It is I debated on naruto kcm vs ms sauske I was winning the debate but then he pulls out this bullshit argument and because he was just kept yelling over me I lost
@@yourwrongandhereswhy9796 he also goes into name-calling and child like insults, which is so annoying. And it's a sign that he ls losing and he knows it haha
The argument he used was that the raikage was bloodlusted so therefore he was stronger and as soon as I asked him to prove that being bloddlusted makes his ap or any of his attacks stronger
@@KloutGawdKhaos he conceded once he said sakura didnt have hax like sasuke and naruto and that it has no relevance he basically conceded his entire argument D1 wins
Spencers point make sense, but it's easy to debunk. All you have to say is its headcanon because we haven't seen her do it. Idk why he just didn't say that🤣
@Onizuka Ekichi it doesn’t matter if these characters have fought or not. You need feats to back up your statements. That’s like saying sasuke can use all of the rinnegan abilities without actually displaying them lmao
I would agree with this statement. I think it's hilarious this man says flying is doing nothing while moving through the air effortlessly. Like bro birds fly. Airplanes fly. I'm quite sure they're doing stuff while they're up there
~44:00 - talk about arguing about the pointless. it doesnt matter when the statement was made. kaguya got a massive power and speed boost after she absorbed chakra from the people (again). so, literally any time after absorbtion is fine. hell, a statement is not even entirely necessary as the powerup is clearly shown, its just narrative.
I thought about it and I realized the perfect refutation to the argument that Sakura can do the same things as Guy because of her strength. The strength of her punches is based on her focusing chakra into her fist and then releasing it on impact which is why they're so destructive. And in the war the reason her punches did so much more damage was because he gained access to an extremely large amount of chakra allowing her to put more chakra into her punches. That alone proves that through actual physical strength she's not on the same level as Guy. And there's also the fact Sakura caused no concern to Madara when she went to punch him as a distraction so that Naruto and Sasuke can fight him, while earlier on Guy actually surprised Madara. And considering how Madara casually blocked Sakura that also proves she's not stronger. It's impossible to prove she's stronger when she couldn't do anything against him.
@@CFSpener The way Guy hits it's different. Sakura focuses chakra into her fist then releases it. But with Guy using the gates it's flooding his whole body with chakra releasing the limitors on his body drastically increasing his brute strength all around. And if it worked the way you're saying then Guy should have chakra control relative to Sakura. But the gates work completely differently. And a lot of Guy's power is mainly based on his own physical strength and speed just being boosted by an insane degree. Like how with Night Guy while there was a Dragon around Guy's body, the only part that had any affect was Guy's kick hitting him. And there's also the fact that Guy was bending space. And how Sakura has shown no capability to use moves like Guy's
I think Sakura can fly. Guy didn't use any hacks other than pumping up his chakra power and speed. Sakura probably is stronger due to scaling and she'd be able to at least jump ridiculously high and control her trajectory with punches or kicks. Maybe not as good as guy but still stronger
@@mkbthekid2041 What was said techniques name and what did it do? Go figure it out for me cause I'm pretty sure he was kicking air with immense speed and strength enough to make him seemingly fly. This would be the equivalent of not being able to sweep because it's a "technique" kicking and jumping comes basic to humans
@@feltysaquaria819 I said it was a guy techinque specifically because it 1. Was only used by guy 2. Only used in eighth gate,. It feels weird to say that “if guy can do it, everyone can” knowing that unique versions of basic ninja abilities like shisui’s body flicker exist.
@@mkbthekid2041 I mean I guess but that would kinda help the argument for it. Like Sakura could make her own version of the technique. Guy also is not really a technical fighter. Most of the 8 gate techniques are just him flexing his power like a DBZ character. So I would imagine someone with better physical feats and way better chakra control most likely should be able to replicate it. Even if it's a different "version". Also not anyone can do it just anyone who can punch and kick as hard as guy. Pretty small list really.
@@feltysaquaria819 that’s almost all jutsu tho. For example, sasuke has more then enough chakra to learn all of naruto’s jutsu and use them himself. But it doesn’t mean he has all of narutos jutsu, just that it is possible. The characters in naruto COULD achieve a lot of things if they really wanted to. But they simply don’t.
Does anyone else notice the debate wording that always seems to be used no matter who it is? I didn’t know exactly how to describe it, but I am talking about where they speak a sentence and then say “right” then a sentence and then “right” again lol
Hey guys, I really love the idea of these Naruto debates but why does it seem like every video I come across, the debators are just absurdly rude and immature? It's just not fun to listen to, especially when the side you agree with is arguing in a way you don't agree with. If anyone could point me in the direction of Naruto debates that really trade power scaling analyzation instead of ad hominems, that would be dope.
Why didn’t D1 talk about the fact that a weaker version of madara was easily pushing Sakura back and she couldn’t even touch him and how of that weaker version could easily deal with Sakura then he should be able to beat her in his 3 eyed form???
@@mylesthomas6631 that was 3 eyed wasnt it? No that was before the infinite tsukuyomi. Wel at that point we dont really know that the third eye amps his stats in the least
@@monoichi5827 yes it does. It places an entity from a different dimension between them. Which is undetectable by people without six paths chakra. Like I said hax.
D1 is using circular reasoning, I'm kinda tipsy rn and I can still see that, that's like saying sage Naruto but still needed a rasengan to damage madaras ribcage while tsunade using 100 healings can damage it with a punch so she should be stronger than sage mode Naruto already
Personally I think Sakura beats Madara, just not three eyed god tree Madara. She definitely could do all the pre juubi versions and the one that fought Guy. Just cause of Juubi
why doesnt anyone when arguing for sakura say sakura preforms this feat fatigued and in base insinuating she has more potential ap then the feat presented also in terms of adult sakura shes not hindering herself by constraining her age when tsunade was while still being able to break madaras susanoo which means sakura has more chakra output than tsunade does and sakura has so6p naruto levels of chakra more or less at least in her 100 healing state as stated by obito
Bro that's what I've been arguing in these adult sakura vs polls lately finally someone who literally knows and understands the depths of her scaling 😂😂😂
@@Grimplays185 bro I’m mindblown nobody even mentions this she’s a fkn tank her durability is bijuu dama + level AP is mountain ++ (maybe low ball) in base and her base chakra reserves are actually insane like one of the highest in the series
Because people don't want to imply or scale Sakura as the strongest character in Shippuden. Even though she basically is via the implications of fatigue and not using 100 healings anymore. Which is also hilarious.
Boil release gives you and amp in power and speed and cuts cellular even if she does scales off an higher version of naruto doesn’t give her more win cons goku scales higher than ywach from bleach but lacks the hax to beat him
What hack does Madara have that would protect against really high AP though? I'm pretty sure the characters that gave him a run for his money didn't use too many hacks. Guy was punching him with physical attacks amped by chakra and the gates and did alot of damage. Sakura can do that without the gates and probably for way longer. Plus she can regenerate from some pretty nasty attacks and has decent durability in the kaguya fight. Idk if she wins but I think it's alot closer fight than people think. She's stupid strong at the end of the series most people overlook it
@@vlonedebo8796 All you have to do is argue Goku would speed Blitz Yhwach which he has the speed to do, then Goku could just use Hakai and erase him from existence.
@@AskinNukkLeVarr lol thanks for bodying on that. I don't really know much about DB Super so decided not to engage him on that but I was definitely thinking Goku has way higher stats. So high I'm questioning what ywachs kill condition would even be.
@@an0rangutan there's no proof that she's faster or stronger. Especially considering how much Madara did to avoid Guy's hits, but when dealing with Sakura and her punches he casually stopped her then blocked it. And that was Sakura in her strongest form, yet he casually dealt with her and with abilities he had when he fought Guy. So it's not like Madara used abilities against her he couldn't against Guy.
Adult sakura > momo > kin > Cho> shin> last Naruto > last sasuke > EOS naruto > EOS sasuke> toneri=kaguya>DMS kakashi>EOS sakura > Sixpath Kcm+sage Naruto > Base six Naruto > juubidara ~ 8th gates guy.
@@jimmy89758what you would inherently be claiming is that this fatigued sasuke without his tomoe is of the same level of fatigue as the sasuke that fought kinshiki even if I entertained sasuke being fatigued against Kinshiki
1) 1 eyed rinnegan kamui madara perception blitz a stronga sakura 2) 2 eyed rinnegan madara stabbed a stronga sakura 3) sakura only blitz kaguya due to circumstances ( 1 jumpin out of kakashi susanoo 2 naruto n sasuke cornerin kaguya 3 zetsu bein separated from her ) n also movin downwards amps ur speed das how gravity works n also u can argue dat kaguya let sakura punch her so she can get away from naruto n sasuke 4) sakura couldnt out run a biju arm 5) she has no immunity to reg TS or ITS 6) nothin proves dat she can punch thro a PS
The Madara that guy fought was 1 eyed pre god tree absorbed Madara. The Madara Sakura fought was 2 eyed god tree absorbed Madara. It was stated multiple times that if Madara gets his last rinnegan he will become way more powerful than his 1 eyed self. 2 eyed Madara used limbo on Sakura when in his battle against guy he never once used limbo not even against night guy. When Madara absorbed the god tree after he fought guy it gave him a huge amp where he could fight Naruto and Sasuke in their transformed states. This was 1 eyed Madara post god tree absorbed btw. Sakura fought 2 eyed god tree Madara. And Sakura forced 2 eyed Madara to use limbo where in his fight against guy he never used limbo. Sakura>guy
so lets say for example naruto fights kakashi put didnt use a shadow clone to try n block attacks but den used a shadow clone to block an attack from konohamru kakashi>konohamaru ?
@@user-uj4gy8bt2b take this shit EMS madara > 5 kage > onoki > boruto onoki (old) > ku> koratsuchi ~ kinshiki ~ momoshiki Conclusion : EMS madara one shots both momoshiki and kinshiki at the same fking time
@@christianphrenger7902 Except he was right that Sakura isn't stronger than Madara. If Sakura was stronger than Madara then there would be absolutely no reason to give Naruto and Sasuke power ups, it's as simple as that
@@christianphrenger7902 yeah they needed those power ups to fight the Otsutsuki, but they were given those powers specifically because they needed them to fight Madara, so if Sakura was stronger than Madara by herself than Naruto and Sasuke wouldn't have needed that power because Sakura could've won by herself, but she was nowhere near strong enough to fight let alone beat Madara. Think about it logically. If Sakura was strong enough to beat Madara, then why was it so important that Naruto and Sasuke needed the powers they gained to beat him?
@@nathanmorgan3457 Bro Your Comparing War Arc Sakura To Adult Sakura While Forgetting alot Of Context That Puts Adult Sakura Relative to Naruto & Sasuke Meaning She Should Scale Above Madara Logically As Even Adult Sasuke Says He Beileves Him Or Naruto Could Solo A kaguya Level threat Individually Meaning If Sakura Scales Relative to them Over the years of Training She Would Scale Over Madara Who By Teen Sasukes Words Is Nothing In Compairson To Kaguyas Power…
I don’t think Sakura has any good scaling in Boruto. I guess you can say she should be above her daughter. You can then apply Sarada’s physical feats to Sakura and say she is unquantifiably above. I don’t know if I’m missing anything
@@angrydaniel2905 sakuras scaling in boruto mainly comes from her shinden novel where she scales to at least 2 times sanin level in the last, then you can just say shes like fatigued sauske level., which is kinda crazy considering that fatuiged sauske fought kinshiki but thats not the point. I just say that boruto sakura is like stronger than orochimaru in base by at least 2 times and can possibly be like sage jiraya level
Madara can literally beat the shit out of Sakura with limbo clones and while they're at it, he can just launch the infinite genjutusu and win, why is this even a video
If she can blitz Kaguya she will blitz the SHIT out of Madara…Ur right, why is this a video? Sakura stomps NEGATIVE difficulty…We can debate it if you want
@@AyeeShaad Ah yes, a distracted Kaguya by Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi got speed blitzed. It’s not Sakura was accidentally covering her escape options. That’s a not a speed blitz.
@@ułttimate kaguya was not distracted she’s in six paths and she previously got amped it’s stated by zetsu…if naruto can sense the war happening across the entire continent in a weaker form of sage mode kaguya is and should be able to sense sakura at point blank range…u can imply that she has the strongest form of sage mode other than naruto in all of shippuden
@@ułttimate he didn’t focus😂😂…once he walked out of the sealing tags in sage mode all of that came rushing towards him…u gotta study the material bro😂😂🤦🏽♂️
Arguing sakura can fly by kicking the air even though shes never done that is stupid. It requires a lot of energy to do that so shes gonna be winding herself out just to get to Madara. It doesnt matter if sakura hits harder, it doesn’t mean she can propel herself off the air like gai did. When gai does it, hes using a lot of energy and intensity that sakura isn’t capable of expending. She has power but not the energy. If she had nine tails chakra, then maybe she can do it for a bit but notice whats going on inside gai’s body to allow him to do that. Thats not going on inside Sakura.. lol Nor does it mean she can weaponize air pressure like gai. Especially not how he does it, like hitting someone with air pressure from different angles.. nah.. gai may also be emitting more energy in his punches in order to accomplish punching sharp air columns into the air. To say sakura can do what gai needed to open 8 gates to do and sacrifice his whole life to accomplish is also kinda disrespectful, but just untrue that she can do in first place lol Sakura hurting kaguya also doesn’t automatically give her a badge… where does it indicate shes all that durable? Sakura also had the benefit of being underestimated and kaguyas attention drawn away from her cuz of naruto and sasuke lol plus gravity.. Kaguya didnt seem to sense her until she got closer, but i think kaguya was moreso surprised sakura would even make a stand against her. People mention the broken horn but thats made of the same material juubidara easily breaks off of his head to reveal his rinnesharingan.
You literally just needlessly assumed that gai is using chakra to manipulate the air when the opposite is stated. It’s stated that the only thing gai did was output force, what we saw was the result of that level of force on the air, so if I can prove she has the necessary force for it, she can do it. That sumple
@@CFSpener hey there spencer, i did not expect you to be responding that quick. You must check back this video a lot. This video was intense for sure. Did i say chakra? not chakra necessarily, a derivative of it, actual energy. Its long been established the eight inner gates requires intense physical effort, intense physical effort sakura isn’t trained to output. Not same intensity to go with the power of her punches. its gotta be moreso a product of pure energy that drives the power of inner gates, thats just pure physical energy the release of all his chakra limiters allows him to do. Literally using all the energy stored in the body to attack. Like hes accomplishing what hes doing with energy because all his chakra limiters are released and hes using his own body as the energy source as a suicide move. Sakura isn’t reproducing that. Its fun to think about but nah… lol As far as the air column punching thing, i mean i see the logic your using and if she can provide the necessary force its always possible, but i think speed of strike is also needed as well and is another factor to consider. Gai strikes fast and hard and with inhumane intensity at the expense of his own body. Besides force, to literally accomplish that. Like gai literally punches SHARP distinguished air columns into the air. To make such sharp air columns that charge in one direction and to move air like that, you would need a lot of power, energy, and speed. Js i have reason to believe its not as cut and dry as just amount of force generated. She can produce powerful shockwaves but she doesn’t have the intensity and speed behind her strikes as well. And again, this is all besides the fact that if she could even do this, she’d be hauling ass just to try to get to Madara who goes air borne effortlessly. This would be just to try to attack him. lol Even if we wanna debate and get others to believe sakura can do these things, arguing she can beat juubidara after getting to him in the air is an uphill battle. straight everest XD
Doesn't matter if the limbo clones are in a different dimension he can sense them and still get caught lacking same with Kaguya that argument is irrelevant tbh
Wait, are these guys friends? Why tf is that dude talking to the other guy like that? Calling him a bitch and all, I hope they are friends joking around.
He tried saying Might Guy kick barley dented the God tree But Naruto technique Cut it down and than try to say Sakura is on par with Naruto lmaoo hell nahh this whole debate was a waste D1 won in the argument with Kaguya being caught off gaurd wich was irrelevant cause Madara can do that same feat faxts we all know it . The only relevant argument was the last and D1 won that 1
he made the argument that kaguya wasnt off guard, and it was amazing and a good feat that kaguya was punched down by sakura. first of all kaguya was off guard, she didnt even know saskura was coming and had eyes on naruto and sasuke. second, kaguya was flying up to the direction of sakura and sakura was flying down towards kaguya, im sure you know how gravity and physics work, if something is flying up and another thing is flying down the thing flying down would have more of an impact. this doesnt mean much at all tbh its not that good of a feat and i still dont see how sakura is the same strength of greater then 8 gate guy.
Yeah bro. Kaguya who literally has 360 degrees vision and nature-amped sensory capacity somehow "didn't know" Sakura was coming and somehow got caught "off-guard" by it. LMAO. Don't try to argue when you don't even know what abilities the characters have.
@@shinji136 You're dumber than you think lol. 1. Neither Kaguya nor any Byakugan user has shown that their Byakugan grants them 360° vision, they all have a Blindspot which has been proven since Naruto. 2. The Byakugan can be blitzed, just like any Sharingan and Rinnegan user. Sakura blitzing Kaguya isn't an outlier and makes sense. Your immature hate over Sakura blinds you from the fact that she speed blitzed the strongest character in Shippuden, a version stronger than both six path Naruto and Sasuke. She also did more damage to that Kaguya than Six path Naruto's tailed beast rasenshuriken barrage.
@@shinji136 u do remember naruto and sasuke going to hit her as well right??? so do you think she shouldve ignored sasuke and naruto who are both stronger then sakura and let them hit her or her focus on them first, there wasnt much she couldve 360 vision or not its that simple
@@wmpraudio She had already dodged Naruto and Sasuke at that moment, lol. And even if she hadn't, it's not like it's a binary of either she deals with Sakura or she deals with Naruto and Sasuke, since she has tools to deal with all of them. If Sakura wasn't that strong then Kaguya could just have blitzed and dealt with her with her hair alone while she has every other tool from chakra arms to all-shattering bones to continue dealing with Naruto and Sasuke. And yet she couldn't, she got hit by Sakura even with that, her 360 degrees vision and six paths amped nature perception.
So basically this debate went nowhere. Personally I only have two points (I'm using anime only). What can Adult Sakura do against Madaras limbo clones, and what makes her faster than Madara? If she's faster than Madara she can blitz him but I can't remember her being anywhere near him in speed (and yes I know about the light novel thing but im only comfortable using the anime). I'm confident shes hits harder than or at minimum as hard as him and that she'll be able to break parts of his susanoo. If tsunade broke it then Sakura definitely can. But if limbo clones have the same abilities as the original, can't they all use susanoo? And if so what can Sakura even do if she can't sense them? I also wanna throw this out there just as thought, but maybe the reason Kaguya was hit by Sakura was because either she couldn't dodge or she forgot she was there. I mean she was occupied with naruto and sasuke (They're the ones who can seal her after all) so I can see that happening. But this is just head cannon.
If your comfortable with the databooks then it’s stated that sakura is equal to naruto and obito also says that sakura with her byakugo seal has more than enough chakra to power his kamui while naruto does not ( chakra= power and speed) so that means sakura is above Madara
@@omnipayne861 fake news ! Databook said not inferior ( which is not specific on what that is )and it was never stated she had more chakra than naruto clone. She has no feats proving she is on naruto and sasuke level or mountain level.
@@solidj4032 obito said that she had more chakra than a naruto clone. These shadow clones could fight Madaras limbo clones which are as strong as the real Madara. She was stated in the data books “now that she’s caught up shell never fall behind even in collaboration with the two of them” in another databook this is referring to power since she caught up with their strength. The other statement “not being inferior” also means strength since I’ve already shown consistency with the feats and statements and you would have to give an interpretation that is more valid to disprove that this statement is referring to power.
@@omnipayne861 again obito never said she had more chakra that's a fact. Madara limbo clone easily blocked her but were pushed back by naruto clones. Fact Saying she's not inferior means nothing without evidence. She embarrassed herself rushing madara, she was so scared of madara she forgot to breathe and she was called useless by sasuke which no one disagreed. Just fact! Go back and read the manga because you sound just as stupid as spencer with all your delusional information that's not in the manga
@@solidj4032 your not disproving me. Go look at the start of the kaguya fight where obito is speaking to naruto and Sakura and how to retrieve sauske, narutos clone offers to go with him and he says “you don’t have enough chakra. And sauske offers and he says “it’s more than enough”
Any human being that debates D1 deserves a trophy 🏆 👏
Debating this guy has to be mad irritating
It is I debated on naruto kcm vs ms sauske I was winning the debate but then he pulls out this bullshit argument and because he was just kept yelling over me I lost
@@yourwrongandhereswhy9796 he also goes into name-calling and child like insults, which is so annoying. And it's a sign that he ls losing and he knows it haha
i debate people worse than him everyday lol
The argument he used was that the raikage was bloodlusted so therefore he was stronger and as soon as I asked him to prove that being bloddlusted makes his ap or any of his attacks stronger
@@yourwrongandhereswhy9796 You shouldn’t have let him control the debate like that damn, and did you contest the judgement or nah
D1 adding to his L collection
Dude was so dumb I had to pause multiple times to process the sheer depths of his moronic arguments in between is bouts of rabid screaming
He needs a tune up against anti-itachi🤣🤣🤣
D1 is actually winning the other guy is making in valid points tbh
@@1ccfkennels-Explain?
@@KloutGawdKhaos he conceded once he said sakura didnt have hax like sasuke and naruto and that it has no relevance he basically conceded his entire argument D1 wins
He said Sakura can’t fly and I knew what was gonna happen lmao
D1 has to be a troll, i wont accept otherwise🤣
Spencers point make sense, but it's easy to debunk. All you have to say is its headcanon because we haven't seen her do it. Idk why he just didn't say that🤣
@Onizuka Ekichi yes, it is. You’re just a fan boy and you don’t know how arguments work
@Onizuka Ekichi it doesn’t matter if these characters have fought or not. You need feats to back up your statements. That’s like saying sasuke can use all of the rinnegan abilities without actually displaying them lmao
It’s not at all headcanon though?
D1 is so unbelievably frustrating in this lol, just constantly talking over everyone and not allowing anyone else to say anything contrary to him
I’m pretty sure being able to “fly” by kicking the air is called pseudo-flight
I would agree with this statement. I think it's hilarious this man says flying is doing nothing while moving through the air effortlessly. Like bro birds fly. Airplanes fly. I'm quite sure they're doing stuff while they're up there
@@feltysaquaria819 indeed
It's practically being volant.
@@feltysaquaria819 I thought about that too. His definition of flying meant birds can’t actually fly lol
It doesn’t matter at all if she is technically flying, she can get up to him.
D1’s argument about spirits existing physically is stupid asf
“we know sakura can’t fly”
spencer: oh oh really?
*instant flashbacks to anti itachi vs spencer*
D1 Didn’t Do Any Better At Arguing Against It Either 😂😂😂 I Feel Like He Had A Harder Time Understanding Spencer Than Anti Did…
U know where the sensory scan is about being one with the 10 ten tails
Anyone have the sensory scan showing that kaguya has the same sensory as naruto
~44:00 - talk about arguing about the pointless. it doesnt matter when the statement was made. kaguya got a massive power and speed boost after she absorbed chakra from the people (again). so, literally any time after absorbtion is fine. hell, a statement is not even entirely necessary as the powerup is clearly shown, its just narrative.
I thought about it and I realized the perfect refutation to the argument that Sakura can do the same things as Guy because of her strength. The strength of her punches is based on her focusing chakra into her fist and then releasing it on impact which is why they're so destructive. And in the war the reason her punches did so much more damage was because he gained access to an extremely large amount of chakra allowing her to put more chakra into her punches. That alone proves that through actual physical strength she's not on the same level as Guy. And there's also the fact Sakura caused no concern to Madara when she went to punch him as a distraction so that Naruto and Sasuke can fight him, while earlier on Guy actually surprised Madara. And considering how Madara casually blocked Sakura that also proves she's not stronger. It's impossible to prove she's stronger when she couldn't do anything against him.
Guy focuses his chakra in his strikes too. It’s not raw physical strength
@@CFSpener The way Guy hits it's different. Sakura focuses chakra into her fist then releases it. But with Guy using the gates it's flooding his whole body with chakra releasing the limitors on his body drastically increasing his brute strength all around. And if it worked the way you're saying then Guy should have chakra control relative to Sakura. But the gates work completely differently. And a lot of Guy's power is mainly based on his own physical strength and speed just being boosted by an insane degree. Like how with Night Guy while there was a Dragon around Guy's body, the only part that had any affect was Guy's kick hitting him. And there's also the fact that Guy was bending space. And how Sakura has shown no capability to use moves like Guy's
@@CFSpener And considering how him doing it is a specific technique based heavily on his physical strength, it's different
@@nathanmorgan3457 good god you dropped so much logic and facts that I'm having a seizure. Its great to see an intelligent person in the comments
@Arther fleck it's click bait at this point for views. No evidence for Sakura to say something so ridiculous
D1 is possibly the absolutely worse debater of ALL TIME😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 THIS CANNOT BE REALL 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Debate him
@@heartlessjay490 no
@@Wavedashnoir then shut up
Spencer: let's make this under 45 minutes
Video length: 1 hour and 9 minutes
Stfu
@@itachisucks6693 🤡
Seriously why do people debate D1 lol
glad this debate got uploaded, had to leave half way through
And I missed the first half
Can you send me the link to this server
@@footy743 sry that server got nuked or something
@@badassproductions4734 oh I see
I love how this is a "debate" when the "fight" already happened in the manga.
Took under 5 minutes for D1 to start yelling...
The sperg queen had to act in character
I think Sakura can fly. Guy didn't use any hacks other than pumping up his chakra power and speed. Sakura probably is stronger due to scaling and she'd be able to at least jump ridiculously high and control her trajectory with punches or kicks. Maybe not as good as guy but still stronger
but guy used a technique, he didn't just kick air, it was a taijutsu.
@@mkbthekid2041 What was said techniques name and what did it do? Go figure it out for me cause I'm pretty sure he was kicking air with immense speed and strength enough to make him seemingly fly. This would be the equivalent of not being able to sweep because it's a "technique" kicking and jumping comes basic to humans
@@feltysaquaria819 I said it was a guy techinque specifically because it 1. Was only used by guy 2. Only used in eighth gate,. It feels weird to say that “if guy can do it, everyone can” knowing that unique versions of basic ninja abilities like shisui’s body flicker exist.
@@mkbthekid2041 I mean I guess but that would kinda help the argument for it. Like Sakura could make her own version of the technique. Guy also is not really a technical fighter. Most of the 8 gate techniques are just him flexing his power like a DBZ character. So I would imagine someone with better physical feats and way better chakra control most likely should be able to replicate it. Even if it's a different "version". Also not anyone can do it just anyone who can punch and kick as hard as guy. Pretty small list really.
@@feltysaquaria819 that’s almost all jutsu tho. For example, sasuke has more then enough chakra to learn all of naruto’s jutsu and use them himself. But it doesn’t mean he has all of narutos jutsu, just that it is possible. The characters in naruto COULD achieve a lot of things if they really wanted to. But they simply don’t.
Yeah this man confusing flying with levitating. Flying stuff does"something" the whole time it's up there
Bruh kabuki and D1 need to be in a debate with each other would be the only time they are facing someone on their level
D1 is just to toxic
I'm more toxic😎
He is funny asf tho
@@s.a9764 fax
Does anyone else notice the debate wording that always seems to be used no matter who it is? I didn’t know exactly how to describe it, but I am talking about where they speak a sentence and then say “right” then a sentence and then “right” again lol
bro D1 sperged so hard he turned into busta rhymes 😂
D1 sounds like a middle school teenage girl when he rage quits
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31:28
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I wonder how many times d1 said right😭😂
1.6 trillion approximately
14:57 Yo guys I think Spencer is speaking
Lmao
Why are people so rude in debates? Like, at least try to be respectful, wait your turn, no need to insult.
Fr, it's a debate not an argument
This shit was way to funny You killed D1 but his packing was hella funny💀
Adult sakura>kaguya>jubidara>8th gates guy
No lmao
Sakura doesn't scale to kaguya at all
@KMZ23 lmaoo
@@muigoku559 Sakura has higher AP than Kaguya's durability, Kaguya can sustain her own AP which is planetary, therefore Sakura has planetary AP
@KMZ23 debate them in discord
Hey guys, I really love the idea of these Naruto debates but why does it seem like every video I come across, the debators are just absurdly rude and immature? It's just not fun to listen to, especially when the side you agree with is arguing in a way you don't agree with. If anyone could point me in the direction of Naruto debates that really trade power scaling analyzation instead of ad hominems, that would be dope.
D1 yells and complains about the smallest shit lmao
He's the sperg queen
Why didn’t D1 talk about the fact that a weaker version of madara was easily pushing Sakura back and she couldn’t even touch him and how of that weaker version could easily deal with Sakura then he should be able to beat her in his 3 eyed form???
Remind me where that happenes
Limbo nullifies taijutsu. He “easily” pushed her back through hax.
@@mylesthomas6631 that was 3 eyed wasnt it? No that was before the infinite tsukuyomi. Wel at that point we dont really know that the third eye amps his stats in the least
@@mylesthomas6631 also limbo doesnt necessarily nullify taijutsu, just gives you a clone to block with
@@monoichi5827 yes it does. It places an entity from a different dimension between them. Which is undetectable by people without six paths chakra. Like I said hax.
I’m sorry but the over use of the nword is killing me all of y’all are white saying it I’m sleep 😭😭😭
Spener is black...
Damn this was entertaining, I gotta start watching more debates. Also you have top Naruto knowledge, so I’m gonna sub and check out your videos.
30:08 killed him💀
There's no point in debating with narcissist like D1 bruh isn't going to even make an attempt to understand anything you're going to tell him
Just listening to D1 pisses me off lol
ohh boi first thing i hear .... under 45 minutes ...we at 1 hour and 9 .... boutta be interesting
Mommy Sakura😍 > 3 eyes madara 🙄
D1 is using circular reasoning, I'm kinda tipsy rn and I can still see that, that's like saying sage Naruto but still needed a rasengan to damage madaras ribcage while tsunade using 100 healings can damage it with a punch so she should be stronger than sage mode Naruto already
D1 nooooo how you gonna say she recognise her at the last moment 😭😭😭 12:50
Personally I think Sakura beats Madara, just not three eyed god tree Madara. She definitely could do all the pre juubi versions and the one that fought Guy. Just cause of Juubi
D1 just can’t debate cause how do you lose this debate when madara is clearly stronger 😂
well nah madara is way weaker
@@guyhathansaintil5218 yep 💀
We going by feats Sakura takes it bro 👀
It should be illegal to compare these characters. All you can do is go in circles fr
why doesnt anyone when arguing for sakura say sakura preforms this feat fatigued and in base insinuating she has more potential ap then the feat presented also in terms of adult sakura shes not hindering herself by constraining her age when tsunade was while still being able to break madaras susanoo which means sakura has more chakra output than tsunade does and sakura has so6p naruto levels of chakra more or less at least in her 100 healing state as stated by obito
Bro that's what I've been arguing in these adult sakura vs polls lately finally someone who literally knows and understands the depths of her scaling 😂😂😂
@@Grimplays185 bro I’m mindblown nobody even mentions this she’s a fkn tank her durability is bijuu dama + level AP is mountain ++ (maybe low ball) in base and her base chakra reserves are actually insane like one of the highest in the series
@@t2nexx561 FACTS
@@t2nexx561 Adult Sakura is just a new animal at this point
Because people don't want to imply or scale Sakura as the strongest character in Shippuden.
Even though she basically is via the implications of fatigue and not using 100 healings anymore.
Which is also hilarious.
If I'm being honest this whole video was just a waste of time
Can we talk about how the lava shuriken is literally Naruto in 6 path base. Meaning Sakura would scale to an even more powerful Naruto right?
Boil release gives you and amp in power and speed and cuts cellular even if she does scales off an higher version of naruto doesn’t give her more win cons goku scales higher than ywach from bleach but lacks the hax to beat him
What hack does Madara have that would protect against really high AP though? I'm pretty sure the characters that gave him a run for his money didn't use too many hacks. Guy was punching him with physical attacks amped by chakra and the gates and did alot of damage. Sakura can do that without the gates and probably for way longer. Plus she can regenerate from some pretty nasty attacks and has decent durability in the kaguya fight. Idk if she wins but I think it's alot closer fight than people think. She's stupid strong at the end of the series most people overlook it
@@vlonedebo8796 Now if Madara had plot manipulation, reality manipulation, or whatever you wanna classify ywachs power as I would see what you mean
@@vlonedebo8796 All you have to do is argue Goku would speed Blitz Yhwach which he has the speed to do, then Goku could just use Hakai and erase him from existence.
@@AskinNukkLeVarr lol thanks for bodying on that. I don't really know much about DB Super so decided not to engage him on that but I was definitely thinking Goku has way higher stats. So high I'm questioning what ywachs kill condition would even be.
13:32 was the greatest loud mic ever
1:08:45 Best conclusion ever 🤣🤣🤣
😂
Were you just playing devil's advocate, or do you actually think war arc Sakura beats 3 eyed Madara?
Sakura being literally the strongest character in Shippuden.
That's not true though
@@nathanmorgan3457 Why not?
@@an0rangutan because we've seen characters like Guy in the 8th Gate pull of physical feats that there's no proof that Sakura could replicate.
@@nathanmorgan3457 Well, she's faster and stronger, so why couldn't she replicate them?
@@an0rangutan there's no proof that she's faster or stronger. Especially considering how much Madara did to avoid Guy's hits, but when dealing with Sakura and her punches he casually stopped her then blocked it. And that was Sakura in her strongest form, yet he casually dealt with her and with abilities he had when he fought Guy. So it's not like Madara used abilities against her he couldn't against Guy.
D1 was yapping before yapping became mainstream.
Those who can use some common sense can tell who would crubstomp whom.
Adult sakura > momo > kin > Cho> shin> last Naruto > last sasuke > EOS naruto > EOS sasuke> toneri=kaguya>DMS kakashi>EOS sakura > Sixpath Kcm+sage Naruto > Base six Naruto > juubidara ~ 8th gates guy.
the last sasuke beats naruto
How does Sakura scale higher than momoshiki
@@legendseeker6944 she's stronger than base naruto and Sasuke
@@closegripbenchpress489 base naruto and sasuke have no scaling above fused momoshiki unless u mean base momoshiki
@@legendseeker6944 yeah they both do fighting kara members and ishiki/jigen
Yo spence, does adult sakura scale to kinshiki? I have some crack pot ideas rn
Thats a good debate actually 😮
She doesn’t
@@yunotheactivist49 you could do sakura>fatigued sasuke (because shin scales to fatigued sasuke and sakura beat him)=kinshiki
@@yunotheactivist49 my baby Pluto 🥵🥵🥵
@@jimmy89758what you would inherently be claiming is that this fatigued sasuke without his tomoe is of the same level of fatigue as the sasuke that fought kinshiki even if I entertained sasuke being fatigued against Kinshiki
Dear Lord. What a embarrassingly hectic video
I think I was here for part of this either way I remember this debate
ok??
@@nnamdiubbaonu4381 here bro I'll give you the attention your searching for:
How was your day?
D1 wouldn't talk like that to anyone in real life
1) 1 eyed rinnegan kamui madara perception blitz a stronga sakura
2) 2 eyed rinnegan madara stabbed a stronga sakura
3) sakura only blitz kaguya due to circumstances ( 1 jumpin out of kakashi susanoo 2 naruto n sasuke cornerin kaguya 3 zetsu bein separated from her ) n also movin downwards amps ur speed das how gravity works n also u can argue dat kaguya let sakura punch her so she can get away from naruto n sasuke
4) sakura couldnt out run a biju arm
5) she has no immunity to reg TS or ITS
6) nothin proves dat she can punch thro a PS
Facts!!!!!
Bro woke up and chose to spit FACTS
19:33 bro said the N word 😭 is he black or white bro 😭 idrc regardless it isn’t that serious but still
im black my boy
@@CFSpener u sound white not gon hold you
@@maloWRLD what is sounding white?
@@Saintsrow1824 are you stupid
The Madara that guy fought was 1 eyed pre god tree absorbed Madara. The Madara Sakura fought was 2 eyed god tree absorbed Madara. It was stated multiple times that if Madara gets his last rinnegan he will become way more powerful than his 1 eyed self. 2 eyed Madara used limbo on Sakura when in his battle against guy he never once used limbo not even against night guy. When Madara absorbed the god tree after he fought guy it gave him a huge amp where he could fight Naruto and Sasuke in their transformed states. This was 1 eyed Madara post god tree absorbed btw. Sakura fought 2 eyed god tree Madara. And Sakura forced 2 eyed Madara to use limbo where in his fight against guy he never used limbo. Sakura>guy
U guys are so stpid
@@dyrusstalker8028 ironic
so lets say for example naruto fights kakashi put didnt use a shadow clone to try n block attacks but den used a shadow clone to block an attack from konohamru kakashi>konohamaru ?
You just lost 2 of my brain cells reading this
Wait what She never forced Madara 🗿if she forced then the same limbo would have had crushed her
He literally was analysing her
A fan of mine said we sound similar after 30min i have to agree
Man
Leave it up to these clowns and they will give you a scaling
part 1 sakura >>> prime madara
come debate then buddy
War arc Sakura~> kaguya> 3 eyed juubidara😱
@@user-uj4gy8bt2b take this shit
EMS madara > 5 kage > onoki > boruto onoki (old) > ku> koratsuchi ~ kinshiki ~ momoshiki
Conclusion : EMS madara one shots both momoshiki and kinshiki at the same fking time
@@user-uj4gy8bt2b prime madara would beat adult Naruto and sasuke individually high diff , leave sakura alone
Get this shit scaling out of here
@@xmpl4810 ku is not stronger than kurasuchi. She let him capture her.
Didnt madara stomp a fresher and stronger sakura? Why is this a debate.
Naruto fans wasting their time
D1 could have won easily but he acted ignorant
No He couldnt have lol He literally had no chance thats why he trolled the whole debate
@@christianphrenger7902 Except he was right that Sakura isn't stronger than Madara. If Sakura was stronger than Madara then there would be absolutely no reason to give Naruto and Sasuke power ups, it's as simple as that
@@nathanmorgan3457 Why Is That? Madara isnt the Pinicle Of Power In The Franchise, Naruto & Sasuke Still Needed power ups for Outsuki
@@christianphrenger7902 yeah they needed those power ups to fight the Otsutsuki, but they were given those powers specifically because they needed them to fight Madara, so if Sakura was stronger than Madara by herself than Naruto and Sasuke wouldn't have needed that power because Sakura could've won by herself, but she was nowhere near strong enough to fight let alone beat Madara. Think about it logically. If Sakura was strong enough to beat Madara, then why was it so important that Naruto and Sasuke needed the powers they gained to beat him?
@@nathanmorgan3457 Bro Your Comparing War Arc Sakura To Adult Sakura While Forgetting alot Of Context That Puts Adult Sakura Relative to Naruto & Sasuke Meaning She Should Scale Above Madara Logically As Even Adult Sasuke Says He Beileves Him Or Naruto Could Solo A kaguya Level threat Individually Meaning If Sakura Scales Relative to them Over the years of Training She Would Scale Over Madara Who By Teen Sasukes Words Is Nothing In Compairson To Kaguyas Power…
D1 making valid points bruhh 8 gates guy can easily do the same shit to Kaguya that Sakura did .
Adult sakura vs Delta ?
I don’t think Sakura has any good scaling in Boruto. I guess you can say she should be above her daughter. You can then apply Sarada’s physical feats to Sakura and say she is unquantifiably above. I don’t know if I’m missing anything
@@angrydaniel2905 sakuras scaling in boruto mainly comes from her shinden novel where she scales to at least 2 times sanin level in the last, then you can just say shes like fatigued sauske level., which is kinda crazy considering that fatuiged sauske fought kinshiki but thats not the point. I just say that boruto sakura is like stronger than orochimaru in base by at least 2 times and can possibly be like sage jiraya level
Also delta negs, no diff. and i like sakura
Video coming out on six’s channel covering this tooic
@@CFSpener W I personally think Delta wins tho
1:05:33 hysterical laugh of defeat
"How do we know guy wouldn't be able to damage kaguya" how do we know kid konahamru doesint slam isshiki huh 🗿he never fought him 🥸🥸
Naruto jutsu that cut the tree actually made contact with the tree lmaoo Guy didn't even kick the tree if he did it would have been sent flying 😅
Madara can literally beat the shit out of Sakura with limbo clones and while they're at it, he can just launch the infinite genjutusu and win, why is this even a video
If she can blitz Kaguya she will blitz the SHIT out of Madara…Ur right, why is this a video? Sakura stomps NEGATIVE difficulty…We can debate it if you want
@@AyeeShaad Ah yes, a distracted Kaguya by Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi got speed blitzed. It’s not Sakura was accidentally covering her escape options. That’s a not a speed blitz.
@@ułttimate kaguya was not distracted she’s in six paths and she previously got amped it’s stated by zetsu…if naruto can sense the war happening across the entire continent in a weaker form of sage mode kaguya is and should be able to sense sakura at point blank range…u can imply that she has the strongest form of sage mode other than naruto in all of shippuden
@@A2Wealthy Naruto couldn’t sense the war until he focused, it’s not active 24/7
@@ułttimate he didn’t focus😂😂…once he walked out of the sealing tags in sage mode all of that came rushing towards him…u gotta study the material bro😂😂🤦🏽♂️
“Lets make this less than 45 minutes” 1 hour debate lol
Arguing sakura can fly by kicking the air even though shes never done that is stupid. It requires a lot of energy to do that so shes gonna be winding herself out just to get to Madara.
It doesnt matter if sakura hits harder, it doesn’t mean she can propel herself off the air like gai did. When gai does it, hes using a lot of energy and intensity that sakura isn’t capable of expending. She has power but not the energy. If she had nine tails chakra, then maybe she can do it for a bit but notice whats going on inside gai’s body to allow him to do that. Thats not going on inside Sakura.. lol
Nor does it mean she can weaponize air pressure like gai. Especially not how he does it, like hitting someone with air pressure from different angles.. nah.. gai may also be emitting more energy in his punches in order to accomplish punching sharp air columns into the air.
To say sakura can do what gai needed to open 8 gates to do and sacrifice his whole life to accomplish is also kinda disrespectful, but just untrue that she can do in first place lol
Sakura hurting kaguya also doesn’t automatically give her a badge… where does it indicate shes all that durable? Sakura also had the benefit of being underestimated and kaguyas attention drawn away from her cuz of naruto and sasuke lol plus gravity..
Kaguya didnt seem to sense her until she got closer, but i think kaguya was moreso surprised sakura would even make a stand against her. People mention the broken horn but thats made of the same material juubidara easily breaks off of his head to reveal his rinnesharingan.
You literally just needlessly assumed that gai is using chakra to manipulate the air when the opposite is stated. It’s stated that the only thing gai did was output force, what we saw was the result of that level of force on the air, so if I can prove she has the necessary force for it, she can do it. That sumple
@@CFSpener hey there spencer, i did not expect you to be responding that quick. You must check back this video a lot. This video was intense for sure. Did i say chakra? not chakra necessarily, a derivative of it, actual energy.
Its long been established the eight inner gates requires intense physical effort, intense physical effort sakura isn’t trained to output. Not same intensity to go with the power of her punches. its gotta be moreso a product of pure energy that drives the power of inner gates, thats just pure physical energy the release of all his chakra limiters allows him to do. Literally using all the energy stored in the body to attack. Like hes accomplishing what hes doing with energy because all his chakra limiters are released and hes using his own body as the energy source as a suicide move. Sakura isn’t reproducing that. Its fun to think about but nah… lol
As far as the air column punching thing, i mean i see the logic your using and if she can provide the necessary force its always possible, but i think speed of strike is also needed as well and is another factor to consider. Gai strikes fast and hard and with inhumane intensity at the expense of his own body. Besides force, to literally accomplish that. Like gai literally punches SHARP distinguished air columns into the air. To make such sharp air columns that charge in one direction and to move air like that, you would need a lot of power, energy, and speed. Js i have reason to believe its not as cut and dry as just amount of force generated. She can produce powerful shockwaves but she doesn’t have the intensity and speed behind her strikes as well.
And again, this is all besides the fact that if she could even do this, she’d be hauling ass just to try to get to Madara who goes air borne effortlessly. This would be just to try to attack him. lol
Even if we wanna debate and get others to believe sakura can do these things, arguing she can beat juubidara after getting to him in the air is an uphill battle. straight everest XD
Nice points. I didn't thought that people with brains in this channel exist
Doesn't matter if the limbo clones are in a different dimension he can sense them and still get caught lacking same with Kaguya that argument is irrelevant tbh
The guy who said Sakura hits harder than Guy lost the debate the moment he said that
debate me then
@@CFSpener I'm not gonna waste my time debating over something that should be obvious
@@nathanmorgan3457 it’s not obvious because you’re fucking wrong lmao.
@@nathanmorgan3457 I hate people like you I'm not gonna lie.
@@nathanmorgan3457 If it's so obvious, then debate him.
D1 is mad childish, it’s annoying listening to em 🤦🏾♂️
She’d beat all madara’s up until rinne sharigan madara but then he just becomes too hax!!!!!!!!!!
@@sarveshnathan7559 she does
Dawg D1 is so annoying bro constantly insults him I would be raging very 2 seconds. And D1 is worse at debating than kabuki
Kid Madara>Adult Sakura
War arc sakura>>>>>>any madara😭💀
@@travis4256 no the sakura >kaguya is debunkable
@@muigoku559 debunk it
@@drakefisher6317 bet what your discord
@@muigoku559 add me as well Thundering#3730
Wait, are these guys friends? Why tf is that dude talking to the other guy like that? Calling him a bitch and all, I hope they are friends joking around.
Why is the D1 person so rude.
4:35 😂
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ong D1 is such a content machine imo make more debates with him 😂😂
56:50 into the video D1 definitely won that argument lmaoo thats actually the first relevant argument 😂
All that sakura shit is just a meme at this point
It's not.
it rlly is
I honestly don’t even care about this Sakura shit as much anymore lol
@@sarveshnathan7559 shut up nigga I already said I don’t care about this as much 😂😂🙏
i knew who won before clicking on.
He tried saying Might Guy kick barley dented the God tree But Naruto technique Cut it down and than try to say Sakura is on par with Naruto lmaoo hell nahh this whole debate was a waste D1 won in the argument with Kaguya being caught off gaurd wich was irrelevant cause Madara can do that same feat faxts we all know it . The only relevant argument was the last and D1 won that 1
he made the argument that kaguya wasnt off guard, and it was amazing and a good feat that kaguya was punched down by sakura. first of all kaguya was off guard, she didnt even know saskura was coming and had eyes on naruto and sasuke. second, kaguya was flying up to the direction of sakura and sakura was flying down towards kaguya, im sure you know how gravity and physics work, if something is flying up and another thing is flying down the thing flying down would have more of an impact. this doesnt mean much at all tbh its not that good of a feat and i still dont see how sakura is the same strength of greater then 8 gate guy.
L scaling tbh
Yeah bro. Kaguya who literally has 360 degrees vision and nature-amped sensory capacity somehow "didn't know" Sakura was coming and somehow got caught "off-guard" by it. LMAO.
Don't try to argue when you don't even know what abilities the characters have.
@@shinji136 You're dumber than you think lol.
1. Neither Kaguya nor any Byakugan user has shown that their Byakugan grants them 360° vision, they all have a Blindspot which has been proven since Naruto.
2. The Byakugan can be blitzed, just like any Sharingan and Rinnegan user. Sakura blitzing Kaguya isn't an outlier and makes sense. Your immature hate over Sakura blinds you from the fact that she speed blitzed the strongest character in Shippuden, a version stronger than both six path Naruto and Sasuke. She also did more damage to that Kaguya than Six path Naruto's tailed beast rasenshuriken barrage.
@@shinji136 u do remember naruto and sasuke going to hit her as well right??? so do you think she shouldve ignored sasuke and naruto who are both stronger then sakura and let them hit her or her focus on them first, there wasnt much she couldve 360 vision or not its that simple
@@wmpraudio She had already dodged Naruto and Sasuke at that moment, lol. And even if she hadn't, it's not like it's a binary of either she deals with Sakura or she deals with Naruto and Sasuke, since she has tools to deal with all of them. If Sakura wasn't that strong then Kaguya could just have blitzed and dealt with her with her hair alone while she has every other tool from chakra arms to all-shattering bones to continue dealing with Naruto and Sasuke. And yet she couldn't, she got hit by Sakura even with that, her 360 degrees vision and six paths amped nature perception.
Mommy Sakura>
What’s D1 asked if you thought spirits are real I had to subscribe because that has to be the dumbest argument I’ve ever heard
So if you have to do something in the air to stay airborne you aren’t flying? Hmm..birds lol
6:05
This has got to be the dumbest topic I ever seen
you debate sakura vs jubidara? rlly??
All i gotta say adult Sakura is at best base so6p war arc Naruto who body 1 eye rennigan Madara
So at best am putting her above 1 eye jubidara
I think its obvious that Spencer was doing devil's advocate
Nope
@Spencer I can't even debate it cause I know you'll slap me harder than my rapist did
@@wpresvi That wasn't even funny, that's just disturbing.
Lol I wasn't ment to say that sorry
@@wpresvi Oh okay my bad.
how do u do this ? how do u worm ur way into arguments /
New Spener vid ayyyyyy
Spencer pee peed on D1
You Fr had to explain how to read a manga💀
D1 was being a complete clown and lost this.
So basically this debate went nowhere. Personally I only have two points (I'm using anime only). What can Adult Sakura do against Madaras limbo clones, and what makes her faster than Madara? If she's faster than Madara she can blitz him but I can't remember her being anywhere near him in speed (and yes I know about the light novel thing but im only comfortable using the anime). I'm confident shes hits harder than or at minimum as hard as him and that she'll be able to break parts of his susanoo. If tsunade broke it then Sakura definitely can. But if limbo clones have the same abilities as the original, can't they all use susanoo? And if so what can Sakura even do if she can't sense them?
I also wanna throw this out there just as thought, but maybe the reason Kaguya was hit by Sakura was because either she couldn't dodge or she forgot she was there. I mean she was occupied with naruto and sasuke (They're the ones who can seal her after all) so I can see that happening. But this is just head cannon.
If your comfortable with the databooks then it’s stated that sakura is equal to naruto and obito also says that sakura with her byakugo seal has more than enough chakra to power his kamui while naruto does not ( chakra= power and speed) so that means sakura is above Madara
@@omnipayne861 fake news ! Databook said not inferior ( which is not specific on what that is )and it was never stated she had more chakra than naruto clone. She has no feats proving she is on naruto and sasuke level or mountain level.
@@solidj4032 obito said that she had more chakra than a naruto clone. These shadow clones could fight Madaras limbo clones which are as strong as the real Madara.
She was stated in the data books “now that she’s caught up shell never fall behind even in collaboration with the two of them” in another databook this is referring to power since she caught up with their strength.
The other statement “not being inferior” also means strength since I’ve already shown consistency with the feats and statements and you would have to give an interpretation that is more valid to disprove that this statement is referring to power.
@@omnipayne861 again obito never said she had more chakra that's a fact.
Madara limbo clone easily blocked her but were pushed back by naruto clones. Fact
Saying she's not inferior means nothing without evidence. She embarrassed herself rushing madara, she was so scared of madara she forgot to breathe and she was called useless by sasuke which no one disagreed. Just fact!
Go back and read the manga because you sound just as stupid as spencer with all your delusional information that's not in the manga
@@solidj4032 your not disproving me. Go look at the start of the kaguya fight where obito is speaking to naruto and Sakura and how to retrieve sauske, narutos clone offers to go with him and he says “you don’t have enough chakra. And sauske offers and he says “it’s more than enough”