It’s a good theory but I just can’t imagine doctor monkey being evil. He was the monkey who discovered how to shoot projectiles through other monkeys. I believe that revolutionary discovery like that is too helpful to the monkeys for a secret bloons supporter to reveal, even if they’re trying to make themselves look good.
Yes, he could have struck at any time, but It's also a possibility he doesn't want the monkeys dead, but rather wants their trust... for something greater. Now Dr. Monkey can gain all the monkey's trust, (as in their eyes, without him they would not prevail) he can have the ability to "rule the world" or some other villainous dominance. In the end, it's only a theory.
its either that he did this research to implement into bloons, and let monkeys use it just for trust too, technology doesnt have to be used only on one side, especially that he may just keep the war ongoing simply to control both sides, united monkeys against one simple threat are easier to manipulate since they have goal to achieve at all cost
I might be stupid but I don't really think this theory make sense. It is not because it is the only monkey alongside the supermonkey to have travelled the world that he has to know the origins of bloons by doing so. It is a fact that bloons are everywhere but it is not enough to go everywhere to know where they come from. For exemple in Bloons Adventure Time TD, Bloons came throught a portal alongside fighting monkeys. On top of that Phayze can create portals, so it is possible that the bloons does not even come from our world. Also it is true that bloons evolve alongside monkeys but it is the same for every war, both sides evolve to match and overcome the opponent so if in the future the war continue then monkeys and bloons will to evolve.
dr monkey and the super monkeys have the most to be gained from a monkey vs bloon war. they get paid a bunch to research and build stuff to kill each other. If dr.monkey have the power to invent the anti bloon, what do you think he cant invent? we also saw a monkey operated portal in the latest map in v45 so thats something
Speaking of Dr. Monkey and Supermonkey travelling across the world together, i got one realization: - In Bloons Supermonkey 2, When you finish Monkey Lane and Frozen Fields, you get Ice Monkey and Storm Monkey respectively. Before either of them was unlocked, Ice Monkey was frozen in an ice cube, and Storm Monkey was trapped in an electric cage. .....who do you think could've captured them? If Dr. Monkey travelled all over the world with Supermonkey, how come did neither of them noticed Ice and Storm's situations? Perhaps if Dr. Monkey hides their location info from everyone including Supermonkey? Plus, in Bloons Pop: - Dr. Monkey occasionally tells you to keep an eye on the Bloontonium Collectors in Bloons Pop, and in Bloons Monkey City's MvM system, **you use Bloontonium to make more Bloons to attack OTHER MONKEY CITIES...**
great theory, however, you have many proofs as to how, but few as to why. i don't think a monkey would betray their own kind without a reason, even more so a genius like dr. monkey
OK I had my hopes up but I'd uh, just like to point out that there is a contradiction already at 0:09 where you say Dr. Monkey originated in Bloons Supermonkey 2. He did not originate in Bloons Supermonkey 2. He originated in Bloons Super Monkey 2, at least from our perspective. 0:41 it's more like more things got HIDDEN about the bloons really lol. at least to the public. dr. monkey surely learned many new things about the Bloons for his own nefarious means 0:53 yeah that 1:37 well, the maps are probably in different parts of the world 1:45 she definitely does. i mean, in btd5 deluxe, we are informed that the map Ascension is known as "The Home of the Bloons". That among many other sources shows that the habitat of the Bloons is very well-known, but apprently not to the general populus in the BTD6 generation. 2:08 Dr. Monkey is confirmed to be the inventor of the Tech Terror, yes. 2:13 this is not even close to the beginning... the Tech Terror was invented in the BTD5 generation as far as we know. 2:52 I think the Bloon Skins are made by monkeys. The lore explanation is that the monkeys convince the gullible Bloons to wear the skins as "disguises" that don't work. So this isn't proof of Dr. monkey's culpability, although he likely attacked Quincy and made him into Cyber Quincy on purpose, or at least a member of the Bloonminati attacked Quincy and had Dr. Monkey make Cyber Quincy. 3:01 I mean, Bloons DO have the power of mimicry, to be fair, so even without Dr. Monkey likely being a huge help for the Bloonminati's monkey-made Bloons (which to be fair the wild Bloons might be mimicking) the Bloons would still definitely be progressing, out of natural selection/adaptation/whatever. 3:06 ...ok we've gone wildly off course now lol sry, um, so, their "creator", no. He definitely could've been the one who founded the Bloonminati timeline-wise and put the creation of monkey-made Bloons into action, but he didn't "create Bloons", they're wild animals. And um, an insider? The Bloons aren't evil OR smart enough to have an "insider". 3:15 I mean, your theory itself is technically correct enough, although proving that he's THE villain is a little bit more specific (but close enough since his scientific genius is such a big part of how the evil of the Bloonminati is possible). The issue comes in with specific evidence points and branch theories that don't line up... Plus him being an insider for the Bloons wouldn't make him "The TRUE Villain" even if the evil was on the side of the wild Bloons (which it isn't). The true evil there would probably be a type of Bloon we haven't seen.
0:09 Yes, Dr.Monkey originated from Bloons Supermonkey 2. Saying he didn't because that's not our perspective is like saying Quincy didn't originate from BTD6 because the 'lore' video takes place before he was a hero. BSM2 was Dr.Monkeys first appearance, therefore that is where the 'idea' of him originates. 1:37 Yes, but my point was Dr.Monkey is the ONLY (known) monkey to have traversed the entirety of their world after the events of (besides supermonkey). 1:45 Rhetorical question, I was hinting towards he obviously knows, but how is it not even Quincy (Father of Quincy) knows this information? (Thus either the truth is being kept, or NK forgot this information 😅) 2:13 We really do not know, so I only said it seems that way, as Quincy (Father of Quincy) does not refrence how long it has been since the other generations. 3:01 I doubt natural selection is the reason, but it's a possibility. 3:06 It's not THAT far off. It is said that bloons were created by a "sentient rubbery AI that can reproduce quickly". (June 3rd 2022 Ninja Kiwi blog, also Bloons Fandom Page) This same blog shows bloons come from an alternate universe. Monkeys do have the ability to traverse these alternate universes (as seen in Bloons Adventure Time TD) Dr. Monkey very well could have created an AI to do this exactly, maybe trying to find a powerful enemy to look like the hero 3:15 If I'm being totally honest, the title was made to be dramatic, but the main point of the theory is that Dr. Monkey may not be as much as a 'good' guy as the other monkeys may think. Thank you for taking the time and effort to point out the flaws of this theory. This is exactly the type of feedback I needed. 👍
@@VR_Man_ Sorry for the delay, wasn't able to comment. 0:09 You misunderstood what I said, I'm agreeing that at least from our perspective that is his origin (although the earliest we see him is presumably in the new animation I guess). The issue is that you said he originated in Bloons Supermonkey 2. He did not. He originated in Bloons Super Monkey 2. 1:37 I mean, Ice (super) Monkey and Storm as well in Bloons Supermonkey 2, but I mean still I don't quite get the significance, especially since that isn't even the entire world it's just a certain amount of area. 1:45 Yeah exactly! I see. 2:13 Bloons TD5 is very far along the generations, though, it's a far cry to consider it the beginning. 3:01 Well, in the game right after the first Bloons game where towers used camo (the Cannon and Blade Shooter in Bloons TD3) the Bloons became camo as well, for example. 3:06 This is not confirmed, actually, it is a potential hypothetical that NK provides, not the truth. The full sentence is "Perhaps the blooniverse is the future, when humans wipe themselves out by producing a rubbery AI that can think for itself and reproduce almost instantly!". NK loves speaking in hypotheticals and rhetorics and half-turths and stuff. Furthermore, you state that the same blog shows they come from an alternate universe, but this is not stated. What IS stated is that the Blooniverse is most likely a separate universe from any human universe, in that same question itself, and then the hypothetical is explaining how the Blooniverse would've been a post-apocalyptic version of a human universe, hypothetically, which has SOME merit but isn't where I think the lore is at overall, could change my mind though 3:15 Certs Thanks for making the theory, Bloons Lore is very fun d(^v^d)
the monkey Barron from balloons airship might have a connection with Dr monkey he also makes another appearance in battles 1 but the question is where does Dr monkey get the resources to make the balloons monkey Baron probably helped in the creation of the balloons he was also most probably at the beginning along with Dr monkey another point of evidence in bloody puddles when you try to remove the car the helicopter malfunctions there's a probability that doctor monkey was behind that malfunction basically in case invasion doctor monkey has a remote control to stop all machines he must have accidentally pressed it which caused the helicopter to malfunction another point of evidence is Bloons Monkey City it looks like before there were other crimes of monkeys because why do we attack other cities? Does probably another side of monkeys that we don't know of that are working with Dr monkey and it's not just that I'm making this up there's an upgrade on the banana farm upgrade the "Banana Republic" are they talking in about the capital or something else something like before the balloons even existed the monkeys were split it's a different Clans one of them being "Banana Republic"
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Not to mention that there is also a challenge that involves Dr. Monkey being guilty of making Bloonarious sludge
this video feels like an analog horror
Maybe dr monkey is actually the evil monkey baron's (from hot air bloon mobile) dad and evil runs in the family or something idk
It’s a good theory but I just can’t imagine doctor monkey being evil. He was the monkey who discovered how to shoot projectiles through other monkeys. I believe that revolutionary discovery like that is too helpful to the monkeys for a secret bloons supporter to reveal, even if they’re trying to make themselves look good.
Same thing goes for the anti bloon gunner
Yes, he could have struck at any time, but It's also a possibility he doesn't want the monkeys dead, but rather wants their trust... for something greater. Now Dr. Monkey can gain all the monkey's trust, (as in their eyes, without him they would not prevail) he can have the ability to "rule the world" or some other villainous dominance. In the end, it's only a theory.
its either that he did this research to implement into bloons, and let monkeys use it just for trust too, technology doesnt have to be used only on one side, especially that he may just keep the war ongoing simply to control both sides, united monkeys against one simple threat are easier to manipulate since they have goal to achieve at all cost
I might be stupid but I don't really think this theory make sense. It is not because it is the only monkey alongside the supermonkey to have travelled the world that he has to know the origins of bloons by doing so. It is a fact that bloons are everywhere but it is not enough to go everywhere to know where they come from. For exemple in Bloons Adventure Time TD, Bloons came throught a portal alongside fighting monkeys. On top of that Phayze can create portals, so it is possible that the bloons does not even come from our world.
Also it is true that bloons evolve alongside monkeys but it is the same for every war, both sides evolve to match and overcome the opponent so if in the future the war continue then monkeys and bloons will to evolve.
dr monkey and the super monkeys have the most to be gained from a monkey vs bloon war. they get paid a bunch to research and build stuff to kill each other. If dr.monkey have the power to invent the anti bloon, what do you think he cant invent? we also saw a monkey operated portal in the latest map in v45 so thats something
Well the monkeys like to use bloons to make stuff and most likely he just used ddt metal
Speaking of Dr. Monkey and Supermonkey travelling across the world together, i got one realization:
- In Bloons Supermonkey 2, When you finish Monkey Lane and Frozen Fields, you get Ice Monkey and Storm Monkey respectively. Before either of them was unlocked, Ice Monkey was frozen in an ice cube, and Storm Monkey was trapped in an electric cage. .....who do you think could've captured them? If Dr. Monkey travelled all over the world with Supermonkey, how come did neither of them noticed Ice and Storm's situations? Perhaps if Dr. Monkey hides their location info from everyone including Supermonkey?
Plus, in Bloons Pop:
- Dr. Monkey occasionally tells you to keep an eye on the Bloontonium Collectors in Bloons Pop, and in Bloons Monkey City's MvM system, **you use Bloontonium to make more Bloons to attack OTHER MONKEY CITIES...**
great theory, however, you have many proofs as to how, but few as to why. i don't think a monkey would betray their own kind without a reason, even more so a genius like dr. monkey
OK I had my hopes up but I'd uh, just like to point out that there is a contradiction already at 0:09 where you say Dr. Monkey originated in Bloons Supermonkey 2. He did not originate in Bloons Supermonkey 2. He originated in Bloons Super Monkey 2, at least from our perspective.
0:41 it's more like more things got HIDDEN about the bloons really lol. at least to the public. dr. monkey surely learned many new things about the Bloons for his own nefarious means
0:53 yeah that
1:37 well, the maps are probably in different parts of the world
1:45 she definitely does. i mean, in btd5 deluxe, we are informed that the map Ascension is known as "The Home of the Bloons". That among many other sources shows that the habitat of the Bloons is very well-known, but apprently not to the general populus in the BTD6 generation.
2:08 Dr. Monkey is confirmed to be the inventor of the Tech Terror, yes.
2:13 this is not even close to the beginning... the Tech Terror was invented in the BTD5 generation as far as we know.
2:52 I think the Bloon Skins are made by monkeys. The lore explanation is that the monkeys convince the gullible Bloons to wear the skins as "disguises" that don't work. So this isn't proof of Dr. monkey's culpability, although he likely attacked Quincy and made him into Cyber Quincy on purpose, or at least a member of the Bloonminati attacked Quincy and had Dr. Monkey make Cyber Quincy.
3:01 I mean, Bloons DO have the power of mimicry, to be fair, so even without Dr. Monkey likely being a huge help for the Bloonminati's monkey-made Bloons (which to be fair the wild Bloons might be mimicking) the Bloons would still definitely be progressing, out of natural selection/adaptation/whatever.
3:06 ...ok we've gone wildly off course now lol sry, um, so, their "creator", no. He definitely could've been the one who founded the Bloonminati timeline-wise and put the creation of monkey-made Bloons into action, but he didn't "create Bloons", they're wild animals. And um, an insider? The Bloons aren't evil OR smart enough to have an "insider".
3:15 I mean, your theory itself is technically correct enough, although proving that he's THE villain is a little bit more specific (but close enough since his scientific genius is such a big part of how the evil of the Bloonminati is possible). The issue comes in with specific evidence points and branch theories that don't line up... Plus him being an insider for the Bloons wouldn't make him "The TRUE Villain" even if the evil was on the side of the wild Bloons (which it isn't). The true evil there would probably be a type of Bloon we haven't seen.
0:09 Yes, Dr.Monkey originated from Bloons Supermonkey 2. Saying he didn't because that's not our perspective is like saying Quincy didn't originate from BTD6 because the 'lore' video takes place before he was a hero. BSM2 was Dr.Monkeys first appearance, therefore that is where the 'idea' of him originates.
1:37 Yes, but my point was Dr.Monkey is the ONLY (known) monkey to have traversed the entirety of their world after the events of (besides supermonkey).
1:45 Rhetorical question, I was hinting towards he obviously knows, but how is it not even Quincy (Father of Quincy) knows this information? (Thus either the truth is being kept, or NK forgot this information 😅)
2:13 We really do not know, so I only said it seems that way, as Quincy (Father of Quincy) does not refrence how long it has been since the other generations.
3:01 I doubt natural selection is the reason, but it's a possibility.
3:06 It's not THAT far off. It is said that bloons were created by a "sentient rubbery AI that can reproduce quickly". (June 3rd 2022 Ninja Kiwi blog, also Bloons Fandom Page) This same blog shows bloons come from an alternate universe. Monkeys do have the ability to traverse these alternate universes (as seen in Bloons Adventure Time TD) Dr. Monkey very well could have created an AI to do this exactly, maybe trying to find a powerful enemy to look like the hero
3:15 If I'm being totally honest, the title was made to be dramatic, but the main point of the theory is that Dr. Monkey may not be as much as a 'good' guy as the other monkeys may think.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to point out the flaws of this theory. This is exactly the type of feedback I needed. 👍
@@VR_Man_ Sorry for the delay, wasn't able to comment.
0:09 You misunderstood what I said, I'm agreeing that at least from our perspective that is his origin (although the earliest we see him is presumably in the new animation I guess). The issue is that you said he originated in Bloons Supermonkey 2. He did not. He originated in Bloons Super Monkey 2.
1:37 I mean, Ice (super) Monkey and Storm as well in Bloons Supermonkey 2, but I mean still I don't quite get the significance, especially since that isn't even the entire world it's just a certain amount of area.
1:45 Yeah exactly! I see.
2:13 Bloons TD5 is very far along the generations, though, it's a far cry to consider it the beginning.
3:01 Well, in the game right after the first Bloons game where towers used camo (the Cannon and Blade Shooter in Bloons TD3) the Bloons became camo as well, for example.
3:06 This is not confirmed, actually, it is a potential hypothetical that NK provides, not the truth. The full sentence is "Perhaps the blooniverse is the future, when humans wipe themselves out by producing a rubbery AI that can think for itself and reproduce almost instantly!". NK loves speaking in hypotheticals and rhetorics and half-turths and stuff.
Furthermore, you state that the same blog shows they come from an alternate universe, but this is not stated. What IS stated is that the Blooniverse is most likely a separate universe from any human universe, in that same question itself, and then the hypothetical is explaining how the Blooniverse would've been a post-apocalyptic version of a human universe, hypothetically, which has SOME merit but isn't where I think the lore is at overall, could change my mind though
3:15 Certs
Thanks for making the theory, Bloons Lore is very fun d(^v^d)
Dude that seems so true that now that I see it
You forgot the check the quests.
hmmm i don't exactly believe it but I'd love to see how you can expand on this
Then who exactly is professor evil?
some random nobody
Some rich guy who gambles his medallions against you 🤷♂️
@@VR_Man_ LMAO good one
the monkey Barron from balloons airship might have a connection with Dr monkey he also makes another appearance in battles 1 but the question is where does Dr monkey get the resources to make the balloons monkey Baron probably helped in the creation of the balloons he was also most probably at the beginning along with Dr monkey another point of evidence in bloody puddles when you try to remove the car the helicopter malfunctions there's a probability that doctor monkey was behind that malfunction basically in case invasion doctor monkey has a remote control to stop all machines he must have accidentally pressed it which caused the helicopter to malfunction another point of evidence is Bloons Monkey City it looks like before there were other crimes of monkeys because why do we attack other cities? Does probably another side of monkeys that we don't know of that are working with Dr monkey and it's not just that I'm making this up there's an upgrade on the banana farm upgrade the "Banana Republic" are they talking in about the capital or something else something like before the balloons even existed the monkeys were split it's a different Clans one of them being "Banana Republic"
Bro theorizing about bloons lore💀
I guess it is kinda warranted with the reveal of an animated series.
given the sheer amount of evidence that you managed to put together from a minute-long video I'm inclined to believe you
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I’m confused
So this is some egad stuff
And Dr Evil exists
Omfg I never thought like this
This video would be better if it didnt have annoying ass tv static sounds
there is a possibility that both cyber quincy and the DDT skin look similar bc of dr. evil from bloons td battles
Did you delete your videos?
@@michalpetrik4291 Yes, I've decided to restart with better quality content, my old videos were very grainy and low quality.
@@VR_Man_oh. And why did you block me on discord
interesting theory but that sound when you were saying something is awful and hurts my ears