Feminist Blogger Believes Trans-Women Aren't Real Women | This Morning
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Ruth & Eamonn are joined by Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull, a feminist blogger who believes the word "woman" is disappearing and that trans-women aren't real females. They're also joined by India Willoughby, a trans-woman who campaigns for trans rights, and claims Kellie-Jay's actions are harmful.
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Why are India's feelings more important than real women's feelings?
because he's the tran and he wants everything his way
Because this is the arrogance and belief of so many trans people, that no one matters as much as they do, or their feelings.
feelings? Feelings are precisely what we must *not* use to discern truth from falsehood.
Because the vast majority of them have a narcissistic personality disorder as well as other mental issues. You can’t have a rational conversation with an irrational minded person who lives in cloud cuckoo land. These presenters should be ashamed of themselves for ignoring the elephant in the room…..the man dressed as a woman.
Nobody's opinion is more important than anyone else's, and generally no matter what people think of you is NONE of your business
Disagreeing doesn't mean hating or harming
Apparently it does, you have to like something someone else likes otherwise it’s hateful and violent 😂
How do you "disagree" with BIOLOGY & who popped Jonathan out?
Not for the wokees.
It does the identity politic wokesters, who believe that any kind of disagreeing on their belief system means that the person who disagrees automatically contributes to the upholding of the "hateful and harming systems" of the Western world (by that the wokesters mean anything created by "cis-gended" heterosexual white people). The transgender movement has almost completely embraced identity politics during the past decade or so, which has harmed the transgender movement a lot.
It does to the left.
The way they are gaslighting Kellie-Jay in plain sight, saying that she's angry, when she is stating her point very level-headedly & respectably. Yikes!
Well said. Have to admire her tenacity despite the passive-aggressive interviewing.
@@oliviastar3812 Absolutely.
When they started saying, "chest feeding" and "pregnant person", I woke up. Something isn´t right here! We need to stand up for womanhood.
"Each time a woman stands up for herself she stands up for all women." Woman means an adult female human being....period!!! Godspeed Kelly.
Even the woke woman host will not defend her own gender....
Ahhhh, but if you're trans, you can have the woman minus the period...! (sorry, couldn't resist! It's such an idiotic argument... Can we just agree, there are girls, boys and hairdressers...?! 🤣
That woke host woman is a liar, especially when she said "the people seem to be embracing the word woman as well". The problem is when Trans woman want to be woman as well, but Trans woman will always be trans woman. The vast majority of the public would not agree with that woman host.
It means a human being possessing xx chromosomes as opposed to the nly other combination - xy. the two cannot be mixed.
@@robertcolfack26
She’s allowed to have an opinion regardless of the opinions of other women in her “gender,” women are not a monolith Robert.
Just because she’s Pro-Women doesn’t mean she’s transphobic.
Everybody took what she said made a twist and ran with it.
Even if she is transphobic, so.
@@michaelmcgee335 Reality. NOT PHOBIC
@@bigmikeobama624 Yes but she doesn’t like trans people and fair enough.
No one is transphobic. What does phobia mean? An irrational fear. Well, this isn't irrational fear. It's rational. Men are wanting to invade our spaces, make us more unsafe. Women are unsafe enough as it is. And they want to take our trophies, we won't be able to do sports anylonger.
You can’t be transphobic because Trans isn’t a real thing, it’s just people cosplaying as something they aren’t.
They always say “why do you care” “why is that your business” “how does that affect your life” it’s gaslighting
When someone like India argues the toss then it affects everyone.
Exactly it has massive complications to society as a whole and if we accept one nans delusion then we must accept them all and we must not do that.
That’s not gaslighting…
It's a fair question
@@calisongbird Yes it is. They're trying to deflect from the actual issue and make the only sane and sensible person feel crazy for asking in the first place. Classic gaslighting. The nuts on the left are adept at this.
Amazing that trans people say they're being picked on but this looks like bullying a woman with common sense here. Good on Kel, not backing down.
Strange times we live in where the "victims" seem to have all the power.
If cis women want to make cisgender-only spaces, fine. Great.
They didn't make these spaces they're trying to deny to transgender women, and most of normal and rational women don't mind sharing them with their trans sisters. It's just as much their space as it is anyone else's, which gives them the right to open it up. If bigots don't like that, they can find their own space.
Most cisgender women have no problem with transgender women.
@@smokexsmoke99 they are not our sisters. make your own spaces where you understand each other. It is matter of respect. And we not feel safe with tras....is not just about your feeling. Make you own spaces. Problem solve.
@@CorinaTamez-Hibbard Turns out rapists don’t need a disguise or an elaborate plot to get into the bathrooms.
This woman has balls of steel. She knows that her position is the correct one, and she refuses to be bullied into changing her mind. If only our leaders had this level of integrity.
@ John Boggs .... Not Having A Go But "Balls Of Steel" 😄
Com'on Couldn't You Have Found A Better Phrase Under The Circumstances.
@@davidc4871 truth lol.
Betty White quoted that Balls are weak and sensitive so this woman has a vagina of steel
Absolutely true , you aren't a woman and never will be .
*spine.
Truly, Kelli-Jay Keen was standing her ground with such clear answers against presenters who were constantly appealing to emotion.
"Feminist Blogger Believes Trans-Women Aren't Real Women",...
And so does everybody else.
So why are Western governments so interested in trans rights and so keen on calling objections “hate”? Cripes, as a woman I’m concerned over safety.
@@annabodot962 Because all of these are working in goverment
3 against 1 is hardly an even discussion.
What is the ratio of women:trans in the real world? Nowhere near 3:1 & since when is human biology up for "discussion"?
@@unowen-nh9ov seriously
“No because then it wouldn’t be a woman’s refuge would it?” That is brutal!! Accurate, true, but just brutal.
In four years, everything she warned about has come true- and more.
The world has gone mad.
The world is getting better everyday !
@@Gazzapa57 The world is getting better every day for crazy people because crazy people find it increasingly easy to fit in.
@@Gazzapa57 well garry q you are completely a misogynistic person if that is what you feel...don't figure you are a guy after all. Well done.
@Organic Elephant Maybe yours isn't as you are hater.
Women and strong men must push back against this lunacy and we can't allow these woke lunatics to change the meaning of womanhood and call us cis or anything else... Even the woman host will not defend her own gender what a disgrace....
"My sister sees me as a sister." No she doesn't, mate. She's just being nice.
She had to see him as a sister because it is what he demanded of them. It wasn’t his sisters idea. You are so right.
These 'transgender women' are really twisted people in my opinion. I bet he tries to trick men. This affects EVERYONE and is infuriating.
That's the game. If people are too nice and won't call out a mental illness for what it is, then they will continue with their nonsense. What we permit, we promote.
@@mariadejucilene7659 …obviously? and it’s something she likely asked her to do….this wasn’t a revelation.
That is the core of the problem. We were way to nice as usual and called them what they wanted and treated them as such. We never really believed that they really ARE that
So if a man feels like he is a 12yr old girl and wants to attend school with girls of his identified age, its ok?
Sadly, yes. Look up Nicholas Cepeda (aka melody wiseheart).
Kellie-Jay 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Three people trying to make her look bad, putting words in her mouth that she didn't say, attaching her directly, not allowing her to explain, but still, she is there trying to speak and defends women's right! 👏👏👏👏👏 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Oh look at that. Two men keep interrupting her to silence her.
Actually India is a woman just to clarify your ignorance
@@andreadeans2520 she is not ignorant she is correct facts are more important than feelings
@@uneenfantdumonde6085 not feelings, human rights
@@andreadeans2520 define the term "woman"
@@andreadeans2520 India is a dude! He was born a man. Can Usain Bolt tomorrow identify himself as a woman and get into the women’s athletics? Care to comment?
Transwomen are not women. I'll die on this hill.
I’m about there myself.
Someday people will see the truth.
This should be called “Sane woman does interview”
She gave a perfect example of why and they completely ignored her
"They" as in India or "they" as in the collective people on the panel? Actually asking.
@@theesecretchannelthey as a whole we don't indulge in this trans rhetoric of they as they is plural
@@kerryprice1414 I actually didn't know if he meant India ignored her or the whole panel. That's why I asked.
India says her being called a woman doesn't affect anyone, but it literally changes the definition and law for the entire gender! This is a really ego-centric view, that everyone else must change their reality to suit the individual's make-believe.
You screen name is Haute Doctor but to me you look like Bullwhip Jones - I will now call you that for I have zero respect for your name - it doesn't suit you - you don't look like it so dont expect me to call you that. Can you see my point Einstein ?
Please people , dont call sick delusional men in wig as woman
So well said! These trans men are totally self-absorbed.
@@readingoutpost4545 What the F would you know - you probably don’t even know one RUclips cowboy !
Exactly. If India still had her penis and India went to prison, would “she” go to male or female prison?
And still he can't answer what "living as a woman" means?
Thank you Kellie-Jay, you are amazing!
He means wearing dresses and make up, I guess.
Exactly 💯, spot on !I love that dudes gaslighting !what do you want to happen to me shave my head ? Being a woman doesn't just mean having long hair and wearing a dress it's about dna and chromosones so ........
Three against one and she still won what a brave woman.
Keep going Kelly, standing with you all the way 💜 sending love from South Yorkshire 🇬🇧
Kelly is absolutely correct. And it’s gotten worse.
this other mans a transvestite
What she doesn't understand is that feminism WAS designed by the most perverted assholes on earth TO SERVE AS A TROJAN HORSE THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO INSERT ALL THE LGBT+ PERVERSIONS AND ABERRATIONS INTO SOCIETY AND DESTROY TRADITIONAL MEN, WOMEN AND FAMILIES.
The problem is these woke lunatic host even the woman host will not defend her own gender this world has gone crazy.....
We're so fucked lol
does the fake woman have a c.o.c.k still? then get it removed first off
As a man I agree with her 100% . This nonsense is getting out of control and is worse now from when this video came out.
As a man I can tell you that feminists never cared about men, they are the reason that we are in this mess, this progressive woke madness started with THEM, they dint care when lgbt affected men, when men and boys were ridiculed and humiliated in ads in society, TV, media, when men where and still are @ss raped in divorce court, when they are shown mens su1icie rates, they care not YOU or I, only now that women are being thrashed by men they care, no man should care about feminists, let them be thrashed by Trans men
As a man your opinion is invalid.
@@harrydrinkwater7315😅😅😅
@harrydrinkwater7315 cmon we are all men here😅
@@harrydrinkwater7315I'll take times nobody asked for 400 alex
No matter how I feel about myself, I cannot force the society to indulge in my delusion. Well said!
What is the treatment for Gender Dysphoria?
@@ajaycyriljose9419 Acceptance
Sooooo.... what do they mean "believes they aren't women"... they aren't.
This woman should be praised for standing up for what’s right.
I miss the day where it was common sense to say men can't be women
Sadly and terrifyingly it was not that long ago. This thing ballooned during lockdown it would seem, it’s like the zombie apocalypse, now known as the Trans apocalypse!
Haaa a few bad periods, lower pay than men, giving birth AND raising kids while the bloke was playing away…..I’m sorry I wasn’t born a man, but it’s ludicrous I can just wake up tomorrow and state I AM A MAN and anyone takes me seriously and doesn’t cart me off to the funny farm……total fruit loops.
Can I still call myself a man but wear a dress and use tampons? PLEASE HELP ME IM CONFUSED……..maybe confused is a gender…….?????? FARCE.
or visverser!
Ah remember the days when you could say "nobody is transitioning on a whim, those were the good old days.
Thank you kelly for standing up for women
As a man, I agree.
The fact that this woman is seen as the crazy one is exactly what is wrong today
She is absolutely right! It’s not transphobia! This is getting worse by the day!!! Let trans women live in peace but do not give them rights that put women in danger. We are losing our rights to men because of feelings…
I agree they can have their own toilets, their own spaces, even their own Olympic games! just keep out of woman spaces and leave our language alone trans people.
Exactly! Give them their own bathrooms, own sports, own locker rooms etc. Just don’t mix them with women’s bathrooms, women’s sports and women’s locker rooms!
It IS Transphobia
@@finleyplymptonwomp womp
Yep she’s right. Anyone who disagrees is TRUTHPHOBIC
Kelly-Jay is 100% right, massive respect for her standing up the way she has. She's a brave and beautiful woman
tell me about it
Crazy how the man is like "why don't you want this trans person to come into your female spaces, when he sees himself as a woman? :(" For the same reason we don't let in grown men into our kindergartens just because they see themselves as children.
I'm a little late to the party, but agreed!
Eamonn saying “as a man…” and not seeing the irony when talking to a woman, Kellie, who is complaining about men who claim to be women demanding access to hard-won women’s rights and women-only spaces. It is Eamonn’s - and other men’s - entitlement which is a major part of the problem in this whole issue. We all need to be speaking up on this BS!
100% ironic
You're absolutely correct they're not women, and it's time that women stand up and stop taking this crap
India represents a very small percentage of people. Why must we all change our minds and language to fit their fantasy
Perhaps "tiny" or "miniscule" might be more descriptive? 😄😏
Trans knows no trend and no nationality, it is a human condition you cannot explain.
There is nothing wrong with being a man, there is nothing wrong with being a woman, so tell me why you care?
India is about 1/5th the world's population. Not that small.
@@malvolio01 was about to go crazy with my answer, then understood what you did there😅
@@malvolio01 That is false. The highest number of them are in the United States (where I live), and they are less than 0.001%.
Just because you BELIEEEEEEVVVEE something, doesn't make it true.
doesn't make it false either
@@markdelavega4953 in thos case ot does.
@@carmanbrewster6410 Just because you say "ot does" doesn't make it true :)
He's a man. Period.
@@carmanbrewster6410 couldn't agree more to that...
We don’t indulge anorexics. Why should we indulge body dysmorphia?
The world has absolutely gone insane. Painting your Tesla red doesn't make it a ferrari.. its a red Tesla with a firmware issue.
It’s illogical to ask her what it’s like to live as a woman because he does not know and never will know
He MUST know, he puts on make up, lipstick a dress , high heels, sexy undies... OH sorry that is a cross dresser sorry GR for the confusion my bad...
@@Wairoa4ever
Exactly Dress Up is certainly not a Natural Wombans Priorities…because we don’t need to to be a Womban.
❤
This man may wear a dress and heel and makeup, but he will never know what it's like to be a real woman! It can't have kids like a female does, it will never breastfeed a child like a woman does. It will never bleed once a month like a real woman does.
In the heart land of America we know what a woman is too bad the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand don't because they are erasing women from society and it's a disgrace.... People of common sense must get their voices and say no to this insanity....
Man - adult male
Woman -adult female
Argument done
This gal was ahead of the curve in seeing how insane things were heading.
She flamed the crap out of 3 of all them. 😂
Woman: It's wrong to mutilate a child.
Trans: Why is that your business?
Yet we allow circumcision
@@ajaycyriljose9419 Also mutilation and we should stop the practice, unless and until the child turns 18 and wants it.
@@thedancingveganatheist6310 You know Jews would be against that right?
She definitely stood her ground. I absolutely agree 💯
I can't believe even the woman host will not defend her own gender what a disgrace....
Kelly demolished all the resistance and arguments in the studio as a woman.
@@robertcolfack26 she likes having a job too much. Her hands and wages are tied
@@robertcolfack26 Supposed to be impartial being a TV host,what she think's off camera is another matter...
This is exactly how it needs to go. She’s answering directly to the point. No stuttering. No care of hurting feelings. That’s what is needed desperately now.
So she has to empathize, but the trans woman doesn't?
bingo
Exactly
Kelly doesn't believe, she knows it as it is a fact.
Kelly demolished all the studio arguments so easilym
@@meisievannancy and that's why they cut this video short because she was demolishing their arguments
And that's it, the difference between belief/opinion and fact.
Three against one, Kelly is absolutely right.
If you cut the goolies off a male dog he is still a male dog....
The way they are trying to gaslight her oh my God
They would NOT let her speak and that’s horrible journalism
Kellie is right. It's not debatable.
“You’re making the word exclusive”. The whole point of words are they’re are exclusive. Men cannot be women. End of.
Feminist blogger KNOWS trans-women aren't real women, is what this should be called
This insanity needs to stop for the future generations.
We need to stop it now!
Agreed. Gender Dysphoria is spreading because of the indoctrination on children. Children are very vulnerable to traumas due to their brain is still forming and developing. And we also need to acknowledge that you can be a woman and be interested in cars and action figures and you can be a man who is interested in aesthetics and fashion.
I think it's a trojan horse decades in the making. I'm hoping it'll destabilise itself and implode due to a rational backlash, but one thing seems certain that at least for now, the movement has become so institutionalised, that it will be years before people realise the damage. Our resistance is so important ❤
@@deusdedit9- 💯 agree
Somehow, I've received a post from Mermaids on Facebook/Meta concerning the bullying of children and their gender choices. I remarked that this issue shouldn't be on their immature minds. Someone, don't know who, posted a laughing emoji. Makes one wonder about the sanity of some of these people if they think that's ok.
If you’ve got a Y CHROMOSOME, you’re not a woman………nuff said.
Why are we mainstreaming delusion?
I love how they're supporting the biologically man
We need more people like Kelly
Hooray for Kelly!
Absolutely!! The REAL women of the world need to stand right by her side.
No we don't
Yes we do
@@GoldenLion2004 ehh yea we do
Kellie-Jay is such a knowledgeable and powerful woman! She is a legend! ♀️
Trans women are biologically men
The trans woman contradicts herself saying her life is great and then later says what a struggle to be trans.
Bloke. The bloke.
himself and his
To the point "Raise your own money and make your own refuge"
a gang of bullies against a woman
Kellie, thank you for standing up for the rights of women. 💕💕💕
I'm a woman..in the original sense and I feel so disrespected when this community tries to mislabel that journey. Born with eggs and ovaries, formed breast, gave birth numerous times, lost a child- and someone who wants to disregard that and try to mimic the process by man made means is fuckin nuts. You can't replicate the woman's journey.
Then please also exclude hysterectomized and sterile women from your category then.
@@ajaycyriljose9419 She doesn't have to, because a woman is an adult human female.
We support you Kelly. Thank you for being voices for many. I wish she would of had equal people that agreed with her on the platform. I feel like their attacking her. Can't force people to change what they believe is truth.
There was a time when sensible not sell out leftists hosted shows on the side of common sense. What's happened? Trans people rose to stop bullying and yet they do exactly that to people trying to fight for normality!
These people are ridiculous and unprofessional…. forcing Kellie Jay-Keen to acknowledge the derange feelings of this man, India is a man, born a boy, and will die an old man.
They are trying to bully her into agreeing with them! This people's agenda is wide open, we women will never go along with this madness. I fully support Kellie J Keen.
I can't believe that we are having a debate about the obvious.
What is this world coming to?
Go Kellie-Jay. Adult human female
Everyone is so afraid to speak up. Does the trans woman have periods? Menopause? Or just feel good dressing up in womans clothes. There's more to being a woman than that!.
They pretend to and do videos about it.
Absolutely agree with Kelly India may have had surgery BUT he/she is still biologically a MAN.. I HATE the way this programme has OBVIOUSLY taken sides here... Kelly was being BULLIED here WOMEN should not have to be fighting for their god given gender
It doesn’t matter what you believe, it is what you are
3 vs 1 and Kellie-Jay made concise arguments, never crumbled under pressure.
WOMAN = an adult person who has XX chromosomes in every cell of their body
I totally agree with kelly she is a very brave woman. What a horrible interview she was outnumbered and she was the only one who spoke the truth
. Thank God for Kelly
The notion that a trans woman is a real woman is clearly ridiculous.
I will respect them if they acknowledge they are trans women.
If they demand I view them as real women, then I don't even have to like them.
I wouldn't call them trans women. I think trans is acceptable.
Thank you British woman for standing up for actual women!
These presenters are goddamn insane. They’re not listening to a word Kelly’s saying. It’s crazy-making.
This is Kelly vs a bunch of spineless people who have sold out. They know deep down that all this stuff is absolute madness
Kelly isn’t angry, you are. He isn’t a woman end of !!!
Kellie-Jay spoke so well. Eamonn and Ruth were so biased against her. It wasn't a fair interview. But she remained calm, and didn't back down.
That’s correct. Trans women are not actually women
They aren't real women.
No trans are not real woman and they shouldn't be using our language.
True.
You don't have to say "real" women. They are not women.
and never will be!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its a other form of misogyny. Do you hear about trans men ? No you dont.
Yes, trans movement = misogyny.
Are "trans men" endangering the safety of actual men? No.
The hosts were total cowards. The male host in particular was not buying any of this bs, but was too castrated to say anything about it. The other man, India, was posing as a victim when we know what a vile misogynist he is. KJ Queen was brilliant and stood up to three bullies who did not have one rational argument between them.
Trans women aren’t women.
Posie keeps getting interrupted and they don’t answer her questions and counter points. In an age where feelings is the only thing that matters they don’t seem to care about hers
3 on 1 ! Plain and simple attempt to BULLY Kelly.
Kellie-Jay was as brilliant then as she is now!! She was and is so right!! Thank you Kellie x
Because you feel like a woman doesn’t make you one. Feeling don’t override fact.
What does living as a woman mean? Excellent question that gets no answer. "Woman" is not a way of life!
Not sure if this was suppose to be a balanced discussion, instead it appeared to be a passive/aggressive attack on Kelly’s views and fighting for biological female rights. The presenters appear to be making it personal about India. Where was the balance and discussion.
Yes, and India does not represent all trans which he was trying to make out that he does
The BBC isn't balanced. People should stop funding them.
It's all about feelings and totally ignores reality. Thank you Kelly-Jay for standing up against these liars.
Wow, they're verbally bullying Kelley-Jay. They want her to listen but won't listen to her.
I can't believe I (as a former woke person) hated Kelly and her views. I just shut down the truth and went along with pure delusions. I'm so happy I've been educated and I'm able to see sense. Kelly is absolutely correct and I'm so happy she is a wonderful spokesperson for us real women.
@William Braddell I think for me, I just supported those who wanted to identify with whatever they wanted. I thought I was being encouraging and felt somewhat good about myself not realising I was just being harmful. But despite being a trans ally, there were still narcissistic tendencies thinking “I’m a good person for this” etc. You’re completely blind to the truth.
I hope this kind of answers your question from a former woke supporters view.
I agree as a former woke person. because I've been there it ain't pretty I want to empathize with everybody.
What woke me up to the truth (No pun intended) is the whole lia thomas situation which is a reprehensible case of entitlement narcissitic and selfishness. that even I can agree what she did is not fair
I work for a disability rights organization in the U.S.that is aligned with the trans movement due to so-called issues of intersectionality. I completely agree with Kelly, but if I were to express these opinions on my job, I’d be marked as a pariah and a bigot unfortunately.
Please don't say you got 'educated'. It's meaningless woke speak. However since you are yourself ex-woke maybe it still comes to you naturally.
@@altudy How is it meaningless woke speak? 😂
Kelly, telling them the emperor had no clothes. Her courage is amazing.
These presenters did very well to remain neutral during this conversation ... not.
Why is this even a discussion? World has gone mental.