@MasterGabs: WE ALL Appreciate you brother, you're a true example of "Bridging the Gap". The intelligence and empathy to see ALL sides, The COURAGE to lovingly criticize, And the vocabulary arsenal to express and soften the shots fired without them losing impact power.
Followed you on IG.. Next level eloquence man.. I really appreciate this channel and this episode. This was one of the best gap bridging real conversations ever in the diaspora.
AA are not Africans we are ancient descendants of Israelites from the tribe of Judah(Jews). We were taken from the kingdom of Judah Negroland in West Africa. If you look for old map of Africa you will see Negroland.
You are calm, collected and articulate was a pleasure to listen to you. As a white fella in your country I found it interesting and I also learn from Ugandans on a daily basis All the best
Kwame Nkrumah one of my Pan African heroes once said, "I'm not African because I was born in Africa, I am African because Africa is born in me". Kwame Nkrumah attended Lincoln University an HBCU in 1935 to begin his undergraduate degree, and then went on to get his master's degree.#B1
You will never in the USA hear a Chinese person who is first Generation American tell a Chinese person who has many generations in the USA that they are no longer Chinese in fact they actually help each other all the way
@@sportreelz7025 you must be 3rd world did you know ...American blacks are the most powerful minority in America here's why more members in Congress than all the Latinos and Asian groups combined more mayor's in America cities than all the Latinos and Asian groups combined more black millionaires in America than the Latinos and Asian and Jews we have had a black president black first lady of a super power nation we have 2 members on the us supreme court senators black governor compared to black Americans Asians are nothing in America society dummy
I think it good that the young man who were born to Ugandan parents had the chance to experience being in the presence of Afro American people. But when you are in the presence of the elderly Afro Americans from the Deep South, especially Louisiana, then you really feel the African spirit. Southern Louisiana cuisines are similar to West African cuisines. I Love being around old Afro American people because that’s when I really feel the African spirit. Their presence is very peaceful, and they speak with wisdom.
@@marcuscole1994 I have to set the record straight. We were already here. Most of the food you see here comes from American soil. White and black Europeans who were also sent here to work plantations as less desirables ( slaves ) added some of their own touches but that’s about it. The only slaves brought to Louisiana were all from Caribbean islands and they were already in those islands for thousands of years. Caribbean’s we’re captured from their tribes and sent to America, Europe, and even to African nations because they were revered for their pearl diving and fishing skills💯🫱🏿🫲🏾
Those Africans are lying. Africans come to America and talk that TRASH. African Americans made it possible for Africans to come to America without slavery and Jim Crow Laws. If they come here with a higher standard then why are most Africans (literally) dirt poor? Africa is DISGUSTING. I’m African American over 55, and I’ve met one or two Africans who were good people. Others here can go back to Africa! ✊🏾🇺🇸
Coming from a prominent family in Haiti, I relate to this discussion. My first exposure to Africans, as a kid, was at a private school that I went to. There were two brothers that were a grade under me. They had a regal & confident way about them that stood out to me. Later when I saw their father, I was taken aback. The man was tall, dark & also had the same regal demeanor. I later found out that they were Nigerian. My personal experience as a first generation Haitian in Canada was a trip. In Canada, black culture was dominated by Jamaicans. Haitians speak french & Jamaicans speak english. That alone was an obstacle because Black American popular culture was also english. So we were right away seen as different. Even the clothes we wore to go to school were different. I remember wearing dress shoes & "church" pants to go to school. The other black students wore jeans, track pants & running shoes. Basically, we look the same but our cultural heritage is very different👊🏿
As a Jamaican, my first experience with Africans were also Nigerians, but they were like the average Jamaicans. They are confident people, and they don't look at Jamaicans as arrogant, contrary to other Caribbean countries. Haitians are amazing people, too. They are guarded, and I guess it's from not speaking English as a first language, but they are smart and down to earth. Very Adaptable and similar to some Jamaicans as well
Question..do non Haitians try to tell you that you are just an African? We're always told that. Wonder why people aren't comfortable with other people knowing who they are? I'm not pan African but was raised by one. I am a copper colored American though.
I don't always agree with Oshay, but I give credit where credit is due. He's doing a great job with the podcast and has pivoted well to conversations that bridge the gap between the diaspora. This show was interesting and I'm glad the Ugandan guy was able to learn from AA history and perspective in America.
I agree for the most part. I frequently dont agree with Oshay's other channel (and even did a "don't recommend") I'm proud for him on much of his work here. He also had a solid interview by the former Passport Bro guy - who also did a solid job creating a good interview with Oshay.
I wish you would not call yourselves boys and girls. All of us are mixed also. Happy my African, First Nation, and Scottish ancestors survived. Killing each othr is just crazy, and you are going to hell in gasoline draweres.
I have friends from several countries in Africa and the Caribbean, and what I find crazy is how we find ways to attack each other when we are all under attack by one specific group. Do you think that the division between us is by accident? That is why, although we universally have the greatest numbers, it is our division that keeps those with the least numbers in control. This has worked for millennia. Our unity frightens them more than death. No matter what country we are from, the colonizer has systematically divided and demeaned us and has become powerful as a result. What do we gain by fighting each other? Nothing. I say we find common ground because, like it or not, we are all we have.
The podcast is SLAPPING as they say here. I'm expecting to see the huge semi circular custom desk and green screen background soon. I grew up helping my grandfather castrate pigs and literally having to use gasoline to get the smell off before going to school the next day, being scared to get on a huge new horse my father had because I could see his muscles rippling and I would constantly lose the "stare down" a horse gives a stranger(which is why I prefer motorcycle today). I went to an HBCU on academic scholarship and totally relate to Oshay's comment about the pressure in those environments to be something that you are not.
This conversation is soooo needed❤ The lack of knowledge & understanding of our unique experiences and perspectives is by design. Together we are "The Global Majority"! Imagine that🎯 Peace!!!
It’s Upper Marlboro in PG county MD where affluent AA live. Potomac is predominately yt even though the RHOP are bw. Another great show. Glad to learn more about Agaba experience growing up in the USA 🇺🇸 as a privileged African immigrant family. Most of us overseas are usually from poor or lower middle class and only attain a higher status in Africa as a result of the remittances we send to Africa to develop ourselves. Thanks to the panel 👍🏿👌🏿👏🏿
well that's dumb logic. America on average has the richest Black People on the planet. One can ask ,why aren't they fixing the hoods and making sure every Black American is right.
The humility with which Maintain speaks his truths must be admired by anyone listening. He has the characteristics of the peacemaker and wisely avoids the arrogance of a shi-starter!
My goodness! I was feeling all this as it was being spoken. O'Shay, you a whole mess, LOL. I feel you 💯 on everything said. I want your channel to grow SO BIG in helping us unite and becoming the powerful people that we are, together, and not divided. It will take a lot of work but I thank you for all your hard work in getting this channel started and having these tough conversations most are afraid to have. Thanks to you all, from Sacramento CA ❤️
BRAVO!!! Oshay ... I've watch much of your content and I will say this, NOW young man, much respect. You told the absolute, unvarnished TRUTH. SUBSCRIBED!
Comparing oneself to another is the biggest red flag of insecurity. The lack of awareness is glaring. Money doesn't mean one has evolved or is self aware
Good questions, poor leadership, obsessive religiosity and belief in almost everything western. Africans tend to treat Africans with difference and abstract thinking as outliers to be ostracised. Immediate gains trump all.
You stating the obvious really. Just the same as the as the African Americans who go to places like South Africa to start businesses and become successful there, it's because of the Africans there. they weren't necessarily going to those places during Apartheid times were they?
@@madee764 lol nice try not the same at all...yall are literally dying on boats trying to get here Noone is dying to get to Africa. Maybe one day but not rn...we built this great opportunity while living in the enemies land under 400 years of enslavement If we did tht you should have been able to build better then us in your own land even with apartheid...thts truly why Africans don't like us we did more with less
@@MikeJones-qo7vt Stop it. Absolutely no one from my country is dying on a boat trying to go to some foreign land.............................. ...........Another Fact, America wasn't built by Black American intellect but rather just labour, so the Europeans could've used any other labour force and the result would've still been the same. Hence the freed men who went back to Africa and established countries like Liberia and Sierra Leone didn't do much better.
If you didn't fight for Africans to come you would just have more other immigrants from somewhere else. So it was a strategy to do that which means benefits to both sides.
@@durangobasics6195 how does Africans coming to America benefit the descendants of slavery tht built and fought.? Whats the trade off ? Africans think they are better
@@africanglobalnomad I knew somebody will mentioned jealousy lol. My question still stand thought what make him an elite? He has described his background his father worked for the worldbank so he was a member of the working class. According to the World Bank Group website, the Salaries at The World Bank Group range from an average of $47,317 to $163,117 a year that's good money but it doesn't make him an elite in Africa. I'm registered as a corporate lawyer in 4 countries (Rwanda, Cameroun, Mauritius and luxembourg) so i'm doing way better than most people in Africa does it make me an elite? The firm I work for is currently handling the estate of a family that inherited $300 million in Cameroon. So, trust me, I know what the African elite looks like and I know that neither I nor the people on the stage are elites. The notion of elite refers to a minority group of people who have, in a society, a prominent place. So when we think of the African elite we think of people like Aliko Dangote, Tony O. Elumelu, Mike Adenuga, Baba Ahmadou Danpullo, Paul Fokam Kammogne etc... not people from the working class. Contrary to the popular belief among African Americans, the richest Africans are not in America or Europe. So even though the majority of Africans are poor, there is an elite in the various African countries that have substantial fortunes. As a matter of facts the richest blacks are african.
@@africanglobalnomad If it was not for black americans leading human rights movement, africans wouldn't be allowed to enter US in the first place. I don't live in US but those who do should thank black americans and kiss their feet.
The reason Americans in STL or Detroit don't care about what's going on in Africa is because they're too busy trying to survive themselves. The moment that care should be given is when either people migrate to the others land. But lets face it both sides romanticize the other without knowing the true issues of the land. This is why understanding and respect should be had for each groups plight in their homeland so migrants can be taught about the issues and how to navigate the new space.
Wow, profound, intelligent convo. Educational, insightful, inspirational. The Conversation we needed to have. Nuff respect Bless up 🙏🙏❤️ Watching from the land downunder Sydney NSW
Oh, I loved this conversation and show. I just happened upon it and I am so glad I did. I have subscribed and look forward to watching much more. Thank you for being so "real!"
The sad shameful reality is our African forefathers put us all in this space. We are the same blood and we need to embrace each other with love for the benefit of the collective.
You see this scam spam in the comments above this one?.Ancestors may have put us in the predicament, but people who do this type of thing will keep the mistrust and judgment separating cultures.
Yes musical I surely agree with your sentiment but I tend to wear my positive cap a bit more because negative comes to humans without any effort on our part Love for the Love
I agree with this guy a little bit. I refer to myself as Black. I assume I am of African descent, however, I may never know where my family originated from. I have no connection to any nation in Africa. So I don’t call myself an African American. Having said that, I am proud to be Black, or African American, whatever I am. I know there is SOME LINAGE to Africa. I may never know what that is, but I’m proud it’s there.
AA, A are not one stop with the bullshit Africans have better love and appreciation for white folk than the very people that look like them maybe not exactly but skin folk right as a matter of fact africans like to shit on us black americans on every front dude im painting with a broad brush but to honest i personally have not felt a welcoming feeling around any of em and i see how they light up around white folk that's my experience and my take i personally feel that they think that they're better and always ready to wag their finger at us and thats just my take period
How and the hell do we black Americans track where we came from in africa we've literally been in america for centuries and no we are not African and a lot of us don't claim that shit neither we have tried and tried to ally with with no reciprocity so later for y'all and what y'all think
I'm a black man in America and i don't owe any African anything nor do I care about what they think of us. I'm a proud black American and I honor my ancestors and if any African got a problem with African Americans they can take it up with our ancestors
Right, you are and should be. However, the reverse is also true. An African doesn’t owe you anything too, especially on the point of being sold to slavers. I really struggle with this point, as a person living in this current time and wonder how I’m supposed to be guilty of something that happened generations long before I was to exist
@@eugenereeves418there goes your hood joker mind speaking. You imagine respect is one way street. Naah. In any case, no African is relying on ados for upkeep. Keep waiting for anybody to respect you alone. 😂
Why some of us act like only those taken away were made slaves? African were kept as slaves on the continent and colonization never ended. Let's just embrace each other.
This was my FAVORITE EPISODE BY FAR. I absolutely loved listening to the different experiences of each black man as they navigated their early years, highschool years, college years and now their respective careers. I grew up in DMV area in America; therefore, as an African, I totally can relate with GAB's experience. Although never apart the JACK AND JILL society; I knew about them and attaining higher education was top priority in my family. Any way, I could listen to each man talk about their experience all day long. GREAT JOB GUYS, I WAS TRULY ENTERTAINED WITH THIS EPISODE.
I absolutely love this discussion. Dialogue such as this is so needed in our community. Let's stop hating one another and understand that we share a common bond even if we speak in different languages and dialects. Brother Oshay raised a point that I as a African descendant born in AMerica struggle with when we encounter arrogance from pure blooded Africans, it is not our fault that our ancestors were sold. I still claim my birthright even if I was not born on the Motherland. It really hurts me when I am looked down upon by one of my own who was born or is second generation here in America. They look at us with such disdain. I really hurts, and I'm a 47-year-old male. Let's do better my people.
After watching you all love you deep and now is my go to channel. Oshay I’m from Sac too and glad you are in Africa. Tears came rolling down and will just say the COLINIZERS REALLY DONE BAD FIR US BUT WE MUST EDUCATE AND UNDERSTAND WITH EACH OTHER AND LOVE EACH OTHER. Been feeling not apart of the USA and need to here and see we all coming together in dialogue
This is such a great video/podcast!! The topics were super insightful and soo great to hear the different perspectives. That said, Anita Tunasandwich TOOK ME TF OUT!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. S/O to Master Gabs for that… love it.
Charles County Md. has overtaken P.G. County as most affluent majority black county. One of my childhood buddies is from S.E. Washington D.C. (Capital Hill I might add). He pretty much grew up in privilege all the while being drawn to the kids from the less fortunate side of things. He actively tried to escape his bubble in contrast to this brother from the DMV. Being "down" is a pressure on many Black American youth regardless of class.
We dont have hbcu's in the UK but WE have had ACS..African carribean societies in many universities for the past 20 years!!...you spoke for the black British experience there oshay and the black British brother didn't interject there but its all good..great show
@@marteza654 I'm fully aware..I'm not making an exact comparison at all...I loved drumline btw with nick Cannon from back in the day. All I'm hinting at is fine the UK black experience at universities can't numerically be compared to the states no way but its not fair to minimise presume it being a certain way and speaking for it when you weren't apart of it. Secondly, the dj black British brother i dunno if that was his experience at all as he didn't interject when it would have been nice and appropriate if he did so. Yes London is the main pocket of blacks in the UK but not the only for one and black ACS's are across uni's across the country and have been for the past 20 years. DMU in Leicester, Aston in brum, Coventry uni where I'm from and bucks new uni where i attended in high Wycombe. Respectfully would be nice to see some other black brits on this channel to speak on the black Brit experience which isn't a monolith and is ever changing. Its a story, dynamic and set of experiences few outside of the UK get to hear and appreciate and process for as varied and rich as its in its own niche way. Not comparable in numbers to the AA experience no way and that's what it is and the truth while it's a sizeable genuine apparent niche in itself not appreciated or understood internationally as what it is. Oshay speaks FOR it sometimes 🤣..I'd like to get a call up. Shoutouts to the international black community though..AA's, carribeans, continental Africans. In love 🙏🏽✊🏽🌍
As I have always stated the small percentage of immigrants from Asia, middle east Africa, Europe who come to USA are the upper class middle class of their Third World fourth world countries therefore they cannot be compared to the 50 million black Americans(descendants of USA chattel slavery) you must compare all the black Americans to their homeland, then you’ll see how black Americans a better off( economically/politically/educationally/socially/ etc)
Not necessarily. I can only speak from my own experience growing up in a predominantly white European country. As opposed to other immigrants my parents chose to move to a white working class neighbourhood because they wanted us to integrate as smoothly as possible; raising their kids in an immigrant neighbourhood seemed counterproductive at the time which I can understand. What they didn't foresee were the social problems that came with living around poor whites so just like African parents in America will tell their kids to stay away from dysfunctional inner city youths, they would tell us to avoid the same type of youths who just happened to be white. It had nothing to do with them coming from an elitist background but more about their conservative upbringing. When my father looked around at his neighbours, he saw dysfunction and he wanted no part of that. Even though they were living in the same building his circumstances were different, he fled a civil war whereas they never applied themselves in life. Many of my friends' parents were functional alcoholics and 1/3 of my childhood friends didn't even graduate high school, it was that bad.
Not true at all. The vast majority of African immigrants outside the continent left for better opportunities. Most literally come from poor families. Now you are absolutely right Black Americans are indeed well of economically I mean you're American the richest and most advanced country in the planet so obviously you have way more opportunities to succeed than Africans.
@@raylin5905 Nah it's a matter of upbringing, there are too many distractions in the West, I know because my brother who was raised back home has a completely different outlook on life. Whereas I bought into the nga caricature and started committing crime with youths just as confused as me he kept his nose in the books. Are all AA criminals? Certainly not, but your culture glorifies violence and this mentality is being exported worldwide, just look at England.
Unfortunately what Africans outside of the US see of black people is the buffoonery that Oshay talks alot about. But as a Kenyan I can tell you for free that we always root for fellow black people anywhere
You can literally find people saying negative things in the comment section. Obviously, things have improved. It was much harder in the past when people’s images were controlled by corporations. It’s much easier in this day and age of social media to see each other’s reality better through our own voices.
Same niggas that looked down on our food, clothing and accents growing up yea shutup man. All y’all do is try run from accountability which is why the community is how it is now. We both have been wrong. Pretending there’s not some that hate us on your side is weird
When Some Africans deny African identity to diasporans they do so out of ignorance both cultural and historical. They are also ignorant about the way European colonialism has impacted African cultures and in fact we have picked up many ways from our colonisers. Some people from Africa aren't aware of their ignorance and privilege when talking about diaspora cultures. Its best to stay silent until informed and I can say that we Africans have a lot to learn from the diaspora.
It is interesting to witness blk ppl that claim to be the “most African” as they lean on capitalism, tribalism, and individualism! I believe that this is one reason why so many have an issue w afro Americans specifically. As a collective we understand that there is no finish line when navigating in yt systems. We see how they miseducate, hinder our great that are not institutionalized , and hit reset anytime too many of us move up, so our end goal looks different from others that believe that they can blend in, put head down, and everything will be okay. On a global scale we all need to really sit back and think from a position of yt men! Only then can u truly see what is going on here. I believe that each of us holds a small piece of the puzzle they did that intentionally! Like in america we r taught ownership while Africans are taught education is the way to success! Imagine putting the two together and centering our ppl specifically!
No African will deny you of your identity, make the journey and discover yourself, no you will rather travel to Mexico and Europe get killed or humiliated.
Hi. Good vibes. Being from Haiti and knowing how we restore the dignity of our race and the flak we continue to get. It’s frustrating that not many want to unite
It's because of misconceptions, spend more time rewriting it, and you'll get a different result. I started learning more about Haitians as a Jamaican, and I feel as though I have become protective of them. They are literally our relatives, and I think for a country that doesn't speak English as a first language, they are very involved, smart, and adaptable.
More of these conversations, I think as Africans much as we have alot of struggles existing on this with continent, we have alot of room to give the rest of the diaspora in expressing themselves, we can also all (the black/African diaspora) learn to be more compassionate and sympathetic to each other's experiences, that's the only way we will look out for each other
I could not articulate this until watching you guys today. If i had give someone a real definite explanation of what modern black American culture was I'd say; Black culture is a multifaceted and diverse coping response to ongoing post-traumatic stress, shaped by historical and social factors, expressed through music and other forms of artistic expression, while also dealing with issues of identity, gender relations, and media representation.
Good show! I learned a lot but was reminded of my youth and school days! This is the kind of dialogue we should have with each other as indigenous brothers and sisters of dark-skinned nations. It is this kind of comradery that can establish powerful unity. We may come from different tribes and nations but we are the largest group of people on the planet.
Excellent subject and interview. 1 criticism...All professional hosts, must be engaged in the topic at hand, not distracted nor appearing disinterested in the subject even when not actively contributing to the conversation. This discipline is an attribute of professionalism. This lack was very evident sporadically from the middle to end of the podcast.
My nephew is a high level executive responsible for North American e-commerce (🇨🇦 🇺🇲 🇲🇽) with a major corporation. He spent 20 days in Tanzania 🇹🇿 and they treated him with accommodation, a driver, offered him land and an honorary title. I get the feeling they only want the Foundational Black Americans who can add value 🤔 They only wanted him to help establish an African Amazon company. Is it genuine 🤔
By the way, his neighbor is a physician with several clinics in Tanzania who had been asking him to visit, which is how he decided to go. He did radio interviews and was even welcomed by former President Mugafuli's family at the reserve established by the former president.
Money opens doors wherever you go, what you want a stranger to kiss your a$$ just because you decided to show up from out of nowhere? These people are too busy fighting poverty to care about your oversensitive, paranoid a$$. Ain't nobody worried about you so do your thing instead of overanalyzing everything. Shiiii....
"I get the feeling they only want the FBA that can add value." Well no sh! Sherlock, what business do you even have leaving your state if you're broke? If they'd mistreated your cousin you would have said the opposite, I know your type, you just like complaining.
much love to all of the First Frequency and First Born people of the world. As a 63yr old black american, i find this discussion to be necessary but so very heartbreaking for multiple reasons. for one thing it illustrates the destructive power that results from locking oneself to a LIMITED IDENTITY. when we join and identify with gangs, religions, cults, countries, ethnic groups, nations etc... , we tend to wall ourselves off from all the other groups that must use the SAME EARTHLY RESOURCES for survival. that then leads to conflict and struggle between the various different limited identities. a.k.a. US AGAINST THEM SYNDROME. ANOTHER THING THAT THIS VIDEO BRINGS OUT is why it was necessary for the POWERS THAT BE BUT SHOULD NOT BE, had to murder men that spoke of and worked for the uniting of all the struggling and cheated people of the world. men like malcom x, dr king, kwame nkruma, and all the others that spoke of unifying the exployted peoples to leverage for a more just and fair world. all of these men are systematically destroyed and disappeared. LIMITED IDENTITIES AR ONE OF THE BIGGEST OBSTICLES TO JUSTICE ON EARTH...
It’s not only African Americans. I have visited Italy with Italian American friends, and while there, the Italians called them “American”. Why? Because they were born in America, not Italy.
How about being African and the travelling back to the continent and the people from your area are telling me that I'm not African enough 😂😂😂😂....it was painful and hard to swallow...I felt a bit lost.
I absolutely adore this channel, and the guests' life experiences are truly invaluable. The host's Oshay resemblance to my dad is so cool, which is why I'm drawn to watching it 😂 weird. It's truly disheartening to hear some Africans deny the direct lineage of Black Americans to any specific people; it's so ignorant that I choose not to engage in such conversations. As a born Zambian, living in 🇨🇦 by way of the 🇺🇸 with most of my grandparents not born in Zambia but immigrating from other countries, I'm just one of millions who lack knowledge of my family lineage beyond four generations. However, I want to emphasize that I'm not trying to downplay the feelings of descendants of enslaved individuals or the impact of colonialism. My heart truly empathizes with you. We are all here in the present, and my hope is for us to understand, respect each other's differences and cultures, and ultimately, if it's meant to be, to love each other as we grow our strong communities with knowledgeable more accepting inclusive mindsets on all black ethnic sides.
I love the discourse and look forward to more episodes but I'd like to hear more from the women on the panel. Not saying that anyone is preventing them from talking...just need to hear from them more.
Brother Oshay, Sister Joanita! You have filled a gapping void in our quest to build a Greater African community. Brilliant conversations. I just have to get one thing off my chest, though... Sister Joanita, you are too FINE. Peace
Jack and Jill is for middle class and upper middle class families. It is definitely for parents that are professionals. I know because I often do speaking engagements with them. I have clients in Jack and Jill that are single moms. The rules are that you have to be sponsored by a member and then be voted in by current members after being observed for a few months and attending all meetings. ✨
bruh, the longer your vids became, the faster they pass through my headphones, Joa is silent most of the podcast but still gorgeous she's there for us :))
Very surprised in this great conversation and topic that 3 black men were so disrespectful of the woman on the panel. She spoke for approximately 1 minute asked a question and the brothers took over again. On her show.
Perhaps because she is Ugandan by birth and upbringing and hasn’t had a diasporan experience of living, hence couldn’t contributr as much and was a listener just like the rest of us
Again, it's all about culture. A culture to succeed is important for success. Don't blame someone else for your failures. Don't look around for an excuse. There's no systemic system keeping you down. It's all about you. Each of us is different and we deal with issues differently within our circumstances. You are the master of your destiny...no one else.
I'm not sure where the guy is saying there is no systemic racism. If he's talking about America he has never left his country and if he's living in America than he doesn't even know what systemic racism is to say it does not exist
from a Kenyan, AA need just to come home and invest their monies and energies to the motherland and make the continent great.East africans understand your struggle we grew up seeing that and just wanted you to come home where you are loved and where you see other fellow africans winning, as opposed to forced to put on the 'victimhood' drees
Black Americans are winning which is why so many Africans come to America. We are not "forced to put on the victimhood dress." We are victimized by systemic racism every day. Despite the treatment, we have so much success that Black people from around the diaspora come here and become successful in a way they could never do in their homeland. We have made their transition so seamless they do not know or question that Black Americans are fighting the system 24/7 to make sure they can flourish on our blood, sweat, and tears.
Btw a white man could not wait to tell me about his date with a Kenyan woman. He said she spent the date talking about how much she hated Black Americans.😀 Many Black people hate Blackness more than racism.
@@Be-Rean Africans cannot multiply their few dollars while on the continent. African money doesn't multiply in the U.S. It makes no sense for us to give up what we have built here while new immigrants (i.e., Kenyans, etc.) move to the US to take advantage of our hard work. Your people should return home and build their country with the money and skills they acquired in the US.
Oshay funny asl because that’s so true fr. Black Americans; We be quick to go up in arms when we don’t like something. Especially if we got the evidence 🧐🤣🎯
PG County has always been economically mixed. You can have one side with a lil bit off money. And then a couple blocks down, you got low income apartments
Lineage, not nationality. That was the greatest trick that was pulled on us. When did we stop being African (Ethiopian, Alkebulanian... or any other name of Africa prior to European incursion). Your parents, grandparents , great grandparents, great great grandparents, great, great great grandparents will always be your parents. When did the tree changed from the root. It never has and it never will. Lineage not nationality.
dear host of the show Kenganda, i am so flabergasted by the depth of my empathy towards the men on the spot who had mixed backgrounds such as myself with similar background as them. i would like to tell my story on your show. Since 2014 i have been on a quest a path a discovery of WHO I AM. The MOST HIGH told me that i am an Israelite when i thought i was african (though born in the Caribbean). i am working on my genealogy and reached back to the 1830's ....i have done DNA tests with 2 different companies and read through the Holy Scriptures over 50 times to get answers and i have found documents in the caribbean and worldwide that has blown my mind and everyone i showed these documents to..... this show needs a follow up...and i would be glad to participate. Thanks for reading this far.... Kobi
Nobody decides who's African. God made that decision and that is why your skin is black. We are all brothers and sisters and we must have one another's backs. One love!
As far as single mothers not getting into Jack & Jill. that's false. I have a cousin who's a single parent whose daughter was in the organization. I think it's so important that we as a whole learn each other's Black history. No matter where you're globally from. We'll find out that we have much more in common than we think.
Really enjoyed this conversation and the chance to tell a little bit of my story.
@MasterGabs: WE ALL Appreciate you brother, you're a true example of "Bridging the Gap". The intelligence and empathy to see ALL sides, The COURAGE to lovingly criticize, And the vocabulary arsenal to express and soften the shots fired without them losing impact power.
Followed you on IG.. Next level eloquence man.. I really appreciate this channel and this episode. This was one of the best gap bridging real conversations ever in the diaspora.
I enjoyed listening to your story. You are well rounded
AA are not Africans we are ancient descendants of Israelites from the tribe of Judah(Jews). We were taken from the kingdom of Judah Negroland in West Africa. If you look for old map of Africa you will see Negroland.
You are calm, collected and articulate was a pleasure to listen to you.
As a white fella in your country I found it interesting and I also learn from Ugandans on a daily basis
All the best
Kwame Nkrumah one of my Pan African heroes once said, "I'm not African because I was born in Africa, I am African because Africa is born in me". Kwame Nkrumah attended Lincoln University an HBCU in 1935 to begin his undergraduate degree, and then went on to get his master's degree.#B1
As a graduate of Lincoln’s political science department, thrilled to see this reference to Kwame Nkrumah 🔸🔹
You will never in the USA hear a Chinese person who is first Generation American tell a Chinese person who has many generations in the USA that they are no longer Chinese in fact they actually help each other all the way
Those little China men own y'all bush people
The ones who haven't breed out their race. Chinese are loyal to their race
@@sportreelz7025 and they eat dogs yulk
@@ovaaa They are still striving, let them eat all the dogs they want, it's them eating it, you eat cow, which is just an animal as dogs.
@@sportreelz7025 you must be 3rd world did you know ...American blacks are the most powerful minority in America here's why more members in Congress than all the Latinos and Asian groups combined more mayor's in America cities than all the Latinos and Asian groups combined more black millionaires in America than the Latinos and Asian and Jews we have had a black president black first lady of a super power nation we have 2 members on the us supreme court senators black governor compared to black Americans Asians are nothing in America society dummy
I think it good that the young man who were born to Ugandan parents had the chance to experience being in the presence of Afro American people. But when you are in the presence of the elderly Afro Americans from the Deep South, especially Louisiana, then you really feel the African spirit. Southern Louisiana cuisines are similar to West African cuisines. I Love being around old Afro American people because that’s when I really feel the African spirit. Their presence is very peaceful, and they speak with wisdom.
Black Americans in the south have the culture
I’m from Louisiana our cuisines are not African. We do not have African culture.
@@xocolatl3682 it’s black American creole a mix woe gumbo jambalaya ettouffe
@@marcuscole1994 I have to set the record straight. We were already here. Most of the food you see here comes from American soil. White and black Europeans who were also sent here to work plantations as less desirables ( slaves ) added some of their own touches but that’s about it. The only slaves brought to Louisiana were all from Caribbean islands and they were already in those islands for thousands of years. Caribbean’s we’re captured from their tribes and sent to America, Europe, and even to African nations because they were revered for their pearl diving and fishing skills💯🫱🏿🫲🏾
@@xocolatl3682 what part of Louisiana you from
This is one of the best Pan-African channels hands down! These conversations need to be had.
If you like pan African channels I bet (Black Power Media) will not disappoint.
Nahhh
Those Africans are lying. Africans come to America and talk that TRASH. African Americans made it possible for Africans to come to America without slavery and Jim Crow Laws. If they come here with a higher standard then why are most Africans (literally) dirt poor? Africa is DISGUSTING. I’m African American over 55, and I’ve met one or two Africans who were good people. Others here can go back to Africa! ✊🏾🇺🇸
Coming from a prominent family in Haiti, I relate to this discussion. My first exposure to Africans, as a kid, was at a private school that I went to. There were two brothers that were a grade under me. They had a regal & confident way about them that stood out to me. Later when I saw their father, I was taken aback. The man was tall, dark & also had the same regal demeanor. I later found out that they were Nigerian. My personal experience as a first generation Haitian in Canada was a trip. In Canada, black culture was dominated by Jamaicans. Haitians speak french & Jamaicans speak english. That alone was an obstacle because Black American popular culture was also english. So we were right away seen as different. Even the clothes we wore to go to school were different. I remember wearing dress shoes & "church" pants to go to school. The other black students wore jeans, track pants & running shoes. Basically, we look the same but our cultural heritage is very different👊🏿
As a Jamaican, my first experience with Africans were also Nigerians, but they were like the average Jamaicans. They are confident people, and they don't look at Jamaicans as arrogant, contrary to other Caribbean countries. Haitians are amazing people, too. They are guarded, and I guess it's from not speaking English as a first language, but they are smart and down to earth. Very Adaptable and similar to some Jamaicans as well
@@sportreelz7025 👊🏿🇭🇹❤️🇯🇲👊🏿
Question..do non Haitians try to tell you that you are just an African? We're always told that. Wonder why people aren't comfortable with other people knowing who they are? I'm not pan African but was raised by one. I am a copper colored American though.
Haiti is one of my favorite places in this whole world to be. Never forget that you too are regal.
I don't always agree with Oshay, but I give credit where credit is due. He's doing a great job with the podcast and has pivoted well to conversations that bridge the gap between the diaspora. This show was interesting and I'm glad the Ugandan guy was able to learn from AA history and perspective in America.
I agree for the most part. I frequently dont agree with Oshay's other channel (and even did a "don't recommend") I'm proud for him on much of his work here. He also had a solid interview by the former Passport Bro guy - who also did a solid job creating a good interview with Oshay.
I wish you would not call yourselves boys and girls. All of us are mixed also. Happy my African, First Nation, and Scottish ancestors survived. Killing each othr is just crazy, and you are going to hell in gasoline draweres.
I have friends from several countries in Africa and the Caribbean, and what I find crazy is how we find ways to attack each other when we are all under attack by one specific group. Do you think that the division between us is by accident? That is why, although we universally have the greatest numbers, it is our division that keeps those with the least numbers in control. This has worked for millennia. Our unity frightens them more than death. No matter what country we are from, the colonizer has systematically divided and demeaned us and has become powerful as a result. What do we gain by fighting each other? Nothing. I say we find common ground because, like it or not, we are all we have.
We have always dived ourselves
I meant divided
@@yusefnegao True, which explains a lot...
The podcast is SLAPPING as they say here. I'm expecting to see the huge semi circular custom desk and green screen background soon. I grew up helping my grandfather castrate pigs and literally having to use gasoline to get the smell off before going to school the next day, being scared to get on a huge new horse my father had because I could see his muscles rippling and I would constantly lose the "stare down" a horse gives a stranger(which is why I prefer motorcycle today). I went to an HBCU on academic scholarship and totally relate to Oshay's comment about the pressure in those environments to be something that you are not.
This conversation is soooo needed❤
The lack of knowledge & understanding of our unique experiences and perspectives is by design. Together we are "The Global Majority"! Imagine that🎯
Peace!!!
POWERFUL WORDS!
It’s Upper Marlboro in PG county MD where affluent AA live. Potomac is predominately yt even though the RHOP are bw. Another great show. Glad to learn more about Agaba experience growing up in the USA 🇺🇸 as a privileged African immigrant family. Most of us overseas are usually from poor or lower middle class and only attain a higher status in Africa as a result of the remittances we send to Africa to develop ourselves. Thanks to the panel 👍🏿👌🏿👏🏿
If they are so “elite “ why can’t they fix Africa
well that's dumb logic. America on average has the richest Black People on the planet. One can ask ,why aren't they fixing the hoods and making sure every Black American is right.
@@franksmith16 absolutely BS and my question still stands.
It's hate and tribalism
Easier said than done. You need to be high up in government for that
The humility with which Maintain speaks his truths must be admired by anyone listening. He has the characteristics of the peacemaker and wisely avoids the arrogance of a shi-starter!
My goodness! I was feeling all this as it was being spoken. O'Shay, you a whole mess, LOL. I feel you 💯 on everything said. I want your channel to grow SO BIG in helping us unite and becoming the powerful people that we are, together, and not divided. It will take a lot of work but I thank you for all your hard work in getting this channel started and having these tough conversations most are afraid to have. Thanks to you all, from Sacramento CA ❤️
BRAVO!!! Oshay ... I've watch much of your content and I will say this, NOW young man, much respect. You told the absolute, unvarnished TRUTH. SUBSCRIBED!
Comparing oneself to another is the biggest red flag of insecurity. The lack of awareness is glaring. Money doesn't mean one has evolved or is self aware
I never thought I'd agree with Tariq Nasheed but why can't Africans seem to get it straight on their continent?
Good questions, poor leadership, obsessive religiosity and belief in almost everything western. Africans tend to treat Africans with difference and abstract thinking as outliers to be ostracised. Immediate gains trump all.
Same reasons diaspora blacks cant hold a job or get just a simple college cert to get them a stable income.
If you can understand how the "hood" doesn't get better then its the same reason.
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So stupid. We are a minority thats outnumbered and dont control the system. Whats your excuse?
@@durangobasics6195Exactly
I love this conversation. We need more of these. ✊🏿❤️🖤💚
These are GREAT discussions that MUST be had in order to prosper in the future.
Africans just know tht all the opportunities u enjoy in America came from African Americans if it wasn't for us u couldn't do anything here
You stating the obvious really. Just the same as the as the African Americans who go to places like South Africa to start businesses and become successful there, it's because of the Africans there. they weren't necessarily going to those places during Apartheid times were they?
@@madee764 lol nice try not the same at all...yall are literally dying on boats trying to get here Noone is dying to get to Africa. Maybe one day but not rn...we built this great opportunity while living in the enemies land under 400 years of enslavement If we did tht you should have been able to build better then us in your own land even with apartheid...thts truly why Africans don't like us we did more with less
@@MikeJones-qo7vt Stop it. Absolutely no one from my country is dying on a boat trying to go to some foreign land..............................
...........Another Fact, America wasn't built by Black American intellect but rather just labour, so the Europeans could've used any other labour force and the result would've still been the same. Hence the freed men who went back to Africa and established countries like Liberia and Sierra Leone didn't do much better.
If you didn't fight for Africans to come you would just have more other immigrants from somewhere else. So it was a strategy to do that which means benefits to both sides.
@@durangobasics6195 how does Africans coming to America benefit the descendants of slavery tht built and fought.? Whats the trade off ? Africans think they are better
As ethiopian I think the "elite african" is such a stupid term. These people are anything but elite.
Exactly. What makes them elite?
Oh wow too much feelings!!!! They’re elite because they’re doing better than most of y’all. Hard to swallow 😂. Don’t be jealousy
@@africanglobalnomad I knew somebody will mentioned jealousy lol. My question still stand thought what make him an elite? He has described his background his father worked for the worldbank so he was a member of the working class. According to the World Bank Group website, the Salaries at The World Bank Group range from an average of $47,317 to $163,117 a year that's good money but it doesn't make him an elite in Africa. I'm registered as a corporate lawyer in 4 countries (Rwanda, Cameroun, Mauritius and luxembourg) so i'm doing way better than most people in Africa does it make me an elite? The firm I work for is currently handling the estate of a family that inherited $300 million in Cameroon. So, trust me, I know what the African elite looks like and I know that neither I nor the people on the stage are elites. The notion of elite refers to a minority group of people who have, in a society, a prominent place. So when we think of the African elite we think of people like Aliko Dangote, Tony O. Elumelu, Mike Adenuga, Baba Ahmadou Danpullo, Paul Fokam Kammogne etc... not people from the working class. Contrary to the popular belief among African Americans, the richest Africans are not in America or Europe. So even though the majority of Africans are poor, there is an elite in the various African countries that have substantial fortunes. As a matter of facts the richest blacks are african.
@@africanglobalnomad If it was not for black americans leading human rights movement, africans wouldn't be allowed to enter US in the first place. I don't live in US but those who do should thank black americans and kiss their feet.
@@showa546 you kiss their feet since it concerns you so much
The reason Americans in STL or Detroit don't care about what's going on in Africa is because they're too busy trying to survive themselves. The moment that care should be given is when either people migrate to the others land. But lets face it both sides romanticize the other without knowing the true issues of the land. This is why understanding and respect should be had for each groups plight in their homeland so migrants can be taught about the issues and how to navigate the new space.
Wow, profound, intelligent convo.
Educational, insightful, inspirational.
The Conversation we needed to have.
Nuff respect
Bless up 🙏🙏❤️
Watching from the land downunder Sydney NSW
Great conversation, discussing the similarities and differences. Keep up the good works.
As a light skinned African American from Baltimore who attended Tuskegee and Morgan State University, I found this interview EXTREMELY fascinating.
Oh, I loved this conversation and show. I just happened upon it and I am so glad I did. I have subscribed and look forward to watching much more. Thank you for being so "real!"
The sad shameful reality is our African forefathers put us all in this space. We are the same blood and we need to embrace each other with love for the benefit of the collective.
You see this scam spam in the comments above this one?.Ancestors may have put us in the predicament, but people who do this type of thing will keep the mistrust and judgment separating cultures.
Exactly. Just how they are doing Africans in Africa today
@@victoriaogunsanya9074 what?..
@@Silverbackugx I hear you
This is what White people tells you, and you believe them? Your forefathers were themselves victims
AA & A’s are one and the same people and let no one come between us!
No we're not. It's not that simple.
Yes musical I surely agree with your sentiment but I tend to wear my positive cap a bit more because negative comes to humans without any effort on our part
Love for the Love
I agree with this guy a little bit. I refer to myself as Black. I assume I am of African descent, however, I may never know where my family originated from. I have no connection to any nation in Africa. So I don’t call myself an African American. Having said that, I am proud to be Black, or African American, whatever I am. I know there is SOME LINAGE to Africa. I may never know what that is, but I’m proud it’s there.
AA, A are not one stop with the bullshit Africans have better love and appreciation for white folk than the very people that look like them maybe not exactly but skin folk right as a matter of fact africans like to shit on us black americans on every front dude im painting with a broad brush but to honest i personally have not felt a welcoming feeling around any of em and i see how they light up around white folk that's my experience and my take i personally feel that they think that they're better and always ready to wag their finger at us and thats just my take period
How and the hell do we black Americans track where we came from in africa we've literally been in america for centuries and no we are not African and a lot of us don't claim that shit neither we have tried and tried to ally with with no reciprocity so later for y'all and what y'all think
Great Topic, you all touched on some great points. Overall maturity, and understanding is necessary for us to coexist and cooperate.
I'm a black man in America and i don't owe any African anything nor do I care about what they think of us. I'm a proud black American and I honor my ancestors and if any African got a problem with African Americans they can take it up with our ancestors
Hmmmmm
Right, you are and should be. However, the reverse is also true. An African doesn’t owe you anything too, especially on the point of being sold to slavers. I really struggle with this point, as a person living in this current time and wonder how I’m supposed to be guilty of something that happened generations long before I was to exist
@wangarikariuki6522 well, take that up with your ancestors and the white man; this is why Africa is paying the price now and will continue to pay
@@wangarikariuki6522 I believe the suffering Africa went through the last century was karma for the slave trade that was largely paid off.
@@beezelsubwhat a nut job reasoning from you. Typical so not surprising.
The respect has to be there for black Americans regardless if there are born in the USA coming from foreign soil..
No these immigrants have to respect black Americans when they come to America not the other way around
@@eugenereeves418there goes your hood joker mind speaking. You imagine respect is one way street. Naah. In any case, no African is relying on ados for upkeep. Keep waiting for anybody to respect you alone. 😂
@@eugenereeves418We must both mutually respect each.
Why some of us act like only those taken away were made slaves? African were kept as slaves on the continent and colonization never ended. Let's just embrace each other.
This was my FAVORITE EPISODE BY FAR. I absolutely loved listening to the different experiences of each black man as they navigated their early years, highschool years, college years and now their respective careers. I grew up in DMV area in America; therefore, as an African, I totally can relate with GAB's experience. Although never apart the JACK AND JILL society; I knew about them and attaining higher education was top priority in my family. Any way, I could listen to each man talk about their experience all day long. GREAT JOB GUYS, I WAS TRULY ENTERTAINED WITH THIS EPISODE.
I absolutely love this discussion. Dialogue such as this is so needed in our community. Let's stop hating one another and understand that we share a common bond even if we speak in different languages and dialects. Brother Oshay raised a point that I as a African descendant born in AMerica struggle with when we encounter arrogance from pure blooded Africans, it is not our fault that our ancestors were sold. I still claim my birthright even if I was not born on the Motherland.
It really hurts me when I am looked down upon by one of my own who was born or is second generation here in America. They look at us with such disdain. I really hurts, and I'm a 47-year-old male. Let's do better my people.
I really enjoyed some of your last podcast including this one. Keep up the good work!
After watching you all love you deep and now is my go to channel. Oshay I’m from Sac too and glad you are in Africa. Tears came rolling down and will just say the COLINIZERS REALLY DONE BAD FIR US BUT WE MUST EDUCATE AND UNDERSTAND WITH EACH OTHER AND LOVE EACH OTHER. Been feeling not apart of the USA and need to here and see we all coming together in dialogue
Awesome podcast! More conversations like this need to happen. Keep up the great work!
This is such a great video/podcast!! The topics were super insightful and soo great to hear the different perspectives. That said, Anita Tunasandwich TOOK ME TF OUT!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. S/O to Master Gabs for that… love it.
The most educative discussion of all the Kenganda RUclips conversation so far, Keep it up !
Charles County Md. has overtaken P.G. County as most affluent majority black county. One of my childhood buddies is from S.E. Washington D.C. (Capital Hill I might add). He pretty much grew up in privilege all the while being drawn to the kids from the less fortunate side of things. He actively tried to escape his bubble in contrast to this brother from the DMV. Being "down" is a pressure on many Black American youth regardless of class.
You like a gossipin female
He know u typin dat shit?😂😂 female shit
All Africans don't think the same. Don't see Nigerian arrogance and assume all Africans behave the same way.
We dont have hbcu's in the UK but WE have had ACS..African carribean societies in many universities for the past 20 years!!...you spoke for the black British experience there oshay and the black British brother didn't interject there but its all good..great show
That's not the same he talking about over 100something çollege that been historical black built for black American
@@marteza654 I'm fully aware..I'm not making an exact comparison at all...I loved drumline btw with nick Cannon from back in the day. All I'm hinting at is fine the UK black experience at universities can't numerically be compared to the states no way but its not fair to minimise presume it being a certain way and speaking for it when you weren't apart of it. Secondly, the dj black British brother i dunno if that was his experience at all as he didn't interject when it would have been nice and appropriate if he did so. Yes London is the main pocket of blacks in the UK but not the only for one and black ACS's are across uni's across the country and have been for the past 20 years. DMU in Leicester, Aston in brum, Coventry uni where I'm from and bucks new uni where i attended in high Wycombe. Respectfully would be nice to see some other black brits on this channel to speak on the black Brit experience which isn't a monolith and is ever changing. Its a story, dynamic and set of experiences few outside of the UK get to hear and appreciate and process for as varied and rich as its in its own niche way. Not comparable in numbers to the AA experience no way and that's what it is and the truth while it's a sizeable genuine apparent niche in itself not appreciated or understood internationally as what it is. Oshay speaks FOR it sometimes 🤣..I'd like to get a call up. Shoutouts to the international black community though..AA's, carribeans, continental Africans. In love 🙏🏽✊🏽🌍
This video is one of the best video I have listened to on this channel.
As a Morehouse College Alumni I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
"come here girl, come get dis heritage!!!"
😂
🔥that's fire🔥
As I have always stated the small percentage of immigrants from Asia, middle east Africa, Europe who come to USA are the upper class middle class of their Third World fourth world countries therefore they cannot be compared to the 50 million black Americans(descendants of USA chattel slavery) you must compare all the black Americans to their homeland, then you’ll see how black Americans a better off( economically/politically/educationally/socially/ etc)
Not necessarily. I can only speak from my own experience growing up in a predominantly white European country. As opposed to other immigrants my parents chose to move to a white working class neighbourhood because they wanted us to integrate as smoothly as possible; raising their kids in an immigrant neighbourhood seemed counterproductive at the time which I can understand. What they didn't foresee were the social problems that came with living around poor whites so just like African parents in America will tell their kids to stay away from dysfunctional inner city youths, they would tell us to avoid the same type of youths who just happened to be white. It had nothing to do with them coming from an elitist background but more about their conservative upbringing. When my father looked around at his neighbours, he saw dysfunction and he wanted no part of that. Even though they were living in the same building his circumstances were different, he fled a civil war whereas they never applied themselves in life. Many of my friends' parents were functional alcoholics and 1/3 of my childhood friends didn't even graduate high school, it was that bad.
You really think there are 50 million black Americans( not immigrants) when the stats show 49 million all together?
Exactly. This is a point that no one ever brings out when doing these comparisons.
Not true at all. The vast majority of African immigrants outside the continent left for better opportunities. Most literally come from poor families. Now you are absolutely right Black Americans are indeed well of economically I mean you're American the richest and most advanced country in the planet so obviously you have way more opportunities to succeed than Africans.
@@raylin5905
Nah it's a matter of upbringing, there are too many distractions in the West, I know because my brother who was raised back home has a completely different outlook on life. Whereas I bought into the nga caricature and started committing crime with youths just as confused as me he kept his nose in the books. Are all AA criminals? Certainly not, but your culture glorifies violence and this mentality is being exported worldwide, just look at England.
I don’t know any black American that feels some type of way towards Africans but yet y’all always have some distain for us
This is definitely a lie
Unfortunately what Africans outside of the US see of black people is the buffoonery that Oshay talks alot about. But as a Kenyan I can tell you for free that we always root for fellow black people anywhere
You can literally find people saying negative things in the comment section. Obviously, things have improved. It was much harder in the past when people’s images were controlled by corporations. It’s much easier in this day and age of social media to see each other’s reality better through our own voices.
@larrybad9821 unfortunately the perceptions and feelings were mutual.
Same niggas that looked down on our food, clothing and accents growing up yea shutup man. All y’all do is try run from accountability which is why the community is how it is now. We both have been wrong. Pretending there’s not some that hate us on your side is weird
When Some Africans deny African identity to diasporans they do so out of ignorance both cultural and historical. They are also ignorant about the way European colonialism has impacted African cultures and in fact we have picked up many ways from our colonisers. Some people from Africa aren't aware of their ignorance and privilege when talking about diaspora cultures. Its best to stay silent until informed and I can say that we Africans have a lot to learn from the diaspora.
It is interesting to witness blk ppl that claim to be the “most African” as they lean on capitalism, tribalism, and individualism! I believe that this is one reason why so many have an issue w afro Americans specifically. As a collective we understand that there is no finish line when navigating in yt systems. We see how they miseducate, hinder our great that are not institutionalized , and hit reset anytime too many of us move up, so our end goal looks different from others that believe that they can blend in, put head down, and everything will be okay. On a global scale we all need to really sit back and think from a position of yt men! Only then can u truly see what is going on here. I believe that each of us holds a small piece of the puzzle they did that intentionally! Like in america we r taught ownership while Africans are taught education is the way to success! Imagine putting the two together and centering our ppl specifically!
No African will deny you of your identity, make the journey and discover yourself, no you will rather travel to Mexico and Europe get killed or humiliated.
Well said!!!
PS: I love all of my diasporan brothers and sisters. We are 1. We just have to realize it. End the tribalism...❤️🖤💚
You would have to compare elite african culture to elite african american culture.
Wooooowwww this turned out WAAAYY BETTER than expected whew!
Thats why I think its best to stay with you own group..I'm Black and that's who I rock with..we're just different people
Hi. Good vibes. Being from Haiti and knowing how we restore the dignity of our race and the flak we continue to get. It’s frustrating that not many want to unite
THEY SEE YOU FOR WHAT YOU SAYIN RIGHT THERE N DAT DESCRIPTION
It's because of misconceptions, spend more time rewriting it, and you'll get a different result. I started learning more about Haitians as a Jamaican, and I feel as though I have become protective of them. They are literally our relatives, and I think for a country that doesn't speak English as a first language, they are very involved, smart, and adaptable.
I AM LOVING THIS CONVERSATIONS VERY INTERESTING .🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
I can relate to the nickname thing. Blacks always give you a nickname if they can't pronounce your name
More of these conversations, I think as Africans much as we have alot of struggles existing on this with continent, we have alot of room to give the rest of the diaspora in expressing themselves, we can also all (the black/African diaspora) learn to be more compassionate and sympathetic to each other's experiences, that's the only way we will look out for each other
I could not articulate this until watching you guys today. If i had give someone a real definite explanation of what modern black American culture was I'd say; Black culture is a multifaceted and diverse coping response to ongoing post-traumatic stress, shaped by historical and social factors, expressed through music and other forms of artistic expression, while also dealing with issues of identity, gender relations, and media representation.
Good show! I learned a lot but was reminded of my youth and school days! This is the kind of dialogue we should have with each other as indigenous brothers and sisters of dark-skinned nations. It is this kind of comradery that can establish powerful unity. We may come from different tribes and nations but we are the largest group of people on the planet.
Excellent subject and interview. 1 criticism...All professional hosts, must be engaged in the topic at hand, not distracted nor appearing disinterested in the subject even when not actively contributing to the conversation. This discipline is an attribute of professionalism. This lack was very evident sporadically from the middle to end of the podcast.
You are right sorry about that
My nephew is a high level executive responsible for North American e-commerce (🇨🇦 🇺🇲 🇲🇽) with a major corporation. He spent 20 days in Tanzania 🇹🇿 and they treated him with accommodation, a driver, offered him land and an honorary title. I get the feeling they only want the Foundational Black Americans who can add value 🤔 They only wanted him to help establish an African Amazon company. Is it genuine 🤔
I am very wealthy and I ain't in the business of getting played. Been there and done that..🥊
By the way, his neighbor is a physician with several clinics in Tanzania who had been asking him to visit, which is how he decided to go. He did radio interviews and was even welcomed by former President Mugafuli's family at the reserve established by the former president.
Call the corporation and ask them
Money opens doors wherever you go, what you want a stranger to kiss your a$$ just because you decided to show up from out of nowhere? These people are too busy fighting poverty to care about your oversensitive, paranoid a$$. Ain't nobody worried about you so do your thing instead of overanalyzing everything. Shiiii....
"I get the feeling they only want the FBA that can add value."
Well no sh! Sherlock, what business do you even have leaving your state if you're broke? If they'd mistreated your cousin you would have said the opposite, I know your type, you just like complaining.
much love to all of the First Frequency and First Born people of the world.
As a 63yr old black american, i find this discussion to be necessary but so very heartbreaking for multiple reasons.
for one thing it illustrates the destructive power that results from locking oneself to a LIMITED IDENTITY.
when we join and identify with gangs, religions, cults, countries, ethnic groups, nations etc... , we tend to wall ourselves off from all the other groups that must use the SAME EARTHLY RESOURCES for survival.
that then leads to conflict and struggle between the various different limited identities. a.k.a. US AGAINST THEM SYNDROME.
ANOTHER THING THAT THIS VIDEO BRINGS OUT is why it was necessary for the POWERS THAT BE BUT SHOULD NOT BE, had to murder men that spoke of and worked for the uniting of all the struggling and cheated people of the world.
men like malcom x, dr king, kwame nkruma, and all the others that spoke of unifying the exployted peoples to leverage for a more just and fair world. all of these men are systematically destroyed and disappeared.
LIMITED IDENTITIES AR ONE OF THE BIGGEST OBSTICLES TO JUSTICE ON EARTH...
It’s not only African Americans. I have visited Italy with Italian American friends, and while there, the Italians called them “American”. Why? Because they were born in America, not Italy.
Their way of life is American
Black American would benefit from being friends with African American to understand about their race, and identity.
How about being African and the travelling back to the continent and the people from your area are telling me that I'm not African enough 😂😂😂😂....it was painful and hard to swallow...I felt a bit lost.
It happens to all Africans raised in the diaspora, not just FBA's.
@@kr3539 very true.
@@kr3539 even those who overstay overseas
Lol same thing happens to coastal countries in East Africa though. Call us caucasian, mixed asian 😆 etc.
@@keshi5541 damn that is heartless 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you Brothers and Sista! This is true enlightenment.
Morehouse stand up!!!
You went to school with Sean King 👑 my brotha 🤣😂 that's Dope
I absolutely adore this channel, and the guests' life experiences are truly invaluable. The host's Oshay resemblance to my dad is so cool, which is why I'm drawn to watching it 😂 weird. It's truly disheartening to hear some Africans deny the direct lineage of Black Americans to any specific people; it's so ignorant that I choose not to engage in such conversations. As a born Zambian, living in 🇨🇦 by way of the 🇺🇸 with most of my grandparents not born in Zambia but immigrating from other countries, I'm just one of millions who lack knowledge of my family lineage beyond four generations. However, I want to emphasize that I'm not trying to downplay the feelings of descendants of enslaved individuals or the impact of colonialism. My heart truly empathizes with you. We are all here in the present, and my hope is for us to understand, respect each other's differences and cultures, and ultimately, if it's meant to be, to love each other as we grow our strong communities with knowledgeable more accepting inclusive mindsets on all black ethnic sides.
I love the discourse and look forward to more episodes but I'd like to hear more from the women on the panel. Not saying that anyone is preventing them from talking...just need to hear from them more.
Being Black in America is at times polarizing and always eye opening, even when you're born here with advantages.
Brother Oshay, Sister Joanita! You have filled a gapping void in our quest to build a Greater African community. Brilliant conversations. I just have to get one thing off my chest, though... Sister Joanita, you are too FINE. Peace
This was a 5 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾. Really hit my soul💪🏾✊🏾🖤
I’m DC Native……. And I have never heard 👂🏾 of Jack & Jill group…. WOW!!!
Jack and Jill is for middle class and upper middle class families. It is definitely for parents that are professionals. I know because I often do speaking engagements with them. I have clients in Jack and Jill that are single moms. The rules are that you have to be sponsored by a member and then be voted in by current members after being observed for a few months and attending all meetings. ✨
Can you explain why Jack and Jill is "FOR" middle-class and upper-class families???
We are NOT the same blood, we are NOT the same people, we are NOT the same culture. We are the original Americans who have melanated skin.
Lol come get this heritage 😂 I need to hear about interactions with more of the Caribbean diaspora 😊 Because I know there’s a lot to say about 🇯🇲
bruh, the longer your vids became, the faster they pass through my headphones, Joa is silent most of the podcast but still gorgeous she's there for us :))
She’s the moderator also note that she’s yet to travel overseas so it’s not surprising that she has little to contribute in said regards
😂😂😂 love this podcast…. Come catch this heritage!!! 😂😂😂
Kenganda about to take off !
@kenganda ìm a lil dusty thats y this jawn 2 dollars. You brought up Philly ìm from here. Appreciate yo content on both channels frfr.
Very surprised in this great conversation and topic that 3 black men were so disrespectful of the woman on the panel. She spoke for approximately 1 minute asked a question and the brothers took over again. On her show.
Perhaps because she is Ugandan by birth and upbringing and hasn’t had a diasporan experience of living, hence couldn’t contributr as much and was a listener just like the rest of us
Shout out to my Morehouse Brotha was that Dr. Braithwaite?
Very nice discussion, many more blessings and prosperity to all of you❤
Again, it's all about culture. A culture to succeed is important for success. Don't blame someone else for your failures. Don't look around for an excuse. There's no systemic system keeping you down. It's all about you. Each of us is different and we deal with issues differently within our circumstances. You are the master of your destiny...no one else.
I'm not sure where the guy is saying there is no systemic racism. If he's talking about America he has never left his country and if he's living in America than he doesn't even know what systemic racism is to say it does not exist
everyone needs to understand that our jokes sooth our pain, its really not personal, we just joke
It's destructive culture.
So you hate yourselves and take it out on other people. Got it 👍
from a Kenyan, AA need just to come home and invest their monies and energies to the motherland and make the continent great.East africans understand your struggle we grew up seeing that and just wanted you to come home where you are loved and where you see other fellow africans winning, as opposed to forced to put on the 'victimhood' drees
You people are dying trying to get out of Africa
Black Americans are winning which is why so many Africans come to America. We are not "forced to put on the victimhood dress." We are victimized by systemic racism every day. Despite the treatment, we have so much success that Black people from around the diaspora come here and become successful in a way they could never do in their homeland. We have made their transition so seamless they do not know or question that Black Americans are fighting the system 24/7 to make sure they can flourish on our blood, sweat, and tears.
Btw a white man could not wait to tell me about his date with a Kenyan woman. He said she spent the date talking about how much she hated Black Americans.😀 Many Black people hate Blackness more than racism.
@@Miss-Ann-Thrope imagine if you took your few dollars to africa? They will multiply thats why the africans are there
@@Be-Rean Africans cannot multiply their few dollars while on the continent. African money doesn't multiply in the U.S. It makes no sense for us to give up what we have built here while new immigrants (i.e., Kenyans, etc.) move to the US to take advantage of our hard work. Your people should return home and build their country with the money and skills they acquired in the US.
THE MOST IMPORTANT REALITY OF OUR IDENTITY IS WHO ARE WE IN RELATION TO THE CREATOR GENETICALLY, BIOLOGICALLY AND HISTORICALLY.
Kenganda is going to take off.
Great discussion,a frank and honest respectful dialogue.
Oshay funny asl because that’s so true fr. Black Americans; We be quick to go up in arms when we don’t like something. Especially if we got the evidence 🧐🤣🎯
PG County has always been economically mixed. You can have one side with a lil bit off money. And then a couple blocks down, you got low income apartments
Stop lying bamma
@@ovaaa I'm lying about what I grew up around. Ok weirdo
Lineage, not nationality. That was the greatest trick that was pulled on us. When did we stop being African (Ethiopian, Alkebulanian... or any other name of Africa prior to European incursion). Your parents, grandparents , great grandparents, great great grandparents, great, great great grandparents will always be your parents. When did the tree changed from the root.
It never has and it never will. Lineage not nationality.
I believe it time for we the African British Caribbean black American to unite which combine all our history together
dear host of the show Kenganda, i am so flabergasted by the depth of my empathy towards the men on the spot who had mixed backgrounds such as myself with similar background as them. i would like to tell my story on your show. Since 2014 i have been on a quest a path a discovery of WHO I AM. The MOST HIGH told me that i am an Israelite when i thought i was african (though born in the Caribbean). i am working on my genealogy and reached back to the 1830's ....i have done DNA tests with 2 different companies and read through the Holy Scriptures over 50 times to get answers and i have found documents in the caribbean and worldwide that has blown my mind and everyone i showed these documents to.....
this show needs a follow up...and i would be glad to participate.
Thanks for reading this far....
Kobi
This is one of my favorite channels, Oshay good job on this one!! West Coast stand up🤣🤣
Best show on RUclips
Hands down
Nobody decides who's African. God made that decision and that is why your skin is black. We are all brothers and sisters and we must have one another's backs. One love!
Im black. I wouldn’t want to be any other race.
As far as single mothers not getting into Jack & Jill. that's false. I have a cousin who's a single parent whose daughter was in the organization. I think it's so important that we as a whole learn each other's Black history. No matter where you're globally from. We'll find out that we have much more in common than we think.
This show got that heat 🔥🔥🔥
Very insightful conversation; Great podcast!
I understood your intro DJ! 😆 🇩🇲🇻🇮
Thank you 😂 🇩🇲 🇰🇳