Student Debt & Fecal Medicine (VICE on HBO: Season 4, Episode 17)
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2017
- Americans owe $1.3 trillion in student loans --second only to home mortgages. The rise in student loan borrowing is tied to skyrocketing tuition rates, which are up 226% since 1980. VICE reports from America's college campuses to explore how a spigot of easy money from the federal government is jacking up the cost of higher education and even threatening our international competitiveness.
For years, medical science was powerless against one of the most of severe intestinal infections. But a new treatment shows tremendous promise -- if patients aren't too squeamish to try it. Fecal transplants use the stool from a healthy person to repopulate life-sustaining bacteria in the colon of the patient. This technique is so effective that researchers are testing its potential to treat disorders far beyond the digestive tract, pointing to breakthrough treatments for a broad range of the most stubborn diseases. VICE reports from the labs and lavatories where this medical revolution is taking place.
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So wait...if I have my kids start selling their feces now, when it comes time for them to go to college they'll be able to pay their own tuition! Thanks for this one, VICE!
That seems very far fetched
Teamwork makes the dream work.
That kids gonna B the shit when he grows up
158k in debt to be a teacher? You can't act like you didn't know exactly what you were doing taking out excessive loans
I didn't want to laugh at her but come on…
You’re right that she made a bad choice, but that’s not the end of the story. Teachers are a necessity. Yeah, it’s technically a little stupid to get a degree in something where you’ll never be able to pay off your debts, but it’s stupid on a grand scale for the cost to become a teacher to be far more expensive than a teacher would be able to afford in the first place. If it becomes unaffordable to become a teacher, we either need to import all of our teachers, or accept less rigorous standards for education during a time where the United States is already starting to fall behind.
Trust me it wasn't 158k when she started and its easier than you think to get that much in debt
Correct, Teachers and social workers should not be paying the same cost as someone taking business, law, engineering or even medical cost. There degrees just are not worth it.
a ton of these shits use their loans towards rent rather than work part time 4 years of little to no income cause of laziness ending with tons of debt
Can we talk about textbooks, though? Like, a 200 dollar nursing textbook, or a 125 dollar calculus textbook? These are just copy-and-pasted together from already existing sources of information. There's nothing new in these books, and a book is a centuries old technology. There needs to be a cap on the price of a textbook. I'd say the max should be $50, and that's being very generous.
Truth spoken. Textbooks almost mess up the good deal you get by attending community college. $191 for a class, but $156 for the textbook for the class. Appreciate all professors who don't require you to get the textbook.
John Smith there is a thing called torrent where you can download free e books😑 . I have completed my engineering and doing job for 2 years and I never bought a book .
Textbook companies make deals with universities to require their textbooks.
That's why they have torrents lol
But a lot of the professors write these book, or college claim them to be specific to their program. Therefore, they make more money on top of tuition.
Pair these two stories together and it could easily be "Pay your exorbitant tuition with money made from fecal donations"
Student loans are primarily gained because simple lack of knowledge. You can go to your local community college and do very well for a fraction of the cost. If you work hard and your grades are good enough you could then transfer to a 4 year university.
Students are rarely taught this in High School and feel the pressure to jump straight into college.
I think it's time for the community colleges to start offering 4 year degrees with the second two years at the same price as the first two. They're going to have to do it by cutting half of their programs. They have a lot of bullshit programs they could stand to cut. Degrees get inflated over time like money. I think we're at the point where an A.A degree is basically a glorified high school diploma.
Edit: I said they have a lot of bullshit programs they could stand to cut. Meaning, I think they should get rid of all the worthless degrees and focus on the ones that are in demand. Want to use government money to go to college? Fine, but you should have to pick from a list of degrees in fields where it's easy to find a job once you get qualified.
Melissa0774 says:
"I think it's time for the community colleges to start offering 4 year degrees with the second two years at the same price as the first two..."
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Make it better.
How about free tuition, at least to the students who are bright enough to qualify for it?
It's an investment to the future society.
Most developed countries have them, why not in US?
One example,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Technology
Steven Horton says:
"Here's what we need:.."
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Never thought anybody came with that idea already?
Yep, people tried that many times in the history and failed.
How it failed?
By creating an inequality. Richs get super rich, poors get super poor.
Inequality is the biggest killer of the economy
It happened in Rome then collapsed, it happened before 1929 in US then the great depression took place.
If you do't learn the history, the history repeats.... endlessly.
It's not about matter of conservative or liberal, it's plain stupidity.
THIS IS SO OFF-TOPIC! THIS ISN'T WHAT THE VIDEO IS ABOUT!!!
The video is about scam artists making "for-profit" colleges and scamming children straight out of High School! Do you want regulations to stop this, or are you siding with the scam artists??
Community Colleges do offer Greta careers. I am an RN and make $73,000/ yr and have my associates from a community college 🤗
I say, charge tuition, by how much the market is offering at the time of attending school. Social workers and teachers should not have to pay the same tuition cost of say an business or engineering degree, since those professions pay so much more in the long run
I came because I'm intrigued at how they will relate these two topics 🤔
These topics won't aren't relatable.
@@minecraftminertime what?!
Ditto 😂
I stop going to college because of money now I'm working in the trades :)
good god this is depressing
They wanged you out huh?
The college bubble is about to burst and it may be sooner than yall think.
grapedrank666 What do you mean? As in shit will hit the fan and we will be free from debt?
That's why I seemed some knowledge Southwest community college
Good ! I will be glad to see all these private colleges collapse.
I didn't go to college because I didn't want to be on that boat.
WhoeverCan Lie same would go if i could but cant
If you weren't stupid you would have gotten enough scholarships to go to college for free.
just go to university in Europe or something like that, you will still get an education, excellent quality and have it either for free or for a sensible price.
Canada has diploma and degree Mills that are in high demand and nice high-tech printers available for sale at your local Walmart, Staples, office Depot to print your own LOL
The proof that the american dream is almost 100% dead
That people are taking stupid loans?
It’s fucked up to live in a country where people have to go in debt or bankruptcy for education and healthcare, yet they sell you cheap unhealthy food/entertainment at every corner. American priorities....no wonder you end up with Trump.
Need to check out what Mike Rowe has to say about this. He’s spot on.
the american dream was always an illusion for the mass. it was as real as the bible.
Fir the working class, it moved to Canada.
THe interaction between the stool donor and thomas was hilarious
How to stay out of student loan scams:
1. Go to school for something useful and not some stupid shit like English, Art History or Journalism
2. Either go somewhere cheap or on a scholarship, paying $3k instead of paying $30k a year is a way better deal
3. It really does not matter where you go to school, I go to a CUNY school for $5200 a year while some of my friends go to school for $62000, however I probably have a better chance at getting a job and I only owe $7200 in loans while some of my friends go to a school with no connections and will come out with a mortgage instead of a student loan.
4. Learning a trade shouldn’t be looked down upon, they’ll probably make more money than you and will always have a job.
5. Avoid for-profit colleges like the plague.
6. There’s nothing wrong with state schools, at all, no matter what your friends and family say.
7. Start paying interest off while your in school, it doesn’t cost much and you’ll save way more in the long run.
8. If you have no clue what you wanna do after your sophomore year, save everyone some trouble and take some time off, find yourself on your own time, not on a loan.
Yea, I finished a CUNY and graduated debt free. Then went for a Master's and got a job paying $72k and within a year paid off my college debt. But really I find it's a crap-shoot a lot of the time when picking a field and trying to get a good job. For instance, there are certain fields, not all, with great jobs in tech but they're inundated with visa workers making it harder for young Americans to actually get started; I see it first-hand. Hell, I got interviewed many times by people who were clearly foreign born by their thick accent. Even if you do everything right you can still get shafted.
I know what you mean, my boss is from Shanghai, my supervisor is from Bangladesh, and most of my co-workers are Jamaican or Dominican, it doesn't bother me but I feel like I'm the only one there that doesn't need a visa to work.
Colin McGuire wait, you mean I can't go to college and study what makes me feel good and happy? What if I Wana b in a school that has good parties and nice dorms??
Well if you can pay for it, sure
I know doctors, lawyers and dentists who have loans exceeding 100K+ you donkey. it's not about what your major is
Couldn't stop laughing when the guy was doing his own fecal transplant and the reporter is sitting hella awkwardly in the background 🤣
To the people who are so apt to blame the students for going to college.
- How old are you?
- When did you go to college?
- When was the last time you were in the active deployment hunt?
- Last time you experienced the job market?
- What do you currently do for work?
- What college did you attend/did you attend?
- What year did you graduate if you did?
- What was your field of study if you did?
Travis Alex well for the teacher she is dumb she is 100k+ in debt and her job is a teacher. Teachers for starters don't get paid as much as more experienced teachers. Kinda of a dumb choice for her. She should have went to a community college
How about we don't go to a college that charges so much? How about we research a field before jumping into it?
I'm 35 and went straight into the Navy as a Nuclear Machinist Mate.
Never been out of a job for longer than 6 weeks. Last time I was looking for a job was 2008 when I took over a Truck and motorcoach shop. I left that for my current job where I'm a Supervisor for a major manufacturer.
No college.
People that work for me earn between $23-29 per hour and get 48 hours per week. MOST of them haven't gone to college. Those that did went to a VoTech and got a 2 year certificate.
Everyone in HS thought I was crazy or stupid for not wanting to go to college.
Who's laughing now!!! >:D
Vile Crocodile They are after they find a good job :)
rick gurung i have a good job, minus the debt. In fact i have the opposite of debt. I have savings. :D
How the hell did they accumulate $290 000 student debt? That is insane.
You can learn more on the internet than any college. That's why they charge so much. The entire higher education industry will soon become obsolete, so they're inflating prices while they can.
Spit out my food at 3:54 . $290,000 in total debt.
21:13 The most awkward moment in VICE with the most socially awkward people ever to be filmed in VICE
The host looks like steve Rogers before becoming Captain America.
The fecal medicine part of this was unexpectedly awkward and also funny
Love the look on the Aas faces. (18:50) Arms crossed and that look. Priceless.
fecal transplants aren't easy to get here in the bay area, every place ive contacted have requirements and i never qualify.
26:40 The look of an existential crisis, "What the fuck am I doing here? And what the fuck am I doing with my life?"
Speechless
Crap, I clicked on this hoping that providing my fecal matter could help knock out my student loans.
Need help 🥺 retrieving that...🖐️
That Mona Lisa smile @26:06 says it all. Lmfao!! 🤣 🤣 🤣
"Before they're paid 40 bucks for their morning dump..." Oh god that cracked me up! Thomas is the best.
I'm glad I never went to college, I went into the Oil and Gas Industry at 18 years old and worked my way up. I'm now making well over $150,000 a year after 4 years of work. No debt at all and living life to the fullest!
My poops... are the BEST poops.
They're the most medicinal poops of all time.
OK I have to comment about poo as medicine. When the man went in the room with the the guy from vice to give himself a shit enema, the way the vice guy was sitting on the bed so uncomfortable. I started laughing.
Yo did a teacher just say she owed 100,000??? "How Sway"😕
This is like the juice press of my nightmares lol such a funny guy
While student loans increasingly became a national crisis, more and more colleges and universities are hiring contingent faculties to teach their classes. Basically, students are paying more for an education of lesser quality because more and more of their instructors don't get paid enough and have to take on multiple classes to have a living wage. Meanwhile, decrease in funding from the states means that the price of attendance is shifting from a public issue to an individual issue. The stories in some elite institutions, however, could look very different.
College currently is a waste of money go to a trade school where you actually learn things and can put your knowledge to use.
Allahcuckbar yes i agree. and keep the factory outside US. we would love that.
Well if u wanna be a doctor, lawyer, physicist, or anything like that u kinda need to go to college
That’s what I’m doing rn 😎😎😎😎
The thumbnail looks like Link from GMM.
I know this is a serious exposé, but it literally made me laugh out loud multiple times. Specifically when he was going to the stool donor place. I know I'm not the only one...
The quality is still the best
the fecal medicine segment was so interesting. How truly disgusting the DIY method was but Thomas' expression as that dude administered himself was priceless
I was planning to go to a private school, but I decided it would be smarter to not take out student loans and go to my local city college for free for 2 years then transfer to a state school. So glad I found these videos, debt is the reality for so many students.
Hey now besides what they're saying, her hair is fudging AMAZING
I love Vice!
I am literally a prime test patient for FMT, have had chronic constipation, debilitating 24/7 full body nausea, chrons, endometriosis, MS, unexplained severe nervous system problems like major temp changes & temp sensitivity, full surface of my skin, especially face, neck & arms/hands, feels like its covered in Icy/Hot or Tiger Balm, myoclonic seizures almost every night, menopause symptoms since age 24, severe anxiety & depression, an enlarged heart w/ terminal stress induced heart failure imminent, had 2 incidents in 5 yrs of total renal failure & heart failure w/ multiple PEs each time. I am on medical cannabis now, having all my teeth extracted over several months, as somehow between age 21 to now, my teeth went from being almost flawless, to nearly all fractured, corroded from the inside, some infected. Feeling hopeless, unable to get myself to a state where any Dr cares to find out WTF is wrong with me & help me stop suffering!!
You should probably get a fecal matter transplant.
I hope this prayer brings you healing and peace. It is 'most precious blood of Jesus Christ, save us and the whole world' 500x
"...yikes...this is like the juice press of my nightmares!" :D
Vice is serious journalism in the 21st century. Great job 4th Estate.
Growing up I saw the scam that was college. I did a semester at community college. After hearing the repetitive talk of "You need a degree to get anywhere" and not wanting to feel like a loser for not following my classmate to 'higher education'. Despite my better judgment I enrolled into ITT-Tech. It was the biggest reassurance of my initial thoughts. This was all a fucking joke. I was lucky enough to accept it and all the things I learned were on my own ability. I was fortunate enough to see this and landed a job by skills that we're not taught there. For others, they are fighting to pay a loan for piece of paper that means NOTHING! I'm currently Fighting my ITT-Tech loan now. Wish me the most fucking luck you can.
did you ever visit the website ittsucks.com or something to that extent? it was basically a website where students who have attended or are attending ITT and are writing their experiences. man there are some horror stories on there. most would write that none of the teachers knew what they were teaching and that every friday they would have pizza parties. that ITT was basically a joke of a school.
Poor Thomas, endured it like a champ, god damn .
She said hopeless with a smile
criminal justice degree at a BUSINESS SCHOOL? wtf lmao
I tapped out at 26:58
I hold 2 degrees & I’m in my 8th year of teaching. I am absolutely crushed and ground under by my school debt. I want this to be my last year of teaching so that I may study to become an underwater welder. Teacher salary does not pay. I don’t even have food security! My dad is helping me with food.
P.S. My school debt is $152K as of July 2017.
What about young people who are debt-free, but are struggling to find and/or keep a job/career?
Poop is the future
K K I was the first person to like your comment
I got the ball rolling
Say "fecal transplant" one more time
Why?
the college trap........ just learn a trade at a technical college and your good to go i have been a auto technician at a subaru dealership and make 85 grand a year
yea, you can also get certifications (e.g. cisco network certs) and be a technician making $90k before you're 20. Problem is people get funneled into colleges and don't know a thing about trade schools. It's not their fault really.
joe burkel i met an elevator technician making 54 dollars an hour. trade school does help but you have to find a trade that will make more than enough to make ends meet.
Noway you making 85K a year doing that! lol Prolly around 40K
@@connorvermontwinters5149 You can most def make good money like that as a tech for a dealership.
And your life is boring as fuck and you wont be remembered for doing anything special
They should have learn how it is going to affect them in the future. I'm going to Community College this Fall and transfering to my third year at a university.
I don't have pity for anyone who decides it's a good idea to take out loans for an overpriced private college especially if the degree they are getting isn't going to be marketable in today's economy. Going to spend 100k getting bachelor's degree in communications? Well then enjoy your debt and job as a barista but please don't complain to me when I'm getting my morning coffee.
Stfu
Such a school with luxurious comfort and the place don't look like a school no wonder so expensive this is like enjoying life in Singapore ours are luxurious but basic like library canteen or fashfood restaurants also have although our fees are expensive too still a far cry from yours but depending on courses.
Learn German and go to university there
Would be more helpful to learn Turkish or Arabic to study in Germany.
Germans have bigger salaries
no they actually don't
Or even one of these Island universities. Better yet, just join the military.
OMG dude is doing it on his own. I bet he likes it.
Thanks
I think debt is fine for going to college, as long as you only accrue less than your expected starting salary.
Example: If you think you'll make 40k starting out, don't get any more than 40k in debt during school. Same if you're going to make 100k starting out or 200k etc.
By that logic, no one should go to medical school, ever. The average in-state tuition debt at graduation is like $200,000 in my state. And you make nowhere near that much after graduating until you complete residency, which can last anywhere from 3 - 7+ years! Just saying :)
You got a point, but my point wasn't supposed to apply towards professional degrees. Since you're likely to make decent money out of school (80-90k min) then can get all the way up to 200k, then 400k or more if you're a good surgeon.
God bless the advances in science.
My little sister took Nursing Assistant classes in EVIT while she was still in high school...EVIT departments are free for all high school students and they graduate with college credits and a certificate of completion before graduating from their high school.....my sister did 500 hours of community service in the hospital and was later hired at the hospital as a nurse assistant ...she didnt even had to pay a single penny.......If there is any EVIT schools near you and you have a high school child...think about having them get on that program, they would be getting college credits for free while in high school......but you gotta be like super super smart and always have good grades while in high school...if you fail one single class in high school, they would let you go from EVIT
doing the stool thing yourself with your neighbors shit is so gross
Last Week Tonight covered this better
7:45 - That quite background music is a complete rip off of the Take Shelter soundtrack. The bells and that cello.... wow. Melody is almost exact too.
Here's the overall student loan/debt system the older people have left behind for us (the presumed "leaders of the future"):
1. go to college or university (because everybody told you to all your life)
2. get a student loan (because you or your parents aren't rich enough to pay)
3. graduate with degree & student debt
4. need to find a job right after graduating
5. nobody will hire you because you don't have experience or 20ish certificates they're looking for in applicants BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO BUSY EARNING YOUR FUCKING DEGREE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE
6. get shitty job with shitty pay instead
7. spend the rest of life barely getting by while paying off student debt
This is obviously not sustainable, but don't count on that to help. As long as the lenders, bankers and for-profit colleges profit off of it, this system will continue. It will get worse and worse. Tuition will rise more, interest rates will skyrocket, and lenders will profit even greater. It'll go from $1.3 trillion total debt to $5 trillion in the next 20ish years. Okay, I might exaggerate that prediction, but the point is that there shouldn't be an amount in the first place, let alone in the TRILLIONS!! The lenders are PROUD of this rotten system and they will never change it. The only things that could cause a significant change are either a disaster (economic, natural, etc.) that tears it all down or the world turns into pre-1900s where only the wealthiest people could afford education while everybody else work as peasants. This is a disgrace to even the concept of education.
16:17 Lit asf
when you're lucky enough to get a full ride
At first I was like....no, there's no way he's going to stay in the room while this guy does a fecal transplant. Then, holy shit, he's actually watching a guy do a fecal transplant.
That's what I'm doing 2 year community college debt free! And life is improving!
I finished a Master's with 23k in debt from a top 100 school and got a job paying 72k before I finished with no relevant work experience. No reason to have 160k debt when planning things out wisely. I was lucky to go to a cheap public school for my Bachelor's. Having said that, degrees aren't always worth it. They're good to have if you leave with minimum debt and finish quickly and plan to work for the next 40+ years, but you can live a very successful life without them. I know having my degrees allows me access to the jobs I want to work on, but there are plenty of jobs out there that can pay as well or possibly even better without degrees.
What did you major in?
What did you major in?
All public school teachers qualify for PSLF so their complaints about student loans are generally unfounded because after paying the minimum, the federal government forgives all SU and SS loans. Why take out $158k for school anyway?! There's no way her local state college cost even a quarter of that.
12:34 how is this different from community college?
HPU is legit one of the most expensive schools in NC. Also, she's a terrible tour guide. I used to work as one at my undergrad and if we had bashed the classical music we would have been fired.
Tuition costs have also increased because universities know they can charge whatever they want and the federal government will pay for it!
How about that morning dump tho
Anyone else think that Link Neal was in the thumbnail for a second?
I go to High Point U. I am currently in my last semester and I plan on graduating full honors with a degree in Wumbology. And sure, the tuition is expensive, but trust me my degree basically pays for itself.
What did you major in
dstblj 52 wumbology
@@dstblj5222 it's a SpongeBob joke
never heard of highpoint university
this is why I didn't enroll to a university in the US. moved to manila instead bc tuition is much cheaper
Bill Haslam went to my high school!
New York--not just the city but the entire state is doing free college. The catch to that is you have to live in New York for 10 years but hey..FREE College??!!!
This is why Mike Rowe and his message are so important. College is a joke, out of state college is a waste of money because nobody cares about what college you go to (especially to become a teacher).
It is true that college isn't what it was like back then where you have college degree = a job (stable, well pay). But it still applies still today just not that much. Of course some people would tell you to get into the trading school, but even then that doesn't solve anything and really just saturate the field of trading. This problem isn't straight forward and is complicated to solve.
Well, I watched this video just to see the poop transplant part.
AA degree should be offered to high school students with good state standardized test scores and grades, starting in their sophomore year. That way students are motivated at a younger age to finish college and even pursue higher degrees with their first two years finished already before they specialize in degree program.
Once again, nobody talks about why people are going to college. "Don't go to college if you can't afford it" say the people in the comment section. You might as well just tell people "Be happy with your minimum wage service job and don't attempt to make your life any better". Go look at job openings. If you want anything decent you need a degree, that's why everybody is going to college. Colleges haven't adjusted to the times and many of them are taking advantage of people. The days when you could get a job to support a family right out of highschool and work there for 50 years on good pay is over. It's long gone and the people in charge better wake the fuck up and realize what is going on before this gets any more out of hand. But knowing our government, they won't do that. Democrats and Republicans will probably fight over what to do for a few decades, like anything else. The problem will balloon out of proportion, in 40 years all the choices suck and we're fucked no matter what we do.
College degree is a new filtering mechanism. Even some receptionist jobs are requiring college degrees, which is insane.
Most people are saying don't go to college for a degree in a low paying field.
Make bare minimum at a job. "If you want to make more money go to school and better yourself for a better job.".
Go into debt for said schooling. "You fucking idiot. Why would you go into debt?!".
There are SO many people looking for jobs in my town and almost nothing exists here past the $10-$11 range for the first five years. With so many looking businesses can ask for whatever qualifications they please. There was one that wanted a degree, didn't matter in what, to be hired as a desk jockey--a secretary.
You can't go to college because you can't afford the debt, you can't afford to turn down any job, so you wind up working two or more in a low paying sector leaving you no time for school anyway, and you can't afford to move to a better market because you have no money. Vicious cycle.
Well a few solutions
1. make high school harder so that graduation means something
2. if you are going into a low paying field don't go to a expensive college clear
all through 12-17 i was told by everyone..my parents,teachers,guidance counselors that taking on any amount of debt was a good idea and "good debt" and by good debt they must have mean debt that can't disappear, cant go away through bankruptcy,like other debt
glad i didn't listen to them..
Wait. Of all of your comments none mention what the tour guide said about fancy atriums preparing you to go into the business world? I mean that is like saying eating mcdonalds prepares you to be their CEO.
I did a diploma here in Canada, paid it all in cash...work at night take classes in the afternoon...live with your parents while in school and work hard and grind and will end up with zero loan
Mr Ed that's how you do it, except you work a real job, pay for your on apartment, go to school at night. The problem is these fucking kids want to not work, party and fuck everything that moves, and get easy money while everyone tells them student loans are stupid but they do it anyway.
themrjones, paying for your own apartment is not necessarily wise unless you live in rural area. Either get roommates or live with your parents till you get through school and get a stable decent job.
I bet someone that the system will break in ten years
Ok OK so the first shit transplant bank is located is MASSATWOSHITS?! Holy shit that worked out PERFECT!
And to make matter worse the Dr. that invented the process is called Dr.AAS!
over 70k student debt here :( My degree allows me to save lives. I wish someone would save me from these loans
No, get a second job, pay your debt...
Pretty depressing. I'm graduating with 28k(small state school they cut you off after 30k for undergraduates). Luckily I'm info systems and commutable to the DC/NOVA area.
Dude got so awkward after he brought up the doc said she had a really clean colon lmfao. I love watching these awkward Vice guys try to interact with people and just fuckin biff it
Could've been fixed by Bernie.
Knowledge is power. How did we as America provide college at an acceptable cost before? What has risen the cost? Need some badass reporter like john stossell to investigate.
they should offer students free tuition for bags of healthy shit. This will solve several problems for all parties involved. you welcome