I really hate how much Rick skimmed to get Caroline away from Thomas only to throw her away like a piece of trash, he should've just let her be Thomas from the beginning. Smh 😒
@@blairf7118 I'm talking about before Maya was introduced as Rick's love interest, since you want to get technical Caroline was with Rick first. So it's Maya who should've stayed out of their relationship
It's ashame it took another man coming in for hope to realize she is worth more than being the woman of the moment for Liam. Steffy and her deserved better than that flip flopping sob
Sorry people but she's married to liam I knew her and Wyatt were married just they don't connect like liam and hope do that's why her and liam belong together I don't have a problem with wyatt actually I ship him and flo they are good together.
@@christinevesper2281 Yes she did she said over and over again that he only married her for the baby and she was happy when the baby died because she Said it met Liam was going to come back to her
While I mostly watched the series while this season was airing, I never saw this episode. This is the first time I've seen Hope become realistic with Liam and spell things out for him. She recognizes that Liam's feelings for Steffy have deepened and she will not take this see-saw of relationship just because the seat is on her side at this moment. It's good that Wyatt's appearance made her stand up for herself. It's too bad that she didn't dump Liam right away for Wyatt. She should have completely shut the door on him and they should have written Wyatt as a more upstanding man.
Well she can't give anyone to anybody. Lmaooooo SMH I'm just glad Hope going to be with Wyatt. If you notice Liam even asked Sneffy to go bk home with.
Eventually yes but in retrospect probably at a later point. I'm glad though that she is removing the rose stained glasses on her relationship with Liam it was pretty obvious that it was him and steffy.
Niana Nicholas actually no! Hope never tried to move on when Liam was with Steffy. Now she has options so no need to hang on to someone who isn’t all in
I think so. A women can only handle so much. But hope does waffle, and she loses a baby and leaves for paris also. Hence ivy and Steffys last marriage to liam after wyatt.
It's not stuck, it's because he lost his baby , he can't think right, if he really want Steffy , he would say the right words to Steffy or Stayed in Paris. Steffy kept saying Hope is your future, Liam never answer.
Caroline should get with Carter. She's more turned on by him than Maya is. Hope now has options so she's not that into Liam anymore.....or maybe she's not feeling Liam because there's no Steffy to beat to get him.
Hope finally! Liam has never deserved you I just wish you realized that sooner. I also wish you would stop solely blaming Steffy, Liam should own 95% of the blame.
Liam went to Paris saying he wasn't ready to accept it was over and that they could work through this and still be together. Then when Steffy said no again he came back and said he was sure that he wanted a future with Hope. And he sees nothing wrong with that? That's the definition of her being the second choice.
This is a soap opera n a poorly imo written one. So in this writing lope are true love and soulmates. I agree liam n hope should fight harder to be or stay together but this is the writing. This writers like 2 keep same triangles goin for decades. I'm tired of it Let steffy move on with bill or finn already. Keep lope together!
Liam could never be alone and he mistreated every woman he's been with - except maybe Sally but he didn't have the opportunity to actually be with Sally
What are you talking about? Steffy fought tooth and nail for Liam. She trapped Hope in a gondola, conspired with her brother in Cabo, and hid the truth of Bill's involvement in what happened in Italy. Yet Liam still chose Hope!
@@ksritz785 Oh really? She tricked Liam into marrying her the day after Hope called off their first engagement. Then she only got him the second time around because Hope wanted nothing to do with him after Rick convinced her that Liam was cheating on her. You would think third time would be the charm, but even then Steffy only got him because Hope wasn't around anymore!
He tried to tell Hope and her mother that he needed time to deal with all of this but they just has to have him falling all over himself to be with Hope or he wasnt good enough. This was manipulative ass hell. Liam just found out another devistating factor in his marriage and instead of giving him some time to process it with her Hope goes in on him and wants him to take off his ring. I mean who would want that type of "support" from a woman that said she can be patient and to take all the time you need.
@Posi Tive I agree. Although I'm not a Hope fan, neither deserve a man with a divided heart. Even with the current episodes, Liam keeps telling Steffy he's there for her. Steffy is like no, you're here for Kelly. So glad the doctor has come.
@Posi Tive I think if her and the doctor get engaged, he'll try and stop the wedding. Which of course will break Hope's heart and the triangle will be formed again.
If it was any other man, yes. But Liam put THEM through hell. And Hope made a good point. She simply said: As long as you wanna come back just because Steffy wants you to, I don't want no parts of you. He is waffling again. If Steffy comes back, it will be the same ordeal since he did not chose Hope over Steffy, he just settled for her after finding out that Steffy is no option.
Hope and Brooke always pushed Liam to be with Hope and never gave him time to process his losses with Steffy, but they refused to five him time. Their idea of patience was a matter of hours to get over steffy and the loss of his baby. Then they complain that he isn't over steffy
Hope had no problems being with Liam when he was with Steffy when they were living together and even when they were married .. and suddenly when Liam is single she doesn’t want him , . .? She only wants an excuse to explore things with Wayet ..🤣
It's funny how Hope was fine with it before. Steffy lost the baby and there is nothing standing in their way. She accepted the sacrifice before. But Wyatt and that Spencer necklace got her rethinking her stance until 2018 when she is ok with Steffy's sacrifice, and sharing Liam's heart with Steffy and Kelly. Oh I forgot Kelly does not exist in Hope's world. SMDH
liam is a selfish the love from steffy wa snot deep a husband fight for his wife liam not .he goes with hope ,i must say steffy is better alone than a waffle ,liam ha snever fight for steffy here this say all ,words are nothing
That's not what she meant. She never said shes second choice. She meant steffy sent liam to the "next best thing" ..which was hope. That was steffys way....trying to do the selfless act... because she had no other way of keeping liam if she couldn't get pregnant. But anyway ....this was the beginning to where liam learnt who he really loved when Wyatt stepped in as competition for hope.
@@mizzcassiphanatic5403 Liam has always loved himself the most and he always took the easiest path for him. There were countless situations in which he ran after Steffy. Whenever he can't have one woman, he runs to the other. This isn't true love, it's despair. Still, Steffy and Liam had better chemistry and a more exciting relationship from the start. Hope and Liam are pure boredom.
Any door open Hope will take Liam has always been in love with Steffy. Hope she has always had Brooke to do Hope dirty work to get Liam. Liam loves Hope not in love with her
Hope thinking she can demand that liam completely forget about steffy 🙄 Sorry hope, if you want 100% of a man's heart - that man will never be Liam You can't demand that he not love Steffy.
This right here led me to believe that Steffy could never have a kid with Liam but her one night stand with Bill resulted in Kelly. I bet you in 10 years Bill will turn out to be her father even now that Bill and Finns mother will hook up.
Wishful thinking of Hopeless fans. After that, Steffy got pregnant again. Already forgotten? Kelly was fully developed so not born premature, which means Bill is out. Besides, if Bill had tampered with the paternity test, he would have played his joker long before he really wanted Steffy for himself. If Bell plans such a mischief, it's just as illogical as if Beth isn't Liam's daughter.
Hope used her telling Liam to marry steffy as an excuse to claim Liam only married steffy because St. Hope told him to. Hope doesn't like steffy holding the same "I gave Liam to you, but can take him back card" that hope thought she held 😅😅
Mandy Rayner That isn’t what she said or meant. She was saying that LIAM was portraying Steffy leaving and telling him to be with Hope as a beautiful gift to him and that she could see that he admired her sacrificing her happiness for his. In fact, she said she felt awful for Steffy. Despite their differences, Hope really does care about Steffy, and I actually believe that Steffy cares about Hope...deep down and in her own way.
Neesha Anthony I always hated how they suddenly changed Caroline’s personality in order to try to make this story work. They didn’t have to turn the previously sweet and principled Caroline into a vapid, spoiled, self-centered brat to explain why Rick wanted to dump her. There was no reason why he couldn’t have just been fascinated by Maya, developed feelings for her, and decided he wanted to pursue her. THEN it may have made sense for there to be some changes in Caroline’s personality. Losing love can make even the sweetest person do things they normally wouldn’t.
What do you people see in Quinn? honestly...where's the Allure.. I think she's bell's family or something lol because no one stays married for as long as she and Eric has.
Carter has been disloyal trash from the beginning. Hitting on Maya while she was with Rick, sleeping with Quinn while she was married to Eric and now romancing Paris while she's with Zende. He really needs to be fired from Forrester Creations!
So Myron/Maya can sleep with both Carter and Rick and not be truthful about being born a man. I know it’s only a soap but that is incredibly disrespectful to any man or woman you are sexually involved with.
Hope doesn't like it when steffy handed off Liam to her, but she felt all special for telling Liam to marry steffy when she was pregnant. More Logan double standards 🤣🙄 Hope should have stuck with Wyatt
It's so funny because Hope is right. Steffy did heal from everything and did end up coming back and wanting Liam back lol.
I really hate how much Rick skimmed to get Caroline away from Thomas only to throw her away like a piece of trash, he should've just let her be Thomas from the beginning. Smh 😒
Sarah ??? Agree
So true
Plus caroline is really pretty and deserves so much more.. damn Rick
Well she could have let him stay with maya because she ended up getting the hots for Ridge during their marriage and kissing and falling for him
@@blairf7118
I'm talking about before Maya was introduced as Rick's love interest, since you want to get technical Caroline was with Rick first.
So it's Maya who should've stayed out of their relationship
It's ashame it took another man coming in for hope to realize she is worth more than being the woman of the moment for Liam. Steffy and her deserved better than that flip flopping sob
I really like Wyatt with Hope.
So do I!
Karolin Abbadessa Me too
Sorry people but she's married to liam I knew her and Wyatt were married just they don't connect like liam and hope do that's why her and liam belong together I don't have a problem with wyatt actually I ship him and flo they are good together.
@@coreycrist7777 I agree.
Liam won't admit he begged steffy to come back with him. He tells hope one thing and steffy something else.
Hope finally has to admit that liam truly does love steffy !
Michelle Jones She never denied that he did.
"pointing out the flaws and knowing how to fix them" Wow Hope your good, and that is why they are together...
@@christinevesper2281 Yes she did she said over and over again that he only married her for the baby and she was happy when the baby died because she Said it met Liam was going to come back to her
That's right stephy doe's love Liam
Steffy doesn't love liam. Steam didn't n never will belong together. Liam n hope always.
Something HOPE would never do she wouldn't sacrifice anything but for herself
Steffy actually did come back and wanted Liam back 🤣🤣
and once Liam started to let his barrier down to Steffy no one else can compete
I love the episode where she comes back!!
While I mostly watched the series while this season was airing, I never saw this episode. This is the first time I've seen Hope become realistic with Liam and spell things out for him. She recognizes that Liam's feelings for Steffy have deepened and she will not take this see-saw of relationship just because the seat is on her side at this moment. It's good that Wyatt's appearance made her stand up for herself. It's too bad that she didn't dump Liam right away for Wyatt. She should have completely shut the door on him and they should have written Wyatt as a more upstanding man.
Boy that was fast Liam you just got back from Paris
But when hope found out steffy was pregnant she thought it was best to tell Liam to marry Steffy. Which he already was gonna do. Hope is such a joke
I love how she gave Liam to Hope.. I would not taking no man because someone gave him to me lol wtf!!
Well she can't give anyone to anybody.
Lmaooooo SMH
I'm just glad Hope going to be with Wyatt.
If you notice Liam even asked Sneffy to go bk home with.
When Hope tried to give Liam to Steffy not so long ago he didn't take her lol
Oh really she had no problem doing it in 2018.
Steffy hasn't the power to give another person to another person lol. Liam did what he wanted. Fact.
boom, Hope dropped the mike on Liam. One question though, if Wyatt wasn't in the pictures would her reaction be the same?
Eventually yes but in retrospect probably at a later point. I'm glad though that she is removing the rose stained glasses on her relationship with Liam it was pretty obvious that it was him and steffy.
Niana Nicholas actually no! Hope never tried to move on when Liam was with Steffy. Now she has options so no need to hang on to someone who isn’t all in
@Nellie Cooper 🤣🤣🤣
She has had options before just not one she actually wanted
I think so. A women can only handle so much. But hope does waffle, and she loses a baby and leaves for paris also. Hence ivy and Steffys last marriage to liam after wyatt.
I had forgotten what a monumental pain in the arse Hope always was... having said that, Kim Matula is and always will be the only Hope!
It's not stuck, it's because he lost his baby , he can't think right, if he really want Steffy , he would say the right words to Steffy or Stayed in Paris. Steffy kept saying Hope is your future, Liam never answer.
Caroline should get with Carter. She's more turned on by him than Maya is. Hope now has options so she's not that into Liam anymore.....or maybe she's not feeling Liam because there's no Steffy to beat to get him.
I know right. Caroline can barely control herself.
Hope finally! Liam has never deserved you I just wish you realized that sooner. I also wish you would stop solely blaming Steffy, Liam should own 95% of the blame.
Liam went to Paris saying he wasn't ready to accept it was over and that they could work through this and still be together. Then when Steffy said no again he came back and said he was sure that he wanted a future with Hope. And he sees nothing wrong with that? That's the definition of her being the second choice.
No it's not as steffy was 2nd choice from beginning of story. Rewatch.
This is a soap opera n a poorly imo written one. So in this writing lope are true love and soulmates. I agree liam n hope should fight harder to be or stay together but this is the writing. This writers like 2 keep same triangles goin for decades. I'm tired of it
Let steffy move on with bill or finn already. Keep lope together!
Liam could never be alone and he mistreated every woman he's been with - except maybe Sally but he didn't have the opportunity to actually be with Sally
It was hard for Liam to take off his ring. It really was a closer to loosing the baby and Steffy. Hope always wants the attention
Hope didn’t mind this last time around when she got Liam only because Steffy said so.
What are you talking about? Steffy fought tooth and nail for Liam. She trapped Hope in a gondola, conspired with her brother in Cabo, and hid the truth of Bill's involvement in what happened in Italy. Yet Liam still chose Hope!
I am talking about the fact that Liam’s is only with Hope right now because Steffy ditched him and proposed to Hope for him.
@@ksritz785 Well, Steffy only got him by default in the past, so perhaps she is correcting that?
That’s not true at all.
@@ksritz785 Oh really? She tricked Liam into marrying her the day after Hope called off their first engagement. Then she only got him the second time around because Hope wanted nothing to do with him after Rick convinced her that Liam was cheating on her. You would think third time would be the charm, but even then Steffy only got him because Hope wasn't around anymore!
He tried to tell Hope and her mother that he needed time to deal with all of this but they just has to have him falling all over himself to be with Hope or he wasnt good enough. This was manipulative ass hell. Liam just found out another devistating factor in his marriage and instead of giving him some time to process it with her Hope goes in on him and wants him to take off his ring. I mean who would want that type of "support" from a woman that said she can be patient and to take all the time you need.
@Posi Tive I agree. Although I'm not a Hope fan, neither deserve a man with a divided heart. Even with the current episodes, Liam keeps telling Steffy he's there for her. Steffy is like no, you're here for Kelly. So glad the doctor has come.
@Posi Tive good point
@Posi Tive I think if her and the doctor get engaged, he'll try and stop the wedding. Which of course will break Hope's heart and the triangle will be formed again.
If it was any other man, yes. But Liam put THEM through hell. And Hope made a good point. She simply said: As long as you wanna come back just because Steffy wants you to, I don't want no parts of you. He is waffling again. If Steffy comes back, it will be the same ordeal since he did not chose Hope over Steffy, he just settled for her after finding out that Steffy is no option.
Hope and Brooke always pushed Liam to be with Hope and never gave him time to process his losses with Steffy, but they refused to five him time. Their idea of patience was a matter of hours to get over steffy and the loss of his baby. Then they complain that he isn't over steffy
Hope had no problems being with Liam when he was with Steffy when they were living together and even when they were married .. and suddenly when Liam is single she doesn’t want him , . .? She only wants an excuse to explore things with Wayet ..🤣
Liam deserves it..sorry but not sorry
@@daniellak.7521 I agree.. it would be great if both girls left him for another guy .. that would have been a refreshing change..
Bring back Kim
She's the best with this character. It's hard for a newcomer to play a role that was surrounded with top storylines. Kim's wardrobe was amazing.
poor hopeless hope...wants liam only when she cant have him 🙄
That's steffy.
Hopeless and Wyatt make a much better couple 😀
No they dont. Lope always.
It's funny how Hope was fine with it before. Steffy lost the baby and there is nothing standing in their way. She accepted the sacrifice before. But Wyatt and that Spencer necklace got her rethinking her stance until 2018 when she is ok with Steffy's sacrifice, and sharing Liam's heart with Steffy and Kelly. Oh I forgot Kelly does not exist in Hope's world. SMDH
Sandra Arkorful-Chestnut
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Liam always chooses Hope in the end!
saying this because of Wyatt on the scene
liam is a selfish the love from steffy wa snot deep a husband fight for his wife liam not .he goes with hope ,i must say steffy is better alone than a waffle ,liam ha snever fight for steffy here this say all ,words are nothing
I thought liam just want be in love with suffer or hope smh liam you grow ass men play with 2 people heart
I love me some Wyatt
keep another wedding HOPE must be having withdrawal symptoms lol
Maya and Carter are better than Maya and Rick
Ironic that Liam married Steffy because she told him to (after the 1st pregnancy). And now she's telling him to take his ring off lol
not really Liam would have asked Steffy to get engaged but having Hope mention it kinda resolvd his worries lol Ok Hope i can marry Steffy lol
Hope is just mad because hope said Liam married steffy because hope told him to, but when the tides are turned, hope resents it. 😅
Hopeless finally realising she is and will always be Liams second choice 😅😅
That's not what she meant. She never said shes second choice.
She meant steffy sent liam to the "next best thing" ..which was hope.
That was steffys way....trying to do the selfless act... because she had no other way of keeping liam if she couldn't get pregnant.
But anyway ....this was the beginning to where liam learnt who he really loved when Wyatt stepped in as competition for hope.
@@mizzcassiphanatic5403 Liam has always loved himself the most and he always took the easiest path for him. There were countless situations in which he ran after Steffy. Whenever he can't have one woman, he runs to the other. This isn't true love, it's despair. Still, Steffy and Liam had better chemistry and a more exciting relationship from the start. Hope and Liam are pure boredom.
Any door open Hope will take Liam has always been in love with Steffy. Hope she has always had Brooke to do Hope dirty work to get Liam. Liam loves Hope not in love with her
Steffy was always 2nd choice! Facts! This year they did a rewrite n rewrites are a no no not believable.
No No, Hope he loves u the best, Hope told him to marry Steffy before baby born. Liam didn't to do it.
Here we go again hope with your demands and complications that's why you loose Liam in the first place
I feel for hope she has been so pancient with Liam
At this point Liam should've said F U Hope. What else do you want from me? Then go back to Paris to be with Steffy....
Hope and liam forever!!!!
No stephy and Liam forever always
No. Steffy n liam are toxic garbage couple. Hope n liam forever n ever regardless what writers do.
Hope thinking she can demand that liam completely forget about steffy 🙄
Sorry hope, if you want 100% of a man's heart - that man will never be Liam
You can't demand that he not love Steffy.
So sad Hope don't got that until 2023 about Liam and Steffy
Liam had absolutely no right to tell Hope about Steffy's medical condition!
LOL but her mom had every right to steal Brooke's medical information and publicly announce it ???? REALLY
This right here led me to believe that Steffy could never have a kid with Liam but her one night stand with Bill resulted in Kelly. I bet you in 10 years Bill will turn out to be her father even now that Bill and Finns mother will hook up.
Wishful thinking of Hopeless fans. After that, Steffy got pregnant again. Already forgotten? Kelly was fully developed so not born premature, which means Bill is out. Besides, if Bill had tampered with the paternity test, he would have played his joker long before he really wanted Steffy for himself. If Bell plans such a mischief, it's just as illogical as if Beth isn't Liam's daughter.
@@feuerwehrluetzenexactly
i say allways this soap is really and joke steffy can not have baby after she can't this soap is all science fiction unreal and stupid
Didn't Hope do the same when she "told" Liam to marry Steffy! 🙄
But Steffy did not know :D..she would not have accepted that proposal if she knew lol
Hope used her telling Liam to marry steffy as an excuse to claim Liam only married steffy because St. Hope told him to. Hope doesn't like steffy holding the same "I gave Liam to you, but can take him back card" that hope thought she held 😅😅
poor Liam he really loves Steffy
Nope. Liam in love with hope not steffy.
Good thing Karla Mosley's husband isn't like Rick 🤣🤣🤣
Who knows xd
When does Caroline design as she is always causing trouble and chasing Rick like a lost dog. Does Hope see Liam is still wearing his wedding ring.
how nasty Hope whats beautiful about not having ability to conceive
Mandy Rayner That isn’t what she said or meant. She was saying that LIAM was portraying Steffy leaving and telling him to be with Hope as a beautiful gift to him and that she could see that he admired her sacrificing her happiness for his.
In fact, she said she felt awful for Steffy. Despite their differences, Hope really does care about Steffy, and I actually believe that Steffy cares about Hope...deep down and in her own way.
@@christinevesper2281 No she doesn't when the baby died the 1st words out of her mouth were I guess Liam's going to come back me now
@@christinevesper2281hope does not care about steffy at all.
Why Hope change! She was powerful...
No more waiting for waffling ping pong ball Liam ♥️ 💛 hope 💜❤️
No stephy and Liam
Liam n hope Always.
Oh Caroline the tings women do on this show for a man's attention
Neesha Anthony I always hated how they suddenly changed Caroline’s personality in order to try to make this story work. They didn’t have to turn the previously sweet and principled Caroline into a vapid, spoiled, self-centered brat to explain why Rick wanted to dump her. There was no reason why he couldn’t have just been fascinated by Maya, developed feelings for her, and decided he wanted to pursue her. THEN it may have made sense for there to be some changes in Caroline’s personality. Losing love can make even the sweetest person do things they normally wouldn’t.
What do you people see in Quinn? honestly...where's the Allure.. I think she's bell's family or something lol because no one stays married for as long as she and Eric has.
Carter has been disloyal trash from the beginning. Hitting on Maya while she was with Rick, sleeping with Quinn while she was married to Eric and now romancing Paris while she's with Zende. He really needs to be fired from Forrester Creations!
Caroline is damn crazy and Rick is not impressed at all force love doesn't last really love comes from God
So Myron/Maya can sleep with both Carter and Rick and not be truthful about being born a man.
I know it’s only a soap but that is incredibly disrespectful to any man or woman you are sexually involved with.
Wyatt ❤️❤️
Karolin abbadessa i e gree whith You.
Hope ♥️ and Wyatt ♥️ belong together 💯💯❤️💜💚💛💚💜💜❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💯
No they dont. Hope n liam belong together always!
Hope doesn't like it when steffy handed off Liam to her, but she felt all special for telling Liam to marry steffy when she was pregnant. More Logan double standards 🤣🙄 Hope should have stuck with Wyatt
No Liam belongs with stephy not hope
Liam belongs with hope not steffy!
Yea a but racist over here how we can't c
I Love this hope just e great actrice hope shold have staid whith wyatt
Nope. Hope wasnt in love with wyatt!
The only reason why liam wants to be with hope is that he knows that selfish steffy told him to get lost...
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