The Northern and Southern Dynasties | The China History Podcast | Ep. 23

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025

Комментарии • 28

  • @jhengleone
    @jhengleone 3 года назад +9

    Out of all the periods in Chinesd History, this one is the most confusing (I included Sixteen Kingdoms Period). You gave a clear concise details of each dynasties in chronological order. This podcast needs more views.

    • @ChinaHistoryPodcast
      @ChinaHistoryPodcast  3 года назад +5

      This period, Sixteen Kingdoms, and Five Dynasties Ten Kingdoms periods are tough to absorb. It would probably help raise the view count if I promoted this more. I'm not a big user of social media. If you like the chronological presentation of Chinese history you should go check out Chris Stewart's History of China Podcast. I don't think he has a RUclips channel though. Thanks Leo!

    • @jhengleone
      @jhengleone 3 года назад +1

      @@ChinaHistoryPodcast I will do that. Thanks! What's making me confuse is that the Numbers of the kingdoms/dynasties doesnt add up to its given name period hahahahahaha I have tried counting, I counted more than the official number they gave. What gives? Hahahahaha

    • @ChinaHistoryPodcast
      @ChinaHistoryPodcast  3 года назад +3

      @@jhengleone A mystery wrapped up in a riddle, inside an enigma.

  • @bensantos3882
    @bensantos3882 5 месяцев назад +1

    I know you rarely read comments, but God bless you. I love the fact you deal with so many, many topics of Asian history. It amazes me you know so much of Japanesez Easy Russian, Marxism, Feudalism, Legalism, Indian, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese and of Course Chinese history.
    I wish one day you do a segment about mythical Asian beasts or cryptids? I saw a video of another East Asian Historian talk about Russian bigfoot. They were different being about the same height of men around 6ft tall. They were distinctly red fur in appearance, and the Russians would always see them near left out firepits burning for various reasons.
    Apparently these red bigfoot were very gregarious and it wouldn't be unheard of to see as many as 8 huddled around the fire pit. Usually hunters, Fisherman or outdoorsmen would always be surprised to find them, and these things would bolt as soon as they were discovered.

    • @ChinaHistoryPodcast
      @ChinaHistoryPodcast  5 месяцев назад +2

      Actually, I rarely miss comments. It's always a pleasure to hear from you. I haven't heard this episode in a decade. It's so funny to listen to what this show used to be and what it is now (with much better audio and narration). Yeah, I would love to do an episode on a selection of many mythical creatures from ancient China. One of these days I'll meet someone here who can collaborate with me to turn the audio into video. China's Mythical Creatures will be the first one I do. Thanks, Ben for suffering through this old old CHP episode.

    • @bensantos3882
      @bensantos3882 5 месяцев назад

      @ChinaHistoryPodcast Thank you, that would be wonderful. I think you should do it sooner rather than later. If you didn't realize Black Wukong is incredibly popular.
      My feeds about Chinese, Chinese mythology, and Tang China have all been randomly churned back up because of this game.
      It came from a Chinese game developer, and as it stands on Steam alone, it has the highest single-player bought and player count online at over 2.8 million.
      People all around the world love Chinese Mythology now and the quicker you put out a Sun Wukong video the better. I'd love to watch it, since everything you produce is gold bars.

    • @ChinaHistoryPodcast
      @ChinaHistoryPodcast  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@bensantos3882 Yeah, I'm not a gamer myself but I know all about it and I'm consulting to a new studio that is producing a similar kind of game (not based on Journey to the West). Glad to see this kind of interest. Thanks again, Ben.

    • @bensantos3882
      @bensantos3882 5 месяцев назад

      @@ChinaHistoryPodcast My pleasure.

    • @bensantos3882
      @bensantos3882 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ChinaHistoryPodcast I stand corrected over 11+ million copies sold.

  • @thedjflawless
    @thedjflawless 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for helping me prepare for my university exam

    • @ChinaHistoryPodcast
      @ChinaHistoryPodcast  3 года назад +1

      Always a pleasure. I hope you did well.

    • @thedjflawless
      @thedjflawless 3 года назад +1

      @@ChinaHistoryPodcast Yes I passed. The textbook information was so dry, I'm so happy I could watch your channel and put some faces and stories behind the names.

    • @ChinaHistoryPodcast
      @ChinaHistoryPodcast  3 года назад +1

      @@thedjflawless So glad to hear that. China's period of disunity don't get the love that the Qin, Han, Tang, etc... get. This Northern-Southern Dynasties period had a lot of transformative stuff going on. I should cover more topics from this time period. Good job on the exam!!

  • @ancienttimes3773
    @ancienttimes3773 6 лет назад +3

    I'm loving this series and your channel in general so far. It's shocking to me just how low the Wests interest is in Ancient Chinese History. I really like Ancient History and was wondering what books you think would be a good started to read? I was hoping for something similar to how Livy writes about Rome, where it's quite action-packed and yet it neatly goes through the history in a chronological order. Or if there's nothing like that then something like Suetonius's 12 Caesars where it still goes through the period chronlogically, but has lots of anecdotes instead, what would you recommend?

    • @ChinaHistoryPodcast
      @ChinaHistoryPodcast  6 лет назад

      Ancient Times Thanks for the kind words. There’s lots of great histories written by the ancients. But I’ve always found E.H. Gombrich “A Little History of the World” and Charles Van Doreen “A History of Knowledge” the most enjoyable. Lots of available stuff in podcast and video format too.

    • @ancienttimes3773
      @ancienttimes3773 6 лет назад

      Ahh that's brilliant thanks. What podcasts would you reccomend for ancient China then? Aside from the "Romance of The Three Kingdoms" ones, I've heard there Romance of The Three Kingdoms is very innacurate.

    • @ChinaHistoryPodcast
      @ChinaHistoryPodcast  6 лет назад

      There's another good China History Podcast called The History of China Podcast by a young man named Christ Stewart. He does a chronological deeper dive into all of the topics I've covered. You might want to check him out. As far as a decent general history book of China that explains it well is John Keay's "China, A History". Can't recommend it enough. Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a fictionalized account of the events covered in "The Records of the Three Kingdoms". Most of the main characters were historical figures but Luo Guanzhong, the author of the novel, took a few liberties with the facts. No matter....over the centuries, it was a gateway for many people, to Chinese culture in general and that part of history in particular. What a story. What a time in China that was I bet.

    • @ancienttimes3773
      @ancienttimes3773 6 лет назад

      Alright I'll give it a look, thanks for the advice and wonderful podcast man I really appreciate it :)

  • @colinellesmere
    @colinellesmere 4 года назад +2

    The Northern Wei fascinates me and from this podcast I also want to look at the Liang dynasty. I saw an exhibition of Northern Wei Buddhist statues a number of years ago. As a practicing Buddhist they are the best set of Buddhist statues I have ever seen. They were perfectly preserved as they had been deliberately buried to no doubt avoid destruction or theft. The statues were so exquisitely carved that they embodied movement and intent. Laszlo Montgomery talks about the Yuan Grottoes in Datong which I have visited twice. Unlike Luo Yang which is almost exclusively composed of carved stone statues the Yuan Grottos are mainly composed of murals painted onto plaster inside man made caves. The larger caves were sealed and only opened a few. decades ago and so the colours are astoundingly preserved. Some caves have visible evidence of multiple pictures painted as murals are covered by works commissioned by later benefactors. The same can be seen in Dunghuan caves in Gangsu. It's well worth checking out on the net the images from Datong Yuan Grottos as well as Luoyang and Dunghuan. Also the hanging monastery near Datong which was built literally on a cliff face only accessible by climbing. I don't know when this was built but will check out if it was also during the Northern Wei although I guess it's somewhat later. Once again great thanks for these podcasts.

    • @ChinaHistoryPodcast
      @ChinaHistoryPodcast  4 года назад

      The Northern Wei.....doesn't get the respect and interest in deserves.

  • @conradojavier7547
    @conradojavier7547 6 лет назад +1

    What's with the "Wu Di" name being Overused?

    • @megakedar
      @megakedar 5 лет назад +2

      It's equivalent of being called "warrior king." It is obvious why so many emperors coveted the title.

    • @Renwoxing13
      @Renwoxing13 5 лет назад

      @@megakedar isnt it more literally translated as 《without enemies(I.e without equal, no opponent worth their time》?¿?
      Edit: I guess UNRIVALED encapsulates it more succinctly in English?
      Edit 2: I guess I was wrong since you said it is martial like wuxia!

    • @megakedar
      @megakedar 5 лет назад

      @@Renwoxing13 The Wu is the same word 武 that's "martial" or "military"

  • @saraband2004
    @saraband2004 8 лет назад

    In my opinion you probably need spend more time on this period. You did not mention much of 山东士族 or 士族门阀. This period is also skipped by the current China education standard, which is a pity. Some Sinologists compare this period to European middle ages.

    • @laszlomontgomery4900
      @laszlomontgomery4900 8 лет назад +4

      Yeah for sure I'm going to circle back and explore more about the 南北朝. In fact all the dynasties covered in that 27 part series are slated for closer examination later. I always meant to offer the broad strokes first and fill in the details later rather than putting an 18 course meal in front of everyone. The History of China Podcast might satisfy you more....go check him out. He went into much more detail....I think 4-5 episodes for this topic. Thanks.

    • @ChinaHistoryPodcast
      @ChinaHistoryPodcast  6 лет назад +4

      Honestly, these shows were from years ago. My goal back then was to just offer a very general overview. I was so reluctant to wander out into the quicksand of all the details surrounding the rise and fall of these many kingdoms during China's period of disunity. The other China history show by Chris Stewart offers a more focused look on this period. It's just too too much detail for me to enjoy. But I definitely agree with you I sort of rushed through the Nánběi Cháo. Thanks for listening!