Wish this channel was around when I went self-employed, very helpful advice as to what tools to invest in! As a gardener, I don't use chainsaws much, but yesterday I had a huge branch that came down in the storms, probably 18 inches! After a year of being sat in the shed, my 455 Rancher started on the 3rd pull and went through it like butter! Great saw, but can't believe Husqvarna now price it at £699!😮
That little red saw looks very good. Nice and compact and it is all about the weight and chain speed m/s. The faster the chain speed the safer it is to operate. Speed of cut is in practice not that important in real life situations. Control and tiredness - loss of control... mistakes= accidents.
@@MachineryNation I tried to find the chain speed - failed. I just purchased a Hyundai 25cc pruner for small ground work looks very similar has 21m/s . Normally Husky but was 2x price and no climbing above 15 foot for me !
First saw I ever bought was a stihl ms170 I think. Still got it, works fine, great little saw. Don't rate battery saws for larger wood. I have battery and petrol and prefer petrol. I have a range of 14 different chainsaws mostly husky. Can't ever have enough chainsaws. The makita top handles are really good for pruning (battery ones).
Hi great video as always. I have a stihl ms 462 with a 36 and a 24 inch bar. Most reliable chainsaw I’ve ever owned. Wouldn’t go away from stihl even on price.
I have a US version of the blue 45cc saw. It's red with a 20" bar. There are about a half dozen different models of this saw from several different manufactures over here across the pond. It is a copy of a Zenoah saw. They perform well as is but really perk up with a few modifications.
I have a Stihl MS 211 with a 14 inch bar which is a great little saw, very handy and light weight. The problem I have is that with it being a smaller saw so is the fuel tank and it seems I'm forever stopping to refuel it. I also have an MS 271 Stihl that by comparison seems to run for ages before it needs refueling.
Out those saws I’d have the Stiga. The saws I have are all Husqvarna’s, 357,350 and two 254’s. The next test run those saws against battery and pro saws.
Hi lads. The first thing any domestic user considers is price, not weight of saw. I run a small tree service and am die hard stihl. You get what you pay for even in the domestic range, so if you want a saw you can get out the shed after no use for 6 months buy a stihl
Thanks for the video lads, these cheap saws are ideal for one off jobs or occasion use . In my collection I have 2 very cheap Chinese saws and they are super. In my experience lower powered saws are much smoother in the cut running 1.1(043) gauge chain and the lightest of the bunch will be the preferred saw.
Personally as a semi professional user that does a bit of hedgerow clewring in winter, i use a zoomax 5010, seems to take a decent amount of abuse without problem, apart from a few grommets broken due to a particularly bad kickback (had them replaced by local dealer, was a 2nd hand unit bought privately from one their mechanics)in a bad cut and brakeband thats snapped but never been replaced hasnt asked for anything iut the ordinary, just a bar and chain and fuel lines replaced
A cheap saw could be a good deal, but the safety features should work properly. Also most of the saws are way under the power you would expect from it. When it comes to felling a tree and the saw is underpowered it can get very dangerous. If you just cut up your firewood or a bit of pruning around in your garden ok. For the money you spend on them you also get a used Stihl, Dolmar or Husqvarna which are nice. Or you just spend a bit more and get an entry level saw like the Stihl MS 162, 170, Husqvarna 120 or 135.. Not to say these are bad machines, just a reminder to the safety points. And always wear proper protection.
I use a Stihl MS 181 as a limbing-up/hedglaying saw. Plenty of power, light handy and easy to adjust. However it really, really doesn't like petrol/oil mix, it tends to run-on, splutter or be a bugger to restart. So it's very expensive on fuel. The bigger Husqvarna I also use doesn't have this problem.
@@MachineryNation I thought so too but it never runs quite as well, even on super-unleaded and Stihl mix-oil. It also seems to get worse if you leave the petrol in it even for just a week. My working hypothesis is that the additives even in the premium unleaded somehow gum up the works. Currently thinking about a battery saw for the pleaching - something that can cut a 3-4+in bit of hawthorn every 5-10 minutes without the faff of starting an engine. Would be quieter and thus safer for working roadsides too. Perhaps a topic for a future video?
i have stiga vs540 which is "new" model of sp386. i bought it like a second chainsaw for lighter use, because my husquarna 365 is heavy after a while of use. is good saw but like you said, is easy to flood and choke position is dumb, i have few scratches on my knuckle because of it. but overall a very good saw for the price.
Hi James & Josh Nice one they will all do the job Being a Stihl fan go to saw was the 024 now having a battery saw hasn't had much use did run up a customers 018 at the weekend started second pull having a tank of aspen put in a few months back how about a comparison with old V new saws Thanks again
Hi , love your comparison reviews. Could you do a comparison review between the entry level Stihl petrol ms 162 and the equivalent in the battery Stihl line up eg msa 60/70/160.
@MachineryNation love your videos! Live locally and have been subscribed for a while! Id love a video spelling out the ranges from both Husqvarna and Stihl. I think you're the best people for it.
Saws are all designed to be run right handed, left hand on wrap and right hand running the throttle. Front handle bar is angled to avoid a direct center hit in a kickback event and if run left handed it won’t work. Plus the on off switch is usually designed to be operated with right hand thumb.
@@christopherlehman4045 Many thanks for the reply and information. I thought left handed chainsaws did exist even if they are like hen's teeth!! I think I had best keep away from chainsaws, I don't think I would have enough natural control!!
stihl every time theothers looked pain to watch them cut, a friend has a parkside and do a better job than the other 3 you showed, just because a saw it lighter dont mean its the one to go for beause you will be cutting longer with
I have had a Stihl 017 with a 14" guide bar. from new and it must be at least 25 years old now. I shudder to think how many logs it's cut ( Let alone a few small trees and cutting down overgrown hedges, cutting up old fences etc. ) It's gone through a few chains, sprockets and bars plus the odd sparkplug and air filter of course . I've never had to touch the carb or engine. The only mod I've done is a metal bumper spike. It just keeps plodding along, still starts after two or three pulls and only one when hot. It certainly owes me nothing.
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I would personally stick with the brands in which I know. And definitely visit my local dealer for advice. Thanks for a great video
Visiting a local dealer is definitely the best option 👍🏼
@@MachineryNation the chain tensioner on the stiga chainsaw was poorly built
As a stihl ms261c user, I'd still just recommend a known brand saw like stihl
The 261 is a good saw for sure 👍🏼
Wish this channel was around when I went self-employed, very helpful advice as to what tools to invest in! As a gardener, I don't use chainsaws much, but yesterday I had a huge branch that came down in the storms, probably 18 inches! After a year of being sat in the shed, my 455 Rancher started on the 3rd pull and went through it like butter! Great saw, but can't believe Husqvarna now price it at £699!😮
That little red saw looks very good. Nice and compact and it is all about the weight and chain speed m/s. The faster the chain speed the safer it is to operate.
Speed of cut is in practice not that important in real life situations. Control and tiredness - loss of control... mistakes= accidents.
The weight of that saw is incredible!
@@MachineryNation I tried to find the chain speed - failed. I just purchased a Hyundai 25cc pruner for small ground work looks very similar has 21m/s . Normally Husky but was 2x price and no climbing above 15 foot for me !
The Mitox looks like a Echo 2511 copy
I was thinking the same
Nothing like it , 2511 is a top handle saw .
@@Gordon_LNot the 2511 WES
@@AndreasBrOlesen Fair enough , I haven't come across that one , it's not even listed on the Echo Australia site where I am .
They make the 2511 in a rear handle as well selling under maruyama brand and likely others as well.
First saw I ever bought was a stihl ms170 I think. Still got it, works fine, great little saw. Don't rate battery saws for larger wood. I have battery and petrol and prefer petrol. I have a range of 14 different chainsaws mostly husky. Can't ever have enough chainsaws. The makita top handles are really good for pruning (battery ones).
Hi great video as always. I have a stihl ms 462 with a 36 and a 24 inch bar. Most reliable chainsaw I’ve ever owned. Wouldn’t go away from stihl even on price.
I have a 2006 Stihl 026 its been the best, I also have an Olimac 16” which is around 20years old and is also fantastic!!
I have a US version of the blue 45cc saw. It's red with a 20" bar. There are about a half dozen different models of this saw from several different manufactures over here across the pond. It is a copy of a Zenoah saw. They perform well as is but really perk up with a few modifications.
I have a Stihl MS 211 with a 14 inch bar which is a great little saw, very handy and light weight. The problem I have is that with it being a smaller saw so is the fuel tank and it seems I'm forever stopping to refuel it. I also have an MS 271 Stihl that by comparison seems to run for ages before it needs refueling.
Hi James + Josh, Great review on these petrol chain saws ideal for the home gardener, great video take care
Thanks Shaun 👍🏼
Out those saws I’d have the Stiga.
The saws I have are all Husqvarna’s, 357,350 and two 254’s. The next test run those saws against battery and pro saws.
Thanks Al! The 357 was an awesome saw along with one of my fav’s the 346.
Hi lads. The first thing any domestic user considers is price, not weight of saw. I run a small tree service and am die hard stihl. You get what you pay for even in the domestic range, so if you want a saw you can get out the shed after no use for 6 months buy a stihl
That’s pretty much the point of the video to be fair, it’s not all about price, other things to be considered.
Thanks for the video lads, these cheap saws are ideal for one off jobs or occasion use . In my collection I have 2 very cheap Chinese saws and they are super. In my experience lower powered saws are much smoother in the cut running 1.1(043) gauge chain and the lightest of the bunch will be the preferred saw.
Thanks Paul 👍🏼
I've just got a big old Hyundai 20 inch 62cc. It's a beast for only £130! I took down 2 30 inch trees with it, and logged it up, no problem.
It's an ok saw bit it vibrates like buggery
Agree the vibration is considerable.
@MachineryNation I'm not finding that's the case. Must have gotten lucky with a good one 😝
@ that’s ideal, several brands use the same saw with their name on it. You must have a good one 😉
Personally as a semi professional user that does a bit of hedgerow clewring in winter, i use a zoomax 5010, seems to take a decent amount of abuse without problem, apart from a few grommets broken due to a particularly bad kickback (had them replaced by local dealer, was a 2nd hand unit bought privately from one their mechanics)in a bad cut and brakeband thats snapped but never been replaced hasnt asked for anything iut the ordinary, just a bar and chain and fuel lines replaced
I’m not familiar with the Zoomax 5010. Thanks for the info 👍🏼
A cheap saw could be a good deal, but the safety features should work properly. Also most of the saws are way under the power you would expect from it. When it comes to felling a tree and the saw is underpowered it can get very dangerous. If you just cut up your firewood or a bit of pruning around in your garden ok. For the money you spend on them you also get a used Stihl, Dolmar or Husqvarna which are nice. Or you just spend a bit more and get an entry level saw like the Stihl MS 162, 170, Husqvarna 120 or 135..
Not to say these are bad machines, just a reminder to the safety points. And always wear proper protection.
Safety is paramount for sure 👍🏼
I use a Stihl MS 181 as a limbing-up/hedglaying saw. Plenty of power, light handy and easy to adjust.
However it really, really doesn't like petrol/oil mix, it tends to run-on, splutter or be a bugger to restart. So it's very expensive on fuel. The bigger Husqvarna I also use doesn't have this problem.
Interesting, it could just need tuning to the right mix?
@@MachineryNation I thought so too but it never runs quite as well, even on super-unleaded and Stihl mix-oil. It also seems to get worse if you leave the petrol in it even for just a week.
My working hypothesis is that the additives even in the premium unleaded somehow gum up the works.
Currently thinking about a battery saw for the pleaching - something that can cut a 3-4+in bit of hawthorn every 5-10 minutes without the faff of starting an engine. Would be quieter and thus safer for working roadsides too. Perhaps a topic for a future video?
i have stiga vs540 which is "new" model of sp386. i bought it like a second chainsaw for lighter use, because my husquarna 365 is heavy after a while of use. is good saw but like you said, is easy to flood and choke position is dumb, i have few scratches on my knuckle because of it. but overall a very good saw for the price.
I have 2x Stihls and a couple of cheaper ones. I would never skimp as it ends up costing money and time.
Thank you Craig 👍🏼
battery petrol horses for courses but can see domestic petrol saws disapearing replaced by battery low maintenance for ocasional users
I like 70's saws and huskys
Love the older saws, we have a fair collection that we have featured on both our channels.
Hi James & Josh Nice one they will all do the job Being a Stihl fan go to saw was the 024 now having a battery saw hasn't had much use did run up a customers 018 at the weekend started second pull having a tank of aspen put in a few months back
how about a comparison with old V new saws Thanks again
That would make a great video thanks Darran 👍🏼
@@MachineryNation Thanks I will correct my comment My saw is a 021
Hi , love your comparison reviews. Could you do a comparison review between the entry level Stihl petrol ms 162 and the equivalent in the battery Stihl line up eg msa 60/70/160.
That would be a good video, thanks 👍🏼
sthil husquavarne echo alday long but harder to get echo in the south east
Could you run a 14 inch bar on the stihl 162 and still get good power or is it worth going up to a 172/182?
Would of been cool to see a Husqvarna in the mix
135 MK II user - absolutely brilliant for size
We will get some more Husqvarna’s for future videos 💪🏽
@MachineryNation love your videos! Live locally and have been subscribed for a while!
Id love a video spelling out the ranges from both Husqvarna and Stihl. I think you're the best people for it.
The stiga looks just like the harbor freight branded saw that is made by yhe new Solo company.
No efco or oleomac
ihave a husky 450 and a old husky 254xp the old saw will still outcut the 450 both 20 inch bars
That SGS saw looks rhe same as all the other cheap chinese saws eg from lidl and aldi too
The smaller the wood the longer the bar 😎
Always 🤣
Can you help please with left handed, right handed comparisons?
Saws are all designed to be run right handed, left hand on wrap and right hand running the throttle. Front handle bar is angled to avoid a direct center hit in a kickback event and if run left handed it won’t work. Plus the on off switch is usually designed to be operated with right hand thumb.
@@christopherlehman4045 Many thanks for the reply and information. I thought left handed chainsaws did exist even if they are like hen's teeth!! I think I had best keep away from chainsaws, I don't think I would have enough natural control!!
They’re a couple lumberjacks and they’re okay
stihl every time theothers looked pain to watch them cut, a friend has a parkside and do a better job than the other 3 you showed, just because a saw it lighter dont mean its the one to go for beause you will be cutting longer with
I have had a Stihl 017 with a 14" guide bar. from new and it must be at least 25 years old now. I shudder to think how many logs it's cut ( Let alone a few small trees and cutting down overgrown hedges, cutting up old fences etc. ) It's gone through a few chains, sprockets and bars plus the odd sparkplug and air filter of course . I've never had to touch the carb or engine. The only mod I've done is a metal bumper spike. It just keeps plodding along, still starts after two or three pulls and only one when hot. It certainly owes me nothing.
I think the smallest park side chainsaw I’ve seen is a 53cc so it would be much bigger than these. The Mitox we have here is only 25cc for example 👍🏼
Mitox has always been absolutely shit and the video of that mitox saw was painfull to watch...get a stihl
I wouldn't buy any of these. Buy yourself a silky Katanaboy 650 and build up your muscles