Love the in book kitbashing tips, also the fact the boons are more different styles, than stronger lists. Makes the legacy armies look less like weaker armies.... and I want to play vampire counts for gothic spookyness!
Tomb Scorpions not rereleased part of the initial wave, but are a compulsory unit in one of the lists? My money (and hope) is on them getting a new model then! Maybe they will take inspiration from the Total War one!
Pretty sure I remember that there were some leaked images from one of the factories that showed a sprue that looked very much like a tomb scorpion, so you might be right on the money.
I hate that they made settra a “bad guy” because it what’s to conquer but forgetting that he is a good king and a just ruler and he lets the living live under his rule and they live every good lives in fact he made be the best king in all of oldworld
Settra is and was a tyrant. But he was very good at what he did, and make Nehekhara the best it has even been. And let's be honest, during his time everyone was a tyrant, and probably he wasn't the worst one around.
Settra was always a brutal tyrant. In life he performed human sacrifice on his own children. He was bitter and spiteful to his last breath for being unable to conquer the world in his lifetime. He created the Mortuary Cult and set them on a path that eventually produced Nagash. I'm a TK player, and I love Settra, but as a fascinating villain. His only redeeming quality is his defiance against Chaos.
I think it’s interesting that the armies of infamy can’t take allies. Makes sense in context but it’s actually a neat “hidden” drawback to scaling these up to “full army” size.
So is the Battle standard upgrade free?! I'm listening to this several times... Reading my own book, not seeing where you upgrade your royal herald. Is it really free?! That's crazy...
Just a quick question, is there still the restless dead rule for lore of nehekara, where units did revive when they received an augment spell? Or is revival now based only on the priest ability?
@@FullmetalTimowhy? You get to heal on a leadership test and not a spell (can be dispelled). Don’t mistake different for being worse or “sucking”. I would prefer the heal on a stick in the command then it being spell success dependent.
@@jamespeterson9620 the problem i see is, you have to take tons of priests to effectively heal your army. With spells, you could potentially heal up to 4 units, now its just one per priest. Also, its heavily level depend, a lvl 4 mage can heal minimum 5 wounds, as a lvl 1 can heal 2 minimum, to a max of 4 depending on the roll. Well, maybe the healing banner still excists.
Is that a command ability for every liche priest in an army or just the heirophant? I'm curious if running multiple lower level wizards is a viable option, when everyone else is thinking go hard on a single level 4.
I am confused about the lores of magic the tomb kings can take, In this video only Necromancy was mentioned however I have seen in other videos that they can also take Illusion and Elementalism I believe it was. Why was only Necromancy mentioned in this video?
Undead seem weaker in this edition, low stats and fear and terror being milder than most previous editions. Looking forward to seeing how the rule pan out.
Why are Tomb Kings considered evil? They were the first high civilisation of humanity and now that they've awoken again they find that their land is beset by outsiders. So they take back their stuff and great Kings like Settra are looking to conquer more territory. But that's the same mindset as 99% of the other factions, including the "good guys". Is it because they are undead? A fate in which they had no say and actively hate?
If i put a tomb king on a necrolith bone dragon what would his armor save be? the tomb king has heavy armor but the Bone dragon has draconic bones which counts as full plate. just wondering how this works.
With new rules I am unsure, but old system had it where war machines typically didn't have bases. You would instead measure from the muzzle/crossbar, or just closest part of the model depending on edition and type of machine. It is probably the same here.
Sphinxes dropped from T8 to T6? With only 5 wounds and a 5+ save / 6+ regen to keep them alive they are looking fragile now. Any unit with great weapons can put them down.
Keep in mind guys that " everything" has less ap this edition. So less negatives to Armour saves vs alot of the high strength stuff, thus really keeping the survivability pretty much the same consider that and the rest of the rules
No, only some extras to play the armies with diferent compositions. Think the arcane journals as a DLC for the armies, not as the army books of the previus editions.
6th edition Necrons (technically 5th I guess) were basically Tomb Kings in space.. Ossiarch Bonereapers in contrast is Necrons in High Fantasy. It's like using google translate several times on the same text back and forth. Overall, the Tomb Kings look good, hate that they use the Necromancy lore (though, I guess it's closer to death magic.. but still..), sad they removed Destroyer of Eternities, definitely my favorite TK item, though conqueror's blade seems like it has a similar (if less cool) role. Still, not paying three times the price for 20 year old models.. I might pay out for a few ushabti and Settra as I always wanted those.. But not buying the skeletons that were old when TK was released.
No model so it won't exist in the new rules. Shame, but not surprising. Maybe if they find that bone giant replacement that was supposedly made we might get something
@nathanmorrison6590 a lot of the things on the list do not have a model yet so I don't necessarily think that's the reason it's not in the rules. It just tells me it's not coming. Hopefully we do get that updated Bone Giant you mentioned, and not the old metal one again.
@@joelkurowski7129 But the Heirotitan never have a miniature, even when the unit was created on the 8th edition. This also means that the necrolit colossus will be the old bone giant again.
@@corsariosandrorect5238 you're making a massive assumption that they don't have any new miniatures planned. The bone dragon, tomb king, and khatep minis are all new.
@@joelkurowski7129 That is not my intention. I said that there is not the Heirotitan in the list now because there is no oficial miniature. Maybe in the future GW launch the Hierotitan? yes why not. But, at the moment, there is none, so there is not rule.
I have a great way to rebase your skeletons. I'm actually doing it while i m typing. Basically you take a citadel cutter (which you use to cut the pieces out of the plastic sprews) and cut the sides of the 20x20 base. You are thus not touching the actual upper part of the base and the skeleton is still attached. You then glue this now flat base on top of 25x25 base. Final step is 2 layers of ' technical armageddon dunes' to finish it up and it looks awesome. If you do it this way, you will not have to change anything about your old models.
In no way do I identify the Tomb Kings as being any more evil than any other faction in Old World and in fact less evil than those listed under forces of fantasy! Evil and Good are a poor choice of expression when the waters of alignment are definitely much more murky!
Tomb King gives you a tanky, hard hitting beat stick monster, but can't join a unit and convey his precious command bonus. Priest gives your Hieorophant a good save he otherwise can never get (4+ full plate), -1 to be shot, and mobility of a flying unit (fly 9) so he can position where necessary to cast buffing spells, hexes on enemies, and arise fallen troops. I think the priest is probably the more synergistic choice, but it depends on your army build.
Those variant lists in the Arcane Journal seem surprisingly cool and well written!
The old undead raising spell was invocation of nehek (after whom Nehekhara is named) iirc.
THANK YOU
The new intro music is so smooth and relaxing, like sipping a good whiskey on your day off.
Love the in book kitbashing tips, also the fact the boons are more different styles, than stronger lists. Makes the legacy armies look less like weaker armies.... and I want to play vampire counts for gothic spookyness!
Tomb Kings aren't the bad guys. Settra rules all he sees.
I am excited. I have, perhaps in spite of myself, bought the army box today..😂
Tomb Scorpions not rereleased part of the initial wave, but are a compulsory unit in one of the lists? My money (and hope) is on them getting a new model then! Maybe they will take inspiration from the Total War one!
Pretty sure I remember that there were some leaked images from one of the factories that showed a sprue that looked very much like a tomb scorpion, so you might be right on the money.
Showed off today... mostly theold sculpt but retooled and by the sounds of it maybe easier to build
What bonus does a sphinx give to the king? Unfortunately, we can't see it because your logo is in front of it in the video.
Thank you.
I hate that they made settra a “bad guy” because it what’s to conquer but forgetting that he is a good king and a just ruler and he lets the living live under his rule and they live every good lives in fact he made be the best king in all of oldworld
Settra is and was a tyrant. But he was very good at what he did, and make Nehekhara the best it has even been.
And let's be honest, during his time everyone was a tyrant, and probably he wasn't the worst one around.
A tyrant who was good to the people and made a kingdom where people live happy long life it was just the nobles who really felt sattras anger
Bretons being good guys while Settra is bad is funny to me.
Settra was always a brutal tyrant. In life he performed human sacrifice on his own children. He was bitter and spiteful to his last breath for being unable to conquer the world in his lifetime. He created the Mortuary Cult and set them on a path that eventually produced Nagash. I'm a TK player, and I love Settra, but as a fascinating villain. His only redeeming quality is his defiance against Chaos.
I think it’s interesting that the armies of infamy can’t take allies. Makes sense in context but it’s actually a neat “hidden” drawback to scaling these up to “full army” size.
So is the Battle standard upgrade free?! I'm listening to this several times... Reading my own book, not seeing where you upgrade your royal herald. Is it really free?! That's crazy...
Just a quick question, is there still the restless dead rule for lore of nehekara, where units did revive when they received an augment spell? Or is revival now based only on the priest ability?
only priest ability.
@@jamespeterson9620 well that sucks....
@@FullmetalTimowhy? You get to heal on a leadership test and not a spell (can be dispelled).
Don’t mistake different for being worse or “sucking”.
I would prefer the heal on a stick in the command then it being spell success dependent.
@@jamespeterson9620 the problem i see is, you have to take tons of priests to effectively heal your army. With spells, you could potentially heal up to 4 units, now its just one per priest. Also, its heavily level depend, a lvl 4 mage can heal minimum 5 wounds, as a lvl 1 can heal 2 minimum, to a max of 4 depending on the roll.
Well, maybe the healing banner still excists.
Is that a command ability for every liche priest in an army or just the heirophant? I'm curious if running multiple lower level wizards is a viable option, when everyone else is thinking go hard on a single level 4.
I can't quite make it out, how many points is the Necrosphinx?
I am confused about the lores of magic the tomb kings can take, In this video only Necromancy was mentioned however I have seen in other videos that they can also take Illusion and Elementalism I believe it was. Why was only Necromancy mentioned in this video?
Undead seem weaker in this edition, low stats and fear and terror being milder than most previous editions. Looking forward to seeing how the rule pan out.
From what ive seen i feel khemri is very well balanced.
I think you skipped some of the special characters.
Why are Tomb Kings considered evil? They were the first high civilisation of humanity and now that they've awoken again they find that their land is beset by outsiders. So they take back their stuff and great Kings like Settra are looking to conquer more territory. But that's the same mindset as 99% of the other factions, including the "good guys". Is it because they are undead? A fate in which they had no say and actively hate?
It's killing me the logo is covering up some of the entries
Yay it moved @21:35
If i put a tomb king on a necrolith bone dragon what would his armor save be? the tomb king has heavy armor but the Bone dragon has draconic bones which counts as full plate. just wondering how this works.
Take the best armour save I think
The casket of souls shows base size: n/a. How does thet work? No base? Any base? How do you meausure ranges then?
With new rules I am unsure, but old system had it where war machines typically didn't have bases. You would instead measure from the muzzle/crossbar, or just closest part of the model depending on edition and type of machine. It is probably the same here.
With your attention span
Brilliant review. thank you sir.
Sphinxes dropped from T8 to T6? With only 5 wounds and a 5+ save / 6+ regen to keep them alive they are looking fragile now. Any unit with great weapons can put them down.
I was wondering this myself. I assume its the 5+ regen and the command phase heal from priests that make them "survivable"
Keep in mind guys that " everything" has less ap this edition. So less negatives to Armour saves vs alot of the high strength stuff, thus really keeping the survivability pretty much the same consider that and the rest of the rules
Tomb Kings are not “evil “. Nagash is the one who is Evil. Settra was fooled by his priests and is only doing what he did in life.
Do the journals cover every unit in a given army?
No, my understanding is you need the Army Book to have all the units, Arcane Journals contain additional units and rules but not the whole army rules
No, only some extras to play the armies with diferent compositions. Think the arcane journals as a DLC for the armies, not as the army books of the previus editions.
6th edition Necrons (technically 5th I guess) were basically Tomb Kings in space.. Ossiarch Bonereapers in contrast is Necrons in High Fantasy. It's like using google translate several times on the same text back and forth.
Overall, the Tomb Kings look good, hate that they use the Necromancy lore (though, I guess it's closer to death magic.. but still..), sad they removed Destroyer of Eternities, definitely my favorite TK item, though conqueror's blade seems like it has a similar (if less cool) role. Still, not paying three times the price for 20 year old models.. I might pay out for a few ushabti and Settra as I always wanted those.. But not buying the skeletons that were old when TK was released.
14:01 ... "still on 40 by 40 inch bases" ... yeah, not this edition. Maybe when TOW hits 5th or 6th edition though? Bases must go bigger!
I haven't seen the Heirotitan in any lists. Starting to get a bad feeling about that...
No model so it won't exist in the new rules. Shame, but not surprising. Maybe if they find that bone giant replacement that was supposedly made we might get something
@nathanmorrison6590 a lot of the things on the list do not have a model yet so I don't necessarily think that's the reason it's not in the rules. It just tells me it's not coming. Hopefully we do get that updated Bone Giant you mentioned, and not the old metal one again.
@@joelkurowski7129 But the Heirotitan never have a miniature, even when the unit was created on the 8th edition. This also means that the necrolit colossus will be the old bone giant again.
@@corsariosandrorect5238 you're making a massive assumption that they don't have any new miniatures planned. The bone dragon, tomb king, and khatep minis are all new.
@@joelkurowski7129 That is not my intention. I said that there is not the Heirotitan in the list now because there is no oficial miniature. Maybe in the future GW launch the Hierotitan? yes why not. But, at the moment, there is none, so there is not rule.
Basic skeleton warrior/archer is what base size? My ooooooold late 90s skeles are on 20mm squares.
25mm
25mm
25X25mm now.
I have a great way to rebase your skeletons. I'm actually doing it while i m typing.
Basically you take a citadel cutter (which you use to cut the pieces out of the plastic sprews) and cut the sides of the 20x20 base. You are thus not touching the actual upper part of the base and the skeleton is still attached. You then glue this now flat base on top of 25x25 base. Final step is 2 layers of ' technical armageddon dunes' to finish it up and it looks awesome.
If you do it this way, you will not have to change anything about your old models.
In no way do I identify the Tomb Kings as being any more evil than any other faction in Old World and in fact less evil than those listed under forces of fantasy! Evil and Good are a poor choice of expression when the waters of alignment are definitely much more murky!
Lore of Nehekhara has only 3 spells? Good bye, Ptra's Incantation of Righteous Smiting
Tomb Kings!
Tomb king vs priest on the dragon?
Tomb King gives you a tanky, hard hitting beat stick monster, but can't join a unit and convey his precious command bonus.
Priest gives your Hieorophant a good save he otherwise can never get (4+ full plate), -1 to be shot, and mobility of a flying unit (fly 9) so he can position where necessary to cast buffing spells, hexes on enemies, and arise fallen troops.
I think the priest is probably the more synergistic choice, but it depends on your army build.
where is Khalida ? 😢
Still sleeping in her grave. No vampires, no Khalida
Nooo where is arkhan the black..
speak so fast its almost a rap song can tell you dont want to bother...
By contrast, I played this video on 2x speed