Wright Brothers Test Flight - Ft Myer (1909)
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- This film documents the official test flight of the Wright Brothers' military airplane at Fort Myer, Virginia.
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According to David McCullough's book on the Wright Brothers, this plane was new and untested when for flown for the Army at Ft. Myers. The plane required some tweaking and adjustments, mainly to the engine. Eventually it performed very well. The passenger was there because the Army contract required that the plane be able to carry two men. There were also speed and endurance requirements, all of which were exceeded. At this time, as Orville was demonstrating for the U.S. Army, Wilbur was in Europe performing demonstrations for representatives from many European countries. The McCullough book is highly recommended.
Wilbur was there at Ft. Myers in 1909.
Please note that the video is from one of several runs AFTER several previous successful (and not so successful) flights.
Seeing this is simply wonderful! Thanks for sharing!
Great video-thanks for posting.
I have seen short clips of this, but not the whole thing. Fantastic. Those guys really were heros. I wonder what the folks in the crowd were thinking? To me it would be kind of like seeing a space alien walking around.
are you still active on this yt acc 9 years later?
In 1909 airplanes were already a common thing.
Nice flight !
In 1907 the same demo was attempted and resulted in crash at Ft. Myer...guest rider died...Orville broke his femur..
+Clyde The Glide It was actually during the 1908 trials that Orville crashed. The "guest" was actually a lead aviation expert for the army Lt. Selfridge, who was part of the AEA.
+Guaca Mole The 2003 flying replica of Flyer I 1903 couldn't fly more than 115 feet (35 m)The 2003 accurate replica [ 1 ] of the Wright brothers' plane, tested on December 17, 1903, was not able to do more than short flights. None of its takeoffs came close to the claimed 59 seconds flight performed on December 17, 1903. What the 2003 experiment really showed was that the plane from 1903 could have been theoretically able to take off and fly chaotically for 100 - 115 feet, no more. Flyer I was uncontrollable and not capable to execute a sustained flight. The tests from 2003 demonstrated that the Wright brothers had exaggerated, at best, the performances of their claimed 1903, 59 seconds flight.
1) " On November 20, 2003, Dr. Kevin Kochersberger piloted the 1903 Wright Experience Replica Flyer. With 15-18 mph winds he flew a distance of nearly 100 feet. "2) " December 3, 2003 test flight of the Wright Experience 1903 Wright Flyer Replica. Dr. Kevin Kochersberger was at the controls and piloted the Flyer for a distance of 115 feet. Slight cross wind after initial rotation which is compensated with slight wing warp. "The instability of Flyer I had been already predicted by prof. Fred Culick who tested in the wind tunnel another replica, different from the one that flew in 2003:" "They built it and then drew as they went along," said Fred Culick, professor of aerodynamics at the California Institute of Technology and chief engineer on Cherne's team. …" Cherne's group, working mainly on weekends in a warehouse donated by a rocket company in El Segundo, finished what they considered an exact replica. Then in 1998 they tested it at NASA's Ames Research Center near Sunnyvale, Calif. Three weeks of wind-tunnel tests of their Wright Flyer replica "clearly showed how unstable it was and how it can't be flown safely," said Culick. "
Good comment. The crash was caused by equipment failure.
Neither Orville or his passenger were wearing helmets or seat belts.
Flying dreams...
The 2003 flying replica of Flyer I 1903 couldn't fly more than 115 feet (35 m)
The 2003 accurate replica [ 1 ] of the Wright brothers' plane, tested on December 17, 1903, was not able to do more than short flights. None of its takeoffs came close to the claimed 59 seconds flight performed on December 17, 1903. What the 2003 experiment really showed was that the plane from 1903 could have been theoretically able to take off and fly chaotically for 100 - 115 feet, no more. Flyer I was uncontrollable and not capable to execute a sustained flight. The tests from 2003 demonstrated that the Wright brothers had exaggerated, at best, the performances of their claimed 1903, 59 seconds flight.
Nov-20-2003-Flyer1Replica-100FeetFlight.jpg
Dec-3-2003-Flyer1Replica-115FeetFlight.jpg
1) " On November 20, 2003, Dr. Kevin Kochersberger piloted the 1903 Wright Experience Replica Flyer. With 15-18 mph winds he flew a distance of nearly 100 feet. " 2) " December 3, 2003 test flight of the Wright Experience 1903 Wright Flyer Replica. Dr. Kevin Kochersberger was at the controls and piloted the Flyer for a distance of 115 feet. Slight cross wind after initial rotation which is compensated with slight wing warp. "
The instability of Flyer I had been already predicted by prof. Fred Culick who tested in the wind tunnel another replica, different from the one that flew in 2003:
" "They built it and then drew as they went along," said Fred Culick, professor of aerodynamics at the California Institute of Technology and chief engineer on Cherne's team. …" Cherne's group, working mainly on weekends in a warehouse donated by a rocket company in El Segundo, finished what they considered an exact replica. Then in 1998 they tested it at NASA's Ames Research Center near Sunnyvale, Calif. Three weeks of wind-tunnel tests of their Wright Flyer replica "clearly showed how unstable it was and how it can't be flown safely," said Culick. "
Wonder how fast it was flying...
40-45 or so mph by most accounts
Those hanger doors are a bit unwieldy.
are you still active on this yt acc 9 years later?
Wait! How come there's no sound?
kidding :)
+vicenzo venicia The 2003 flying replica of Flyer I 1903 couldn't fly more than 115 feet (35 m)The 2003 accurate replica [ 1 ] of the Wright brothers' plane, tested on December 17, 1903, was not able to do more than short flights. None of its takeoffs came close to the claimed 59 seconds flight performed on December 17, 1903. What the 2003 experiment really showed was that the plane from 1903 could have been theoretically able to take off and fly chaotically for 100 - 115 feet, no more. Flyer I was uncontrollable and not capable to execute a sustained flight. The tests from 2003 demonstrated that the Wright brothers had exaggerated, at best, the performances of their claimed 1903, 59 seconds flight.
1) " On November 20, 2003, Dr. Kevin Kochersberger piloted the 1903 Wright Experience Replica Flyer. With 15-18 mph winds he flew a distance of nearly 100 feet. "2) " December 3, 2003 test flight of the Wright Experience 1903 Wright Flyer Replica. Dr. Kevin Kochersberger was at the controls and piloted the Flyer for a distance of 115 feet. Slight cross wind after initial rotation which is compensated with slight wing warp. "The instability of Flyer I had been already predicted by prof. Fred Culick who tested in the wind tunnel another replica, different from the one that flew in 2003:" "They built it and then drew as they went along," said Fred Culick, professor of aerodynamics at the California Institute of Technology and chief engineer on Cherne's team. …" Cherne's group, working mainly on weekends in a warehouse donated by a rocket company in El Segundo, finished what they considered an exact replica. Then in 1998 they tested it at NASA's Ames Research Center near Sunnyvale, Calif. Three weeks of wind-tunnel tests of their Wright Flyer replica "clearly showed how unstable it was and how it can't be flown safely," said Culick. "
@@baratabarata6212 Thanks for the excellent summary. No one claims that the 1903 Wright Flyer was faultless. It was unstable and difficult to fly for anyone and certainly for anyone who lacked 100+ hours of practice on a glider of the same design. Most of the 4 original flights were closer to 100 ft. rather than Wilbur's 852 ft. (59 sec.) flight This flight looks like something of a fluke under unusually good flying conditions on that day at Kitty Hawk.
However, if I was going to lie about the flight, why would I admit in a telegram that it lasted less than 1 min?
Check out Dr. Kochersberger talk on early gliders at
www.slideshare.net/GliderPilotOrg/aerial-inventions-in-motorless-flight-ssa-2011-banquet-presentation-by-
dr-kevin-kochersberge
The failure to fly 852 ft. in 2003 is not proof that the original flyer under better flying conditions couldn't. It just shows the claim has not been proven.
Also check out the later 115ft. flight on Dec. 3, 2003.
wright-brothers.wdfiles.com/local--files/start/Dec-3-2003-Flyer1Replica-115FeetFlight.jpg
These test flights indicate what they hoped to do on the Centennial.
The difference was the available headwinds. 15 mph vs. near zero.
The test flights were both under 120 ft. vs. the reported 852 ft. for the 4th flight (59sec) for the original wright flyer. The inability to match the 852 ft. flight does not prove that the Wilbur's 1903 telegram was a lie. It means that the flight abilities of the replica of a replica were not proven to match the Dec. 1903 flight.
It's really sad for them that JATOs weren't invented back then... how much further do you think they could have gone with a JATO strapped to the Wright Flyer... lol
#flatearthnews
+Meiers Daniel The 2003 flying replica of Flyer I 1903 couldn't fly more than 115 feet (35 m)The 2003 accurate replica [ 1 ] of the Wright brothers' plane, tested on December 17, 1903, was not able to do more than short flights. None of its takeoffs came close to the claimed 59 seconds flight performed on December 17, 1903. What the 2003 experiment really showed was that the plane from 1903 could have been theoretically able to take off and fly chaotically for 100 - 115 feet, no more. Flyer I was uncontrollable and not capable to execute a sustained flight. The tests from 2003 demonstrated that the Wright brothers had exaggerated, at best, the performances of their claimed 1903, 59 seconds flight.
1) " On November 20, 2003, Dr. Kevin Kochersberger piloted the 1903 Wright Experience Replica Flyer. With 15-18 mph winds he flew a distance of nearly 100 feet. "2) " December 3, 2003 test flight of the Wright Experience 1903 Wright Flyer Replica. Dr. Kevin Kochersberger was at the controls and piloted the Flyer for a distance of 115 feet. Slight cross wind after initial rotation which is compensated with slight wing warp. "The instability of Flyer I had been already predicted by prof. Fred Culick who tested in the wind tunnel another replica, different from the one that flew in 2003:" "They built it and then drew as they went along," said Fred Culick, professor of aerodynamics at the California Institute of Technology and chief engineer on Cherne's team. …" Cherne's group, working mainly on weekends in a warehouse donated by a rocket company in El Segundo, finished what they considered an exact replica. Then in 1998 they tested it at NASA's Ames Research Center near Sunnyvale, Calif. Three weeks of wind-tunnel tests of their Wright Flyer replica "clearly showed how unstable it was and how it can't be flown safely," said Culick. "
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@@baratabarata6212 The 2003 test flight of the 1903 replica of a replica did not prove that the original flyer could not fly over 115 ft. It did not prove that it couldn't fly over 115 ft. It only proved that it didn't in the 2003 tests.