Scientists have been warning about this since I was a child and I have grey hair coming in. Unfortunately, sometime in the early 80s, we went from a country that could surmount any challenge, to a helpless country that could only address issues if the solutions were profitable enough to a small group of the wealthy. We get what we deserve.
It was the time when the saying "Greed is Good" and "the only responsibility a company has is to its share holders." became the mantra. Also the US decoupling from gold in the mid 1970s didn't help.
Imagine if America voted for the Nobel Peace Prize winner who warned us this would happen over a decade ago instead of war hungry Bush. One can only dream.
There was a reason that the 80's was called the "me" decade. People quit caring about their neighbors as much and just began to get absorbed into themselves. Its just gotten worse and worse over the years with the advent of more personal technology and social media platforms.
Too many people on the planet. When a species out populates its resources a massive die off will occur. That’s true of all species as populations become too big. The sad part is we have done this to the planet and other species as well. And if we can’t stop using fossil fuels we are doomed. Critical times ahead. Conserve water. No green grass lawns in deserts. Drive less. Fly less. Give up beef. Plant trees. Use drip irrigation. Famine, drought, climate migrations, and massive species loss ahead. Some predict within 100 years. Extinction of humans? Inevitable if we do not stop the climate change humans have caused.
So what. the government is all too happy to see the explosive out of control population get cleansed immensely. If over 5 billion of us die then maybe the one's left standing can fight over what is left and live to talk about it a couple more centuries until the same scenario comes to light and repeats itself. We are just a number and the rich and ruling elite have lavish underground cities to retire in while we all starve, die and get broiled alive. Only a small percentage of this planet can sustain life and as we breed like flies and consume all usable and critical resources we have no choice but to spread out and use our armies to slaughter millions in order to have a new place to call home and expand our empire.. They did it to the Indians and many ethnic tribes through out history. Now its our turn to suffer our evil, sinful, demonic ways. War, famine, drought, plagues and super storms will make our lives a living hell. So keep breeding like flies and we will see home many more homeless and starving people have to look forward to death on this hell hole. So all you fools keep staring at your phones and chasing the worthless dollar. This warmonger nation lived by the sword oh so long, soon we will die by the sword and reap what we have sewn. Welcome to this dog eat dog world where the super rich control the strong to impose their will on the dumbed down sheeple.
Not exactly - We made a deliberate decision to ignore the predictions of the scientific community, and cynically gambled the health of America's future generations ... and did nothing
Gov does nothing to make a difference. They tax us using it as an excuse but still mismanage everything. If they were concerned they would have done something a long time ago. What could they possibly do that they could have done in the past 20 years.
@@jdlawncare5582 I think pumping in ocean water or Mississippi River water to help refill The Great Salt Lake, as well as Lake Mead is a damn good idea, though costly in the extreme and will take much time to build !!
This is the cycle of the earth. Climate change is nothing new. Sure we may have sped it up this time but it was going to happen regardless of human intervention and will happen time and time again as it has before.
This goes way beyond Salt Lake; Lake Powell and Lake Mead are also at record lows; this is a systemic drought issue impacting the entire west from Canada all the way down to Mexico. (BEAR IN MIND the Salt Lake is NOT a water source for the city, they get their water from mountain streams, and it's drying up regardless)
@@kelj4517 I live in Michigan and worry for those people and about how this will eventually impact everyone. We are getting warnings from nature and we are ignoring them.
Selfishness of the mega rich global elites and just as bad the selfishness of the poor who think like global elites, their solutions like we need to keep our homes cooler in summer and warmer in winter. People are just asking for things to get worse. I’m pretty sure the globalist already taken into account it’s not going to work, can’t have people sitting at home out of the extremes paying for the things everyone considered a solution. I’m glad I never had kids. Not really my future I have to worry about.
I went back to my home town in Mexico last week and the mountain river where my fondest memories were made is completely dry. Shocked and saddened. We can't fix nature but man can we f it up!!
Isnt that the saddest truth MavFan?? There are people who care but they are stuck with an almost unsolvable question...Do we try to fix everything we have broken or do we constantly try not to break anything anymore???
10 months later: The Great Salt Lake has had an all time record growth, 5.3' in elevation and still growing. 0% drought in the Great Salt Lake water basin.
Building restrictions on landscaping desperately need to be put in place. There is no reason why every .25 acre lot should be covered in grass. No reason why commercial properties should be landscaped in grass. Require solar panels to ease the demand on water for electricity, get rid of the “use it or lose it” rule for ranchers and farmers. The reality is that most agricultural water users in Utah know how to conserve. They don’t necessarily NEED all the water they own, but the state will take their water rights back if they don’t prove “beneficial use” which then causes them to purposely waste water just so that they don’t lose their right. It’s a bassakward way of “managing” water, and our illustrious lawmakers don’t seem to give two hoots as long as they are getting money from special interests and PACs.
The solution for all this was already engineered at great cost and was pushed hard by Utah Senator Ted Moss back in the 1960's, it's called NAWAPA and it would have turned the great basin into usable farmland and the southwest US into an oasis, too bad it wasn't built, there are documentaries here on RUclips about it.
It's as if the entire American West made it illegal to live a low-impact lifestyle. From having to drive everywhere, to mandatory lawn regulations, to farming laws; all of it.
It is hard to feel bad for them when you look at who they repeatedly keep putting into office in the state. Those same people have voted against helping the people of Utah over and over and over again, but keep getting voted in anyways.
I agree with so many of the comments. I am 55 and direct sunlight seems so much stronger and more intense than when I was a kid. A few years ago I got a sunburn sitting in a garage 2-3 feet away from the sun. I was stunned.
Im super sensitive to the sun also. Mormons made a lot of money off of their state and now its unlivable, but? Theyre putting a prison in on the lake bed - that is flat assed cruel and unusual punishment. You either operate off of a moral pivoting point? Or you are a monster.... I guess the SLC Mormons are monsters. As Mormons sowed? So shall the Mormons reap... It's no wonder their "promised land" vomited them all out. P..s. they're moving a massive amt of Mormons to NE Colorado.. its their divine right to take over and subjugate the non.mormons in states surrounding Colorado... :( (Translation? They're going to destroy NE Colorado same as they destroyed Utah - what a legacy to trail behind mormons) ..
@@lockelamora0717 "It's an egghead government plot! They're tryin' to control global warming, get it? GLOBAL. That's code for UN commissars telling Americans how hot it's gonna be in OUR outdoors. I say LET the world warm up, see what Boutros Boutros-Ghali Ghali thinks about that... We'll grow oranges in Alaska."
@@irgelreal The Bible says alot of things and ppl always use it as reason not to change. God (Mother Nature) gave us free will though & we have the ability to prevent Climate Change. We just need better leaders who actually take it seriously.
@@AGalacticMerger Silly Aaron, you know not of what you speak, kid. Do a little research on the over-regulation of desalination which could have solved this issue years ago. In the meantime, the state that produces the most food will be dry thanks to the democrats.
The same drop in air quality and an explosion of respiratory illness happened when the Aral Sea dried out due to massive irrigation of the desert around it for cotton production. All the toxic dust at the bottom of the sea bed blew around the region. Summers got hotter, winters got colder without the mitigating effects of a large body of water.
@@manihategoogle7350 The runoff from nearby agricultural fields has polluted the remaining parts of the Aral Sea with pesticides and fertilizers, which have crystallized with the salt. Inhalation of the salt can cause severe throat and lung problems. The salt also can poison farmers' produce and cause chemical damage to buildings. I don't 'throw around" terms. I take the health reports from the respective governments and the UN. Troll harder.
Can't forget dope farming way up stream too and the thousands of home grown dope farm operations. Where I used to live the town allowed for a massive dope farm to go up that pretty much dried up all of the well water in the area and was forced to shut down and move elsewhere.
@@manihategoogle7350 Are you an imbecile? Who cares about the salt? I was talking about the toxic pollution at the bottom of the Aral Sea and the Salt Lake. You are a troll.
Still waiting to hear from Mr. Lee. Does he still believe climate change is nothing we have to worry yet. Two years ago he said, with a straight face, the crisis should be left to future generations, nothing we need to address with any urgency. Utah must be brimming with pride over this elected dunce.
He's a corrupt seditionist who's only holding that position for power. Utahns both democrat and moderate conservative came together recently to try to primary the rat out, but sadly he's still got a bigger base of people who love the evil he delivers.
The cracked lake is a physical manifestation of the hate that freakish religion has against any diverse group. This is perfect the way they will now breathe arsenic like the poison of hate they've spit on everyone but their own.
My great grandmother used to say an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. She was a sensible person. Whether it's about preventing these natural disasters, or dealing with covid, educating kids or allowing women the choice to bring a pregnancy to full term, you should ALWAYS look down the road, and avoid the bigger mess that will unfold if at all possible. The alternatives are so costly.
in the 1930ties the midwest was in a massive drought for 10 years--40 millions acres of farmland was lost--the dustbowl--our farm in Mn was covered in sand,dust--shett happens--read about it--cheers for all you drama kings,queens--i was one of the few to ever water ski the great salt lake!! in the 80ties when full--big ass spiders,shett load of flys,massive stink at the marinas,hell on earth!!!!
I think it's funny they present this as a shocking thing even as we've spent the last 100 years doing actions that would exactly cause this, but we decided to double down on those actions and did nothing to oppose it. We were shocked 40 years ago, it's time to do something about it.
Long as the same politicians keep getting elected and people thinking this is all according to "scripture" nothing is ever going to change. Like they are just willingly driving off the cliff.
in the 1930ties the midwest was in a massive drought for 10 years--40 millions acres of farmland was lost--the dustbowl--our farm in Mn was covered in sand,dust--shett happens--read about it--cheers for all you drama kings,queens--i was one of the few to ever water ski the great salt lake!! in the 80ties when full--big ass spiders,shett load of flys,massive stink at the marinas,hell on earth!!!!
The Olympics was our downfall. Million dollar mansions litter the mountains that used to be cover with trees shrubs and winter range for deer and elk that slowly released water down to the valley floor. The population of the state has increased by 1.5 million since 2000. Much of the water is used before ever hitting the Great Salt Lake. The temps are the same as they where 20 years ago.
The desert isn't for living and growing. Every other population on earth understands that but Westerners. This is from 200 years of wealthy people diverting natural resources for their pools and lawns and commercial endeavors. Arizona is feeling it, too.
I'm a phoenix native. The climate here has changed so much since I was a kid. What are we gonna do out here in the west? So many people have moved here to the desert, just like so many have moved to Utah. It's insanity. Are we gonna pump ocean water to Phoenix as well straight to desalination plants that are inland? Or connect the Mississippi to the Colorado? Things are gonna get real bad this decade.
But Dustin that won't work either. Let me ask you a question. What do they do with the run off from the desalination plants? Let me tell you millions apon millions of gallons of hypertonic waste is just dumped back into the ocean raising the salt levels which slowly destroys the coral reefs, fish larve the ocean changing the P H level.
What I find most frustrating regarding the Colorado River watershed is that they have had 30+ years to be working out a emergency backup plan and yet it seems NOTHING was ever accomplished In addition to that, short term management has been abysmal. Smh...considering the point we are at now I have very little faith anyone is taking this anywhere near as seriously as they should.
Well as you astutely pointed out, so many people have moved to the southwest...a harsh desert region that was never suited to sustainably support such a population boom. Looking at Census data over the last 40 years it's staggering to see the out of control unsustainable growth in cities like Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tucson, Salt Lake City... As far as I'm concerned, local and state political and business leaders made their bed, now they must lay in it. To suggest siphoning water from other parts of the country will only make the situation even more dire effecting a greater number of people.
@@RuggedRunnerOverland You're correct. Taking it from the Mississippi is ludicrous. The Mississippi is having it's own issues. My neighbor is a tug boat captain. A few years ago, the Mississippi had receded to where they were having to navigate around emerging sandbars. They also mentioned the Red River, I guess traveling between Arkansas and Texas. That water is nothing but silt and clay. They'd be cleaning those lines constantly
@@lewisjulian0830 The main problem with desalination is that it can't make up the shortfall. We are not supposed to live in deserts with the kinds of numbers we're aiming for. Used to be that overloading the desert ended up capping the population through death by thirst. People way back then had the sense to live where the water was. If the water cycle can't keep the place hydrated, with 12,900 cubic *kilometers* of water available at any given time, we have no hope of doing that.
The Eel river in Humboldt County (classified as a rainforest and home of the giant redwoods) stopped running for a week last summer. First time in recorded history. It's going to be even dryer next year. 😥
Sooner or later, whether we like it or not, the real cause is going to have to be addressed. Human over population and development. Utah went from 1.4 million in 1980 to 3.5 million today. The state didn’t get a sqft bigger or get anymore resources or water. The same situation applies to the rest of the planet. Infinite population growth in a finite area will never end well.
@@fredricksmith-something.2125 Human overpopulation is a myth lol Every first world country has a declining birthrate Japan may not exist in a few decades Russia soon to follow shortly after During and after industrialization, nations birth rates start to flat line and then go into decline This pattern has proven true across the globe The good earth is vast and rich, with near unlimited resources in space around us This doom and gloom crap is worse than the Overpopulation you think is a problem which actually isnt
@@james_giant_peach They could have voted with the science instead of the GOP Nitwits who were against any climate action and infrastructure upgrades (BuT SoCiAlIZM is bad 'kay). It's typical conservative behavior that, only when it's too late and it's impacting them, that they suddenly get the gospel.
in the 1930ties the midwest was in a massive drought for 10 years--40 millions acres of farmland was lost--the dustbowl--our farm in Mn was covered in sand,dust--shett happens--read about it--cheers for all you drama kings,queens--i was one of the few to ever water ski the great salt lake!! in the 80ties when full--big ass spiders,shett load of flys,massive stink at the marinas,hell on earth!!!!
It's pretty funny that all of these national news outlets are talking about this all the sudden. This has been an issue for decades. You're right. It's waaay too late.
@@dethray1000 you 100% are what’s wrong with society 😂 you’re literally calling those showing you the cruel facts behind climate change “drama queens” 😂
One thing not mentioned is that as the lake shrinks, so does the impact it has on snowfall. Lake effect snow is really important, and as the lake dries up, our snowstorms get smaller each year. That leads to lower snowpack and less runoff. If we can get the lake filled again, it will have a huge effect on snowpack and help curb the drought.
Jeff is there an article or something to back up what u have said i would like to show people i know that think the great salt lake is a waste and should dry up
@@dekubravo1128 yep! There should be plenty, but here is a Wikipedia source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Salt_Lake_effect#:~:text=The%20Great%20Salt%20Lake%20effect,to%20their%20significant%20precipitation%20amounts.
Getting the lake filled back up is one thing, but keeping it filled is another. Can't stop climate change so it'll keep evaporating. Everything is connected and we are all f*cked ✌🏼
@@ILoveBluePeople The mountains are famous for their fluffy snow, which the Great Lake contributes to. The ski industry would be hammered if that got affected in a negative way.
One of the largest contributors of droughts is climate change. One of the largest contributors of climate change is deforestation. This isn't just about trees, it is about preserving forests and preventing deforestation. Stripping out a forest and replacing the forest with a grass lawn and a couple of trees is not going to solve the problem. Replacing a forest with a lawn and concrete is even worse. The heat in subdivisions that have done this is unbearable. One might think that anybody who got into a car that was sitting in a mall parking lot on a sunny day would figure this out; not so. Forests ABSORB radiant heat,. Asphalt, concrete, roofs of buildings, and lawns REFLECT radiant heat. Reflected radiant heat creates a high pressure atmospheric area preventing rain clouds from entering the area. Forests absorb radiant heat creating a low atmospheric area which attracts rain clouds. When there is no rain, you have a drought.
It’s really not but ok. Utah is wasteful with conservation of water. The temps haven’t been much different if liked at the long term it’s not bad or different
We've seen what happens when a lake like this dries up. The Aral Sea was another terminal lake, about twice the size. It's gone now. And everything scientists say could happen at Great Salt Lake has already happened there. Ecosystem has collapsed, more severe drought and toxic dust causing asthma and cancer to the people living there.
Terminal lakes always go dry. Sediments make them shallower and their shallowness accelerates evaporation. It is the way of the planet. Dead Sea. Lake Disappointment. Others too numerous to name. Does nobody in the climate industry study the history of the planet? Or is there not enough money in that?
The idea of piping water from the ocean is absolute craziness and the type of thinking that got us into this mess. How about we start by actually addressing climate change? Remember there is a 3-40 year lag in the CC effects..we haven't even seen yet what we've already sown. Mitigation strategies w/o greatly reducing or ending emissions can't solve the issue. We'll always be behind. And Utah has historically been horrible with water management. One of the driest states and the second highest water use per capita...lawns everywhere in he middle of the desert. Remove them around the Mormon church buildings alone and it would conserve millions of gallons.
It's my understanding that filling the lake back up would actually help by creating more rain and snowpack, that would in be extremely beneficial to everyone, especially in the future.
If you look at all the massive water diversion infrastructure in California to water the central valley, piping ocean water to the Great Salt Lake isn't all that far fetched, tbh.
It's a common trend of the 20th and 21st century. Problems aren't problems until it's too late. This issue has been raised back since 2015, no/little measures have been taken since. People just take available resources for granted.
This is all because of factory farming and animals methane gas emissions!! Factory farming is number one cause of climate change and no one talks about it because we are brainwashed by all these big corporate companies and media !!!
The 13-minute, 42-second 1942 US Department of Agriculture video *Hemp for Victory* is the key to reducing unemployment, reducing poverty, reducing hunger, reducing homelessness, reducing health care costs, reducing crime, reducing police brutality, reducing government spending, reducing political corruption, reducing pollution, replacing fossil fuels, ending deforestation and stopping climate change, all at the same time. There is an official .gov link to the film from the US National Archives. It has been public since 1990. There was a bill in Congress titled HR 3652, the *Hemp for Victory Act of 2019.*
Cover everything with 12 inches of woodchips, and make it rain. The technology has already been figured out- they can… make it rain! Keep the dust in the moist ground. Woodchips will keep moisture
It's almost like there's been a warning about this for over half a century now. And the media is like "Whoa! look at this crazy new thing that we definitely didn't know about"
You are blaming the media? Not Republicans and billionaires? Really. It is the mainstream media that has been warning us for the last 60 years about climate change and the dangers of pollution. In blue states those warnings were heeded and measures taken to slow or end pollution and conserve water. In red states the leaders refused to stop industrial pollution because of costs and even to deny that climate change was even real. Because of their inaction and your continued support, you are now reaping the disasters that past greed and climate change denial and inaction have sown. And it's too late to do anything to slow it down. So go hug your guns and your camo and get ready to play the survival game that you have been hoping and prepping for.
Exactly !!! I am 70 and have been involved in advocating for change in management policies and investment for adaptation since the 1970s. A little puke making having to listen to all the woe is me crap doing the rounds now. Along with everything else, we're screwed ! Hey ! Maybe we should have another war. We have trillions set aside for that !
I think they are just telling people the truth about this 30 foot lake drying up if people keep using the amount of water they are using. It's a shallow lake and won't be around long unless people dramaticly change water usage. That's all
I mean, scientists have metaphorically been screaming that this would happen for LITERAL DECADES. And what did we do? Nearly nothing...really. Profits first...
Only a matter of time, we just continue to ignore the signs and symptoms again and again, year after year. We keep living our high consumerism lifestyles and forget about the idea that we are all dependent on natural resources. It’s only a matter of time until the freshwater supply slowly dwindles to the point that it starts wars and other conflicts. We should’ve learned 50 years ago but we never did.
@@Angry.General1461 all the rivers in Northern Utah already empty in the Great Salt Lake- Bear, Weber, and Ogden. Provo River flows to Utah Lake which empties via Jordan River to the Great Salt Lake. The next closest river-Green River-joins the Colorado which is low.
If y'all wanna start doing something about this, start conserving water drastically. No more golf courses, stop watering grass. Plant greenery that thrives in arid environments, trees everywhere else. Use public transportation and bike more, limit CO2 emisions. Do your own homeowork on the major energy sources used in America, IE Gas, coal, nuclear, and decide for yourself which is the biggest threat. the answer might surprise you. Politicians aren't going to save us, its up to the people. We should have gotten to work decades ago, but better late than never.
They say 2 new suns and it's Planetary system is entering ours and it's coming from Antarctica. Thus the reason it's off limits to everyone. Thus the reason the Pope and Russian Patriarch, first time in history, met there, saw it, and blessed the land or whatever... Thus all your tax dollars being sent to Ukraine and COVID but that's not the truth, they are building underground tunnels, bases and cities and only a select few thousands will chosen for survival and global reset. Everything is Allegedly though, until I see it with my own eyes. But that's the rumor going around if you got access to the Intel or whistleblowers... God speed! Now you know but most likely won't believe it, like most of the population. Knowledge is power and your circle of influence is as important as survival.
This isn’t the only reason I moved from Salt Lake City but it’s a good one, my rent doubled my income didn’t. Crime and homelessness is a huge problem. Air quality and water were very poor. Oregon has its share of problems but there is water and life here.
For centuries, humankind have selected city sites based on the availability of water sources-many of today’s major cities are port cities or they are near a lake/river. Then land developers decided oh, Los Angeles or the middle of nowhere Arizona would make great cities. Folks, when you build a cities in the desert, this is what happen.
Except it's extremely salty. The lake water can't be used for most things it would be if it were not so saline. In other words, this isn't a source for drinking, lawns, etc. Vegas, yeah I'm with you. SLC, not so much. This is definitely a climate issue.
Oh I didnt know this was in a desert. Desert cities are such a stupid fucking concept. This is still a bad thing though and if this other dude is correct then this was climate not humans fault (well except climatr change is humans fault)
@@Gandhi_Physique not humans fault? So is putting chemical in the ground and getting rid of climate protections and climate control rules(thanks trump&other dumb world leaders) and the sheer amount of trash in our oceans too. We fucked up the climate. Out emissions are destroying the layers that protect us from the sun's radiations. We are essentially drinking the earth dry and soon it'll be a husk and the human race will either go extinct. Or magically we find somewhere and have the tech to go to another planet that can sustain us until we destroy that too.
Having been born in Salt Lake City in 1960 and going up in 1981 and swimming in the great salt Lake well actually floating you really couldn’t swim because it was so salty you would just float which was so fun and the beaches and now to think that’s all drying up it’s just heartbreaking
This story did not capture the increased home construction and overall development in the Salt Lake area. Salt Lake, along with many other American cities, are growing and using a lot resources and water. This influx of people is contributing to further exacerbating the lake drying out. This is a scary environmental disaster. Imagine toxic dust blowing off the salt lake.
It doesn't fit the profit plan. We have a government beholding to corporate overlords bent on profit at any cost. Eisenhower warned us on his way out and here we are... ✌️
I went to graduate school there in the mid 2000s. Several times a week around campus you would see the sides of the sidewalks flowing like small streams due to erroneous lawn sprinklers. They were so wasteful with water. And the inversions led to terrible air pollution. Driving on the higher elevation east side of I-215 the air over the valley would look like blue oil smoke. But people didn't want to change their habits.
How about dumbasses stop complaining about water when living in a desert? This would be like me living on top of a mountain and complaining about thin air and snow.
You can't stop water shed off the Wasatch front though. Ironically Mormon stoled Native lands and moved the Natives into the desert with no water. Go figure.
There is not enough education courses to teach the kids from a young age to respect the forest. Everyone should really understand that this is a source of life. Protecting the wild life and the forest is truly protecting life. We move into forest cut down lots of trees chase out all the animals and then for the most part let the forest die. Not enough animal activity, so all the berries die on the ground and the leave fall on the ground which causes to much ground cover. So the solution to it is maybe add more animals to the mix or pay companies to assist the process of collecting manure and spreading it to make the land more fertile. They did everything but put the animals back because the highways have priority.
On my way to Moab last year I remember seeing how exposed it looked from the sky. I thought it was a desert and the water appeared minimal. The Colorodo river in Moab was inches deep in sections. Pretty severe and there will be a human and animal migration to the water areas. It will be quite a spectacle.
It’s pretty crazy show manny people depend on the Colorado river, which read isn’t very big in the best of times and these are not the best times for water in the western US.
I guess you didnt listen. Theres no where for the animals to migrate to. This is halfway between north and south migration destinations. Without it species will go 90% extinct if not go altogether
It’s so nice to see no climate denial. I guess it’s easier to say “we always had 100F temperatures in May in NC, it’s summer,” than it is to say “the Great Lake was always dry.”
But there was no great lakes during the time of Pangaea and it was way hotter. Lol That would be the next argument if science deniers didn’t believe the earth is only 6000 years old .
@@TeamAurorapk regional climate around the world are changing in response to the global warming caused climate change driven by industrial human civilization.
@Daniel Hollingsworth, no one is arguing we dictate the weather. Humans have industrialized for the first time starting in 1750. Burning coal, oil, and gas changes (not dictates) the chemical composition of the Earth’s atmosphere. And we have been doing this at an increasing rate every generation since the industrial revolution. Or do you not believe in industrialization????
@@antonioreid534 it's the usual change in precession if you look back this has happened before it happens all the time humans don't effect this. it's just the sky clock. changing of the times is all. it's nothing to fear
Definitely not a mystery. It is called climate change and republikkklans are just helping make it worse. Thankful it is mostly republikkklan states that are suffering now but they will flee to blue states and spread their idiocy here soon enough.
I was in salt lake City by magna close to the lake; sleeping in my truck homeless last winter and I've lived in Wyoming and Idaho it felt like Wyoming but a weird icy cold. Like the salt was making the wind frozen as if making old fashion ice cream. Old fashion weather warfare on the poor people thanks to Trump in cahoots with Russia. But heavenly father will save us and he can fix anything
How long did y’all think nature would continue to provide natural resources to millions of people? To think we are ready to colonize a unhabitable planet when ours is becoming more unhabitable in many areas is insane. I liked it better when mankind was respecting nature and building homes and temples from rocks.
You're not seeing the point. It's not the "millions of people" that's the problem. It's the fact that we're all driving around in third row SUVs with modified planet killing exhaust pipes and ridiculing people who actually have the foresight to ride bicycles to work. Our transportation choices affect the world way more than what material we build our homes out of. Wooden houses are one thing but 8 lane traffic jams are killing the ecosystem faster than we can order fast food without turning our engines off.
Who could have predicted a problem decades in the making would get worse?/s It's not like half the lake dried up in the last couple years. Year after year they saw it get lower and lower and did almost nothing about it. Now their lackluster attempts didn't have any effect and they have to do something drastic and/or dangerous.
@@benefactionhindrance well to be fair, people have been telling us to change our ways or stuff like this would happen since I was a child. I'm 34 now. Too little too late.
So this funny to you? We need to work together to find solutions instead of blaming each other. How can we make real change if everyone is fighting. It's like a toxic relationship where we are just stuck in the mud.
@@jake57 No, the ignorance and stupidity of the right wing is funny....as funny as it was scary. Now reality hits and you wish to ignore the trash that refused to listen. Nope! We can insult and find solutions. Been finding solutions and listening to stupid for decades. We are experts and doing both. Amazing, huh!
I visited Antelope Island only a few years ago. It was surreal to look in any direction and as far as you could see there was no sign of anything man made. Just a blue sky reflected in the lake and distant mountains. What added to this ethereal beauty was it was completely silent. Tragedy is not a strong enough word to describe what we see now. Humans do some pretty awful things. But when we decide to, we can do the impossible. It’s time to start doing the impossible.
The same thing is happening in the Salton Sea in California. The dust is already causing surrounding communities to experience super elevated levels of respiratory disease and challenges. Since the Sacramento and San Joaquin River Delta wetlands are all but gone the Salton Sea has become another huge stopping point for migratory birds and now it’s rapidly disappearing as a result of climate change and more fallowed farm land in the Imperial Valley which means less runoff feeding the sea. Oddly enough the agricultural runoff was both sustaining the Salton Sea’s water level and deposited a bunch of harmful chemicals and minerals into the sediment in the Salton Sea. Large areas of exposed lakebed means those chemicals are becoming airborne in dust which impacts people and the environment
It would be real easy to build a pipeline from the Gulf of California to the Salton sea and stabilize the water level. Its only 117 miles and most of that could be an open trench. If you dug a trench from the Gulf to the Laguna Salada you could flood it with sea water and turn it into prime beach front property. Then you would only need a pipeline for a few miles to go under the US border. Once the Salton Sea is stabilized people will come back. Of course the salt level will keep rising but so what. It will become like the great salt lake. Once all the fresh water fish die off then the stench will go away.
I'm a California native and only just heard of the Salton Sea a few years ago. It's story is incredible and wild that it took living to my 30's to even realize its existence and the importance of what bringing it back could do for local ecosystems and economies.
We can thank the rich and powerful for aiding global warming with the careless mismanagement of their industries. Smarter than all other people, but too short sighted to consider the future. Maybe the best culture isn't all it's cracked up to be....
To bring in ocean water they would need to filter out many invasive species before adding it to the lake, not doing so could create the same problem regarding migration of the birds.
And nitrogen cycle, water cycle, soil degradation, chemical & plastic pollution, ocean acidification, habitat destruction/biodiversity loss. The climate is only one facet and really only an indicator that we are fucked it is not the end all be all in environmentalism. We need to make people more aware of the plethora of issues we face.
Disagree, it is inevitable, we are going through a mass extinction event like the thousands of similar mass extinction events before us, it’s just the earths way of cleaning itself
The time to start was in the 70s when my Blue state began efforts to conserve water, limit waste, cut back greenhouse gas emissions, stop polluting and then clean our lakes and rivers. All over the strenuous resistance and threats of minority Republicans and high pollution industry. For the Red states run by anti-environment, climate change deniers, it is simply too late to start now.
This is so devastating. It’s what our state capital is named after, it’s what Utah is known for. The Great Salt Like is so vital. I can’t imagine a day that it didn’t exist. How sad would it be to have to talk to our generations below us about the history on it and how it once was. I’ve lived here my whole life and have great memories going to Antelope Island and floating in the lake and seeing all the birds. This would be so devastating if it dried all the way up.
I was there few years ago for couple months during summer I'm from California but went up there fell in love with Utah truly a beautiful place. The salt lake was at low levels then looks a lot worse even since I left . Too bad that's happening its the center piece to it's beauty.
@@Katrinaw510 people have been claiming that since the day christianity was founded. Like literally in the bible jesus claims the end times would come within a single generation
I swear I've been noticing the sun light seems hotter like temp isn't to over the top but while in direct sun light it's crazy I never had to shield myself from the sun like I have been lately it's just feeling to hot
I just passed by the great salt lake today and it’s not nearly as shallow as I thought it would be, I think it’s very slowly refilling up because all of utahs lake refill up during the winter because of all of the heavy snow fall during the winter
"I drove by one part of a 75×35 mile lake and didn't see any problems. I was at ground level so got a real good view of everything. Now I'm going to make a generalization without very little understanding of how things work."
Because of the season, there is water flowing but not nearly enogh to fill it to past levels and the next dry season would take more of the lake ntil eventually it dries completely in the dry season and you only get to see a puddle in the rain season.
Welcome to what we've been breathing for decades here in the mining areas of southern Colorado. The dust is full of deadly, toxic, chemicals and heavy metals. They are starting to revive many of the old mines (1800's) and all that dust is going into our lungs. Our wildlife are dying off and no one questions why? We are suicide for the planet.
As to the dust and it’s impact on humans, the salton sea in ca and it’s effect on the people living in the imperial valley should have been a model and warning for this. Very sad.
Sounds like the same thing that happened to Owens lake in California. But on a much larger scale. On windy days they have to try and use farming equipment to water it down to keep the toxic dust down.
your wrong nit wit--the city of LA drained it,sent the water to LA and still do--they own the damn valley,owens lake,its theirs--they have spent 400 million on dust migitation ,put a clay cap on most of the dry lake--no farm equipment-my family owns two ranches in owens valley--my father in law was county adminstrator for 33 years,fought the city of LA in court for ever--many books written on the water wars of owens valley--read one
When you move masses of people into areas that aren't designed to sustain life, we can't be surprised when a few decades later those places start to stop susatining life.
It's not about the number of people, but mostly about overconsumption. The average American citizen consumes almost 5 times more water than the average French citizen. In Utah, water consumption per capita is even higher than the national average! If people keep consuming as much water while the state is naturally arid or semi-arid, then it's no surprise that water is becoming scarce.
@@mrmuffer69 Pretty sure the Egyptians managed for like 5000 years.................................................................. America cant even last 30. lol
Welp, that's what you get when you overpopulate a region and don't pay attention to all teh damage you're doing. I'd have more sympathy but we all saw this coming in the 1970s.
we need water trains , there are trax in the middle of the lake . trains will always be a thing and there’s plenty in utah with routes on the lakes shore . fill the tanks with pacific ocean water and drive it to the lake and unload . within a few years of that it will be fixed easy .
Cutting down the rain forest in the Amazon might have something to do with the lack of rain for the rest of the world. I don't see things getting any better anytime soon, keep cutting.
@Peter Belanger This is biblical, GOD is coming back and narcissist to put all their faith in science while denying GOD will find their place in the lake of fire .
nit wit---in the 1930ties the midwest was in a massive drought for 10 years--40 millions acres of farmland was lost--the dustbowl--our farm in Mn was covered in sand,dust--shett happens--read about it--cheers for all you drama kings,queens--i was one of the few to ever water ski the great salt lake!! in the 80ties when full--big ass spiders,shett load of flys,massive stink at the marinas,hell on earth!!!!
No clue if we are experiencing the wrath of our own behavior, the wrath of God, or just the planet heading towards another great reset but whatever the case may be people need to start taking things seriously particularly those in positions of power. It's probably better to approach this more aggressively NOW rather than take too little action and suffer those consequences. Jmho
What I worry is, as fewer and fewer places become habitable, more and more people will flock to the habitable areas but due to supply and demand, only the truly wealthy people will be able to afford a spot and the rest, the poor will suffer the greatest. This I see happening in our life time, so make sure you invest in an good location, as all it takes is a flick of the switch & the world will be in utter chaos. Make sure you have your ducks in a row before the memo reaches the masses because once the idiots start freaking out, its game over.
We’ll all suffer together once we can’t grow crops at scale. The riches money is worthless when there’s no food and water. We’ll all be in the same boat. At least those not in bunkers or trying to takeoff to space
This has been happening around the world. Lake Titicaca in Peru has been drastically drying up for years. I am sad to say, but I am glad Americans are finally seeing this at home because when it happens in third world countries it's as if it's not actually happening, nobody cares. And the US is one of the biggest polluters, it must lead by example, we need a global leader for this change because China sure won't do it. Chinese companies go around the world eating up other country's resources, violating foreign fishing and logging laws, and polluting like they own the world.
Uuuh, this isn't any worse than the heat waves in the early 1990s, and this particular heat wave was predicted decades in advance. The early 2030s are going to be closer to the early 90s in temperature, again, all predicted in advance since this is being influence by natural cycles, NOT from CO2, or "climate change." Climate change as the alarmists would have you believe doesn't work so fast that you would see such drastic changes so fast. Only one force has the power to do that, and you'll see that force when you look up in the day time. The sun has been rapidly increasing in solar activity over the past year, and will continue to output more solar energy than normal for the next 1-2 years before it falls again. Seriously, you people need to pick up a real, actual, science book some time, and stop relying on politicized corporate news to tell you what their "experts" say.
I think I've said it before it's a terrible idea to pump ocean water into the lake you have no idea what marine life as well as bacteria or red tide you could pump into the lake not too mention the salt level would only raise after that water dries up.
The only issue you’ve mention that could present a issue would be introduction of more salt…at at last Morton salt mines the salt from the area so no issue there. Also if you feed ocean water, the small ecological impact would not be as bad as you think. Brine shrimp will go deeper in the water as the salt will be heavier. And in the rare chance of new marine life being established in now filled GLC from ocean might be sustainable for consumption for animals and people. But regardless, this plan should have been started 20+ years ago. It’s kind of a drop in bucket at this point now.
I highly doubt it would be that bad. Either way it's starting too late. I don't think you understand the need for this to be fixed you can't magically fix it now that no one listened so you have to try the ocean route which will work. Problem is getting the water there
The GSL is a terminal lake, but no one's talking about the water usage of the Wasatch Front population and the reduction over time in the amount of water entering the lake from the rivers. Over the past 30 years, the SL valley has completely been filled out from the east bench to the west side. And there is nothing bu houses from Ogden to SLC. All with unlimited water usage. Economists can tell you that this is a pricing problem.
Philippines is so blessed that nothing like this is happening still rich in natural resources and the beauty of nature is intact though frequently visited by storms.
Yup.. much like covid. Nobody cares. 1 million people dead and nobody cares. Just save yourself. There will be no help from partisan leaders. They will be too busy fighting for vote to bother with long term issues.
Because of ignorance and our hubris we have literally let the genie out of the bottle with no way to getting it back. There is a cascade effect in place all throughout the planet and it all started in the Mid-1800's during the Industrial Revolution. Our progress and need for expansion for our civilization may have lead to our own endgame.
This is sad to hear and watch. Piping in ocean water carries so many other issues as well. It could heavily impact the local ecosystem. It would also cost an incredible amount of money to build and maintain the pipeline. Additional costs on water treatment facilities would be very expensive.
I'm not sure if that's a solution that might cause new problems. BUT I don't know how often people need to hear this, climate change will be freaking costy. To watch at solutions in general and always go, nah we can't do that, it costs so much, will cost us more in the end. We call this a Milchmädchenrechnung in Germany. It's a short sighted advantage, that really isn't once you look a bit deeper into it.
I live on the Southwest Washington coast, and I know that never ever would any community or state would allow such a thing. We have our own pressing issues, not least are the declining salmon runs, which like every eco system in the world is faltering and in trouble.
But how many indigenous people make the decision of land and public policies? It’s your own fault as people not indigenous of this land. Your time is out.
I absolutely agree. I lived in Tooele and am friends with some of the natives on the local res. Most people don't even know the res in there. I left 2 months ago because I saw this coming. I swear the ancestors warned me. Then these reports started to come out 3 weeks after we left. I was having cardiovascular events and swollen lymph because I am outside alot. It's all stopped now. I feel so much better. This just breaks my heart what they have done to the land and what they see still doing to the natives.
I’m not sure which experts they talked to but pipping ocean water in would be a horrible idea. As the lake naturally evaporates, the salinity will increase. Which is already happening but would far worse since you’re now pipping in extra salt from the ocean. Also, the cost to build an aqueduct to fill the lake plus the cost of running pumps would be tremendous.
And you already know that the USA can't do big things any more. We will never build another Hoover Dam or Golden Gate Bridge or Mount Rushmore or do a Moon landing, again. Smh.
Pumping sea water to GSL on the surface sounds reasonable but in reality is an impractical pipe dream. It is approximately 600 miles from the ocean to GSL, straight line, but the pipeline to carry it will have to cross the Coast Range, the Sierra Nevada, a few rivers, and go around sensitive ecological areas in California alone. Then it will have to do the same across Nevada before it gets to Utah. That will likely lengthen the actual distance to about 700 miles give or take. Before any construction could start the project would need to be approved by the USEPA, the CalEPA, and whatever environmental protection agencies in Nevada and Utah which will take several years, it will take two to four years to design so after about 6 years they will be ready to start construction. Construction will likely take another 5 to 10 years. The GSL will have completely dried up by the time the project is completed. There are engineering challenges that will probably kill the project before it gets started. There are no pumps capable of lifting (pumping) water approximately 8000 ft vertically in one lift. Assuming there was the pressure required to raise it in one lift would exceed the pipe's pressure rating, so several lift stations would be required and at each lift station there will have to be a small lake to pump into and pump out of. It is not likely that CalEPA or USEPA will approve sea water lakes in the Sierras which would be project death #1. They will encounter similar but not as severe pumping issues in Nevada and I have no idea how receptive Nevada would be, but I doubt they would approve it. Assuming the engineering and environmental issues are addressed and the project gets approved, then the next issue is cost. The California State Water Project, which is of similar size, was funded by $1.75 billion in bonds in 1960 or about $20 billion in 2022 dollars. The pipe line for pumping sea water to the GSL will probably be more like $100 billion, Project Death #2.. Then there's the maintenance cost, and the cost of electricity consumed by the pumping stations. The SWP consumes approx. 11,000 GWHr every year. The GSL system will likely exceed 30,000 GWHr per year primarily due to having to lift the water over the Sierra Nevada mountains. Utah's FY 2022-23 state budget is about $26 billion which means yearly maintenance and operational costs will end up being a significant percentage of the budget, taking funds away from other programs, Project Death #3, Again assuming the engineering, environmental, fiscal, and construction issues are addressed and the pipeline built it will be too late because the lake will have completely dried up, and the plants and animals will be dead. That is bad news and good news. The good news is that one will not have to worry about the marine species that will be introduced with the sea water will cause the death of the native species which have evolved and adapted over many millennia. Unfortunately since the marine species are adapted to cold temps (~ 40-50 deg F) they will probably not be able to survive the much warmer water that will result in the summer heat due to the shallow water depth of the lake. So there will be stagnant warm sea water with a lot of dead and dying plants and animals, that won't smell pretty and it won't provide the necessary food sources for the migrating fowl, Project Death #4. People have suggested several water conservation measures that could be implemented fairly cheaply so implement them. California has the same issue with dry lake bottoms, primarily the now dry Owens Lake producing toxic dust. The state did a test program where they planted plant species that could survive in the conditions and require very little water to keep them alive. The results were that the area that had been planted produced almost no wind borne dust. Maybe find a way to adapt that for the GSL. It is low cost and easy to maintain and it can be done for WAY less than $100 billion dollars.
Just think, people are fighting over small portions of food at the buffet court over food that is plentiful. But when our waters inland have dried out, food shortage will be a thing. People will do crazy things when they get hungry...
@@marcusrosales3344 Well, when all the grocery stores are out of food, then the next target will be (Drum roll please) people with food urban dwellers/suburban home are for sure. I would say, it is every man/woman for themself (cops will be protecting their own, so forget about calling them).
Piping water from the ocean would be a huge project. They mentioned arsenic as one of the toxins in the lake dust but didn't mention how poisonous it is.
@@eckankar7756 the idea sounds nice but environmentally speaking, I don't think the short term solution outweighs the cost. Go figure, desert areas don't have much access to water and the water it does have shouldn't be wasted because it's a limited resource. Leave the ocean out of human greed and poor planning.
@@bettathanu2244 I totally get it, desert= dry to begin with...but....now I'm thinking a HUGE like water tube from the ocean to SLC that is clear and you can rent out a boat or capsule to ride the journey!!! Fast or slow, it'd be something people my pay to do, I'd do it. Drift or rush from California to SLC. Only downer would be the mormon hate and judgment you'd get if you weren't a member.
@@eckankar7756 sounds fun... but plastics degrade and it wouldn't be worth it in any form or shape. The time it would take to construct, the architecture, machinery, excavation and pollution...... it's the extremely opposite of the issues New Orleans has. We need to stop trying to bend things to our will and respect nature as the powerful deadly force it is. IMHO 🙂
People who depend on this resource need to be prepared to manage and care for it. We should all let this teach us that water is limited, that it deserves mindfulness and respect. You can do more than the state and the rich can to conserve and create opportunities for your neighbors and for your families. This is America. You can do it, Utah!
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Scientists have been warning about this since I was a child and I have grey hair coming in. Unfortunately, sometime in the early 80s, we went from a country that could surmount any challenge, to a helpless country that could only address issues if the solutions were profitable enough to a small group of the wealthy. We get what we deserve.
It was the time when the saying "Greed is Good" and "the only responsibility a company has is to its share holders." became the mantra. Also the US decoupling from gold in the mid 1970s didn't help.
"scientists" are not as brilliant or honorable as people think. Stop putting them on pedestals.
Imagine if America voted for the Nobel Peace Prize winner who warned us this would happen over a decade ago instead of war hungry Bush. One can only dream.
There was a reason that the 80's was called the "me" decade. People quit caring about their neighbors as much and just began to get absorbed into themselves. Its just gotten worse and worse over the years with the advent of more personal technology and social media platforms.
Unfortunately a lot of innocents are getting what they absolutely do not deserve.
everyone wants this solved, but no one wants to actually do anything. They want the other person to sacrifice.
Luckily I am a cat
Literally watch a news program of some lady angry of having to turn off her water more often used for watering her grass..
Wherever you find yourself that is where you are.
Lol it's wayyyyy too late to fix this situation. We can try reducing the water content, but the weather is the reason for this situation.
Too many people on the planet. When a species out populates its resources a massive die off will occur. That’s true of all species as populations become too big. The sad part is we have done this to the planet and other species as well. And if we can’t stop using fossil fuels we are doomed. Critical times ahead. Conserve water. No green grass lawns in deserts. Drive less. Fly less. Give up beef. Plant trees. Use drip irrigation. Famine, drought, climate migrations, and massive species loss ahead. Some predict within 100 years. Extinction of humans? Inevitable if we do not stop the climate change humans have caused.
The state never prepared for this. They believed that they could over use the environment and profit from it. Now millions are at risk.
Same reason California is also facing danger. Meanwhile Nevada has increased their population while lowering their water consumption.
Logical outcome from capitalism. It is very good in the short term and terrible on the long term. Paying for the mistakes made nearly 80 year ago.
Utah politicians don't believe in climate change.
So what. the government is all too happy to see the explosive out of control population get cleansed immensely. If over 5 billion of us die then maybe the one's left standing can fight over what is left and live to talk about it a couple more centuries until the same scenario comes to light and repeats itself. We are just a number and the rich and ruling elite have lavish underground cities to retire in while we all starve, die and get broiled alive. Only a small percentage of this planet can sustain life and as we breed like flies and consume all usable and critical resources we have no choice but to spread out and use our armies to slaughter millions in order to have a new place to call home and expand our empire.. They did it to the Indians and many ethnic tribes through out history. Now its our turn to suffer our evil, sinful, demonic ways. War, famine, drought, plagues and super storms will make our lives a living hell. So keep breeding like flies and we will see home many more homeless and starving people have to look forward to death on this hell hole. So all you fools keep staring at your phones and chasing the worthless dollar. This warmonger nation lived by the sword oh so long, soon we will die by the sword and reap what we have sewn. Welcome to this dog eat dog world where the super rich control the strong to impose their will on the dumbed down sheeple.
@@nickl5658 Chinese bot
we've known for half a century this was coming... and we did nothing.
Not exactly - We made a deliberate decision to ignore the predictions of the scientific community, and cynically gambled the health of America's future generations ... and did nothing
Lets help lets change now
Gov does nothing to make a difference. They tax us using it as an excuse but still mismanage everything. If they were concerned they would have done something a long time ago. What could they possibly do that they could have done in the past 20 years.
@@jdlawncare5582 I think pumping in ocean water or Mississippi River water to help refill The Great Salt Lake, as well as Lake Mead is a damn good idea, though costly in the extreme and will take much time to build !!
What can you do? Any suggestions?
I feel bad for future generations. We have truly made mistakes that cannot be forgotten.
This is the cycle of the earth. Climate change is nothing new. Sure we may have sped it up this time but it was going to happen regardless of human intervention and will happen time and time again as it has before.
we are the last generation..
read the bible… one generation after Israel getting their land back.. One generation in bible is 70 to 80 yrs…..
there will be no future generations.....we will see the end.....maybe 10 or 20 yrs....its over
And future generations will still be making those same mistakes
Stop driving!
This goes way beyond Salt Lake; Lake Powell and Lake Mead are also at record lows; this is a systemic drought issue impacting the entire west from Canada all the way down to Mexico. (BEAR IN MIND the Salt Lake is NOT a water source for the city, they get their water from mountain streams, and it's drying up regardless)
This is called human greed * The Roman's suffered from this and the Egyptians, we are not evolving and deserve what come to us.
Who cares I live in Georgia.
We have plenty of ground water and we never have a water shortage.
@@kelj4517 I live in Michigan and worry for those people and about how this will eventually impact everyone. We are getting warnings from nature and we are ignoring them.
Selfishness of the mega rich global elites and just as bad the selfishness of the poor who think like global elites, their solutions like we need to keep our homes cooler in summer and warmer in winter. People are just asking for things to get worse. I’m pretty sure the globalist already taken into account it’s not going to work, can’t have people sitting at home out of the extremes paying for the things everyone considered a solution. I’m glad I never had kids. Not really my future I have to worry about.
A drought in the desert , go figure
I went back to my home town in Mexico last week and the mountain river where my fondest memories were made is completely dry. Shocked and saddened. We can't fix nature but man can we f it up!!
It’s called breeding. Most poor countries breed like Rats.
Isnt that the saddest truth MavFan?? There are people who care but they are stuck with an almost unsolvable question...Do we try to fix everything we have broken or do we constantly try not to break anything anymore???
We can fix nature if we overthrow our corporate overlords and their politician running dogs.
Who is we? You mean multinational corporations blaming us? Relax.
@@felipecervantes7881 corporations wouldn't exist if people wouldn't buy their products. So yeah, ultimately WE are the culprit.
10 months later: The Great Salt Lake has had an all time record growth, 5.3' in elevation and still growing. 0% drought in the Great Salt Lake water basin.
Building restrictions on landscaping desperately need to be put in place. There is no reason why every .25 acre lot should be covered in grass. No reason why commercial properties should be landscaped in grass. Require solar panels to ease the demand on water for electricity, get rid of the “use it or lose it” rule for ranchers and farmers. The reality is that most agricultural water users in Utah know how to conserve. They don’t necessarily NEED all the water they own, but the state will take their water rights back if they don’t prove “beneficial use” which then causes them to purposely waste water just so that they don’t lose their right. It’s a bassakward way of “managing” water, and our illustrious lawmakers don’t seem to give two hoots as long as they are getting money from special interests and PACs.
The solution for all this was already engineered at great cost and was pushed hard by Utah Senator Ted Moss back in the 1960's, it's called NAWAPA and it would have turned the great basin into usable farmland and the southwest US into an oasis, too bad it wasn't built, there are documentaries here on RUclips about it.
@@justsomecarguy Solving one ecological disaster by creating another
@@oHaiKuu great salt lake is salt water farm animals ain’t gonna drink that
Sadly most people can't be bothered. Once we all see that, then we can make real changes that will have to come in the form of laws.
It's as if the entire American West made it illegal to live a low-impact lifestyle. From having to drive everywhere, to mandatory lawn regulations, to farming laws; all of it.
Wait....I thought the Gov of Utah encouraged everyone to pray with him to end the drought. Amazing that it didnt work.
It worked about as well as the "thoughts and prayers " work with gun violence.
lol i forgot about that thanks for reminding
Maybe it takes human sacrificing. Maybe they didn't pray enough.
Just cause you pray for something doesn’t mean it’ll always come true. Things happen.
LMFAO
It is hard to feel bad for them when you look at who they repeatedly keep putting into office in the state. Those same people have voted against helping the people of Utah over and over and over again, but keep getting voted in anyways.
Yep. Real change has to come from the top and we can’t afford to keep
electing in Neanderthals who don’t believe in Science.
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@Littlechowmow Mowmow you can't even spell
Yeah, vote Republican some more I am sure they care about you, let's see have you ever tried the other party
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Have you?
I agree with so many of the comments. I am 55 and direct sunlight seems so much stronger and more intense than when I was a kid. A few years ago I got a sunburn sitting in a garage 2-3 feet away from the sun. I was stunned.
I thought I was nuts. But I feel the same. Direct sunlight feels more intense to me now than it did just 5 years ago. I'm only 28.
I’m literally screen shotting these comments to show my family, I can’t believe other people experience this as well 😳
Stop eating highly processed seed and vegetable oils
Im super sensitive to the sun also. Mormons made a lot of money off of their state and now its unlivable, but? Theyre putting a prison in on the lake bed - that is flat assed cruel and unusual punishment. You either operate off of a moral pivoting point? Or you are a monster....
I guess the SLC Mormons are monsters.
As Mormons sowed? So shall the Mormons reap...
It's no wonder their "promised land" vomited them all out.
P..s. they're moving a massive amt of Mormons to NE Colorado.. its their divine right to take over and subjugate the non.mormons in states surrounding Colorado... :(
(Translation? They're going to destroy NE Colorado same as they destroyed Utah - what a legacy to trail behind mormons)
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I believe this can be explained by the orbit of the earth around the sun. It is not a round circle but more the shape of an egg.
So very sad and scary... Yet there is a particular party that still thinks climate change is a hoax!
Worse yet, that it's good. MTG
Gods judgement dude. The Bible says everything that’s coming next and it’s happening.
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Pffft!!!
@@lockelamora0717 "It's an egghead government plot! They're tryin' to control global warming, get it? GLOBAL. That's code for UN commissars telling Americans how hot it's gonna be in OUR outdoors. I say LET the world warm up, see what Boutros Boutros-Ghali Ghali thinks about that... We'll grow oranges in Alaska."
@@irgelreal The Bible says alot of things and ppl always use it as reason not to change. God (Mother Nature) gave us free will though & we have the ability to prevent Climate Change. We just need better leaders who actually take it seriously.
No problem, the Utah GOP will fix the issue with more tax cuts for corporations.
And more thoughts and prayers.
and the CA dems are doing a bang up job here! Think about that when you pay even more for fruits and vegetables.
@@rsenior7140 paying more for vegetables or dying of thirst. Hmmm... 🤔
That always works, remedies everything
@@AGalacticMerger Silly Aaron, you know not of what you speak, kid. Do a little research on the over-regulation of desalination which could have solved this issue years ago. In the meantime, the state that produces the most food will be dry thanks to the democrats.
The same drop in air quality and an explosion of respiratory illness happened when the Aral Sea dried out due to massive irrigation of the desert around it for cotton production. All the toxic dust at the bottom of the sea bed blew around the region. Summers got hotter, winters got colder without the mitigating effects of a large body of water.
Water lack thereof was the problem.Even water is toxic when it's in your lungs. Please stop throwing around "toxic" without context.
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The runoff from nearby agricultural fields has polluted the remaining parts of the Aral Sea with pesticides and fertilizers, which have crystallized with the salt. Inhalation of the salt can cause severe throat and lung problems. The salt also can poison farmers' produce and cause chemical damage to buildings. I don't 'throw around" terms. I take the health reports from the respective governments and the UN. Troll harder.
Can't forget dope farming way up stream too and the thousands of home grown dope farm operations. Where I used to live the town allowed for a massive dope farm to go up that pretty much dried up all of the well water in the area and was forced to shut down and move elsewhere.
@@RuleofFive it's not the salt, it's the pesticide and artificial fertilizer. Look in the mirror before calling people trolls
@@manihategoogle7350 Are you an imbecile? Who cares about the salt? I was talking about the toxic pollution at the bottom of the Aral Sea and the Salt Lake. You are a troll.
High water use agriculture needs to be banned in Utah.
Drove past it a few days ago. It was shocking.
no water. no life. no girlfriend... no money
@@jamesnguyen7069 no food . no animals . no plants .. no people . no planet .
@@jamesnguyen7069 jee no money does sounds bad for the stock market
It's not that bad. Think of all the real estate coming out of the dried lake bed. They could build houses there for the homeless.
Welcome to your future
Still waiting to hear from Mr. Lee. Does he still believe climate change is nothing we have to worry yet. Two years ago he said, with a straight face, the crisis should be left to future generations, nothing we need to address with any urgency. Utah must be brimming with pride over this elected dunce.
Leave the problem to future Americans. 2 years later, future Americans are now present Americans. So solve the problem. Don't have 2 years anymore.
Quit voting Republicans, God people wake the hell up, it is not the party it once was its all about the CEO's and trump GOD
He's a corrupt seditionist who's only holding that position for power. Utahns both democrat and moderate conservative came together recently to try to primary the rat out, but sadly he's still got a bigger base of people who love the evil he delivers.
The cracked lake is a physical manifestation of the hate that freakish religion has against any diverse group. This is perfect the way they will now breathe arsenic like the poison of hate they've spit on everyone but their own.
LOL, Mike Lee is a useless POS that doesn't care. He's too busy building a railroad thru national forests to pump more oil into SLC.
My great grandmother used to say an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. She was a sensible person. Whether it's about preventing these natural disasters, or dealing with covid, educating kids or allowing women the choice to bring a pregnancy to full term, you should ALWAYS look down the road, and avoid the bigger mess that will unfold if at all possible. The alternatives are so costly.
in the 1930ties the midwest was in a massive drought for 10 years--40 millions acres of farmland was lost--the dustbowl--our farm in Mn was covered in sand,dust--shett happens--read about it--cheers for all you drama kings,queens--i was one of the few to ever water ski the great salt lake!! in the 80ties when full--big ass spiders,shett load of flys,massive stink at the marinas,hell on earth!!!!
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@@dethray1000 most of that was caused by poor farming techniques you idiot
So true! Especially on vehicles.
How do we prevent a 20 year drought?
I live in Maine and all of our lakes are extremely low. I've never seen anything like it. Not in my lifetime
I think it's funny they present this as a shocking thing even as we've spent the last 100 years doing actions that would exactly cause this, but we decided to double down on those actions and did nothing to oppose it. We were shocked 40 years ago, it's time to do something about it.
Long as the same politicians keep getting elected and people thinking this is all according to "scripture" nothing is ever going to change. Like they are just willingly driving off the cliff.
Typical humans. Wait for the sky to fall then try to do something about it. We are all mental midgets.
in the 1930ties the midwest was in a massive drought for 10 years--40 millions acres of farmland was lost--the dustbowl--our farm in Mn was covered in sand,dust--shett happens--read about it--cheers for all you drama kings,queens--i was one of the few to ever water ski the great salt lake!! in the 80ties when full--big ass spiders,shett load of flys,massive stink at the marinas,hell on earth!!!!
@@dethray1000 ok, I guess everything will be fine, then. Guess we dodged a bullet, thanks for the clarification
windowzombie Too little too late.
I drove past there in 1995 and the lake had grown so large it was threatening the Interstate. This retreat is truly a hard thing to see.
Wow that's crazy.
it's called nature's cycles.
They messed up when they decided to pump the lake instead of moving I-80
The Olympics was our downfall. Million dollar mansions litter the mountains that used to be cover with trees shrubs and winter range for deer and elk that slowly released water down to the valley floor. The population of the state has increased by 1.5 million since 2000. Much of the water is used before ever hitting the Great Salt Lake. The temps are the same as they where 20 years ago.
The desert isn't for living and growing. Every other population on earth understands that but Westerners. This is from 200 years of wealthy people diverting natural resources for their pools and lawns and commercial endeavors. Arizona is feeling it, too.
I'm a phoenix native. The climate here has changed so much since I was a kid. What are we gonna do out here in the west? So many people have moved here to the desert, just like so many have moved to Utah. It's insanity. Are we gonna pump ocean water to Phoenix as well straight to desalination plants that are inland? Or connect the Mississippi to the Colorado? Things are gonna get real bad this decade.
But Dustin that won't work either. Let me ask you a question. What do they do with the run off from the desalination plants? Let me tell you millions apon millions of gallons of hypertonic waste is just dumped back into the ocean raising the salt levels which slowly destroys the coral reefs, fish larve the ocean changing the P H level.
What I find most frustrating regarding the Colorado River watershed is that they have had 30+ years to be working out a emergency backup plan and yet it seems NOTHING was ever accomplished
In addition to that, short term management has been abysmal.
Smh...considering the point we are at now I have very little faith anyone is taking this anywhere near as seriously as they should.
Well as you astutely pointed out, so many people have moved to the southwest...a harsh desert region that was never suited to sustainably support such a population boom. Looking at Census data over the last 40 years it's staggering to see the out of control unsustainable growth in cities like Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tucson, Salt Lake City... As far as I'm concerned, local and state political and business leaders made their bed, now they must lay in it. To suggest siphoning water from other parts of the country will only make the situation even more dire effecting a greater number of people.
@@RuggedRunnerOverland You're correct. Taking it from the Mississippi is ludicrous. The Mississippi is having it's own issues. My neighbor is a tug boat captain. A few years ago, the Mississippi had receded to where they were having to navigate around emerging sandbars. They also mentioned the Red River, I guess traveling between Arkansas and Texas. That water is nothing but silt and clay. They'd be cleaning those lines constantly
@@lewisjulian0830
The main problem with desalination is that it can't make up the shortfall. We are not supposed to live in deserts with the kinds of numbers we're aiming for. Used to be that overloading the desert ended up capping the population through death by thirst. People way back then had the sense to live where the water was. If the water cycle can't keep the place hydrated, with 12,900 cubic *kilometers* of water available at any given time, we have no hope of doing that.
The Eel river in Humboldt County (classified as a rainforest and home of the giant redwoods) stopped running for a week last summer. First time in recorded history. It's going to be even dryer next year. 😥
Sooner or later, whether we like it or not, the real cause is going to have to be addressed. Human over population and development. Utah went from 1.4 million in 1980 to 3.5 million today. The state didn’t get a sqft bigger or get anymore resources or water. The same situation applies to the rest of the planet. Infinite population growth in a finite area will never end well.
It's not JUST over population.
But that is also the next chip to fall.
Many states are making abortions illegal. Imagine reaching a limited resources crisis 50 years from now where society makes it illegal to have babies.
@@fredricksmith-something.2125 Human overpopulation is a myth lol
Every first world country has a declining birthrate
Japan may not exist in a few decades
Russia soon to follow shortly after
During and after industrialization, nations birth rates start to flat line and then go into decline
This pattern has proven true across the globe
The good earth is vast and rich, with near unlimited resources in space around us
This doom and gloom crap is worse than the Overpopulation you think is a problem which actually isnt
don't tell that to the pro-life peoples, they might shoot you for stating the obvious.
its not overpopulation its inefficient use og resources
If only there was some way that could have been avoided......
There wasn't.
How could the people of SLC have avoided this?
haha wtf are u toking, global warming lmao
@@james_giant_peach They could have voted with the science instead of the GOP Nitwits who were against any climate action and infrastructure upgrades (BuT SoCiAlIZM is bad 'kay). It's typical conservative behavior that, only when it's too late and it's impacting them, that they suddenly get the gospel.
@@krait9964 okay, I was just wondering but you're right that probably would have helped.
I've lived here all my life and all I gotta say is... It's too late.
Yep
in the 1930ties the midwest was in a massive drought for 10 years--40 millions acres of farmland was lost--the dustbowl--our farm in Mn was covered in sand,dust--shett happens--read about it--cheers for all you drama kings,queens--i was one of the few to ever water ski the great salt lake!! in the 80ties when full--big ass spiders,shett load of flys,massive stink at the marinas,hell on earth!!!!
@@dethray1000 you are quite the loser- bigly
It's pretty funny that all of these national news outlets are talking about this all the sudden. This has been an issue for decades. You're right. It's waaay too late.
@@dethray1000 you 100% are what’s wrong with society 😂 you’re literally calling those showing you the cruel facts behind climate change “drama queens” 😂
so are we going to do something about it or not
Nope, God is in control. Be prepared
One thing not mentioned is that as the lake shrinks, so does the impact it has on snowfall. Lake effect snow is really important, and as the lake dries up, our snowstorms get smaller each year. That leads to lower snowpack and less runoff. If we can get the lake filled again, it will have a huge effect on snowpack and help curb the drought.
Jeff is there an article or something to back up what u have said i would like to show people i know that think the great salt lake is a waste and should dry up
@@dekubravo1128 yep! There should be plenty, but here is a Wikipedia source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Salt_Lake_effect#:~:text=The%20Great%20Salt%20Lake%20effect,to%20their%20significant%20precipitation%20amounts.
Getting the lake filled back up is one thing, but keeping it filled is another. Can't stop climate change so it'll keep evaporating. Everything is connected and we are all f*cked ✌🏼
@@dekubravo1128 every single massive body of water that's dried up all over the planet has caused massive dust storms...
@@ILoveBluePeople The mountains are famous for their fluffy snow, which the Great Lake contributes to. The ski industry would be hammered if that got affected in a negative way.
Nothing in this world seems to be getting better, only worse
I wonder if the new climate will be more hospitable for aliens that are going to take over after we die off
@@eckankar7756 Maybe we are the "aliens" that took over 100,000 years ago.
@@philmabarak5421 After so long we became the locals.
Im beginning to think the judgement day is real
@@eckankar7756 if we die off another animal will evolve and adapt just like it used to when the dinosaurs roam
One of the largest contributors of droughts is climate change. One of the largest contributors of climate change is deforestation. This isn't just about trees, it is about preserving forests and preventing deforestation. Stripping out a forest and replacing the forest with a grass lawn and a couple of trees is not going to solve the problem. Replacing a forest with a lawn and concrete is even worse. The heat in subdivisions that have done this is unbearable. One might think that anybody who got into a car that was sitting in a mall parking lot on a sunny day would figure this out; not so. Forests ABSORB radiant heat,. Asphalt, concrete, roofs of buildings, and lawns REFLECT radiant heat. Reflected radiant heat creates a high pressure atmospheric area preventing rain clouds from entering the area. Forests absorb radiant heat creating a low atmospheric area which attracts rain clouds. When there is no rain, you have a drought.
It’s really not but ok. Utah is wasteful with conservation of water. The temps haven’t been much different if liked at the long term it’s not bad or different
I didn't really study science,but everything you said,I've always said
It's because of a polor shift liberal brainless idiots
@@eddiet2602 it's because of polor shift. But liberal media keeps this quiet
It's low because more water is being deverted before it gets to the lake.
It's drying up because they're diverting all the water that goes into it
I can believe that 100%
We've seen what happens when a lake like this dries up. The Aral Sea was another terminal lake, about twice the size. It's gone now. And everything scientists say could happen at Great Salt Lake has already happened there. Ecosystem has collapsed, more severe drought and toxic dust causing asthma and cancer to the people living there.
The toxic dust is because of Soviet bio weapon labs on islands in the sea. We didn't have that.
@@DRKrust492 there is also arsenic, which we do have and for much the same reason
Wow..
Terminal lakes always go dry. Sediments make them shallower and their shallowness accelerates evaporation. It is the way of the planet. Dead Sea. Lake Disappointment. Others too numerous to name. Does nobody in the climate industry study the history of the planet? Or is there not enough money in that?
This area has been poisoned for decades they had to open a cancer Children’s hospice because the rate are so high in the state and SLC
The idea of piping water from the ocean is absolute craziness and the type of thinking that got us into this mess. How about we start by actually addressing climate change? Remember there is a 3-40 year lag in the CC effects..we haven't even seen yet what we've already sown. Mitigation strategies w/o greatly reducing or ending emissions can't solve the issue. We'll always be behind. And Utah has historically been horrible with water management. One of the driest states and the second highest water use per capita...lawns everywhere in he middle of the desert. Remove them around the Mormon church buildings alone and it would conserve millions of gallons.
It's my understanding that filling the lake back up would actually help by creating more rain and snowpack, that would in be extremely beneficial to everyone, especially in the future.
If you look at all the massive water diversion infrastructure in California to water the central valley, piping ocean water to the Great Salt Lake isn't all that far fetched, tbh.
It’s amazing how we can have a big pipe for oil to go across the continent of the United States but with water “well we don’t know” 🤷♂️
There is no such thing as climate change.
@@Anomize23
How do you propose to lift vast quantities of water to an elevation of 4200 feet ?
Oh now that it’s too late let’s do something about it honestly people are just so brain dead they don’t understand the concept of life it’s pathetic
It's a common trend of the 20th and 21st century. Problems aren't problems until it's too late. This issue has been raised back since 2015, no/little measures have been taken since. People just take available resources for granted.
There's something strange about all this..
This is all because of factory farming and animals methane gas emissions!! Factory farming is number one cause of climate change and no one talks about it because we are brainwashed by all these big corporate companies and media !!!
Oh shut up You talking like you're doing something on mass about it remember you are "people" too
The 13-minute, 42-second 1942 US Department of Agriculture video *Hemp for Victory* is the key to reducing unemployment, reducing poverty, reducing hunger, reducing homelessness, reducing health care costs, reducing crime, reducing police brutality, reducing government spending, reducing political corruption, reducing pollution, replacing fossil fuels, ending deforestation and stopping climate change, all at the same time.
There is an official .gov link to the film from the US National Archives. It has been public since 1990.
There was a bill in Congress titled HR 3652, the *Hemp for Victory Act of 2019.*
Cover everything with 12 inches of woodchips, and make it rain. The technology has already been figured out- they can… make it rain! Keep the dust in the moist ground. Woodchips will keep moisture
It's almost like there's been a warning about this for over half a century now. And the media is like "Whoa! look at this crazy new thing that we definitely didn't know about"
People were making too much money developing the west so they didn’t want that information getting out.
Huh? The media has been blaring about this for decades. An inconvenient truth came out 15 years ago
You are blaming the media?
Not Republicans and billionaires? Really.
It is the mainstream media that has been warning us for the last 60 years about climate change and the dangers of pollution. In blue states those warnings were heeded and measures taken to slow or end pollution and conserve water.
In red states the leaders refused to stop industrial pollution because of costs and even to deny that climate change was even real. Because of their inaction and your continued support, you are now reaping the disasters that past greed and climate change denial and inaction have sown.
And it's too late to do anything to slow it down.
So go hug your guns and your camo and get ready to play the survival game that you have been hoping and prepping for.
Exactly !!! I am 70 and have been involved in advocating for change in management policies and investment for adaptation since the 1970s.
A little puke making having to listen to all the woe is me crap doing the rounds now.
Along with everything else, we're screwed !
Hey ! Maybe we should have another war. We have trillions set aside for that !
I think they are just telling people the truth about this 30 foot lake drying up if people keep using the amount of water they are using. It's a shallow lake and won't be around long unless people dramaticly change water usage. That's all
I mean, scientists have metaphorically been screaming that this would happen for LITERAL DECADES. And what did we do? Nearly nothing...really. Profits first...
The GOP made up conspiracy theories about scientists and Utah voters went along with it. I feel bad for the birds, at least.
Blaming everything but human encroachment, the real cause.
Do humans drink salt water?
Absolutely true
Only a matter of time, we just continue to ignore the signs and symptoms again and again, year after year. We keep living our high consumerism lifestyles and forget about the idea that we are all dependent on natural resources. It’s only a matter of time until the freshwater supply slowly dwindles to the point that it starts wars and other conflicts. We should’ve learned 50 years ago but we never did.
It really breaks my heart how the animals are suffering 😔💔
Same😔
@@Latabrine they should pump water into the lake from a river. Simple as that!
@@Angry.General1461 Yeah, that would be simply brilliant!
@@Angry.General1461 Are you REALLY this pathetically ignorant??? What river are you going to pump from bugwit? Jeez.
@@Angry.General1461 all the rivers in Northern Utah already empty in the Great Salt Lake- Bear, Weber, and Ogden. Provo River flows to Utah Lake which empties via Jordan River to the Great Salt Lake. The next closest river-Green River-joins the Colorado which is low.
If y'all wanna start doing something about this, start conserving water drastically. No more golf courses, stop watering grass. Plant greenery that thrives in arid environments, trees everywhere else. Use public transportation and bike more, limit CO2 emisions. Do your own homeowork on the major energy sources used in America, IE Gas, coal, nuclear, and decide for yourself which is the biggest threat. the answer might surprise you.
Politicians aren't going to save us, its up to the people. We should have gotten to work decades ago, but better late than never.
Eating less meat too
Rico's Roughnecks!!!
@@Ihfarmer23 service guarantees citizenship!
They say 2 new suns and it's Planetary system is entering ours and it's coming from Antarctica. Thus the reason it's off limits to everyone. Thus the reason the Pope and Russian Patriarch, first time in history, met there, saw it, and blessed the land or whatever... Thus all your tax dollars being sent to Ukraine and COVID but that's not the truth, they are building underground tunnels, bases and cities and only a select few thousands will chosen for survival and global reset. Everything is Allegedly though, until I see it with my own eyes. But that's the rumor going around if you got access to the Intel or whistleblowers... God speed! Now you know but most likely won't believe it, like most of the population. Knowledge is power and your circle of influence is as important as survival.
@@ToothlesstheNightFury510 no
This isn’t the only reason I moved from Salt Lake City but it’s a good one, my rent doubled my income didn’t. Crime and homelessness is a huge problem. Air quality and water were very poor. Oregon has its share of problems but there is water and life here.
Lies! There’s no water in Oregon! And live sucks here. Don’t move here. It’s not good. Lol
@@macmoll wtf u talking about lmao. Only east Oregon is kinda dry. West Near Portland is the one of the wettest places in us
@@John-fg1xg Shhhhh... As an Oregonian, Oregon is awful and people should definitely stop moving here!
No everyone plz move 2 city Oregon there's plenty of water there this idiots are just lying and bullshiting
Rolls eyes
Ocean water is better if we filter them.
It can be used for anything
For centuries, humankind have selected city sites based on the availability of water sources-many of today’s major cities are port cities or they are near a lake/river. Then land developers decided oh, Los Angeles or the middle of nowhere Arizona would make great cities. Folks, when you build a cities in the desert, this is what happen.
Except it's extremely salty. The lake water can't be used for most things it would be if it were not so saline.
In other words, this isn't a source for drinking, lawns, etc. Vegas, yeah I'm with you. SLC, not so much.
This is definitely a climate issue.
Yeah the like indirectly provides water through lake effect storms, packing snow into the mountains creating runoff.
Oh I didnt know this was in a desert. Desert cities are such a stupid fucking concept. This is still a bad thing though and if this other dude is correct then this was climate not humans fault (well except climatr change is humans fault)
@@Gandhi_Physique not humans fault? So is putting chemical in the ground and getting rid of climate protections and climate control rules(thanks trump&other dumb world leaders) and the sheer amount of trash in our oceans too. We fucked up the climate. Out emissions are destroying the layers that protect us from the sun's radiations. We are essentially drinking the earth dry and soon it'll be a husk and the human race will either go extinct. Or magically we find somewhere and have the tech to go to another planet that can sustain us until we destroy that too.
Utah is only 33% desert (by definition)
Having been born in Salt Lake City in 1960 and going up in 1981 and swimming in the great salt Lake well actually floating you really couldn’t swim because it was so salty you would just float which was so fun and the beaches and now to think that’s all drying up it’s just heartbreaking
Get a pool… put some salt in it. 🤷🏻♂️
@@jadams1722 problem solved
@@jadams1722 I tried that once 2000 gallons of salt and highly expensive
This story did not capture the increased home construction and overall development in the Salt Lake area. Salt Lake, along with many other American cities, are growing and using a lot resources and water. This influx of people is contributing to further exacerbating the lake drying out. This is a scary environmental disaster. Imagine toxic dust blowing off the salt lake.
And then they tell us we need to save water but they use it just for profit
@@user-NofaceNocase So we need to change how much and what we consume.
It doesn't require imagination it's already happening? Do you want to see the world's largest ghost town? Just wait in Salt Lake City.
"Salt Lake, along with many other American cities, are growing and using a lot resources and water."
Is Salt Lake a drinking water source, though?
@YJT I hate showers and washing my hands.havent done either in a year and I do stink like pee and pooh.i just don't care if I offend others
But lets send money over seas and fix and meddle in other countries problems.
Carl Sagan warned of all this in his speech to Congress in 1985. And he discussed the solution to it. It's on RUclips.
John Wesley Powell warned about this 100 years before Sagan.....not to diminish Sagan in any way.
It doesn't fit the profit plan. We have a government beholding to corporate overlords bent on profit at any cost. Eisenhower warned us on his way out and here we are... ✌️
I went to graduate school there in the mid 2000s. Several times a week around campus you would see the sides of the sidewalks flowing like small streams due to erroneous lawn sprinklers. They were so wasteful with water. And the inversions led to terrible air pollution. Driving on the higher elevation east side of I-215 the air over the valley would look like blue oil smoke. But people didn't want to change their habits.
All the water on earth will always be on earth durrrr. It just moves. You understand your drinking water could be from Jesus’s pee himself.
How about dumbasses stop complaining about water when living in a desert? This would be like me living on top of a mountain and complaining about thin air and snow.
You can't stop water shed off the Wasatch front though. Ironically Mormon stoled Native lands and moved the Natives into the desert with no water. Go figure.
I see those automatic sprinklers running when it's RAINING !!! How wasteful ... and ridiculous !!
There is not enough education courses to teach the kids from a young age to respect the forest. Everyone should really understand that this is a source of life. Protecting the wild life and the forest is truly protecting life. We move into forest cut down lots of trees chase out all the animals and then for the most part let the forest die. Not enough animal activity, so all the berries die on the ground and the leave fall on the ground which causes to much ground cover. So the solution to it is maybe add more animals to the mix or pay companies to assist the process of collecting manure and spreading it to make the land more fertile. They did everything but put the animals back because the highways have priority.
On my way to Moab last year I remember seeing how exposed it looked from the sky. I thought it was a desert and the water appeared minimal. The Colorodo river in Moab was inches deep in sections. Pretty severe and there will be a human and animal migration to the water areas. It will be quite a spectacle.
It’s pretty crazy show manny people depend on the Colorado river, which read isn’t very big in the best of times and these are not the best times for water in the western US.
Grew up in Western Colorado. It's shocking visiting how much it's all drying up and burning down.
@@junglelane fucking texans
I guess you didnt listen. Theres no where for the animals to migrate to. This is halfway between north and south migration destinations. Without it species will go 90% extinct if not go altogether
@@Shazza2024 Birds*
First we get the fear factor, then to solve they want money. The fact is the lake will dry up and that will take another 12 thousand years.
It’s so nice to see no climate denial. I guess it’s easier to say “we always had 100F temperatures in May in NC, it’s summer,” than it is to say “the Great Lake was always dry.”
But there was no great lakes during the time of Pangaea and it was way hotter. Lol
That would be the next argument if science deniers didn’t believe the earth is only 6000 years old .
it's not global climate change its regional climate change welcome to the shift of the precession
@@TeamAurorapk regional climate around the world are changing in response to the global warming caused climate change driven by industrial human civilization.
@Daniel Hollingsworth, no one is arguing we dictate the weather. Humans have industrialized for the first time starting in 1750. Burning coal, oil, and gas changes (not dictates) the chemical composition of the Earth’s atmosphere. And we have been doing this at an increasing rate every generation since the industrial revolution.
Or do you not believe in industrialization????
@@antonioreid534 it's the usual change in precession if you look back this has happened before it happens all the time humans don't effect this. it's just the sky clock. changing of the times is all. it's nothing to fear
Hmm, a mystery. It's almost as if there's not enough water in Utah to support such a huge population.
They just keep building apartments like crazy.
@@bubbasizemore4556 Apartments don't have large yards that need to be watered.
@@bubbasizemore4556 Better to build up than to have the "American" suburbs.
Definitely not a mystery. It is called climate change and republikkklans are just helping make it worse. Thankful it is mostly republikkklan states that are suffering now but they will flee to blue states and spread their idiocy here soon enough.
Also, no rain or snowpack due to climate change. How’s the weather where you live?
I remember how big the salt lake was 30 years ago. It’s shocking to see it first hand now.
Keep moving out to the West. Of course the Democrats in California only worry about themselves.
In 1983 we had record level flooding. We were literally pumping water out of the lake into the west dessert.
30 years ago wasn't too big, that's when I moved to SLC, drove by hundreds of times since I had business in Toole. Stinky, though.
@@raymondwest1973 I remember that. They had T-shirts made with the logo "I surfed Main Street".
I remember that Utah built massive pumps to remove water from the lake during the high-stand of 1984.
Too many humans.
I was in salt lake City by magna close to the lake; sleeping in my truck homeless last winter and I've lived in Wyoming and Idaho it felt like Wyoming but a weird icy cold. Like the salt was making the wind frozen as if making old fashion ice cream. Old fashion weather warfare on the poor people thanks to Trump in cahoots with Russia. But heavenly father will save us and he can fix anything
How long did y’all think nature would continue to provide natural resources to millions of people? To think we are ready to colonize a unhabitable planet when ours is becoming more unhabitable in many areas is insane. I liked it better when mankind was respecting nature and building homes and temples from rocks.
Yes! I remember the good old days when this was known as "Lake Bonneville"!
You're not seeing the point. It's not the "millions of people" that's the problem. It's the fact that we're all driving around in third row SUVs with modified planet killing exhaust pipes and ridiculing people who actually have the foresight to ride bicycles to work. Our transportation choices affect the world way more than what material we build our homes out of. Wooden houses are one thing but 8 lane traffic jams are killing the ecosystem faster than we can order fast food without turning our engines off.
Concrete homes/bunker's if you will is not only cheaper (concrete is cheap) it will hold up more to dangerous storm's and low cat hurricanes
Who could have predicted a problem decades in the making would get worse?/s
It's not like half the lake dried up in the last couple years. Year after year they saw it get lower and lower and did almost nothing about it. Now their lackluster attempts didn't have any effect and they have to do something drastic and/or dangerous.
It’s unfortunate no one warned us…
@@benefactionhindrance well to be fair, people have been telling us to change our ways or stuff like this would happen since I was a child. I'm 34 now. Too little too late.
@@adamFIVE88 I think he was being sarcastic
@@el34glo59 oh gotchya hahah I'm running on 6 hrs sleep in 2 days. It flew right over my head.
It's a red state. They all have bootstraps! Damn that climate change BS, huh! LOL
Hell yeah, they can't fix this problem with smaller government, more corporation tax cuts, more guns, and zero abortions.
Ever been to the liberal cesspool that is CA?
So this funny to you? We need to work together to find solutions instead of blaming each other. How can we make real change if everyone is fighting. It's like a toxic relationship where we are just stuck in the mud.
It’s not as RED as you think
Flooded with Californians, Chicago refugees, Washington state exiles
Plus, there’s Romney and Gov Cox in Sheeps clothing
@@jake57 No, the ignorance and stupidity of the right wing is funny....as funny as it was scary. Now reality hits and you wish to ignore the trash that refused to listen. Nope! We can insult and find solutions. Been finding solutions and listening to stupid for decades. We are experts and doing both. Amazing, huh!
A lot of "We told you this would happen." The next generation is screwed.
I visited Antelope Island only a few years ago. It was surreal to look in any direction and as far as you could see there was no sign of anything man made. Just a blue sky reflected in the lake and distant mountains. What added to this ethereal beauty was it was completely silent. Tragedy is not a strong enough word to describe what we see now. Humans do some pretty awful things. But when we decide to, we can do the impossible. It’s time to start doing the impossible.
The same thing is happening in the Salton Sea in California. The dust is already causing surrounding communities to experience super elevated levels of respiratory disease and challenges. Since the Sacramento and San Joaquin River Delta wetlands are all but gone the Salton Sea has become another huge stopping point for migratory birds and now it’s rapidly disappearing as a result of climate change and more fallowed farm land in the Imperial Valley which means less runoff feeding the sea. Oddly enough the agricultural runoff was both sustaining the Salton Sea’s water level and deposited a bunch of harmful chemicals and minerals into the sediment in the Salton Sea. Large areas of exposed lakebed means those chemicals are becoming airborne in dust which impacts people and the environment
😢😢 omg a nightmare for those with allergies.
It would be real easy to build a pipeline from the Gulf of California to the Salton sea and stabilize the water level. Its only 117 miles and most of that could be an open trench. If you dug a trench from the Gulf to the Laguna Salada you could flood it with sea water and turn it into prime beach front property. Then you would only need a pipeline for a few miles to go under the US border. Once the Salton Sea is stabilized people will come back. Of course the salt level will keep rising but so what. It will become like the great salt lake. Once all the fresh water fish die off then the stench will go away.
It needs to dry up, and be cleaned up. It never had water to begin with.
@@Shazzyhtown OMG a nightmare for those with life. ☠️
I'm a California native and only just heard of the Salton Sea a few years ago. It's story is incredible and wild that it took living to my 30's to even realize its existence and the importance of what bringing it back could do for local ecosystems and economies.
People born over the last ten years are going to have a rough time of it later on in there lives.
Mike Anyone who brings another kid into this world is nuts. Who would do that?
@@chinookvalley nope, but many do, and usually the wrong ones.
Yes, they are going to see the human race finally started to die off.
We can thank the rich and powerful for aiding global warming with the careless mismanagement of their industries. Smarter than all other people, but too short sighted to consider the future. Maybe the best culture isn't all it's cracked up to be....
@@chinookvalley So you don't want to come back when you die? I do, unless I end up in a 3rd world country that would suck
To bring in ocean water they would need to filter out many invasive species before adding it to the lake, not doing so could create the same problem regarding migration of the birds.
We definitely need to start working on these climate issues NOW.
And nitrogen cycle, water cycle, soil degradation, chemical & plastic pollution, ocean acidification, habitat destruction/biodiversity loss. The climate is only one facet and really only an indicator that we are fucked it is not the end all be all in environmentalism. We need to make people more aware of the plethora of issues we face.
Yeah that shipped sail decades ago if not longer. Enjoy the short time we have left
Disagree, it is inevitable, we are going through a mass extinction event like the thousands of similar mass extinction events before us, it’s just the earths way of cleaning itself
The time to start was in the 70s when my Blue state began efforts to conserve water, limit waste, cut back greenhouse gas emissions, stop polluting and then clean our lakes and rivers. All over the strenuous resistance and threats of minority Republicans and high pollution industry.
For the Red states run by anti-environment, climate change deniers, it is simply too late to start now.
@@crashman2062 yeah we’ve been off the cliff for many decades. It’s game over when we lose the arctic in the coming years
This is so devastating. It’s what our state capital is named after, it’s what Utah is known for. The Great Salt Like is so vital. I can’t imagine a day that it didn’t exist. How sad would it be to have to talk to our generations below us about the history on it and how it once was. I’ve lived here my whole life and have great memories going to Antelope Island and floating in the lake and seeing all the birds. This would be so devastating if it dried all the way up.
I was there few years ago for couple months during summer I'm from California but went up there fell in love with Utah truly a beautiful place. The salt lake was at low levels then looks a lot worse even since I left . Too bad that's happening its the center piece to it's beauty.
maybe you could rename it the Great Arsenic Basin?
There’s not going to be future generations sadly, Jesus will come soon before and take his people please spread the word and repent
@@Katrinaw510 people have been claiming that since the day christianity was founded. Like literally in the bible jesus claims the end times would come within a single generation
@@user-md3wm7vu1f please I beg of you please don’t be like that and just listen to me I get where you are coming from but just repent please
I swear I've been noticing the sun light seems hotter like temp isn't to over the top but while in direct sun light it's crazy I never had to shield myself from the sun like I have been lately it's just feeling to hot
All the pollution is damaging the outer layer of the atmosphere that was protecting us from the sun’s radiation.
Look up the video (the dimming by Dane Wigington) you will get your answer
It's because polorshift liberal fools
I have Been feeling the same .. the sun is Scotching even at temps in the 80’s
That's normal as we age.
I just passed by the great salt lake today and it’s not nearly as shallow as I thought it would be, I think it’s very slowly refilling up because all of utahs lake refill up during the winter because of all of the heavy snow fall during the winter
"I drove by one part of a 75×35 mile lake and didn't see any problems. I was at ground level so got a real good view of everything. Now I'm going to make a generalization without very little understanding of how things work."
Because of the season, there is water flowing but not nearly enogh to fill it to past levels and the next dry season would take more of the lake ntil eventually it dries completely in the dry season and you only get to see a puddle in the rain season.
Welcome to what we've been breathing for decades here in the mining areas of southern Colorado. The dust is full of deadly, toxic, chemicals and heavy metals. They are starting to revive many of the old mines (1800's) and all that dust is going into our lungs. Our wildlife are dying off and no one questions why? We are suicide for the planet.
As to the dust and it’s impact on humans, the salton sea in ca and it’s effect on the people living in the imperial valley should have been a model and warning for this. Very sad.
The Salton was toxic wet, I can't even imagine what is blowing off there now.
Sounds like the same thing that happened to Owens lake in California. But on a much larger scale. On windy days they have to try and use farming equipment to water it down to keep the toxic dust down.
your wrong nit wit--the city of LA drained it,sent the water to LA and still do--they own the damn valley,owens lake,its theirs--they have spent 400 million on dust migitation ,put a clay cap on most of the dry lake--no farm equipment-my family owns two ranches in owens valley--my father in law was county adminstrator for 33 years,fought the city of LA in court for ever--many books written on the water wars of owens valley--read one
Why is the dust toxic?
I was just there last week. And it looks and smells like death!
When you move masses of people into areas that aren't designed to sustain life, we can't be surprised when a few decades later those places start to stop susatining life.
It's not about the number of people, but mostly about overconsumption. The average American citizen consumes almost 5 times more water than the average French citizen. In Utah, water consumption per capita is even higher than the national average!
If people keep consuming as much water while the state is naturally arid or semi-arid, then it's no surprise that water is becoming scarce.
@Phox So Correct. People were not meant to live in the desert.
@@mrmuffer69 Pretty sure the Egyptians managed for like 5000 years.................................................................. America cant even last 30. lol
What’s that have to do with this lake though? No water is taken from it for humans.
@@commandershepard7728 Aztecs too.
Welp, that's what you get when you overpopulate a region and don't pay attention to all teh damage you're doing. I'd have more sympathy but we all saw this coming in the 1970s.
the planet will survive. humans, probably not
And that’s the 100 💯 truth
HUMANS should be EXTINCT and let the animals have the planet
Good riddance to us.
:) good
the planet eventually will die in one billion years anyway.
we need water trains , there are trax in the middle of the lake .
trains will always be a thing and there’s plenty in utah with routes on the lakes shore .
fill the tanks with pacific ocean water and drive it to the lake and unload .
within a few years of that it will be fixed easy .
Cutting down the rain forest in the Amazon might have something to do with the lack of rain for the rest of the world. I don't see things getting any better anytime soon, keep cutting.
That is indeed what it is. Winds are changing to a new pattern and that area is no longer rich in moisture anymore.
WOW, the lack of understanding of science is staggering.
No wonder they can sell you anything.
@Peter Belanger
This is biblical, GOD is coming back and narcissist to put all their faith in science while denying GOD will find their place in the lake of fire .
nit wit---in the 1930ties the midwest was in a massive drought for 10 years--40 millions acres of farmland was lost--the dustbowl--our farm in Mn was covered in sand,dust--shett happens--read about it--cheers for all you drama kings,queens--i was one of the few to ever water ski the great salt lake!! in the 80ties when full--big ass spiders,shett load of flys,massive stink at the marinas,hell on earth!!!!
No clue if we are experiencing the wrath of our own behavior, the wrath of God, or just the planet heading towards another great reset but whatever the case may be people need to start taking things seriously particularly those in positions of power. It's probably better to approach this more aggressively NOW rather than take too little action and suffer those consequences. Jmho
What I worry is, as fewer and fewer places become habitable, more and more people will flock to the habitable areas but due to supply and demand, only the truly wealthy people will be able to afford a spot and the rest, the poor will suffer the greatest. This I see happening in our life time, so make sure you invest in an good location, as all it takes is a flick of the switch & the world will be in utter chaos. Make sure you have your ducks in a row before the memo reaches the masses because once the idiots start freaking out, its game over.
Yep, all those people in the Southwest will be coming back to Chicago, Milwaukee, and Cleveland.
I’m hoping we get a real killer virus and we won’t have the chance to destroy the entire planet.
No need to worry, cuz it's gonna happen.
I already see a huge influx of people I. My northwestern town
We’ll all suffer together once we can’t grow crops at scale. The riches money is worthless when there’s no food and water. We’ll all be in the same boat. At least those not in bunkers or trying to takeoff to space
This has been happening around the world. Lake Titicaca in Peru has been drastically drying up for years. I am sad to say, but I am glad Americans are finally seeing this at home because when it happens in third world countries it's as if it's not actually happening, nobody cares. And the US is one of the biggest polluters, it must lead by example, we need a global leader for this change because China sure won't do it. Chinese companies go around the world eating up other country's resources, violating foreign fishing and logging laws, and polluting like they own the world.
Uuuh, this isn't any worse than the heat waves in the early 1990s, and this particular heat wave was predicted decades in advance. The early 2030s are going to be closer to the early 90s in temperature, again, all predicted in advance since this is being influence by natural cycles, NOT from CO2, or "climate change." Climate change as the alarmists would have you believe doesn't work so fast that you would see such drastic changes so fast. Only one force has the power to do that, and you'll see that force when you look up in the day time. The sun has been rapidly increasing in solar activity over the past year, and will continue to output more solar energy than normal for the next 1-2 years before it falls again.
Seriously, you people need to pick up a real, actual, science book some time, and stop relying on politicized corporate news to tell you what their "experts" say.
Only people you can blame is us. As the people. We are making earth unlive able
I think I've said it before it's a terrible idea to pump ocean water into the lake you have no idea what marine life as well as bacteria or red tide you could pump into the lake not too mention the salt level would only raise after that water dries up.
The only issue you’ve mention that could present a issue would be introduction of more salt…at at last Morton salt mines the salt from the area so no issue there.
Also if you feed ocean water, the small ecological impact would not be as bad as you think. Brine shrimp will go deeper in the water as the salt will be heavier. And in the rare chance of new marine life being established in now filled GLC from ocean might be sustainable for consumption for animals and people.
But regardless, this plan should have been started 20+ years ago. It’s kind of a drop in bucket at this point now.
I highly doubt it would be that bad. Either way it's starting too late. I don't think you understand the need for this to be fixed you can't magically fix it now that no one listened so you have to try the ocean route which will work. Problem is getting the water there
Did you miss the part where they said that the Great Salt Lake is five times saltier than the ocean is?
Don't be ridiculous, nobody going to bring water to the GSL from the ocean.🤣
Its almost like we shouldn't use the desert and most arid parts of the country for massive agriculture and residential projects.
It wasn’t a desert when consistent snow packs reliably filled up reservoirs each year. Once that stops then the region will become a true desert.
Lol that's literally how it became a desert.
The GSL is a terminal lake, but no one's talking about the water usage of the Wasatch Front population and the reduction over time in the amount of water entering the lake from the rivers. Over the past 30 years, the SL valley has completely been filled out from the east bench to the west side. And there is nothing bu houses from Ogden to SLC. All with unlimited water usage. Economists can tell you that this is a pricing problem.
The LDS social values won't allow for conservation.
Where do they get their water? (Serious question). It sure isn't from the Great Salt Lake.
Philippines is so blessed that nothing like this is happening still rich in natural resources and the beauty of nature is intact though frequently visited by storms.
As a resident of the state of Utah. No one cares and it’s sad and once people start caring, it will be too late
Too busy spreading Mormonism and having too many kids(and sometimes wives).
It was too late a decade ago lol
definitely too late now
A few people cared, more do now…but it already might be too late.
Yup.. much like covid. Nobody cares. 1 million people dead and nobody cares. Just save yourself. There will be no help from partisan leaders. They will be too busy fighting for vote to bother with long term issues.
Because of ignorance and our hubris we have literally let the genie out of the bottle with no way to getting it back. There is a cascade effect in place all throughout the planet and it all started in the Mid-1800's during the Industrial Revolution. Our progress and need for expansion for our civilization may have lead to our own endgame.
@apm dafuq?
This is sad to hear and watch. Piping in ocean water carries so many other issues as well. It could heavily impact the local ecosystem. It would also cost an incredible amount of money to build and maintain the pipeline. Additional costs on water treatment facilities would be very expensive.
Nobody will want to pay for it either so it's probably unlikely to even happen.
I'm not sure if that's a solution that might cause new problems. BUT I don't know how often people need to hear this, climate change will be freaking costy. To watch at solutions in general and always go, nah we can't do that, it costs so much, will cost us more in the end. We call this a Milchmädchenrechnung in Germany. It's a short sighted advantage, that really isn't once you look a bit deeper into it.
I live on the Southwest Washington coast, and I know that never ever would any community or state would allow such a thing. We have our own pressing issues, not least are the declining salmon runs, which like every eco system in the world is faltering and in trouble.
There's no other choice.... piping in ocean water is the last resort to save salt lake period.
@@hit_stick_stepper and the effect on the oceans?
We don't need to go to Mars.
We are making earth into Mars.
But how many indigenous people make the decision of land and public policies? It’s your own fault as people not indigenous of this land. Your time is out.
I absolutely agree. I lived in Tooele and am friends with some of the natives on the local res. Most people don't even know the res in there. I left 2 months ago because I saw this coming. I swear the ancestors warned me. Then these reports started to come out 3 weeks after we left. I was having cardiovascular events and swollen lymph because I am outside alot. It's all stopped now. I feel so much better. This just breaks my heart what they have done to the land and what they see still doing to the natives.
I went to SLC on business a couple months ago and had to see the GSL. It was like seeing ancient remains of a lake. It was heartbreaking.
I see nothing wrong
It's artificial. Not even a hundred years old. Get over it.
@@biggtrux - that is completely not correct
@@biggtrux Even a basic internet search says you're wrong within seconds.
LOL LOL, imagine being butthurt over water not being somewhere. God, you're simple.
I’m not sure which experts they talked to but pipping ocean water in would be a horrible idea. As the lake naturally evaporates, the salinity will increase. Which is already happening but would far worse since you’re now pipping in extra salt from the ocean. Also, the cost to build an aqueduct to fill the lake plus the cost of running pumps would be tremendous.
I'm starting to wonder if somebody told her that as a joke and she took it literally.
And you already know that the USA can't do big things any more. We will never build another Hoover Dam or Golden Gate Bridge or Mount Rushmore or do a Moon landing, again. Smh.
Not only that but if we start taking water from the ocean then the ocean will start to evaporate
@@auroramothergoddess LMAO 😂
The water in this lake is 10× the salt that is in the ocean, I think it's a good idea, the only solution
Good reporting job on the Great Salt Lake. Thank you. ☕️🎏🌻
where is the water getting pumped to?
Pumping sea water to GSL on the surface sounds reasonable but in reality is an impractical pipe dream. It is approximately 600 miles from the ocean to GSL, straight line, but the pipeline to carry it will have to cross the Coast Range, the Sierra Nevada, a few rivers, and go around sensitive ecological areas in California alone. Then it will have to do the same across Nevada before it gets to Utah. That will likely lengthen the actual distance to about 700 miles give or take. Before any construction could start the project would need to be approved by the USEPA, the CalEPA, and whatever environmental protection agencies in Nevada and Utah which will take several years, it will take two to four years to design so after about 6 years they will be ready to start construction. Construction will likely take another 5 to 10 years. The GSL will have completely dried up by the time the project is completed. There are engineering challenges that will probably kill the project before it gets started. There are no pumps capable of lifting (pumping) water approximately 8000 ft vertically in one lift. Assuming there was the pressure required to raise it in one lift would exceed the pipe's pressure rating, so several lift stations would be required and at each lift station there will have to be a small lake to pump into and pump out of. It is not likely that CalEPA or USEPA will approve sea water lakes in the Sierras which would be project death #1. They will encounter similar but not as severe pumping issues in Nevada and I have no idea how receptive Nevada would be, but I doubt they would approve it. Assuming the engineering and environmental issues are addressed and the project gets approved, then the next issue is cost. The California State Water Project, which is of similar size, was funded by $1.75 billion in bonds in 1960 or about $20 billion in 2022 dollars. The pipe line for pumping sea water to the GSL will probably be more like $100 billion, Project Death #2.. Then there's the maintenance cost, and the cost of electricity consumed by the pumping stations. The SWP consumes approx. 11,000 GWHr every year. The GSL system will likely exceed 30,000 GWHr per year primarily due to having to lift the water over the Sierra Nevada mountains. Utah's FY 2022-23 state budget is about $26 billion which means yearly maintenance and operational costs will end up being a significant percentage of the budget, taking funds away from other programs, Project Death #3, Again assuming the engineering, environmental, fiscal, and construction issues are addressed and the pipeline built it will be too late because the lake will have completely dried up, and the plants and animals will be dead. That is bad news and good news. The good news is that one will not have to worry about the marine species that will be introduced with the sea water will cause the death of the native species which have evolved and adapted over many millennia. Unfortunately since the marine species are adapted to cold temps (~ 40-50 deg F) they will probably not be able to survive the much warmer water that will result in the summer heat due to the shallow water depth of the lake. So there will be stagnant warm sea water with a lot of dead and dying plants and animals, that won't smell pretty and it won't provide the necessary food sources for the migrating fowl, Project Death #4.
People have suggested several water conservation measures that could be implemented fairly cheaply so implement them. California has the same issue with dry lake bottoms, primarily the now dry Owens Lake producing toxic dust. The state did a test program where they planted plant species that could survive in the conditions and require very little water to keep them alive. The results were that the area that had been planted produced almost no wind borne dust. Maybe find a way to adapt that for the GSL. It is low cost and easy to maintain and it can be done for WAY less than $100 billion dollars.
In so many words, what you're saying is, "Forget it". LOL
I scoffed so hard when she said that. It's just a bad idea on many levels.
Just think, people are fighting over small portions of food at the buffet court over food that is plentiful.
But when our waters inland have dried out, food shortage will be a thing. People will do crazy things when they get hungry...
When you can't buy food, people will just steal it from the grocery stores. Grocery stores will then go out of business, and there'll be no more food.
@@marcusrosales3344 Well, when all the grocery stores are out of food, then the next target will be (Drum roll please) people with food urban dwellers/suburban home are for sure. I would say, it is every man/woman for themself (cops will be protecting their own, so forget about calling them).
The birds will be fine. Really??
Piping water from the ocean would be a huge project. They mentioned arsenic as one of the toxins in the lake dust but didn't mention how poisonous it is.
Where are they going to get the supplies and labor to build the pipeline. It's a great idea, I'd love to see it happen, but who wants to work?
@@eckankar7756 Droughts don't make supplies go away, and there's no labor shortage for jobs that pay decently. Try not to be so utterly stupid.
@@eckankar7756 the idea sounds nice but environmentally speaking, I don't think the short term solution outweighs the cost. Go figure, desert areas don't have much access to water and the water it does have shouldn't be wasted because it's a limited resource. Leave the ocean out of human greed and poor planning.
@@bettathanu2244 I totally get it, desert= dry to begin with...but....now I'm thinking a HUGE like water tube from the ocean to SLC that is clear and you can rent out a boat or capsule to ride the journey!!! Fast or slow, it'd be something people my pay to do, I'd do it. Drift or rush from California to SLC. Only downer would be the mormon hate and judgment you'd get if you weren't a member.
@@eckankar7756 sounds fun... but plastics degrade and it wouldn't be worth it in any form or shape. The time it would take to construct, the architecture, machinery, excavation and pollution...... it's the extremely opposite of the issues New Orleans has. We need to stop trying to bend things to our will and respect nature as the powerful deadly force it is. IMHO 🙂
Pumping ocean water is a testament to how reactive (vs proactive) humanity is.
That movie Mad Max is looking more and more like a prophecy.
That movie is in Australia Australia has tons of desert land and they have for the last 50 years since the original one
People who depend on this resource need to be prepared to manage and care for it. We should all let this teach us that water is limited, that it deserves mindfulness and respect. You can do more than the state and the rich can to conserve and create opportunities for your neighbors and for your families. This is America. You can do it, Utah!
Gee, imagine that. The climate continues to change like it always has and we continue to complain that the climate changes.