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@oldhillbillybuckkowalski Well doc, I HAVE been inhaling alot of raw chicken vapor lately... "Raw chicken vapor?" Yeah, all the cool kids are doing it. On the street it's called "smoking the cock"
He didn't test the most important one - a Nagant revolver. No cylinder gap means no danger from escaping gases. Also means you can use a suppressor on one. The trigger pull sucks though, since it moves the cylinder forward to close the gap after rotating it.
So I was used to shooting my semi-autos. Using a high support hand on the slide was normal. After a long time of not shooting my revolvers I decided to take them to the range. I didn't pay attention where my support hand was when I pulled the trigger on my .44 super redhawk. The pain was sooo fast and sharp! I refused to look at my hand for several seconds thinking I was going to be missing the last digit of my thumb. Thank God it was still there. The pain from the burn was terrible, but the relief of seeing I still had a complete thumb drowned it out. Please folks pay attention. Good day everyone!
I had a similar experience many years ago (without a revolver) when I was serving as a Marine stationed on Okinawa in 1970. It was at a company (Marine Headquarters company) beach picnic and the beer was flowing. We were quite well sloshed and someone came up with a game of chicken with firecrackers. They were just the small ones about a 1/4" in diameter by about 1 1/2" long. Two guys each held a firecracker in their hand and two other Marines lit the fuses and the first guy to throw it lost. I won our round as the other Marine threw his first and then I decided to throw mine, however, yeah it went off in my hand. The pain was instant and sharp and I grabbed a rag off of a table and held it on my hand. I figured that I lost a finger or two but after a bit, with no blood showing, I opened my hand. No broken skin but I had three sore fingers and a thumb for a week or so.
Former explosives guy here. For moving/cutting “squishy” things like dirt, wood, fingers, etc the combination of impulse intensity and duration is what moves the most material. That s why some of the smaller cartridges had higher pressure but did less damage. The impulse duration is too short.
As an X frame 460 owner, can concur about keeping the fingies away from the blasties. By far my most violent pistol and probably most fun to shoot. Best hunting revolver ever.
First time I shot a 460, DOOM (2016) just came out. I was at my uncle's range and he just got it. I figured I'd shoot it one-handed because why not. Found out why not pretty easily when I almost smacked myself in the forehead with the damn barrel lol.
My buddies were on a desert ride on our motorcycles, Ralph brought a 44 mag. Ralphs 44 mag was so out of time, guys standing off to the side behind the operator were pretty much all bleeding from out of time shaved copper. It also had an unsafe trigger. Every guy who shot it (experienced shooters btw) stepped back after the first shot and said, no thank you. Literally touching the trigger the 44 fired, to say a "Hair" trigger was an understatement. Yes I understand the keep your hands on the grips and not near the cylinder gap, flame cuts are real and people have lost digits putting fingers too far forward or burning a wrist to try to support big recoil, don't do it, keep body parts behind the trigger guard, and put a finger on the trigger only when on target and ready to shoot. These are what I consider unsafe firearms, not ones that throw flame from a cylinder gap, thats just how revolvers work. Good job on showing the dangers of hand placement, some people may not have known this
I suspect the cylinder gap is as big a factor as is the cartridge. A 20,000 psi round with 0.006” gap will likely do more damage than a 40,000 psi round with 0.002” cylinder gap.
I bet there is a bell curve sweet spot for gap to damage ratio. Less than X gap and you wont get damage because it seals decently, more than Y gap and you wont get damage because it vents decently. Somewhere between X and Y is your inside out nub.
@@jong2359 No doubt, but I would expect the gap would have to be huge (0.1”) or greater before the pressure drops fast enough to avoid damage to a finger.
I think it’s the opposite. The smaller the gap the higher the pressure, and velocity of the exiting gases. Though, like others have said, there’s probably a sweet spot.
@@ashe1.070 Yes, that is my point. A 20,000 psi round with a gap in the sweet spot will do more damage than a 40,000 psi round well outside its sweet spot. That is my looking only at cartridge pressure is meaningless without also looking at the cylinder gap.
So, what I'm getting is, if you want to protect your fingers, always strap a chicken leg to your gun as a buffer. Solid advice, I'm off to buy a year's supply of legs.
There was once a revolve that was sealed. As I recall it was a Nagant. The brass case was as long as the cylinder. Bullet was seated below the case mouth. The chambers in the cylinder were flared at the mouth. The end of the barrel was tapered to match the flare. As you operated the revolver the cylinder not only revolved but moved forward and backward. This forward movement pushed the flare in the cylinder against the taper on the barrel. This allowed the mouth of the case to extend into the barrel. This sealed the barrel. Giving higher velocities than others revolvers of the day.
Explain why you only load 1 cartridge in these hand cannons if letting someone unfamiliar with them fire it. Recoil can be enough to have an unintended double tap happen, 2nd round could have an unintended de-doming.
Flame cutting of the frame's top strap is a real deal, so if it's enough to work its way through steel, our delicate fingies are no real challenge. 'MInd the gap' isn't just for train/subway platforms.
Are you old enough to remember the .357 Maximum? I always wanted to see it used in a lever action Winchester but the erosion from it's flame cutting put an end to the cartridge, altogether. In a rifle, it would have burned out the leade about like a .220 Swift.
I always loved that guy that had only shot semi autos get a warning on how to hold his 357 with him saying he knows everything. Followed by him having his hand in a pitcher of ice for a week
That's the biggest weak point of the 329PD and other scandium frame revolvers. It needs a steel plate right above the cylinder gap otherwise the blast will cut right trough the soft frame. And it has to be replaced every 1,000 rounds or so.
So the variables of gap size, loaded pressure, rate of powder burn and perhaps bullet weight might all make small differences in outcome within any one of the particular calibers?
Maybe that is why he listed the gaps? Maybe you should watch the videos you comment on? As it is, you look like the kid who forgets to write his name on his paper.
I've got a BFR in 454 Casull and I already figured that putting any body part anywhere near that cylinder gap when firing would be an extremely bad idea. But thanks for the footage confirming it.
Chicken-leg-shaped space invaders have made it to earth to destroy all life! But, thankfully, to make things fair, they have agreed to strap themselves against the cylinder gap of a revolver of your choice. Today we find out which revolver you should choose to save life as we know it.
Hand placement on semis and revolvers is critical for safety. It is one of the early lessons I teach new shooters. I might include your video. Good job.
A lot of people reference barrel cylinder gap, that's one thing I like about Dan Wesson revolvers. The way the barrel mounts you can adjust barrel gap. I keep mine set to .002. about minimum. To prevent buildup binding the cylinder.
I liked the ocean depth pressure reference. I'd think the gun, and specifically its cylinder gap, would be a big factor too. Either way, point well made. Keep body parts away!!
Thanks for posting. I've always practiced keeping fingers clear firing revolvers. Saw a man destroy two fingers, firing a poorly timed .357. Back in 1976, I was just a kid. Imprinted on my brain.
You’ve got a knack for making informative content that is still funny. And, you do it without making it impossible for me to let my 12 y/o son watch it. Thanks for your excellent work my friend!
There was a lot covered here I knew , some I've experienced but I had no idea the blowby of some cartridges can do that damage. I have a 22 revolver and have felt a sample of the blowby. My favorite rounds to shoot out of it are shorts. Thanks for sharing
Thanks, Banana, for an original and humorous experiment that shows potential injury to an extended finger from gasses released at the cylinder gap upon firing a revolver. But one revolver not tested - a very expensive one - actually tries to reduce the hot gases streaming out at the cylinder gap. The trigger pull advances the cylinder to contact the forcing cone, making a metal-to-metal contact which attempts to seal off the gases released upon firing the cartridge. This is an ingenious but relatively expensive design, an attempt to make contact between the two parts become metal-to-metal AT FIRING, BUT NOT BEFORE, an ingenious but expensive attempt to seal off the gas release.
I was wearing wool gloves when I had my finger to close to the cylinder gap on a snub nosed 38 special. I was 12 and my first time shooting a revolver. My fingers were numb for 2-3 days. The fleece on the inside of the wool was burned and missing.
Good video! I was going to bring up the difference in cylinder gaps, but I see many others already did, so I won't. I wasn't expecting the .460 to be worse than the .500!
Dude, you are the wildest, craziest most unique and without doubt the best content creator on RUclips. Been a long time subscriber and enjoy your channel immensely. I really like that .460.
I had a .357 Mag and a few boxes of blanks. I used paper to test what comes out of the barrel and out of the cylinder gap. You would not want any part of your body within a few inches of either part of the gun, even when using blanks.
I started shooting handguns when I joined the military, using the good old beretta M9/92FS. My first revolver was a Chiappa Rhino 60DS in .357 Mag. I told my coworker I was shooting with about the cylinder gag and how he would need to grip it differently. My first shoot with my Rhino I gripped it like any of my semi auto pistols, I only made that mistake once
Excellent presentation. Thank you. A really good one. That said, there is a lot of pressure loss from that cylinder gap. I wonder how that impacts the final projectile velocity? I would also guess that some revolvers are better than others. I wonder how this all compares between brands, revolvers, autos and rifles?
Very very beautiful collection . One of these days i want the 460 S&W . Simply love its top end power as well as accepting a few other lower powered alternatives .
You just confirmed what I have known for over 40 years. I was a bit shocked at the results of the last 3 rounds though. Spraying the Stainless Steel revolvers with some brake cleaner should help speed up the process of cleaning the chicken grease off of them. I have never tired it on blued steel.
MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼…………………………………………………………….8” barrel Dan Wesson 44 magnum, first time I took it out to shoot it I learned a hard lesson. I was shooting it two handed at first, then as confidence rose, one handed like Dirty Harry. Then I decided to go for “ accuracy “ and put the barrel on my left forearm ( summer time so sleeveless T-shirt weather) and I pulled the trigger. After a crap ton of four letter words, burnt hair, and burnt flesh, I learned the hard way about barrel/cylinder gap! That was 40+ years ago and I’ve never made that mistake again and no, I don’t drop the revolver. I did put it back on the gun rug real quick, I still have that gun too.
I had a teacher in elementary school who was missing part of his index finger from when he was a cop in the 70s and 80s. He was in a struggle with some kid who had been breaking into houses. Guess the kid had a revolver and in the struggle he tried to grab the gun and the kid fired and because he had hild of the cylinder it took part of his finger. He passed away but i will always remember the stories he probably shouldnt have been telling children lol
First time I took my 460 S&W to the range, I didnt even think about it, rested the barrel on a sand bag close to the cylinder, took a shot got sand blasted in the face and destroyed the sand bag...the side gas is insane!
I built a 36 Navy and 44 Army black powder handguns at 13-14 yo. I put my left hand around the cylinder holding it and fired. I hand black dots embedded deep in the web of my hand for months.
A few years ago, some genius with a 460 managed to get his pinky finger over the cylinder gap. When he fired the gun, it severed his little finger. He tried to sue S&W saying that there was no warning in instruction manual. The lawyer for S&W showed the Judge in the manual where is said in great big red letters, with illustrations "NEVER PLACE YOUR HAND, OR ANY OTHER BODY PART NEAR THE BARREL CYLINDER GAP". The judge tossed the case.
I was gonna give you $hit for only testing the 454 C [especially in that P-C 460xvr hunter barrel] and then you whipped out the 460!… good for you! I own that exact gun, I reload for it as well… it never fails to gain everyone’s attention when fired at the range. Even outdoors and next to the big rifles !
When I was a lil tyke, my granddad took me to the range and let me shoot some of his revolvers, a 22 lr and a 38 special. I put my finger over the cylinder gap on the 22 and learned quickly why not to do that. Still have my finger, but that burned good.
the test is informative and impressive.there is a little trick you can pull with a revolver and have a gunsmith take up the gap between the forcing cone and crane and it will reduce this side blast to almost none. but it costs some cash
The good thing is that the rounds that do the most damage are also the ones that require two hand on the handle so no real risk of putting your fingers near the gap.
I guess I have to thank my dad, I have shot many revolvers, some identical to those your using and I have never got bit by the gases escaping around the cylinder. That was how my dad explained it to me when I was very young , “don’t let it bite you when you shoot it.” That along with an explanation as to why and how it would “bite” me. I stayed conscious of the blast coming from that cylinder every time and still do to this day. It was very interesting to see just how bad a person could be injured from that cylinder blast.
Hey great video. Most revolver shooters know that thigh gap can be potentially dangerous but this video should dissuade any non-believers. Thanks for the sharing, empirical data was good too...just had to watch it twice.
Great subject for a video. I can totally imagine someone unknowingly goofing around with a high caliber revolver and putting their hand around the cylinder to hip shoot or something like that. Yikes.
Fascinating and rather messy. Your guns are it tip top shape so the cylinder gap is minimal. Imagine the effects if using a sloppy old revolver from the days when cylinder gap was a matter of luck on which day the gun was assembled....
Three main factors affect damage... pressure of the gas, volume of the gas, and how big is the cylinder gap. You arranged them in order of cylinder pressure. Not complaining, I didn't expect you to measure cylinder gap on each gun with a feeler gauge. Great episode! I wonder if you could hold a Nagant M1895 with your fingers up front without danger?
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Dam no 10mm?
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Just put those Murray Cod back once you've taken the photo 😂
BFR still makes a 30 carbine
Paul Harrell did a similar test a couple years back. RIP Paul.
Paul will be missed, the man was, is and will be a legend in the firearm community. RIP Paul Harrell
i remember that video! i still love his vids on the 30-30.
What did he die of ? Congealed spite, or Impacted self-satisfaction ?.
@@uncletiggermclaren7592terrible bait
@@sonsofisstvan1675 The man was a contemptible ideologue who did a lot of harm spreading conspiracy theories .
Dr: "So how do you think you contracted Salmonella?"
BB:"I have no idea doc, I just spent 2 days cleaning pistols."
"Inhaling raw chicken vapor, Doc"
"Yeah, doc. chicken vapor... all the cool kids are doing it, it's called "Sniffing the cock"
😂
@oldhillbillybuckkowalski
Well doc, I HAVE been inhaling alot of raw chicken vapor lately...
"Raw chicken vapor?"
Yeah, all the cool kids are doing it. On the street it's called "smoking the cock"
I'm more impressed by your collection of revolvers. 👍
His collection of chicken legs 🍗
I wonder if there is anyway I could the beneficiary of those beautiful fetchin' irons, though not through Bananas demise...
He didn't test the most important one - a Nagant revolver. No cylinder gap means no danger from escaping gases. Also means you can use a suppressor on one. The trigger pull sucks though, since it moves the cylinder forward to close the gap after rotating it.
yeah, that's a fuckton of wheely gats
@@flaircraft Probably doesn’t have one or just forgot about it
"Chicken Mist" sounds like a failed store-brand soda flavor.
Or a band you hear at a college dive bar.
good idea for a video game fake brand tho
@@md_vandenberg Like 'Jesse Pinkman's' "Twought Hammer", lol.
Its dip for chicken biscuits lol
@@RedBerylFire I was kind of imagining a soda that tasted like that. Mmm sweet effervescent chicken crackers.
So I was used to shooting my semi-autos. Using a high support hand on the slide was normal. After a long time of not shooting my revolvers I decided to take them to the range. I didn't pay attention where my support hand was when I pulled the trigger on my .44 super redhawk. The pain was sooo fast and sharp! I refused to look at my hand for several seconds thinking I was going to be missing the last digit of my thumb. Thank God it was still there. The pain from the burn was terrible, but the relief of seeing I still had a complete thumb drowned it out. Please folks pay attention. Good day everyone!
I had a similar experience many years ago (without a revolver) when I was serving as a Marine stationed on Okinawa in 1970. It was at a company (Marine Headquarters company) beach picnic and the beer was flowing. We were quite well sloshed and someone came up with a game of chicken with firecrackers. They were just the small ones about a 1/4" in diameter by about 1 1/2" long. Two guys each held a firecracker in their hand and two other Marines lit the fuses and the first guy to throw it lost. I won our round as the other Marine threw his first and then I decided to throw mine, however, yeah it went off in my hand. The pain was instant and sharp and I grabbed a rag off of a table and held it on my hand. I figured that I lost a finger or two but after a bit, with no blood showing, I opened my hand. No broken skin but I had three sore fingers and a thumb for a week or so.
Good thing you weren't holding it with your eyelid...
Amateur.
Probably depends on the Gap and ur little banna
That's why I'm not a fan of riding the hand forward. It's taught now as a standard practice, but it's a not a good general habit, as you found out.
Former explosives guy here. For moving/cutting “squishy” things like dirt, wood, fingers, etc the combination of impulse intensity and duration is what moves the most material.
That s why some of the smaller cartridges had higher pressure but did less damage. The impulse duration is too short.
As an X frame 460 owner, can concur about keeping the fingies away from the blasties. By far my most violent pistol and probably most fun to shoot. Best hunting revolver ever.
First time I shot a 460, DOOM (2016) just came out. I was at my uncle's range and he just got it. I figured I'd shoot it one-handed because why not. Found out why not pretty easily when I almost smacked myself in the forehead with the damn barrel lol.
Whoever made that .327 made a surpurb revolver, the lack of burn and cuts means that gap is tighter than a nuns.... Grip on a ruler. 😅😅
I noticed years ago that my Ruger GP100 in .357 had less gap than my friends Taurus revolver.
The gap is all important not the pressure.
The .32 caliber family of revolver cartridges is the most versatile pistol platform
I wish there was rimless 327 made for an automatic. The grip would be weirdly long, but the capacity and "oomph" would be worth it.
@@TROOPERfarcry 30 Super Carry is really close.
My buddies were on a desert ride on our motorcycles, Ralph brought a 44 mag. Ralphs 44 mag was so out of time, guys standing off to the side behind the operator were pretty much all bleeding from out of time shaved copper. It also had an unsafe trigger. Every guy who shot it (experienced shooters btw) stepped back after the first shot and said, no thank you. Literally touching the trigger the 44 fired, to say a "Hair" trigger was an understatement. Yes I understand the keep your hands on the grips and not near the cylinder gap, flame cuts are real and people have lost digits putting fingers too far forward or burning a wrist to try to support big recoil, don't do it, keep body parts behind the trigger guard, and put a finger on the trigger only when on target and ready to shoot. These are what I consider unsafe firearms, not ones that throw flame from a cylinder gap, thats just how revolvers work. Good job on showing the dangers of hand placement, some people may not have known this
I suspect the cylinder gap is as big a factor as is the cartridge. A 20,000 psi round with 0.006” gap will likely do more damage than a 40,000 psi round with 0.002” cylinder gap.
I bet there is a bell curve sweet spot for gap to damage ratio. Less than X gap and you wont get damage because it seals decently, more than Y gap and you wont get damage because it vents decently. Somewhere between X and Y is your inside out nub.
@@jong2359 No doubt, but I would expect the gap would have to be huge (0.1”) or greater before the pressure drops fast enough to avoid damage to a finger.
I think it’s the opposite. The smaller the gap the higher the pressure, and velocity of the exiting gases. Though, like others have said, there’s probably a sweet spot.
@@ashe1.070 Yes, that is my point. A 20,000 psi round with a gap in the sweet spot will do more damage than a 40,000 psi round well outside its sweet spot. That is my looking only at cartridge pressure is meaningless without also looking at the cylinder gap.
took the words right outta my mouth
So, what I'm getting is, if you want to protect your fingers, always strap a chicken leg to your gun as a buffer. Solid advice, I'm off to buy a year's supply of legs.
Your comedic flair is under rated
This is your finger.
🙂👉
This is your finger on a revolver...
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Any questions?😂
There was once a revolve that was sealed. As I recall it was a Nagant. The brass case was as long as the cylinder. Bullet was seated below the case mouth. The chambers in the cylinder were flared at the mouth. The end of the barrel was tapered to match the flare.
As you operated the revolver the cylinder not only revolved but moved forward and backward. This forward movement pushed the flare in the cylinder against the taper on the barrel. This allowed the mouth of the case to extend into the barrel. This sealed the barrel. Giving higher velocities than others revolvers of the day.
Too bad they don't make any modern revolver like this.
I think you need to use bananas instead of chicken legs
If you are putting your banana anywhere near the gap of your revolver you're likely shooting it incorrectly.
Keep your banana separate from your revolver...😂
A missed opportunity.
Only if you wanted to see what a negligent discharge would do while appendix carrying.
It would for sure smell better than chicken legs...
So the 460 will basically blow your hand clean off.
Yeah don't shoot that from retention haha. Honorable mention to the 454 casul too. Great footage!
So why did I read that in Clint Eastwood’s/ Harry Callahan voice?😆😆😆
Good one... But I think Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry version was better... LOL!
Explain why you only load 1 cartridge in these hand cannons if letting someone unfamiliar with them fire it.
Recoil can be enough to have an unintended double tap happen, 2nd round could have an unintended de-doming.
Flame cutting of the frame's top strap is a real deal, so if it's enough to work its way through steel, our delicate fingies are no real challenge. 'MInd the gap' isn't just for train/subway platforms.
Are you old enough to remember the .357 Maximum? I always wanted to see it used in a lever action Winchester but the erosion from it's flame cutting put an end to the cartridge, altogether. In a rifle, it would have burned out the leade about like a .220 Swift.
I always loved that guy that had only shot semi autos get a warning on how to hold his 357 with him saying he knows everything. Followed by him having his hand in a pitcher of ice for a week
@@russbilzing5348you mean burned out the rifling?
@@russbilzing5348how’s the 350 legend revolver any much different from 357 max
That's the biggest weak point of the 329PD and other scandium frame revolvers. It needs a steel plate right above the cylinder gap otherwise the blast will cut right trough the soft frame. And it has to be replaced every 1,000 rounds or so.
That 45-70 made that chicken leg spin like a flyin' saucer. Also: Why is the Plantain Plinker always sitting on the crapper?
I think that is his grandpa. 😂😂😂 Maybe he has a dairy allergy?!?
Dropping another plantain into this world.
Thanks for taking one for the team. For science.
Pressure is a part, but the VOLUME of gases impacts finger damage far more.
Exactly, the energy out that gap is a result of P and V. I would not want anything to near some if those big bore low pressure rounds.
Id probably add that the width of the gap between the cylinder and the barrel can't be discounted.
When there is more cylinder gap, there is a higher volume of gas escaping.
So the variables of gap size, loaded pressure, rate of powder burn and perhaps bullet weight might all make small differences in outcome within any one of the particular calibers?
I just saw your comment. I just started watching the video.
These pistols, depending on make ,have different gaps . My Colt has much less then many others. This makes a big difference in damage.
Yes, but it doesn't change the moral of the story.
Maybe that is why he listed the gaps? Maybe you should watch the videos you comment on? As it is, you look like the kid who forgets to write his name on his paper.
There aren't too many RUclips approved videos that make me want to go take a shower, but this is one, for sure. Well done!
For different reasons.... 😂😂😂
Great Test! I bought a new AMT Automag III (Longslide) in 30 carbine around 30yrs ago and still own it. Easy Recoil Too!
I've got a BFR in 454 Casull and I already figured that putting any body part anywhere near that cylinder gap when firing would be an extremely bad idea.
But thanks for the footage confirming it.
The "Joe Rogan of Bullets", almost fell outta my chair! Hilarious!
Chicken-leg-shaped space invaders have made it to earth to destroy all life! But, thankfully, to make things fair, they have agreed to strap themselves against the cylinder gap of a revolver of your choice. Today we find out which revolver you should choose to save life as we know it.
"Covered in chicken mist". Now THAT phrase, I'm going to memorize, and use... somewhere... sometime...
Hand placement on semis and revolvers is critical for safety. It is one of the early lessons I teach new shooters. I might include your video. Good job.
I bet the local raccoons had a huge party the night you were on the range.
Feasting on human fingers, no less!...
Ospătîndu-se cu degete de om, nici mai mult nici mai puțin!...
A lot of people reference barrel cylinder gap, that's one thing I like about Dan Wesson revolvers. The way the barrel mounts you can adjust barrel gap. I keep mine set to .002. about minimum. To prevent buildup binding the cylinder.
If the end shake is kept tight and you don't have a bunch of dirty loads, the cylinder should keep turning.
I love your reactions in this video , finally brought back the “let’s turn it around” 🎉
I liked the ocean depth pressure reference.
I'd think the gun, and specifically its cylinder gap, would be a big factor too.
Either way, point well made. Keep body parts away!!
Thanks for posting. I've always practiced keeping fingers clear firing revolvers. Saw a man destroy two fingers, firing a poorly timed .357. Back in 1976, I was just a kid. Imprinted on my brain.
This test is awesome. Thanks for the time and patience and getting dirty. I saved it to my video favorites.
I love this channel. He is informative, insightful, and (best of all) goofily entertaining.
You’ve got a knack for making informative content that is still funny. And, you do it without making it impossible for me to let my 12 y/o son watch it. Thanks for your excellent work my friend!
A whole bunch of BB’s humor should be right up his alley. 😆
12yo son got a earful of illicit slang with this one.
There was a lot covered here I knew , some I've experienced but I had no idea the blowby of some cartridges can do that damage. I have a 22 revolver and have felt a sample of the blowby. My favorite rounds to shoot out of it are shorts. Thanks for sharing
Thanks, Banana, for an original and humorous experiment that shows potential injury to an extended finger from gasses released at the cylinder gap upon firing a revolver.
But one revolver not tested - a very expensive one - actually tries to reduce the hot gases streaming out at the cylinder gap. The trigger pull advances the cylinder to contact the forcing cone, making a metal-to-metal contact which attempts to seal off the gases released upon firing the cartridge. This is an ingenious but relatively expensive design, an attempt to make contact between the two parts become metal-to-metal AT FIRING, BUT NOT BEFORE, an ingenious but expensive attempt to seal off the gas release.
Like shooting a Roscoe, one minuet my wallet gets a hole, next minuet my hand becomes a beer cozy.
I was wearing wool gloves when I had my finger to close to the cylinder gap on a snub nosed 38 special. I was 12 and my first time shooting a revolver. My fingers were numb for 2-3 days. The fleece on the inside of the wool was burned and missing.
Damn, that last one really didn't leave much of that chicken leg behind.
Like AvE always says, "Never put your fingy where you wouldn't put your dingy"... and you'll save a lot of fingies that way.
Good video! I was going to bring up the difference in cylinder gaps, but I see many others already did, so I won't. I wasn't expecting the .460 to be worse than the .500!
Seriously, one of the most entertaining and interesting videos I've watched by GunTubers in a long time! Awesome video!
Dude, you are the wildest, craziest most unique and without doubt the best content creator on RUclips. Been a long time subscriber and enjoy your channel immensely. I really like that .460.
Now this is a fun test, thanks for the operating pressures banana man
This was information I absolutely needed. Thank you; this test has been decisive in meeting a high priority need.
There seriously needs to be a collab with Kentucky Ballistics..
Call it Kentucky's Banana..
Or even better a colab with Kentucky Tactical. 😮 Lol, just kidding, that would be cool though.
IT'S BANANERMELON TIME!!!
@@exothermal.sprocket just nanner melon time!
YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?!!
Dude! This is amazing! Great job!
Me owning a .460, knowing it may be the top dog... Laughing as it is top dog. My favorite revolver.
Thanks for the dinner ideas!!! Grilled chicken sounds great 👍
New, fun way to make "mechanically separated chicken".
I had a .357 Mag and a few boxes of blanks. I used paper to test what comes out of the barrel and out of the cylinder gap. You would not want any part of your body within a few inches of either part of the gun, even when using blanks.
vary nice collection of revolvers that musta been a blast making this video ! awesome video
Really great demo! Informative! Thank you!
I started shooting handguns when I joined the military, using the good old beretta M9/92FS. My first revolver was a Chiappa Rhino 60DS in .357 Mag. I told my coworker I was shooting with about the cylinder gag and how he would need to grip it differently. My first shoot with my Rhino I gripped it like any of my semi auto pistols, I only made that mistake once
I had a 4 inch S&W Mountain gun .44 mag, Loved it
Those are some nice wheel guns there.
Thanks for sharing,some people don’t understand this…
Nice, I don’t envy you for the cleanup.
Who said ballistics shouldn't have its own genre of comedy?
The fire ball thrown by the 460 or a snub nose 454 is no joke. Especially at night. They send an enormous ring of fire a good 5-6 feet down range.
Jerry miculek did this with hot dogs, blew them apart.
Great video dude! Really enjoyed this one.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. A really good one. That said, there is a lot of pressure loss from that cylinder gap. I wonder how that impacts the final projectile velocity? I would also guess that some revolvers are better than others. I wonder how this all compares between brands, revolvers, autos and rifles?
Very very beautiful collection .
One of these days i want the 460 S&W . Simply love its top end power as well as accepting a few other lower powered alternatives .
Apart from being so damn funny this is a great lesson for all revolver shooters, especially for first time owners. Great job.
Thank you, finally somebody does a test with actual meat. Not vienna sausage.
You just confirmed what I have known for over 40 years. I was a bit shocked at the results of the last 3 rounds though. Spraying the Stainless Steel revolvers with some brake cleaner should help speed up the process of cleaning the chicken grease off of them. I have never tired it on blued steel.
MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼…………………………………………………………….8” barrel Dan Wesson 44 magnum, first time I took it out to shoot it I learned a hard lesson. I was shooting it two handed at first, then as confidence rose, one handed like Dirty Harry. Then I decided to go for “ accuracy “ and put the barrel on my left forearm ( summer time so sleeveless T-shirt weather) and I pulled the trigger. After a crap ton of four letter words, burnt hair, and burnt flesh, I learned the hard way about barrel/cylinder gap! That was 40+ years ago and I’ve never made that mistake again and no, I don’t drop the revolver. I did put it back on the gun rug real quick, I still have that gun too.
I had a teacher in elementary school who was missing part of his index finger from when he was a cop in the 70s and 80s. He was in a struggle with some kid who had been breaking into houses. Guess the kid had a revolver and in the struggle he tried to grab the gun and the kid fired and because he had hild of the cylinder it took part of his finger.
He passed away but i will always remember the stories he probably shouldnt have been telling children lol
I always watch new shooters that I bring to the range with finger placement. Midway USA is my favorite online store.
First time I took my 460 S&W to the range, I didnt even think about it, rested the barrel on a sand bag close to the cylinder, took a shot got sand blasted in the face and destroyed the sand bag...the side gas is insane!
I built a 36 Navy and 44 Army black powder handguns at 13-14 yo. I put my left hand around the cylinder holding it and fired. I hand black dots embedded deep in the web of my hand for months.
I LOVE 460 S&W mag, I got my first in 2009 and have several now. Absolutely didn't expect that level of total carnage though!
That's going to be some nasty stuff to clean up :O
A few years ago, some genius with a 460 managed to get his pinky finger over the cylinder gap. When he fired the gun, it severed his little finger. He tried to sue S&W saying that there was no warning in instruction manual. The lawyer for S&W showed the Judge in the manual where is said in great big red letters, with illustrations "NEVER PLACE YOUR HAND, OR ANY OTHER BODY PART NEAR THE BARREL CYLINDER GAP". The judge tossed the case.
You need to do WAY more revolver episodes!!
I didnt see a Nagant! Which is one of the only revolvers that can be functionally suppressed from the factory.
I was gonna give you $hit for only testing the 454 C [especially in that P-C 460xvr hunter barrel] and then you whipped out the 460!… good for you! I own that exact gun, I reload for it as well… it never fails to gain everyone’s attention when fired at the range. Even outdoors and next to the big rifles !
Great video. Fascinating study that I haven't seen elsewhere. Looks like the volume of gas (.45-70) is pretty influential pressure-for-pressure. Cool.
Paul Harrell did a piece on this.
When I was a lil tyke, my granddad took me to the range and let me shoot some of his revolvers, a 22 lr and a 38 special. I put my finger over the cylinder gap on the 22 and learned quickly why not to do that. Still have my finger, but that burned good.
Imagine going to a range and the goober on the bench next to you is taping raw chicken to his very nice, well kept collection of revolvers...
the test is informative and impressive.there is a little trick you can pull with a revolver and have a gunsmith take up the gap between the forcing cone and crane and it will reduce this side blast to almost none. but it costs some cash
I'm pretty sure I saw Salmonella Mist open for KISS back in 1967 🤔
Wasn't that before Officer Greg became their front man? lol
The good thing is that the rounds that do the most damage are also the ones that require two hand on the handle so no real risk of putting your fingers near the gap.
I guess I have to thank my dad, I have shot many revolvers, some identical to those your using and I have never got bit by the gases escaping around the cylinder. That was how my dad explained it to me when I was very young , “don’t let it bite you when you shoot it.” That along with an explanation as to why and how it would “bite” me. I stayed conscious of the blast coming from that cylinder every time and still do to this day. It was very interesting to see just how bad a person could be injured from that cylinder blast.
This is a great video. I like the premise behind it. Thanks Brother!
New sub and just got my Screamin Yeller nana Merch Shirt in the mail. Outstanding.
This is so serious it should be the fifth rule of gun safety.
Very entertaining!!! Thanks
Hey great video. Most revolver shooters know that thigh gap can be potentially dangerous but this video should dissuade any non-believers. Thanks for the sharing, empirical data was good too...just had to watch it twice.
Great subject for a video. I can totally imagine someone unknowingly goofing around with a high caliber revolver and putting their hand around the cylinder to hip shoot or something like that. Yikes.
08:40 that chicken took off right at the cam. Wonderful flight!
There is an old Mythbusters on the 500 with chicken legs. Belated thanks for the lever action comparison.
Great video, as always! Think it's a combo of pressure and barrel length?
Cylinder gap varies with each revolver and can vary quite a bit.
Fascinating and rather messy. Your guns are it tip top shape so the cylinder gap is minimal. Imagine the effects if using a sloppy old revolver from the days when cylinder gap was a matter of luck on which day the gun was assembled....
Those days are still here. I won't mention the manufacturer, but I have two revolvers with gaps greater than .010 from the factory. Colt clones.
Or the black powder days, when you needed a gap to avoid the cylinder getting jammed with fouling.
@@linguisticmanHeritage im guessing? Maybe a chiappa?
@@juntsmokaBoth Ubertis. In .45 Colt.
Three main factors affect damage... pressure of the gas, volume of the gas, and how big is the cylinder gap. You arranged them in order of cylinder pressure. Not complaining, I didn't expect you to measure cylinder gap on each gun with a feeler gauge. Great episode! I wonder if you could hold a Nagant M1895 with your fingers up front without danger?
I'm imagining the weirdest dishwasher load right now.