But without auto top 4 seeding for conference winners, ASU would be the 10-12 seed. They didn't earn their seeding, they were granted it by the dumb way they set this up. Same with Boise St, they won a meh at best conference, so now they get a first round bye. Makes zero sense.
@@HarrisHighlightsYeah ASU not playing in Glendale kinda sucks, but I’m super happy they got in the top 4. It’d be wild if they met the Ducks in the playoff.
Was there a 100% right decision for the last spot? Absolutely not BUT for the grand scheme of college football, putting in SMU was the right decision. This puts value and relevancy on making your conference championship game. If bama was put in instead, the value and relevancy of conference championship games would be put into question and could’ve eventually led to teams throwing their last game to avoid their conference championship or getting rid of conference championship games altogether. SMU getting the last spot is the best long run decision for college football.
Agreed based on the fact that SMU went into this week ranked so many spots ahead of Bama…would have been tough to justify dropping them that many spots for losing a close game against a good team. But as Saban said on today’s broadcast, the REAL question we should be asking is how/why was SMU ranked so many spots ahead of Bama in the first place?
Well now the value and relevancy of scheduling better teams is gone. Just because yall dont want to play alabama doesnt mean we shouldnt play you. If SMU played against bama, bama woild smack them. How does a 0-2 team vs top 25 go over a 3-1 team vs top 25. You might be like “oh smu didnt play enough top 25 team. Well guess what. Thats why alabama should be in! Strength of schedule should matter.
@@ethanyoss that is still very well alive otherwise teams like Georgia and Tennessee wouldn’t be ranked as high as they are it’s the fact the bama got embarrassed by Oklahoma and lost to Vanderbilt there comes a point in time where multiple bad losses will get you punished. You’re not exempt from bad losing just because your schedule is tough. Plus Alabama is the highest ranked 3 loss team strength of schedule clearly matters but their strength of schedule is 16th it’s not like they have the toughest schedule out there.
@@coltrain2024 the same question can be asked for why Miami was ranked so many spots ahead of bama in the first place too. That’s the problem with the committee with releasing rankings week by week and then rising teams and dropping teams on an inconsistent basis. Screwing that process up is terrible for the final rankings because at that point they really can’t do stuff like dropping a team so many spots for losing a conference championship game. That’s why it’s so important for the initial rankings to be correct (which obviously they never were) so that when it’s the final week it makes more sense.
According to both FPI and Strength of Record, the 7 "At-Large" playoff teams are: Texas, Notre Dame, Penn St, Ohio St, Tennessee, Indiana, and Alabama The committee set a terrible precedent. Why is Ohio St, who beat two top 10 teams (including Penn St) ranked behind Penn St and Texas? Neither Penn St nor Texas beat a top 10 team, and neither of them have more than one ranked win. How is Alabama ranked ahead of Miami, but not ranked ahead of SMU? Miami lost to all the currently ranked opponents that they faced, SO DID SMU. SMU has a weaker strength of record than Alabama, Miami, South Carolina, and BYU. How is SMU in the playoffs? It seems that the committee values: "Losing a close game to a great team / Not losing to a bad team" Instead of: "Actually beating a great team"
Penn State couldn’t have gotten an easier path to the top 4. Unfortunately Penn State will choke to justify SMU’s selection because James Franklin is anti-clutch.
They got the rankings almost perfect. The only 2 things I would change is to put ASU as the 3 and Boise as the 4, and make Clemson the 11 and SMU the 12 because they just beat SMU. Unfortunately, not everyone will be happy with the rankings and there isn't a way to avoid that, but the committee did a great job this year.
In terms of seeding this makes sense. In terms of rankings this is a garbage take. If Boise State starts the week at 10 and ASU at 15, both of them beat ranked teams, in what world is ASU going to leapfrog Boise State? The seeding is dependent on the rankings. This is also the reason that Clemson is #12 and SMU is #11, because despite the H2H win, Clemson still lost to SC and doesn't compare favorably to the ole miss, bama, miami cluster.
At first I did out CLEM as #11 and SMU #12 for that same reason but found out it makes sense to have CLEM #12 cuz it’s not possible to rank CLEM higher than those groups like MIA, SC, AL, and Boise should def be #3 over ASU. They were going to be the #1 team in the country and lucked out. They proved to be one of the superior teams in the league
Auto first round byes need to stay. I know a lot of people are angry about AZ State and Boise State getting byes, but the conference championships need to matter. This gives a team that is already locked in the playoff an extra incentive to win. We wouldn't be having this conversation if Miami, BYU, and Colorado didnt collapse. We were all thinking the last auto bid would be a GO5 team, but that's what happens when you have a good GO5 team and the ACC and B12 decide to suck.
I think the committee knew for a fact that Bama has no business being in the playoff this year, and the only reason they were in last week's bracket was for the controversy and attention. I believe that the committee planned on leaving Bama out the whole time, the close ACC championship only legitimized it.
@ the who playoffs is a joke and it’ll hurt college football as a whole bc while trying to make everything matter they made nothing matter and are kinda just throwing teams in for random reasons I can’t tell u what an actual playoff team is this year bc it’s not most deserving,it’s not the best teams, and it’s not the best eye test teams bc haft of these games will be blow outs there a number of teams that made the playoffs that have literally a 0% chance to win the natty so what is the point of having them in especially when in the CFP was made for the 12 BEST team not most deserving but hey the 12 team playoff was made too give big named teams an incentive too play other big names schools and it’s doing the exact opposite
the problem is despite Bama’s wins, they have lost games to teams of the caliber that Boise, Indiana and others played for the entire year. Bama simply dropped the ball several times.
Ole miss & SCar have better wins & losses against ranked teams than bama. If you let a 3 loss bama in, what rationale do you provide to other 3 loss teams who have more credible wins & losses?
I’m gonna start with I agree Bama not being in but ole miss lost to Kentucky who had no other sec wins and Bama beat south Carolina head to head and blew out lsu who sc and miss lost to
Arizona state on the roll I would not be surprised seeing them make it to championship and win it on top of that because they got the perfect balance to have a good chance and the hottest team in the playoffs with momentum.
@@mikebronicki8264 I wouldn’t be surprised at that either. with this year playoff any team can be beaten on the playoffs it depends on who can reach their full potential as a balance team the best. Lot of people got their money on the favorites and favorites don’t win all the time sometimes underdogs win which is a cycle that happens for many years in college and high school championship runs
Here's an interesting fact about ASU: Playoff team records vs ranked opponents: Oregon has played 3 ranked teams and is 3-0 Georgia has played 6 ranked teams and is 4-2 Boise St. has played 2 ranked teams and is 1-1 ASU has played 4 ranked teams and is 4-0 Texas has played 6 ranked teams and is 4-2 (both losses to Georgia) Penn St. has played 3 ranked teams and is 2-1 Notre Dame has played 4 ranked teams and is 4-0 Ohio St. has played 3 ranked teams and is 2-1 Tennessee has played 4 ranked teams and is 3-1 Indiana has played 1 ranked team and is 0-1 SMU has played 3 ranked teams and is 2-1 Clemson has played 3 ranked teams and is 1-2 ASU has consistently beaten ranked opponents, and all but one (Iowa State) were ranked ABOVE ASU. ASU will get up for any opponent, and will be a problem for Clemson or Texas.
I like this, Dame gets dropped for not being in a championship and will have to face an SEC team likely. Bama gets bounced and for a good reason. Both Clemson and SMU are not gonna win their games so i don’t see anything wrong with their seeding; same outcome if they were switched around. Indiana has to prove they can hang and get to take on Dame. Ohio State Tennessee should be epic.
Looking back, hard to make a case for Ole Miss and Carolina with Bama now out. Ole Miss would’ve been in if they didn’t lose to the gators; THEY DROPPED THE BALL. If Carolina had locked things down earlier, they would’ve been in; THEY DROPPED THE BALL. Bama couldn’t beat Oklahoma or Vanderbilt; THEY DROPPED THE BALL!!!!
I’ll try to make a logical case for ole miss and sc now just as a fun thought exercise given what we know now, lmk what you think. Ole miss- the national champion should reflect the absolute best team of the season, the team that is the peak of all other teams. Not only is ole miss an obvious top12 team in college football if every single team played at their peak, but ole miss would be a top favorite to win the natty against the rest of the field at their peaks. SC- SC is a classic example of a team that has early season struggles from the new year but becomes a dominant force once they find their footing. In the past 7 weeks, SC has beaten 3 ranked opponents (one of which being the playoff bound ACC champion) and undeniably the hottest most dangerous team in nov and a team that played like they were never going to lose again. Just because they had early (and highly disputed losses), the arguably best team to end the regular season (inarguably top12) was left out
I say no bye weeks or only for the top 2 teams. I like seeing teams all prove their worth though not having the bye weeks would disincentivize playing so hard in the regular season.
Subconsciously I just love this playoff because Bama is out and Georgia has now swept Texas despite Carson Beck barely having an arm to complete a hand off and Gunner almost meeting Jesus.
totally agree .... hilarious that 2 Pac12 teams go to new conferences and dominate and would be even better to meet in the semi-finals. Just wish ASU got to play in the Rose or Fiesta Bowls.
smu defense fell asleep vs Clemson on last drive that sealed 34-31 thinking Clemson wasn’t gonna get a drive going for final field goal which they’ll learn to finish games to the finish in close games when they’re making a comeback but if smu played Clemson again they should win if they meet again because smu was getting into their groove it got real interesting lol if kicker for Clemson didn’t make field goal then overtime would’ve got more interesting and who knows how many overtimes that would’ve went.
The auto bye weeks are horrible, but I like this bracket and I believe we are in for a much better and less controversial playoff next year. extend it to 16 teams maybe and get rid of the Bye weeks and that would be epic.
The seeding is so stupid. Oregon is not rewarded for getting #1, they have to play Ohio state/ Tennessee, whereas Texas and penn state can waltz into the semis (granted ASU is a hot team rn, but they’re still big underdogs). Either the teams need to be re-seeded after each round or the first round byes should go to the top 4 teams, not top 4 conference championships
Agreed, they should do it by seeding like MM and if you win your conference your in but still a low seed, because lets be honest, not all conferences are created equal
Boise State in big games like the playoffs in bowl games fine ways to win the big bowls when they said they did not belong. They can't help who they play because no P4 conference will invite them, and they showed that they belong in the P4. If Boise State was in the Big 12 this year and the Big 12 champs? They would be rated higher, and could be number 2 seed.
So you’d reward Texas and Penn State with byes in the playoffs for losing their conference championship game? When have we ever given awards for losing/participating? Why would you incentivize losing?
If Alabama had lost to only high ranked teams they would have a better case about SOS and should've made the playoff, but they lost to 2 teams with a sub .500 conference record and a combined 3 other conference wins. You can schedule tough games and not be punished, they were punished for losing to bad teams and looking bad doing it.
I also think the committee put SMU at 11 to make some suspense and make people think it could be Alabama. If SMU would have been listed first at 10, everyone would know Indiana would be next 😅
Bro it would be insane if get Georgia vs Texas for a third time. For once I am glad Penn State is mediocre in big games lmao We got an easier route, but James Franklin will F it up somehow 😭😭
Finally win a playoff game against SMU just to lose to Boise State the next game, I could totally see that happening. Finally not mess up just to mess up in another big way.
For the past few weeks I've been telling people to stop complaining and let's wait till the end to see if everything works out... And it did... People are so dramatic when it's just speculation. Let the crackpot of a season simmer to the end, then make your true criticism.
I also think the committee could’ve seeded Ohio State differently so they wouldn’t play Oregon in the quarterfinals. There wasn’t any way to reshuffle better (Thanks Ryan Day) but I think preventing conference rematches until the semis would be better
That's really hard with football. It's such a brutal game that teams in the first game of the season wouldn't look much like the teams in the championship. If there was a 5 game post season...
@@lawrenceandrews4367 they were the only team that looked good on both offense AND defense yesterday, but ok ..... can't wait for ASU to beat the Clemson/Texas winner.
Well, they did lose 2 games to sub 500 teams.... just saying. I agree they are hot now, happy they got 4 seed and bye. They would have got 3 seed if they got hot earlier....
@arcostonian I think their loss to Cincinnati is overlooked. They had their starting QB out and then their first conference game in the Big12 was at Texas Tech with a fresh group... I think they deserve the 3rd
Simple Fix: Don’t rank teams until 4/5 games into the season. Let them earn their rankings. Many teams in the SEC didn’t deserve to be rank so early and for a long period of time.
Or what they could do have your power 4 champions, highest ranked conference champion and 6 at large bids and 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th ranked team play for the last spot and winner gets the 12th and final playoff spot
Alabama was ranked 11th in the Final Rankings - why does no one know this? Clemson finished 16th but is vaulted as the 12th seed because of the auto bid.
I think Notre dame should be 6 and Penn State should be 7 because Indiana was 2 spots behind SMU and SMU lost by three and fell below Indiana, Penn State was 1 spot above Notre Dame and lost by two touchdowns and stayed above Notre Dame the logic isn’t there
SMU 4th quarter rally convinced the committee that they deserve to be in the playoffs. Bama put themself in a bad situation by losing to Vandy and OU. They were 21 and 26 point favorites in both games.
If it was between SMU and Alabama. The only thing that should have been considered is the record Bama and SMU would have against the other 11 playoff teams. Whoever had the better record should have been in. That's how the best teams is figured.
Longhorn Fan and UT Grad. Instead of a 1st Round Bye, we get a home playoff game which adds about 1 billion to the local economy. Hook Em! Also, Clemson and ASU are easy wins. Longhorns do not have a tough game until quarterfinals agains OSU or Oregon
Almost losing to Georgia is bad how exactly? And I don't think Bama deserved a spot, so I'm good with them not being in. But let us not be unreasonable. Georgia is one of the three best teams in the country, ALMOST losing to them is a weird way of saying they won. ALMOST losing only matters if the team you ALMOST lost to isn't that good.
It seemed that there was a real emphasis on not penalizing underdogs for losing their conference championship games. Instead of having Notre Dame at #5, they dropped to #7 since they can't play for a conference championship (I hope this continues so they will finally join a conference). Penn State and SMU lost their conference championship games, but I believe the committee only dropped them the absolute minimum they could. They easily could have had Penn State as the eight seed or bumped SMU from the playoff entirely, but they chose not to set a dangerous precedent.
Never know what happens in any given game. But as an Irish fan, I'm not that concerned about their half of the bracket, outside of Georgia. Notre Dame SHOULD beat Indy, and I think they're better than PSU and WAY better than SMU. I don't know Boise St very well, but I would rather face them in a semi final than Oregon or ASU. Looks like a lot of fun matchups.
Look though we got a fucked up system though. The fact that Oregon as thew only unbeaten has to beat 2 of the 3 best teams in the field to even get to the natty is absurd. Here's my prospal next year after the first round playoff games we re-seed the teams with Oregon picking their second round opponent as the 1 seed Let me know your thoughts
I like the bracket. End of the day if you can’t compete for your conference championship why would you get a slot to compete for a national championship? I know there’s 3 title contenders in the BIG 10 and probably 4 in the SEC, but if you didn’t get it done in conference play then tough luck. Happy there’s limited speculation of “every SEC school will pommel the top ACC and Big 12 schools” prove it on the field, everybody gets a chance to show it
Because ranked wins should matter. Beating uga and south carolina are better than any of clemsons or smu wins. Committee probably let them in so people wouldn't complain and are alone setting the mustangs up for failure in a winter game at psu. I blame smu for foolishly letting the kick returner have an opportunity
I would tweak the SOS up a bit and do it more fairly. It seemed that they made it where the cupcake P4 teams are stronger than G5 teams, but when those team loses to G5 or FCS teams? It makes the SOS a joke. Look how they did the SOS for MWC schools? That is a joke period. Arizona State fans and all the former PAC 12 fans would tell you that those MWC teams are no joke to play them. They are tough teams to beat. UNR was 3-10 this year, but 6 games they lost by 7 or fewer games. They could be a 6 to 9 wins team with two of them they lost 7 points to Boise State and a 5 points lost to SMU. They made the cards stacked against everybody who is not named Big 10 and SEC.
@@nomad7734they earned it after going through the countries hardest schedule and being sec champs... not to mention they already played and beat the other half of the playoff bracket. What do you want a bunch of rematches?
thing i don’t like is that penn state has a easier path to the final four than oregon does tbh. they face smu and if they win it’s boise st. i think clemson should be there and not boise st so it would be a bit harder (i don’t have thaaat much faith in boise st) but it is what it is
Personally, im a fan of the bye because if you can't win your conferences, you're * probably * not good enough to win it all. If you are, you should have to prove it by going through the gauntlet
exceptions of B1G and SEC, I think Georgia and Texas both have a chance of winning it all, and PennState prob won't win it all but I wouldnt count them out
Alabama has NEVER played tough out of conference games. This is for college football not just the SEC. Alabama gets the benefit of the doubt every year so I am happy for once that they got the boot... SMU lost 2 games, both very close games and both against top 20 teams.
And while I think 5 conferences should get auto bids, putting four conference winners as byes instead of the top four makes it easy for stronger teams to walk into the semis since they will play that years cinderella team that won a weak conference. A more accurate T4 would be 1. Oregon 2. Georgia 3. ND and 4. Texas
It HAS to matter that, while SMU made its conference-title game and Bama didn’t, the SEC is still VASTLY superior to the ACC. It HAS to matter that SMU had an easier time qualifying for its conference-title game via a SOFT schedule. It HAS to matter that there’s a difference of 44 SPOTS between Bama and SMU in the strength of schedule rankings. It HAS to matter that, while Bama suffered some embarassing losses, SMU CANNOT TOUCH Bama’s KEY WINS. Conference title games are important, win or lose-but not all Conference titles are created equal, and it’s silly to pretend otherwise.
It's not perfect perfect...But it was pretty good. And if I was the commite, it would be hard for be, too. Boise State shoudn't even get a first round bye in my opinion. Besides Oregon, they have played nobody.
They still have 3 top 25 wins and 3 800 plus wins. They played Oregon real tight and delivered well in MWC title game. They also have best player in CF right now. That is better resume than PSU, Indiana, and a few others. You might not like it, but the big schools dont schedule non conference with Boise for a reason... they will likely lose.
This be because I’m biased to NotreDame. But I don’t why they drop because of two teams ahead of them lost shouldn’t they jump the teams that lost? Let me know if I’m wrong.
Clemson beats the supposed number 8 team and moved up 1 spot. Smu moved back a whole 2 spots losing to a 16 seed. So if smu is supposedly the 8th best team why did clemson only gain 1 spot. Asu gained 3 spots beating the 15th team.
Preseason look at schedules the weakest power 4 schedule was smu It didn't take Rhett Lashlee long to win a championship at SMU. The Mustangs won the AAC title a year ago in his second season in Dallas, the program's first conference championship since 1984. Now comes life in the ACC, and the schedule is manageable enough that the Mustangs could again be in position for double-digit wins. Their only Top 25 foe (Florida State) is at home on Sept. 28. In fact, four of their first five games are at home, and they end the season against Pittsburgh, Boston College, Virginia and Cal. Only the Virginia game is on the road.
I'm happy with it. Bama should've been cut and they were. All conferences have been covered. ACC nit getting a bye, but getting 2 teams in. Will be fun. Go Boise.
No they dont lol they dont have a top 25 win and the 2 teams they played that were ranked they lost too not to mention they lost to Clemson that got blown out by Georgia and they lost to BYU witch everyone knows isnt that good you literally can’t make an actual argument for why SMU deserves to get in lol
Why do they deserve to be in? Their best win is against Louisville, who had 4 losses, and they have zero wins against st ranked teams. I'm not saying Bama deserves it either. But to say SMU deserves a spot is just nonsense.
@@musheroomelive4915 Louisville and Duke are two of the first three teams out and i'd argue both are better than Missouri who is way worse than their ranking shows
@@ryanamburgy2791 I don’t agree with the rankings but you can’t make a hypothetical arguments bc then you gotta give both ways bc then we gotta bring in other hypotheticals the rankings are the rankings and if you’re arguing for SMU being right then idk why u wanna argue saying they are wrong lol
Did the playoff committee get it correct?
Yes
Yes agreed
The teams that got added? Yes. But Penn State at 4 is insane.
I feel like bama should of got spot vandy and oakloma Are good they just play in a good conf if they played in acc they would both be ranked
After Alabama losing to Oklahoma by 3TDs I think they we're out
The first time the playoff got all the teams completely right. Seeding is iffy but if they eliminate auto-first round byes then it’ll be great
Yup... I'm pissed about ASU getting the 4 seed bc with the 3 seed they would have had the Fiesta Bowl 20 miles from campus
Wrong.
But without auto top 4 seeding for conference winners, ASU would be the 10-12 seed. They didn't earn their seeding, they were granted it by the dumb way they set this up. Same with Boise St, they won a meh at best conference, so now they get a first round bye. Makes zero sense.
ASU getting 3 would go crazy because its close to their stadium
@@HarrisHighlightsYeah ASU not playing in Glendale kinda sucks, but I’m super happy they got in the top 4. It’d be wild if they met the Ducks in the playoff.
Was there a 100% right decision for the last spot? Absolutely not
BUT for the grand scheme of college football, putting in SMU was the right decision. This puts value and relevancy on making your conference championship game. If bama was put in instead, the value and relevancy of conference championship games would be put into question and could’ve eventually led to teams throwing their last game to avoid their conference championship or getting rid of conference championship games altogether. SMU getting the last spot is the best long run decision for college football.
Agreed based on the fact that SMU went into this week ranked so many spots ahead of Bama…would have been tough to justify dropping them that many spots for losing a close game against a good team. But as Saban said on today’s broadcast, the REAL question we should be asking is how/why was SMU ranked so many spots ahead of Bama in the first place?
ARMY > SMU & Bama
Well now the value and relevancy of scheduling better teams is gone. Just because yall dont want to play alabama doesnt mean we shouldnt play you. If SMU played against bama, bama woild smack them. How does a 0-2 team vs top 25 go over a 3-1 team vs top 25. You might be like “oh smu didnt play enough top 25 team. Well guess what. Thats why alabama should be in! Strength of schedule should matter.
@@ethanyoss that is still very well alive otherwise teams like Georgia and Tennessee wouldn’t be ranked as high as they are it’s the fact the bama got embarrassed by Oklahoma and lost to Vanderbilt there comes a point in time where multiple bad losses will get you punished. You’re not exempt from bad losing just because your schedule is tough. Plus Alabama is the highest ranked 3 loss team strength of schedule clearly matters but their strength of schedule is 16th it’s not like they have the toughest schedule out there.
@@coltrain2024 the same question can be asked for why Miami was ranked so many spots ahead of bama in the first place too. That’s the problem with the committee with releasing rankings week by week and then rising teams and dropping teams on an inconsistent basis. Screwing that process up is terrible for the final rankings because at that point they really can’t do stuff like dropping a team so many spots for losing a conference championship game. That’s why it’s so important for the initial rankings to be correct (which obviously they never were) so that when it’s the final week it makes more sense.
SMU's second half rally is how i think they got in
Yeah if they would have lost by 20+ it would have gotten interesting
@@HarrisHighlights then that's when u bring in South Carolina, Miami and Alabama back into the mix
I absolutely agree, Clemson decided if they want in, they want Bama out too
@@jeremyjames3633Bama was the only team in the conversation
According to both FPI and Strength of Record, the 7 "At-Large" playoff teams are:
Texas, Notre Dame, Penn St, Ohio St, Tennessee, Indiana, and Alabama
The committee set a terrible precedent.
Why is Ohio St, who beat two top 10 teams (including Penn St) ranked behind Penn St and Texas? Neither Penn St nor Texas beat a top 10 team, and neither of them have more than one ranked win.
How is Alabama ranked ahead of Miami, but not ranked ahead of SMU? Miami lost to all the currently ranked opponents that they faced, SO DID SMU. SMU has a weaker strength of record than Alabama, Miami, South Carolina, and BYU. How is SMU in the playoffs?
It seems that the committee values:
"Losing a close game to a great team / Not losing to a bad team"
Instead of:
"Actually beating a great team"
A Boise State vs Arizona State National Championship would be crazy!
Winning teams RB gets the heisman lol
Rooting for this
I wish this would happen but the odds are slim
@@ian-hm6cxJeanty deserves it more than Skattebo
@@KidsSports-jw4bz How, Jeanty ran mostly over crap teams.
Penn State couldn’t have gotten an easier path to the top 4. Unfortunately Penn State will choke to justify SMU’s selection because James Franklin is anti-clutch.
I have PSU squeaking by SMU but getting torched by Jeanty to follow
@@ryanamburgy2791 I think Boise is overrated. I actually think SMU will beat Penn State and beat Boise State to make the semis
@NikolaiG8 Boise is an ok team hard carried by a the best player in CFB. That being said, I do realistically think any of the 3 could make it out.
Texas has it easier.
@NikolaiG8If we go history wise, as some like to do. Boise is 3-0 in the Fiesta Bowl.
They got the rankings almost perfect. The only 2 things I would change is to put ASU as the 3 and Boise as the 4, and make Clemson the 11 and SMU the 12 because they just beat SMU. Unfortunately, not everyone will be happy with the rankings and there isn't a way to avoid that, but the committee did a great job this year.
In terms of seeding this makes sense. In terms of rankings this is a garbage take. If Boise State starts the week at 10 and ASU at 15, both of them beat ranked teams, in what world is ASU going to leapfrog Boise State?
The seeding is dependent on the rankings. This is also the reason that Clemson is #12 and SMU is #11, because despite the H2H win, Clemson still lost to SC and doesn't compare favorably to the ole miss, bama, miami cluster.
At first I did out CLEM as #11 and SMU #12 for that same reason but found out it makes sense to have CLEM #12 cuz it’s not possible to rank CLEM higher than those groups like MIA, SC, AL,
and Boise should def be #3 over ASU. They were going to be the #1 team in the country and lucked out. They proved to be one of the superior teams in the league
Auto first round byes need to stay. I know a lot of people are angry about AZ State and Boise State getting byes, but the conference championships need to matter. This gives a team that is already locked in the playoff an extra incentive to win. We wouldn't be having this conversation if Miami, BYU, and Colorado didnt collapse. We were all thinking the last auto bid would be a GO5 team, but that's what happens when you have a good GO5 team and the ACC and B12 decide to suck.
This
People are gonna say it’s perfect bama ain’t in it 😂 can’t wait for these playoffs
Not a bama fan but it's gonna be boring until the 2nd round clemson smu and Indiana are gonna get destroyed
I think the committee knew for a fact that Bama has no business being in the playoff this year, and the only reason they were in last week's bracket was for the controversy and attention. I believe that the committee planned on leaving Bama out the whole time, the close ACC championship only legitimized it.
Very thankful for this committee's work. Especially after the debacle of Florida State AND Georgia last year.
I can't believe that Alabama didn't get in. I thought for sure the committee was going to sell out. Glad they didn't.
100% right is absolutely a stretch , they did better than most other committees have in recent memory, still not perfect
It is 100% perfect
It’s wild too think 5 of the “playoff teams” don’t have a ranked win lol
Bama sitting out with 3 ranked wins and one over the SEC champ is wild. Meanwhile Bama also beat 2 of the teams Clemson lost to.
@@travisn346 losing to a 6-6 vandy who got beat by a 3-9 ga st and getting whipped and held to 3 by a 6-6 Okla team says other
@ the who playoffs is a joke and it’ll hurt college football as a whole bc while trying to make everything matter they made nothing matter and are kinda just throwing teams in for random reasons I can’t tell u what an actual playoff team is this year bc it’s not most deserving,it’s not the best teams, and it’s not the best eye test teams bc haft of these games will be blow outs there a number of teams that made the playoffs that have literally a 0% chance to win the natty so what is the point of having them in especially when in the CFP was made for the 12 BEST team not most deserving but hey the 12 team playoff was made too give big named teams an incentive too play other big names schools and it’s doing the exact opposite
the problem is despite Bama’s wins, they have lost games to teams of the caliber that Boise, Indiana and others played for the entire year.
Bama simply dropped the ball several times.
Ole miss & SCar have better wins & losses against ranked teams than bama. If you let a 3 loss bama in, what rationale do you provide to other 3 loss teams who have more credible wins & losses?
I’m gonna start with I agree Bama not being in but ole miss lost to Kentucky who had no other sec wins and Bama beat south Carolina head to head and blew out lsu who sc and miss lost to
@@creektullis2443 SC didn't lose to LSU and we all know it
Arizona state on the roll I would not be surprised seeing them make it to championship and win it on top of that because they got the perfect balance to have a good chance and the hottest team in the playoffs with momentum.
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Texas 38, Arizona St 7
@@mikebronicki8264 I wouldn’t be surprised at that either. with this year playoff any team can be beaten on the playoffs it depends on who can reach their full potential as a balance team the best.
Lot of people got their money on the favorites and favorites don’t win all the time sometimes underdogs win which is a cycle that happens for many years in college and high school championship runs
Here's an interesting fact about ASU:
Playoff team records vs ranked opponents:
Oregon has played 3 ranked teams and is 3-0
Georgia has played 6 ranked teams and is 4-2
Boise St. has played 2 ranked teams and is 1-1
ASU has played 4 ranked teams and is 4-0
Texas has played 6 ranked teams and is 4-2 (both losses to Georgia)
Penn St. has played 3 ranked teams and is 2-1
Notre Dame has played 4 ranked teams and is 4-0
Ohio St. has played 3 ranked teams and is 2-1
Tennessee has played 4 ranked teams and is 3-1
Indiana has played 1 ranked team and is 0-1
SMU has played 3 ranked teams and is 2-1
Clemson has played 3 ranked teams and is 1-2
ASU has consistently beaten ranked opponents, and all but one (Iowa State) were ranked ABOVE ASU.
ASU will get up for any opponent, and will be a problem for Clemson or Texas.
I like this, Dame gets dropped for not being in a championship and will have to face an SEC team likely.
Bama gets bounced and for a good reason.
Both Clemson and SMU are not gonna win their games so i don’t see anything wrong with their seeding; same outcome if they were switched around.
Indiana has to prove they can hang and get to take on Dame.
Ohio State Tennessee should be epic.
Looking back, hard to make a case for Ole Miss and Carolina with Bama now out.
Ole Miss would’ve been in if they didn’t lose to the gators; THEY DROPPED THE BALL.
If Carolina had locked things down earlier, they would’ve been in; THEY DROPPED THE BALL.
Bama couldn’t beat Oklahoma or Vanderbilt; THEY DROPPED THE BALL!!!!
I’ll try to make a logical case for ole miss and sc now just as a fun thought exercise given what we know now, lmk what you think.
Ole miss- the national champion should reflect the absolute best team of the season, the team that is the peak of all other teams. Not only is ole miss an obvious top12 team in college football if every single team played at their peak, but ole miss would be a top favorite to win the natty against the rest of the field at their peaks.
SC- SC is a classic example of a team that has early season struggles from the new year but becomes a dominant force once they find their footing. In the past 7 weeks, SC has beaten 3 ranked opponents (one of which being the playoff bound ACC champion) and undeniably the hottest most dangerous team in nov and a team that played like they were never going to lose again. Just because they had early (and highly disputed losses), the arguably best team to end the regular season (inarguably top12) was left out
The committee did good, I do think that they should just do top 4 get buys and not the conference championship stuff
I say no bye weeks or only for the top 2 teams.
I like seeing teams all prove their worth though not having the bye weeks would disincentivize playing so hard in the regular season.
As a Texas fan you don’t know how bad I wanted to play SMU for the SWC renewal 😭😭🤘🏼🤘🏼
Subconsciously I just love this playoff because Bama is out and Georgia has now swept Texas despite Carson Beck barely having an arm to complete a hand off and Gunner almost meeting Jesus.
Question whos your favorite to win it all and whose your Darkhorse team to win it all? My favorite is Oregon and my Darkhorse is Arizona State
totally agree .... hilarious that 2 Pac12 teams go to new conferences and dominate and would be even better to meet in the semi-finals. Just wish ASU got to play in the Rose or Fiesta Bowls.
My favorite would be Oregon but my dark horse would be Notre Dame:
smu defense fell asleep vs Clemson on last drive that sealed 34-31 thinking Clemson wasn’t gonna get a drive going for final field goal which they’ll learn to finish games to the finish in close games when they’re making a comeback
but if smu played Clemson again they should win if they meet again because smu was getting into their groove it got real interesting lol
if kicker for Clemson didn’t make field goal then overtime would’ve got more interesting and who knows how many overtimes that would’ve went.
Smu didn't play nobody when they did they lost
We could see a Oregon Ohio State rematch in the quarterfinals!
The auto bye weeks are horrible, but I like this bracket and I believe we are in for a much better and less controversial playoff next year.
extend it to 16 teams maybe and get rid of the Bye weeks and that would be epic.
Well I think there should be some byes for the best of the best to earn
They did it to add value to conference championships
The seeding is so stupid. Oregon is not rewarded for getting #1, they have to play Ohio state/ Tennessee, whereas Texas and penn state can waltz into the semis (granted ASU is a hot team rn, but they’re still big underdogs). Either the teams need to be re-seeded after each round or the first round byes should go to the top 4 teams, not top 4 conference championships
PSU will not waltz into the semis. Franklin always chokes big games and PSU D gets torched by Jeanty
Agreed, they should do it by seeding like MM and if you win your conference your in but still a low seed, because lets be honest, not all conferences are created equal
Boise State in big games like the playoffs in bowl games fine ways to win the big bowls when they said they did not belong. They can't help who they play because no P4 conference will invite them, and they showed that they belong in the P4. If Boise State was in the Big 12 this year and the Big 12 champs? They would be rated higher, and could be number 2 seed.
You get rewarded with a bye. Thats the reward. Stop complaining. It was never about who they would face later on.
So you’d reward Texas and Penn State with byes in the playoffs for losing their conference championship game? When have we ever given awards for losing/participating? Why would you incentivize losing?
If Alabama had lost to only high ranked teams they would have a better case about SOS and should've made the playoff, but they lost to 2 teams with a sub .500 conference record and a combined 3 other conference wins.
You can schedule tough games and not be punished, they were punished for losing to bad teams and looking bad doing it.
I also think the committee put SMU at 11 to make some suspense and make people think it could be Alabama. If SMU would have been listed first at 10, everyone would know Indiana would be next 😅
they did it so we wouldnt have psu-iu
no its because iu is 11-1 and smu is 11-2
@@ryanamburgy2791 I said “also think,” so I think it was some of both, probably 80/20 towards the actual matchup though
Bro it would be insane if get Georgia vs Texas for a third time. For once I am glad Penn State is mediocre in big games lmao We got an easier route, but James Franklin will F it up somehow 😭😭
Finally win a playoff game against SMU just to lose to Boise State the next game, I could totally see that happening. Finally not mess up just to mess up in another big way.
They got it right, honestly there may be a few upsets too
For the past few weeks I've been telling people to stop complaining and let's wait till the end to see if everything works out... And it did... People are so dramatic when it's just speculation. Let the crackpot of a season simmer to the end, then make your true criticism.
I also think the committee could’ve seeded Ohio State differently so they wouldn’t play Oregon in the quarterfinals. There wasn’t any way to reshuffle better (Thanks Ryan Day) but I think preventing conference rematches until the semis would be better
I say 32 teams get ranked and all the teams in the top 32 play in a massive tournament
That's really hard with football. It's such a brutal game that teams in the first game of the season wouldn't look much like the teams in the championship. If there was a 5 game post season...
ASU not getting the 3rd Seed is criminal
Wrong because they are trash
@@lawrenceandrews4367 they were the only team that looked good on both offense AND defense yesterday, but ok ..... can't wait for ASU to beat the Clemson/Texas winner.
Well, they did lose 2 games to sub 500 teams.... just saying. I agree they are hot now, happy they got 4 seed and bye. They would have got 3 seed if they got hot earlier....
@@arcostonian remember ASU lost one of those 2 games only because the QB was out.
@arcostonian I think their loss to Cincinnati is overlooked. They had their starting QB out and then their first conference game in the Big12 was at Texas Tech with a fresh group... I think they deserve the 3rd
What" No Army? No Michigan? No matter how many teams would make the play offs, somebody would be complaining.
Ridiculous how we aren’t the 5 seed
So sad UM didn’t make it but seriously they did a fantastic job in my opinion. Gonna be a great games to watch
Simple Fix: Don’t rank teams until 4/5 games into the season.
Let them earn their rankings. Many teams in the SEC didn’t deserve to be rank so early and for a long period of time.
Nearly perfect. Leaving out South Carolina is a crime, but probably a sigh of relief for all of the teams in.
When SEC fans are complaining it's a good bracket
How come you don’t do a game to remember videos anymore I love those
Would've loved to see my Vols hosting a playoff game at Neyland Stadium, but we absolutely got the right 12 teams in the playoff.
Few words can describe how happy I am that Alabama didn't get in.
5 'playoff teams' (including SMU) have not beaten a ranked team
Or what they could do have your power 4 champions, highest ranked conference champion and 6 at large bids and 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th ranked team play for the last spot and winner gets the 12th and final playoff spot
Alabama was ranked 11th in the Final Rankings - why does no one know this? Clemson finished 16th but is vaulted as the 12th seed because of the auto bid.
I think Notre dame should be 6 and Penn State should be 7 because Indiana was 2 spots behind SMU and SMU lost by three and fell below Indiana, Penn State was 1 spot above Notre Dame and lost by two touchdowns and stayed above Notre Dame the logic isn’t there
SMU 4th quarter rally convinced the committee that they deserve to be in the playoffs. Bama put themself in a bad situation by losing to Vandy and OU. They were 21 and 26 point favorites in both games.
“First time in what seems like forever” bro you said they got it right last year
If it was between SMU and Alabama. The only thing that should have been considered is the record Bama and SMU would have against the other 11 playoff teams. Whoever had the better record should have been in. That's how the best teams is figured.
Longhorn Fan and UT Grad. Instead of a 1st Round Bye, we get a home playoff game which adds about 1 billion to the local economy. Hook Em! Also, Clemson and ASU are easy wins. Longhorns do not have a tough game until quarterfinals agains OSU or Oregon
I wouldn't say they are easy wins. Texas better take these games seriously but if they do I like Texas's chances of winning both of them.
Semifinals
I was mentally prepared for Alabama to get the nod, and the I completely freaked the FUCK out when SMU got in.
Ahh yess..because we should reward Penn st for losing big games. 💀
Can we bring the show just one last time for the Brady-Lyle banter for this ND Indiana matchup
Alabama really has four bad games!! The three losses and the game they nearly blew to Georgia!! That whole team is flawed beyond belief.
The cracks were showing once Saban retired
AND SMU BEAT DUKE HOORAY!
Almost losing to Georgia is bad how exactly? And I don't think Bama deserved a spot, so I'm good with them not being in. But let us not be unreasonable. Georgia is one of the three best teams in the country, ALMOST losing to them is a weird way of saying they won. ALMOST losing only matters if the team you ALMOST lost to isn't that good.
Admittedly Alabama has 2 really good wins
And 2 UGLY losses...
That OU loss was the dream killer...
It seemed that there was a real emphasis on not penalizing underdogs for losing their conference championship games. Instead of having Notre Dame at #5, they dropped to #7 since they can't play for a conference championship (I hope this continues so they will finally join a conference). Penn State and SMU lost their conference championship games, but I believe the committee only dropped them the absolute minimum they could. They easily could have had Penn State as the eight seed or bumped SMU from the playoff entirely, but they chose not to set a dangerous precedent.
They got the 12 teams right, but I don't think that Boise deserves a bye. Conference champs should be automatically in but not automatically get byes
Thanks for the info and thanks to Clemson for keeping a 3 loss team out of the playoffs.
Personally the biggest conversation was who is 5-8 not who was 12
We play Clemson and if we win we play against Arizona State
I still have confidence, but I now realize we probably wont win without a solid run game, and that includes a dual threat QB. Hook Em
We will win both but beat Oregon we put in Arch
Only teams with 10 wins should make the playoffs from this point forward
Never know what happens in any given game. But as an Irish fan, I'm not that concerned about their half of the bracket, outside of Georgia. Notre Dame SHOULD beat Indy, and I think they're better than PSU and WAY better than SMU. I don't know Boise St very well, but I would rather face them in a semi final than Oregon or ASU.
Looks like a lot of fun matchups.
Absolutely Irish going against a Georgia team with a banged up qb is a great path to the chip game
Looks like a lot of blowouts what u mean fun machups 😂
You'll get to know BSU a lot better when they play ND in Indiana next season. That will be an interesting game.
@ without jeanty will make it a Lo sided game wouldn’t it, just like the semifinal game this season
This is JUSTICE for Florida State. The committee got it right. 11-2 vs 9-3. Enough said!!!
Georgia got a cake walk to the natty top half of the bracket is stacked
Getting blown out by a mediocre Oklahoma team is what doomed Alabama
True.. plus their 3 losses on the season didn’t help…
Look though we got a fucked up system though. The fact that Oregon as thew only unbeaten has to beat 2 of the 3 best teams in the field to even get to the natty is absurd.
Here's my prospal next year after the first round playoff games we re-seed the teams with Oregon picking their second round opponent as the 1 seed
Let me know your thoughts
This is perfect! Perfect!
Crazy how you don’t put Clemson ranked over smu though .
7-0 conference vs. 4-3
I like the bracket. End of the day if you can’t compete for your conference championship why would you get a slot to compete for a national championship? I know there’s 3 title contenders in the BIG 10 and probably 4 in the SEC, but if you didn’t get it done in conference play then tough luck. Happy there’s limited speculation of “every SEC school will pommel the top ACC and Big 12 schools” prove it on the field, everybody gets a chance to show it
Because ranked wins should matter.
Beating uga and south carolina are better than any of clemsons or smu wins.
Committee probably let them in so people wouldn't complain and are alone setting the mustangs up for failure in a winter game at psu.
I blame smu for foolishly letting the kick returner have an opportunity
I think there should be no byes. Instead, some of the conference winners should be playing the byes.
I would tweak the SOS up a bit and do it more fairly. It seemed that they made it where the cupcake P4 teams are stronger than G5 teams, but when those team loses to G5 or FCS teams? It makes the SOS a joke. Look how they did the SOS for MWC schools? That is a joke period. Arizona State fans and all the former PAC 12 fans would tell you that those MWC teams are no joke to play them. They are tough teams to beat. UNR was 3-10 this year, but 6 games they lost by 7 or fewer games. They could be a 6 to 9 wins team with two of them they lost 7 points to Boise State and a 5 points lost to SMU. They made the cards stacked against everybody who is not named Big 10 and SEC.
They got it right considering the parameters.
The Dawgs got a bye then just got to handle whoever wins between Indiana and Notre Dame, sounds easy enough…
GA is in the easy bracket … planned for a easy path to the final… again a set up
@@nomad7734they earned it after going through the countries hardest schedule and being sec champs... not to mention they already played and beat the other half of the playoff bracket. What do you want a bunch of rematches?
@@nomad7734 ND isn't gonna be so easy
thing i don’t like is that penn state has a easier path to the final four than oregon does tbh. they face smu and if they win it’s boise st. i think clemson should be there and not boise st so it would be a bit harder (i don’t have thaaat much faith in boise st) but it is what it is
Ask Oregon if Boise is easy...
If SMU didn’t play a close game I think they would be out
Personally, im a fan of the bye because if you can't win your conferences, you're * probably * not good enough to win it all. If you are, you should have to prove it by going through the gauntlet
exceptions of B1G and SEC, I think Georgia and Texas both have a chance of winning it all, and PennState prob won't win it all but I wouldnt count them out
Alabama has NEVER played tough out of conference games. This is for college football not just the SEC. Alabama gets the benefit of the doubt every year so I am happy for once that they got the boot... SMU lost 2 games, both very close games and both against top 20 teams.
Yeah cuz 0-2 against ranked teams is a great playoff team, nice blowout for Penn State to have, give em two bye weeks before they lose to Georgia
You’re wrong about IU bro.
And while I think 5 conferences should get auto bids, putting four conference winners as byes instead of the top four makes it easy for stronger teams to walk into the semis since they will play that years cinderella team that won a weak conference. A more accurate T4 would be 1. Oregon 2. Georgia 3. ND and 4. Texas
It HAS to matter that, while SMU made its conference-title game and Bama didn’t, the SEC is still VASTLY superior to the ACC. It HAS to matter that SMU had an easier time qualifying for its conference-title game via a SOFT schedule. It HAS to matter that there’s a difference of 44 SPOTS between Bama and SMU in the strength of schedule rankings. It HAS to matter that, while Bama suffered some embarassing losses, SMU CANNOT TOUCH Bama’s KEY WINS. Conference title games are important, win or lose-but not all Conference titles are created equal, and it’s silly to pretend otherwise.
It's not perfect perfect...But it was pretty good. And if I was the commite, it would be hard for be, too. Boise State shoudn't even get a first round bye in my opinion. Besides Oregon, they have played nobody.
They still have 3 top 25 wins and 3 800 plus wins. They played Oregon real tight and delivered well in MWC title game. They also have best player in CF right now. That is better resume than PSU, Indiana, and a few others. You might not like it, but the big schools dont schedule non conference with Boise for a reason... they will likely lose.
After watching them all season I'm mind blown that Miami didn't make it but I understand.
Alabama would be the 1 seed if they played in the ACC
This be because I’m biased to NotreDame. But I don’t why they drop because of two teams ahead of them lost shouldn’t they jump the teams that lost? Let me know if I’m wrong.
Everyone who thinks asu would have had the fiesta bowl with the 3 seed is clueless
Bama fan here but if Indiana or SMU gets blown out we’re going to have TCU thing all over again
Not a bama fan but they deserved it over smu.
Miami over Indiana and ole miss over Tennessee
I think they got it perfect
Clemson beats the supposed number 8 team and moved up 1 spot. Smu moved back a whole 2 spots losing to a 16 seed. So if smu is supposedly the 8th best team why did clemson only gain 1 spot. Asu gained 3 spots beating the 15th team.
Congrats on your Sun Devils getting in and securing the bye!
Here come them damn dawgs !!
Preseason look at schedules the weakest power 4 schedule was smu
It didn't take Rhett Lashlee long to win a championship at SMU. The Mustangs won the AAC title a year ago in his second season in Dallas, the program's first conference championship since 1984. Now comes life in the ACC, and the schedule is manageable enough that the Mustangs could again be in position for double-digit wins. Their only Top 25 foe (Florida State) is at home on Sept. 28. In fact, four of their first five games are at home, and they end the season against Pittsburgh, Boston College, Virginia and Cal. Only the Virginia game is on the road.
Why should you make the playoffs when you lose to OU, Vandy and Tennessee?
Clemson should be 11. and SMU 12.
Strength of schcule bama should be in😮
And why is smu ranked higher than Clemson
You were super close
I'm happy with it. Bama should've been cut and they were. All conferences have been covered. ACC nit getting a bye, but getting 2 teams in. Will be fun. Go Boise.
SMU deserves to be in and i cant wait to until i see them vs Penn State
I agree, they beat Duke and Duke is probably the best team in the world!
No they dont lol they dont have a top 25 win and the 2 teams they played that were ranked they lost too not to mention they lost to Clemson that got blown out by Georgia and they lost to BYU witch everyone knows isnt that good
you literally can’t make an actual argument for why SMU deserves to get in lol
Why do they deserve to be in? Their best win is against Louisville, who had 4 losses, and they have zero wins against st ranked teams. I'm not saying Bama deserves it either. But to say SMU deserves a spot is just nonsense.
@@musheroomelive4915 Louisville and Duke are two of the first three teams out and i'd argue both are better than Missouri who is way worse than their ranking shows
@@ryanamburgy2791 I don’t agree with the rankings but you can’t make a hypothetical arguments bc then you gotta give both ways bc then we gotta bring in other hypotheticals the rankings are the rankings and if you’re arguing for SMU being right then idk why u wanna argue saying they are wrong lol
It’s finally perfected unless you’re the 1% in the corner. We all know who they are RoLl TiDe!!!