Missing Titanic submersible 'less sophisticated,' David Pogue recalls | USA TODAY
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2023
- CBS News Sunday Morning correspondent David Pogue recalls his trip inside the now-missing OceanGate submersible.
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As U.S. and Canadian crews continued to search Wednesday for a missing submersible that may have only a day's supply of oxygen left, more information was emerging about experts' attempts to warn the company that owns the underwater vessel about the perils of its operations.
The 22-foot submersible was carrying five people in a dive to the wreckage site of the Titanic when it lost contact with a support ship Sunday. Among those aboard are a British adventurer, two members of a Pakistani business family, a Titanic expert and the CEO of OceanGate, the privately owned, Washington-based company that operates the vessel.
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‘There are 18 bolts but they only do up 17…’. So reassuring!
Bruh, I be nervous when a bolts missing on bunk beds “I’ll sleep on the floor for that ish fall on me?” The manual said 98 bolts, I count 97 “I ain’t effin wit it” no sir
Not to mention NASA has come out and said they only consulted on it and university of Washington said they had NOTHING to do with it, at all!
@@CKing-388 The CEO said he only hired interns as “engineers” the “consulting” was for the grants. Cheaper labor and less likely to say no to his dumb plans. “Consulting” was Probably a requirement for pretending to do research. Then Calling it “adventure travel” with paying customers. And it hasn’t been approved for that because he mislabeled it’s purpose to fly under the radar. While getting money from scientific grants. Illegal AF. Their families are poor now. Probably a lot of poor business partners will come from this too.
Space exploration is risky,but has the possibility to provide benefits to all mankind.sightseeing tours for rich billionaires to gawp at the scene of a maritime disaster is,well,make your own judgement on that one..
Isn't this guy who said the titan was designed by NASA? NASA recently said it had nothing to do with it. Now he's saying they had twice daily briefing on health and safety...
look like a propane tank with a washing machine window
that's what it is
It does!!!😂😂😂😂😢
In a world of false promises, Oceangate offered, and delivered, the ultimate Titanic experience
Yes monetizing tragedy :(
I wish u were on dat sub
the ultimate Titanic experience - Oh! YES! Biking, diving, skydiving, bridge jumping ultimates are soooooo owesome!
@@luisfernando5998 LOLOLOLOL
@@luisfernando5998 unfortunately for you, I also have a wish.
Why would you be promoting Oceangates ‘safety culture’ when one of their directors was fired for criticising their very lax safety protocols?
This was his experience...
One simple explanation, he signed a waiver and is bound by the terms and conditions of that waiver.
No rescue strategy, no way to open it, no tracking, poor comms, limited O2, limited space, no food, no oversight, filthy rich tourists...yeah, what could possibly go wrong?
If it is on the surface and the hull is just carbon fibre couldn't you scrap a hole through the carbon for air. A screwdriver vs epoxy and carbon, the screw driver will surely win.
in fairness, they don't want to open it down there. but what they do want to do is guess who is the heaviest breather and conserve his oxygen without consent.
It almost seems like this submersible was built by Clarkson, Hammond and May ...
It is pure insanity to take an experimental sub to a depth of 13,000 ft where the pressure is 3 tons per square inch.
its not experimental. its the set of the new Hunger Games movie, called the Oxygen Games.
The Titanic is a Grave, not a tourist attraction. And now she has claimed 5 more. I am a diver, and I am 99.9% sure that Titan imploded. God bless them. it was painless. My deepest sympathy to the families
We all knew what happened
The way he talks about it resurfacing and emphasizes the probability that wouldn't happen, makes you truly understand the gravity of the situation.
What strikes me is, if it did miraculously surface there is no vent or hatch to let air in nor to escape. So, the passengers could still die waiting for rescue. So stupid. 😡
@@stephaniecostello2262if there was a hatch, it’d end up leaking at the bottom of the ocean😂😂 plus they are mainly only openable from the outside so clearly either way they’d have to sit in there and starve of oxygen, it’s deserved for going down in a carbon fibre tube made with plastic pipes from a hardware store
@@stephaniecostello2262agreed! And tbh they probably have a better chance finding the vessel under water than looking on the surface amongst rough waters
@@stephaniecostello2262 It could be snagged on the Titanic wreckage itself, so it can't resurface. Or it imploded, or it's above water, or something attacked it (human or unknown).
@@adam2Ocan somebody check if they are stuck on the titanic? Does humanity have ability to go down and check? Wtf are they waiting for, thet wanted to go @ point X, check point X!
Anyone else thinking what I am thinking. It's like the experience of the Titanic itself. The crew didn't take into consideration the life boats that were needed, and this crew didn't think about what the hell do you do if you lose communication? Sometimes we don't learn and greed and money conquer over common sense. Hope they find this sub soon.
This sounds like a company who would claim that their sub is unsinkable…
@@timonsolus Stupidity and greed dead ahead! No, your other left.
I'd hate to visit a tragedy scene 2:37 like th Titanic. So many people horribly suffered. 🌌🌎💙💔🙏🏻
They both share similar names Titanic and Titan
@@ReeM-wz7bs : And its design is best described as ‘ic(k)’. And I’m not just referring to the toilet arrangements.
By David Pogue saying it never lost communication with the mother ship at all makes me think there’s a greater possibility that it “Imploded Immediately” at the one hour and 45 minute mark.
David seems fair minded. No axe to grind. Discusses the good and the bad. Thank you.
“To my knowledge, this thing never lost communication.” Two minutes later: “These things glitch all the time.”
Someone who has taken this trip 4 times said they lost communication every time. He keeps contradicting himself.
@@distinctlydri2831 He probably lost a lot of brain cells too
Got lost with all that makeup on
@@Teetosantana you sound bothered and pressed. You should see my skin without makeup. You would really be upset.
@@distinctlydri2831 I was talking about that journalist that you were referring too. You a cutie.
David said that after 12 hours the craft would automatically rise to the surface because the sandbags would fall off. So getting entangled on Titanic wreckage or ghost net is possible, but they also lost communication "instantaneously". The tapping they heard is probably not someone banging on the hull with a hammer, it is made from carbon fiber not steel. The only thing that makes sense is decompression due to hull breach from either microscopic fracture or de-lamination of the carbon fiber sheets. This scenario would have given exactly 0 seconds to respond, crushing them instantly.
Yes. You could also speculate that they would have a sat phone and a PLB for a surface emergency rescue. I doubt they are on the surface. If they are on the surface and the hull is just carbon (no steel surrounding as well) I would think they might be able scrap a hole through the carbon for air. Maybe an abandoned net at depth snagged them and destroyed their antenna? Probably had a catastrophic failure.
The net snag sounds least likely, never herd of dragging nets 2 1/2 miles deep
@@RSYKES5200they’re nets that get lost or tangled by fishermen on the surface and sink to the bottom.
The opening hatch is made of titanium, so they do indeed have metal surface to tap on. Apparently it creates condensation on the inside of that hatch so they probably have some extra fluids to 👅 lick. Hypothermia threat is real
I would never set foot in that capsule if I know that it’s sealed from the outside.
Ikr😅 heck with that
even if you could open it from the inside. how would you reach the surface
@@mr.erikchun5863maybe that’s why they decided to do it like that, bc there was a story told that a guy in his panic to get out did just that and immediately killed everyone. So bc these aren’t trained professionals going down but tourist they figured it safer having the only way out from the outside. I couldn’t do it I am so scared of being in closed the thought of being buried alive makes my heart race, I am being cremated.
More like a once in a life-ending experience
There's not enough money ON EARTH that could convince me to get in a basically (homemade) submersible and go to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. None. The fact that they PAID for this is mind boggling.
It's a LIE!
True *Skypixal* (well said)
@@iloveschicken6527 What?
Well said
What’s weird is it doesn’t even have like good windows where you could really just enjoy the view.def not worth it!
It shouldnt even have the one window that alone is a weak point in the design no good submarine has windows they run completely off sonar because its less risk of hull failure
@@mmmaster100i saw a lady post go viral from her experience last year and it definitely has a few windows, the size of a airplane window
Better to watch Ballards movie on widescreen than through a stupid porthole.
It is more than an once-in-a-lifetime experience. It is an experience to die for.
I didn’t want to laugh but 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅
💀
LOL. And anyone should die exploring that freaking boat that sank over 111 years ago !!! Stupid, white, privileged billionaires. You can't get any black person to do that crap! We got more common sense than that! We would use that money to take care of ourselves and our families!
Those people are someone's son, husband, brother, father. I bet if these were broke random civilians, so many more people would care. It's really sad to me that their lives mean nothing to so many because of their wealth
It sounds like they could be trapped in a top-of-the-line carbon fiber coffin because they skimped on the rest of the components.
With all that is shared about the construction of the sub, the more the business sounds like an entrepreneurial start up.
I like how "the part that we care about" isn't the big, submersible-shaped part. Nice to know there are parts we don't care about.
quite reassuring really
Couldn't pay me enough to go on this thing
I’m sorry this journalist guy sounds like an investor in the company or something to that affect. I’m not sure how he could keep a straight face saying they were highly safety conscious straight after saying they only did 17 of the 18 bolts up because the 18 was too high and they couldn’t be arsed to the fact there was scaffolding pipes from an old building site strapped to it and the exterior and interior lights were from a high street store like Walmart or B&Q here in the U.K.!.
His job is to appear likable as a journalist and not sound cynical to hurt ratings imo
Sounds like something just thrown together
I agree + he constantly misreports the involvement of NASA and U Wash, something a journalist of his caliber would know not to do
"Very safety conscious" also "forget that bolt, you need a ladder screw that"
I mean seriously. No One's got a ladder? Screw it.
NASA has said they only consulted on it and University of Washington said they had NOTHING to do with it.
Where are you reading this? Can you cite me an article to read? I'm reading "The University of Washington's Applied Physics Laboratory worked with Rush and OceanGate from 2013 to 2020, a spokesperson said. They worked on an earlier version of the sub, a shallow diving submersible called CYCLOPS."
@@joeberger3441 It's true, I saw it as well
@@MsSweetpea1958Source?
NASA probably only consulted on the oxygen and CO2 scrubber systems.
This dude seems excited and happy not worried.
No mention of David Lockridge and the court case after he was sacked by the company? 2018. He said the sub was not safe to take to those depths and was sacked from his role for not certifying it safe.
Never buy your submersible from ACME and that Coyote salesman!
“Safety First” takes on a whole new meaning here. I’m surprised there weren’t redundant communication systems and recovery protocols.
Let's face it, evidently they cut corners on the sub and the task it was built to perform.
This guy and his cameraman were non paying passengers. Of course they cut it short. Not the case here.
Man are those guys going thru torture right now
Or maybe the sub imploded. Best case scenario since it's instant and painless.
Why would they not have a way to open it from the inside,so if it did surface you would still not die of lack of oxygen ?
low buck, corner cutting design.
I just heard that there was an incident where a foreign pilot of a submersible panicked while in the deep and opened the emergency hatch - water rushed in and he lost his life. Not sure but maybe because of that they don't make hatches/exits anymore.
@@EmiliaJay how can a hatch /door open under such pressure ? endless the whole things floods it can't open and at 12,500 feet or even lets say 500 feet it won't end well. and its bolted from the outside so it can withstand the massive amounts of pressure . its not a navel sub where it doesn't go down that much these "research" submersibles are designed for way more the 1500 feet
@theronzonie got to love the people that comment vomit remarks that don't have a clue what they are talking about. Oh just put a hatch door so you can just open it from the inside..
@@98blower17indeed, like submarines, they can have another sub dock onto it. He said he was learning from astronauts but one of the major disasters occurred when there as a fire on board at ground level on an apollo mission, calling for help but were bolted inside. This design was not done again I understand
" I understand this may result in permanent disability or death". Period.
Cue the dramatic music just before signing
well they shouldn't be crying down there
The sea was angry that day, my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli.
85 Jerry, 85!!!
I'm glad David didn't go down and I'm sure he is too. Sorry for the family and friends who lost loved ones.
Didn't the Russians dive with 2 submersibles in case one failed they could provide assistance?
Yes commercial vessels are required to. This was a private company.
@@CKing-388 , you mean government run vessels, commercial vessels are usually privately owned.
Yes and neither is in service anymore, not like they'd lend them out if they were.
@@Luna-jq9sn I guess that was part of the high adrenaline experience, a Houdini of sorts. Now, will they live to tell the tale ?
Wouldn't trust anything the terrorist Russians say. They couldn't even get to the Kursk I in time, that was in only 100 meters.
This guy is a hero he survived. What he did for CBS.
He only went down 37 ft rather than 13000. So there's that too.
That must have been a hell of a sales pitch to get those folks to pay $250,000 each, sign their lives away, and go on a death inducing deep dive into the north Atlantic in a shoddy built vessel that was never meant to go that deep. Crazy but not so crazy since it happened.
The hull was designed to go that deep - although the viewport wasn’t.
Wow! I would have liked to sell the guys the Golden Gate Bridge. I’d take $250k for it.
Nah, $250,000 isn't much money to a billionaire.
No other company I know of does titanic tours, that was the pitch.
You don’t have to do much selling when you’re sought out.
So is there a toilet onboard yeah
Yes it has all these ways of getting back to the surface but if they get pushed by massive wave while down there or they get caught in a crevice n maybe even snagged to something then u can't get up @ all.
@kimm3385, or in the Titanic's propeller, as has happened in a prior dive
If i had their money i would ask the company to provide second even third submersible with me to help me of something goes wrong and pay for it for life safety!
Looking at that cbs news coverage thing is so funny bc David was literally facepalming and going “come on!” So David just going “:/ yah they ded” is just kind of funny in a way
The pilot who was driving this death trap went to titanic in 1987 and pillaged it. Karma for stealing from the dead I’m sure.
so this Karma decides to kill the rest too? Karma sounds petty
Is that true?
@@superjervisyou're assuming they're dead. Not necessarily.
Yep, I just read about this. That French pilot is also a pirate, he’s been looting the titanic for decades.
Is it really looting?
It sunk and sitting in the middle of nowhere.
He did the interview no service 😂😂. If it’s designed to come up if people are unconscious, indicate to me it imploded due to pressure
Imagine all that rich millionaires inside that vessel and no dollar amount can save them from their demise.
Imagine parroting this comment and thinking money will save you at the mercy of something catastrophic event.
Imagine those rich Jews in ww2 and money can’t save them.
Funny thing is that you say "imagine" when it's reality (you probably have a low IQ and struggle with the concept of original thought, let alone imagining something new) and your only purpose in life (whether you realize it or not is irrelevant, I am sure you will go in to absolute denial and rage while struggling to appear composed and calm) is to breathe air and pollute comment sections on youtube with idiotic statements that make you feel superior in some strange way.
There's only 5 people in it. I know one is a British billionaire. One is a millionaire w his son. . Aren't the other two researchers? 🤷♀️
@@oldironsides4107a lot of rich Jews got out of Germany when the gettin was good!
a typical comment from a jealous loser
I feel like it’s like when the wright brothers first flew airplanes. They didn’t have all the fire extinguishers, emergency exits, and equipment. It’s just too new. A terrible learning experience.
No they knew(oceangate) , they just refused to listen
except deep-sea submarines aren't new
The didn't need emergency exits
@@ytgytgy: Microfibre sub hulls are new.
@@timonsoluscarbon fiber
send james cameron down there with a mouse and keyboard
I would laugh at this comment if it weren't such a sad situation.
..or seal team 6
@@meghanmisaliar i feel ya, but they all shoulda been more critical of this sub, esp after one guy cancelled from this trip and demanded his money back over fears they were cutting too many corners..
The last three trips were canceled over fears of structural fatigue, the view port was only rated at 4000 rather than Titanics depth of 12000-13000 feet, they used hardware store nuts and bolts to seal the sub and other recycled and shit parts, they're method of testing the hull was wrong and they got sued for it in 2018, but above all, why would you trust your life to a 40$ OFF BRAND ps4 controller that cost close to nothing to make?
250k price, all those riches, along with the extreme danger, and you cant even be critical of that? they are long gone unfortunately and i wouldnt be surprised at all if it was solely bc the controller fucked up, like you could drop it once, esp with those extenders on the sticks, and DIE! That alone sounds moronic to me and paints a picture of the level of thought that went into everything..
Another guy who has been on the titan 5 times said there was loss of communication every time he went
Also nothing is ever lost, everything is somewhere, Everything.
Dad still hasn't found that milk tho
He never got to the Titanic so how far did he go down?
37 feet down
According to what he is saying, 1 of 2 things:
1) the unit has surfaced on its own because of the sand bag system that would force it up and it is bobbing around the Atlantic.
2) The case ruptured and it filled with water... days ago.
What Ocean Gate company does contact Ocean Infinity to use rovers and help with the images?
Thank You USA TODAY. That guy knew his Stuff, Finally some Answers. THANK YOU
If the ballasts are on dissolving links they must have hung up on something.
I thought possibly the same thing. I thought maybe one or two of the links broke and flipped the sub into something or caused damage somehow.
maybe they forgot the USB charger for the joystick
Or they didn't charge the batteries for the whole sub, something went terribly wrong that's for sure..
they lost communication before they even reached Titanic...problem is they lost both communication techs they were using and still never surfaced......being hung up on something has nothing to do with communications
You are assuming that the vessel itself is still filled with air and buoyant. If the craft is not buoyant itself then dropping the weights would make no difference. (Theoretically speaking)
So basically the 18th bolt was in a location that a impact socket could not fit into and a open end wrench was too much work. That’s why it’s left off?
great questions from this interviewer - promote that man!!!!
This man is so educated on this ..and he is hopeful ❤
He has been nothing but contradictory. He confirmed through the waiver that vessel isn't even called a submersible and that the parts used were not intended for this use. He even mentioned rusty parts. There is verbiage in the waiver to protect the company. He then mentions how safety conscious the industry is after talking about how the vessel isn't properly constructed.
This sub has several mechanisms that can take it to the surface...most likely crushed during descent on Sunday.
I cant believe these people were on that thing that poor 19 year old was trusting these people that they know what theyre doing
I haven't heard a word or seen a picture of how they're searching. Anyone have any incite with facts?
No insight
Why didn't they bring the thing down that deep unmanned in a test before putting people in it that far down?
1:50 when pogue says the pressure capsule is unassailable - very reminiscent of what was said about the titanic - that it was unsinkable
Impossibly remote that Titanic would hit an iceberg
So it sounds like two kids building a rocket ship in their backyard with plans to go to the moon.
I don't think this search will end well unfortunately
Of course not. They not even showing you people at least trying to figure out what’s going on
They never thought about perhaps putting steel cables on this sub?
They wouldhave to be way too long.
13,000 ft of cables require an extremely large ship like a container ship to carry all that cable plus the Titan
You can imagine if it was a 1" thick steel cable, 13,000 feet long (likely have to be more due to sagging), the cable alone would be over 21,000 pounds. It would actually prevent the submersible from moving anywhere but to the bottom. And is just an ordinary steal cable, not galvanized, treated or anything. Pretty incredible.
shouldve bought the 2 way ticket guys....cmon
Could the repairs on the hull actually of compromise the structure.. I’ve heard the repairs weren’t checked by the pros
Theyll change the name and keep doing the dives and people will still sign up for it
They captioned tourist as taurus.
it did not go missing, we just could not find it, so you see the people on the sub knew where they were so they were not lost
Seen a navy guy in piers Morgan talking about how in they’re subs everything is traced back to where it was manufactured down to the bolts , so yea this doesn’t seem good
This could put a damper on this sort of madness.
Hope a respected one comes forward to get a feel were they are
If Pogue had done his job as a journalist, he would have exposed what a terrible operation this is.
He’s not a journalist. He was paid to promote this ridiculous sub. He did a fine job.
THIS REPORTER WENTTO DO A REPORT AND HE NEVER WENT DEEEPER THEN 37 FEET. IT SEEMS TO ME, THAT TELLS YOU EVERY THING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS SUBMERSIABLE. DONT GO!!
No GPS is like a vehicle with no steering wheel,if you had a 20 thousand dollars GPS you would find ❗️ this is stupidity
GPS works well in deep water 😂
GPS what for? Doesn't work underwater. GPS is a receiver not a transmitter. They probably have a sat phone and a PLB for on the surface.
he said in another interview that even if its found there is no way to tow it back up to the surface
Doing this above ground to human/animal assures prosecution or murder charges :(
David says: “On our day to dive…”
-The lost crew just dropped the “v” in that sentence.
He is so lucky he is alive.
Looks like a paid promotion to clear ocean gate repute
It looks too simple compared to russian Mir 1-2. Strangee how it was licensed to operate in high seas
It’s wasn’t approved by any regulatory authority. Basically it was more along the lines of a backyard experiment. So I don’t think it was liscenced to operate in any seas.
Checklists? But why not have two submersibles next to each other to watch for emergencies? But why did the Sub not come to the top? It’s mind-boggling.
The sub wouldn’t be able to surface automatically if it was crushed like an eggshell or flooded.
why dont they have an emergency escape thats bolted in from the inside(at assembly), then leave tools to open the exit inside. What would you need, a breaker bar, a rathet, a socket and a backup socket.
How does this thing compare to the DSV Limiting Factor?
People knew what they were getting into at least. Hopefully they are found alive and have a great story to tell.
ptsd as number 1
Claiming that thing is safe, is the equivalent of truely believing that Santa Claus really does exist
You would expect more regulation and oversight on a contraption that holds human beings, especially paying passengers. It would be similar to a commercial flight.
This guy was lucky.
That submersible seems a bit too ‘ garage project’ for my liking. Relying on touchscreen and Bluetooth ( and we all know how glitchy these things can be) and, seemingly, little mechanical contingencies….eg location transponder! Well, you pays your money, you take your chances.
There are so many stories out there of people who are adventure seekers like David mentioned in this piece. I mean, why would you put your life - our most precious gift - for any of this? It makes no sense to me, I see no adventure if it involves risking my life, hell no...
Some simple math and examination of the fact tells you the outcome is not likely to be good. It takes 2 hours to get to the wreck and they lost communication approximately 15 minutes before they would have arrived at the Titanic. This means they are not snagged on the wreck with a loss of power and the ascent redundancy on the vehicle was not deployed so...
I wonder what sort of table top exercise they did on what recovery would look like from max depth? It's never been done, there are few platforms that can dive that deep let alone carry out a rescue. Seems like they convinced themselves that any scenario would not get that far, that their safety measures would all work.
The thing that only 17 bolts instead of the 18 designed by some so called engineers if it could I wonder cause a failure also.Obviously they fired the one who voiced concerns. The reason you would want to get to the surface is if the frame started to buckle in if it even did that at all I heard in another interview that the weights did not drop off at first or very quickly.
The Pokeer Waiver-going all in! Still as many check lists as they had, that port window was rated for 1,300 M that should hav e been itès limit! he should also have had the hull rated. He is so lucky the dive got scrubbed. There are so many wrecks less than 1,300 M-no sense going to the Titanic.
So... If he was in a sub that was "lost" looking for the Titanic and had power to maneuver around for 3 hours and still get back to the surface... that would mean the sub had enough power for at least 8-10 hours for a full dive... that would suggest one of two things... they somehow lost all power on the way down and are dead in the water stuck on the seafloor, or they had a leak and potentially drown...
The question you should have asked him was. Why? What makes the Titanic worth going down 200 miles in the ocean? Its just a rusting ship like a million others.
Problems during Deep Ocean submersions...Space Flight...Elitist Millionaire's problems.
Why tho wouldn't they b constantly banging?? Because the sonar only heard it like at 30 minute intervals, apparently
That's an established naval practice for submarines in distress, apparently. Every 30 mins, the other rescue vessels and others around shut down their communications and stay quiet and listen out for any such distress sounds. It makes sense. Also, constant banging would require constant exertion and use up much more oxygen.
To preserve oxygen, 30 min intervals would indicate SOS.
Will it rise even case of crush depth?