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I'm sure others have already said so in the comments, but at the very end of the movie, 48:57, Tom Hanks, playing Jim Lovell, is shaking hands with the real Jim Lovell, retired by then of course.
Jim is still with us, he's currently 95 years old.
Unfortunately, Marilyn Lovell died last August 27, 2023. Don't know the cause of death. She was 93. Btw, she did get her wedding ring back.
Also Frank Borman died last November 7,2023. He was the commander of the Apollo 8 flight to orbit the moon Christmas Eve 1968 with Jim Lovell.Tragecally Bill Anders was recently killed in a plane crash at age 90. He was the third member of Apollo 8. I will never forget them taking turns reading from the book of Genesis on live television Christmas Eve.,1968.
Apollo 13 was a very tense moment for days with me. It was intense for millions of people around the world. Thank God they made it back. Jim Lovell is the oldest living astronaut at 95.
@@GGE47 Ken Mattingly died 31th October 2023 😔
I didn't know that Marylin passed out too 😔
There's recordings of the actual Apollo 13 crew during this crisis. They were cool as cucumbers throughout the whole ordeal. You don't get to be an astronaut unless you're a Chad.
Listening the recordings from the LEM during the lunar landing in the Apollo 11 mission, you would never guess from the tone of voice that they were in imminent danger of running out of fuel and crashing as they desperately searched for a place to land because the designated landing site was unusable due to it being covered with boulders.
Second City Television (SCTV) did a hilarious skit where budget cuts forced NASA and the National Endowment for the Arts to pool their resources, and they put on a performance of the play "Murder in the Cathedral" performed by astronauts wearing monks robes over their spacesuits and helmets and reciting the dramatic dialogue it the emotionless monotone that astronauts are known for.
The Apollo astronauts were drawn almost exclusively from military test pilots. Only Buzz Aldrin had never flown as a test pilot (though he was an experienced combat pilot, with 66 missions and 2 confirmed air-to-air kills during the Korean War), but that condition was waived for him since he had a doctorate from MIT, with a thesis titled "Line-of-sight guidance techniques for manned orbital rendezvous", which was felt more than made up it.
There actually is a minor blow up but nothing as dramatic as in the film.
Umm you forgot brilliant with stellar character
BTW, there's a hilarious NASA recording of astronauts literally on the moon complaining about farting from drinking too much citrus.
The LEM (lunar excursion module) that the three astronauts used as a lifeboat produced about 1710 watts of power. So when one of the engineers said they had about enough to power a coffeemaker it was not hugely off. To put it in perspective,
Average Appliance Estimated Wattage
Coffee Maker 600-1200
Microwave 1000-2000
Toaster 800-1500
Hair Dryer 1000-1875
Vacuum Cleaner 300-1500
That's crazy, thanks so much for breaking this down!
@@nickreacts6394 one of the charms of this movie is that the power problem that drives much of the plot isn't some far-out scientific idea that might be hard for a general audience to grasp, but the most basic kind of electrical problem, familiar to anyone who has ever tripped a circuit breaker or had to deal with a failing battery. It really was just that simple.
I love Ron Howard movies. He always finds a role for his brother (the balding round faced guy with glasses) to play in his movies. And the old lady at the house is his mother. Great movie and I enjoyed watching it again with you two.
The communication delay was because of the shallow entry they briefly mentioned. In real life they communicated with Houston way before the chutes opened . I have had the privilege of meeting both Lovell and Haise a few times and are both class acts.
Much of the dialogue was taken word for word from the recordings of the capsule communications. You can actually listen to the original recordings on youtube. In reality after the explosion, it takes them about 40 minutes before they decide to shut down the command module. But just listening to their voices you would think it was totally routine.
Computers were definitely big in the old days and building one that can be used in a rocket was hard. There's a great two hour video about the Saturn V Rocket that was used in Apollo program. You can find the correct video in RUclips with title "I Asked An Actual Apollo Engineer to Explain the Saturn 5 Rocket (Long Cut) - Smarter Every Day 2".
If you're interested in the computer only, a good video is called "The ACTUAL Computer from the Saturn V Rocket - ft. SmarterEveryDay".
There was a scene in Armageddon where Bruce Willis & Liv Tyler were talking on the launchpad of Apollo 1. They showed the plaque. I believe it said "God Sped to the Crew of Apollo 1." Also noted in the "door" conversation btwn Tom Hanks character & the son. Gus Grissom was one of the original 7 American Mercury Astronauts & was killed on Apollo 1. Strongly suggest the 2 of you react to the movie "The Right Stuff."
Something tells me you would like the original '12 Angry Men' and 'Stalag 17'. They're b/w movies, but they're so good! For good color ones, try 'Escape Plan', and 'The Great Escape'. And finally, for a couple secret Disney movies, 'Song of the South' and 'The Great Mouse Detective'. I think you'd love all of them and I recommend them for you to watch on or off the channel.
Don’t be ashamed….I knew nothing about this mission before I saw it at the cinema. I was an emotional WRECK!
49:06, well we are going back! The Artemis II mission will be flying to moon in late 2025
Your comment of Swigert not being "qualified" is an error based on the way the movie portrayed him which was inaccurate, Jack Swigert was exceptionally qualified even for an astronaut, he literally wrote parts of the book on flying the command module.
On the day that the Apollo mission returned to Earth my town closed down schools and businesses and everyone was home watching this (or at church) praying for their safety.
1970 was a very different time
The schools in my town closed for the day, too. I remember this day vividly.
Very different -- for most of 1970 I didn't exist.
I think the world would be just as transfixed if something like this happened today. Even something as trivial as the disappearance of the Titan submersible grabbed an awful lot of attention.
@@ariochivYeah, we’re going back to the moon in the next 10 or so years. I can almost guarantee the world will once again be transfixed.
@@ariochivThat was so tragic, I felt so bad for those people.
I noticed you kept saying "how did they not think of that ?"
The answer is quite simple : To go to the Moon, they used the Apollo Command and Service Module (CSM) but to land on the Moon, the astronauts would use the Lunar Excursion Module (LEM). Due to technical issues on Appollo 13, the CSM wasn't operationnal so they had to go to the LEM. But the LEM was designed to land on the moon, not to travel in space. Also the LEM was designed for 2 poeple, (the third astronaut would stay in the CSM waiting for the other 2 to come back). But because the CSM was smashed, they had to go to the LEM all 3. That's why they had oxygene issues.
And perhaps more importantly, they were made by different companies, with no standardization for space travel.
Well you got it a bit mixed up here. That is why they had the CO2 issues not the oxygen issues. The oxygen issues were due to the fact that they lost all of the contents of both O2 bottles.
the same question arose when people brought up the lighting of the LEM engine for course correction... many were like "I mean, it's a rocket! It'll thrust!".
yeah, no, it will not "just" thrust solely because of the fact that it's a rocket... if it was designed to operate under _some_ gravity, like that of the moon, it may have it's systems rigged to work with pressure... you know, as you would have under gravity?
if you don't have gravity in wide open space, you have no pressure on the pipes, the fuel doesn't run, you have no ignition, and the rocket doesn't fire!
@@bcn1gh7h4wk Well descending to the moon or orbiting the moon isn't really going to have any difference to a rocket engine, you will be in freefall either way until you actually touch something (the ground in this case) really a decent path to the moon is just an orbit that happens to intersect the ground. Pressure on the pipes from an outside source for a rocket would only happen if you are changing velocity from hitting atmosphere, already thrusting or having the ground stop you from continuing your orbit of the large bodies centre of gravity.
Since the decent engine of the lunar lander was designed to change the lander orbit from circular to one intersecting the ground and then perform a powered landing it absolutely would have to work in freefall which is why pressure was provided by compressed helium.
@@bcn1gh7h4wk You don't know what you're talking about. there's a vacuum on the moon, like the same vacuum in space. It's a hypergolic engine; gas pick up at the inlet is only a problem for a second, and then it's under gravity. That's how the engineers "rig" it.
11:54, Many Apollo astronaut marriages didn’t survive the program. Jim and his wife Marilyn went the distance. She passed way in August 2023 after over 70 years of marriage.
But she did get her wedding ring from the motel shower!
Many probably failed because it was very stressful for their wives and families. Other probably failed because astronauts were looked at like Rock Stars. I'm sure there were a lot of women throwing themselves at the astronauts making it hard to stay faithful.
@@laudanum669 Check out the movie The Right Stuff. There are several scenes that show this rockstar side to being an astronaut
@@laudanum669 The DVD version of Apollo 13 includes a commentary track featuring the real Jim and Marilyn Lovell, and from how they talk it's clear just how strong their marriage still was decades after the incident. They truly did love each other.
@@laudanum669Yeah no, it's a common fact that the majority of the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo astronauts were blatantly cheating on their wives, which is why most of said wives left them. And they'd been doing it from the start; most of them were originally Air Force pilots, and would see their wives for maybe two weeks in a year, so they just... did whatever, and that was normal for them. Like, at the press conference where the Mercury Seven were introduced to the world, at one point a reporter asked how their wives felt about them risking their lives like that... and the response was six men staring in confused shock, as they'd never considered that their wives might have feelings.
The exception, John Glenn, was the only one of the seven from the Navy, and also one of the few to not get divorced; he actually had to sit the other six down for a talk about how they're all famous American heroes, so the other should stop having public sex with every woman that looks at them. He didn't tell them to stop cheating on their wives, just to at least pretend to be hiding it. The other six never forgave him for this, and forced Glenn out of NASA after his one Mercury flight.
48:57 - that man dressed as the senior navel officer, who is supposed to be congratulating Tom Hanks, is the real Jim Lovell.
The costume department offered to make him an Admiral's uniform, but he said no thanks. "I retired a Captain, and a Captain I'll be".
Naval. Unless he was handing out free oranges. 😋
@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t really have to respect that. Jim Lovell has gotta be in my list of top 3 favorite astronauts.
His wife Marylin also had a Cameo appearance.
@@curtismartin2866 hehehe
This is very real except for the astronauts freaking out and arguing, that was artistic license to add drama; you don't get to be picked to do this job unless you can be completely cool under pressure.
Marilyn Lovell is played by Kathleen Quinlan, she received an Academy Award nomination for this part.
Some excellent movies about the space race are: The Right Stuff (1983), October Sky (1999), Hidden Figures (2016).
When Armstrong landed on the Moon in 1969 my then boyfriend and I went over to my parent's house and watched it on the tv. Then we went outside and looked up at the moon and commented, "Wow, someone is up there walking around right now ... amazing."
It's still an intense movie, even when the outcome is known.
And don't forget the wonderful mini-series about the Apollo Program, "From the Earth to the Moon." Highly recommend it!
Yeah, I know. Listening to the audio tapes from when the explosion happened? It is like "oh, this happened" "this isn't right", "Houston, now what?". It's like nothing even happened.
Thank you for clarifying about the true event! And I love hearing about your experience during the moon landing, as someone who has only seen clips/ movie scenes about the event, it's awesome to hear a first hand account!
So I adore weird nasa history. Here’s a fun Apollo 13 fact: in 1969 (year of apollo 11) a problem in the LM (lander) guidance system was identified. One of the LM engineers corrected the problem from her hospital bed when she was in labor. That corrected system is what saved the Apollo 13 crew. And the woman gave birth to a baby boy… Jack Black. Yes, that jack black.
i had to look that up just to see. thats pretty wild. lol
Are you saying she corrected it *for* the Apollo 11 mission or after it was identified during that mission. Because Apollo was in July and Jack Black was born August 28 in California.
This is such a cool fun fact wow!
No shot! I don't think I knew the Black Jack part.
@@Ernwaldosome one who dont belives every bs people say and takes the time to just google for 1min. You are a hero.
It probably took longer than normal because, if you recall, they were coming in shallow, so they spent more time coming down as they were covering more distance.
Yep, the key line is when the one chap says "flight, they're still shallowing up there, do you want to tell them?" It's almost completely brushed over, but it explains the extended blackout. I'm fairly sure in the real events, the people at mission control would have known that so would have expected the longer blackout, even if the public did not know.
The actual reason it took so long for the astronauts to communicate was that they were worried about the amount of power they had available. They didn't want to risk using up the battery and not having power to deploy the parachutes, so they waited to talk to Houston until they were sure they were going to land safely. Despite doing everything right up to that point, they neglected to warn Houston that they were going to do that.
@@paulcooper3611 Cool Thanx!
@@paulcooper3611 I could see doing that.
Can they help us? No. So why waste power talking to them until we are absolutely sure we have enough power for things that CAN help us, like parachutes. Parachutes would be very helpful.
This is like when my boss calls and I'm busy, lol. I'll talk to him later.
@paulcooper3611 Do you have a source for that information? I believe it, I'd just like to be able to point to an authoritative source.
I was nine years old when this actually happened, and I remember it very well. The final part where they take closer to 5 minutes before there is any communication is exactly as I remember it. I remember even at the time I was confused as to why it took so long, because I also remember that the picture of the spacecraft coming down with chutes open showed up on the TV almost simultaneously with the radio communication (just as they show in the movie). Even then I understood to some degree that the reason for the blackout was related to the intense heat generated at the heat shield during reentry. (Now I know that as a result of the heat a plasma forms around the spacecraft which the radio waves can't penetrate.) But if the chutes were deployed into that kind of high temperature environment they'd burn up. The craft has to slow down to well below that speed before the chutes can be deployed. It wasn't until maybe a year or so ago that I read where someone explained that they waited until the chutes deployed in case the power was needed for that. This explanation makes perfect sense to me and I'm pretty sure it's right. But I still prefer my previous best explanation: It was a giant practical joke played by the astronauts on the entire world!
Everything in this movie was real except for the astronauts arguing. That was added for drama. A lot of the other lines were word for word what was actually said.
I'll be honest, I never bought into that they never argued like it was the movie. I mean, I don't think it was like in the movie, but to think these 3 human beings stuck in an impossible scary situation, they Didn't let their emotions get the best of them....not once🤨not believable, in my opinion. What I believe happened is they cover it up as they should. They don't want neither of these 3 guys looking bad.😮
Real events, but everything was dramatised quite heavily. Understandable, because if they showed it how it *really* was, it would make for a really boring movie!
I don't know about the other characters, but I know they did Swigert really dirty in the movie. He was actually the most familiar with all the safety measures in Apollo 13 (because he actively DEVELOPED those measures!), and the other two sure were glad that he was on board.
@@Danisachan His character was bent a little for the sake of drama. Actually I think they did an outstanding job with Swigert. He is not presented as an incompetent but as the "outsider" in the group. When he messes up the training, a technician says that even Mattingly did the same error before. And later in the movie he is the only that figures that the trajectory is off. More importantly, his redemption arc was very satisfying: he gains the respect of the others, and in a movie that presents pretty static characters, he is actually the only that grows and improves in the course of the narration. Not realistic, but not disrespectful. We must keep in mind that is not a documentary.
I talked to Fred Haise once as a kid. He said their depiction of him getting sick was really overexaggerated, and they never would've stripped off their bio monitors. He had a kidney infection, so it just hurt.
The Apollo 1 fire that killed all 3 astronauts happened while the rocket was sitting on the launchpad…a spark occurred inside and they were operating with a pure 100% oxygen atmosphere….the fire spread throughout the cabin very quickly and bc of the design of the hatch they couldn’t just open it quickly to get out….it took a few minutes to open. It was redesigned after that and they made everything more fire resistant inside as well….all the materials inside made fire resistant I mean. Also, right after they did their tv broadcast (that the networks dumped) Mission Control told them they had some “routine house cleaning” for them to do…one of those was to “stir the oxygen tanks” …when he hit the switch to do that that is when everything went to shit…some kind of electrical short that caused the explosion. Y’all were talking when Mission Control told them to do that so you missed that part. And about the CO2 scrubbers and only having enough oxygen for 2 people…they are in the lunar module and it was meant to go down to the moon with 2 astronauts in it while the other astronaut stays in orbit in the other craft. And it really did take them longer than 3 minutes to go through the comm blackout on re-entry bc their re-entry angle was still a little bit shallow so it took a little longer to go through the blackout.
A complete irony about Apollo 1 is the door in a previous mission had blew too early. They fixed it for Apollo 1. If they hadn't the door would have blown and the astronauts would have gotten out or at least had a chance.
@@andromeda331 are you referring to that Mercury capsule hatch blowing? Another irony is that was Gus Grissom who was piloting that Mercury mission when the hatch blew after it landed in the ocean and it filled with water and sank to the bottom of the ocean…he got out of course….the irony is…Gus was one of the 3 astronauts killed in the Apollo 1 fire. There was nothing wrong with the hatch blowing on the Mercury capsule….that’s what it was designed to do….it’s just that it blew prematurely before the recovery helicopter had gotten hooked up to it….some say that Gus panicked and blew the hatch himself to get out of the capsule…after the water started pouring in it got too heavy for the helicopter to pick it up…
@@jamesmoore4003 Yes. I didn't know that Gus was one piloting it.
The reason the for malfunctioning was a misplaced fitting that happened 2 years before the module was launched.
Also, it wasn't the amount of time it took to open the door, it was the fact that it opened inward. Once the fire started, the pressure went way up, and there was no way they could physically pull on the door hard enough to open it. After that, they redesigned the hatch to open outward.
Ya know you’ve got a great movie when people who know the outcome still find this movie exciting.
Every time!😂
I don't know if Armstrong and Aldrin actually sat with Jim's mother during the media frenzy, but it wouldn't have been that big a deal, because the astronauts all knew each other. They worked together and many were neighbors because there was a subdivision in Houston built specifically for the astronauts and their families. That's why in the moon landing scene, Jim laughs at the idea of Neil Armstrong's name going down in history, because to him he was just Neil from work!
Neil Armstrong and Michael Collins have died but Buzz Aldrin is alive and kicking, literally. I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed alive another 50 years. He actually punched a guy who said the moon landing was fake.
They actually did. The movie itself is based on the book “Lost Moon” written by Jim Lovell himself. And in a paperback version there’s a picture of not only Armstrong and Aldrin with Lovell’s mom, but also one of the Apollo 12 astronauts as well.
The actress who played Jim Lovell's mom in the rest home, was actually Ron Howard's mom. And the actor who played the priest sitting with the Lovell family at the end was Ron Howard's dad.
and Ron Howard's little brother,Clint was one of the specialists in Mission Control
Ron Howard makes sure his family gets paid. Good on him.
@@technofilejr3401 of course it helps that his family are really good at what they do.
The senator complaining to Jim about his state paying for moon missions that are already obsolete is Roger Corman, who gave tons of famous directors their first shot at directing (from Francis Ford Coppola to Martin Scorsese). He also produced the first movie Ron Howard directed, GRAND THEFT AUTO.
Ron Howard actually made his mom audition because he didn't want to seem biased. While his mom did a good job, Ron was like, "I don't know, Mom. You still look a little too young." His mom then took her dentures out and said, "How about this?" Ron laughed and said, "Okay Mom you got the job."
As far as accuracy goes: I don't know about the other characters, but I know they did Swigert really dirty in this adaptation. He was actually the most familiar with all the safety measures in Apollo 13 (because he actively DEVELOPED those measures!), and the other two sure were glad that he was on board at this time in history.
It always seems with this movie that the stuff they changed for dramatic effect turns out to be less interesting and dramatic than the actual events. Not to knock the film, overall, I think it's great, which makes the one or two clunky things about it really stand out.
Facts. I mentioned it in my post as well. They really did Jack dirty in this one.
Yeah, I was going to mention this as well -- Swigert was a smart and capable astronaut, and not the slightly out-of-his-depth flyboy they portray here.
If you would like to learn more about the 1960's Space Program there are some other great shows to watch.
The Right Stuff (1983 - Covers early space program from first Supersonic flights to first orbital flights.)
From the Earth to the Moon (TV Mini Series 1998 - similar in tone to Apollo 13, Each episode on different subtopics about the Apollo mission)
Hidden Figures (2016 - Covers the black female calculators who played a significant role in the space program.)
There's also a nice documentary, In the Shadow of the Moon (2007), and then the same team made a mini-series for the technological side of the flights, Moon Machines (2008) - it covers the Saturn V rocket, the Lunar and the Command Modules, the spacesuits, the flight computer and the LRV rover, "the first car on the Moon".
The Dish (2000 aussie comedy drama) is a great one to add to the list, about the radio telescope in Australia used to relay communications with the Apollo 11 crew and how they nearly didn't get the video footage from the landing.
This movie also has a very nice audio commentary with Jim and Marion Lovell. I'm not really sure where to find it other than the DVD, but if you can find it, I recommend listening to it.
@@BadlyHonedBytes love that one!
"First Man" (2018) about the Apollo11 Mission is pretty good too.
It's crazy to think what they accomplished during the Apollo missions with literal building sized computers that could only do a tiny fraction of what your cell phone is capable of.
A detail many younger people do not understand is that the engineers at NASA are doing many of their calculations using slide rules.
I think the comparison of Apollo computers were the computation level of pocket calculators.
@@pavanbiliyar But programmable calculators, which is an important difference. 2 K of working memory (RAM), 15 bit registers, and 32 K of stored program (ROM). Two million clock ticks per second. It was an elegant design in a lot of respects. All made of a single kind of logic gate (NOR, four NOR gates to a chip). To prevent arithmetic overflow and underflow on multiplication and division, numbers were represented as greater than zero and less than one. One of the programming leads, Margaret Hamilton, mathematically proved that the computer could never be put in a state that it couldn't recover from (unless physically damaged). We tend to laugh at those paltry specifications, but of course all that industrial development led to what we have now, and the 1960s are still within living memory for millions. Some young genius has actually found and restored surviving examples of the AGC hardware to the point where they can be fed live data that simulates the data the computers would receive during the missions, so the old computers "think" they're actually doing entire Apollo missions as they did 50 years ago. It's all on RUclips and incredibly fascinating.
@@TedLittle-yp7ujSadly, most younger people probably don’t know what a slide rule even is.
this is a lie. The supercomputers used rooms of computers like at NORAD and they had enough to process satellite information, work through scenarios. Your phone cant do what those trillion dollar IBM computers could do back then. You think Fort Meade has cell phones processing all cell calls scanning for key words? get over yourself
Yes, they did indeed broadcast all of this. We watched the re-entry broadcasts all day in school (I was in elementary school) and our teachers discussed all the events with us so that we understood. I remember knowing that they might glance off the Earth's atmosphere and go back out into space and never get back. When they landed in the ocean, you could hear the entire school cheering.
Apollo 13 had a longer ionization blackout because they did a PC+2 burn that sped their free return trajectory to the Earth. Because they got back to Earth at a higher speed they had to reenter at a shallower angle so they could slow down sufficiently while still in the higher atmosphere to avoid overheating and overstressing the Command Module with too much velocity in the thicker atmosphere. At the wrong entry angle you could skip out of the atmosphere or crash into the ground at hypersonic speeds assuming you did not burn up first, so they need a pretty accurate entry angle that is dependent on velocity to get it just right. The Guidance Office and Flight Controller would certainly have known they would have an extended blackout however it was still 33 seconds longer than predicted. Also remember the power was low so to give the parachute warmers and pyrotechnics the best chance they turned off the radios once in blackout and did not turn them on again until after the mains deployed making them more like 2 minutes overdue to check in via radio, so it is accurate that they saw the chutes opening on TV at nearly the same instant Lovell checked in via radio.
That wasn't the only factor. It's suspected that the cooling system of the LM caused a very tiny propulsion, not enough for the crew to recognize, but enough to very gradually push the craft off course over a matter of days. During a normal mission, that cooling system isn't powered on for very long, and for most of that time the LM is separated from the CSM, generally sitting on the Moon (where the tiny vent would not even disturb the lunar regolith, let alone move the spacecraft). So there wasn't really an opportunity to notice the effect before.
@@MarsJenkar Its not hard to picture that at all. In the movie they show the crew being told they can no longer expel urine bags overboard. Cooling systems would sublimate water to reject heat, even atmosphere in the capsules would leak and be replenished by stored gasses, and cryogenic tanks have to vent off due to vapor pressure as their contents heat and boil off. In a normally functioning spacecraft the guidance computer and inertial navigation systems would detect and correct orientation, speed, and trajectory with thrusters but with all their guidance turned off they were truly adrift and at the whims of every vented gas from the spacecraft. Even a few meters per second of Dv can have huge impacts early in a flight path.
@@larrybremer4930 The major thing about the cooling system was that it was almost _constantly_ on, which meant that the effect of the tiny vent added up over time. This manifested as a very gradual shallowing that wasn't noticed at first, until the difference became too big to ignore.
Even after the corrective burn, the tiny vent continued to gradually push the craft back off course. In the actual mission, it resulted in the astronauts doing a later burn using the LM's maneuvering jets, something which wasn't depicted in the film.
Watch The Right Stuff. Another great true story about American space and the men that forged ahead as pioneers in the early days.
Also starting Ed Harris--as John Glenn.
It's important to remember that 1000's of people worked for years preparing for each of these missions, and astronauts trained for years for a single opportunity to fly in space. Canceling a mission wasn't just a disappointment. It was missing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
13:21 Gene Kranz’s wife sewed a vest for him for each mission. Some were more stylish than others. The Apollo 13 vest was quite nice, as we see.
It occurs to me that the Mission Control building in Houston Texas probably had powerful state of the art air conditioning (just to keep the computers cold) and so you might well want to wear a vest inside that room to stay warm.
“Steely eyed missile man” was the ultimate complement that could be given to a civilian working behind the scenes at NASA.
There weren't many who got that moniker in real life. Werner von Braun. Chris Kraft, the first NASA flight director. Gene Kranz. John Aaron, who got the moniker in saving Apollo 12 from an abort during launch, and solidified it by coming up with the power-up plan for the CSM on 13. Those are all the ones I know about. I dunno if the engineer who came up with the CO2 rig got that moniker in real life, but I wouldn't be against him having it, as he saved the astronauts' lives.
"The terror of floating in space" Watch Gravity 😊
"This movie should have been called "Angular Momentum" -- Neil Degrasse Tyson, tweeting from the theater while watching Gravity.
Nick, you asked about the cause of the Apollo 1 fire that killed all three astronauts. The ignition source of the fire was determined to be electrical, and the fire spread rapidly due to combustible nylon material and the high-pressure pure oxygen cabin atmosphere. Rescue was prevented by the plug door hatch, which could not be opened against the internal pressure of the cabin. Because the rocket was unfueled, the test had not been considered hazardous, and emergency preparedness for it was poor.
The inner hatch cover used a plug door design, sealed by higher pressure inside the cabin than outside. The normal pressure level used for launch (2 psi above ambient) created sufficient force to prevent removing the cover until the excess pressure was vented. Emergency procedure called for Grissom to open the cabin vent valve first, but Grissom was prevented from doing this because the valve was located behind the wall of flames. Also, while the system could easily vent the normal pressure, its flow capacity was utterly incapable of handling the rapid increase to 29 psi caused by the heat of the fire. In other words, it couldn't vent the excess pressure fast enough. So, the astronauts weren't able to get the door open, and died of a heart attack caused by carbon monoxide inhalation. (The burns happened post-mortem.)
A lot of things were changed after the fire. The cabin atmosphere at launch was reduced to 60% oxygen/40% nitrogen at sea level pressure (14.7 psi), which would be vented down to 5 psi after launch. Nylon used in the Block I suits was replaced in the Block II suits with Beta cloth, a _non-flammable,_ highly melt-resistant fabric woven from fiberglass and coated with Teflon. The door was completely redesigned to open outwards, with a cartridge of pressurized nitrogen to power the release system in an emergency, instead of explosive bolts. Flammable materials in the cabin were replaced with self-extinguishing versions. Plumbing and wiring were covered with protective insulation. Aluminum tubing was replaced with stainless steel tubing that used brazed joints when possible.
Thank you for this!
28:00, Fun fact by being on the Apollo 8 mission, Jim Lovell and his teammates were the first people to orbit the moon. He and his teammates also became the first human beings to see the Earth rise above the moon. So even without actually landing on the moon Lovell already secured his place in history.
That is why Fred Haise and Jack Swigert were so honored to fly with him.
I'm so glad you got to this so quickly, and I'm really glad you enjoyed it❤❤ At the very end, when they are on the aircraft carrier, Tom Hanks shakes hands with the older Captain. That is the real Jim Lovell! This movie is also based off the book Jim Lovell wrote called "Lost Moon" 🚀🚀
Actually, there were two more changes from the actual events. First of all, it wasn't a "team" that came up with the solution for the air filters. It was one engineer who figured it out on his way to work. Also, it wasn't just Ken in the simulator; they had several teams working out the restart procedure.
They had figured that out for a previous Apollo flight.
I remember this event even though I was just 9 years old. The whole country was glued to the tv-and Walter Cronkite of CBS, was like the nations dad, keeping us up to date on the continuing events. As young as I was, I understood the gravity of the whole situation as just a year before, we landed on the moon for the first time.
For an added perspective, look up the BBC coverage of Apollo 13's reentry & splashdown. You can see the commentators silently and anxiously waiting for the blackout to end, with science correspondent James Burke literally crossing his fingers. And their happiness when the capsule safely splashes down is wonderful.
I was 10 and remember watching all of the Apollo 13 news updates. I don’t recall if it was shown in the classrooms.
They went public because even back in the 60's-70's you still had nerds who would pick up the same radio signal from them talking back and forth.. You as NASA would rather be the one announcing it..
Another reason for keeping the public informed was that the American space programme was used as promotion of the "American way of life" in contrast to the Soviet Union's cult of secrecy. The USSR did not even announce that they were going to do a mission until it was over and successful.
That is such an important point to bring up when one encounters a moon hoaxer. There are old people out there who still have recordings from antennas they themselves designed and pointed at the spacecraft. Tell one of those radio amateurs that those signals were faked, they'll laugh in your face.
Other than some of the personal conversations (obviously such as between Lovell and his family), the film is very accurate.
Also while interest had gone down, there was still great interest in missions after the first landing, just that it had diminished somewhat. There was still a lot of coverage, (at least in Canada) and I was glued to the set for every mission broadcast as a teenager. There were also noticeable improvements in the video quality with each successive mission, along with the added scope of the missions (lunar rover vehicle), especially the last few with the camera mounted on the rover and remotely controlled. There were plenty of new things every mission to hold interest.
33:39 He did the calculations for two people because he was in charge of the LEM and the LEM was designed for two people, not for three. He did that "on autopilot" because of training. By the way, the CO2 cartridges were different because the command module and the lunar module were designed and built by different companies. Exceptionally complicated machines, built to do something never attempted before: a manned mission to the Moon. Some shortcoming in a complex system is inevitable.
8:30 Marilyn Lovell is played by Kathleen Quinlan. This is certainly her highest-profile role - she was nominated for the Oscar for Best Supporting Actress - but she’s got over 100 credits on IMDB, going back to “American Graffiti” in 1973.
29:18 The guy speaking here - who’s been ominously quiet while sitting in the background in some of the previous scenes - is John Aaron, who was already a legend in NASA for saving the Apollo 12 mission when the craft was struck by lightning during launch. That’s a big reason why Gene Kranz pretty much accepted what he said as holy writ. Aaron was also a big part of putting together the startup sequence that figures so prominently later on.
34:55 “Steely-eyed missile man” is a high compliment in NASA. It’s been around for a while, and was famously applied to John Aaron in that Apollo 12 incident I mentioned earlier. It’s also used for Rich Purnell in “The Martian.”
I read “steely-eyed missile man” and immediately thought of The Martian 🥰🥰 I love that movie so much
I remember the first time I watched it. I was holding my breath from the launch until the credits rolled. And even now, 20 years later, i still hold my breath when the launch occurs.
Nominated for 9 Oscars including Best Picture but won for Best Film Editing and Best Sound Editing.
It lost the Best Picture to BRAVEHEART.
That hurts my heart almost as much as Saving Private Ryan lost to Shakespeare In Love.
@@arkain1 The original Star Wars lost to Annie Hall.
Big fan, and I really love your reactions! Really happy that you decided to watch this! Okay, here goes an Apollo Spacecraft/Apollo 13 history lesson. First, they did have a backup oxygen tank, but it was sitting next to the one that blew up. The Apollo Command/Service Module stack, known in NASA parlance as the CSM, was powered by a device called a fuel cell. You take oxygen and hydrogen, feed it into the fuel cell and it makes three things, electricity, heat, and water. It provided 24 volts of power to run all of the necessary systems on the CSM. The Command Module, when it separated from the Service Module had batteries to provide the power requirements during reentry. Now originally, all the systems on the CSM only ran on 24 volts, but the launch tower had 65 volts run to that. To not have a problem of damaging any of the systems on the CSM, they modified many of the systems to run on 65 volts while it was being prepped for launch, and would only switch when the launch vehicle was fueled and ready to launch. And they changed almost every system. One thing that slipped through the engineering cracks was a solenoid on the oxygen tank heater. A solenoid is an electrically activated switch. These twin oxygen tanks were mounted in a single rack, and when they were doing the changes, they pulled these racks one at a time to make the changes, and then replace it with one that had been already modified. When they pulled this particular one, one of the techs didn't remove one of the bolts all the way and when it let go, it bounced off the top of the compartment that it was in, crimping the drain line. this damage went unnoticed, and the rack was modified and installed into the spacecraft that would become Apollo 13. As part of the testing to make sure the launch vehicle can handle the mission, the fill up every consumable to check for leaks. After verifying that everything works, they drain it all. And everything emptied, except for that oxygen tank. As they weren't sure what the problem was they called in Ken Mattingly, because at the time he was the mission CSM pilot. He decided to use the heater and boil of the oxygen through the safety valve. When they engaged the heater the 65 volts went through the 24 volt solenoid and welded it closed. This allowed the heater to run away. The oxygen tank held what was known as supercritical oxygen. It's so cold that it was a kind of slush, which is at a temperature is -297 degrees F. Now the temperature on the gage went to 80 degrees F at the upper end, a difference of almost 400 degrees, so they never thought that it could get anywhere near that warm, but with the heater welded on, the temperature inside the tank reached over 1000 degrees F! To insulate the various wires that passed through the tank, they were all covered with teflon, which was low temperature stable and didn't react with oxygen. At the high temperatures inside the tank, it baked all the teflon off of all the wires, and that oxygen tank was a ticking time bomb. When Jack Swigert stirred the oxygen tanks, a routine thing that allowed for a proper pressure gage reading of the tanks, an electrical arc from the fan ignited the oxygen, blowing up the tank and causing a leak in the spare tank. After the mission, they figured out the line of failures that led to the disaster, and installed a third oxygen tank on the opposite side of the Service Module, and further modified the electrical systems in the existing and following spacecraft to handle 65 volt ground power. Sorry this turned into a book, but manned spaceflight has been a passion of mine since I watched Neil and Buzz do their walk around the Sea of Tranquility when I was five.
I understood all that. Thanks for providing that level of detail.
It's hard for most people to really understand that every mission into space has been "experimental." They're always learning something new, and it's never "routine."
Spoken like a true engineer!! Thank you!
I remember when they landed on the moon, my parents let me stay up and watch it on our black and white TV. I also remember the events of Apollo 13, everyone was watching every time a report came on. Most of what you saw is how it happened. The news broadcast you saw were real ones from the time, I remember seeing them. Great reaction by you guys.
I was allowed to stay up as long as I wanted to watch Apollo 11 land, though I was only 10 and it was a school night. But I was too tired to wait for them to walk on the moon, I went to bed to listen on my radio but fell asleep.
The number 13 recurred several times during the Apollo 13 mission. But, when you think about it, Apollo 13 turned out to be extremely lucky. If that explosion had occurred at ANY other time, the crew would have died without question. That it happened when it did, when the as-yet-unused LEM was docked and available, is what saved them.
That Mattingly was left behind also proved to be a lucky break. He was acknowledged as being THE expert in many of the Apollo systems, so having his input for solving problems proved invaluable.
That wasn’t the only piece of lucky timing. The centre engine on the 2nd stage cutting out when it did was also fortunate. Apparently, it had feed problems & started pogoing (bouncing up & down) if the propellant lines had not broken, it has been calculated that in a few more bounces the engine would have broken through its supports. This would have been nasty on the down bounce; on the up bounce it would have sent the engine through the rocket!
@@chrissouthgate4554 Interesting. I did not know that one.
7:39 The Apollo 1 fire was caused by an electrical short setting fire to some teflon insulation. Even though teflon is normally considered to be flame resistant, the fact that they were using a 100% oxygen atmosphere meant it burned anyway.
16:45 Space sickness. It's basically motion sickness, but way worse. About 70% of astronauts get it their first time in space, _and_ their first time coming back to Earth and re-adapting to gravity.
17:25 They can back off and try again, as long as they have enough thruster fuel and haven't collided and damaged something.
18:14 PTC: Passive Thermal Control. Basically a very slow roll (about 1 RPM) so you don't have one side of the ship constantly facing the sun and overheating.
20:14 He opened the Cabin Repressurization Valve. With the hatch open, that valve does nothing but make a loud bang that jumpscares the other two astronauts.
31:20 The Command Module and the Lunar Module were designed and built by different government contractors, that didn't share notes except for the docking mechanism.
33:31 The LEM was only ever supposed to have two people in it, so all the numbers in his flight manual assumed two people.
44:51 No, that was real. He'd had a nightmare in his last sleep period about that, and got real paranoid about accidentally hitting the wrong switch.
47:27 That actually wasn't a dramatization. Apollo 13 actually took 4 minutes and 15 seconds to emerge from reentry blackout, the longest of any Apollo mission.
15:26 the center engine of the rocket (called J-2 engine) was automatically shut down a couple of minutes early, due to excessive vibrations (called "pogo oscillations"), leaving the rocket with only 4 engines instead of 5. There was anyway sufficient thrust margin to make to the parking orbit, so the mission was not endangered.
Another Apollo flight (Apollo 6, an unmanned test) was plagued by severe pogo oscillations.
I know it had to be done, because in a two hour movie the timeline has to be very compressed, but the way the movie was presented makes it appear that Gene Kranz was the only flight director throughout the entire mission. There were actually three others, working in shifts. Gene Kranz was on shift when the explosion happened, but by the time the astronauts shut down the Command Module and moved into the Lunar Module, the Flight was being directed by Glenn Lunney. Milton Windler was the third flight director, and Gerry Griffin the fourth, and all of them coordinated several other important events that are depicted as being under Kranz. Griffen, Windler and Kranz are still with us, Lunney passed in 2021. All four received the Presidential Medal of Freedom for their efforts in enabling the survival and return of the astronauts of Apollo 13.
Glynn Lunney, not Glenn. :)
The movie Forrest Gump came out in '94, 1 year before this movie. In Forrest Gump LT Dan tells Forrest, "If there's ever a day, you're a shrimp boat captain, that's the day I'm an astronaut."
If you're ever in Kansas, where it currently is, you should go and see the ship. It is pretty cool to see a piece of history like that. This was one of those movies where everyone burst out clapping when they came floating into view with their parachutes. Everyone was so invested.
Being able to fit a super computer in one room was a big deal at the time. They used to take up whole floors of buildings. Sometimes more than one floor. Now your laptop has more computing power than one of those. Probably your phone, too. That's how far we've come. I was born the year Apollo 13 launched, so all of this computer stuff, from the super computer, to powerful laptops and handheld devices has occurred just in my lifetime. It has been amazing to watch as the tech ticks by. I'm sure brain interfaces will be next. But I digress.
This was another fantastic movie choice and I enjoyed your reaction very much.
The Apollo spacesuit and backpack weighed 180lbs on Earth. On the Moon it weighed about 30lbs.
On the Moon, they had 1/6 the gravity, but of course the suited astronauts had the same mass as they would on Earth, and therefore momentum, as they moved around. Plus, likely a high(er) center of mass from the suit backpacks. So while walking/hopping around was easy, cornering and stopping took practice. There are a few TV camera shots of Apollo astronauts on the Moon losing traction/balance and slo-mo falling over.
The "thing" that flew off the top of the capsule shortly after launch was nominal. It was installed as an emergency "exit" (sort of a capsule ejection seat) if the rocket failed on take off. It was a small rocket that would lift the capsule away from the rocket. But once they reached a certain point in the flight, it wasn't necessary, because it was designed only to function shortly after take off.
And this is a well-done movie that dramatizes certain things, but I was riveted to my TV as a youngster when this all happened. The entire nation (and the world that had access to media that was primitive by today's standards) was also riveted.
And this was perhaps the best high-tech jury rigging of "stuff" to create a solution to a life-threatening problem in the history of humanity!
I was 9 when Apollo XIII flew. Back then we had favorite astronauts the way kids have favorite sports heros. Mine was Ed White who died in the Apollo I fire. Gemini & Apollo flights were televised by all networks until the 1st moon landing. There was a definite sharp drop off of interest once we first landed on the moon. I went to Catholic school and once the accident happened we had daily mass dedicated to the astronauts. I was in my 30's when I saw the movie in the theater. I was shocked at how strong my emotions returned to me while watching the film.
I was on a fishing trip n Canada when the moon landing happened. We hauled a 60s TV to watch it. We ran a wire to the roof of the cabin for an antenna. We set the TV on a stump around the camp fire and everyone there came to watch. One of the best memories I have.
Excellent reaction! This is one of my favorite movies. I grew up in central Florida and followed the space program closely as a kid in the 1960s an 70s. To answer Nguyen's question, even when you *know* the happy outcome the ending of this film is still very emotional. Keep up the great work, you are a fabulous reaction team. There are lots of good space movies you need to add to your schedule including "2001: A Space Odyssey," "2010: The Year We Make Contact," "The Right Stuff," "First Man," and finally "The Martian" which is not a true story but feels like it could be!
Great reaction! I love your joint reactions! Nick, you have to show your girlfriend the cult movie Robocop 1987. It's very interesting to see your joint detailed reaction to this cool movie 👍🔥
Do you have plans to do this?
I grew up in Florida during the 1970’s and 80’s. Many of these guys were household names especially Ken Mattingly who flew on the Space Shuttle.
Admiral Mattingly passed away on Halloween 2023.
The real Jim Lovell is the uniformed man Tom Hanks shakes hands with at the end
33:33 I think he only calculated it for 2 because they had to retreat to the Lunar module which was intended to take only 2 down to the moon while the 3rd astronaut stays on board the main ship, so he was just in the habit of calculating o2 in the lunar module for 2.
You see them driving Corvettes, Florida Chevrolet dealer Jim Rathman teamed up with GM to lease Corvettes to the astronauts for $1.00
All the weightlessness scenes were filmed on a big airplane in intervals of 23 secs at a time that had a set built on it. The plane dove towards the earth at a certain angle and it simulates Zero-G. Said they took 500 or so takes on this aircraft while filming. People can actually sign up for a "Zero-G" ride with others as an experience today. When this movie came out, McDonalds had a promotional where you could collect or buy a plastic Apollo 13 rocket with sticker decals you put on that was used to hold Pogs. The wife really lost her ring down the drain, but got it back alter.
Thank you! I've always wondered if they shot these scenes in zero gravity or if there was other movie magic involved
Look up Zero-G flights! Same thing, just no set. @@redcactusify2071
@@redcactusify2071There is a 40 minute BTS video on RUclips from the shooting on board of the Vomit Comet (nickname for the parabolic "Zero-G" flight) - if you search for "Apollo 13 - BTS Filming on Vomit Comet" you should find it. Id: 8Kld61n8ZDI
@@redcactusify2071 The astronauts called the plane the "vomit comet."
The Navy Captain that shakes Tom Hanks hand at the end was the real Jim Lovell.
Great reaction! I remember these events very clearly; it was a very tense few days for basically everyone in the country. When the movie came out, of course I already knew the outcome, but it was the precision and verisimilitude that got to me. I later saw a video of the actual Apollo 13 crew giving an interview - and I realized that Kevin Bacon had channeled Jack Swaggart uncannily: even the way his eyelids drooped was precisely the same.
The actress that played Jim Lovell's mom was actually Ron Howard's real life mom.
Back in 1970, we were so relieved when we saw the parachutes and Command Module coming down to the ocean. I was so glad the Astronauts survived.
If I remember right, the cause of the Apollo 1 fire was an oversight about the risk of flammability. Some particular material in the capsule was rated to not be flammable under the expected atmospheric pressure during spaceflight, but during the test, the pressure was much higher than that, and under those conditions the material was flammable. The risk was overlooked, and what would normally have been a minor and harmless spark started a fire instead.
The reason the test used higher pressure was because part of what they were testing was that the capsule could handle the appropriate relative pressure between the atmosphere inside and the vacuum of space outside. But since they were testing within Earth's atmosphere, they had to increase the pressure inside the capsule to match the same difference in pressure versus the air outside.
I think there was a higher oxygen content as well - which was amended after the fire....
@@SotonCueManit was only amended at ground level/take off, was still a pure oxygen environment in space, but as it was low pressure it didn’t make things as flammable.
The Apollo 1 tragedy with three dead astronauts was because of an immensely stupid decision of having near normal pressure pure oxygen atmosphere in the command module. A single spark ignited a fire which spread like a semi-explosion.
The movie is mostly true to history, the most famous quote "Houston we have a problem" was changed from the original more clunky "Houston, we've had a problem, we've had a main B bus undervolt" for movie flow.
Marilyn really did lose her ring down the drain but it wasn't hard to retrieve.
Everything in the movie happened except for the panicking; that's what actors would've done in the position of the astronauts.
Also, one man made the CO2 filter converter.
Fun fact: John Aaron, the guy who said they need to shut down everything, was famous before this on Apollo 12, which was hit by lightning twice, and started putting out garbage telemetry. John said "Try SCE to Aux", Commander Pete Conrad said "WHAT THE HELL IS FCE TO AUX?" Last minute replacement Al Bean knew that switch from training, which was above his head, and the auxiliary Signal Control Electronics prevented an abort, saving the mission.
Since most of the conversations between Mission Control and Apollo were recorded, the words were very accurate. Events like the wedding ring going down the drain were told in stories, often in national magazines, by the people involved. This was very documenary. The only thing that was added were things like shouting in the space ship-- they were not blaming anyone.These astronauts were recruited from fighter pilots, with many missions, and many close calls. They knew they might die. "The Right Stuff" is another movie that covers these space crews in an ultra realistic way, but even at an earlier time in the space program.
Yeah, Nick, show your girlfriend the Robocop movie! I'm sure she'll appreciate the movie 😃
Gene's vests were made specifically for each mission by his wife. They became a good luck charm looked for by the mission control crew.
I'm old enough to remember watching this as it occured. All of the TV news clips were the actual news clips
One thing I haven't seen mentioned in any of the comments sections is that the man sharing the screen with news icon Walter Cronkite is another Walter - Wally Schirra, one of the original Mercury astronauts who, as backup commander for the ill-fated crew of Apollo 1, went on to command the 1st Apollo flight; and who some years earlier had performed the first orbital rendezvous after a VERY dicey liftoff.
For a really interesting addition to this story, actor Jack Black's mom (Judith Love Cohen)was a NASA engineer that worked to bring the Apollo 13 astronauts home. She did this while in the hospital, IN LABOR! She left work to go to the hospital with computer printouts. She called in a solution and announced Jack's birth on the same phone call.
The reason for the Apollo 1 fire was the pure oxygen atmosphere at 14.7psi ( in space, the Apollo capsule used 5-6psi ) plus easily damaged Teflon coated wiring that shorted, and a plug type door that couldn't be opened against the pressure of the fire inside, it was filled with flammable materials that virtually exploded into flame due to the high oxygen pressure.
movie suggestions: Stargate (sci fi), Rain Man (drama), Fiddler on the Roof (historical musical drama), The Italian Job (2001 i think, heist)
Check out the movie " Gravity "
Answering you musing, 600 million people watched Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. It is still the most watched single event.
The United States Navy had a computer built in 1946 to calculate the trajectories of battleship artillery shells (It was called the ENIAC). The whole thing was made of vacuum tubes and filled an entire 5 story building. So, to have a computer that could fit into one room in 1969 was a pretty big deal.
As an old timer (74), I'm still amazed we've gotten 'em down to fitting in a shirt pocket. (Do shirts still have pockets?)
@@lesnyk255 You can still buy shirts that have pockets. Those are my favorite. If I have to wear one without pockets, then I wear carpenters' jeans, because they have good pockets for pens and sharpies.
@@nicksterj I was recalling what a physics professor said decades ago. Memory is faulty. Thanks for the correction.
There is actually a picture from Apollo 11 where Collins in the Command Module took a photo of the Lunar Module with Buzz and Neil inside and the Earth in the background. The picture has since got the nickname "everyone elsey" because every human alive or ever lived was in the picture except the photographer.
Wow. Just wow. Imagine Collins with his back to the Unknown, taking that photo. That is 2001-level trippy to contemplate.
FAKE!
@@Mal1234567 let me guess, you are a flat earther too.
@@larrybremer4930 The picture does not exist.
@@Mal1234567
You can find it on Google.
7:43 "Was it carelessness? I mean, I doubt it with how NASA usually runs things."
*Sighs in Challenger.*
Still with us:
Jim (just turned 96)
Buzz Aldrin (age 94)
Dick Scott, commander Apollo 15 (92 in June)
Bill Anders (flew Apollo 8 with Jim, age 90)
Fred (age 90)
Charlie Duke (got over the measles and walked on the moon when Ken flew him there for Apollo 16. The youngest person to walk on the moon [age 36 then[, and he's keeping that record, as all the proposed Artemis 3 [now scheduled for September 2026] astronauts will be older. Currently age 88)
Harrison Schmitt, geologist, who walked on the moon on Apollo 17, the only scientist to ever do so. (Age 88)
Jim had a rough 2023, though. Marilyn passed away in September, Ken left us on Halloween, and Frank Borman (Apollo 8 commander) died in November. Wishing Jim all the best to come.
BTW, if you paid attention during the opening credits, you'd see that this is based on Jim's book about the mission. ("Lost Moon") So that was a pretty good spoiler that Jim makes it back.
Such an incredible movie. Great choice! Another space suggestion with Gary Sinise and Tim Robbins (not based on truth!) MISSION TO MARS (2000) It's a sci-fi adventure, great easy and exciting watch 🥰🤩
Jack Swigert was fully qualified to dock the CSM and LEM and even if he couldn't have done it, there were 2 other people with him that were also fully qualified. His inability to perform the docking was dramatized for the movie.
If you ever get the chance, listen to the mission recordings of the actual men speaking. You'll be amazed by how cool everyone was. These men were business like test pilots. Everything going wrong was something they prepared for. Legitimate badasses all round.
Swaggert actually wrote the emergency proceedures manual for the command module. Lovell said he he did everything right 100% of the time. Also Nasa knew about the co2 problem as soon as they decided to go to the LEM & went to work on the solution immediately.
The scene of adapting the filters led to a TV show called “Junkyard Wars,” in which teams would try to build things using what they could find in said yard (which was of course seeded with useful items).
Jim Lovell said the movie was pretty accurate minus the drama. They weren't that dramatic, but Hollywood has to take a bit of dramatic license to make the movie more unnerving than those pros ever got.... but, for the most part everything that you see happened from a technical standpoint.
You guys are talking too much throughout. The questions you ask about what happened were answered in the film but you talked over all the info. A bit infuriating.
Fred only calculated for 2 people because most of the training regarding the LEM would be for when it was supposed to be landing on and ascending back up from the Moon, when there were only supposed to be 2 people in it (him and Jim) so that would probably be his mental default regarding those specific calculations.
Also, I believe they took longer to emerge from blackout at the end because they were coming in a little more shallow than usual.
Not knowing if this was based on real events just shows how much the education system has failed. The Dumbing Down of America is real.
33:05 this never happened, the people picked to be astronauts already had a positive problem solving mindset. Even though they may have been frustrated, they would never have a screaming match in the middle of a problem because it won’t solve the problem.
I remember when this happened and I also read Jim Lovells book, Lost Moon and they actually cut out a few other things that went wrong.
I remember waiting with bated breath during the radio blackout until they finally made contact again. Even though I had lived through the Apollo 13 crisis and knew how it turned out, when I watched the movie I still felt all the anxiety and tension of the events. Ron Howard did an amazing job.
It took longer than normal for reentry because the ship was too light because they still didn't get the weight quite right when there were no moon rocks. Because it was a little light, the reentry angle was a bit shallow so it took longer to reenter. Great reaction btw.
Everyone was watching the first moon landing live. I was one year old and my parents woke me up so I could watch it!
Illuminating isn't it when you see how open and revealing the news and the government used to be. Of course information critical to national defense has always been restricted.
Swigert was the Command Module pilot, Lovell the commander. On Lovells previous missions he was the CM pilot hence his confusion at sitting in the Pilots chair. Absolutely nothing to do with not trusting Swigert. I am sure you are both educated and intelligent people but I sometimes wonder if streamers like you even listen to what is going on in the movies you watch. I can't believe so many dumb comments like that.
48:59 the captain shaking Tom Hanks hand is the real Jim Lovell
The daughter says she hates Paul because he was said to have broken up the Beatles because of Yoko Ono. He has always maintained that John was the one who broke up the Beatles, 'cause he was simply going in a different direction.