy and consume all star systems including ours Edit: i've been getting comments for months now and i want to clarify another issue with these you couldn't really solve, we cannot define life whenever we only have one example. This is an issue because these drones may destroy alien life that it cannot recognize simply by mining or terraforming a planet and cannot be solved because we cannot account for things we dont know.
You are forgetting mutations. The instructions will suffer entropy overtime and inevitably lead to many, many destructive self replicating probes. In the end, probes that never stop self-replicating under any conditions, and are extremely fast and efficient will be those that survive and dominate everywhere. This design is an existential threat to any civilization that produces it and actually ALL otherlife forms in the universe because it is inevitably self-destructive. Actually it's very likely that on this scale your network of machines will evolve parasite machines that feed off the dyson swarms to release themselves as well...
You’d need some way to make it so the new civilizations wouldn’t spread to their source. You could have them communicate and check if another species is there but that might take too long. So you could encode them with not wanting or be able to spread back to where they came from, like some kind of giant dark area in space with no reason to spread there.
You could simply bake a kill switch into the probes. If they encounter a certain radio wavelength it will neutralise them and cease their functionality. You could even make it so that this happens with any artificial radio signal, so as to prevent accidentally starting an interstallar war with your autonomous probes.
This is really great. The whole production quality has improved so much, while keeping the charm of the original animations. Congrats to the team for pulling this off!
This animation is better and higher quality than Cartoon Network's. It's been less than five minutes and you've already earned my subscription with all notifications turned on. Simply incredible.
@@harryhall4001scientists and engineers don't pool manpower like that without some organizing force behind us. We can't. We have to eat, regrettably. The only way to put it together would be with the support of international governments or enormous private investment. If there's private investment involved, though, it will get bogged down with whatever those bean counters think they can get out of the venture, and we will be intergalactic embarrassments as we carve logos and advertisements into every planet in the universe. That leaves governments, and that means we are not going to get this done.
If I learned anything from playing Universal Paperclips is you have to also watch out for deviation amongst the probes or you'll end up creating your own enemies. Although I suppose after enough time that would happen amongst humans themselves since they would be too far from each other and become alien to each other.
Watch out for it? It's a good thing, competition promotes evolution of systems. In order for something to be better, there must be something else to compare it to. This would exponentially grow the efficiency of the colonizers. The whole reason the technology of European human cultures became so much more advanced than the rest is because of the crowded imperial space. Europe's political divisions and wars since the end of the Pax Romana accelerated technology. This can be seen in the fact that China was the first to invent guns but could only advance them during civil wars. (As slow to fire early guns were useless against China's long time enemy, the fast central asian horsemen.) The Eastern titan was simply too big and too centralized to achieve what the West did with it's technology. (It was perfectly culturally adapted to fending off central asian hordes with it's massive size and rigidly controlled government, but could not compete with advancing Western tech that allowed global exploration, subjugation, and was subject to competition/arms races between multiple expanding global empires.)
@@fandomguy8025 Competition does breed progress, but that usually (if not always) comes at the expense of the other party or parties like you said. This only works when you can know what the other party is doing. On the galactic scale that isn't really possible. It's hard to compete with someone when you don't even know what they're doing, and by time you do it's probably too late. So I really don't think creating potential existential threats for the sake of "competition" is a good thing... Unless you want to replicate evolution is space and don't mind potentially having all local life go extinct, replaced with something that's artificially "better". There will always be people who want to progress for the sake of progress, so lets try and keep our "competitor" to a minimum. We already can barely handle earth scale ones let alone planetary and larger.
@@Pheonix1328 The fact that you can't know what the other party is doing is simply a form of variation(diversity), with variation comes selection, that's how evolution works. Yes, evolution is what I'm talking about. There's nothing artificial about it. Fighting for survival is how life grows. Even when that growth is prosocial, there must be another group to compete against. Lack of such is why earth remains divided, with recent unity only an illusion caused by temporary war exhaustion which is now clearly running out. Ideals of progress only dominate in competative environments, like genes, cultures (memes) also face environmental pressures. Be it in warfare or in market competition between firms (companies.) Meanwhile, in uncompetative environments, ideals of tradition tend to prevail, like China, which had little interest in purchasing Western innovations from traders and was slow to implement reforms before they ended up subsumed. Same with Korea. Japan, however, which had been broken up into feuding feudal lands for ages, safe from the centralizing effects of Central Asian horsemen, understood the significance of western innovations much faster and took a different path.
As a Kurzgesagt-level video this is great, showing interesting potential technology. As an actual plan to space colonization it glosses over a lot of important stuff. One of the problems NASA faced when designing self-replicating factories, is that a more complex system can do more, but is much harder to make. This is the complexity equivalence of the rocket equation. A microchip is light and can make the system more flexible, but making it requires very heavy and complex machines. You can make a self-assembling robot, if you provide it with all the needed parts, but having a system which mines, refines, manufactures, builds and tests more of itself is another thing entirely. This is why we haven't really made a real self-replicating machine you can drop on the Moon or Mercury. Making a system which can manufacture a Dyson Swarm and launch interstellar probes would be even more complex, and thus heavier. The "nature does it, so can we" is also not really applicable. An acorn depends on finding very specific conditions for temperature, light, nutrients, humidity, etc. This is the reasons humans have less DNA than frogs - our embryos develop in protected, temperature-controlled environment. A virus depends on even more specific ones - it needs a living cell to replicate, effectively tricking the cell into making more viruses. A system which can replicate itself on the harsh surface on the Moon/Mercury would be on the other side of the spectrum, so much larger. And finally - if we have a probe that lands on a planet it needs to make a lot more than the probe. It needs to make the entire technological chain, decision-making, launch system, dyson swarm and so on. Even then - self-replicating machines are not Human Civilization. That's more likely to send probes back to our system and use our cities as material for self-replicating drones. We would need it to prepare its system for humans, and to detect when there already are humans so it can deactivate. And we need a way to deactivate them easily and remotely in case the safeguards fail. This is all a very interesting topic of discussion with a lot of nuance, but sadly it can't be contained in a 20 minute youtube video or a comment. It makes for an awesome sci-fi idea, though. The Expanse being perhaps the most famous user.
This is certainly a high-quality comment. I wish we as humans had the highest level of integrated capacity we can reckon, at all times, and as individuals who are collectively striving for the objective and creative subjective good, and sometimes we ARE a LITTLE BIT like that but wouldn't it be so nice if we were all biological superempathic-superintelligent creative hyperturboextremogenuii?
Nope. There's no limitation that says the replicators are a single species, type or caste. In order to build microchips, the swarm would just build a microchip factory. Or a factory for whatever else is needed, then assemble them together. There's no need to blindly follow the biological analogy. And within organisms, there are plenty of parts or molecules that are created at one place and transported to and used by another. Microchips would make for a tiny amount of the total mass, so there's not really a problem. All of this depends on a massive amount of planning intelligence, of course.
@@Andreas-gh6is Within organisms, the molecules are not created out of nothing. All biological organisms, and machines, work in only in specific conditions - pressure, temperature, access to specific input materials. If you want the organism or machine to be more robust, and work in a greater range of temperatures, for example, you need to make them heavier, or make them do less, or otherwise make a compromise. My issue is that the video talks about miniaturizing self-replicating agents and gives viruses as examples - viruses don't build microchips. You need something a lot bigger. As for the "just build a microchip factory" - this handwaves the problem away. Building a microchip factory here and now is a Billion dollar investment requiring many years and people, depending on a very long chain of subcontractors. It is not something that you build from a replicator the weight of a virus. Or an acorn. It doesn't matter what the mass of the microchip is - unless you suggest bringing all the microchips you will ever need with the replicator - which would make the replicator a lot heavier and remove its ability to fully replicate. And this is not even going into the rabit hole of detecting resources you need, prospecting, and digging them out - before you get the resources you need. This means you need to carry them with you - a lot of them, so you can jumpstart the entire self-replicating process. Maybe, in some centuries, we will get the technologies to make a universal self-replicator. Getting there is not an "easy step" and you can't handwave the complexity away. Feel free to prove me wrong and build such a replicator in your back yard, but until then this is strictly science-fiction
There's one problem with this. Data gets corrupted. Whether through cosmic radiation or through the decay of particles things change, and if you take these tiny changes and replicate them billions of times, you're going to run into a problem. If we're lucky the problem will be that our probes stop working after a certain number of replications. If we're unlucky our probes will work too well and start disassembling things they shouldn't. Things like Earth. If we're reaaallly unlucky the probes could undergo evolution to the point where we end up with an entirely separate group of grabby aliens created by us, and not under our control.
You can avoid this with sufficient redundancy and error-checking - DNA uses a single level of redundancy and a motley crew of error-checking and correcting molecules, each layer of redundancy makes it exponentially harder for a mutation to occur and go uncorrected (as you need n things to be damaged, so your chance of permanent mutation looks like p^n), while conveniently only increasing your data-storage mass linearly. You can also have probes in the same general destination batch error-check each other before they start firing off their next generation (even have them do a pseudo-SETI to find other members of their batch around nearby stars to get a wide sample) Now, the chances are somewhat correlated (as given that, say, a high-energy photon flipped a bit, it's perhaps more likely that you passed through a brighter area and thus it's more likely that some other bits were flipped), so it will be somewhat worse than that. On the other hand, that's why data-storage methods like isotope encoding are so good - it's a lot harder to move around atoms in a crystal than it is to damage DNA or flip an electronically-stored bit, and for a nucleon-altering reaction, you really only have to worry about, like, hitting an electron just wrong, which would be incredibly hard with even a drop of shielding (or even a mild magnetic field). Also, if one is willing to go a bit further out on a limb of speculation, we could be sending entire communities of (uploaded) people in the probes, even if a bunch of people get some damage, a community of sapients can recognize that something is wrong and take steps to fix everything up before starting the next wave.
if you think about it, organisms that can replicate, but can get little mutations, where only the ones with better mutations survive, these probes are literally going to undergo natural selection like any other organic life, so in some strange way, we might see them come back as an even more optimized version of themselves
You do realize that this is just theoretical and first we have to not nuc ourselves, and then we have to learn to cooperate, and then maybe humanity will be amazing!!!!??????
@pyropulse what the fuck? There's not a single thing in this video that says that, the moto for the first Dyson swarm is literally just automation, which humanity can already do
@pyropulse firstly, I wasnt even talking about A.I, the fuck are you on about? Secondly, I don't think tasks like these are simple and easy, I was only stating that it was possible, even the video itself states that this would probably take a lot of time, resources, and innovation to be possible, I only think it's possible because it theoretically is So in conclusion, fuck you And have a great day
Thanks for the tutorial, didn’t realize that I should’ve used self-replicating probes. I found out the hard way that the human body doesn’t really like the kind of acceleration that a coil gun has.
These videos are leagues ahead of anything else in this field on RUclips! So interesting, entertaining and brilliantly produced! Huge congrats to the production team and long live the eternal empire of us grabby humans!
Excellent video! Ever since I first learned about things like Niven's Ringworld, and Dyson spheres, I love thinking about crazy huge scale projects like this. The concept of sending a single seed off alone to begin an exponentially growing empire is actually the basis of the games in the Total Annihilation/Supreme Commander/Planetary Annihilation RTS series. You start with a single commander unit sent to a planet your faction wants to conquer. Then that commander uses its built in engineering equipment to begin harvesting resources on site, construct more fabrication units and structures, and finally build an army of automated military units to take over the planet. And, once that world is under your control, you can send your commander off to do it all again on the next planet. Thus, you have a never ending galactic scale war. Fun!
I familiar with such RTS since i play Beyond All Reason open-source remake of Total Annihilation. Also i can remember another example of game with exponential economy grow: stellaris.
I've been thinking about consuming the Sombrero Galaxy! I'll be busy for at least the next couple thousand years, though... TMT I'm gonna have to waaaaait!
I LOVE the quality of these videos, but even more than the quality, the ideas they are working on. I know it's not easy to push the limits of science and share really ambitious ideas, but you guys are still doing it, and I really appreciate it. By the way, the Longtermism video you did a while ago led me to read William MacAskill's book, "What We Owe the Future", and this book inspired me a lot at a bad time, so thanks for that too :)
@pyropulse if, on average, the self-replicator produces 1.001 clones before destruction, you are entirely incorrect. While it would be optimal if it were to heal itself, it is not a "need" as you put it. The only real flaws I see in this are 1; maintaining stable temperatures for robotic operation on mercury and dealing with the "useless" mass, 2: expecting all systems to have a mercury-like planet, and 3; achieving relativistic speeds using railguns/railcannons/whatever you wanna call it. It would have to be of insane length, as well as the precision it would take to accelerate a projectile consistently. "A calculation shows that the electron is traveling at about 2,200 kilometers per second. That's less than 1% of the speed of light, but it's fast enough to get it around the Earth in just over 18 seconds" But wait! Veratasium, you see, knows how electricity works. It's not actually about the movement of electrons; this is why you hear a lot about magnetism, electric fields, and electricity in one. Because electricity is not the movement of electrons; it's CAUSED by the movement of electrons; as we know it, electricity is an electric FIELD which does, in fact, move at the speed of light. Wikipedia (I know, not the best source, but good enough in most cases) "The electric field starts at the conductor and propagates through space at the velocity of light (which depends on the material it is traveling through)." So the railcannon is not feasible for 50% of c, let's say. Let's say you can get to 0.01c (1%)... alpha Centauri would only take 436 years; the calculation is quite simple. You're an expert on this topic, you wouldn't need me to explain, right? After all, "anyone" who thinks this is possible is "stupid", my slightly more well-informed logic must be simple to you, yes? I don't really have a solution to the other two issues, but I'm a kid, I have no delusions that I don't have gaps in my knowledge. No point? why does anyone do anything? sheer, absolute boredom! In all seriousness. If you're mature, you recognize, while there is beauty in this world, it's a pretty bad shithole. I won't propagate the continued existence myself, but, I'll die happy if I could make existence for everyone else a little better. This is, by FAR one of the most logical and feasible "sci fi" realities I've ever seen. It doesn't pretend like it all has to be done in a couple hundred years; that's because it can't and won't be. Now, as for cooperation from all the beaurocrats and politicians? Who knows, I certainly don't, and won't pretend like I really care. -A 17yo with a passion for engineering and science.
I subbed to this channel like a year ago and it STILL hasn't reached 100K yet? I think RUclips is broken. Your content is too high quality for you guys to still be less than 100K
@@lemonz1769 its still high quality regardless. I know they do similar stuff to other channels too but doesnt mean it isnt good. They still animate stuff and research.
As a person who has everything required to deconstruct half a Mercury lying around and can make a dyson sphere in 40 years at any time I wish, this proved to be a very helpful tutorial, thanks for teaching me how to make this entire dimension to bow down before me and praise me as their one true leader and GOD, you guys rock :D
This sounds nice in theory but practically speaking no CIV would expand like this. The colonies you are creating are basically going to be at best completely disconnected from yourself and thus worthless, or rivals to your own local expansion. Your colonies have to be in communication range so you can govern over them.
Could be a good safety net for those worried about the extinction of the human race. Any hostile aliens would have a hard time rooting out the human infestations across the galaxy. Sure we may never interact with them, but in some way our species lives on
Define "communication" we are fully capable of communicating at distances of atleast within our own galaxy, other galaxy's would probably have significant time lag.
@@staceyb1873 100,000 years to send a msg and another 100,000 years to get a reply? I wouldn't consider that as fully capable. Even the closest star to earth is 4.2 years away for a msg, and 8.4 total turn around time for a reply. That's just way too long to reasonably manage an empire. In 8 years a coop could've already happend and the planet could've been captured by rebels, an army and space fleet created and they could be on their way to attack you.
Keep in mind that civilization is broadly defined here, so the civilization isn’t implicitly assumed to consist of humans or some other biological life form. The reason I point this out is because humans and other biological lifeforms have limits that various types of non biological information processors won’t. It would be very hard for humans to cohere over great timescales, that I agree with. Human language is spoken at about 40 bits per second, the fastest mental calculators can at most process 60-80 bits per second. We have a small working memory. Don’t confuse latency with bandwidth. If you are going to be communicating over timescales of millions of years, then the corresponding messages must scale up to a similar degree or even more. Your messages must also be coherent over such long timescales. Humans simply don’t have that level of intelligence and memory to do that. It isn’t a priori impossible though. Extremely compact information storage mechanism and extremely fast processors aren’t a problem. Large civilizations would have the energy required to do that. As for the problem of rebellions, basically error correction mechanisms can be made reliable enough that no mutation occurs. Don’t think about regular humans, but copies of superintelligent AI’s, they’re not like us. Also, a billion light years away is far, far away from being basically ‘completely disconnected’. It is not near the radius of the observable universe. It is very advantageous to colonize such large swathes of volume. This is because you have a limited amount of matter, and the universe is expanding, so you need to contract and compress this matter into a smaller volume to limit communication costs and stave off the expansion of the universe.. The more matter you have, the more things you can do with that energy. (There is also the risk of gravitational collapse, so there’s a balance to be struck) Basically my point is that you need to stop interpreting things with an analogy to human society and capabilities. Information processors differ in the amount of memory they have, their speed, their ability to cohere large amounts of information. There is no mathematical theorem that says that this is impossible beyond 10^30 processing cycles or whatever. It is just a difference in scale. It might be a posteriori impossible due to the physical facts of our universe such as limits to how much energy can be extracted, or limits as to what materials are constructible, but it isn’t a priori impossible. As if human levels of information processing turned out to reach a mathematical limit of all algorithms.
Also not really discussed is just what kind of expansion would it be? Sending mechanical probes everywhere? What is the point? Or is the assumption of "all natural processes can be mimicked with technology" including the creation of some sort of homunculus from start dust?
I do want to ask if you’d given any thought to their slight critique of the Hanson model at the end of the paper? Their points about “silent” colonization at the end seem pretty compelling. Both that and their idea about sentinel police probes sent out to stop colonization by different groups from their home culture sound like decent explanations for why we see no evidence for 'grabby' colonization.
Space is vast. Why would we want more of it somewhere else, except to escape from some disaster? Is one star not enough? What are we doing with that energy? It is entirely possible that the direction of progress assumed by Kardashev is sheer lunacy, and if we are destined for galactic dominance, it will be via efficiency, miniaturization, and better society. A few trillion people living around a single star might as well be invisible to our telescopes, particularly if they transmit information using methods we have no means of intercepting. They wouldn't even have to hide on purpose. Just by not making a huge mess or trying to grab every inch of territory and eat it like a bunch of locusts, they would be camouflaged by the noisier, larger Universe.
If memory serves, Philip K. Dick proposed something roughly similar to this on a much smaller scale in his short story "Second Variety" in the sense that one side in a war created autonomous and self-replicating machines to defeat their opponents. Unfortunately, the story doesn't end well for either side.
I like his short story about the AI being sent to fight while humanity hides underground, and the AI goes on to merely pretend to fight, because it considers the war kinda dumb.
Major issue, such probes would be subject to mutations (changes in code through bitflips) and therefore natural selection and could end up wiping us out or, for instance, deciding that they should produce an unspecified (endless) amount of paperclips, among other issues. Plus the number of galaxies that are reachable might be two, milky way and andromeda thats on a crash course with us, because the expansion of the universe doesnt seem to be stopping. Constructing a dyson swarm is possible though.
There are many things that could go wrong with a plan like this. Replicating and recycling would be a big one or propulsion since the probes probably had to move to other star systems in search of a usable planet to build the Dyson sphere and another probe. Not to mention the A. I. needed to prepare for all possible scenarios like system failures, impacts, low energy, no usable planet in reach, solar storms or other unexpected problems.
Every video this channel makes is phenomenal! I think you do a good job summarizing complex ideas while still respecting the intelligence of your viewers.
I already have 2 issues with this step. It isn't unreasonable to assume that redistributing half of the mass of Mercury could possibly have an effect on the movement of the other planets. Also, depending on how the swarm is situated, there will now be less sunlight reaching the Earth which could cause a permanent ice age if the difference is significant enough.
@@RazorbackPT its entirely possible that this swarm won't even be that dense but those details weren't explained in this video in a satisfactory manner
@@jakephelps4924 Although not mentioned, No. A dyson swarm simply isn’t dense enough to block out anywhere near enough sunlight to cause an ice age. Secondly, it is unreasonable to assume half the mass of mercury would affect other planets, and even if it did, I remind you that it’s in almost the exact same orbit as the rest of mercury. At a cosmic level, it just doesn’t matter.
@@tfan2222 being in the same orbit and being in the same spot aren't the same thing. It's also not unreasonable to question how losing half of its mass might affect the orbit of Mercury. If we aren't careful we can easily send Mercury out of its orbit and create an entirely different problem. Likely the big brains behind the project would have considered and accounted for all of the obvious ways this could go wrong and I'm just wasting my time with useless speculations
I love to keep hearing Robert Mile's voice. Hopefully some of his AI research is also put to good use here. Oh, and the philosophy behind your videos is just right for me !
I’ve heard that there was a cut scene from the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey where the Monolith was one of many traveling through the galaxy doing exactly this. 2010: The Year We Make Contact actually explores this concept where you can see the Monolith creating many smaller versions that “stellar-form” Jupiter into a small star. “All these worlds are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landing there. Use them together. Use them in peace.” - HAL-9000, relaying a message from the Monolith
I want to read a scifi book based around this idea so bad. I've been thinking about this kind of thing since I watched the kurtsgazat video on Dyson spheres a while ago and there. are so many cool things that could happen. ex: an alien race that has also gotten grabby notices our competing robots and joins us or fights us, or our drones find inhabited solar systems of other alien races that aren't as advanced as us and we get to be the cool super-advanced aliens from outer space who come down from the sky to meet them, or the robots could become sentient at some point and the story could be told from their prospective building the new worlds and waiting excitedly for the humans to come populate them. so many possibilities.
@@gmatics This. Bobiverse got me into reading books again. Basically, sentient self-replicating robots (whose minds are uploaded from a guy named Bob) begin to colonize our closest neighboring star systems while fighting off aliens and other self-replicating robots... I got the first 2 books on audible for free. Narrator is good. Also available in book form. You should read them!! DO IT!!!!1!11 Polish book covers are way too good also.
Alien Civilization Starting Probes already came here. Videos like these demonstrate that we are ahead of schedule and they are happy with our progress.
3:57 maybe you should give them magnetic fields for repulsion. It could maybe work longer but the problem with that idea is that it could easily misalign mirrors.
My personal favourite solution to the Fermi Paradox is one where all the aliens are just as braindead as humans are. Humanity is the only sapient species we know of, so it makes more sense to base our assumptions of aliens off of what we know about ourselves rather than wildly speculating. What this results in is a universe where all aliens independently invent capitalism and die as a result, usually through extreme climate change.
I'm replying to your planning application for the Dyson swarm. The consultation of the residents highlighted the following fundamental issues: - the dismantling of Mercury would generate a substantially increased level of traffic and noise - the aesthetic of the swarm would not be in keeping with the character of the inner solar system - the position of the mirrors would obstruct the view of the beautiful void beyond the star at the centre of the solar system For such reasons the application is rejected.
Great video. I love the animations too. Only if more people understood these concepts, then we might advance humanity beyond our little star. Definitely subscribing!
Bruh, the U.D.F. has literally been waiting a thousand years for that. They want to admit the original earth to the Universe Of Peace organization or whatnot. Bunch of boring paperwork for me...
As a child, I had an idea for a story in which robots travel the planets and transform all of their matter, including living beings, into five-star hotels for the arrival of a civilization that has extinct long ago. AND HERE IT IS
I love this channel. The subjects are different and the outlook quite positive I love the fact that this video out does Isaac Arthur in it level of optimistic. I have sent this link to quite a few people and but it as a link on some of my favourite channels.
My two questions are this: Would the disassembly of Mercury have a major effect on the orbit of the planets in our solar system? And would building a Dyson Swarm prevent necessary sunlight, or sufficient quantities of sunlight, from reaching our planet?
Presumably whoever's in charge of the swarm would arrange it so that Earth's view of the Sun is either not obstructed, or that an equivalent amount of energy is reflected onto the Earth somehow
You don't need any onboard thrust at all to navigate your solar captors. Just a reaction wheel, since every mirror is also a solar sail. Any time you need to make a course correction, just tilt your mirror and be pushed a different direction, either into your orbit to rise, or against it to drop, or side to side to adjust the orbit itself, before acquiring your target again.
Wow, this was incredible! Amazing production! I just finished a book by Stephen Baxter, where one of the plot lines was an alien species dismantling Mercury for similar purposes, but he definitely didn't get into this level of explanation!
The quality of these videos really deserve more than 20k views. And this channel is way too underrated. Only 87k subs with this much detailed animations.
True, but no matter what time period you live in, you'll always have witnessed or participated in something that every other time period will have missed.
Amazing video-but I can’t help but wonder if this would cause an accidental cosmic genocide. What if the probes start raiding planets with alien life, or worse, planets that already have civilizations of their own? Even if safeguards were included, there’s no way they could be perfect-something might fall through the gap. Could be a decent twist in a novel at least, but still a horrifying concept
I've got serious concerns with "everything can be automated" (given rhe failures of AI in the real world) and the potential dangers to intelligent life that a poorly designed Von Neumann fleet could pose.
Ai is constantly improving. It isn't static. People though televisions were bad and would never get better but now they're a major focus in the modern world.
Because we don't have the technology to do this; heck, the basic requirement is a dyson swarm and we still haven't been able to mine an asteroid, we cannot do this now but maybe in the future.
If all biological structures could be replicated artificially then how do we know we are not artificial drones designed to help another being take over the galaxy? Were we the probes all along?
This is so cool to think about. The Ancients in Stargate could done this easily. They built seed ships that would travel at FTL in a fleet that would collect resources and build Stargates (which make a wormhole to other gates if you are not a fan) on planets that may have resources for a future expedition across the universe. If they had instead built ships that would build a Dyson Swarm and a ship construction yard to build seed ships and more construction ships. The Ancients existed for millions of years and could of had at least a supercluster wide network of Stargates powered by Dyson Swarms instead of a couple galaxies and some partial galaxies of outdated short range Stargates. I'm sure that a Dyson Swarm could power Stargate connections from across the universe, Bussard collectors scooping from stars was nearly able to do so.
a "rigid Dyson sphere" was never even a thing. a Dyson sphere IS a Dyson swarm. that was his original idea. it was always supposed to be a bunch of independent satellites
I’d argue an alternative modification to the launch system where the entire local structure pauses or greatly reduces production and enters a “launch phase” where the Dyson Swarm redirects a majority of its outbound energy into the solar sails of the probes. The problem of this is, it reduces in efficiency the more probes are launched in a batch at a time. This efficiency comes back over time as the distance from the parent swarm, and subsequent acceleration, increases.
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In this tutorial, we will teach you how to take over the universe in three easy steps. We will use amounts of energy and resources that are small compared to what is at our disposal in the Solar System. Watch this video, and you’re good to begin.
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We don't currently have a technology to turn waste heat into energy as far as I'm aware. Seems like a serious stumbling block as its already hot as hell on mercury and your actions would create more heat
There's a lot of handwavium in this tutorial.
1. it just assumes that the captors system will be stable(it won't be, even gravitationally), and won't bifurcate into hyper-kessler syndrome
2. same as 1. but applied to the society that's coordinating to build the replicators
Chaos theory and group theory seem to indicate that in general system complexities are capped. Super-stability is in general a weird assumption, considering how human societies have been at war for the most of human history and prehistory, and how at this very moment we're on a brink of nuclear war.
As for the fermi paradox, if you assume many worlds interpretation, with infinitely many worlds your likelihood to find yourself in a habitable universe goes up, as the number of finely tuned filters goes down. So i'd expect to pretty much always find oneself in an almost uninhabitable universe that produced life by astronomically unlikely coincidence.
I love this for some reason.
Great video and channel. I would suggest lowering the background music and even better not having it for most or even all of the video. I firmly believe background music is not necessary and distracting for information-dense educational videos. People want to learn/get information, not hear generic background music.
I love how you left out some of the scariest stuff from the paper, like: “But nature has solved these problems quite well already; a centipede-like structure would provide easy movement, and roots are already capable of extracting all sorts of materials in all sorts of environments.” Excuse me? Did they just say they want to send “centipede-like” synthetic organisms to colonize the universe on our behalf? Glory to the empire of man I guess lmao.
Paper is and video are amazing as always
Just need a Butlerian Jihad to come deal with unfriendly AGI just until our alignment game catches up to our capabilities 😇🙏🏻
Have centipedes construct biolabs from local material to grow new human beings to live there.
Elder Centipede :) And BTW all this "start a civilization on a new planet" phase is just left out. So, will it be robot civilization rooting to the original replicator? Whats in it for us? Or maybe they are going to artificially construct human-like being on every new planet? These new humans would need to be different, in accordance to the conditions of the planet. Sounds like a birth of million different alien races, not the human expansion. And then a war, obviously.
While fixating on "scary" centipedes, what you failed to consider is that we may be the replicator colony.
you now have my permission to proceed with the plan. keep me updated.
Update:- Sir! We've successfully conquered earth and now... we are heading for Mars with our leader Melon husk!
seconded
@@playerscience assuming he's a Husky....
@@RenardThatch lmfao 😂😂 husky musk
lol
“Ferb, I know what we’re going to do today.”
Lol
I need it
Fun fact: Once the Dyson Swarm is up, you can actually make another megastructure that will massively help in keeping Humanity alive: a Solar Motor. It takes hydrogen and helium from a star, fuses the helium to make oxygen that it uses as a propellant, and then fires the leftover hydrogen and neutrons back at the star to push it along.
Yes. We can send all those galaxies towards the local group so that they become causually connected to us. Then we'll have billions of times more matter and energy to use for delaying the heat death of our portion of the universe.
@@frjoethesecond Do you think it’s possible to prevent the universe from ending?
@@davgonz9 I don't. Even if you found a way to connect to other universes and harness their energy, you'd still eventually maximise the entropy of all available universes and dimensions. Even if you could travel through time and steal energy from the past, you'd still run out of energy at all points in time.
Harvesting the energy from the fabric of spacetime won't work as it's already at maximum entropy by nature. Anything you try to do to harvest energy from space will cause an equal energy trade. You can take energy from space but space will take it back almost immidiatly. e.g. Hawking radiation.
@@frjoethesecond well that’s depressing lol
@@davgonz9 It is indeed. Sorry about that.
This guide was very useful. After having used a few slower methods in the past, it is much better to use this method and it has increased my universe colonization rates by approximately 10 fold
You do you; we'll do it our way and get to it when we get to it. 🤨
🧐 galactic colonization, that is 🤫
Lol
I used to have that problem, I luckily saw this first.
@@jlwilder8436 who is we ? you and one other person lol no one agree with your slow expansion ideas
@@takokyatto8874 how are you criticizing me and the generic use of "we", but you're doing the exact same thing by saying "noone"?
I don't even know what exactly I was referring to anymore, but it looks like I was just joking back anyway
Re: how humanity takes so long to do anything anyway. 🤷
People who built the tower of babel: do you think this tower might be too ambitious?
Humans in the future: hold our beer for six hours.
The other guy building the tower of babel:
no stávame tu najvyššiu vežu na svete, tak možno áno, ale možno nie.
That was a fun take on the topic, well done :)
Imagine... a collab series where you discuss the ways humanity can preventively defend against all known dangerous solutions to the Fermi Paradox.
Anyway, quality videos here and over where you are ^^
I immediately thought of your channel when I started the video!
Are every sci fi and futurism youtuber on this platform old chums or something? How wholesome
The man himself!
After watching a lot of your videos, I was watching this one for the animations.
Make sure to save the project files for this animation so you can translate it to alien languages so they can see the first steps in the project. As long as the aliens can see photons and have a concept of different wavelengths for colors, this media could be converted to a format they can observe.
But you really want to aliens to know this? Isnt better take everything as fast as possibble and dont say other species how?
@@mariox204 I think the intelligent alien encounters will be scientists trying to share their different understandings of the universe, but there will also be grabby aliens that expand at some fraction of c. The former would be interested in this video, the latter will probably spread anyways eventually, so I personally don't think its a bad idea but that is up to future civilization to determine.
This is assuming they can also hear sound the same way we do...
@@HorsiMusic Subtitles exist, any intelligent life form capable enough to make contact with us must have the concept of communication and by extension language
@@mariox204we’ll release it after we take over the universe first
This tutorial was extremely helpful to me. I took entire universe using this!
lol
I'M GONNA TAKE IT FIRST
Honestly the only real problem about this is that the self replication aspect may turn around into a “grey ooze” scenario where the probes would end up circling back to our galaxy and consume all star systems including ours
Edit: i've been getting comments for months now and i want to clarify another issue with these you couldn't really solve, we cannot define life whenever we only have one example. This is an issue because these drones may destroy alien life that it cannot recognize simply by mining or terraforming a planet and cannot be solved because we cannot account for things we dont know.
You are forgetting mutations. The instructions will suffer entropy overtime and inevitably lead to many, many destructive self replicating probes. In the end, probes that never stop self-replicating under any conditions, and are extremely fast and efficient will be those that survive and dominate everywhere. This design is an existential threat to any civilization that produces it and actually ALL otherlife forms in the universe because it is inevitably self-destructive. Actually it's very likely that on this scale your network of machines will evolve parasite machines that feed off the dyson swarms to release themselves as well...
You’d need some way to make it so the new civilizations wouldn’t spread to their source. You could have them communicate and check if another species is there but that might take too long. So you could encode them with not wanting or be able to spread back to where they came from, like some kind of giant dark area in space with no reason to spread there.
@@everonimo135 that does not solve the mutation problem, though it does solve the issue of "grey ooze" if the system is somehow impervious to entropy.
You could simply bake a kill switch into the probes. If they encounter a certain radio wavelength it will neutralise them and cease their functionality. You could even make it so that this happens with any artificial radio signal, so as to prevent accidentally starting an interstallar war with your autonomous probes.
@@Slaking_ still gets a mutation that makes that feature not work and then rapidly
(cosmic timescale wise) covers everything in your bugged machines
This is really great. The whole production quality has improved so much, while keeping the charm of the original animations. Congrats to the team for pulling this off!
This was a really effective tutorial! Works like a charm. Thanks for the help and please continue making these tutorials!
But Mercury is still there
@@GOD-343 Yes, because I used a dwarf planet for our own solar system. Pluto.
yea dude , i use it on different univese and now i capture the galaxy beyond 4 dimention
@@Minhjago Cool, btw it's Dimension.
@@SapphireKR thx
It makes me so happy to see these ideas be given the care and production value they deserve!
Amazing DIY I'm looking forward to do it myself
DIY...? 💀
@@Cappuccino_Rabbit 💀💀💀💀
@@achillachill5520 my man here about to single handlely take over the universe
This animation is better and higher quality than Cartoon Network's. It's been less than five minutes and you've already earned my subscription with all notifications turned on. Simply incredible.
I love how now we have a way to take over literally the entire universe and it’s available to basically everyone.
Cutting mercury in half is very accessible. imma do it next weekend
@@alexh2797 yes
99% of Earth's politicians will never get their heads out of their asses long enough to even begin planning such a project, but it's a nice idea.
@@shadesilverwing0 They don't need to. It's scientists and engineers who plan these things, not politicans. Politicians just have to sign off on it.
@@harryhall4001scientists and engineers don't pool manpower like that without some organizing force behind us. We can't. We have to eat, regrettably. The only way to put it together would be with the support of international governments or enormous private investment. If there's private investment involved, though, it will get bogged down with whatever those bean counters think they can get out of the venture, and we will be intergalactic embarrassments as we carve logos and advertisements into every planet in the universe. That leaves governments, and that means we are not going to get this done.
If I learned anything from playing Universal Paperclips is you have to also watch out for deviation amongst the probes or you'll end up creating your own enemies. Although I suppose after enough time that would happen amongst humans themselves since they would be too far from each other and become alien to each other.
Maybe we are the expansion project of another civilization
@@agustinespinoza764 "There are those who believe that life here, began...out there."
Watch out for it? It's a good thing, competition promotes evolution of systems. In order for something to be better, there must be something else to compare it to. This would exponentially grow the efficiency of the colonizers.
The whole reason the technology of European human cultures became so much more advanced than the rest is because of the crowded imperial space. Europe's political divisions and wars since the end of the Pax Romana accelerated technology.
This can be seen in the fact that China was the first to invent guns but could only advance them during civil wars. (As slow to fire early guns were useless against China's long time enemy, the fast central asian horsemen.)
The Eastern titan was simply too big and too centralized to achieve what the West did with it's technology.
(It was perfectly culturally adapted to fending off central asian hordes with it's massive size and rigidly controlled government, but could not compete with advancing Western tech that allowed global exploration, subjugation, and was subject to competition/arms races between multiple expanding global empires.)
@@fandomguy8025 Competition does breed progress, but that usually (if not always) comes at the expense of the other party or parties like you said. This only works when you can know what the other party is doing. On the galactic scale that isn't really possible. It's hard to compete with someone when you don't even know what they're doing, and by time you do it's probably too late.
So I really don't think creating potential existential threats for the sake of "competition" is a good thing... Unless you want to replicate evolution is space and don't mind potentially having all local life go extinct, replaced with something that's artificially "better".
There will always be people who want to progress for the sake of progress, so lets try and keep our "competitor" to a minimum. We already can barely handle earth scale ones let alone planetary and larger.
@@Pheonix1328 The fact that you can't know what the other party is doing is simply a form of variation(diversity), with variation comes selection, that's how evolution works.
Yes, evolution is what I'm talking about. There's nothing artificial about it. Fighting for survival is how life grows. Even when that growth is prosocial, there must be another group to compete against.
Lack of such is why earth remains divided, with recent unity only an illusion caused by temporary war exhaustion which is now clearly running out.
Ideals of progress only dominate in competative environments, like genes, cultures (memes) also face environmental pressures.
Be it in warfare or in market competition between firms (companies.)
Meanwhile, in uncompetative environments, ideals of tradition tend to prevail, like China, which had little interest in purchasing Western innovations from traders and was slow to implement reforms before they ended up subsumed. Same with Korea.
Japan, however, which had been broken up into feuding feudal lands for ages, safe from the centralizing effects of Central Asian horsemen, understood the significance of western innovations much faster and took a different path.
As a Kurzgesagt-level video this is great, showing interesting potential technology. As an actual plan to space colonization it glosses over a lot of important stuff.
One of the problems NASA faced when designing self-replicating factories, is that a more complex system can do more, but is much harder to make. This is the complexity equivalence of the rocket equation. A microchip is light and can make the system more flexible, but making it requires very heavy and complex machines. You can make a self-assembling robot, if you provide it with all the needed parts, but having a system which mines, refines, manufactures, builds and tests more of itself is another thing entirely. This is why we haven't really made a real self-replicating machine you can drop on the Moon or Mercury. Making a system which can manufacture a Dyson Swarm and launch interstellar probes would be even more complex, and thus heavier.
The "nature does it, so can we" is also not really applicable. An acorn depends on finding very specific conditions for temperature, light, nutrients, humidity, etc. This is the reasons humans have less DNA than frogs - our embryos develop in protected, temperature-controlled environment. A virus depends on even more specific ones - it needs a living cell to replicate, effectively tricking the cell into making more viruses. A system which can replicate itself on the harsh surface on the Moon/Mercury would be on the other side of the spectrum, so much larger.
And finally - if we have a probe that lands on a planet it needs to make a lot more than the probe. It needs to make the entire technological chain, decision-making, launch system, dyson swarm and so on. Even then - self-replicating machines are not Human Civilization. That's more likely to send probes back to our system and use our cities as material for self-replicating drones. We would need it to prepare its system for humans, and to detect when there already are humans so it can deactivate. And we need a way to deactivate them easily and remotely in case the safeguards fail.
This is all a very interesting topic of discussion with a lot of nuance, but sadly it can't be contained in a 20 minute youtube video or a comment.
It makes for an awesome sci-fi idea, though. The Expanse being perhaps the most famous user.
This is certainly a high-quality comment. I wish we as humans had the highest level of integrated capacity we can reckon, at all times, and as individuals who are collectively striving for the objective and creative subjective good, and sometimes we ARE a LITTLE BIT like that but wouldn't it be so nice if we were all biological superempathic-superintelligent creative hyperturboextremogenuii?
Nope. There's no limitation that says the replicators are a single species, type or caste. In order to build microchips, the swarm would just build a microchip factory. Or a factory for whatever else is needed, then assemble them together. There's no need to blindly follow the biological analogy. And within organisms, there are plenty of parts or molecules that are created at one place and transported to and used by another. Microchips would make for a tiny amount of the total mass, so there's not really a problem. All of this depends on a massive amount of planning intelligence, of course.
@@Andreas-gh6is Within organisms, the molecules are not created out of nothing. All biological organisms, and machines, work in only in specific conditions - pressure, temperature, access to specific input materials. If you want the organism or machine to be more robust, and work in a greater range of temperatures, for example, you need to make them heavier, or make them do less, or otherwise make a compromise. My issue is that the video talks about miniaturizing self-replicating agents and gives viruses as examples - viruses don't build microchips. You need something a lot bigger.
As for the "just build a microchip factory" - this handwaves the problem away. Building a microchip factory here and now is a Billion dollar investment requiring many years and people, depending on a very long chain of subcontractors. It is not something that you build from a replicator the weight of a virus. Or an acorn. It doesn't matter what the mass of the microchip is - unless you suggest bringing all the microchips you will ever need with the replicator - which would make the replicator a lot heavier and remove its ability to fully replicate.
And this is not even going into the rabit hole of detecting resources you need, prospecting, and digging them out - before you get the resources you need. This means you need to carry them with you - a lot of them, so you can jumpstart the entire self-replicating process.
Maybe, in some centuries, we will get the technologies to make a universal self-replicator. Getting there is not an "easy step" and you can't handwave the complexity away.
Feel free to prove me wrong and build such a replicator in your back yard, but until then this is strictly science-fiction
There's one problem with this. Data gets corrupted. Whether through cosmic radiation or through the decay of particles things change, and if you take these tiny changes and replicate them billions of times, you're going to run into a problem. If we're lucky the problem will be that our probes stop working after a certain number of replications. If we're unlucky our probes will work too well and start disassembling things they shouldn't. Things like Earth. If we're reaaallly unlucky the probes could undergo evolution to the point where we end up with an entirely separate group of grabby aliens created by us, and not under our control.
You can avoid this with sufficient redundancy and error-checking - DNA uses a single level of redundancy and a motley crew of error-checking and correcting molecules, each layer of redundancy makes it exponentially harder for a mutation to occur and go uncorrected (as you need n things to be damaged, so your chance of permanent mutation looks like p^n), while conveniently only increasing your data-storage mass linearly.
You can also have probes in the same general destination batch error-check each other before they start firing off their next generation (even have them do a pseudo-SETI to find other members of their batch around nearby stars to get a wide sample)
Now, the chances are somewhat correlated (as given that, say, a high-energy photon flipped a bit, it's perhaps more likely that you passed through a brighter area and thus it's more likely that some other bits were flipped), so it will be somewhat worse than that. On the other hand, that's why data-storage methods like isotope encoding are so good - it's a lot harder to move around atoms in a crystal than it is to damage DNA or flip an electronically-stored bit, and for a nucleon-altering reaction, you really only have to worry about, like, hitting an electron just wrong, which would be incredibly hard with even a drop of shielding (or even a mild magnetic field).
Also, if one is willing to go a bit further out on a limb of speculation, we could be sending entire communities of (uploaded) people in the probes, even if a bunch of people get some damage, a community of sapients can recognize that something is wrong and take steps to fix everything up before starting the next wave.
All Tomorrows moment
the drones have gained sentience and sapience and are now a new species
if you think about it, organisms that can replicate, but can get little mutations, where only the ones with better mutations survive, these probes are literally going to undergo natural selection like any other organic life, so in some strange way, we might see them come back as an even more optimized version of themselves
What you are saying makes no sense because you can check the data for corruptions extremely well and extremely easy you are talking without thinking.
I cannot properly describe how much I love these videos. Humanity is amazing.
You do realize that this is just theoretical and first we have to not nuc ourselves, and then we have to learn to cooperate, and then maybe humanity will be amazing!!!!??????
@pyropulse what the fuck? There's not a single thing in this video that says that, the moto for the first Dyson swarm is literally just automation, which humanity can already do
@pyropulse typical anarcho-monarchist
@pyropulse firstly, I wasnt even talking about A.I, the fuck are you on about?
Secondly, I don't think tasks like these are simple and easy, I was only stating that it was possible, even the video itself states that this would probably take a lot of time, resources, and innovation to be possible, I only think it's possible because it theoretically is
So in conclusion, fuck you
And have a great day
Fellow human, I perceive. I am, too, a human. Good to know you.
Thanks for the tutorial, didn’t realize that I should’ve used self-replicating probes. I found out the hard way that the human body doesn’t really like the kind of acceleration that a coil gun has.
These videos are leagues ahead of anything else in this field on RUclips! So interesting, entertaining and brilliantly produced! Huge congrats to the production team and long live the eternal empire of us grabby humans!
Eh kurtzgezast is kinda close
Check out melodysheep
Check out Isaac Arthur.
Kurzgesagt is much much better.
@@LettuceGayming I was going to say the same
Excellent video! Ever since I first learned about things like Niven's Ringworld, and Dyson spheres, I love thinking about crazy huge scale projects like this.
The concept of sending a single seed off alone to begin an exponentially growing empire is actually the basis of the games in the Total Annihilation/Supreme Commander/Planetary Annihilation RTS series. You start with a single commander unit sent to a planet your faction wants to conquer. Then that commander uses its built in engineering equipment to begin harvesting resources on site, construct more fabrication units and structures, and finally build an army of automated military units to take over the planet.
And, once that world is under your control, you can send your commander off to do it all again on the next planet. Thus, you have a never ending galactic scale war. Fun!
I familiar with such RTS since i play Beyond All Reason open-source remake of Total Annihilation. Also i can remember another example of game with exponential economy grow: stellaris.
Mindustry too
Random neolithic alien enjoying morning rock: Why half planet gone?
AMAZING VIDEO! Congrats guys! We had great fun - such a smooth and lovely collaboration ♥
aaa its epic mountain again ofc, srsly the best soundtracks
I love your music :3
imagine 3 way collab, you guys, kurzgesagt and the people who made this video... a man can only dream
@@gooberone but a man CAN DREAM.
This channel is almost kurzgesagt levels of awesome, how the hell is out not all over the internet 😁
We can say we were fans before it was cool
Thank you for the tips. I’m considering taking over the Andromeda Galaxy, which is my favorite. I’m probably going to do it sometime in the future
Hell nah, I'll take first, wanna an race?
U should upload a vid on that
I've been thinking about consuming the Sombrero Galaxy! I'll be busy for at least the next couple thousand years, though... TMT I'm gonna have to waaaaait!
I LOVE the quality of these videos, but even more than the quality, the ideas they are working on. I know it's not easy to push the limits of science and share really ambitious ideas, but you guys are still doing it, and I really appreciate it.
By the way, the Longtermism video you did a while ago led me to read William MacAskill's book, "What We Owe the Future", and this book inspired me a lot at a bad time, so thanks for that too :)
@pyropulse but really, who cares? if it’s plausible, it’s possible, get over it because it’s gonna happen soon enough if possible
@pyropulse if, on average, the self-replicator produces 1.001 clones before destruction, you are entirely incorrect. While it would be optimal if it were to heal itself, it is not a "need" as you put it. The only real flaws I see in this are 1; maintaining stable temperatures for robotic operation on mercury and dealing with the "useless" mass, 2: expecting all systems to have a mercury-like planet, and 3; achieving relativistic speeds using railguns/railcannons/whatever you wanna call it. It would have to be of insane length, as well as the precision it would take to accelerate a projectile consistently. "A calculation shows that the electron is traveling at about 2,200 kilometers per second. That's less than 1% of the speed of light, but it's fast enough to get it around the Earth in just over 18 seconds"
But wait!
Veratasium, you see, knows how electricity works. It's not actually about the movement of electrons; this is why you hear a lot about magnetism, electric fields, and electricity in one. Because electricity is not the movement of electrons; it's CAUSED by the movement of electrons; as we know it, electricity is an electric FIELD which does, in fact, move at the speed of light.
Wikipedia (I know, not the best source, but good enough in most cases)
"The electric field starts at the conductor and propagates through space at the velocity of light (which depends on the material it is traveling through)."
So the railcannon is not feasible for 50% of c, let's say. Let's say you can get to 0.01c (1%)... alpha Centauri would only take 436 years; the calculation is quite simple. You're an expert on this topic, you wouldn't need me to explain, right? After all, "anyone" who thinks this is possible is "stupid", my slightly more well-informed logic must be simple to you, yes?
I don't really have a solution to the other two issues, but I'm a kid, I have no delusions that I don't have gaps in my knowledge.
No point? why does anyone do anything? sheer, absolute boredom!
In all seriousness. If you're mature, you recognize, while there is beauty in this world, it's a pretty bad shithole. I won't propagate the continued existence myself, but, I'll die happy if I could make existence for everyone else a little better. This is, by FAR one of the most logical and feasible "sci fi" realities I've ever seen. It doesn't pretend like it all has to be done in a couple hundred years; that's because it can't and won't be. Now, as for cooperation from all the beaurocrats and politicians? Who knows, I certainly don't, and won't pretend like I really care.
-A 17yo with a passion for engineering and science.
I subbed to this channel like a year ago and it STILL hasn't reached 100K yet? I think RUclips is broken. Your content is too high quality for you guys to still be less than 100K
Because it’s totally ripping of the style and process of another channel - just with a more monotonous narrator.
Also the writing is less engaging.
@@lemonz1769 its still high quality regardless. I know they do similar stuff to other channels too but doesnt mean it isnt good. They still animate stuff and research.
Too infrequent uploads most likely
@@lemonz1769 Which channel?
As a person who has everything required to deconstruct half a Mercury lying around and can make a dyson sphere in 40 years at any time I wish, this proved to be a very helpful tutorial, thanks for teaching me how to make this entire dimension to bow down before me and praise me as their one true leader and GOD, you guys rock :D
WOAHHH!! THE NEW ANIMATIONS ARE INSANE!!!
This sounds nice in theory but practically speaking no CIV would expand like this. The colonies you are creating are basically going to be at best completely disconnected from yourself and thus worthless, or rivals to your own local expansion. Your colonies have to be in communication range so you can govern over them.
Could be a good safety net for those worried about the extinction of the human race. Any hostile aliens would have a hard time rooting out the human infestations across the galaxy. Sure we may never interact with them, but in some way our species lives on
Define "communication" we are fully capable of communicating at distances of atleast within our own galaxy, other galaxy's would probably have significant time lag.
@@staceyb1873 100,000 years to send a msg and another 100,000 years to get a reply? I wouldn't consider that as fully capable. Even the closest star to earth is 4.2 years away for a msg, and 8.4 total turn around time for a reply. That's just way too long to reasonably manage an empire. In 8 years a coop could've already happend and the planet could've been captured by rebels, an army and space fleet created and they could be on their way to attack you.
Keep in mind that civilization is broadly defined here, so the civilization isn’t implicitly assumed to consist of humans or some other biological life form. The reason I point this out is because humans and other biological lifeforms have limits that various types of non biological information processors won’t. It would be very hard for humans to cohere over great timescales, that I agree with. Human language is spoken at about 40 bits per second, the fastest mental calculators can at most process 60-80 bits per second. We have a small working memory.
Don’t confuse latency with bandwidth. If you are going to be communicating over timescales of millions of years, then the corresponding messages must scale up to a similar degree or even more. Your messages must also be coherent over such long timescales. Humans simply don’t have that level of intelligence and memory to do that. It isn’t a priori impossible though. Extremely compact information storage mechanism and extremely fast processors aren’t a problem. Large civilizations would have the energy required to do that.
As for the problem of rebellions, basically error correction mechanisms can be made reliable enough that no mutation occurs. Don’t think about regular humans, but copies of superintelligent AI’s, they’re not like us. Also, a billion light years away is far, far away from being basically ‘completely disconnected’. It is not near the radius of the observable universe. It is very advantageous to colonize such large swathes of volume. This is because you have a limited amount of matter, and the universe is expanding, so you need to contract and compress this matter into a smaller volume to limit communication costs and stave off the expansion of the universe.. The more matter you have, the more things you can do with that energy. (There is also the risk of gravitational collapse, so there’s a balance to be struck)
Basically my point is that you need to stop interpreting things with an analogy to human society and capabilities. Information processors differ in the amount of memory they have, their speed, their ability to cohere large amounts of information. There is no mathematical theorem that says that this is impossible beyond 10^30 processing cycles or whatever. It is just a difference in scale. It might be a posteriori impossible due to the physical facts of our universe such as limits to how much energy can be extracted, or limits as to what materials are constructible, but it isn’t a priori impossible. As if human levels of information processing turned out to reach a mathematical limit of all algorithms.
Also not really discussed is just what kind of expansion would it be? Sending mechanical probes everywhere? What is the point? Or is the assumption of "all natural processes can be mimicked with technology" including the creation of some sort of homunculus from start dust?
In the future, if humanity really take over the universe, this video will become the greatest history thing in the human universe civilization
I do want to ask if you’d given any thought to their slight critique of the Hanson model at the end of the paper? Their points about “silent” colonization at the end seem pretty compelling. Both that and their idea about sentinel police probes sent out to stop colonization by different groups from their home culture sound like decent explanations for why we see no evidence for 'grabby' colonization.
Space is vast. Why would we want more of it somewhere else, except to escape from some disaster? Is one star not enough? What are we doing with that energy? It is entirely possible that the direction of progress assumed by Kardashev is sheer lunacy, and if we are destined for galactic dominance, it will be via efficiency, miniaturization, and better society. A few trillion people living around a single star might as well be invisible to our telescopes, particularly if they transmit information using methods we have no means of intercepting. They wouldn't even have to hide on purpose. Just by not making a huge mess or trying to grab every inch of territory and eat it like a bunch of locusts, they would be camouflaged by the noisier, larger Universe.
sentinels alerted; level 3 (for any no man's sky players
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If memory serves, Philip K. Dick proposed something roughly similar to this on a much smaller scale in his short story "Second Variety" in the sense that one side in a war created autonomous and self-replicating machines to defeat their opponents. Unfortunately, the story doesn't end well for either side.
They’re called Vonn Neumann probes
I like his short story about the AI being sent to fight while humanity hides underground, and the AI goes on to merely pretend to fight, because it considers the war kinda dumb.
@@TeamKatastrophe I believe you're thinking of "The Defenders."
Major issue, such probes would be subject to mutations (changes in code through bitflips) and therefore natural selection and could end up wiping us out or, for instance, deciding that they should produce an unspecified (endless) amount of paperclips, among other issues. Plus the number of galaxies that are reachable might be two, milky way and andromeda thats on a crash course with us, because the expansion of the universe doesnt seem to be stopping. Constructing a dyson swarm is possible though.
We can reach billions of galaxies at speeds below c. Our local group is still causally connected to 32bly of diameter.
There are many things that could go wrong with a plan like this.
Replicating and recycling would be a big one or propulsion since the probes probably had to move to other star systems in search of a usable planet to build the Dyson sphere and another probe.
Not to mention the A. I. needed to prepare for all possible scenarios like system failures, impacts, low energy, no usable planet in reach, solar storms or other unexpected problems.
Every video this channel makes is phenomenal! I think you do a good job summarizing complex ideas while still respecting the intelligence of your viewers.
I love your profile picture
Thanks, you too!
I'm glad to see such a positive vision for humanity's future. Thank you.
"Relatively easy steps"
Step 1: Disassemble mercury
I already have 2 issues with this step. It isn't unreasonable to assume that redistributing half of the mass of Mercury could possibly have an effect on the movement of the other planets. Also, depending on how the swarm is situated, there will now be less sunlight reaching the Earth which could cause a permanent ice age if the difference is significant enough.
@@jakephelps4924 It wouldn't be hard to leave a gap in the swarm to make sure light reaches Earth.
@@RazorbackPT its entirely possible that this swarm won't even be that dense but those details weren't explained in this video in a satisfactory manner
@@jakephelps4924 Although not mentioned, No. A dyson swarm simply isn’t dense enough to block out anywhere near enough sunlight to cause an ice age. Secondly, it is unreasonable to assume half the mass of mercury would affect other planets, and even if it did, I remind you that it’s in almost the exact same orbit as the rest of mercury. At a cosmic level, it just doesn’t matter.
@@tfan2222 being in the same orbit and being in the same spot aren't the same thing. It's also not unreasonable to question how losing half of its mass might affect the orbit of Mercury. If we aren't careful we can easily send Mercury out of its orbit and create an entirely different problem. Likely the big brains behind the project would have considered and accounted for all of the obvious ways this could go wrong and I'm just wasting my time with useless speculations
Ah perfect, a universal guide for conquering multiverses.
Just what I needed to give for Xmas for those hard to gift.
Thank you so much for the tutorial! it was hard, but after a long time i was able to do it!
A Rational Animations *and* Kurzgesagt in the same hour? Did Christmas come early?
I love to keep hearing Robert Mile's voice. Hopefully some of his AI research is also put to good use here. Oh, and the philosophy behind your videos is just right for me !
One day this video will be used by future humans in their history project
I’ve heard that there was a cut scene from the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey where the Monolith was one of many traveling through the galaxy doing exactly this. 2010: The Year We Make Contact actually explores this concept where you can see the Monolith creating many smaller versions that “stellar-form” Jupiter into a small star.
“All these worlds are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landing there. Use them together. Use them in peace.”
- HAL-9000, relaying a message from the Monolith
I want to read a scifi book based around this idea so bad. I've been thinking about this kind of thing since I watched the kurtsgazat video on Dyson spheres a while ago and there. are so many cool things that could happen. ex: an alien race that has also gotten grabby notices our competing robots and joins us or fights us, or our drones find inhabited solar systems of other alien races that aren't as advanced as us and we get to be the cool super-advanced aliens from outer space who come down from the sky to meet them, or the robots could become sentient at some point and the story could be told from their prospective building the new worlds and waiting excitedly for the humans to come populate them. so many possibilities.
why dont you ask chatGPT to write it for you, in the name of futuristic technology
Dennis E. Taylor's Bobiverse series is what you're probably after (the audiobooks are amazing too).
@@gmatics This. Bobiverse got me into reading books again. Basically, sentient self-replicating robots (whose minds are uploaded from a guy named Bob) begin to colonize our closest neighboring star systems while fighting off aliens and other self-replicating robots... I got the first 2 books on audible for free. Narrator is good. Also available in book form. You should read them!! DO IT!!!!1!11 Polish book covers are way too good also.
Maybe the Three Body Problem? But it doesn’t start off very sci-fi at first .
@@gmatics thanks for the recommendation I’ll check It out
Alien Civilization Starting Probes already came here. Videos like these demonstrate that we are ahead of schedule and they are happy with our progress.
I want this channel to blow up so badly, its so high quality and the videos are all great.
Me too!
This was the same thing I said about kurzgesagt like when it has only 100k subs.
Right now it has 19 million subs.
It’s good to see humanity finally learning!
Sadly the news tell me otherwise every day.
I was able to take over around 6 universes with this strategy, 10/10 would reccomend
The animation quality is outstanding in this one! Good work!
Rational Animation: “Let’s take over the Universe!”
Me: *cracks beer* “Lemme finish this first.”
3:57 maybe you should give them magnetic fields for repulsion. It could maybe work longer but the problem with that idea is that it could easily misalign mirrors.
10/10 tutorial, this method works like a charm the steps are easy enough for me to take over galaxies! thank you!
Criminally underrated and underviewed channel.
Wow! Super easy! Im already done! Thanks!
Great tutorial! Very easy to follow steps and I can confirm I took over the universe.
Instructions unclear, took over ink-based universe with some friends, now going by name of "Henry", will keep you updated
@@therealchaosguy Stay in the shadows, and also beware of them. And most important of all... Beware of the Ink Demon.
@ayden I don't know someone started it and I thought it was funny.
My personal favourite solution to the Fermi Paradox is one where all the aliens are just as braindead as humans are. Humanity is the only sapient species we know of, so it makes more sense to base our assumptions of aliens off of what we know about ourselves rather than wildly speculating. What this results in is a universe where all aliens independently invent capitalism and die as a result, usually through extreme climate change.
I'm replying to your planning application for the Dyson swarm.
The consultation of the residents highlighted the following fundamental issues:
- the dismantling of Mercury would generate a substantially increased level of traffic and noise
- the aesthetic of the swarm would not be in keeping with the character of the inner solar system
- the position of the mirrors would obstruct the view of the beautiful void beyond the star at the centre of the solar system
For such reasons the application is rejected.
Your animation quality is improving, the only thing missing is audio quality but that also has a charm to it
Great video. I love the animations too. Only if more people understood these concepts, then we might advance humanity beyond our little star. Definitely subscribing!
Bruh, the U.D.F. has literally been waiting a thousand years for that. They want to admit the original earth to the Universe Of Peace organization or whatnot. Bunch of boring paperwork for me...
As a child, I had an idea for a story in which robots travel the planets and transform all of their matter, including living beings, into five-star hotels for the arrival of a civilization that has extinct long ago. AND HERE IT IS
step one - unify humanity.
"I believe i found the fermi limiter"
Its crazy how we are in the middle of something this big its so powerful
I love the phrase “let’s disassemble mercury”
I love this channel. The subjects are different and the outlook quite positive I love the fact that this video out does Isaac Arthur in it level of optimistic. I have sent this link to quite a few people and but it as a link on some of my favourite channels.
My two questions are this:
Would the disassembly of Mercury have a major effect on the orbit of the planets in our solar system?
And would building a Dyson Swarm prevent necessary sunlight, or sufficient quantities of sunlight, from reaching our planet?
Presumably whoever's in charge of the swarm would arrange it so that Earth's view of the Sun is either not obstructed, or that an equivalent amount of energy is reflected onto the Earth somehow
You don't need any onboard thrust at all to navigate your solar captors. Just a reaction wheel, since every mirror is also a solar sail. Any time you need to make a course correction, just tilt your mirror and be pushed a different direction, either into your orbit to rise, or against it to drop, or side to side to adjust the orbit itself, before acquiring your target again.
Wow, this was incredible! Amazing production! I just finished a book by Stephen Baxter, where one of the plot lines was an alien species dismantling Mercury for similar purposes, but he definitely didn't get into this level of explanation!
The quality of these videos really deserve more than 20k views. And this channel is way too underrated. Only 87k subs with this much detailed animations.
Such a useful tutorial! I already took over my first galaxy.
Honestly this reminds me that no matter what time period I die in I'll always be missing out on something
True, but no matter what time period you live in, you'll always have witnessed or participated in something that every other time period will have missed.
This is so underated,
This content is just so GREAT!
This narrator guy sounds like a smart cookie! He should make a math video with Numberphile or computer science related stuff with computerphile!
so if we notice dyson sphere in another galaxy, it means our galaxy is already infected?
If we notice another Dyson sphere out there, it means we are *their* probe.
Ya were doom if we see someone elses dyson sphere
If we are close enough to find out they are mirrors instead of random rocks or crystals, then we should keep very quite indeed.
I love the animation improvement. This video looks so clean and smooth
Amazing video-but I can’t help but wonder if this would cause an accidental cosmic genocide.
What if the probes start raiding planets with alien life, or worse, planets that already have civilizations of their own? Even if safeguards were included, there’s no way they could be perfect-something might fall through the gap.
Could be a decent twist in a novel at least, but still a horrifying concept
This was really well done! Loved the animation and music and everything!
This channel's visuals never fail to amaze me
thanks for the tutorial, it will be of use very soon.
You'll see.
I've got serious concerns with "everything can be automated" (given rhe failures of AI in the real world) and the potential dangers to intelligent life that a poorly designed Von Neumann fleet could pose.
Ai is constantly improving. It isn't static. People though televisions were bad and would never get better but now they're a major focus in the modern world.
Idk how but you made it feel so simple that now I'm wondering why haven't we done it yet.
Probably because we are to busy making advanced weapons to kill one another while also trying not to kill one another at the same time.
Because we don't have the technology to do this; heck, the basic requirement is a dyson swarm and we still haven't been able to mine an asteroid, we cannot do this now but maybe in the future.
@@darklex5150we have the tech to mine asteroids but politics get in the way
The self replicating probes was one of my favorite episodes of the Justice League cartoon series
If all biological structures could be replicated artificially then how do we know we are not artificial drones designed to help another being take over the galaxy? Were we the probes all along?
Maybe
thanks for the tutorial, this works really well!
I have to imagine at this point, people will be making mock fantasy worlds to spectate as they develop, scary but kind of neat
I love this channel so much, its amazing.
This is so cool to think about.
The Ancients in Stargate could done this easily. They built seed ships that would travel at FTL in a fleet that would collect resources and build Stargates (which make a wormhole to other gates if you are not a fan) on planets that may have resources for a future expedition across the universe. If they had instead built ships that would build a Dyson Swarm and a ship construction yard to build seed ships and more construction ships. The Ancients existed for millions of years and could of had at least a supercluster wide network of Stargates powered by Dyson Swarms instead of a couple galaxies and some partial galaxies of outdated short range Stargates. I'm sure that a Dyson Swarm could power Stargate connections from across the universe, Bussard collectors scooping from stars was nearly able to do so.
I've been looking for a tutorial like this!
Jokes aside, this is an amazing video
More tutorials for megalomaniacs please.
Ty. now nothing can stop my limitless ambitions
a "rigid Dyson sphere" was never even a thing. a Dyson sphere IS a Dyson swarm. that was his original idea. it was always supposed to be a bunch of independent satellites
Thank you for the tutorial. This will be incredibly helpful.
I’d argue an alternative modification to the launch system where the entire local structure pauses or greatly reduces production and enters a “launch phase” where the Dyson Swarm redirects a majority of its outbound energy into the solar sails of the probes. The problem of this is, it reduces in efficiency the more probes are launched in a batch at a time. This efficiency comes back over time as the distance from the parent swarm, and subsequent acceleration, increases.
One issue I can imagine with a dyson swarm is that each part of the swarm is functionally a solar sail. Wouldn't this ruin the swarm over time?
You just need 6 hours of solar energy anyway
you can make it so the solar pressure balances out over time
You could use some of that energy to push back against the solar winds.
WHAT.A.VIDEO.WAS.THAT!!! totally breathtaking everything!!! animations, plot, the splendor of the ideas... this video was more than perfect.
It's so nice to see the word "exponentially" used correctly.
As long as shibes take over the universe before the cats, we'll be fine.