they do reach T500, there's a bunch of videos from streamers playing against/accidentally with cheaters. and people do notice, they do report, it's just blizz does nothing about it
It happens because there is no anti-cheat. It's all a big lie by Blizz. Their system is only users reporting and they only do wave banning every couple months so people get to hack for whole seasons at a time.
I don't think all 4 are cheating, at least Illari is being boosted. "Oblivion" and "Kovaaksbrain" both obviously are hardlocking. "VVS" has walls, at the very least, and just weird micro flicks but literally negative gamesense, looks like a new player. Gary is a new player who doesn't know how his cheat menu works till later. idk how tf any of them are in a Diamond lobby. I think "VVS" is a literal programmed AI. Also if they're in a 5 stack queueing ranked at 3am. Doesn't that mean the entire other team is a stack too? Did anyone check "Qastiel's" pov? Because they made that change: you cannot 4 stack in ranked. It's 3 stack, 2 stack, solo or 5 stack.
Yeah you can 4 stack if you're all the same rank (within 500 sr of one another). Otherwise it won't let you queue. But it's a lot easier (and more likely) to just wide queue as 5 than to have 4 people all within such a small range.
Dam I just posted that and now I'm not original :( but fr when I log into a game on my laptop without a mouse connected (just to test something lol ofc I don't play like that) the camera movement looks just like that
I did some research on Overwatch cheats and how easily accessible it is to get them and found people can just copy and paste a code into a mouse macro recorders which are built into most mouses e.q logitech ghub, razer software etc. it is absolutely disgusting how easy it is for people to get cheats and not get banned. Not only are people cheating because they are bad at the game, they are cheating because they simply get away with it because there is no anti cheat, this game is infiltrated with hackers to the brim almost every game there is a suspicion. I don't think blizzard has the power at this point to ban all the cheaters since it's a infestation and their last ban wave was months ago. if they do get banned they will just make a new account or buy a new account and the cycle continues over and over. at this point im just convinced they don't wanna do anything because some how they're getting money out of these cheaters because they're probably buying skins and also makes the player count look good on paper.
Clearly your research wasn’t that good, since macros are not the same thing as aimbot or wallhack. But it’s true that overwatch cheats are easy to get, if you are willing to pay for them.
@@IcanFlame777 You're wrong, i suggest you do some research as well. I would provide links but i don't think sharing linking to cheats in youtube comment section is appropriate. There are definitely AHK Scripts that target the heads of the targets by using HEX values. there are also auto genji dashes. mercy heal bots etcetc
@@Luciferthekingofpurgitory If you mean by anticheat people reporting then yes there is anticheat. Outside of that no there isn't. If there is it's worthless with all the videos out there of literally spinbotters cheating. Movements that impossible for humans to do and be accurate.
Why don’t people realize the aim doesn’t need to lock to be aimbotting? Better cheats incorporate missed shots and smoother aim to seem more natural lol
Well yes but its hard to tell so that's why streamers give the benefit of the doubt, to not falsely accuse someone. I literally got called a hacker and im gold so idk how anyone would think im good 😭 streamers dont wanna do a mistake like that but publicly
Most people are clueless even after watching streamers out them for hours. It's not about accuracy so much as unnatural movements. Hard locking is just easy giveaway that they're 100% cheating. Triggerbots can be very hard to confidently call out if the player has even somewhat decent aim (and manually presses m1 sometimes to not have 100% accuracy ofc)
i think the mauga tracks the balls head while he is slamming and because the ball spins the head spins too so he follows the head and it looks like its following the spin
The good news is I'm FINALLY starting to get back reports that action has been taken from my reporting. The bad news is I think cheating is so bad now that there is just no catching up to get them banned. Just last night I played 7 matches and there was a cheat in at least 5 of the matches. Sometimes one on both sides.
Jay “k were spectating a diamond 5, 3am cheater lobby today boys” Jay literally 1min later “I wish we knew the rank of this lobby” The whole chat screaming “it’s diamond 5” but “somehow” jay ignores it lol Jesus
i think illari was hacking, but it was walls. Before they try and eliminate the 45hp mercy, illari was shooting at ball and ball moves back to mercy whos on point. Im pretty sure the illari followed the ball through the wall and payload. 12:07 is the point I mean. I can understand high lvl players doing that but this kid with 0 braincells makes me think they had walls at least.
Ive watched these videos for so long but i always wondered why the cheaters were red. Untill today when i realized they are from the enemies team on reply. I felt so stupid.
The 30% is a good number based on people that admit to cheating. It is actually a bit higher if you use the "no comment". To put this in perspective using 25%. This means every match there is a likelihood that 2.5 people are cheating, and we definitely know that isn't the case, so expanding it to playing matches. So if you play 5 matches there is a 12.5% chance you will play against a cheater. Number of matches X 10 (amount of players) X 25%. If you play 10 matches that comes to a 25% chance. Throwing randomness into the question keeps this stat looking low. In the case of this video, they their next 9 games should be hacker free. That number is still to high to want to keep playing after a sus match, even if it truely is a skill diff. When matchmaker is working "OK" there is a greater chance of a cheater than a much better player.
if 30% of the playerbase would cheat that would mean there would be a cheater in every single match. I think its more like 5% which means about 1 i n 3 games, which is still A LOT, i think.
Not gonna lie there were a couple moments it looked like the illari was locking on to people but that's just what it looked like to me. Still couldn't hit any shots tho
I played in ga game with 2spicy4u I thought it was someone else until I remember that he killed me 3 times when I sneaked from the back as sombra against widow, I couldn’t kill him once…
I'd like to see a prime status or trust factor system being offered to players so we won't encounter as many cheaters. It's just too easy to cheat in OW2 after being f2p, hardly any repercussions.
I see your vids a lot, how big is the cheating problem in OW2? I feel like it's getting worse, but I just can't tell. Is it smurfing? Are people really just cheating their ass off? I get people with over 80% accuracy in my gold lobby, while I sit around 75%.
It’s the streamer names, they censor the names and replace them with just random names from a list (usually just ow references) they change throughout watching replay ect. so it’s better for streamers to play (although a lot of people use them esp cheaters just to censor their names)
i think the magar spins his cross hair when shooting the ball coz the ball headshot hit box moves when he about the pile drive n spin so the hacker lock also spins along ... its so funny i feel they all should be ban for association w cheater no way they are diamond n play like a brand new player ... dont know ablities position or even the MAP to where the enemies are coming from i mean there is arrow on the floor
It is very clearly a 5 stack of cheaters Gary was really obvious cause hes clearly new and dosent know the map, so he sees the enemy team through the wall and wants to get to them, but dosent understand how to. VVS is cheating as well you are telling me this guy cant aim for shit w/ his heals and has the playstyle of a newborn and can still perfectly track this widows head after not knowing her obvious position, nah (10:50).
You know what ALL of these cheater videos really prove... That all those "if I were/they were hacking why am I/they dying/losing so much" arguments are just crap arguments.
Boosted or not, the fact that this Illari is Diamond elo when my 8 year old mmr fucked account is stuck in elo hell in silver-gold actually pisses me off... I'm not good at the game, but I'm sure as hell not THAT bad.
The Illari is 10000% cheating. The person has their DPI up to 14 billion and in game sens is maxxed out. Breathing on their mouse sends the crosshair flying, and locks onto people a few times. The one with shooting Widow thru the wall should be blatant to you. Also, Gary is staring at people thru walls before the aimlock
Shouldn't it have been a dead give away that Gary was at least using walls when he got lost, he was honing in on the enemies through the wall.
yeah when he got lost in spawn and stared at the enemy team through the wall.
He was looking at the payload
@@biggyblunts5788dude he was so not. He was literally looking directly at them through the wall
@@biggyblunts5788 I thought he was too until we saw him start locking
@Boof2.0 I'm not saying he wasn't cheating lmao, but he was clearly looking at the payload and got lost
7:05 he literally said the ranked he’s diamond jay is just oblivious 😭
he forgor 💀
the Illari looks like they're playing with a controller at max sensitivity
truth. and the no aim assist is making it impossible for them too
looks like the illiari is ass at the game and a bronze player
She's lagging
It's freezing
does bro have short term memory loss😭😭 he literally said diamond 5
EXACTLY, during the intro he mentioned the rank. Like?? This was moments ago
3:16 that Soldier death was so dramatic
How bad is the anti cheat system in overwatch like i think genuinely anyone can cheat to reach top 500 and few would notice
They have. And with spinbotting dollar store hacks too.
Bc supposedly they ban in waves so even if the anticheat detects something they wont get banned right away...
Okay well they don't ban them immediately, they ban in waves so the hack manufacturers don't know what flagged the system.
they do reach T500, there's a bunch of videos from streamers playing against/accidentally with cheaters. and people do notice, they do report, it's just blizz does nothing about it
It happens because there is no anti-cheat. It's all a big lie by Blizz. Their system is only users reporting and they only do wave banning every couple months so people get to hack for whole seasons at a time.
7:10 How tf did he miss the rank HE READ IT
Gary full sent it on the hard lock that shit was so funny watching him try to shoot the ball's head when he was slamming.
I had a hardcore aimboting echo in.. the arcade community mode.
Nah this guy just can't aim
-The echo
Worst mode btw, they somehow managed to break ball and ana
@@Kat-xp8znits not meant to be balanced
@@TamWam_ yeah didn't say it was balanced, i said it broke chars which means its not fun whatsoever
I don't think all 4 are cheating, at least Illari is being boosted. "Oblivion" and "Kovaaksbrain" both obviously are hardlocking. "VVS" has walls, at the very least, and just weird micro flicks but literally negative gamesense, looks like a new player. Gary is a new player who doesn't know how his cheat menu works till later. idk how tf any of them are in a Diamond lobby.
I think "VVS" is a literal programmed AI.
Also if they're in a 5 stack queueing ranked at 3am. Doesn't that mean the entire other team is a stack too? Did anyone check "Qastiel's" pov?
Because they made that change: you cannot 4 stack in ranked. It's 3 stack, 2 stack, solo or 5 stack.
u can 4 stack when u are all at the same rank how i remember
Yeah you can 4 stack if you're all the same rank (within 500 sr of one another). Otherwise it won't let you queue. But it's a lot easier (and more likely) to just wide queue as 5 than to have 4 people all within such a small range.
It looked like they were playing mercy anyways
You can 4 stack but most likely these cheaters have bought accounts because even with cheats they don't have the skill level for diamond
these people being diamond 5 completely explains my competitive experience.
Is the illari playing on a fucking trackpad?
Dam I just posted that and now I'm not original :(
but fr when I log into a game on my laptop without a mouse connected (just to test something lol ofc I don't play like that) the camera movement looks just like that
Nah, they're using a DDR dancepad
It's her lagging or freezing
I did some research on Overwatch cheats and how easily accessible it is to get them and found people can just copy and paste a code into a mouse macro recorders which are built into most mouses e.q logitech ghub, razer software etc. it is absolutely disgusting how easy it is for people to get cheats and not get banned. Not only are people cheating because they are bad at the game, they are cheating because they simply get away with it because there is no anti cheat, this game is infiltrated with hackers to the brim almost every game there is a suspicion. I don't think blizzard has the power at this point to ban all the cheaters since it's a infestation and their last ban wave was months ago. if they do get banned they will just make a new account or buy a new account and the cycle continues over and over. at this point im just convinced they don't wanna do anything because some how they're getting money out of these cheaters because they're probably buying skins and also makes the player count look good on paper.
Brother you're talking about overwatch. Macros would do nothing
Clearly your research wasn’t that good, since macros are not the same thing as aimbot or wallhack. But it’s true that overwatch cheats are easy to get, if you are willing to pay for them.
There is an anti cheat but in the last 3 weeks cheating in all fps games has risen because people found a new cheat that’s insanely strong
@@IcanFlame777 You're wrong, i suggest you do some research as well. I would provide links but i don't think sharing linking to cheats in youtube comment section is appropriate. There are definitely AHK Scripts that target the heads of the targets by using HEX values. there are also auto genji dashes. mercy heal bots etcetc
@@Luciferthekingofpurgitory If you mean by anticheat people reporting then yes there is anticheat. Outside of that no there isn't. If there is it's worthless with all the videos out there of literally spinbotters cheating. Movements that impossible for humans to do and be accurate.
Why don’t people realize the aim doesn’t need to lock to be aimbotting? Better cheats incorporate missed shots and smoother aim to seem more natural lol
Well yes but its hard to tell so that's why streamers give the benefit of the doubt, to not falsely accuse someone. I literally got called a hacker and im gold so idk how anyone would think im good 😭 streamers dont wanna do a mistake like that but publicly
@@TamWam_ for sure! False accusations hurts them. Just more or so tired of the viewers comments lol
Most people are clueless even after watching streamers out them for hours. It's not about accuracy so much as unnatural movements. Hard locking is just easy giveaway that they're 100% cheating. Triggerbots can be very hard to confidently call out if the player has even somewhat decent aim (and manually presses m1 sometimes to not have 100% accuracy ofc)
4 cheaters and still lose a round is beyond me, how tf is that even possible bruh.
I always joked about one day we will see a full 4 stack or a whole team of cheaters but seeing it actually happen is kinda sad... wtf happened to OW
free game, you ban a cheater and they just make a new account
@@nooby9418 yeah.. l knew this was gonna happen once they made the game free, it’s just sad seeing the state of OW these days
@@igoonx15Not just overwtach, cod, apex, rainbow 6 ECT has a lot of cheaters these days.
Flats did a video where he found a legit 5 stack of all cheaters.
Me getting recommend this video at 3 am😂
i think the mauga tracks the balls head while he is slamming and because the ball spins the head spins too so he follows the head and it looks like its following the spin
No the head is non existent it's spinning because his mouse is moving the aim away from the center of the ball and the aimbot is correcting it
The good news is I'm FINALLY starting to get back reports that action has been taken from my reporting. The bad news is I think cheating is so bad now that there is just no catching up to get them banned. Just last night I played 7 matches and there was a cheat in at least 5 of the matches. Sometimes one on both sides.
That Illari perfectly snaps to enemy's heads SUSPICIOUSLY often for her to not be cheating.
GARY TURNED TS ALL THE WAY UP LMAOOO how is brother gonna turn his cheats to 100 and he doesnt even know the map im crying
Jay “k were spectating a diamond 5, 3am cheater lobby today boys”
Jay literally 1min later “I wish we knew the rank of this lobby”
The whole chat screaming “it’s diamond 5” but “somehow” jay ignores it lol Jesus
@jay3 your read out that they were a 5 stack diamond at the beginning of
It was talking about the guy who submitted it
Can confirm: Jay3 can't read
@@haydensargent1752 yeah the guy that submitted it was a 5 stack in diamond
@@kryptonix3940he realises later in the vid
@@haydensargent1752 and the guy who submitted it say with was 5 stack diamond 5 lmao
I think the Illari has hitscan hacks while non a projectile character.
Thats what im thinkin, everyone else saying she doesnt have any hacks but some of those flicks she was doing were so unnatural
He asked about rank like 10 times when he literally said it was a D5 5 stack lmao
It is trying to go for head shots on the wrecking ball.
14:09 the mercy instatly falling over after the res looks so funny
gary having literal 0 map sense and just trusting his wall hack to make it to the enemy was so funny
Jay, you read out the rank in the paragraph of the post. It was Diamond 5 😂
the Illari was bad but maybe it was aimbot to her own teammates 😭😭😭
illari plays like she got the cheapest cheats out of the 4
He be spinnin
i think illari was hacking, but it was walls. Before they try and eliminate the 45hp mercy, illari was shooting at ball and ball moves back to mercy whos on point. Im pretty sure the illari followed the ball through the wall and payload. 12:07 is the point I mean. I can understand high lvl players doing that but this kid with 0 braincells makes me think they had walls at least.
@jay3 u legit read 5 stack of diamond
I love the giveaway for Garry being his aimbot tracking balls head during slam as he spins around 😂
Ive watched these videos for so long but i always wondered why the cheaters were red. Untill today when i realized they are from the enemies team on reply. I felt so stupid.
That friend group sounds amazing!
VVS locks through a wall at 10:22
Wrecking balls head in the ball is going with the spin so the cheat is trying to lock onto the head so it looks so funky lol
The 30% is a good number based on people that admit to cheating. It is actually a bit higher if you use the "no comment". To put this in perspective using 25%. This means every match there is a likelihood that 2.5 people are cheating, and we definitely know that isn't the case, so expanding it to playing matches. So if you play 5 matches there is a 12.5% chance you will play against a cheater. Number of matches X 10 (amount of players) X 25%. If you play 10 matches that comes to a 25% chance. Throwing randomness into the question keeps this stat looking low. In the case of this video, they their next 9 games should be hacker free. That number is still to high to want to keep playing after a sus match, even if it truely is a skill diff. When matchmaker is working "OK" there is a greater chance of a cheater than a much better player.
Not gary going the wrong way on junkertown 😅😅😅
if 30% of the playerbase would cheat that would mean there would be a cheater in every single match. I think its more like 5% which means about 1 i n 3 games, which is still A LOT, i think.
Not Jay forgetting it’s diamond 5😂
Looks like Illari is controlled via trackpad lol
That's insane
Looks like vvs(illari) is using default sensitivity 15.
Love it when the aimbot follows wrecking balls head while spinning xD
Gary wall aiming on the nonexistent head on the ball
"don't queue at 3am" ahh vid
It almost looks like the Illari is using a trackpad with the way their aim is shifting...
Not gonna lie there were a couple moments it looked like the illari was locking on to people but that's just what it looked like to me. Still couldn't hit any shots tho
I played in ga game with 2spicy4u I thought it was someone else until I remember that he killed me 3 times when I sneaked from the back as sombra against widow, I couldn’t kill him once…
Wait wait wait, ur telling me 2spicy4u is cheating? I literally played 2 games with him, one against, one on his team. That’s wild.
I've seen 2spicy4u and krusher99 but apparently they're streamer mode names or something
The illari must be playing a trackpad with high sens or something
I'd like to see a prime status or trust factor system being offered to players so we won't encounter as many cheaters. It's just too easy to cheat in OW2 after being f2p, hardly any repercussions.
I JUST GOT INTO A GAME WITH THESE SAME GUYS TODAY
The cheaters were just in elo hell and using strats to get out of there...
I saw illrai’s aim lock on the widowmaker once
I played against MoonHamster yesterday. Probably not the same since they didn't cheat
15:32 I dont think this moment is enough to tell if illiari is cheating, but still very sus
Jay keeps saying that he doesnt know the rank but the post said they were in diamond lol
As a Diamond 5 player, I estimate the Ilari guy to be Silver 5 at best
It spins because his movement of the mouse is moving his aim away and the aimbot is moving it back
Feel like illari had projectile aimbot but were so dumb that they still used a hs hero
The soldier was use HS only aimhacks. Thats why didnt look like cheating on the ball, bc hamster has no head in rolling form
I see your vids a lot, how big is the cheating problem in OW2? I feel like it's getting worse, but I just can't tell. Is it smurfing? Are people really just cheating their ass off? I get people with over 80% accuracy in my gold lobby, while I sit around 75%.
He said rank is diamond 5
Iam really sorry for that Mercy 😢
Diamond cheaters players playing like bronze 5 players , that's how overwatch is going
This is why anyone who tries to flex their rank on this game is a moron, its basically meaningless lol
the cheaters have less braincells than they got skill
yeh.. we lost against these people and i thought they were hacking.. but honeslty wasn't sure.. very frustrating to see we were right..
Why are their names different from the scoreboard in the first minute
It’s the streamer names, they censor the names and replace them with just random names from a list (usually just ow references) they change throughout watching replay ect. so it’s better for streamers to play (although a lot of people use them esp cheaters just to censor their names)
@@perf1de37 ohhh! Thanks
I'm pretty sure it's written the rank on the description he mentioned
Diamond....
Illaris gameplay made me so mar
Illari was playing on a trackpad ain't no way a real mouse produces aim that unstable
I dont even have 4 friends that play overwatch lmao
Anticheat still on vacation thats crazy it been on vacation longer than Ive been out
They “ban in waves”
@@bleachigo990 When, every two years?
@@GummyDinosaursify dunno. But obviously it’s not soon enough.
I played against all of those guys last night
i think Jay is starting to have memory loss, at start they said they were 5 stacking whit diamond friends.
Where does the 30% of top 500 players are cheaters stat come from?
i think the magar spins his cross hair when shooting the ball
coz the ball headshot hit box moves when he about the pile drive n spin
so the hacker lock also spins along ... its so funny
i feel they all should be ban for association w cheater
no way they are diamond n play like a brand new player ... dont know ablities position or even the MAP to where the enemies are coming from
i mean there is arrow on the floor
good morning buddy
Blizzard should just ban the guy that in his discord 😂😂😂
VVS the Illari looks like they were playing on a trackball. I think they're still new to using a trackball and that's why they're aim was so bad.
Hold up! I play gold support/tank and I've had 2spicy4u and moonhamster in my game! WTH? Imposters? I think I also saw moist too!
Those are streamer mode names
Isnt Connereatspants Krusher99?
i think that illari was cheating but that looks like projectile cheat on hitscan
All of those names are streamer mode names...Almost like Blizzard wants to enable cheaters so it's hard to find them...
Am I tripping or did Flats also watch this match?
Edit: He did. "I Spectated ANOTHER 5 Stack Of Cheaters In Overwatch 2" same match.
These guys are so bad that some of them can't even tell if they use a hack or not.
2spicy4u is kenzos name😭
That’s a streamer mode name 😭😭😭
The illari is def cheating but they're using hitscan cheats on a projectile character
но выстрел иллари hitscan
Pretty sure illari is a hitscan char too lol
It is very clearly a 5 stack of cheaters Gary was really obvious cause hes clearly new and dosent know the map, so he sees the enemy team through the wall and wants to get to them, but dosent understand how to. VVS is cheating as well you are telling me this guy cant aim for shit w/ his heals and has the playstyle of a newborn and can still perfectly track this widows head after not knowing her obvious position, nah (10:50).
You know what ALL of these cheater videos really prove... That all those "if I were/they were hacking why am I/they dying/losing so much" arguments are just crap arguments.
Diamond 5. It does tell you
looks like illiari is 100% wallhacking. but not aimlocking. pretty sure they have a sens waaaay to high
Bro I got in your game man Lucio named flame drake on the map esprenca your very good
Didn’t the guy say it was Diamond
Boosted or not, the fact that this Illari is Diamond elo when my 8 year old mmr fucked account is stuck in elo hell in silver-gold actually pisses me off... I'm not good at the game, but I'm sure as hell not THAT bad.
The Illari is 10000% cheating. The person has their DPI up to 14 billion and in game sens is maxxed out. Breathing on their mouse sends the crosshair flying, and locks onto people a few times. The one with shooting Widow thru the wall should be blatant to you.
Also, Gary is staring at people thru walls before the aimlock