VIDEO CORRECTION NOTE: You are bringing up a good point. PLEASE NOTE: I was getting 150-175 MPG exploring trails, fire roads doing 30-45mph with only a fire Freddy or Hacienda Gabe riding with me. I have learned over my other bike review videos I am getting better MPG then viewers. 1. I think riding with a gang of buddies makes us all ride the bikes harder. 2. lots of Highway would make this CRF450L get more like 110-135MPG. I DO THINK THIS BIKE NEEDS AN OVERSIZED TANK but that being said when I filled up at mile 160 I looked into my tank and I guessed on the 200 mpg possibility. I think I need to start giving MPG in HARD miles as well, thanks @zfastjoe for bringing this up.
@@bermcannonk Thank you for replying and clearing this up (sort of...lol) When I first read this, I fell on the floor. Then I can see that you wrote "mpg" in place of "range" or "mpt" (miles per tank). Now I can get what you're saying..bahaha! Thanks again.
I’ve put the 20l nomad tank on mine - fits like a button and gives me incredible range. That alongside a votex ecu and yoshi and you’ve got yourself the best dual sport on the planet!
I was a bit disappointed in mine in stock trim, specifically the way it ran. Sputtered and stalled on me a few times.... fueling was pretty bad, probably because of emissions. I heard they may have fixed that on the 2021's with some ECU changes. I tricked mine out with some bits from SRmoto and it's really changed the bike. Vortex ECU and Yoshimura exhaust made it run the way it should. It's way more bike than what I can handle. The KTM honks will say it's no KTM, but I'm no pro rider and this Honda suits my riding ability just fine.
That’s really weird that your bike was running like that..... the 2019 crf450l i rode last year was pretty good as well. I’m pretty excited to try one that is kind of tricked out.
I bought the Vortex and kept my stock pipe to keep it low profile. It's never going to have perfect low speed throttle pickup, but it is manageable. It also has enough power to keep up with LA traffic on the freeway. That is a lot to ask of a any bike. Most of the rider needs can be addressed in the aftermarket.
A lot of guys have the idle set way too low. Get that idle up to 1800-2000 rpm's and it'll help with the low speed stalling. '19-20 models will only benefit in terms of the fueling with the addition of a Vortex ECU. We have yet to see if the updated ECU on the new 2021 models has any benefit in that regard.
Good video! I’m still considering purchasing the crf450l. Just bought a left over new 2019 MT 09; deal was too good to pass up. Now I’m looking for a dual sport to add to my stable. I test rode a 2019 450l last year and didn’t experience any issues with stalling and such. I’m interested in seeing how the changes Honda made to the 2021 ecu effects the issues that people have been complaining about. Not sure if I like the all red plastics on the upcoming 2021 model but I’ll have to see it in person before I can make judgements.
On the Mammoth Lakes part two video did you catch any fish on the Owens river? That is the perfect place for a Tenkara fly fishing rod. Next month I’m riding from Prim Nevada to lone Pine California on the California BDR. I ride a 2019 450 L. I call her red horse. Thanks for the videos.
I have the 2019 and love it. I put supermoto wheels on it for the summer since it was too damn hot to ride in the desert! It’s a hoot to ride in either guise. Only complaint is the jerky throttle but a Vortex is a bit too pricey...
Buy direct from Vortex out of Australia, you'll save some currently with the lower AUD. It's a one time purchase, it sucks to drop that much coin but the improved performance all around will help you to forget about that money in short order.
So is this your xr650r replacement? I'm on the fence about selling my xr650r. I think its time to move on and get something more user friendly with the magic button and fuel injection.
we all know that Honda need a bike like ktm 690 or husky 701!!! im glad to have a 650R and the day i sell it, its gonna be when honda release a new bike (we all know that 650L its the same from the 90's)
My local Honda dealer told me Honda are discontinuing the 450L. I was considering getting the new model but apparently they aren’t going to make anymore 450Ls into the future???
I highly doubt this after they updated the ECU, plastics, and renamed it for the 2021 model year. They wouldn't have gone to that trouble if they were going to nix this bike. For 2021 it is now known as the 450RL, maybe your dealer is confusing the lack of the original 450L moniker with it no longer being made. I'd take the info you get from your dealer with a grain of salt.
Tex Lee, I asked the same dealer about the 450RL, and he said its all over. I guess we will just have to wait and see if Honda actually deliver these 450RLs to the showroom floor. They certainly won’t be available in the next few months.
@@glossblack1098 My local dealer expects the 2021 450RL this week, so who knows. I am not saying that your dealer is wrong, it just seems highly unlikely. That said, the European guys have made comments about Honda suspending sales there due to low sales numbers. That can most likely be tied to the lower horse power version over there.
@@bermcannonk After a while the suspension felt really soft, it probably needed upgrading. I got tired of the jerky throttle it was tedious on tight twisty trails. The spokes and the alloy was corroding quite quickly and I had to spend out to get it to the 45hp. Nice bike but I will stick to the 650R, with electric start soon. 👍
Wow, Back to the XR !!!! You know the jerky throttle is borderline for me I seem to get used to the more I rode it. You were not the first one to complain about that.
@@bermcannonk I know, I guess the good thing is that I paid alot less as it sat in the showroom. Again things have to change so it is inevitable that parts are harder to find for the XR, but also the prices of the Brp seem steady and sometimes very high. Its a shame as Honda could have had an amazing bike with the Crf, this is the bike they should have bought out a while ago, and kept the Xr650 updated with electric start and fuel injection. 👍
Did you say that you got 160 to 200 miles per that 2 gallon tank? Is your odometer set to k/m by mistake?....lol. That's 100 mpg
VIDEO CORRECTION NOTE: You are bringing up a good point. PLEASE NOTE: I was getting 150-175 MPG exploring trails, fire roads doing 30-45mph with only a fire Freddy or Hacienda Gabe riding with me. I have learned over my other bike review videos I am getting better MPG then viewers. 1. I think riding with a gang of buddies makes us all ride the bikes harder. 2. lots of Highway would make this CRF450L get more like 110-135MPG. I DO THINK THIS BIKE NEEDS AN OVERSIZED TANK but that being said when I filled up at mile 160 I looked into my tank and I guessed on the 200 mpg possibility. I think I need to start giving MPG in HARD miles as well, thanks @zfastjoe for bringing this up.
@@bermcannonk Thank you for replying and clearing this up (sort of...lol) When I first read this, I fell on the floor. Then I can see that you wrote "mpg" in place of "range" or "mpt" (miles per tank). Now I can get what you're saying..bahaha! Thanks again.
zfastjoe just remember I am a youtuber just a dipshit riding motorcycles 😁
I’ve put the 20l nomad tank on mine - fits like a button and gives me incredible range. That alongside a votex ecu and yoshi and you’ve got yourself the best dual sport on the planet!
@@blackpearlpastoral 20l! I have to look that one up. I didn't know they made one that big.
Good to see you again Mark. Thanks for letting us live vicariously through your videos.
Thx Luke for watching 🤙🏻
i seen that bike ripping in a motocross track like any other sx 450... great do it all bike, great video señor mark
I was a bit disappointed in mine in stock trim, specifically the way it ran. Sputtered and stalled on me a few times.... fueling was pretty bad, probably because of emissions. I heard they may have fixed that on the 2021's with some ECU changes. I tricked mine out with some bits from SRmoto and it's really changed the bike. Vortex ECU and Yoshimura exhaust made it run the way it should. It's way more bike than what I can handle. The KTM honks will say it's no KTM, but I'm no pro rider and this Honda suits my riding ability just fine.
That’s really weird that your bike was running like that..... the 2019 crf450l i rode last year was pretty good as well. I’m pretty excited to try one that is kind of tricked out.
I bought the Vortex and kept my stock pipe to keep it low profile. It's never going to have perfect low speed throttle pickup, but it is manageable. It also has enough power to keep up with LA traffic on the freeway. That is a lot to ask of a any bike. Most of the rider needs can be addressed in the aftermarket.
A lot of guys have the idle set way too low. Get that idle up to 1800-2000 rpm's and it'll help with the low speed stalling. '19-20 models will only benefit in terms of the fueling with the addition of a Vortex ECU. We have yet to see if the updated ECU on the new 2021 models has any benefit in that regard.
After 1200ish miles mine got alot better but didn't think it was bad from the get-go.
Good video! I’m still considering purchasing the crf450l. Just bought a left over new 2019 MT 09; deal was too good to pass up. Now I’m looking for a dual sport to add to my stable. I test rode a 2019 450l last year and didn’t experience any issues with stalling and such. I’m interested in seeing how the changes Honda made to the 2021 ecu effects the issues that people have been complaining about. Not sure if I like the all red plastics on the upcoming 2021 model but I’ll have to see it in person before I can make judgements.
Yes
It is nice to see your comment here. I will own these bike in the future and you helped me decide. Thank you !
@@fcalin21 you're welcome!
Man I have been using LA Sleeve for 30+ years! They are THE best!
On the Mammoth Lakes part two video did you catch any fish on the Owens river? That is the perfect place for a Tenkara fly fishing rod. Next month I’m riding from Prim Nevada to lone Pine California on the California BDR. I ride a 2019 450 L. I call her red horse. Thanks for the videos.
FYI the fishing wasn’t that good this year🤦♂️
You nailed it on the head about the lighting. I wish my KTM came with an LED stock. Ended up spending money on the Baja Designs kit :(
Great quality videos man, def earned a sub!
Thanks Tim
Don’t get your hopes up I’m sure there’s gonna be something on my channel that you won’t like😂 but glad your on board to give me a try🤙🏻
It depends on " The bike" is used for.
looking forward to hearing what you think of the crf300L, has it moved beyond an entry level rider's bike?
I think so but it will most likely be good for everyone.
@@bermcannonk Hope you get to test it out for us.
No way you're getting 200 miles on a 2.0 gallon tank. I don't care if you're hyper-miling in 6th at 35mph on a flat road, there's no way.
Your right. Go to the top of the comments where I correct myself
Just finished riding in the Rocky Mountain House area. The Honda CRF450L was perfect. Did all I asked of it. Very under rated motorcycle.
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Dirt Street en track Sounds like it time to open up a new catgory badge CRF450 triple sport That XRR would fit in My pig likes to do it all
Man, good looking bike
Great drone shots! Mark has the oil change interval become an issue at all for you?
No not at all.
When the best part is the headlights, well... no thank you
I have the 2019 and love it. I put supermoto wheels on it for the summer since it was too damn hot to ride in the desert! It’s a hoot to ride in either guise. Only complaint is the jerky throttle but a Vortex is a bit too pricey...
Great to hear Robert. I agree with the vortex.
Buy direct from Vortex out of Australia, you'll save some currently with the lower AUD. It's a one time purchase, it sucks to drop that much coin but the improved performance all around will help you to forget about that money in short order.
is the CRF too tall for you? what your inseam?
So is this your xr650r replacement? I'm on the fence about selling my xr650r. I think its time to move on and get something more user friendly with the magic button and fuel injection.
I’m in the same boat Eric and yes I think this bike belongs in my garage.
Next up for me is lectron. Don't know if I'll ever be able to part with my R.
Having owned both bikes the crf 450l tricked up is not even a comparison. It does everything very very well with the turn of a key :)
CRF450L or KTM500EXC-F?
I like the Honda but they’re really close
we all know that Honda need a bike like ktm 690 or husky 701!!! im glad to have a 650R and the day i sell it, its gonna be when honda release a new bike (we all know that 650L its the same from the 90's)
we are all waiting for it. i am the last of my friends to get a adventure bike. , imagine 650 electric start, EFI
My local Honda dealer told me Honda are discontinuing the 450L. I was considering getting the new model but apparently they aren’t going to make anymore 450Ls into the future???
🤯🤯🤯 #2020 keeps giving? I hope this is not true.
Bermcannon, yeh same. Maybe production is just temporarily on hold during Covid and the new models will come out a bit late?
I highly doubt this after they updated the ECU, plastics, and renamed it for the 2021 model year. They wouldn't have gone to that trouble if they were going to nix this bike. For 2021 it is now known as the 450RL, maybe your dealer is confusing the lack of the original 450L moniker with it no longer being made. I'd take the info you get from your dealer with a grain of salt.
Tex Lee, I asked the same dealer about the 450RL, and he said its all over. I guess we will just have to wait and see if Honda actually deliver these 450RLs to the showroom floor. They certainly won’t be available in the next few months.
@@glossblack1098 My local dealer expects the 2021 450RL this week, so who knows. I am not saying that your dealer is wrong, it just seems highly unlikely. That said, the European guys have made comments about Honda suspending sales there due to low sales numbers. That can most likely be tied to the lower horse power version over there.
You won't see Johnny Campbell riding one of those. I hated mine and sold it .
Really ??? Why?
@@bermcannonk After a while the suspension felt really soft, it probably needed upgrading. I got tired of the jerky throttle it was tedious on tight twisty trails. The spokes and the alloy was corroding quite quickly and I had to spend out to get it to the 45hp. Nice bike but I will stick to the 650R, with electric start soon. 👍
Wow, Back to the XR !!!! You know the jerky throttle is borderline for me I seem to get used to the more I rode it. You were not the first one to complain about that.
@@bermcannonk I know, I guess the good thing is that I paid alot less as it sat in the showroom. Again things have to change so it is inevitable that parts are harder to find for the XR, but also the prices of the Brp seem steady and sometimes very high. Its a shame as Honda could have had an amazing bike with the Crf, this is the bike they should have bought out a while ago, and kept the Xr650 updated with electric start and fuel injection. 👍
100% preach it!!!!
No video ??
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Yes I went on the notafication and it said video taken down by creator.
I guess I picked the wrong video? The fishing video was taken down. Sorry for the mix up.
Yeah I didn’t like it it was kind a half ass I’m gonna redo it and upload it
thats a pathetic price