Listening to this got my heart really racing. My Son is an international Pilot for Delta. I got a text from him yesterday that said “flying to Amsterdam tomorrow.” I replied like I always do “fly safe, I love you.”
You really should include the other traffic. The Air Canada CRJ that had just taken off Rwy 33, the American Airlines 737 that was departing Rwy 1 and the AA CJR holding Short Rwy 1.
There was another CRJ that landed on runway 1 just ahead of 5342. Tower asked that CRJ if they could accept runway 33 instead, but that pilot declined and landed on runway 1 as planned. If he would have switched to 33 he would have beaten the helo to the spot and landed safely. If he had switched runways, tower wouldn’t have asked 5342 to slip over to 33 and 5342 would have landed safely on runway 1 as planned. It’s gotta tear that other pilot up because I know it has occurred to him. What a horrible and senseless accident. 100% Army’s fault. Why are they conducting extremely difficult training flights at night in a busy approach corridor in the first place? And using night vision technology on top of that? And the sole purpose of this Army unit is to fly pentagon officials around so they don’t have to sit in traffic. They shouldn’t be anywhere near glide slope or localizer signal. It’s infuriating.
ATC Is required by FAA directive to callout a traffic alert once a CA is alarmed on their equipment. ATC had 16 seconds to perform this mandatory scripted callout and did not do it. Asking PAT25 if he sees the CRJ is not the callout requirement. This is a huge fail by ATC. It was a punt to the Army helicopter shifting all responsibility during very windy and nighttime operations.
I have watched this a couple of times, and I realized that PAT25 does not answer the radio 1:59. Am I right to think this? Also on a previous call by tower PAT25 does not answer 1:17. UPDATE: realized PAT25 is responding on a different frequency.
Visual separation during night time around one busiest airspace seems extremely dangerous
Listening to this got my heart really racing. My Son is an international Pilot for Delta. I got a text from him yesterday that said “flying to Amsterdam tomorrow.” I replied like I always do “fly safe, I love you.”
My partner's father flies for Delta too. I always think about him when something like this happens.
You really should include the other traffic. The Air Canada CRJ that had just taken off Rwy 33, the American Airlines 737 that was departing Rwy 1 and the AA CJR holding Short Rwy 1.
There was another CRJ that landed on runway 1 just ahead of 5342. Tower asked that CRJ if they could accept runway 33 instead, but that pilot declined and landed on runway 1 as planned. If he would have switched to 33 he would have beaten the helo to the spot and landed safely. If he had switched runways, tower wouldn’t have asked 5342 to slip over to 33 and 5342 would have landed safely on runway 1 as planned. It’s gotta tear that other pilot up because I know it has occurred to him. What a horrible and senseless accident. 100% Army’s fault. Why are they conducting extremely difficult training flights at night in a busy approach corridor in the first place? And using night vision technology on top of that? And the sole purpose of this Army unit is to fly pentagon officials around so they don’t have to sit in traffic. They shouldn’t be anywhere near glide slope or localizer signal. It’s infuriating.
ATC Is required by FAA directive to callout a traffic alert once a CA is alarmed on their equipment. ATC had 16 seconds to perform this mandatory scripted callout and did not do it. Asking PAT25 if he sees the CRJ is not the callout requirement. This is a huge fail by ATC. It was a punt to the Army helicopter shifting all responsibility during very windy and nighttime operations.
67 souls lost.
Meanwhile I'm incredibly disappointed with our president's responses. Childish, hurtful and cowardly in the face of this tragedy.
Using a tragedy while emotions are high with everyone involved to push his disgusting agenda is truly low, and I thought he couldn't get any worse
Oh geez wtf happened
I have watched this a couple of times, and I realized that PAT25 does not answer the radio 1:59. Am I right to think this? Also on a previous call by tower PAT25 does not answer 1:17.
UPDATE:
realized PAT25 is responding on a different frequency.
Other videos show the altitude readout on the data block.
Is crazy how this incident just happened a day ago and 67 people died 😢