On the Tory lanez situation…he SHOT somebody point blank in a vehicle. That bullet easily could’ve ricocheted and killed one of them. His recklessness has literally no boundaries at the point where he’s willing to discharge a gun intentionally at a woman in a closed vehicle. He absolutely deserves jail time and lots of it, that’s a very violent offense that easily could’ve resulted in death
THANK YOU?!?! Everyone is acting like Megan was way out of line for taking him to court but he literally shot her in a car. That is fact. I don’t understand why people are acting like she’s crazy when anyone in their right mind would do what she did? His fans are demented 😒.
That Stan culture, but I always tell folks you can like an artist, don't be out here doing crazy shit on anybody's behalf because the artist not gone get in trouble because they filthy rich, but you gone have your ass in jail. It's just not Nicki fans the Beehive, Navy, are just as out of control.
Shane Dawson is a good example of this. He knew the power he held with his fandom, and that's why they treat him like a young child with anxiety instead of the weird, inappropriate 40 year old man he is.
Finally someone breaking down how celebrities abuse their power by building these "close" relationships with their fans! The Colleen situation should teach every public figure to set strong boundaries for how they interact with fans.
This is so well said. I think It also breeds this disregard toward victims because Stan’s think they should be grateful because they would do anything to talk to their idol. this Coleen situation is a perfect example of that.
Megan went out of her way to protect Tory in the beginning. People forget that she didn’t put him on trial. If she had it her way, this never would have gone to trial
Coming as a child who did dance shows during ny teens i was nervous performing infront of 100s let alone of 1000s I was super proud of blue and seeing how confidence has grown in every show i know if she choose to get into dance she will have the girls shaking
Not consuming an artist outside of their art is standard operating procedures for me. I have felt like the odd one out all my life because I never knew when albums were dropping, who produced them (like how y'all be knowing producers 😅), who they're dating, who their friends are, their families, their gov names, nothing. And it's not necessarily a lack of care, it's just that the music is usually enough. I began legit stanning an artist for the first time as a whole ass adult - and now I get it. 😂😂 But my habits haven't changed, this artist is an anomaly for me. For everyone else I still just take the music and go. But I still love to get the tea so my salvation is channels like yours ❤😊.
I'm so over the meg thee stallion thing only because there is literally no discussion to be had like...HE DID IT??? he was found GUILTY like conversation OVER. yet ppl be putting everything they have on the line to defend him i DON'T UNDERSTAND
I don’t idolize celebrities anymore. I’m still actively a Stan of a lot of things like kpop for example but 2 things can exist at once I can Stan Kpop groups but also criticize and hold them accountable for their actions. I actually do enjoy being a fan and I use it to cope and distract myself, I’ve been a stan of many things for about 6 years now and I found that I enjoy it more when I do it solo so I don’t really interact with other fans 😂
5:04 already coming in with the t. and i'm here for it! as someone who's been in fandom since puberty, the power imbalance is uncontrollable and even goes past the celebrity. the amount of older stans that have been exposed for grooming is steps above alarming.
I like your pop culture takes bc it just feels like talking to a friend with common sense LOL. I’ve been binging your videos lately like it’s gossip about the neighbors down the street 😂 like yes thank god she broke up with that man, but to be fair, she just got out of 6+ year relationship & he was nearby and at her job… like the context of that makes more sense than all the theories of them being in love and hinting that they were cheating 😀
I always love your commentary Kenya. I think people obsessing over Gabrielle and Dwayne splitting the bills just shows how much of a recession we’re in.
I’m so glad I didn’t unsubscribe! 😁 Good things come to those who wait baby! Glad to see your pop culture takes are back (even if it’s for a short time!)
I think another interesting thing is the person becomes tied to the stans identity. And so they’re defending this person like this person is themselves
So respectfully I am para-social when it comes to you because you, in a big sister little sibling way. A lot of your thoughts I agree with and I feel like we get eachother you being a black woman and me growing up socialized as one. You motivate and teach me in a lot of ways that I be really needing it. You inspired me to study musicians before me to become a better creative and the way you talk about little black girls makes me feel like I have someone in my corner cuz a lot of the time black fems don’t feel love and supported. Thank you and I really do believe in the sentiment we don’t need to be talking about ppl’s body’s real or fake. Everyone is a persona and we need to chill on the shame and judgement we put on eachother. We definitely need to question the content we partake in and how it influences us.
I respect the actress Tracie Thomas (Rent) episode on MTV Catfish. Her and Nev had to check that fan/stan to her face. They did it appropriately but gently. I wish the episode picked up now.
Lmao, I literally ran into someone on Facebook who commented on a photo of Megan Thee Stallion saying "Free Tory" and I asked him what proof they had he was innocent, and they basically said they weren't going to entertain that. So they had no proof. He might have been a Tory stan though, and maybe they thought they were Tory's friend. See, your opinions make me think about stuff like this 🤔
10:56 you are so right! a majority of stans are under 23 they are still super young especially the minors and they should not be responsible for being victim to the power dynamics you were talking about before
i never watching Glee, but i was tuned IN to the glee project. i dont remember a thing its been 10 years, but i remember loving it. so funny i just told a friend about this and i wanna rewatch
I’m so sick of people discussing Meg In relation to Tory as well but the Jackie situation is beyond sad and it just really makes you want to think before you speak on anyone and their situations because you just never know 💔🙏🏽
I also just posted this on your community message but thought I should also post it here for ease. I know I’m late and you’ve already made your thoughts video but if you’re gonna make another one anytime soon then I’m interested to know your opinion on the Netflix show Cleopatra. Are you with/against/neutral on the backlash? Do you think they should have chosen a different Queen to do a story on instead of one already spoken about so often? Do you think the Egyptian response is justified or just filled with ignorance? Genuinely curious of your opinion!
Honey did you see how Nikki Minaj fans and Beyonce fans? And I don't want get into Kpop fans. Those fans act like they know everything and they where there. And they will release and found person information and they don't care really. It's very toxic behavior to do things like that and non of those celebrities ever address their fans.
legally, it's a criminal case. tory lanez vs. state of CALIFORNIA, not a civil tory vs. megan case. megan has no control of how the state chooses to punish him
i know feelings are mixed about little mermaid sequel following the direct to video one but if they do i think blue ivy would be the perfect choice to play melody
The only fandom I’ve been part of was the MJfam (Michael Jackson fandom) and i will say that there were had a lot people trying to keep people in the fandom accountable of their toxicity, there has been problems ( especially about how people talked about his children or ppl that Michael used to know). I never gotten far enough to be blinded by the creators fault.
On the Tory lanez situation…he SHOT somebody point blank in a vehicle. That bullet easily could’ve ricocheted and killed one of them. His recklessness has literally no boundaries at the point where he’s willing to discharge a gun intentionally at a woman in a closed vehicle. He absolutely deserves jail time and lots of it, that’s a very violent offense that easily could’ve resulted in death
THANK YOU?!?!
Everyone is acting like Megan was way out of line for taking him to court but he literally shot her in a car. That is fact. I don’t understand why people are acting like she’s crazy when anyone in their right mind would do what she did? His fans are demented 😒.
I really miss your takes on pop culture on this page. Hope you do more like the new season of selling sunset
Nicki Minaj is actuslly great at sneakily encouraging the barbs to attack people.
Sometimes she directly tells them to.
She is dangerous!!!
She gives them almost-deniable crumbs and it feeds them for years.
Literally, I don’t respect nicki for hella reasons but the stan culture she perpetuates makes her so gross in my eyes
That Stan culture, but I always tell folks you can like an artist, don't be out here doing crazy shit on anybody's behalf because the artist not gone get in trouble because they filthy rich, but you gone have your ass in jail. It's just not Nicki fans the Beehive, Navy, are just as out of control.
Shane Dawson is a good example of this. He knew the power he held with his fandom, and that's why they treat him like a young child with anxiety instead of the weird, inappropriate 40 year old man he is.
Damn we rounding up 34 to 40 now 😮💨
@@whywhowhatwhere I didn't know his exact age. He's a weird, inappropriate *34 year old man. Better? Lol.
@@renetc.I mean, it ain't about 'better', maybe fact check things that take 5 seconds before we post them lol
@@darvelmc9070I mean does it really matter lol.
@@darvelmc9070 It literally doesn't matter.
nicki definatly plays into this with her fandom
Really? That's interesting, explains why barbs are as aggressive as they are
Finally someone breaking down how celebrities abuse their power by building these "close" relationships with their fans! The Colleen situation should teach every public figure to set strong boundaries for how they interact with fans.
This is so well said. I think It also breeds this disregard toward victims because Stan’s think they should be grateful because they would do anything to talk to their idol. this Coleen situation is a perfect example of that.
You all act like she raped him. Wtf
That Adam McIntyre kid totally used that whole situation to build up his drama channel lol he’s calculating asf 🐍🐍🤔🤔
@@ToniCarrington he is a complete 🐍
The Barbz should have opened our eyes.
blue ivy is the coolest kid in this generation fuck the gossip
Absolutely 🤗 . She owned the stage
blue ivy slander has always been crazy cause ppl been hating on her since the literal day she was born?????
i miss this old kenya who drags those problematic influencers 😂
Megan went out of her way to protect Tory in the beginning. People forget that she didn’t put him on trial. If she had it her way, this never would have gone to trial
Coming as a child who did dance shows during ny teens i was nervous performing infront of 100s let alone of 1000s I was super proud of blue and seeing how confidence has grown in every show i know if she choose to get into dance she will have the girls shaking
Imagine if she shocks us with a melodious voice and a rap talent including a dancing talent??
@@sakuraesther6309 OH I SEE THE VISION!!!!!
Doja Cat is my surface level celebrity. Love her music but I’m not trying to see her tweets & lives lol. Keep that shit away from me.
Fandom is not that far removed form a cult
Nicki M dms fans regularly and thats how she has such a strong fandom
Not consuming an artist outside of their art is standard operating procedures for me. I have felt like the odd one out all my life because I never knew when albums were dropping, who produced them (like how y'all be knowing producers 😅), who they're dating, who their friends are, their families, their gov names, nothing. And it's not necessarily a lack of care, it's just that the music is usually enough. I began legit stanning an artist for the first time as a whole ass adult - and now I get it. 😂😂 But my habits haven't changed, this artist is an anomaly for me. For everyone else I still just take the music and go. But I still love to get the tea so my salvation is channels like yours ❤😊.
I'm so over the meg thee stallion thing only because there is literally no discussion to be had like...HE DID IT??? he was found GUILTY like conversation OVER. yet ppl be putting everything they have on the line to defend him i DON'T UNDERSTAND
the cultification of fandom is a slippery slope for sure, it just takes a little nudge to fall over the knife's edge.
When you’re a proud Patreon member so you always hear Kenya’s hot takes 🤭 if you know, you know
Seriously tho Kenya is throwing straight facts at us this shit is accurate
kenya you should make a “history of stan culture” video i feel like you would do so much justice to this topic
I don’t idolize celebrities anymore. I’m still actively a Stan of a lot of things like kpop for example but 2 things can exist at once I can Stan Kpop groups but also criticize and hold them accountable for their actions. I actually do enjoy being a fan and I use it to cope and distract myself, I’ve been a stan of many things for about 6 years now and I found that I enjoy it more when I do it solo so I don’t really interact with other fans 😂
“the root of standom is wanting community” oh you are so wise
I will never forget the first season of the glee project. Those kids literally came off the STREETS and ate the original cast members up.
everyone is talking about the underwear thing in the colleen situation, but the power imbalance and manipulation is probably even more worrying tbh
That Adam McIntyre kid totally used that whole situation to build up his drama channel lol he’s calculating asf 🐍🐍🤔🤔
@@ToniCarrington he's had that channel for a long ass time + he's the victim in this situation. please sit down
i love your rants about anything to be honest!!
5:04 already coming in with the t. and i'm here for it! as someone who's been in fandom since puberty, the power imbalance is uncontrollable and even goes past the celebrity. the amount of older stans that have been exposed for grooming is steps above alarming.
I like your pop culture takes bc it just feels like talking to a friend with common sense LOL. I’ve been binging your videos lately like it’s gossip about the neighbors down the street 😂 like yes thank god she broke up with that man, but to be fair, she just got out of 6+ year relationship & he was nearby and at her job… like the context of that makes more sense than all the theories of them being in love and hinting that they were cheating 😀
The door in the background is so cute w the room color !!
I always love your commentary Kenya. I think people obsessing over Gabrielle and Dwayne splitting the bills just shows how much of a recession we’re in.
“A terrible internet footprint” 😂😂😂
As they say, absolute power corrupts absolutely….
I’m so glad I didn’t unsubscribe! 😁 Good things come to those who wait baby! Glad to see your pop culture takes are back (even if it’s for a short time!)
Great to see you Kenya 💙💙💙
AYYY KENYA W THE KENYA BRACELET 🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪
15:04 people do feel that way. Most people
Don’t care about the harm of black women
I think another interesting thing is the person becomes tied to the stans identity. And so they’re defending this person like this person is themselves
I would've liked it a thousand times. Thank you for articulating your thoughts so well.
i missed these kinda videos from you! always appreciate your take on things
im so happy you bringing this commentary back to the channel !!!
the pink door is so cute!
I wish I was 5% as articulate as you are
So respectfully I am para-social when it comes to you because you, in a big sister little sibling way. A lot of your thoughts I agree with and I feel like we get eachother you being a black woman and me growing up socialized as one. You motivate and teach me in a lot of ways that I be really needing it. You inspired me to study musicians before me to become a better creative and the way you talk about little black girls makes me feel like I have someone in my corner cuz a lot of the time black fems don’t feel love and supported. Thank you and I really do believe in the sentiment we don’t need to be talking about ppl’s body’s real or fake. Everyone is a persona and we need to chill on the shame and judgement we put on eachother. We definitely need to question the content we partake in and how it influences us.
This is the take that makes the most sense to me in this Colleen situation!
I respect the actress Tracie Thomas (Rent) episode on MTV Catfish. Her and Nev had to check that fan/stan to her face. They did it appropriately but gently. I wish the episode picked up now.
Lmao, I literally ran into someone on Facebook who commented on a photo of Megan Thee Stallion saying "Free Tory" and I asked him what proof they had he was innocent, and they basically said they weren't going to entertain that. So they had no proof. He might have been a Tory stan though, and maybe they thought they were Tory's friend. See, your opinions make me think about stuff like this 🤔
Yessss blue ivy! Perfection!
"YOU ARE STUTTERING" fucking preach baby!!
life is worth living again😍😍😍😍😍
10:56 you are so right! a majority of stans are under 23 they are still super young especially the minors and they should not be responsible for being victim to the power dynamics you were talking about before
Spitting facts about Megan antis!
U should write a book on stan culture
KENYA! Where is that yoot (youth) reference from? Dying laughing from that
i never watching Glee, but i was tuned IN to the glee project. i dont remember a thing its been 10 years, but i remember loving it. so funny i just told a friend about this and i wanna rewatch
Kenya just has the best takes
Ahhhhhhh so glad this isn’t a 3 min teaser thank you!
Your Obama phones. I died.
I found as told by kenya from her first reading of colleen and I cant believe this is happening again!!!!
sadly you're right
I'm in a constant state of disappointed but not surprised
Omg i LOOOVE this style of video from you! Keep the rambling coming!
More videos like this if you can please !!!! Feels like I’m chatting with a friend
oh thats ironic lol
Great video on stan culture! You are spitting factss
Baby!!! I needed this! I watch you on Patreon but I need a dose of Kenya . I hope you enjoyed Africa
are we back to 2018-2019 kenya? ❤
this is giving amandabb’s “everything is bothering me” and i’m here for it 😋
Sooooooo excited for this series!
I’m so sick of people discussing Meg In relation to Tory as well but the Jackie situation is beyond sad and it just really makes you want to think before you speak on anyone and their situations because you just never know 💔🙏🏽
Love when u do this type of commentary 🌸💕
Hi Kenya! I haven't had time to watch you in awhile and i see you are wearing a lovely engagement ring ! Congratulations 🎉❤
Yeeeeeeee so excited for Kenya
Hi Kenya keep this up I love these videos and your inputs!
6:46, Chris brown, r Kelly, etc.
oh im sat
I also just posted this on your community message but thought I should also post it here for ease.
I know I’m late and you’ve already made your thoughts video but if you’re gonna make another one anytime soon then I’m interested to know your opinion on the Netflix show Cleopatra.
Are you with/against/neutral on the backlash?
Do you think they should have chosen a different Queen to do a story on instead of one already spoken about so often?
Do you think the Egyptian response is justified or just filled with ignorance?
Genuinely curious of your opinion!
they acting like meg is choosing the sentence dude serves… people are crazy
I missed these! I would love to see you cover the new season of selling sunset and your thoughts on this submarine story
Honey did you see how Nikki Minaj fans and Beyonce fans? And I don't want get into Kpop fans. Those fans act like they know everything and they where there. And they will release and found person information and they don't care really. It's very toxic behavior to do things like that and non of those celebrities ever address their fans.
Kenya’s apart of the Beyhive lol
@@CC-rm9uqyea but she’s not weird and is actually grown
i liked miranda sings like 8 or 9 years ago but i feel like she just overstayed her welcome
A lot of these artist be friends with bloggers and be having them on payroll to do their bidding.
Im glad that youre also a Suzan Lori Parks fan!!!! Yes! Top Dog Underdog is sooooo goood!
oh the glee project was peak television
legally, it's a criminal case. tory lanez vs. state of CALIFORNIA, not a civil tory vs. megan case. megan has no control of how the state chooses to punish him
Thank you for sharing
Kenya has thoughts!!!
Kenya i would love to hear your thoughts on the recent movie swarm!!!
missed your commentary on youtube
All I could think about was Nicki and the Barbz when Kenya was talking about toxic stans
Needed thissss
To a degree this extends to Selena and Yolanda too 😕
i know feelings are mixed about little mermaid sequel following the direct to video one but if they do i think blue ivy would be the perfect choice to play melody
❤ Kenyaaaaa!! ❤
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The gag is qaadir howard told the girls about that whole click before
YUPPPPP
OMG UR BACK
The only fandom I’ve been part of was the MJfam (Michael Jackson fandom) and i will say that there were had a lot people trying to keep people in the fandom accountable of their toxicity, there has been problems ( especially about how people talked about his children or ppl that Michael used to know). I never gotten far enough to be blinded by the creators fault.
When she posting on patreon? like
And Miranda Sings aint that even funny. 🤮
🖤🖤🖤🖤
Alex Newell uses they/them pronouns!
Pleaseeeeeee make time stamps for your video and the different topics