Hi Mario, thanks a lot for your review! one thing to mention is that LCM idle consumption is solved after order #2200+ now it takes 190 days to drain a full battery when sitting idle, and yep, we are working on solving all those issues mentioned and we will be replacing V1 customer's bms+esc combo at manufacturing cost(within 200$), we are also developing kits to allow people to reuse their v1 controller inside onewheel GT XR PINT PintX, as we speaking, the V2 bms is now being tested on my bench, all code side work is done, now the battery cell information displays on the vesc tool app as well, looking forward to another exciting year for this community!
Get out of the way batman, Tony's my New hero !!! :) regarding the idle drain, could you not just put a n.o. relay in the circuit feeding the led ? Like am arduino style one that closes on activation of the power switch.
Thanks for the response @floatwheel. I am on track to getting a Float wheel and love what you guys have been doing to disrupt and support the market!!! Keep it up TONY, your the best
lol u guys are every were i commented on your video earlier i upgraded too a 55mph e scooter last week still wanting too test it more but there is nothing but ice here in the UK and rain , so makes it worse
@@hackjealousy I destroyed my first set of plastics. Now I have the updated plastics and I'm not going easy on them. But they're holding up without any problems.
@@dezh2544 Getting dumped is what happens when you ride a Onewheel. This board from China is ironically the safest I've ever ridden. Life-saving duty cycle monitor, god like torque that carries you over anything paired with VESC tuning that rejects all user error nose dives. Its incredible.
Good to mention non-US customers - main reason why I sold my GT for an ADVPro as well as the massive torque / hill climbing improvement as I reside in Australia.
Amazing review as always! Not a fan of the rails on this, prefer the ADV with extended battery. I'm going to wait until the newer version comes out, not willing to pay to beta test at this point but admire the people who are blazing the path for more choices, and competition.
Fantastic review and I the very small Time I had ridding ( your GT ) I agree with how it feels under foot line a thick log. Coming from a pint with that curved wheel and smaller ….everything… the pint felt light and lively. I’d love to be able to try a VESC based onewheel for comparisons sake and being able to see how the difference feels! Again fantastic review as always. Love seeing you pop up on my screen! 🎉
The connections between them are a bottleneck and potentially weak point, if the cells are close together the resistance between all the cells ( wire connections ) are uniform distance ( uniform resistance ) , by splitting the pack tge resistance between the last cell in 1 pack and the first cell in the 2nd is greater than all other wire connections. Im not a pcb level electrician so I'll wait for and be interested to hear Mario's take on it though as he's more an expert for sure in this component field than I am.
Love this review. Still waiting for mine to arrive. Any chance you’ll do an initial setup video. Putting it together and initial programming and your preferred setup.
I have indeed done one, at least for the Hypercore and Little FOCer setup. I do have one I need to reupload for the Floatwheel, but it needed some corrections. That will be up shortly.
@@TheBoardGarage awesome! I did see you had some for the other vesc boards you’ve had on your channel. Wasn’t sure if it would be the same for the FloatWheel
@@MrDmadness Yes. It isn't really a great experience off road. There is no suspension and the slower you go, the less balance you have so it is more a road wheel with the ability to handle mild off roading. It is relatively low to the ground so even going over some speed bumps will scrape the bottom.
I love my adv, the only thing that keeps me from riding it more, is the lack of custom rails. I like more clearance in the tail than straight rails allow, and it's probably going to be a long time before custom rails come to the adv.
Do you use loctite on plastics ? I juste received my board and i dont know if i do use loctite on plastics. I read on reddit, loctite eats plastics. Thanks you
You said several times that you did not like the GT ride but have you tested it with the Katana rails of Tech-rails and the performance tire from FM? Like you I really found that the original GT was difficult to handle but by making some changes my opinion has completely changed ... Thank you for this review on the Floatwheel that I have not yet had the opportunity to try and I hope that in the future of new rails will also be available for this big board.
When you talked about floatwheel pricing you mentioned + taxs/duties. From what I see floatwheels are being shipped as gifts and your not being charged that. I would love your opinion on what a Chinese market take over means for the evolution of onewheeling as a sport. 🤙
I’m just stoked to see another company making one of these things. Future Motion is notoriously a shitty company know for practices like bricking the product and forcing you to ship it back to them in California if you do something as simple as disconnect the battery.
Yeah, some of the decisions Tony made about BMSes are questionable. He mentioned that he has a charge-only BMS on its way for GT conversion kits which will turn a blown power FET into an uncontrollable battery fire. I have a Pint control board with a blown FET sitting on my bench so that's a big yikes in my book.
@@floatwheelthe bms. respectfully intended but this needs to be a high priority because if a battery fire occurs and burns down somebody's house it will tarnish your good reputation, and you know those cun*s over at Fm are looking for any ammo they can get against you... don't give them any
While I also, don't care for the 'thicker' feel of the GT style platform, there is a lot to like here. As for longevity for the early adopters, well, you can get parts. Currently I have two perfectly fine (FM)boards that need BMS's, and that pretty much bums me out every single time I think about it. I'll probably end up VESCing those boards, but it's a ridiculous situation. Thanks Mario, this was an excellent review, I rode my first one last week, and was delighted, though it is not my style of board. XR for the win~!~(with more power, and WTF rails)
There is an easy solution if you don’t mind soldiering. The problem will be fixed with V2 electronics. Altho my friends second ADV does hold the charge much better than his first one so I’m sure Tony has made changes to the current v1 electronics. The parasitic draw is still there, but far less than before. V2 will solve this!
@@devrim1134 its swapping a 0608 size resistor for a higher value one. Something like 1k for 100k, but i don't recall which one and what values exactly. Tony left is as a comment on a video somewhere not sure if it was one of his or a reply to dado. 😅
Yikes! That battery drain when powered off is insane! I've left my PintX off for well over a month and when I finally came back to it, it was still pretty much the same charge, it maybe lost 2%. And having cell undervoltage protection dump a rider because one cell fell below the limit isn't good either. It should just give a very noticeable warning to stop riding immediately!
Wow. Didn't know the Floatwheel will also throw you if the battery is undervoltage. I figure it would be possible but was hoping that is not the case (considering how Tony mentioned it is more powerful than even a GT-S in a recent video). Oh well, I switched over to an electric longboard as my go to. Not as nimble as a OneWheel but a lot safer (no throwing me off without notice), lighter (less than 20 pounds, even my Pint is heavier than that), easier to carry (I bought skateboard straps that allow me to carry it on my back, < 20 pounds is easily manageable across both shoulders compare to an inbalanced one sided lug), faster (max speed at 29 mph, although I don't dare to hit that), cheaper ($400 Meepo V3S + $180 for 110mm cloudwheel rovers) and no mount of shame (in fact, very easy to hop on/off by holding down the brake, which locks the board in place). Don't get me wrong. I truly hope the VESC community succeeds in creating a PEV that is safe for commutes. I will still ride my Pint in a park or a bike path as it is fun, but that's about it.
If you think ya can't be thrown off an eskate I have bad news for you... If it suddenly looses power in the same manner it's going to rapidly slow down and unless you react very fast with your body position you're going off the front. If you have a fet failure or a few other things the wheel(s) can lock up creating a really severe case of this. NOTHING driven by electronics is fault-less.
Not really. Different people have said and shown different things in different videos. There’s been no transparent testing methodology shown by an independent source, with attempts at limiting variables. Hence, it depends on who you ask.
@TheBoardGarage that's fair, it does undeniably have more power and a faster top speed. As you know more volts does /= more power to motor just a greater "pressure" to overcome resistance ( which could be a heavier rider ) I'd be curious to see a bench test of the static voltage, the freewheel amp flow and the in rush voltage. the static voltage and the amp flow alone are enough to know its potential work. Thanks for everything you do Mario, always a pleasure to chat and watch your videos.
I appreciate the kind words. I have a colleague who is designing a purpose built dynamometer to measure these boards. I’m hoping it will help add some more information to the conversations.
@@TheBoardGarage correct me if I'm wrong, but you are a systems electrician? If so then you know how to calculate work load based on output, so without even spinning the wheel you can absolutely know the potential usable energy in a system through calculation. If you are not a systems electrician then you're damn skilled at it, but in that case I prepose you and tfl get together and do a more controlled test, would make a great video. :) as always, respectfully intended.
No. it's just two pieces. the board itself, and the hub/motor/tire itself. assembly is just putting the two pieces together with 4 hub bolts and 4 additional block screws, and carefully plugging in the motor plug. it's a ~15min job.
@@telace1Google floatwheel, their site is currently in russia ( future motion lawyers have been effective at shutting down their us based site ) and you just pay with crypto, which put off many people but is not as hard as people think. :)
I agree with both comments, if you're looking for an out of the box ride ( with some assembly ) the fl8atwheel is a no Brainer. Custom rides are what will push things to new levels though .
@@MrDmadness yes the DIY approach will be better for people willing to source parts, gather knowledge and tinker etc. but the best out the box experience (with a little software configuration) is the floatwheel.
Adv.. future motion is shady as f. I say this with thousands of km ridden on onewheels, I would no longer support future motion which 7s sad cause I was a backer on kickstarter when they first came out... id love to love the company but they are anti fonts er and don't listen to their customer base at all.. proprietary components all over.
Hi Mario, thanks a lot for your review! one thing to mention is that LCM idle consumption is solved after order #2200+ now it takes 190 days to drain a full battery when sitting idle, and yep, we are working on solving all those issues mentioned and we will be replacing V1 customer's bms+esc combo at manufacturing cost(within 200$), we are also developing kits to allow people to reuse their v1 controller inside onewheel GT XR PINT PintX, as we speaking, the V2 bms is now being tested on my bench, all code side work is done, now the battery cell information displays on the vesc tool app as well, looking forward to another exciting year for this community!
Get out of the way batman, Tony's my New hero !!! :) regarding the idle drain, could you not just put a n.o. relay in the circuit feeding the led ? Like am arduino style one that closes on activation of the power switch.
Thanks for the response @floatwheel. I am on track to getting a Float wheel and love what you guys have been doing to disrupt and support the market!!! Keep it up TONY, your the best
I can vouch for the idle consumption, #2680 was ~60% after taking almost 3 months to be delivered.
Long live FW.
It's one thing to provide a technical review to us, but to also provide an artistic/aesthetic review is amazing and welcome.
That’s very kind, thank you. Good to hear from you sir.
Mario! I was just working on our Floatwheel review video when I saw your video. I don't think I have anything else to add. Excellent work, as always!
Thank you! That means a lot. 🙏
lol u guys are every were i commented on your video earlier i upgraded too a 55mph e scooter last week still wanting too test it more but there is nothing but ice here in the UK and rain , so makes it worse
Jimmy where is your review? Would love to see it!
@@chrisc790 it is in the editing phase. Coming soon to a RUclips app near you!
I love my ADV, done hundreds of miles on it!
Yeah, I’m on the second set of plastics - I’m trying to baby them for now.
@@hackjealousy I destroyed my first set of plastics. Now I have the updated plastics and I'm not going easy on them. But they're holding up without any problems.
@@dezh2544 Getting dumped is what happens when you ride a Onewheel. This board from China is ironically the safest I've ever ridden. Life-saving duty cycle monitor, god like torque that carries you over anything paired with VESC tuning that rejects all user error nose dives. Its incredible.
How did you order it! When I go to order the ADV I am unable to. It won't allow me to choose a color. Thus not allowing me to put it in the cart.
Fair review. This should be the one everyone shares
Good to mention non-US customers - main reason why I sold my GT for an ADVPro as well as the massive torque / hill climbing improvement as I reside in Australia.
What’s the shipping and payment process like to Australia… I’m Australian and also looking at the ADVPro
Paid with Coinbase, was 2 month wait back when I ordered Aug '23. Shipping then was only $130 but has gone up now to AUS.@@Joeyboi74832
@@Joeyboi74832 i used Coinbase, took 2 months to arrive, shipping last year was usd130 but is more now.
sure..because we don't have hills in the USA.
I wrote it badly Australia referring to no service-centres outside of CA.
@@christopher-s7w
Amazing review as always! Not a fan of the rails on this, prefer the ADV with extended battery. I'm going to wait until the newer version comes out, not willing to pay to beta test at this point but admire the people who are blazing the path for more choices, and competition.
Fantastic review and I the very small
Time I had ridding ( your GT ) I agree with how it feels under foot line a thick log. Coming from a pint with that curved wheel and smaller ….everything… the pint felt light and lively. I’d love to be able to try a VESC based onewheel for comparisons sake and being able to see how the difference feels! Again fantastic review as always. Love seeing you pop up on my screen! 🎉
Thank you sir. Some day soon, I’m sure you’ll be able to try a range of these kinds of boards. Some are very impressive.
great video & presentation. thx for all the honest info. planning to Vesc my GT via FW's V2 controller this year 🤙🏾
3:41 What is bold about a splitting battery pack?
The connections between them are a bottleneck and potentially weak point, if the cells are close together the resistance between all the cells ( wire connections ) are uniform distance ( uniform resistance ) , by splitting the pack tge resistance between the last cell in 1 pack and the first cell in the 2nd is greater than all other wire connections. Im not a pcb level electrician so I'll wait for and be interested to hear Mario's take on it though as he's more an expert for sure in this component field than I am.
Love this review. Still waiting for mine to arrive. Any chance you’ll do an initial setup video. Putting it together and initial programming and your preferred setup.
He's already done that "VESC One Wheel Full Setup"
I have indeed done one, at least for the Hypercore and Little FOCer setup. I do have one I need to reupload for the Floatwheel, but it needed some corrections. That will be up shortly.
@@TheBoardGarage awesome! I did see you had some for the other vesc boards you’ve had on your channel. Wasn’t sure if it would be the same for the FloatWheel
Great video! Thank you for making videos for grownups about one wheeled boards !
Another great video Mario!
Excellent, professional review. Holding out for the V2 with Smart BMS. Meanwhile enjoying riding the 2swift board while I impatiently wait.
Have you tried the 2 swift off road ? I've seen one or 2 In the city but never seen them off road. 2swift claims they are off road capable.
@@MrDmadness Yes. It isn't really a great experience off road. There is no suspension and the slower you go, the less balance you have so it is more a road wheel with the ability to handle mild off roading. It is relatively low to the ground so even going over some speed bumps will scrape the bottom.
@@bookmark2846 that was my take on it, i ride primarily off road on mtb trails and such but I'd absolutely rip one if those around on some pavement :)
Great review!!
Great video.
I’m looking forward to the V2 electronics, I will probably buy the updated floatwheel and sell my GT and XR.
FFM, R2R ❤
I love my adv, the only thing that keeps me from riding it more, is the lack of custom rails. I like more clearance in the tail than straight rails allow, and it's probably going to be a long time before custom rails come to the adv.
Great video. Thanks Mario.
Awesome video, well done 👏🏼
I also have an adv pro by floatwheel and it's actually much quieter than any future motion board I've owned including my gt.
Oof I wasn't aware of the lack of individual cell overcharge protection. That's a real fire hazard
Thanks. Gonna wait a few years before I buy one.
Ooooo I like that dubstep sound
best floatwheel review, full agree
great job with the video!!!
Very informative! Thank you
Do you use loctite on plastics ? I juste received my board and i dont know if i do use loctite on plastics. I read on reddit, loctite eats plastics.
Thanks you
Why not having some sort of Fang wheels off the shelf? Are they not effective?
Not really, fangs are best used for street tricks imo
Where can I buy this? I don’t even see it anywhere on the Internet.
You said several times that you did not like the GT ride but have you tested it with the Katana rails of Tech-rails and the performance tire from FM?
Like you I really found that the original GT was difficult to handle but by making some changes my opinion has completely changed ... Thank you for this review on the Floatwheel that I have not yet had the opportunity to try and I hope that in the future of new rails will also be available for this big board.
My GT had WTF Low Riders, and an Enduro tire. Still prefer the ADV!
@@smokeyBJJ ADV is undeniably a good board too... I can't wait to test its power!
@@ChristopheGUIVANT I’ve already logged 6800w, it’s unstoppable power! If you know how to ride you’ll never carry it up a hill again lol
@smokeyBJJ that is good to hear, my exact GT setup, adv should be here any day now.
I got the light-saber sound to go away except when the board warms up.
Was that via the adjustments that Tony suggested sone time ago?? Glad to ( not ) hear it :)
When you talked about floatwheel pricing you mentioned + taxs/duties. From what I see floatwheels are being shipped as gifts and your not being charged that.
I would love your opinion on what a Chinese market take over means for the evolution of onewheeling as a sport. 🤙
Tbh, onewheels are also effectively made in china, they are assembled in America but the pcb and such look like custom orders from pcb way.
need sand paddles for the OW
surf them dunes
I’m just stoked to see another company making one of these things. Future Motion is notoriously a shitty company know for practices like bricking the product and forcing you to ship it back to them in California if you do something as simple as disconnect the battery.
I totally agree with you, am really tired of that things
Having coffee & watching
Suns out so I’m off
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Yeah, some of the decisions Tony made about BMSes are questionable. He mentioned that he has a charge-only BMS on its way for GT conversion kits which will turn a blown power FET into an uncontrollable battery fire. I have a Pint control board with a blown FET sitting on my bench so that's a big yikes in my book.
we added a 100A fuse for the charge only bms in gt kit
@@floatwheelthe bms. respectfully intended but this needs to be a high priority because if a battery fire occurs and burns down somebody's house it will tarnish your good reputation, and you know those cun*s over at Fm are looking for any ammo they can get against you... don't give them any
While I also, don't care for the 'thicker' feel of the GT style platform, there is a lot to like here. As for longevity for the early adopters, well, you can get parts. Currently I have two perfectly fine (FM)boards that need BMS's, and that pretty much bums me out every single time I think about it. I'll probably end up VESCing those boards, but it's a ridiculous situation. Thanks Mario, this was an excellent review, I rode my first one last week, and was delighted, though it is not my style of board. XR for the win~!~(with more power, and WTF rails)
great video!
I thought the idle drain was fixed months ago.
There is an easy solution if you don’t mind soldiering. The problem will be fixed with V2 electronics. Altho my friends second ADV does hold the charge much better than his first one so I’m sure Tony has made changes to the current v1 electronics. The parasitic draw is still there, but far less than before. V2 will solve this!
Friend of mine has an adv and i don’t mind soldering. What is the solution? :)
@@devrim1134 its swapping a 0608 size resistor for a higher value one. Something like 1k for 100k, but i don't recall which one and what values exactly. Tony left is as a comment on a video somewhere not sure if it was one of his or a reply to dado. 😅
@@devrim1134 I’ll take a look for it
@@devrim1134 replacing the LCM bottom R6 resistor to 1206 200K resistor. I’ll continue looking for pics. I got that from my notes
Yikes! That battery drain when powered off is insane! I've left my PintX off for well over a month and when I finally came back to it, it was still pretty much the same charge, it maybe lost 2%. And having cell undervoltage protection dump a rider because one cell fell below the limit isn't good either. It should just give a very noticeable warning to stop riding immediately!
I'm new.. is this the only production line made one wheel after the onewheel?
After watching Ross video I'll never buy the OG one. Thanks
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How much?
Never mind. Said $1800. Too much.
@ulyssesmelendres504 The GTS it compares to is like 3000 😂
Wow. Didn't know the Floatwheel will also throw you if the battery is undervoltage. I figure it would be possible but was hoping that is not the case (considering how Tony mentioned it is more powerful than even a GT-S in a recent video). Oh well, I switched over to an electric longboard as my go to. Not as nimble as a OneWheel but a lot safer (no throwing me off without notice), lighter (less than 20 pounds, even my Pint is heavier than that), easier to carry (I bought skateboard straps that allow me to carry it on my back, < 20 pounds is easily manageable across both shoulders compare to an inbalanced one sided lug), faster (max speed at 29 mph, although I don't dare to hit that), cheaper ($400 Meepo V3S + $180 for 110mm cloudwheel rovers) and no mount of shame (in fact, very easy to hop on/off by holding down the brake, which locks the board in place).
Don't get me wrong. I truly hope the VESC community succeeds in creating a PEV that is safe for commutes. I will still ride my Pint in a park or a bike path as it is fun, but that's about it.
If you think ya can't be thrown off an eskate I have bad news for you...
If it suddenly looses power in the same manner it's going to rapidly slow down and unless you react very fast with your body position you're going off the front. If you have a fet failure or a few other things the wheel(s) can lock up creating a really severe case of this. NOTHING driven by electronics is fault-less.
$1600-$1800 depending if you get the Pro.
Mine doesn't make that much noise.
Mine either. Per feedback heard adjusting zero vector frequencu should solve this
Don't rely on the strap of your Skydio 2 case.
It actually does sit WAY above a onewheel gts... this has been tested extensively
Not really. Different people have said and shown different things in different videos. There’s been no transparent testing methodology shown by an independent source, with attempts at limiting variables. Hence, it depends on who you ask.
@TheBoardGarage that's fair, it does undeniably have more power and a faster top speed. As you know more volts does /= more power to motor just a greater "pressure" to overcome resistance ( which could be a heavier rider ) I'd be curious to see a bench test of the static voltage, the freewheel amp flow and the in rush voltage. the static voltage and the amp flow alone are enough to know its potential work. Thanks for everything you do Mario, always a pleasure to chat and watch your videos.
I appreciate the kind words. I have a colleague who is designing a purpose built dynamometer to measure these boards. I’m hoping it will help add some more information to the conversations.
@@TheBoardGarage correct me if I'm wrong, but you are a systems electrician? If so then you know how to calculate work load based on output, so without even spinning the wheel you can absolutely know the potential usable energy in a system through calculation. If you are not a systems electrician then you're damn skilled at it, but in that case I prepose you and tfl get together and do a more controlled test, would make a great video. :) as always, respectfully intended.
No good
So you have to buy the parts and build this ADV???
You buy a kit essentially. It’s fairly easy to put together.
No. it's just two pieces. the board itself, and the hub/motor/tire itself. assembly is just putting the two pieces together with 4 hub bolts and 4 additional block screws, and carefully plugging in the motor plug. it's a ~15min job.
@@hackjealousy where do you get the kit
@@telace1Google floatwheel, their site is currently in russia ( future motion lawyers have been effective at shutting down their us based site ) and you just pay with crypto, which put off many people but is not as hard as people think. :)
This is way too complicated to order and assemble
👍👍
It's not built in the US so I'd rather support onewheel.
1V drain per two days is pretty terrible.
These boards are far far superior to future motions boards.
The only choice in a one wheeled electric board right now should be the floatwheel.
I disagree. Custom built boards are still a large step above anything else.
I agree with both comments, if you're looking for an out of the box ride ( with some assembly ) the fl8atwheel is a no Brainer. Custom rides are what will push things to new levels though .
@@MrDmadness yes the DIY approach will be better for people willing to source parts, gather knowledge and tinker etc.
but the best out the box experience (with a little software configuration) is the floatwheel.
@@dogbog99 can't argue with that :)
Day 1 of asking for a adv or a onewheel
Adv.. future motion is shady as f. I say this with thousands of km ridden on onewheels, I would no longer support future motion which 7s sad cause I was a backer on kickstarter when they first came out... id love to love the company but they are anti fonts er and don't listen to their customer base at all.. proprietary components all over.
Continue to buy chinese stuff and cry that you have no more job
Im betting the screen ur looking at right now is made in china.
Gawwwwd. Shut up
Ummmm Chineesium...
...and what pev do you ride that isn't made in China?
Jealous?
Fun fact onewheels are also made in China, they are assembled in th USA only.
@@MrDmadness Fun Fact: Onewheel by Future Motion Inc. was conceived designed and developed by an American in America.
@@MrRipn2u ...and MADE in CHINA!
Ridiculously over priced for what it is.
It's very fairly price
true, but onewheels are more expensive