In my opinion, Cleo gave WAYYYY too much grace to Ice despite the clear signs that Ice was not fooling with her like that. That's my only real gripe with Cleo.
I don’t even have grip with her for that. As human beings we tend to give grace to those we genuinely love and want the relationship to have longevity.
I think Cleo’s mind was you’re tryna do a PR run with me you’re tryna better your brand using me then yes ima think about me too. I think at some point they both clocked out of the friendship, but Ice Spice clocked out first cause she never cared. Spice had her fucked up but Cleo definitely played her cards right if she didn’t we wouldn’t be talking about her rn. I hope she drops a song or does something big amidst all this hype, she deserves it.
@@sagitariaus1989 the bar is in hell for men. not for all women but for a lot. I find a lot of women actually hold their friends to a higher standards than their boyfriends/husbands
Right! Even if she made them pay for themselves. She should have been courteous enough to let them know everyone was going to eat and let them decided if they wanted to go.
As a dark skin woman the moment i sense I'm being put into the sidekick, mammy character, sassy character, npc, or the relationship becomes one-sided. I call it out and i peace out because i don't have to be disrespected and time wasted.
@user-iy1wh1cj7x basically a one-sided friendship where you're seen as comical relief, voice of wisdom, and you're only there for them. They don't reach out or ask about/not interested your life like you have no depth besides to cater to them and their needs.
Ice never respected Cleo as an artist or a friend. She only saw her as an accessory. An entourage piece. And when Cleo started having motion with her music and the Impact NYC, she started being envious.
Moral of the story: don’t allow anyone to treat you like an afterthought. Since she was invited to go on tour the day before that should’ve been red flag number one. That right there was the first sign of disrespect imo
This is exactly what I said! I would have used discernment and self care to decline the offer 😐 if she really wants me with her she will invite me properly
@@tealepatterson7601 exactly! Even if I had nothing planned I would’ve declined off the simple fact that you don’t respect my time enough to give me enough time to plan and prepare. There’s no way I would just run to be on tour with you in hopes that you will take care of me the whole way. I hope this was a lesson well learned for Cleo.
Anyone that goes out of their way to embarrass you or make you uncomfortable *hates* you. Ice Spice disgusts me. Then tried to gaslight in her live smh. Literally treated Cleotrapa like trash 🤦🏽♀️.
And Cleo stayed on tour with a girl she said she knew was fake day one… they the same person and Cleo mad she didn’t come out on top because she played herself by going on a tour she had 0 itinerary for 🤦🏼♀️
Notice how Ice chose to address the minor details in the end, instead of how her “friend” felt? I’m glad Cleo finally is free of this girl! Every dog has its day! Also inviting ANYONE ANYWHERE, unfamiliar to them, short notice and not accommodating them is nasty behavior.
Exactly what I peeped, she gave her the chance to address every point in her long text messages and all she gets is one liners with “u” beginning every sentence. I would have crashed out
I had an ex friend invite me camping out of town the evening before. When I said I don’t have the funds, I didn’t plan for it, I can’t go, she begged me and said she “got me”. As soon as we got there, her male friend paid for him and her to enter the park. Then they both sat there quiet and angry that I couldn’t afford it, making me uncomfortable. I didn’t expect him to pay for me I don’t know him. But she said she “got me”, really just brought me there to humiliate me. Pulled the same thing on me for lunch at McDonalds. Mind you I have paid for meals for this friend and never made them feel bad, never made them feel uncomfortable or humiliated. Yet I recieved lots of eye rolls, anger and silence for not paying the equivalence of like 20 bucks. The entire camping trip I avoided them and spent most of my time alone. After the trip, I texted her and let her know bringing me under false context of “I got you” - just to be rude, and cruel doesn’t work for me. She read and ignored the text, and days later messaged me about something random trying to change the topic. She was trying to casually get away with treating me like crap. A friend I bought food for, a friend I gave hundreds to as a gift, a friend I made art and hand made birthday gifts, a friend I was ALWAYS there for, thought it was okay to treat me like she hated me. And it wasn’t the first time she pulled this shady behaviour on me but I forgave it previously. I literally never spoke to her again.
I believe Cleo! Growing up in NYC and observing how non-black women and lighter tones women behavior were towards dark skin women made me stay away from them my entire life. I’m so happy that I did- because the stories of how they treat dark skin women is disgusting! I don’t trust them at all.
I agree, I have personal stories too with lightskin/mixed frenemies however lightskined/mixed women also experienced those horrible friendships dynamics with darkskin women. I feel both sides need to take accountability but at the end of the day, there will always be mean girls regardless of colors, but within the black community + colorism, woof ruthless. I tend to avoid them in general, unless i can see through their characters that they’re “okay” or “safe” to interact with. Yup, that’s how bad it is, lol.
@@Lonelylovelywestindian Exactly. I’m not invalidating darkskin struggles, I’ve seen it and experienced it to know it’s real and should be heard…but avoiding an entire skin tone based on some bad experiences is strange? Maybe the correct verbiage she be that you test them to Make sure they aren’t weird. We all have bad experiences with people, but that doesn’t make you avoid the entire population lmaooo. If you have those preconceived notions about a skin tone, then you’ll start behaving weirdly towards them & become the perpetrator. I’ve seen darkskin girls bully lighter skin girls and vice versa. I think the community as a whole needs some healing, cause it’s everyone
This is sad. Can’t see myself being a woman of God, a woman at all or human being for that matter and choosing to post negativity like this for the sake of internet validation. When instead, healing first from within and doing some soul searching to find peace could be so much more fulfilling. Can’t imagine my great-grandmother, grandmother, mother..all still living by grace and all about 4 shades browner than I am, feeling this way about me and even worse, having the courage to say it. Frightening to imagine that they would feel this way about my daughter, their granddaughter who is just a child and about 3 shades lighter than they are or my daughter feeling this way about me. Distrusting and resenting me because the woman she carried and birthed came out a few shades too different..and the grandchild she carried as she carried me. So similar to how other races encounter a negative experience with one type of person and after that they racially profile and condemn us all. Further shows that what is actually “disgusting” is the amount of damage done so long ago is still effectively doing damage to a beautiful and dynamic people. Profound Prayin for your healing and healing toward this type of thought, energy, and “miss”understanding. I hope that this choice to harbor resentment, generalization and self-entitled judgment (because what gives anyone the superior right to judge another?? I know God didn’t) doesn’t continue to spread in a time where love and compassion is needed more than anything. If we can’t see one another as God’s Ppl, then maybe all of us just ain’t God’s Ppl.
Truee😂 Even as someone from West Africa, Ghana to be precise! I noticed how light skins treat their dark skin friends feeling all superior to them. I went to a boarding school and there was this group of girls about 5 in number all light skins purposely hanging out with themselves because they were light skinned😂 They used to treat the other people who they interacted with that were dark really badly, I felt bad for them cause they would keep going back to them too😂 All the light skinned girls I had like two encounters with were really mean and thought of themselves as Superior. Most of my friends are either dark chocolate or milk chocolate skinned like myself. They’re really nice, helpful and genuine friends. The light skins from what I noticed from any interactions had some nasty attitude, I keep them as acquaintances only and know my true friends. They ain’t friend material, they only friend material to equally lighter girls like themselves lol
This what I’m talking about people who are going through loser and down trodden things are automatically gonna side with this girl without hearing both sides of the story
@@Pumpsin525 that’s mean to come on here and call me a loser 😂😂 but I heard ice spices side. Ice spice confirmed everything this girl said and didn’t really say anything else. So yeaaaa I’m on Cleo’s side. Ice is a weirdo Alfonso.
Sounds like there wasn’t a contract in place. No agents involved. Just her trusting word of mouth from an artist which is really bad business. On top of that, this whole relationship it’s clear she was just being used to help reach the Black female demographic. Kudos to her for realizing it.
So ice invited her then said "aight you can do everything else." It's like inviting someone to your house for dinner, then they get there and you tell that person to start cooking.
Nobody in the industry is real , Cleo is to loyal and genuine and needs to understand that the industry is fake. Ice is using Cleo for that “black friend “.
@@shivaladivaofficialShe is a half nigerian that has to constantly remind ppl that she’s half nigerian…she uses her black friends to “cosign her blackness” and it’s weird that she can’t keep a friend 🤷🏾♀️
@@Pink_pr1ncessBut the “black” community adopts them as black because they are black adjacent in terms of their borough. People don’t know that The Bronx, NYC is full of non African hispanic people who are socialized with poor black people.
@@FUEGOSTARR You put it perfectly. I’m from The Bronx, so I know this from experience. Thankfully, I’ve been calling this shit out online and in real life. We as a community gotta do better👏🏾!
@@BooniesIt’s only because she’s non black. If she was black she would’ve been cancelled a long time ago. (For y’all wondering why I’m saying non black it is because Cleo herself said Ice’s dad isn’t Nigerian or Black!)
Im confused how Cleo feel entitled to your staff but at the very beginning before the tour started she asked what does she have to pay for and you said she good she with you ?…..
Like shouldn’t you be upfront about what they need to contribute and pay for if you don’t want them to use your things? Or if they need to cover the cost of using your things? And it’s not like Cleo wasn’t open to having that conversation, especially since it is her first tour. Frankly Ice’s team should have sent over the logistics/ itinerary. Nah, these people move in a nasty way so they can exploit people. That’s the truth. Because when I want to let people join in with me on something, I make it clear what they need to contribute! And folks do the same the other way around!
Asked this girl to come out on tour just for her to live like she's homeless. Can't even get this girl a place to sleep and some food?? And you're not even paying her??? That's beyond foul!
Cleo gave this breakdown so flippin well, it was like I was watching a movie. She will go far, so descriptive and well detailed, love it. Please write a book or something, I want it
I’m sure she’s seen ice’s not so bright side before but she stuck around because the attitude wasn’t towards her. Stop being friends with mean girls then get mad when they mean to you
This is a fair point! We never want to think we’re exception to the rule. How someone treats others should always be rule of thumb for how they could potentially do us. Trust the signs. They are ALWAYS THERE. 👁️
This happened to me so many times in HS. I wasn’t as well off so mean spirited pple would show it to me first but my “frds” would still be cool with them until they turned that shit on them. It taught me a lot a/b pple and so called frds.
@@tikifreaky5204 then there would be a budget to accommodate staff artist etc which she mentioned she wasn't apart of lol who gets invited to be on tour to work for free and not be taken care of lol I get the dramatics to make ice look bad which loses validity in people and cleos statement but nonetheless its somethin to take note of the way ice handles business & relationships lol
@@priscahermene9107a tour is business, there is a budget for everything. Yes it’s Ice Spice fault for not communicating that but that is what management is for. If Cleo was starving she should have told her management.
My 2¢… First off, Ice and Cleo were never genuine friends. Maybe in the beginning Ice’s intentions were good but after gaining some traction I think she realized how beneficial it would be for her image to be “besties” with a pretty, LIT, Nigerian girl like Cleo. Ice definitely USED Cleo for CLOUT. Point blank. If you from New York you definitely seen CLEO BEFORE AN ICE SPICE. Now… ICE and her TEAM invited CLEO on tour to save face after the situation with STORMI exposing how she really feels about Cleo. They invited her last minute so that she WOULDN’T come or so that even if she DID come she wouldn’t be prepared and on her A Game! (No special outfits, no rehearsing, no promo). Hence why ICE told her “everything would be covered don’t worry, you’ll be with me”. They didn’t WANT Cleo to get a contract drawn up with her management or get a budget established. Once Cleo decided to come, I feel like Ice and her team were like ok now people can see we’re still cool, but like I said before Ice never was her GENUINE FRIEND. That’s why she ALLOWED her security to treat Cleo that way. LIKE CLEO SAIDDDD- Ice wasn’t expecting her to check that shit so quick! Had Cleo NOT addressed it, Ice would’ve been cool with her on camera but would’ve continued with the passive aggressive behavior. Cleo being so vocal definitely pissed Ice off and set the precedent for how she would treat her for the rest of the tour. Ice NEVER wanted to share her stage with Cleo!! She wanted to USE Cleo like the token black bestie. She never wanted people to see how talented her bestie was! She did all of this to SAVE FACE. Even before the Stormi shit, Ice ONLY tweeted Cleo’s lyrics when she was beefing with someone (I cant remember rn who that was whether it was Cardio, Latto but yea). She was just never a true friend and she’s clearly not even a DECENT human being. How tf you know yall in the middle of nowhere and didn’t invite one of the opening acts (your supposed friend) to dinner?! That’s disgusting.
cleotrapa seems so level headed and understanding and forgiving and patient , i really love that abt her bc im the same way. this whole video gave me PTSD bc i had a selfish friend and it’s crazy how people can rlly treat u that way and not know it
A lot of us dark skin Black women told her "her friend" was jealous of her. Ice Slice just like many mixed women become friends with dark skin women because they think they're better than them
@@thecure3982do you see Cleo? Do you see her personality? Do you see her aura ? Like these things can’t be duplicated 😂 yeah Ice spice light skin and pretty to ya’ll maybe but that’s literally it😂😂 like Cleo said SHES BORING
It’s so sad how dark skin women are treated… like damn is there anybody… literally ANYBODY on your side??? Instead of using you, betraying you and faking around you!
Yes we have many people on our side! I don’t like this rhetoric at all. The “literally ANYBODY on your side?” Is crazy. The your implies you’re not one of us? So calm all the way down. We will always survive.
@@678fireplace People tend to do that because they genuinely feel like they're different and it wouldn't happen to them. I know this because I was that person 😔
@@iameloho718 awwww I hope she’s your twin!!! You have such gorgeous features and personality, I know she’ll be the apple of your eye🥹 how precious. Motherhood is always gift no matter how the world tries to portray it.
I’m glad she made this video. These people need to be exposed for what they are. Anybody who doesn’t care how someone eats when they’re with them is not to be trusted or to be talked to. Leave them alone. AND put her tote bag out side the room! Smh
Ice spice definitely reminds me of someone I just cut off recently 🤣🤣🤣 Cleo will prosper away from that energy! Ice spice is very much not as hot as she thinks she is!
Yes cause those lyrics she wrote are on repeat 😂😂 I honestly would have left that first time security didn’t pick up my bags idc I would have went home.
I’m just gonna leave this here…I grew up in the same town ice spice went to high school at, many of my close friends went to shhs in Yonkers and they all say the same thing about her. In hs she was one of those fast,catty, ghetto, mean girl’s that people didn’t like. When those mean girls grow up and get money they start feeling like they’re untouchable.
right people saying she like this bc she sold her soul, like damn ik yall know like 5 light skin domincan girls that act exactly like that and would be triple down on it if they got some money too 💀 it’s that simple
Cleo got her dark skin friend wake-up call and introduction to industry colorism. I couldn’t even make it through her story time, because she refuses to admit that colorism played a huge part in how she was treated. She’s not being completely accountable and refuses to admit that she likes being the “token dark skin girl” amongst racially ambiguous women. If she didn’t, she wouldn’t have allowed herself to be treated like this for so long after being warned by her fans and other black women. It’s the same story over and over again with these girls. 🙄
I do think she's being obtuse but, I think it's hard to come to the conclusion that a lot of people in this world are against you... Sometimes that's the case, especially for a beautiful dark skin woman.
For me once a non-black woman, artist, disrespects a black woman, artist/ black women period can no longer support them. It’s quiet for ice spice for me.
If your friendship is based off of not knowing enough about someone & they constantly have to make something up to you for disrespecting you that’s not your damn friend. Leaving your friends hungry or struggling is diabolical.
Ice Spice definitely BEEN giving mean girl vibes. Also her wanting Cleo to come on tour with her but not allowing anyone from her own TEAM to come with her is HUGE red glad.
I think Cleo was probably invited on tour to crash out. They probably wanted publicity and were hopping Cleo would fight, probably get arrested and create drama around the tour. "Rapper jealously attacking Ice Spice." If were friends you would know my temperament. I think the team wanted to play up the angry dark skin girl and the light bright trying to "give an opportunity".
They wanted to paint the narrative ice spice is unproblematic and the people that were her friends fell out with her because they are jealous their music careers didn’t take off like hers she’s very calculated befriending people that are musical artists as well to make it believable she’s a Capricorn I know those types in business
Yea they wanted a brawl, at the very least for her to curse them out and leave the tour and probably turn her fans against her. She gave them nothing lmao. Idk who or what made Paprika Spice famous but I've never been interested. Not enough fire for me, Cleo got bars tho and she actually has the social media following and engagement. Idk what I'm looking at with Cinnamon Spice, and they keep pushing her in front of our faces. Keep the orphan Anne wigs and dry twerk, so gimmicky.
The same ice spice that was clearly agitated during prayer with Tylil?yeah I’m not surprised at all her soul has been sold to the highest bidder.Of course she’s a fake friend .
@@jk5238 Lol… my thoughts exactly because I have a butterfly tattoo… and I can promise it’s not because I sold my soul 🤣 it simply means new beginnings… the whole caterpillar to butterfly concept.
@@TuBella14 right I got one too, they’re just really pretty and butterflies have always brought good things to me so idk where the mind control thing is coming from💀
that is so nasty and disrespectful to say the show starts at 8/9 and have your opener start at 7-7:30. i’ve never gone to a concert that had openers and they didn’t correlate the start time with the first opener. most recently when i saw jhene, everyone knew what time all the performers were starting.
The crazy part is that she’s been in our face with with the same energy ice spice literally has a song called bully freestyle. The only reason why I didn’t believe baby was because she seemed very demonic.
Cleo gave so much grace. You can never treat someone so bad that you have respect for and genuinely fuck with. You can’t watch them struggle like that. You can’t sit down to eat by yourself knowing your friend is hungry too. It will be your natural instinct to help make sure they are good. Cleo handled it well by finishing what she came there to do ✅. May she truly be blessed for her grind and dedication 🙏🏾
I believe every word. Many women who "have it all" are actually very covert with their humiliation tactics towards other women. Their paranoia of everyone being supposedly so jealous makes them gate keep and act just as oppressive as rich men. It's sad this girl had to go through all of that.
You really don't think successful people have tons of jealous and manipulative people around them? It's a lose-lose for them. Even if you are good to people. it's never enough. And they will turn on you eventually anyways.
@@WTFBUTWHY I 100 percent believe successful people can have jealous people around. Yes, two things can be true. Regarding the context of this situation I believe Cleo was seen as a joke and only allowed to be around as long as she didn't shine too bright.
This is facts and I've been saying this for years, I've been a victim of this from multiple women 😢 they have everything going for themselves but still have hate in their hearts.
@@kimmyw010 I know what you're talking about. They have no reason to be sour, yet always have to randomly humiliate you for NO REASON. I believe they do that to keep certain women from feeling just as empowered as do. It's nasty, and I'm sorry you experienced this. As you can see I, too, am a dark skinned woman. You aren't alone. Everyone loves us when we are supporting their come up but the minute we need any hint of support everything changes for the worst. Keep your head up Kimmy. You deserve better.
3:34 as a real fan, I was PISSED when she popped out with Ice Spice. I know she's from NY, but shorty deserved to be around matched talent (Glo, Flo, JT, Young MA, real rappers!)
This is literally why I keep to myself. Some folks don’t deserve friends and ruin the experience for the rest of us. Cleo deserves actual friends that will give the same love and energy that she gives. We all do (all meaning the REAL ones). Can we come up with a code word or something? Because we need to be able to easily find each other in this sea of fakeass assholes. 😢❤
Light skinned girls swear they’re not bullies lol Ice Spice was using Cleo as a prop and thought she had an underling (And before anyone starts, don’t. You don’t see enough light skinned women speaking out against colorism against dark skinned women because they benefit it and they perpetuate it as well)
@@karishajohnson6537 it’s not colorism. Ice isn’t cool with multiple Lightskin women like Latto & Nicki now. She’s had some back & forth with the city girls. They’re just mean girls regardless of color.
@@WarmSunMgm Yes they’re mean girls but colorism/color does play a part as well imo. Considering how Ice Spice propped Cleo beside her and just expected Cleo, who barely knows her, to validate for her Blackness is an indicator in my opinion.
@@karishajohnson6537 we haven’t heard ice spices side but i can see why she would say that. I had a roommate who literally did the same thing when someone asked her what i was. She’s met my family but acted like i wasn’t black lol. She even told someone i have a white mom when i don’t. A lot of Darkskin people gotta stop acting like they don’t throw us in and out of blackness.
stop it, u tryna further more seperate the black community, yes there is a llot of light skin girls who bully darker girls but you not finna sit here and just say us as a whole just dont stick up for darkskin girls based of ice actions. stop ts
Ice can’t make any points but say “that’s crazy bro” I teared up a bit because I know how it feels to be around fake people and be the butt of a joke. So I’m happy Cleo was able to make the best out of a shitty situation. She was definitely being protected 🙏🏽
Set boundaries stop staying in situations you're not welcome in... stop entertaining people who don't value you.... this goes beyond not being silenced because you can still remove yourself with poise without the noise. Put yourself first if your not comfortable in a situations no matter the situation leave....
Ice called her entitled but that’s just crazy. Like if someone comes on tour with you and YOU invite them then why would you expect them to have everything they need. Especially if you didn’t tell them. Like……that’s your fault ice wow!
Stop blaming Cleo for being taken advantage of, blame ice spice for intentionally using her. There are some people in this world who try to see the good in people. But it was clearly a learning point for her.
I'm sorry, I'm ashy AF as a black woman!!! Then proceeds to lick herself 😭 I literally paused the vid n busted out laughingggg!!! 😂😂 What a real n relatable moment bc she was bout to cry. She so genuine Cleo is the one and only
@@CrystalAcheing me too! and idk if u saw but baby storme even admitted on tiktok that she was in fact manic and that’s why she went on that whole rant, clearly she was telling a lot of the truth tho
I respect the hell out of Cleo’s patience cause I’d have clocked out wayyyyyy earlier. Her boldness is inspiring. Ice will reap what she sowed eventually
She was gaslighted at every turn. I'm so happy to be old 😂😂😂😂. This baby thought it was ok to go on a tour unprepared. No friend would only give you only one day notice for a national tour.
Didn’t months ago ice so called best friend foretold all of this. She said how nasty ice was and how she hated Cleo. Can’t say she wasn’t warned because it was everywhere I damn sure don’t follow none of them.
Yeah Baby Storme. Nobody wanted to listen cuz apparently she crashes out like Azalea Banks 🤷🏾♀️ ; and only became Spices friend out of revenge for being bullied by her in high school. So people were confused about what was true. Personally I believe the girl.
There’s quite a bit of them, unfortunately. I’ve dealt with it. They pretend to be girls girls to get your guard down early and earn their fake trust. It’s scary ah.
Ice spice always gave that friend that's good for pictures and vibes only. She wouldn't be the friend that you vent to or talk about in depth issues
Superficial to the core
@brexxy21 >>>>>>>
She’s not a friend period
I’ve had “friends” like her. Cut tf off. They can’t even fake being nice or real.
i had a friend group like that and we fell out bc they were being fake. ppl like that definitely aren’t long term friends
Let’s support Cleotrapa, she deserves the love, money, and fame
No fr! I’ve been supporting her since the beginning 🤎
Yes I love cleo she's so talented ❤
I agree let’s support our girl ❤
yesss
Exactly and if we're being real she was famous before ice spice iykyk
ice spice not even supposed to be famous if were keeping it real
Well she is tf 😂😂😂 hating ain’t going make u famous.
I’m saying !!
@@guwop93 being dense won't get you there either lmao
@@guwop93 give your mother her phone back!
fuck NO 😂
"You though I was feeling you" is a testament to being a fake.
This. We should’ve seen this coming
Oh shit lol
Comment needs to be pinned down 📌
I love how GenZ has normalized exposing people's nonsense.
Lmaooo
Nah I'm sayin ice spice really should have never been a celebrity tbh every song after "munch" has no legs
In my opinion, Cleo gave WAYYYY too much grace to Ice despite the clear signs that Ice was not fooling with her like that. That's my only real gripe with Cleo.
Like it’s obvious that Ice does not like her! Idk why DS women keep befriending Ice, like what are they not getting?
I don’t even have grip with her for that. As human beings we tend to give grace to those we genuinely love and want the relationship to have longevity.
@@Divi333. and that's the problem. As women, we have to have the same standards for our "friends" that we have for these men.
I think Cleo’s mind was you’re tryna do a PR run with me you’re tryna better your brand using me then yes ima think about me too. I think at some point they both clocked out of the friendship, but Ice Spice clocked out first cause she never cared. Spice had her fucked up but Cleo definitely played her cards right if she didn’t we wouldn’t be talking about her rn.
I hope she drops a song or does something big amidst all this hype, she deserves it.
@@sagitariaus1989 the bar is in hell for men. not for all women but for a lot. I find a lot of women actually hold their friends to a higher standards than their boyfriends/husbands
Also… let’s not act like her being dark skin wasn’t a factor in how she was being treated. It’s always a factor.
I mean even Latto and ice spice are beefing. I don’t think skin tone is a factor.
Always
@@WarmSunMgmIt is and what you think isn’t facts.
Facts !!
@@SideEyeee_what you think isn’t fact either 🤷♀️
Not inviting them to eat is absolutely absurd. That’s badmind asf
Right! Even if she made them pay for themselves. She should have been courteous enough to let them know everyone was going to eat and let them decided if they wanted to go.
I said that! Food is not okay to deprive people from! I was angry
my thoughts exactly. its one thing to be angry and upset at someone. but to make it so that they have no FOOD to eat? you’re just pure evil atp
If NOTHING else spells vindication and spite that DOES
@@melaninandaura9713in spite* not "and spite" 🙄
As a dark skin woman the moment i sense I'm being put into the sidekick, mammy character, sassy character, npc, or the relationship becomes one-sided. I call it out and i peace out because i don't have to be disrespected and time wasted.
oooo i like this mindset imma start using it
Exactly, and Keep realizing it's due to their jealousy. That's always been the reason behind colorism AND racism.
Yup, jealousy is a horrible disease
what is a mammy character btw so i know to avoid it
@user-iy1wh1cj7x basically a one-sided friendship where you're seen as comical relief, voice of wisdom, and you're only there for them. They don't reach out or ask about/not interested your life like you have no depth besides to cater to them and their needs.
Ice never respected Cleo as an artist or a friend. She only saw her as an accessory. An entourage piece. And when Cleo started having motion with her music and the Impact NYC, she started being envious.
Moral of the story: don’t allow anyone to treat you like an afterthought. Since she was invited to go on tour the day before that should’ve been red flag number one. That right there was the first sign of disrespect imo
This is exactly what I said! I would have used discernment and self care to decline the offer 😐 if she really wants me with her she will invite me properly
@@roudiamondgh92 THANK YOU! I'm glad someone sees it.
Facts!
@@tealepatterson7601 exactly! Even if I had nothing planned I would’ve declined off the simple fact that you don’t respect my time enough to give me enough time to plan and prepare. There’s no way I would just run to be on tour with you in hopes that you will take care of me the whole way. I hope this was a lesson well learned for Cleo.
Good point actually
The fact that she cried tells me ice clearly crossed her terribly😢
She felt used .. that’s the worst feeling ever especially when it involves your art !!
@@LAYYDADOLL this! You are absolutely right!
right. hearing/seeing cleo this way is heartbreaking, honestly.
@@Gratitude.1st yes I really was almost bought to tears . You can tell she holding back so much !
Fr I never seen Cleo cry. I’m so upset for her, never want a darkskin sis feeling this way.
Anyone that goes out of their way to embarrass you or make you uncomfortable *hates* you. Ice Spice disgusts me. Then tried to gaslight in her live smh. Literally treated Cleotrapa like trash 🤦🏽♀️.
😂😂
And Cleo stayed on tour with a girl she said she knew was fake day one… they the same person and Cleo mad she didn’t come out on top because she played herself by going on a tour she had 0 itinerary for 🤦🏼♀️
same here, I’m actually baffled. I felt sick by the end of this AND the messages? absolutely sickening and revolting.
Notice how Ice chose to address the minor details in the end, instead of how her “friend” felt? I’m glad Cleo finally is free of this girl! Every dog has its day!
Also inviting ANYONE ANYWHERE, unfamiliar to them, short notice and not accommodating them is nasty behavior.
Exactly what I peeped, she gave her the chance to address every point in her long text messages and all she gets is one liners with “u” beginning every sentence. I would have crashed out
I had an ex friend invite me camping out of town the evening before. When I said I don’t have the funds, I didn’t plan for it, I can’t go, she begged me and said she “got me”.
As soon as we got there, her male friend paid for him and her to enter the park.
Then they both sat there quiet and angry that I couldn’t afford it, making me uncomfortable. I didn’t expect him to pay for me I don’t know him.
But she said she “got me”, really just brought me there to humiliate me.
Pulled the same thing on me for lunch at McDonalds.
Mind you I have paid for meals for this friend and never made them feel bad, never made them feel uncomfortable or humiliated.
Yet I recieved lots of eye rolls, anger and silence for not paying the equivalence of like 20 bucks.
The entire camping trip I avoided them and spent most of my time alone.
After the trip, I texted her and let her know bringing me under false context of “I got you” - just to be rude, and cruel doesn’t work for me.
She read and ignored the text, and days later messaged me about something random trying to change the topic. She was trying to casually get away with treating me like crap.
A friend I bought food for, a friend I gave hundreds to as a gift, a friend I made art and hand made birthday gifts, a friend I was ALWAYS there for, thought it was okay to treat me like she hated me. And it wasn’t the first time she pulled this shady behaviour on me but I forgave it previously.
I literally never spoke to her again.
I believe Cleo! Growing up in NYC and observing how non-black women and lighter tones women behavior were towards dark skin women made me stay away from them my entire life. I’m so happy that I did- because the stories of how they treat dark skin women is disgusting! I don’t trust them at all.
The truth
I agree, I have personal stories too with lightskin/mixed frenemies however lightskined/mixed women also experienced those horrible friendships dynamics with darkskin women. I feel both sides need to take accountability but at the end of the day, there will always be mean girls regardless of colors, but within the black community + colorism, woof ruthless. I tend to avoid them in general, unless i can see through their characters that they’re “okay” or “safe” to interact with. Yup, that’s how bad it is, lol.
@@Lonelylovelywestindian Exactly. I’m not invalidating darkskin struggles, I’ve seen it and experienced it to know it’s real and should be heard…but avoiding an entire skin tone based on some bad experiences is strange? Maybe the correct verbiage she be that you test them to Make sure they aren’t weird. We all have bad experiences with people, but that doesn’t make you avoid the entire population lmaooo. If you have those preconceived notions about a skin tone, then you’ll start behaving weirdly towards them & become the perpetrator. I’ve seen darkskin girls bully lighter skin girls and vice versa. I think the community as a whole needs some healing, cause it’s everyone
This is sad. Can’t see myself being a woman of God, a woman at all or human being for that matter and choosing to post negativity like this for the sake of internet validation. When instead, healing first from within and doing some soul searching to find peace could be so much more fulfilling. Can’t imagine my great-grandmother, grandmother, mother..all still living by grace and all about 4 shades browner than I am, feeling this way about me and even worse, having the courage to say it. Frightening to imagine that they would feel this way about my daughter, their granddaughter who is just a child and about 3 shades lighter than they are or my daughter feeling this way about me. Distrusting and resenting me because the woman she carried and birthed came out a few shades too different..and the grandchild she carried as she carried me. So similar to how other races encounter a negative experience with one type of person and after that they racially profile and condemn us all. Further shows that what is actually “disgusting” is the amount of damage done so long ago is still effectively doing damage to a beautiful and dynamic people. Profound
Prayin for your healing and healing toward this type of thought, energy, and “miss”understanding. I hope that this choice to harbor resentment, generalization and self-entitled judgment (because what gives anyone the superior right to judge another?? I know God didn’t) doesn’t continue to spread in a time where love and compassion is needed more than anything. If we can’t see one another as God’s Ppl, then maybe all of us just ain’t God’s Ppl.
Truee😂
Even as someone from West Africa, Ghana to be precise!
I noticed how light skins treat their dark skin friends feeling all superior to them. I went to a boarding school and there was this group of girls about 5 in number all light skins purposely hanging out with themselves because they were light skinned😂
They used to treat the other people who they interacted with that were dark really badly, I felt bad for them cause they would keep going back to them too😂
All the light skinned girls I had like two encounters with were really mean and thought of themselves as Superior. Most of my friends are either dark chocolate or milk chocolate skinned like myself. They’re really nice, helpful and genuine friends. The light skins from what I noticed from any interactions had some nasty attitude, I keep them as acquaintances only and know my true friends. They ain’t friend material, they only friend material to equally lighter girls like themselves lol
Ice was so nasty to her friend. As Nicki said there are no friends in the industry
ICE is incapable of being friends with anyone. I'm happy Stormy told us how she got them even as a child before the fame
You quoting Nicki when Nicki is also a mean girl too😂😂
@@tiaraw872 well, it's fitting, isn't it?
Y'all both wild but it is fitting
@@tiaraw872 Lol! So true.
As a girl who has no friends when I was fed up with the funny stuff and ppl taking advantage of my kindness I wanted to cry watching this.
My tooooo😭🫂🫂💜
You and me both!!! Cleo gave her too much grace. I would have left after the luggage incident.
This what I’m talking about people who are going through loser and down trodden things are automatically gonna side with this girl without hearing both sides of the story
@@Pumpsin525 that’s mean to come on here and call me a loser 😂😂 but I heard ice spices side. Ice spice confirmed everything this girl said and didn’t really say anything else. So yeaaaa I’m on Cleo’s side. Ice is a weirdo Alfonso.
I don't have any friends either...but it's mostly becuase it's hard to find friends in my lane.
Cleo was a token black friend like Baby Storme. Baby Storme was right~
ice knew her own team liked Cleo. Cleo is a personality and a talent. she thought her team would drop her to cater to cleo.
Baby Storme was vindicated lol. So many people were quick to call her a hater
I believe everything she is saying. The story is too detailed.
She’s acting like a victim and you’re falling for it
@@edithandlezi don’t think she is, something was always wrong with ice. Stop defending a bad person.
@@edithandlez 3 sides to every story. And this don’t seem like the bad side.
@@edithandlezthe dj came out and confirmed everything???
Sounds like there wasn’t a contract in place. No agents involved. Just her trusting word of mouth from an artist which is really bad business.
On top of that, this whole relationship it’s clear she was just being used to help reach the Black female demographic.
Kudos to her for realizing it.
So ice invited her then said "aight you can do everything else." It's like inviting someone to your house for dinner, then they get there and you tell that person to start cooking.
And then turn around and ask them why they didn’t bring their own groceries 😂
@user-oe1jp3ob5l then going to ask you to clean up and do the dishes after. an absolute MESS smh 🤦🏾♀️
And getting hell mad when you want to eat the food you had to buy and cook.
Then they got mad when you left their home without a word and havent texted them since 😂
And then after saying you couldn’t taste their food, once you cooked your own food they’re like what we having 🍽
Nobody in the industry is real , Cleo is to loyal and genuine and needs to understand that the industry is fake. Ice is using Cleo for that “black friend “.
I totally agree!
Spice is half Nigerian, but I get what you're saying
@@shivaladivaofficial spice isn’t half Nigerian her dad literally said he was AA she lied he has African Nigerian ancestry
@@shivaladivaofficialShe is a half nigerian that has to constantly remind ppl that she’s half nigerian…she uses her black friends to “cosign her blackness” and it’s weird that she can’t keep a friend 🤷🏾♀️
@@shivaladivaofficialwhat is half nigerian ? Its a nationality so anybody can be Nigerian.
As a black Dominican, the colorism and shade from light/white Dominicans is wicked!! I'm disgusted with Ices behavior, but I'm not even surprised
Classic "I NO BLACK" behavior
@@nwatson2773 Not all Dominicans are black though. Cardi B and Ice Spice are prime examples
@@Pink_pr1ncessBut the “black” community adopts them as black because they are black adjacent in terms of their borough. People don’t know that The Bronx, NYC is full of non African hispanic people who are socialized with poor black people.
@@FUEGOSTARR yeah. I wish our community practiced gatekeeping more, these other races do it but for some weird reason we don’t?
@@FUEGOSTARR You put it perfectly. I’m from The Bronx, so I know this from experience. Thankfully, I’ve been calling this shit out online and in real life. We as a community gotta do better👏🏾!
Hearing ice spice trying to defend herself its funny cause she knows what cleotrap said was true
I felt that cry….the feeling of confusion, hurt, disappointment…self doubt, and the constant question of “maybe it’s my fault “
Ice spice is fake , she talked about nicki an got exposed an now cleo smh. Her 5 mins of fame is up
Literally ! I’m so happy Nicki checked her lol
What’s sad is ice spice is still gonna be loved after all her wrongings… like the fans are too deep in love with her
@@laurensimoneeSo glad too!
@@BooniesIt’s only because she’s non black. If she was black she would’ve been cancelled a long time ago. (For y’all wondering why I’m saying non black it is because Cleo herself said Ice’s dad isn’t Nigerian or Black!)
I'm still not sure how she even got 5 minutes in the first place.
Sadly this will be ignored and people will still support her.
She’s losing the support. Hence why her album sales are blah.
It’ll be like a story for a month but people move on unfortunately.
Yes and no. Ice has done way to much in a row and is losing support fast. Poor album sales, drama every month or so, her falling out with Nicki etc.
We ain’t forgot about baby spice. That was embarassing for Ice 😂 and this is worse
nope. people are going bring it up whether she likes it or not, she definitely will have some d rider fans unfortunately
It’s crazy to invite someone to the tour the day before. I would have told her no. I hate when someone treats me like I’m an after thought.
Cleo was making a FOMO move. She wasn’t thinking about the ways this experience would tax her since she’s naive. She’ll cry and learn and move on.
And this is shy I turn down last minute invite,because this is what usually happens.
@@FUEGOSTARRShe’s a young independent artist I’ll give her grace because regardless it’s good exposure. It’s a lesson, she learned.
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Im confused how Cleo feel entitled to your staff but at the very beginning before the tour started she asked what does she have to pay for and you said she good she with you ?…..
the hypocrisy the gaslight smh
Like shouldn’t you be upfront about what they need to contribute and pay for if you don’t want them to use your things? Or if they need to cover the cost of using your things? And it’s not like Cleo wasn’t open to having that conversation, especially since it is her first tour. Frankly Ice’s team should have sent over the logistics/ itinerary. Nah, these people move in a nasty way so they can exploit people. That’s the truth. Because when I want to let people join in with me on something, I make it clear what they need to contribute! And folks do the same the other way around!
@@birdiewolf3497 PREACH
This is literally the best storytime I've ever listened to.
Nah for real I wish people knew how to tell a story like this 😂😂
Let’s not forget ice was also being fake towards Doechii in Doja’s tour. It’s a pattern
Where was this?
@@yunggprince._ that’s wild I’m about to look this up
this omg doja needs to stay away from her from now on
And it's crazy cause doechii is wayyyy more talented than her 😒
She called Doechii a “chosen darkskin” too… just nasty overall
I understand what she’s saying. Why invite me on tour and not make me comfortable. Especially if you’re my friend
It wasn’t the bags Cleo!! She hated you from JUMP. This is sad!
Exactly! The humiliation ritual agenda was set up from time!
We tried to allude to it but we didn't wanna be haters but iykyk
Exactly, it had nothing to do with the bags ice was going to treat her like that regardless, ice clearly was giving envy and spitefulness
Right, thought the same thing.
Asked this girl to come out on tour just for her to live like she's homeless. Can't even get this girl a place to sleep and some food?? And you're not even paying her??? That's beyond foul!
Cleo gave this breakdown so flippin well, it was like I was watching a movie. She will go far, so descriptive and well detailed, love it. Please write a book or something, I want it
Yeah I could picture everything like I was there lol😅😂
I’m sure she’s seen ice’s not so bright side before but she stuck around because the attitude wasn’t towards her. Stop being friends with mean girls then get mad when they mean to you
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Exactly this!
This is a fair point!
We never want to think we’re exception to the rule. How someone treats others should always be rule of thumb for how they could potentially do us.
Trust the signs.
They are ALWAYS THERE. 👁️
Well said
This happened to me so many times in HS. I wasn’t as well off so mean spirited pple would show it to me first but my “frds” would still be cool with them until they turned that shit on them. It taught me a lot a/b pple and so called frds.
You literally told her “don’t worry about nothing you’ll be with me” and was LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE when she came off of A DAYS NOTICE ! YUCK !!!!
Trying to starve your employees is crazy and your friend is even worse
Trying to starve is extreme 😂 Ice wanted her to take care of her own food, that’s not starving Cleo.
@@tikifreaky5204 then there would be a budget to accommodate staff artist etc which she mentioned she wasn't apart of lol who gets invited to be on tour to work for free and not be taken care of lol I get the dramatics to make ice look bad which loses validity in people and cleos statement but nonetheless its somethin to take note of the way ice handles business & relationships lol
@@tikifreaky5204but ice said she wouldn’t need to pay for anything, that’s the problem.
@@tikifreaky5204you still offer people food if you can, that’s the manners I was raised with, but maybe that’s just me. Kindness, ya know?
@@priscahermene9107a tour is business, there is a budget for everything. Yes it’s Ice Spice fault for not communicating that but that is what management is for. If Cleo was starving she should have told her management.
My 2¢… First off, Ice and Cleo were never genuine friends. Maybe in the beginning Ice’s intentions were good but after gaining some traction I think she realized how beneficial it would be for her image to be “besties” with a pretty, LIT, Nigerian girl like Cleo. Ice definitely USED Cleo for CLOUT. Point blank. If you from New York you definitely seen CLEO BEFORE AN ICE SPICE. Now…
ICE and her TEAM invited CLEO on tour to save face after the situation with STORMI exposing how she really feels about Cleo. They invited her last minute so that she WOULDN’T come or so that even if she DID come she wouldn’t be prepared and on her A Game! (No special outfits, no rehearsing, no promo). Hence why ICE told her “everything would be covered don’t worry, you’ll be with me”. They didn’t WANT Cleo to get a contract drawn up with her management or get a budget established. Once Cleo decided to come, I feel like Ice and her team were like ok now people can see we’re still cool, but like I said before Ice never was her GENUINE FRIEND. That’s why she ALLOWED her security to treat Cleo that way. LIKE CLEO SAIDDDD- Ice wasn’t expecting her to check that shit so quick! Had Cleo NOT addressed it, Ice would’ve been cool with her on camera but would’ve continued with the passive aggressive behavior. Cleo being so vocal definitely pissed Ice off and set the precedent for how she would treat her for the rest of the tour. Ice NEVER wanted to share her stage with Cleo!! She wanted to USE Cleo like the token black bestie. She never wanted people to see how talented her bestie was! She did all of this to SAVE FACE. Even before the Stormi shit, Ice ONLY tweeted Cleo’s lyrics when she was beefing with someone (I cant remember rn who that was whether it was Cardio, Latto but yea). She was just never a true friend and she’s clearly not even a DECENT human being. How tf you know yall in the middle of nowhere and didn’t invite one of the opening acts (your supposed friend) to dinner?! That’s disgusting.
Well said!
cleotrapa seems so level headed and understanding and forgiving and patient , i really love that abt her bc im the same way. this whole video gave me PTSD bc i had a selfish friend and it’s crazy how people can rlly treat u that way and not know it
That’s very hurtful that she wasn’t paid. Wow.
Very painful to watch and the fact she didn’t get paid, this is why Paid in “exposure”never worth it.
Ice is backed by a big ass label. I would have said hell no if I wasn’t getting paid to perform. A real friend would have made sure she got something
Used is the word smh
They wouldn’t do that to a business but they’ll do it to a “friend” they’ve took from the hood!!
@@neeciiw7840 she treated her like crap I’m like oh my God!
A lot of us dark skin Black women told her "her friend" was jealous of her. Ice Slice just like many mixed women become friends with dark skin women because they think they're better than them
Wow. Why was she jealous?
@@thecure3982do you see Cleo? Do you see her personality? Do you see her aura ? Like these things can’t be duplicated 😂 yeah Ice spice light skin and pretty to ya’ll maybe but that’s literally it😂😂 like Cleo said SHES BORING
Once you express this *fact* openly, some of those women react by claiming the dark skinned person is jealous. Really, it’s the opposite.
This!!!!
It's a Fact and it's up to us to use our Melanin powers to Rebuke them.
It’s so sad how dark skin women are treated… like damn is there anybody… literally ANYBODY on your side??? Instead of using you, betraying you and faking around you!
Yes we have many people on our side! I don’t like this rhetoric at all. The “literally ANYBODY on your side?” Is crazy. The your implies you’re not one of us? So calm all the way down. We will always survive.
@@678fireplace People tend to do that because they genuinely feel like they're different and it wouldn't happen to them. I know this because I was that person 😔
Yall so annoying, this issue has nothing to do with colorism
God is always there
@@thesinfulyogini2073 girl you’re taking what I said completely wrong…
Couldn’t even give her a damn salad….. disgusting the way they treated her. I wish the best for her and all the success she deserves ❤
Fake friends are entertained by their friends struggles and embarrassment. SMH
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Yess I’m a girl mom 👩🏾🍼💞✨
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@@iameloho718 awwww I hope she’s your twin!!! You have such gorgeous features and personality, I know she’ll be the apple of your eye🥹 how precious. Motherhood is always gift no matter how the world tries to portray it.
She keeps stepping on black women to get to the top. I swear Ice is mad colorist.
Makes sense why Ice loves Drake
@@Lasagnaaa.-.Drake put her on
As black girl who lives in nyc her entire life, roses Latinas here aren't freindly.They tend to be very fake even the black one's.
this is actually insane. ice spice is a certified weirdo.
and she alwayssss been
she's been a weirdo
Why drake likes her
I’m glad she made this video. These people need to be exposed for what they are. Anybody who doesn’t care how someone eats when they’re with them is not to be trusted or to be talked to. Leave them alone. AND put her tote bag out side the room! Smh
in 46:14 she almost exposed herself and said she was soulless smh.
„If anything we both s-… need saving“
That part 🤔
The hair stylist is a girls girl❤
I'm so glad she was there for her.
I said the same thing !
And she probably fired now
@@MsKali05she was
Sometimes, they have dark skin friends around to worship them it's so sad.
Yesss!!
Ice spice definitely reminds me of someone I just cut off recently 🤣🤣🤣 Cleo will prosper away from that energy! Ice spice is very much not as hot as she thinks she is!
Yes cause those lyrics she wrote are on repeat 😂😂 I honestly would have left that first time security didn’t pick up my bags idc I would have went home.
She look sick rn
@@kia213yea but she had promoted herself so ppl will expect her to be there so she just had to complete it
This is the second time this has happened. ICE SPICE IS NOT A GOOD PERSON.
She probably had you around to copy your personality and energy. She seems bland and unoriginal.
I’m just gonna leave this here…I grew up in the same town ice spice went to high school at, many of my close friends went to shhs in Yonkers and they all say the same thing about her. In hs she was one of those fast,catty, ghetto, mean girl’s that people didn’t like. When those mean girls grow up and get money they start feeling like they’re untouchable.
They say once you have money the real you is exemplified
@@thrill102 amplified
right people saying she like this bc she sold her soul, like damn ik yall know like 5 light skin domincan girls that act exactly like that and would be triple down on it if they got some money too 💀 it’s that simple
@@therantingshop7423🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 you wrong but right
Ice is entitled.
Facts she loves to throw out this “ungrateful” title when she’s not even the fart 😒😒😒
And a colorist
& selfish asf
@@IvyMercedes1687 and racist.
@@Rice10120 💯
Cleo got her dark skin friend wake-up call and introduction to industry colorism. I couldn’t even make it through her story time, because she refuses to admit that colorism played a huge part in how she was treated. She’s not being completely accountable and refuses to admit that she likes being the “token dark skin girl” amongst racially ambiguous women. If she didn’t, she wouldn’t have allowed herself to be treated like this for so long after being warned by her fans and other black women.
It’s the same story over and over again with these girls. 🙄
This is the part
💯💯💯💯
CLOCK IT ! 😂
I do think she's being obtuse but, I think it's hard to come to the conclusion that a lot of people in this world are against you... Sometimes that's the case, especially for a beautiful dark skin woman.
She's purposefully avoiding it because she knows that people will say she's playing the race card. She has media training or is just really smart.
For me once a non-black woman, artist, disrespects a black woman, artist/ black women period can no longer support them. It’s quiet for ice spice for me.
If only more were just like you bc ts is sad. Sad as all fucks😪😒
Who cares
@cherimoneeboone7127 you do definitely 😂😂😂
If your friendship is based off of not knowing enough about someone & they constantly have to make something up to you for disrespecting you that’s not your damn friend.
Leaving your friends hungry or struggling is diabolical.
Ice Spice definitely BEEN giving mean girl vibes. Also her wanting Cleo to come on tour with her but not allowing anyone from her own TEAM to come with her is HUGE red glad.
I think Cleo was probably invited on tour to crash out. They probably wanted publicity and were hopping Cleo would fight, probably get arrested and create drama around the tour. "Rapper jealously attacking Ice Spice." If were friends you would know my temperament. I think the team wanted to play up the angry dark skin girl and the light bright trying to "give an opportunity".
Oh damn. I could totally see this being a move to play up drama to publicize the tour. The industry is ruthless as hell man.
They wanted to paint the narrative ice spice is unproblematic and the people that were her friends fell out with her because they are jealous their music careers didn’t take off like hers she’s very calculated befriending people that are musical artists as well to make it believable she’s a Capricorn I know those types in business
Damn I see that 😮
CLOCK IT ⏰⏰⏰⏰⏰⏰ CLOCK IT
Yea they wanted a brawl, at the very least for her to curse them out and leave the tour and probably turn her fans against her. She gave them nothing lmao. Idk who or what made Paprika Spice famous but I've never been interested. Not enough fire for me, Cleo got bars tho and she actually has the social media following and engagement. Idk what I'm looking at with Cinnamon Spice, and they keep pushing her in front of our faces. Keep the orphan Anne wigs and dry twerk, so gimmicky.
The same ice spice that was clearly agitated during prayer with Tylil?yeah I’m not surprised at all her soul has been sold to the highest bidder.Of course she’s a fake friend .
Exactly. Plus she has a butterfly tattoo. She is in mind control, she’s not herself. So for her acting soulless around her “friend” is quite obvious.
@@melteddarkchocolate000sheesh, what’s tea on butterfly tattoos…? 😅😂
@@melteddarkchocolate000butterfly tattoos are so generic and commonly tattooed, I wouldn’t use that to speculate that she “sold her soul.”
@@jk5238 Lol… my thoughts exactly because I have a butterfly tattoo… and I can promise it’s not because I sold my soul 🤣 it simply means new beginnings… the whole caterpillar to butterfly concept.
@@TuBella14 right I got one too, they’re just really pretty and butterflies have always brought good things to me so idk where the mind control thing is coming from💀
Cleo need to take accountability for wanting to be the black friend and thinking ice spice would put her on
Bingo ice peep home girl was trying use her to climb the ladder to the top ice was like oh no no not me
I'd agree if she asked Ice to be put on, but ice asked her??🤷🏽♀️
that is so nasty and disrespectful to say the show starts at 8/9 and have your opener start at 7-7:30. i’ve never gone to a concert that had openers and they didn’t correlate the start time with the first opener. most recently when i saw jhene, everyone knew what time all the performers were starting.
I FCKN KNEW IT!!! I didnt know why I didn't like her but I knew something was wrong!! This is why you listen yo your intuition ladies ❤
That part
Do you also have a bad vibe about her animal knecklace too? Idk why but it gives really bad evil vibes...you definitely right about her character
Same ! It bothered me that she rubbed me the wrong way considering shes a Capricorn.
Y’all are weird 😂
The crazy part is that she’s been in our face with with the same energy ice spice literally has a song called bully freestyle. The only reason why I didn’t believe baby was because she seemed very demonic.
Couldn’t care less about some frozen seasoning.
I’m just thankful it sounds like you and your baby are healthy and doing well ❤
"Frozen seasoning"?
Girl, you are ruuuudeee 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂🤣😂
Not frozen seasoning! 🧊🧂 I'm done, its time for me to log off!! 😩😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Ate that one up.
😂😂
Cleo gave so much grace. You can never treat someone so bad that you have respect for and genuinely fuck with. You can’t watch them struggle like that. You can’t sit down to eat by yourself knowing your friend is hungry too. It will be your natural instinct to help make sure they are good.
Cleo handled it well by finishing what she came there to do ✅.
May she truly be blessed for her grind and dedication 🙏🏾
I hate this for Cleo but I feel like she peeped something was off way before this incident.
“She doesn’t play UNO” has me dead 😂😂😂😂
" NO UBER EATS, NO UBER TO EAT" omg she is so funny
I believe every word. Many women who "have it all" are actually very covert with their humiliation tactics towards other women. Their paranoia of everyone being supposedly so jealous makes them gate keep and act just as oppressive as rich men. It's sad this girl had to go through all of that.
You really don't think successful people have tons of jealous and manipulative people around them? It's a lose-lose for them. Even if you are good to people. it's never enough. And they will turn on you eventually anyways.
@@WTFBUTWHY I 100 percent believe successful people can have jealous people around. Yes, two things can be true. Regarding the context of this situation I believe Cleo was seen as a joke and only allowed to be around as long as she didn't shine too bright.
This is facts and I've been saying this for years, I've been a victim of this from multiple women 😢 they have everything going for themselves but still have hate in their hearts.
Sometimes specifically light skin women
@@kimmyw010 I know what you're talking about. They have no reason to be sour, yet always have to randomly humiliate you for NO REASON. I believe they do that to keep certain women from feeling just as empowered as do. It's nasty, and I'm sorry you experienced this. As you can see I, too, am a dark skinned woman. You aren't alone. Everyone loves us when we are supporting their come up but the minute we need any hint of support everything changes for the worst. Keep your head up Kimmy. You deserve better.
3:34 as a real fan, I was PISSED when she popped out with Ice Spice. I know she's from NY, but shorty deserved to be around matched talent (Glo, Flo, JT, Young MA, real rappers!)
Right! Ice ain’t close to being on her talent level.
Young MA isn't a real rapper so I won't even put her on this list btw , but I do agree with everything else you made
@@dystanysam9896wait how is young ma not a real rapper?
Ice got more hits than all of them stop it
@dystanysam9896 umm.. young MA can actually rap…
This is literally why I keep to myself. Some folks don’t deserve friends and ruin the experience for the rest of us. Cleo deserves actual friends that will give the same love and energy that she gives. We all do (all meaning the REAL ones). Can we come up with a code word or something? Because we need to be able to easily find each other in this sea of fakeass assholes. 😢❤
That’s such a shitty feeling too when you feel isolated like that. Gotta speak up when people try to play in your face for real
YES!!! Ive felt it before
Light skinned girls swear they’re not bullies lol
Ice Spice was using Cleo as a prop and thought she had an underling
(And before anyone starts, don’t. You don’t see enough light skinned women speaking out against colorism against dark skinned women because they benefit it and they perpetuate it as well)
@@karishajohnson6537 it’s not colorism. Ice isn’t cool with multiple Lightskin women like Latto & Nicki now. She’s had some back & forth with the city girls. They’re just mean girls regardless of color.
@@WarmSunMgm Yes they’re mean girls but colorism/color does play a part as well imo.
Considering how Ice Spice propped Cleo beside her and just expected Cleo, who barely knows her, to validate for her Blackness is an indicator in my opinion.
@@karishajohnson6537 we haven’t heard ice spices side but i can see why she would say that. I had a roommate who literally did the same thing when someone asked her what i was. She’s met my family but acted like i wasn’t black lol. She even told someone i have a white mom when i don’t. A lot of Darkskin people gotta stop acting like they don’t throw us in and out of blackness.
'before anyone starts, don't', and i love that part
stop it, u tryna further more seperate the black community, yes there is a llot of light skin girls who bully darker girls but you not finna sit here and just say us as a whole just dont stick up for darkskin girls based of ice actions. stop ts
Ice can’t make any points but say “that’s crazy bro” I teared up a bit because I know how it feels to be around fake people and be the butt of a joke. So I’m happy Cleo was able to make the best out of a shitty situation. She was definitely being protected 🙏🏽
Don’t invite me to anything if you don’t want me to go. People do this weird ish. Unbelievable! That’s neglect and abusive.
She was invited last minute that should have been her biggest red flag
Nelly are you really motivated ??😭😂
Set boundaries stop staying in situations you're not welcome in... stop entertaining people who don't value you.... this goes beyond not being silenced because you can still remove yourself with poise without the noise. Put yourself first if your not comfortable in a situations no matter the situation leave....
Omg the story just kept getting worst 😭😭😭💔
She was just ice spices token black female friend to appeal more to the black community
She had to replace baby storme
I’m dealing with mistreatment in business and the lesson I’m seeing is STOP letting people play in your face. Cut it out the first time.
Ice called her entitled but that’s just crazy. Like if someone comes on tour with you and YOU invite them then why would you expect them to have everything they need. Especially if you didn’t tell them. Like……that’s your fault ice wow!
Stop blaming Cleo for being taken advantage of, blame ice spice for intentionally using her. There are some people in this world who try to see the good in people. But it was clearly a learning point for her.
I'm sorry, I'm ashy AF as a black woman!!! Then proceeds to lick herself 😭
I literally paused the vid n busted out laughingggg!!! 😂😂
What a real n relatable moment bc she was bout to cry. She so genuine
Cleo is the one and only
You can’t just go on tour with no contract!!! Friend or no!!! The gyal (ice spice) is Ruthless and I’m sorry you had this experience smh
Thinking everyone is jealous of you shows how much psychological help is needed. It’s giving delusional.
Exactly
Bot behavior
Literally not even cute at all
Baby Storme was right
my first thought 😭 i hope someone else makes a vid like this including what she had to say
@@gyarugirlsame too to be honest. I saw this coming to be honest as I feel sorry for both Cleo and Baby Storme.
@@CrystalAcheing me too! and idk if u saw but baby storme even admitted on tiktok that she was in fact manic and that’s why she went on that whole rant, clearly she was telling a lot
of the truth tho
@@gyarugirl exactly right to the point 👍🏾
Ice got some money and still scared of cleo to do super great cause she actually cold and if the right person gives her a chance it’s over for spice
Welcome back Eloho, congrats on the baby 🎉
She doesn’t even want to play uno took me out
35:57 Nah she wasn’t mad about no luggage. This is just who she is.
right she been a hata
Congratulations on you and your family becoming 3 😭😭😭😭💕💕💕💕💕 I’m sooooo happy for you beautiful
I respect the hell out of Cleo’s patience cause I’d have clocked out wayyyyyy earlier. Her boldness is inspiring. Ice will reap what she sowed eventually
She was gaslighted at every turn. I'm so happy to be old 😂😂😂😂. This baby thought it was ok to go on a tour unprepared. No friend would only give you only one day notice for a national tour.
Didn’t months ago ice so called best friend foretold all of this. She said how nasty ice was and how she hated Cleo. Can’t say she wasn’t warned because it was everywhere I damn sure don’t follow none of them.
Yeah Baby Storme. Nobody wanted to listen cuz apparently she crashes out like Azalea Banks 🤷🏾♀️ ; and only became Spices friend out of revenge for being bullied by her in high school. So people were confused about what was true. Personally I believe the girl.
Where can I find this ?
@@jesenializ339 the girl name is baby storm I believe just look ice spice best friend outing here
She wanted to give Ice the benefit of the doubt.
Ice being a fake girls girl is crazy . She is so crazy to disrespect Cleo like that ! Period !
There’s quite a bit of them, unfortunately. I’ve dealt with it. They pretend to be girls girls to get your guard down early and earn their fake trust. It’s scary ah.
baby Storme tried to warn everyone
Baby storme is mentally unstable
@@CC-rm9uqthat doesn't mean she can't tell the truth
A lot of people discredited what baby storme story just because of her aesthetic which is sad asf
That’s why I’m friendless girls be shadyyyy. Secretly competing with you over men, jealous, spiteful, and can’t wait to tell your business!!
Not all just some. When you find your tribe it’s amazing.
That secret competition is REAL. Weirdo women
A-lot of people are missing the hints in this video about demons and the devil and how these celebrities are behind the scene!