Well done. "I-formation" Good teamwork. Leader in the front, clear instructions, checking in with everybody. I liked when the woman demanded a better grip, she needed more, made it clear, got louder, problem solved. Thanks for sharing this.
As a man who lived 30 years along the Eastern Sierras I KNOW how cold that water was and as mand who watches a lot of PCT hikers jouneys that was KNARLY crossing that river.... Nuts!! BRAVO!!! ;)
Love this video. Great team work. The speed and depth was hard to determine until the group got close to the camera. That is some swift water! Also, most hilarious moment was at 3:07 (poor girl was terrified), "I need more from you! I need more hand!". LOL for days.
@@jindonuts5301 Yeah, that was on me! Shouldn't have tried to help while filming. My fingers were also numb and frozen as I had just stood a good while in the stream (as the first in the formation you go in first and leave last).
Wow...that was intense! What would someone do who was alone? I hiked the AT and was alone for long stretches of it, but the crossings weren't as wide and treacherous as that one. Thank goodness you had a group that could all work together. Well done!
Even solo hikers team up in the Sierra. In 2017 two solo PCT hikers (both petite females) downed in separate river crossings. Not worth the risk. Wait and cross with a group.
Well NO its not. This in fact while not the worst is not that great.. Lead steps and others in succession step. Having the whole group Moving at same time is bad unless angling UPSTREAM, not sideways and Certainly DO NOT try climbing out on SLICK wet rock.... This should be used as a training method of where to NOT CROSS
Well, that was something to respect and example to follow. People who know what to do, excellent team work execution, beautiful nature. What more one could ask for! Would you go into trouble making tutorial video on river crossing techniques for us? Your skills and experience is rare to find on youtube.
Best option for a solo hiker is to wait for others to arrive and join a group of others. Generally, unless you’re hiking in a very very off season, someone will soon arrive. Or you can plan ahead and make sure you arrive to these crossings with others as just like passes, you’ll know them coming up in advance.
Moves into current suddenly with no lean on slippery rock -- "I need more from you!" Don't freak out. She looked terrified the entire crossing and so she freaked out near the end.
That’s on me as well as I was focusing too much on the filming and I didn’t get a good grip off of her hand. Should’ve either stay aside and let someone else help her, or put down my camera and not half-ass it :)
@@iskosalminen No offence to you guys. It's great footage, and everyone did their best to help each other out. At least it was successful and everyone got across just fine.
We scouted the creek up and down the previous day. When the creek gets narrower, it also gets deeper. We specifically wanted to cross here were it was widest as not have to swim. We had heard some harrowing experiences from people who did try to swim the narrower parts. I'm 5'9'' and even here, at the widest part, the water came up to my chest. Me feet wouldn't have touched the bottom if we'd chosen a narrower part.
It was quite refreshing :) we don’t carry extra clothing so you just let it air dry. Once the sun gets up, it doesn’t take long for the clothing to dry. Walking also helps.
You should change out of wet clothing to avoid hypothermia. Even if it means getting back into you sleeping gear. Once the sun is out then maybe put back on one wet item at a time to help it dry as you equally don’t want your sleeping gear wet.
Walk Away the Wanderlust it's a pretty good formation for stream crossing. Basically the first person takes the brunt of the current, but has the whole group to support them from behind. Others in the middle don't feel the current. You put strongest in the front and back. The last person is the anker and keeps the group up.
Where the heck is your paracord? That's one of the #1 pieces of equipment you want to have if river crossings are in your route. At bare minimum you can throw it across and catch something on the other side or give yourself (and the next group) an anchor the the shore if you slip or go down. And take those packs off!!!
This is a really bad advice! Unless you're a trained swiftwater expert, ropes are the best way to get yourself (or others) killed in river crossings. Ropes can pin you down, strangle you and kill you in a multitude of ways. Also, how would you get a paracord cross a river like this? Especially when there's nothing to attach it to on the other side? And how would you cross the river without your pack?
Don't give advice on things you don't know, and especially don't say something is the #1 piece of equipment when it's clearly not. What is the paracord gonna attach to besides your body here? What's gonna anchor it when you throw it across to catch something? That's such a ridiculous idea you've obviously never tried. And if they take the packs off, what are they gonna do -- float it? This was a great instructional and executed well. This guy knows what he's doing. You don't.
Well done. "I-formation" Good teamwork. Leader in the front, clear instructions, checking in with everybody. I liked when the woman demanded a better grip, she needed more, made it clear, got louder, problem solved. Thanks for sharing this.
As a man who lived 30 years along the Eastern Sierras I KNOW how cold that water was and as mand who watches a lot of PCT hikers jouneys that was KNARLY crossing that river.... Nuts!! BRAVO!!! ;)
Love this video. Great team work. The speed and depth was hard to determine until the group got close to the camera. That is some swift water! Also, most hilarious moment was at 3:07 (poor girl was terrified), "I need more from you! I need more hand!". LOL for days.
Dude gave her 3 fingers... I’d be like bruhhh
@@jindonuts5301 Yeah, that was on me! Shouldn't have tried to help while filming. My fingers were also numb and frozen as I had just stood a good while in the stream (as the first in the formation you go in first and leave last).
Brilliant way of crossing, definitely keeping this in mind for when i do the hike next season.
Stay safe and have fun
Good job on using those reversal currents. Because you guys are in front of one and other, an Eddy Line was created. Nice work!!!
TERRIFIC! THANK YOU!
This is great team work. Great job guys and gals!
Wow...that was intense! What would someone do who was alone? I hiked the AT and was alone for long stretches of it, but the crossings weren't as wide and treacherous as that one. Thank goodness you had a group that could all work together. Well done!
Just take your time, find the least sketchy spot and keep your footing. Helps to have a lower pack weight.
Even solo hikers team up in the Sierra. In 2017 two solo PCT hikers (both petite females) downed in separate river crossings. Not worth the risk. Wait and cross with a group.
That's how you take care of each other on the trail.
Creek? That's a full on river.
You should send a copy/link to the PCTA so they include it in their safety article. This is the way to cross a creek/river.
Well NO its not. This in fact while not the worst is not that great.. Lead steps and others in succession step. Having the whole group Moving at same time is bad unless angling UPSTREAM, not sideways and Certainly DO NOT try climbing out on SLICK wet rock.... This should be used as a training method of where to NOT CROSS
Well, that was something to respect and example to follow. People who know what to do, excellent team work execution, beautiful nature. What more one could ask for! Would you go into trouble making tutorial video on river crossing techniques for us? Your skills and experience is rare to find on youtube.
All my respect to you guys
Great job. Nice to see how it should be done.
Love the Team work
Classic I formation!
Fantastic video!
Stupid question, what would solo hiker would do in this situation?
Best option for a solo hiker is to wait for others to arrive and join a group of others. Generally, unless you’re hiking in a very very off season, someone will soon arrive. Or you can plan ahead and make sure you arrive to these crossings with others as just like passes, you’ll know them coming up in advance.
whta you call the leader is holding to break the water?
Those are standard hiking poles. They don't much break the water, but they provide two extra points of contact for stability.
Moves into current suddenly with no lean on slippery rock -- "I need more from you!"
Don't freak out. She looked terrified the entire crossing and so she freaked out near the end.
That’s on me as well as I was focusing too much on the filming and I didn’t get a good grip off of her hand. Should’ve either stay aside and let someone else help her, or put down my camera and not half-ass it :)
@@iskosalminen No offence to you guys. It's great footage, and everyone did their best to help each other out. At least it was successful and everyone got across just fine.
Wow that was great team work.
Upstream the creek is narrower in 2 places per your video. Always scout up and down stream for safer crossings. You can always come back to the trail.
We scouted the creek up and down the previous day. When the creek gets narrower, it also gets deeper. We specifically wanted to cross here were it was widest as not have to swim. We had heard some harrowing experiences from people who did try to swim the narrower parts. I'm 5'9'' and even here, at the widest part, the water came up to my chest. Me feet wouldn't have touched the bottom if we'd chosen a narrower part.
Need a fording song to keep up that rhythm, can then dance across the stream.
Thanks for sharing! We executed!
where is this place?
Brilliant
Wow. Scary, but well done!
6am? Isn't it super cold? Do you guys change or just tough-it-out?
It was quite refreshing :) we don’t carry extra clothing so you just let it air dry. Once the sun gets up, it doesn’t take long for the clothing to dry. Walking also helps.
You should change out of wet clothing to avoid hypothermia. Even if it means getting back into you sleeping gear. Once the sun is out then maybe put back on one wet item at a time to help it dry as you equally don’t want your sleeping gear wet.
Helpful video! how many crossings of this nature were there on the length of the PCT? Were there any deeper/faster than this one?
I've never seen a group cross like this before. Do you think it stopped the water pressure for the group as a whole? how did you decide the order?
Walk Away the Wanderlust it's a pretty good formation for stream crossing. Basically the first person takes the brunt of the current, but has the whole group to support them from behind. Others in the middle don't feel the current. You put strongest in the front and back. The last person is the anker and keeps the group up.
Nice !!!
There's a footbridge 1/4-1/2 mile up stream
RedWhite&Blue 78 we didn't see one, or hear anyone else see one
Isko Salminen... thanks for the response... I was just yanking your chain... lol
Where the heck is your paracord? That's one of the #1 pieces of equipment you want to have if river crossings are in your route. At bare minimum you can throw it across and catch something on the other side or give yourself (and the next group) an anchor the the shore if you slip or go down. And take those packs off!!!
Just wondering: what would you do with the packs?
This is a really bad advice! Unless you're a trained swiftwater expert, ropes are the best way to get yourself (or others) killed in river crossings. Ropes can pin you down, strangle you and kill you in a multitude of ways.
Also, how would you get a paracord cross a river like this? Especially when there's nothing to attach it to on the other side? And how would you cross the river without your pack?
Don't give advice on things you don't know, and especially don't say something is the #1 piece of equipment when it's clearly not. What is the paracord gonna attach to besides your body here? What's gonna anchor it when you throw it across to catch something? That's such a ridiculous idea you've obviously never tried. And if they take the packs off, what are they gonna do -- float it? This was a great instructional and executed well. This guy knows what he's doing. You don't.
Don't take off your pack, it makes you heavier which helps.
Bad advice on both the paracord and the packs.