Boxing. 1 few basic techniques to learn (plus bonus for strikes being fist techniques) 2 heavy focus on footwork, which means better movement overall, and better stamina for running/move away 3 because most people on the street would punch you rather than kick you, boxers would probably have better defence than most kickboxers/muay thai/mma practitioners
Well since MMA can be a hybrid of any martial arts, i would say MMA because a person who just trains boxing and wrestling basics and nothing else will be most prepared in a short amount of time. I think boxing alone is too limited, and so is wrestling.
@@stanclark3992 I saw previous video. My point is that the average person is not going to leg kick you. Besides, leg kicks are not so efficient especially if the boxer closes the distance and throws straight techniques. Moreover, the context of the video you're referring to is different to that of a street fight. Gabriel was speaking of pro athletes fighting in kickboxing. Again, PRO ATHLETES, not random John Does in the street. Just because Buakaw brutalizes people with his round kicks, it doesn't mean that anybody who throws a round kick is as good as Buakaw.
Unless you're trained enough in these exact basics(you built your muscle memory) with good technique and been in an all out sparring I don't think you would be showing much in a fight
Ya agreed, with a little sparring you learn your distance, timing, accuracy and not blinking when punches are coming at you, a lot of the somewhat basic things that 99% of “street bullies” aren’t even aware of
Experience is what count the most , a average dude that has street fight many times is more dangerous that a guy that just do as sport and never had a fight
@Mumbai Indian street food I started karate with 5 muai thay with 14 mma with 18 , and what you say is not fully true , you never know what’s can happen in your life , everybody can find in a bad day and everybody can do a mistake or even just be unlucky and finish in a street fight situation , don’t be a judge my brother , But yes a person that surch for it has a problem , but finish in a street fight is always possible
not really, i fought on the street against 2 guys easy fight no injurys them i was too cooky and stay their, what happen? more 2 guys 2+2 = 4, so i decided to run i broke my ankle. dont run, just fight.
Yoo, perfect statement 😀 this is why I would also suggest to avoid brawls, even if you're I'm a fight, maintain distance and have the ability to stay and get back at your feet
Most attacks happen suddenly and without warning from very close range. Obviously if it's a drunk guy at a bar or an angry guy on the street getting in your face the best thing to do is to deescalate and leave, but if it's someone who wants to knock you out or incapacitate you or kill you and who isn't looking for a fair fight they are going to get as close to you as possible without letting you know they're even a threat before initiating an attack. It's hard to run away when someone is already on top of you.
Agree with all your points here. Biggest oversight non-fighters make is that confidence and overall fitness are the most important aspects of self-defence, especially in the pre-fight stage where the opponent is sizing you up. They see chin up, straight spine, steady eye contact, and relaxed but serious response to threats (verbal and non-verbal) and most potential aggressors or even opportunists will just back down or find an easier target.
@@midnut9036 fighter don't do this in the ring but many sure as hell do during the stare down. They are fighters, not victims. This video is about self-defence. The first rule of self-defence is don't attract the attention of potential attackers. Being completely unremarkable is one way, but looking like a tough out for the attacker also works and you get the side-benefit of feeling good about yourself and looking good in non-combat scenarios (like job interviews and meeting women).
@@Nergal123 every stance has a weakness. But also confidence walking down a street looks a lot different than confidence in a fighting stance. Clearly I was talking about the pre-fight stage.
@@Nergal123 my man!! I was just thinking: ““Someone comes up to me aggressively with their chin up and spine straight...imma have to give very serious consideration to administering a very heavy short right hook to said chin/jaw...followed by a Sub Zero style spine-rip Fatality to finish.” 🤷♂️😲😆
In a fight-or-flight situation, the brain reverts to the basics. Boxing keeps things basic (in a good way). You learn to avoid punches (bobbing, weaving, catching, etc.), movement and footwork (incredibly important yet incredibly underrated), speed and accuracy, endurance, and generating immense power even with short, tight punches. The simplicity of boxing is its strength, in my opinion. I also think boxing is best for trying to fend off multiple attackers. Kicking is dangerous in a self defence situation, because it greatly increases your chances of ending up on the ground. With wrestling, the _point_ is to go to the ground, which is really bad against multiple attackers or if a friend of your attacker decides to jump in. Lastly, as we all know, running away is the best defense, and boxers do the most roadwork (unless you're training MT in Thailand, of course). All of this is just like, my opinion, man.
Exactly. In a fight-or-flight situation, your coordination goes to shit, and your legs are weak, so any kick would be a liability. The most simple things are the only ones you have a reasonable chance of doing, so boxing it is. I'd add to that some sort of wrestling, preferably greco or judo. If you freeze, which is as likely a response as fight or flight, there is a good probability they'll get their hands on you, which, if you're trained, would kick out a reflex response and you could throw them even in your high-adrenaline situation.
@@lebatcritique I do agree that Boxing is a really good sport to take down average punks but saying kicks will increase your chances of loosing balance is like saying you'll get clipped on the left side of your face or body when you throw a left punch. Your technically correct but most people you would probably get into a fight with in the streets have terrible reactions and are in a much worse condition than the average fighter. So their responses to fight or flight would be way worse than yours
@@kermit1211 you make a great point, but you are missing part of the argument made by the OC, which is that fight-or-flight reaction will weaken your legs tremendously. I've experienced it just last week when I did my first hard boxing sparrings against guys I didn't know and who were much more experienced. The most noticeable impact the nerves had on me was that my legs weren't very responsive. I could stay grounded, but not have fine motor control over my legs. Which means my legwork immediately went to shit. Even if I had practiced kicking in the gym, I'm fairly certain my balance would have been compromised. What I experienced is the normal reaction when people do their first intimidating hard sparring (my coach has confirmed he knew exactly that it would do that to me, just like it did to him and everybody else). And that's in a controlled environment, when your life isn't at stake at all. Imagine how it would feel in the street! Seriously, we all underestimate the physiological effects of fear in a dangerous situation. But let's imagine for one second that you have done a lot of intimidated hard sparring sessions, even full-on matches, and the nerves aren't much of an issue (that's assuming that being calm in a match with rules would transfer to your being calm in a street situation, which is not a given by any means). Then yes, I would agree that you could and should use your kicks in a street situation if you are well trained, IF there is only ONE opponent. If there're several of them, then kicking will undermine your mobility, and someone might pull or push you while you are kicking another, making you lose balance. So yeah, to me boxing is the better option. Not to mention that since, as you said yourself, most people who would fight you on the streets have terrible reactions and are in a much worse condition than the average fighter, being a good boxer would be more than enough to deal with them, while taking minimum risk.
@@lebatcritique and again, you're not even that good of a kicker to begin with so ofc your reactions are gonna be different in fight or flight. Also you're new to hard sparring so those reactions are expected from you
@@kermit1211 With respect, I think you are missing the point once again. This was a boxing sparring, I wasn't expected to kick anyway, but I WAS expecting to be able to use my legs properly for my footwork. Which I was trained to do, much like kickboxers are trained to use their legs for kicking. Yet I had much less control over my legs than I expected, much like a kicker would -- except it's more dangerous to lack motor control when you try to kick. As for my being new to hard sparring... Yes, but many people who train will never even do that kind of hard sparring. Especially in kickboxing -- usually, you get to do hard sparring more quickly in a boxing gym than in a kickboxing gym. And that's if you want to. This video are about people who want to practice a combat sport for mostly self-defense reasons, not necessarily to enter competitions. It's usually the more serious fighters who do the hard sparring. For professional fighters, I agree that the nerves are less of an issue. But for the vast majority of people who train, they won't have much experience with that much fear. Which makes boxing more appropriate for two reasons: if you practice boxing, you are more likely to have experienced hard sparring and not lose your nerves if you do lose your nerves, then throwing punches will be much safer than kicking, due to the aforementioned loss of fine motor-control I will also reiterate that even if you are highly experienced in hard sparring and keep perfect motor control, punching is the much safer option if there are more than one opponent.
@@hansjurgen8555 which is a stupid hypothetical impossible question to answer in the first place. To many variables in a self defense situation for there to ever be a conclusion on which "style" is the best.
@@hannibalwantsahuggrande3433 yeah true, there are many variables involved but of course you can "rate" martial arts and their utility in "most" scenarios. for example, i prefere a fighting style which involves striking as well as grappling like muay thai. so yea there are many variables but sure to say that some martial arts and their way of getting taught in the average school is better than others.
One very important element of self defense is conditioning. Just being able to be calm and not out of gas will go a long way regardless of martial art style. I agree the best self defense is 100 m dash.
Yes. Also being calm and the ability to de escalate a situation. But if shit hits the fan a solid right hand followed by the ol 100m sprint is the best defense in my opinion.
You can't go wrong with those 4 But pro mma fighters also adapt their training to what they are best at,if they are good at striking their focus will be on that,they will not try to master the whole bjj but only certain segments,for example transitions and escapes Although this new generation of young fighters strives to be as complete as possible,we will see how it goes,and what the roster will look like in the UFC in a couple of years
Running away isn't always the answer, guys. What if you need to protect someone? What if you're surrounded? What if you don't know the area, but assume they do? What if you've got a bum leg? What if they're taller/skinnier than you and can out-run you? I get it, running away should ALWAYS be considered, but I'm willing to bet half of you that preach "always run," like it's simply that easy, have never been in an actual street fight. Once you know it's on (secret; that's the best self defence technique), attack first, attack hard, then GTFO if you can. Your life is more important than legality. And if you can make the case that you're already "in combat," aka; cornered, the other person has obvious intent to do bodily harm, then throwing the first punch is justified.
Yeah not sure about running away. I like the approach of talk your way out. That's what I've done in the past. But if that doesn't work I say of course defend yourself.
For me, I got far more out of boxing than Muay Thai as a beginner simply because Muay Thai is overwhelming. I feel like if you dedicated a lot of time to it, it would be more effective than boxing. At 6 months of Muay Thai I fell like I'd be setting myself up for disaster trying to use kicks and other stuff in a fight. Whereas with boxing, I felt confident in applying what I learned.
I would say it's the clinch that makes MT so special. Most altercations leading to physical harm happen at very close range. Also the learning curve for the 4 martial arts differ. A basic understanding of the ground game should help one stand ground against an average person on the street if at all it ends in a takedown, the same can't be said of boxing, kick boxing or MT where there's always a puncher's chance.
I agree that ground skill is useful. Now I'm not sure what you meant by 'puncher's chance'. If you mean to say that the average person could get lucky and knock out a boxer, I would not completely disagree but I have never heard of it happening unless it's coming from a blind spot. Whereas if you rely on judo or BJJ you need to involve a number of body parts and generate a lot of tension, which leads to a risk of injury and something going wrong as the movements are more complex. Like perhaps you sweep someone and they fall awkwardly and end up breaking your knee by accident. Or you tear your shoulder throwing the guy or you get bitten on the ground. When you are semi-stationary on the ground you are more vulnerable to bites, groin grabs, eye gouging, head butts etc. whereas standing up the guy cannot catch your shoe with his teeth; punches happen far too rapidly and you can protect your vital points with your free arm. The worst thing that can happen when throwing a punch is you'll hurt your hand.
about physical altercations beginning at very close range - I believe that also gives the edge to muay thai not only for the clinching but for the elbow strikes, which are very short-range and very, very damaging (can literally break someone's face ie. end the fight right there(
Personal opinion if you want good self defense in the fastest most efficent way possible. Learn how to do muay thai low kicks Learn how to punch like a boxer Learn the pure basics of wrestling if u dedicate a whole year to this you will already be better at fighting then most of the average citizens
I love this topic. It's such a fun debate. I actually agree with everything you said. the one thing i want to add is the importance of strength and conditioning. yes it is important to train a martial art to learn how to defend yourself, but it's absolutely useless if you're not conditioned and physically strong. furthermore, the confidence you gain and the respect you get from people will help prevent altercations. I'm not saying big muscles make you a good fighter, but they certainly make people perceive you as a tough guy and will thus cause them to think twice before disrespecting you. yes practice some form of striking art for self defense, but you should also dedicate two- three days to strength training. strength training will make you a better martial artist and will give you the confidence to conduct yourself like someone who is not an easy target. if you are someone who competes at the amateur or pro level than I understand why you wouldn't want to lift weights and risk getting bulky. but for the average Joe who just wants to defend themselves, weight training will be extremely beneficial.
Perfect analysis! I would of put them in the same order too. On the street most people without former training use their hands and seldom will kick and those kicks are usually ineffective soccer like kicks until they get you on the ground, then you can get stomped.
My classement would be in the reverse order for pure self-defence situation. Like you explained, you need time to become proficient enough in MMA compared to boxing, and in majority of those fight happen between not physically conditioned people for a very short time. Keeping things simple is always the best in this case, when your goals are not to competing against people who knows what they are doing.
After watching a footage where 2 Brazilian MMA fighters got killed in a road rage because they were too cocky.. I can say say that 100m dash is the best for self defense.
@@cameronkazan1630 It was uploaded on a subreddit called 'Brutal Beatdowns'. They got killed and stomped by 4-5 men at a gas station because they were too cocky.
You have a very pleasant voice for video presentations and I love the way you are very respectful of different sides of the argument. Was a very entertaining and informative video. I’ll be subscribing for sure.
I think good cardio/strength and conditioning, and even a little knowledge can take you far against someone that is totally untrained! Great video again Gabriel.
This is a relastic review, which I respect. I still think, that the advantage a boxer has in the beginning of a fight, is superior. The first punch is much faster than any other sport on this list can do.
I've seen boxers try to transition into kickboxing and their problem is *too much* head movement. Kickboxing necessarily has less head movement because there are more variables. A quick duck in boxing that will clear any punch will move right into a knee.
Varga made a video on this, can’t remember what it’s called though. Basically, do minimal dead movements and it’s easier to not get hit in a duck if you lower your guard below the top of your head
Krav Maga varies a lot in quality. There are definitely a lot of "stop any attacker with one weird trick!" types where the trick is a groin kick or eye gouge. There are also a lot of teachers with experience in the ring or cage that focus on fundamental strikes and grappling, how to get out of bad positions if caught by surprise, and view the groin kicks as an extra option you have in self-defense but not a guaranteed attack. Unfortunately the former seems to be more common and it's a martial art where you're really shopping the teacher, not the style itself, similar to Karate.
The thing alot of other people dont understand about the guy who developed Krav is he had knowledge of judo and boxing. So he knew about this stuff and used it to create krav.
4. Kickboxing (not good at takedowns or head movement) 3. Boxing (no takedowns or utilize legs) 2. Muay Tai (more well-rounded for striking with everything and great clench for blocking takedowns but lacks great technique) 1. MMA (all the sports: BJJ, Wrestling, Kickboxing, Muay Tai, Boxing) Best to be a pro at one of those aspects and knowledgeable about the rest.
Muay Thai has less head movement compared to Kickboxing but has way more weapons than Kickboxing. Savate compared to regular Kickboxing has even more head movement.
meh, just go with mma, even the strike for mma is the best you know how to defend against knee/punchs/kicks/elbows and you dont fight with big gloves(big difference).
This is a very interesting topic, considering many martial arts have claimed credibility by saying they are effective for self-defense. I think a starting point is asking what is self-defense? Gabriel seems to imply that it is street fighting (i.e. no rules and no protection), and non-voluntary (i.e. the opponent initiates the conflict or attack). In these type of scenarios, legally, fighting back is supposed to be a last resort, and in some situations, that's after you've already attempted to flee. In my experience, what most people imagine as self-defense is actually PRIDE-DEFENSE. They don't want to be disrespected and mistreated, so what they actually want to defend their self-esteem. In other words, they want to know martial arts so they can fight back AND WIN against what they perceive to be a bully, and not feel like a coward if they to flee the encounter.
I gotta put boxing over MT for overall self defence. Boxing is more than throwing accurate punches. Its the best in terms of reflex, coordination and footwork for evasion and escape. Kicks are negligible in the street, and whatever kicks that might be necessary are pretty much anything from the knee down and are more of a stomping movement than an actual kick, which dont need to be trained that much. Highly effective though. Plus i would compliment my boxing with BJJ up to mid to high blue level. Between both, mixed with "dirty techniques (eyes, neck, balls, sternum etc)", you can take care of most street altercations, should they get to those levels. But our number 1 skill is always awareness. Never underestimate it and never forget it.
learn striking because practicing (and defending against) KO shot is definitely worth it. learn wrestling at least to escape from getting tangled up with assailant. keep your ego even when you "won", it's still an unarmed self-defense situation and just go away from there
First, your points are great and i really agree with the most. Second, after 2 years of krav maga training as a teenager in a very respectable gym in israel. i've felt very comfortable first time step in to a thai boxing gym, just to get my ass kicked by pretty much everyone. Of course i have been registered the next day. Since than i have finished military service and manage to live and train in thailand for 6 months, (and train for about 5 years in israel) I had some fights in the ring and some more outside the ring. Long story short, its ridiculous to think that you can defend a knife or a baton Before you can punch or guard your face properly. You can't learn to fight without sparring, and on top of it, as a fighter, if you do want to be more capable in the street you can take some krav maga seminars from time to time, but it does not work the other way around.
In real street attacks, home invasions etc. The floor "turns slippery", yes this is why people keep slipping or falling in videos. This is why boxing is very good with a wide stance and slugged it of, or maybe a wrestling/boxing combo. It has to do with adrenaline legs tremble, loss of perception of the sustentation base etc. This is why BJJ in the old days assured fights ended on the ground.
I agree with everything you said. But some sports people forget are amazing for self defence are cross country running, all the track events, 5-15 km road races. I would even argue that in an open outdoor environment these sports are even better than the ones you mentioned. I think ITF TKD can be pretty good for self-defence, but so many TKD schools neglect this aspect of the martial art that I think excluding it from your top 4 is only fair.
Great content and maybe the only thing that Bjj or wrestling is good for self defence is the ability to quickly rise up after a takedown. I remember when I was attacked by three guys on the street and after one speared me and even I managed to land on top during the fall and then elbowed him the other guy soccer kicked me in the ribs from the side so I flew away and then everyone surrounded me and started kicking me from sides. I had no chance to stand up but because of my striking background I guarded with forearms and elbows so after they got tired from kicking me on the ground and decided to leave and told that I will be lying there broken I immediately stood up and was ready to continue. Because of good defence I got only a black eye after this. So even if it sounds trivial never go to the ground in a street fight. If guys have friends or knives you are dead, so it does not really matter your bjj. Kickboxing boxing and Muay Thai are top. Groundwork is good for ufc but the injuries to the body from it exceed all benefits everyone has neck or spine fusion or disc replacement.
If you go with MMA you will have the more complete skillset. It is the combat "sports" that give you the fighting skills. That being said, self-defence is much more than knowing how to fight. It is about situational awareness, ability to difuse situations, knowledge of relative laws etc. Plus you have to adjust to the reality of weapons, multiple opponents and terrain. For most situations boxing is enough though, especially if you have some decent wrestling as well.
Honestly Gabriel, I wouldn't underestimate your grappling skills. I've seen your throws and they are beautiful IMO. Saying this as a Judoka and Aikidoka. You can throw most people who don't know how to grapple. Muay Thai is an effective grappling art, it is limited, but effective nonetheless.
This may be hard to pull off depending on circumstances but in MMA (If one has easy access to MMA gyms) one doesn't necessarily have to focus on the whole skill like kickboxing. Depending on body type etc, one could decide to focus on specific offensive skills, and specific defensive skills. Eg tall but strong, offensive skills: boxing main offensive skill, so focus only on hands maybe practice one type of takedowns(and maybe start adding knees, or frontkick or whatever at some point). Defensive skills: General takedown defense(so wrestle but focus only on defense), kicks esp low kick defense and general ground work / jiu jitsu defense. When on ground main goal get yourself out and go into standup or practice for ground and pound. Just an example. It would probably make sense to consider body type here (IIRC Varga has video or two about this in the context of kickboxing)
Your analysis is fantastic, with a bonus. It reveals a problem with how people teach MMA. Learning all the disciplines is not the most effective way to learn. Learning MMA as its own art is better. It can be done, too. It's just not fleshed out yet. Take BJJ, for instance. More than half of it will get you knocked out in MMA, so don't train that half. Boxing has too much head movement for MMA, so don't train it the same way. That's the start, but just the start. Remove the training that distracts you, and you save more than half the time needed to get good, but just like you said regarding combos in boxing, training one thing at a time is like training one punch at a time. It doesn't work to put them together. Take a good boxing gym and a good MMA gym and put beginners in there for a year and then have them fight. MMA is taking all the gold that day so long as they don't waste time in their training.
Genuine question- you seem super articulate and well spoken for someone who has had so many fights! What do you put that down to? How do you recommend managing risk of brain damage? Do you think the risk is overstated?
Very interesting video Gabriel...really honest too 👏 However, in all reality...cutting a long story short? Muay Thai. Thanks for confirming what every sensible martial artist in this room already OUGHT to know 🤷♂️🙂 PS. That idea of Muay Thai being only about single shots/1-2s/power shots with the hands...that’s definitely not true where I train, and I think that might be in very traditional gyms in Thailand only? We have a mantra of ‘no single shots’ at my gym, and we work on technical stuff as much as power. 🙏
Great analysis as always. As a Muy Thai practitioner I'm aware of my ground skills limitations and will continue to improve on them. Being able to throw "power shots" and Thai clinch technique are an asset. What are your thoughts on the "push kick/teep" as a self defense technique? Maybe an idea for another video? Thanks man, we'll be watching!
Id say a push kick can be useful in a self defense situation, but it's not that easy to execute as there is the risk of having your leg getting caught, so It's better to have good timing and dont aim high, either to the groin or the stomach, i once landed a sidekick on a bully who was trying to approach me back in middle school and just kept walking away, (sidekicks shldnt be used usually in these situations but just for the sake of giving an example to support my statement)
thai clinch isnt that great for street fights, cuz people would grave you and throw you on the ground. anyway you need to be smart dont clinch on a bigger guy.
@@hassanhoteit10 a jab feint, hard push kick to the knee, then hard cross is a potential fight ender against most people. Great for shorter guys like me too since the knee either buckles or the guy bends at the hip trying to avoid it, bringing his head down for the cross
I personally think clinch work is a better choice for push kick because kicks in general are easy to catch (not everyone is expert in kicking). But clinch with sweep and elbows and knees? You can easily fuck up guys without any clinching or ground defense experience (not everyone is expert in these also)
I did Sanda, and it's not exactly as you said, they don't throw knees and elbows, and Clinch is not as accurate as Muay Thai as well, but we do Kickboxing plus takedowns without grappling. In my opinion it's not the best for self defense, still excellent though, you have higher risk to be on the ground with your opponent if you try to take him down, in a real life situation I recommend you to rely on striking without without taking him down, takedowns are really the last thing that you wanna use.
@@ronniejamesdio6889 if that’s what they taught you you need to go get your money back both from your crappy muay thai school and whatever crappy Sanda school you went to. Grappling beats striking, and takedowns are a fundamental part of grappling. Sanda fighters are just significantly better at takedowns and grappling in general than muay thai fighters. I’ve done both. And yes Sanda does practice knees and elbows. It’s just not allowed in amateur competition, but is allowed in pro Sanda. As for clinch, Sanda’s clinch is closer to wrestling than muay thai.
In the street fights it happens a lot that a wrestler destroying a boxer. In my little town it happened this case. A wrestler destroyed a boxer completely. I think it worths mentioning wrestling or judo.
Street fights and self-defense are a bit different. I have never heard of a case where a mugger, rapist or lunatic double legged someone out of the blue. What predators do is they interview the victim visually and verbally and then make a snap attack. It is during that interview that you have the privilege of throwing the first punch if you estimate that they are not going to leave you alone. Even an olympic level wrestler would get knocked out if he were a predator trying to invade a mediocre boxer's personal space like that. The difference in fights is that in a fight there's two men (or sometimes women) who are both in on it, squaring off and have the ability to estimate each other's style to some extent. Half of self-defense is based on exploiting the element of surprise, which is what striking is so good for.
Mma by far it’s more complete and the hardest, most tiring, it requires allot. And when you compete in mma you get good at mma, you become a tough fighter, that can kick punch grapple, transition , head movement, you become an all around fighter.
I totally agree, but it's important to stress that you can't treat a street fight like a sport. Believing in yourself is a helpful asset, but fighting viciously for survival is something that must be owned if you want to be confident in defending your skin or someone else's - be that a specific military training or instinct or experience.
"Yeah man i totally armbared you, there's no a way out, you give up or I break your arm." Instead it should just be deescalation and then eventual mutilation. No asking if the other guy has enough.
Should always try to diffuse the situation. If not run. If not fight. But whatever you do, do not use too much for e that it is used against you in court. Fighting viciously will only work against you in court man. Don't do that.
@@vincentlee7359 You are right, of course. I'm talking about a definitive attack on your life and the thing needed to defend against it - conviction or what I already named. If the attacker is committed you must be too, but in my eyes giving it an extra 10% makes survival much more likely.
@@MCmaksE Whatever you decide to do, remember there is judgement after in court. You can "mutilate" them, sure or viciously attack to show conviction. But that will just end up hurting your defense even if you say you were fighting for your life depending on your country's law about it. Just because you survived doesn't mean the other guy won't press charges unfortunately. You have to do whatever it takes during the situation to make it look like you are the good guy doing self-defense. Obviously not all situations are the same. But just be calm and level headed with the will and determination to survive.
the point of a street fight is to avoid it altogether or find an escape route with minimal damage. That's why imo a mix of boxing/judo or boxing/wrestling, just hit/slam and dip out, avoid going to the ground at all costs.
I remember there used to be a Jackson's MMA curriculum that only taught fully integrated MMA, complete with a belt system. Too bad the 2 schools that had that were closed....
Answer, all of the above Throw in jiujitsu, judo, wrestling And for folks in applicable countries, flashlight, pepper spray, baton, gun and knife use for personal defense, some places allow concealed carry. Can't ever be too prepared for battle
learn any striking + grappling and you are already gonna be better than 90% of men. 1. ideally run away, but that might not be possible so 2. if its 1v1 try grappling and submitting/incapacitating the attacker with holds so you dont break your hands 3. if you have to strike, try to hit a big shot to nose or nethers and stun them to then get away if you stick around in a street fight you will end up stabbed or shot
I learn head movement in my style of kickboxing. My instructor is a boxing trainer and kickboxing trainer, so we teach head movement. Who in MMA moves their head besides izzy or Anderson Silva? I've never seen head movement in Muay Thai
Hi Gabriel. Really liking your videos keep it up! What would you recommend for a 5ft6' male who's never done martial arts before? I wanted to take up one striking and one grappling martial art. I'm currently in the process of loosing weight and hopefully will be starting next month. There's so many options out there but I just want two that will be beneficial to me. I'm aware the bigger guy will always have the advantage no matter what, but can you still recommend me 2 martial arts? Thanks
I think boxing is great, because it can translate to all martial arts that have strinkg. I always dreamed about training russian sambo, but i don't have any school close, so i trained boxing, and when i had one class of sambo i saw that my boxing was useful in sambo, with more time to learn the grappling and having sharp boxing you can have a big advantage.
As a general rule your gonna have to train into a martial art that doesn’t have traditional limitations from a sports perspective. Take advantage of eye poking ball hitting boob hitting back of the head punching etc… those can change a fight in a street fight.
the best is mma, the best thing to do is figure out what martial art you wanna use as a base and what to back it up with, mines kickboxing base, and bjj, and everything else i have is in my arsenal but not as heavily relied on as the other two arts unless its an actual mma match and i see fit
Another edge for MT and to a less extent MMA is how if possible it would probably be preferable to strike using your elbows than with your bare fist in a street scenario. An ungloved fist is actually pretty delicate.
From my experience when I got into a lot of fights from 10 years old to my early 20's Boxing helped the most. I did point karate from between age 13 - 15 and I did win more fights then before but the 2 months of Boxing really helped due to constant pressure testing of actual punching in the face. Form a hypothetical stand point I think Muay Thai might be the best.
@@iROChakri yeah, I agree that Muay Thai has the match up advantage against the boxer. However, in a short term (6 months-1 year) of training, boxing might be more useful, you will already gain enough explosive power in your punches, , and how to control the distance with your footwork. In addition, on the street most of times average guys start the fight by punching you, you just need a clean jab or hook to end up the fight as quick as possible, and boxing can help you a lot with that. If we're talking about 1 year and half to 2 years of training, I would definitely choose Muay Thai, to learn how to kick properly takes time. It also depends on the instructor, the gym and courses qualify though.
Train very basics of punching, low kicks, and basic takedowns. But make sure you train those basics really hard. No need in some crazy head kicks, long boxing combos or complicated grappling techniques.
MMA is the best. It takes the best techniques from the best martial arts to make someone effective at fighting. That's why you should directly start with it. No need to wrestle in a position where you're very vulnerable to strikes, no need to put yourself in useless BJJ positions where they will punch your face in, no need to wire your body in a way where you are only effective at striking and very vulnerable to taledowns. MMA is the combat sport of fighting, it is what you should learn first if your actual goal is to become proficient in fighting. And 1 year of MMA puts you severely ahead of the average street joe. MMA also covers transitions, and those who start directly there develop their own style of fighting. 1 year of MMA > 1 year of boxing
Dont bother with that,if you are a beginner, just train and dont think too much,after about 4 years of continuous training you will have a foundation,then you will see whats for you, amateur, local or national competitions, qualifications, olympics, maybe pro career or just a hobby You will know what you are ready for when the time comes, train until then and *dont skip sparrings!*
Well not necessarily. There’s a really tall guy in a smaller division rn who’s name I’ve forgotten. But even though he’s the tallest in his weight class by a long shot he primarily uses uppercuts to pressure and infight his opponent. It depends more on your talent and your proclivities. Especially if you are a taller fighter. Shorter fighters don’t really get much options.
Has someone who studies in different styles Like Taekwondo,Judo,Karate,jiu jitsu,ninjutsu whic gives me skills to take merg the best of both world I know I could have been a MMA fighter if I whated to but ultimately I’m proud of this skill set that allows me to know how to handle a lot in a real fight if I need to
I think my 50/50 help me, on the street ,I’m not great at any main sport ,but I always got jump ,and won my fights off the 50/50 style . my grappling wasn’t good back then so I mainly use boxing and won my fights .
Situational awareness or presense of mind, quick physical reactions or reflexes, mental strength or toughness, composure or self-confidence, resourcefulness, the instinct or the will to fight back and defend yourself, knowing when to fight back or when to just run away as fast as you can, avoiding people places and situations that potentially lead to heated altercations or violent encounters, and your martial arts/fighting/self-defense skills and techniques (if you have any or some) which you have spent long periods of time practicing and training, can drastically increase your chances of successfully defending yourself and surviving potentially violent self-defense encounters. Speaking based on my personal experience as a self-defense practitioner.
Agree with every word, what a smart guy. I'd get really good at wrestling and boxing so you dictate where the fight is and use the boxing to smash them. Add the bjj and muay thai kicks once you're really good.
People underestimate boxing when it comes to self-defense. Most people that pick fights won't even think about kicking you, let alone know how to actually fight. So as a start you can do Boxing. But if you adamant on adding kicks learn Dutch Kickboxing, it incorporates boxing as well.
I get what people say with Kickboxing and Muay Thai not utilizing much head movement due to using the high guard and padding of gloves, but too much head movement also opens yourself up to knees and kicks to the head and we've seen this happen many times in MMA. I still agree with everything Gabriel said, but I feel this point doesn't get brought up enough. Dan Hooker fought a guy with amazing head movement and knocked him out with a well placed knee, and the recent Whittaker vs Gastelum fight, Whittaker nearly put Gastelum out in the first round with a feint right straight into a high kick. I've also been a victim in a few sparring sessions, fortunately my partners go very easy lmao.
Ok, but here we are talking about fighting against average guys, not fighting against kick or Thai boxers. Most of average guys start a fight with a punch or trying to grab you to take you down, so decent boxe + basic wrestling might be more than enough . They rarely kick, and even if they did it's not a big deal, because they're not as powerful as professional kickboxers.
I, personally, think that clinching is the best tactic in self defense, because it negates the untrained fighter's most damaging weapon - the big swinging wild overhand And if you know what you're doing you can do way more damage than them and/or sweep them. So I'd pick muay thay with a bit of judo/jiujitsu, just in case the fight eventually goes to the ground
Best self defense is Striking. Grappling is for suicide. Now a question is which striking art has the best bet? Muay thai .. ofc. This video sort of explains why nowadays most striking arts start to all look like Muay thai 😆
I watched back your "fight with your body type" video... And...im struggling to figure out how to use muay tai in that fast up close spot.. But i really wanna learn muay thai😂
Best for self-defense? One on one? Wrestling. Easily. No contest. So many scenarios where i can be applied, once you get into that close grappling range thats it never let it go. Keep it on the ground until cops or friends arrive.
Will fight sports work on the street? Sure. Although they have limitations. Weapons, multiple attackers, ambush, etc. Also, all the really effective stuff is outlawed in sports fighting. Spine strikes, throat strikes, knee strikes, groin strikes, eye strikes, etc. And you fight like you train, not how you think you will fight. The real question is whether sport fighting is the most effective way to teach the average person how to defend themselves. Sport fighters are top athletes who spend hours in the gym. Not everyone wants to do competition to be able to defend themselves and it is not necessary for basic, effective, self defense. Street fights are over in seconds, not rounds. You don't get a chance to "feel your opponent out." The pressure testing in good self defense training is for what you do those first few seconds. Look at things like Impact Self Defense, The Fairbairn Protocol, Target Focus Training, Immediate Action Combatives, etc. for pure, effective, self defense.
I think the lack of dirty techniques in sports fighting is not that big of a deal, the worst thing it their lack of viciousness, which you mention in the last paragraph, but it's more significant than the other issue.
@@cahallo5964 I don't disagree, but I see the two as related. "Dirty" techniques are not useful because they are "dirty," but because they are vicious. Self defense techniques should produce immediate debilitating or deadly injury, even against a bigger, stronger, faster opponent. That's why they aren't allowed in fighting sports. BTW, I am not talking about "monkey dance" challenge fights. I am talking about defending against deadly asocial violence.
Yeah. Eye strikes and throat punches will totally help your defense in court. Self Defense techniques should be quick, with sufficient force to subdue the attacker. If you use too much...get a good lawyer.
What do you guys think about fight sports & self defense? Will they work well in a street fight if you need to protect yourself?
I personally think MMA because you work on wrestling, jiu jitsu, striking like kickboxing and Muay Thai etc.
Boxing.
1 few basic techniques to learn (plus bonus for strikes being fist techniques)
2 heavy focus on footwork, which means better movement overall, and better stamina for running/move away
3 because most people on the street would punch you rather than kick you, boxers would probably have better defence than most kickboxers/muay thai/mma practitioners
Well since MMA can be a hybrid of any martial arts, i would say MMA because a person who just trains boxing and wrestling basics and nothing else will be most prepared in a short amount of time. I think boxing alone is too limited, and so is wrestling.
@@stanclark3992 I saw previous video.
My point is that the average person is not going to leg kick you. Besides, leg kicks are not so efficient especially if the boxer closes the distance and throws straight techniques.
Moreover, the context of the video you're referring to is different to that of a street fight. Gabriel was speaking of pro athletes fighting in kickboxing. Again, PRO ATHLETES, not random John Does in the street. Just because Buakaw brutalizes people with his round kicks, it doesn't mean that anybody who throws a round kick is as good as Buakaw.
@@stanclark3992 However, have we already met on yt?
Honestly knowing the basics of either boxing/kickboxing/wrestling is enough to defend yourself against an average dude
Yes basics is most important. Learn basic leg kick, boxing, wrestling. Good against 99% of people on the street. Leg is optional though.
Unless you're trained enough in these exact basics(you built your muscle memory) with good technique and been in an all out sparring I don't think you would be showing much in a fight
Ya agreed, with a little sparring you learn your distance, timing, accuracy and not blinking when punches are coming at you, a lot of the somewhat basic things that 99% of “street bullies” aren’t even aware of
Experience is what count the most , a average dude that has street fight many times is more dangerous that a guy that just do as sport and never had a fight
@Mumbai Indian street food I started karate with 5 muai thay with 14 mma with 18 , and what you say is not fully true , you never know what’s can happen in your life , everybody can find in a bad day and everybody can do a mistake or even just be unlucky and finish in a street fight situation , don’t be a judge my brother , But yes a person that surch for it has a problem , but finish in a street fight is always possible
As a boxer and wrestler, I believe being able to run away faster and longer always works
Especially against multiple attackers 😅
not really, i fought on the street against 2 guys easy fight no injurys them i was too cooky and stay their, what happen? more 2 guys 2+2 = 4, so i decided to run i broke my ankle. dont run, just fight.
Yoo, perfect statement 😀 this is why I would also suggest to avoid brawls, even if you're I'm a fight, maintain distance and have the ability to stay and get back at your feet
@@goncalopereira84 broken ankle is better than open guts man, ill gladly fight two guys if I know theyre unarmed but they usually arent.
Most attacks happen suddenly and without warning from very close range. Obviously if it's a drunk guy at a bar or an angry guy on the street getting in your face the best thing to do is to deescalate and leave, but if it's someone who wants to knock you out or incapacitate you or kill you and who isn't looking for a fair fight they are going to get as close to you as possible without letting you know they're even a threat before initiating an attack. It's hard to run away when someone is already on top of you.
I’m just doing boxing and jiu-jitsu for now. Having loads of fun doing both!
Agree with all your points here. Biggest oversight non-fighters make is that confidence and overall fitness are the most important aspects of self-defence, especially in the pre-fight stage where the opponent is sizing you up. They see chin up, straight spine, steady eye contact, and relaxed but serious response to threats (verbal and non-verbal) and most potential aggressors or even opportunists will just back down or find an easier target.
Oof chin up, that’s a recipe for a nasty sucker punch.
It’s funny that those are pretty much the exact opposites of what fighters actually do
@@midnut9036 fighter don't do this in the ring but many sure as hell do during the stare down. They are fighters, not victims. This video is about self-defence. The first rule of self-defence is don't attract the attention of potential attackers. Being completely unremarkable is one way, but looking like a tough out for the attacker also works and you get the side-benefit of feeling good about yourself and looking good in non-combat scenarios (like job interviews and meeting women).
@@Nergal123 every stance has a weakness. But also confidence walking down a street looks a lot different than confidence in a fighting stance. Clearly I was talking about the pre-fight stage.
@@Nergal123 my man!! I was just thinking:
““Someone comes up to me aggressively with their chin up and spine straight...imma have to give very serious consideration to administering a very heavy short right hook to said chin/jaw...followed by a Sub Zero style spine-rip Fatality to finish.” 🤷♂️😲😆
In a fight-or-flight situation, the brain reverts to the basics. Boxing keeps things basic (in a good way). You learn to avoid punches (bobbing, weaving, catching, etc.), movement and footwork (incredibly important yet incredibly underrated), speed and accuracy, endurance, and generating immense power even with short, tight punches. The simplicity of boxing is its strength, in my opinion. I also think boxing is best for trying to fend off multiple attackers. Kicking is dangerous in a self defence situation, because it greatly increases your chances of ending up on the ground. With wrestling, the _point_ is to go to the ground, which is really bad against multiple attackers or if a friend of your attacker decides to jump in. Lastly, as we all know, running away is the best defense, and boxers do the most roadwork (unless you're training MT in Thailand, of course). All of this is just like, my opinion, man.
Exactly. In a fight-or-flight situation, your coordination goes to shit, and your legs are weak, so any kick would be a liability. The most simple things are the only ones you have a reasonable chance of doing, so boxing it is.
I'd add to that some sort of wrestling, preferably greco or judo. If you freeze, which is as likely a response as fight or flight, there is a good probability they'll get their hands on you, which, if you're trained, would kick out a reflex response and you could throw them even in your high-adrenaline situation.
@@lebatcritique I do agree that Boxing is a really good sport to take down average punks but saying kicks will increase your chances of loosing balance is like saying you'll get clipped on the left side of your face or body when you throw a left punch. Your technically correct but most people you would probably get into a fight with in the streets have terrible reactions and are in a much worse condition than the average fighter. So their responses to fight or flight would be way worse than yours
@@kermit1211 you make a great point, but you are missing part of the argument made by the OC, which is that fight-or-flight reaction will weaken your legs tremendously. I've experienced it just last week when I did my first hard boxing sparrings against guys I didn't know and who were much more experienced. The most noticeable impact the nerves had on me was that my legs weren't very responsive. I could stay grounded, but not have fine motor control over my legs. Which means my legwork immediately went to shit. Even if I had practiced kicking in the gym, I'm fairly certain my balance would have been compromised.
What I experienced is the normal reaction when people do their first intimidating hard sparring (my coach has confirmed he knew exactly that it would do that to me, just like it did to him and everybody else). And that's in a controlled environment, when your life isn't at stake at all. Imagine how it would feel in the street! Seriously, we all underestimate the physiological effects of fear in a dangerous situation.
But let's imagine for one second that you have done a lot of intimidated hard sparring sessions, even full-on matches, and the nerves aren't much of an issue (that's assuming that being calm in a match with rules would transfer to your being calm in a street situation, which is not a given by any means). Then yes, I would agree that you could and should use your kicks in a street situation if you are well trained, IF there is only ONE opponent. If there're several of them, then kicking will undermine your mobility, and someone might pull or push you while you are kicking another, making you lose balance.
So yeah, to me boxing is the better option. Not to mention that since, as you said yourself, most people who would fight you on the streets have terrible reactions and are in a much worse condition than the average fighter, being a good boxer would be more than enough to deal with them, while taking minimum risk.
@@lebatcritique and again, you're not even that good of a kicker to begin with so ofc your reactions are gonna be different in fight or flight. Also you're new to hard sparring so those reactions are expected from you
@@kermit1211 With respect, I think you are missing the point once again. This was a boxing sparring, I wasn't expected to kick anyway, but I WAS expecting to be able to use my legs properly for my footwork. Which I was trained to do, much like kickboxers are trained to use their legs for kicking. Yet I had much less control over my legs than I expected, much like a kicker would -- except it's more dangerous to lack motor control when you try to kick.
As for my being new to hard sparring... Yes, but many people who train will never even do that kind of hard sparring. Especially in kickboxing -- usually, you get to do hard sparring more quickly in a boxing gym than in a kickboxing gym. And that's if you want to. This video are about people who want to practice a combat sport for mostly self-defense reasons, not necessarily to enter competitions. It's usually the more serious fighters who do the hard sparring. For professional fighters, I agree that the nerves are less of an issue. But for the vast majority of people who train, they won't have much experience with that much fear. Which makes boxing more appropriate for two reasons:
if you practice boxing, you are more likely to have experienced hard sparring and not lose your nerves
if you do lose your nerves, then throwing punches will be much safer than kicking, due to the aforementioned loss of fine motor-control
I will also reiterate that even if you are highly experienced in hard sparring and keep perfect motor control, punching is the much safer option if there are more than one opponent.
100m sprint, followed by a 1 mile run and I say this as decade long MMA practisioner.
Glock 9mm
joke is getting old, the question is what martial art is best in a szenario where is no escaping
@@hansjurgen8555 which is a stupid hypothetical impossible question to answer in the first place. To many variables in a self defense situation for there to ever be a conclusion on which "style" is the best.
@@hannibalwantsahuggrande3433 yeah true, there are many variables involved but of course you can "rate" martial arts and their utility in "most" scenarios. for example, i prefere a fighting style which involves striking as well as grappling like muay thai. so yea there are many variables but sure to say that some martial arts and their way of getting taught in the average school is better than others.
@@hansjurgen8555 ya i agree. I personally think muay thai and boxing is the best for a quick random encounter of violence.
One very important element of self defense is conditioning.
Just being able to be calm and not out of gas will go a long way regardless of martial art style.
I agree the best self defense is 100 m dash.
Yes. Also being calm and the ability to de escalate a situation. But if shit hits the fan a solid right hand followed by the ol 100m sprint is the best defense in my opinion.
Running out of steam is the main reason for losing 🤙🤙🤙
just the fact that you would normally be biased towards kickboxing but put it last in this situation is commendable. love it
You can't go wrong with those 4
But pro mma fighters also adapt their training to what they are best at,if they are good at striking their focus will be on that,they will not try to master the whole bjj but only certain segments,for example transitions and escapes
Although this new generation of young fighters strives to be as complete as possible,we will see how it goes,and what the roster will look like in the UFC in a couple of years
I appreciate the humility and the honesty it takes to admit that the main sport you work at is in last place. 👍
Running away isn't always the answer, guys. What if you need to protect someone? What if you're surrounded? What if you don't know the area, but assume they do? What if you've got a bum leg? What if they're taller/skinnier than you and can out-run you?
I get it, running away should ALWAYS be considered, but I'm willing to bet half of you that preach "always run," like it's simply that easy, have never been in an actual street fight. Once you know it's on (secret; that's the best self defence technique), attack first, attack hard, then GTFO if you can. Your life is more important than legality. And if you can make the case that you're already "in combat," aka; cornered, the other person has obvious intent to do bodily harm, then throwing the first punch is justified.
Yeah not sure about running away.
I like the approach of talk your way out. That's what I've done in the past.
But if that doesn't work I say of course defend yourself.
And when you run you can fall yoo, specially in a third world country like the mine, were every street and sidewalk is in bad condition
For me, I got far more out of boxing than Muay Thai as a beginner simply because Muay Thai is overwhelming. I feel like if you dedicated a lot of time to it, it would be more effective than boxing. At 6 months of Muay Thai I fell like I'd be setting myself up for disaster trying to use kicks and other stuff in a fight. Whereas with boxing, I felt confident in applying what I learned.
I would say it's the clinch that makes MT so special. Most altercations leading to physical harm happen at very close range. Also the learning curve for the 4 martial arts differ. A basic understanding of the ground game should help one stand ground against an average person on the street if at all it ends in a takedown, the same can't be said of boxing, kick boxing or MT where there's always a puncher's chance.
I agree that ground skill is useful. Now I'm not sure what you meant by 'puncher's chance'. If you mean to say that the average person could get lucky and knock out a boxer, I would not completely disagree but I have never heard of it happening unless it's coming from a blind spot. Whereas if you rely on judo or BJJ you need to involve a number of body parts and generate a lot of tension, which leads to a risk of injury and something going wrong as the movements are more complex. Like perhaps you sweep someone and they fall awkwardly and end up breaking your knee by accident. Or you tear your shoulder throwing the guy or you get bitten on the ground. When you are semi-stationary on the ground you are more vulnerable to bites, groin grabs, eye gouging, head butts etc. whereas standing up the guy cannot catch your shoe with his teeth; punches happen far too rapidly and you can protect your vital points with your free arm. The worst thing that can happen when throwing a punch is you'll hurt your hand.
about physical altercations beginning at very close range - I believe that also gives the edge to muay thai not only for the clinching but for the elbow strikes, which are very short-range and very, very damaging (can literally break someone's face ie. end the fight right there(
@@helvete_ingres4717if I train one year of Muaythai without sparring can I still win a street fight?
Gabriel Varga you ROCK! ... Always appreciate your wisdom, humble attitude, and how you graciously share your experiences and insights.
Personal opinion if you want good self defense in the fastest most efficent way possible.
Learn how to do muay thai low kicks
Learn how to punch like a boxer
Learn the pure basics of wrestling
if u dedicate a whole year to this you will already be better at fighting then most of the average citizens
I love this topic. It's such a fun debate. I actually agree with everything you said. the one thing i want to add is the importance of strength and conditioning. yes it is important to train a martial art to learn how to defend yourself, but it's absolutely useless if you're not conditioned and physically strong. furthermore, the confidence you gain and the respect you get from people will help prevent altercations. I'm not saying big muscles make you a good fighter, but they certainly make people perceive you as a tough guy and will thus cause them to think twice before disrespecting you. yes practice some form of striking art for self defense, but you should also dedicate two- three days to strength training. strength training will make you a better martial artist and will give you the confidence to conduct yourself like someone who is not an easy target. if you are someone who competes at the amateur or pro level than I understand why you wouldn't want to lift weights and risk getting bulky. but for the average Joe who just wants to defend themselves, weight training will be extremely beneficial.
Good point bro thanks for sharing
Perfect analysis! I would of put them in the same order too. On the street most people without former training use their hands and seldom will kick and those kicks are usually ineffective soccer like kicks until they get you on the ground, then you can get stomped.
My classement would be in the reverse order for pure self-defence situation. Like you explained, you need time to become proficient enough in MMA compared to boxing, and in majority of those fight happen between not physically conditioned people for a very short time. Keeping things simple is always the best in this case, when your goals are not to competing against people who knows what they are doing.
After watching a footage where 2 Brazilian MMA fighters got killed in a road rage because they were too cocky.. I can say say that 100m dash is the best for self defense.
I’ve never seen the footage, did they get shot or something?
I've been practicing mixed martial arts since 2015, but I still carry everywhere. I can't fight a bullet and I'd rather not fight 3+ guys at once.
@@cameronkazan1630 It was uploaded on a subreddit called 'Brutal Beatdowns'. They got killed and stomped by 4-5 men at a gas station because they were too cocky.
You have a very pleasant voice for video presentations and I love the way you are very respectful of different sides of the argument. Was a very entertaining and informative video. I’ll be subscribing for sure.
100 % percent agree with your ranking. Best of luck from Peru my friend
I think good cardio/strength and conditioning, and even a little knowledge can take you far against someone that is totally untrained!
Great video again Gabriel.
If I do one year of Muaythai without sparring can I still win in a street fight?
@@truthhurts6327No. you will certainly lose.
@@raker1980I will lose against a Untrained person? 90% of people can’t not fight on the street
@@truthhurts6327there are so many factors. If your opponent is bigger you have no chance
You nailed it when u said that thing about mma of it being disadvantaged
This is a relastic review, which I respect. I still think, that the advantage a boxer has in the beginning of a fight, is superior. The first punch is much faster than any other sport on this list can do.
Solid analysis.
I've seen boxers try to transition into kickboxing and their problem is *too much* head movement. Kickboxing necessarily has less head movement because there are more variables. A quick duck in boxing that will clear any punch will move right into a knee.
Is kickboxing good for a street fight
Varga made a video on this, can’t remember what it’s called though. Basically, do minimal dead movements and it’s easier to not get hit in a duck if you lower your guard below the top of your head
Krav Maga varies a lot in quality. There are definitely a lot of "stop any attacker with one weird trick!" types where the trick is a groin kick or eye gouge. There are also a lot of teachers with experience in the ring or cage that focus on fundamental strikes and grappling, how to get out of bad positions if caught by surprise, and view the groin kicks as an extra option you have in self-defense but not a guaranteed attack. Unfortunately the former seems to be more common and it's a martial art where you're really shopping the teacher, not the style itself, similar to Karate.
The thing alot of other people dont understand about the guy who developed Krav is he had knowledge of judo and boxing. So he knew about this stuff and used it to create krav.
U literally posted this video as I looked it up, thanks so much bro
4. Kickboxing (not good at takedowns or head movement)
3. Boxing (no takedowns or utilize legs)
2. Muay Tai (more well-rounded for striking with everything and great clench for blocking takedowns but lacks great technique)
1. MMA (all the sports: BJJ, Wrestling, Kickboxing, Muay Tai, Boxing) Best to be a pro at one of those aspects and knowledgeable about the rest.
Muay Thai has less head movement compared to Kickboxing but has way more weapons than Kickboxing. Savate compared to regular Kickboxing has even more head movement.
meh, just go with mma, even the strike for mma is the best you know how to defend against knee/punchs/kicks/elbows and you dont fight with big gloves(big difference).
Can you please make a video about MMA style defense (ie, blocking punches in MMA gloves or no gloves, head movement, footwork, etc..)?
This is a very interesting topic, considering many martial arts have claimed credibility by saying they are effective for self-defense. I think a starting point is asking what is self-defense? Gabriel seems to imply that it is street fighting (i.e. no rules and no protection), and non-voluntary (i.e. the opponent initiates the conflict or attack). In these type of scenarios, legally, fighting back is supposed to be a last resort, and in some situations, that's after you've already attempted to flee. In my experience, what most people imagine as self-defense is actually PRIDE-DEFENSE. They don't want to be disrespected and mistreated, so what they actually want to defend their self-esteem. In other words, they want to know martial arts so they can fight back AND WIN against what they perceive to be a bully, and not feel like a coward if they to flee the encounter.
I gotta put boxing over MT for overall self defence. Boxing is more than throwing accurate punches. Its the best in terms of reflex, coordination and footwork for evasion and escape. Kicks are negligible in the street, and whatever kicks that might be necessary are pretty much anything from the knee down and are more of a stomping movement than an actual kick, which dont need to be trained that much. Highly effective though. Plus i would compliment my boxing with BJJ up to mid to high blue level. Between both, mixed with "dirty techniques (eyes, neck, balls, sternum etc)", you can take care of most street altercations, should they get to those levels. But our number 1 skill is always awareness. Never underestimate it and never forget it.
learn striking because practicing (and defending against) KO shot is definitely worth it. learn wrestling at least to escape from getting tangled up with assailant. keep your ego even when you "won", it's still an unarmed self-defense situation and just go away from there
You've only won when you've incapacitated opponent - broken limb, slept them or koed them
First, your points are great and i really agree with the most.
Second, after 2 years of krav maga training as a teenager in a very respectable gym in israel.
i've felt very comfortable first time step in to a thai boxing gym, just to get my ass kicked by pretty much everyone.
Of course i have been registered the next day.
Since than i have finished military service and manage to live and train in thailand for 6 months, (and train for about 5 years in israel)
I had some fights in the ring and some more outside the ring.
Long story short, its ridiculous to think that you can defend a knife or a baton
Before you can punch or guard your face properly.
You can't learn to fight without sparring, and on top of it, as a fighter, if you do want to be more capable in the street you can take some krav maga seminars from time to time, but it does not work the other way around.
I always have my friends Smith and Wesson by my side, just their presence have deterred several confrontations.
In real street attacks, home invasions etc. The floor "turns slippery", yes this is why people keep slipping or falling in videos. This is why boxing is very good with a wide stance and slugged it of, or maybe a wrestling/boxing combo.
It has to do with adrenaline legs tremble, loss of perception of the sustentation base etc. This is why BJJ in the old days assured fights ended on the ground.
I agree with everything you said. But some sports people forget are amazing for self defence are cross country running, all the track events, 5-15 km road races. I would even argue that in an open outdoor environment these sports are even better than the ones you mentioned. I think ITF TKD can be pretty good for self-defence, but so many TKD schools neglect this aspect of the martial art that I think excluding it from your top 4 is only fair.
That's good but if your with your wife and kids are you gonna leave them behind
Great content and maybe the only thing that Bjj or wrestling is good for self defence is the ability to quickly rise up after a takedown. I remember when I was attacked by three guys on the street and after one speared me and even I managed to land on top during the fall and then elbowed him the other guy soccer kicked me in the ribs from the side so I flew away and then everyone surrounded me and started kicking me from sides. I had no chance to stand up but because of my striking background I guarded with forearms and elbows so after they got tired from kicking me on the ground and decided to leave and told that I will be lying there broken I immediately stood up and was ready to continue. Because of good defence I got only a black eye after this. So even if it sounds trivial never go to the ground in a street fight. If guys have friends or knives you are dead, so it does not really matter your bjj. Kickboxing boxing and Muay Thai are top. Groundwork is good for ufc but the injuries to the body from it exceed all benefits everyone has neck or spine fusion or disc replacement.
What you mean is: Groundwork works well only in a 1 vs 1 situation.
You mean submission wrestling causes spinal injuries?
Im a boxer and I had this guy that does karate and he was trying to tell me that boxing is useless in a streetfight
😂😂😂
Hilarious
He doesn't have any idea what he was talking about, he watched too many cobra kai's episodes to make that conclusion.
@@ronniejamesdio6889 For real man
If you go with MMA you will have the more complete skillset. It is the combat "sports" that give you the fighting skills. That being said, self-defence is much more than knowing how to fight. It is about situational awareness, ability to difuse situations, knowledge of relative laws etc. Plus you have to adjust to the reality of weapons, multiple opponents and terrain. For most situations boxing is enough though, especially if you have some decent wrestling as well.
Awesome video! Exactly what I was looking for. I want to start MMA training with some extra focus on Muay Thai, do MMA gyms cater for that?
Honestly Gabriel, I wouldn't underestimate your grappling skills. I've seen your throws and they are beautiful IMO. Saying this as a Judoka and Aikidoka. You can throw most people who don't know how to grapple.
Muay Thai is an effective grappling art, it is limited, but effective nonetheless.
This may be hard to pull off depending on circumstances but in MMA (If one has easy access to MMA gyms) one doesn't necessarily have to focus on the whole skill like kickboxing. Depending on body type etc, one could decide to focus on specific offensive skills, and specific defensive skills. Eg tall but strong, offensive skills: boxing main offensive skill, so focus only on hands maybe practice one type of takedowns(and maybe start adding knees, or frontkick or whatever at some point). Defensive skills: General takedown defense(so wrestle but focus only on defense), kicks esp low kick defense and general ground work / jiu jitsu defense. When on ground main goal get yourself out and go into standup or practice for ground and pound. Just an example. It would probably make sense to consider body type here (IIRC Varga has video or two about this in the context of kickboxing)
Your analysis is fantastic, with a bonus. It reveals a problem with how people teach MMA. Learning all the disciplines is not the most effective way to learn. Learning MMA as its own art is better. It can be done, too. It's just not fleshed out yet. Take BJJ, for instance. More than half of it will get you knocked out in MMA, so don't train that half. Boxing has too much head movement for MMA, so don't train it the same way. That's the start, but just the start. Remove the training that distracts you, and you save more than half the time needed to get good, but just like you said regarding combos in boxing, training one thing at a time is like training one punch at a time. It doesn't work to put them together. Take a good boxing gym and a good MMA gym and put beginners in there for a year and then have them fight. MMA is taking all the gold that day so long as they don't waste time in their training.
Such a open question but still a great view.
Genuine question- you seem super articulate and well spoken for someone who has had so many fights! What do you put that down to? How do you recommend managing risk of brain damage? Do you think the risk is overstated?
I respect your honesty!
Very interesting video Gabriel...really honest too 👏
However, in all reality...cutting a long story short? Muay Thai.
Thanks for confirming what every sensible martial artist in this room already OUGHT to know 🤷♂️🙂
PS. That idea of Muay Thai being only about single shots/1-2s/power shots with the hands...that’s definitely not true where I train, and I think that might be in very traditional gyms in Thailand only? We have a mantra of ‘no single shots’ at my gym, and we work on technical stuff as much as power. 🙏
Great analysis as always. As a Muy Thai practitioner I'm aware of my ground skills limitations and will continue to improve on them. Being able to throw "power shots" and Thai clinch technique are an asset.
What are your thoughts on the "push kick/teep" as a self defense technique?
Maybe an idea for another video?
Thanks man, we'll be watching!
Great, but first please learn to spell our shared chosen discipline bro. Probably a typo, right? 🤔😌🙏
Id say a push kick can be useful in a self defense situation, but it's not that easy to execute as there is the risk of having your leg getting caught, so It's better to have good timing and dont aim high, either to the groin or the stomach, i once landed a sidekick on a bully who was trying to approach me back in middle school and just kept walking away, (sidekicks shldnt be used usually in these situations but just for the sake of giving an example to support my statement)
thai clinch isnt that great for street fights, cuz people would grave you and throw you on the ground. anyway you need to be smart dont clinch on a bigger guy.
@@hassanhoteit10 a jab feint, hard push kick to the knee, then hard cross is a potential fight ender against most people. Great for shorter guys like me too since the knee either buckles or the guy bends at the hip trying to avoid it, bringing his head down for the cross
I personally think clinch work is a better choice for push kick because kicks in general are easy to catch (not everyone is expert in kicking). But clinch with sweep and elbows and knees? You can easily fuck up guys without any clinching or ground defense experience (not everyone is expert in these also)
Hey Gabriel, you should also check out Sanda. It’s basically kickboxing, Muay Thai, and also has takedowns.
sounds like mma lol
@@skippyjones3487 there’s no ground stuff in Sanda though
I did Sanda, and it's not exactly as you said, they don't throw knees and elbows, and Clinch is not as accurate as Muay Thai as well, but we do Kickboxing plus takedowns without grappling.
In my opinion it's not the best for self defense, still excellent though, you have higher risk to be on the ground with your opponent if you try to take him down, in a real life situation I recommend you to rely on striking without without taking him down, takedowns are really the last thing that you wanna use.
@@ronniejamesdio6889 if that’s what they taught you you need to go get your money back both from your crappy muay thai school and whatever crappy Sanda school you went to. Grappling beats striking, and takedowns are a fundamental part of grappling. Sanda fighters are just significantly better at takedowns and grappling in general than muay thai fighters. I’ve done both. And yes Sanda does practice knees and elbows. It’s just not allowed in amateur competition, but is allowed in pro Sanda. As for clinch, Sanda’s clinch is closer to wrestling than muay thai.
In the street fights it happens a lot that a wrestler destroying a boxer. In my little town it happened this case. A wrestler destroyed a boxer completely. I think it worths mentioning wrestling or judo.
The thing about judo is, people like to look down on it, though it's a great art and doesn't require a gi to make it work
if you are bigger with good wrestling you fuck the boxer, if you are the same size and the boxer knows how to takle, you fucked.
@@gladiumcaeli But spending time doing no gi judo improves it heaps and is fun.
Street fights and self-defense are a bit different. I have never heard of a case where a mugger, rapist or lunatic double legged someone out of the blue. What predators do is they interview the victim visually and verbally and then make a snap attack. It is during that interview that you have the privilege of throwing the first punch if you estimate that they are not going to leave you alone. Even an olympic level wrestler would get knocked out if he were a predator trying to invade a mediocre boxer's personal space like that. The difference in fights is that in a fight there's two men (or sometimes women) who are both in on it, squaring off and have the ability to estimate each other's style to some extent. Half of self-defense is based on exploiting the element of surprise, which is what striking is so good for.
Mma by far it’s more complete and the hardest, most tiring, it requires allot. And when you compete in mma you get good at mma, you become a tough fighter, that can kick punch grapple, transition , head movement, you become an all around fighter.
I totally agree, but it's important to stress that you can't treat a street fight like a sport. Believing in yourself is a helpful asset, but fighting viciously for survival is something that must be owned if you want to be confident in defending your skin or someone else's - be that a specific military training or instinct or experience.
"Yeah man i totally armbared you, there's no a way out, you give up or I break your arm."
Instead it should just be deescalation and then eventual mutilation. No asking if the other guy has enough.
Should always try to diffuse the situation. If not run. If not fight. But whatever you do, do not use too much for e that it is used against you in court.
Fighting viciously will only work against you in court man. Don't do that.
@@vincentlee7359 You are right, of course. I'm talking about a definitive attack on your life and the thing needed to defend against it - conviction or what I already named.
If the attacker is committed you must be too, but in my eyes giving it an extra 10% makes survival much more likely.
@@MCmaksE Whatever you decide to do, remember there is judgement after in court. You can "mutilate" them, sure or viciously attack to show conviction. But that will just end up hurting your defense even if you say you were fighting for your life depending on your country's law about it. Just because you survived doesn't mean the other guy won't press charges unfortunately. You have to do whatever it takes during the situation to make it look like you are the good guy doing self-defense.
Obviously not all situations are the same. But just be calm and level headed with the will and determination to survive.
the point of a street fight is to avoid it altogether or find an escape route with minimal damage. That's why imo a mix of boxing/judo or boxing/wrestling, just hit/slam and dip out, avoid going to the ground at all costs.
I remember there used to be a Jackson's MMA curriculum that only taught fully integrated MMA, complete with a belt system. Too bad the 2 schools that had that were closed....
Answer, all of the above
Throw in jiujitsu, judo, wrestling
And for folks in applicable countries, flashlight, pepper spray, baton, gun and knife use for personal defense, some places allow concealed carry.
Can't ever be too prepared for battle
learn any striking + grappling and you are already gonna be better than 90% of men.
1. ideally run away, but that might not be possible so
2. if its 1v1 try grappling and submitting/incapacitating the attacker with holds so you dont break your hands
3. if you have to strike, try to hit a big shot to nose or nethers and stun them to then get away
if you stick around in a street fight you will end up stabbed or shot
Awesome video Gabriel! Do you think your take would be different if you (the defender) is larger/smaller than the attacker?
It's not about the style, it's about the practitioner and how you use it.
Nah. Aikido, Tai Chi, Bujingkan and other nonsense doesn't work.
I enjoy your videos its nice.Thanks Gabriel.
Glad you like them!
I learn head movement in my style of kickboxing. My instructor is a boxing trainer and kickboxing trainer, so we teach head movement. Who in MMA moves their head besides izzy or Anderson Silva? I've never seen head movement in Muay Thai
Yeah, the instructor is really important, great observation
Hi Gabriel. Really liking your videos keep it up!
What would you recommend for a 5ft6' male who's never done martial arts before? I wanted to take up one striking and one grappling martial art. I'm currently in the process of loosing weight and hopefully will be starting next month. There's so many options out there but I just want two that will be beneficial to me. I'm aware the bigger guy will always have the advantage no matter what, but can you still recommend me 2 martial arts? Thanks
I think boxing is great, because it can translate to all martial arts that have strinkg. I always dreamed about training russian sambo, but i don't have any school close, so i trained boxing, and when i had one class of sambo i saw that my boxing was useful in sambo, with more time to learn the grappling and having sharp boxing you can have a big advantage.
As a general rule your gonna have to train into a martial art that doesn’t have traditional limitations from a sports perspective. Take advantage of eye poking ball hitting boob hitting back of the head punching etc… those can change a fight in a street fight.
Illuminating video.
Gabriel chad spitting facts
the best is mma, the best thing to do is figure out what martial art you wanna use as a base and what to back it up with, mines kickboxing base, and bjj, and everything else i have is in my arsenal but not as heavily relied on as the other two arts unless its an actual mma match and i see fit
Thanks for not being biased and keeping it real with us.
i just wanna pick up a hobby and i can afford to pick one of them this year sooo i’m here :)
Another edge for MT and to a less extent MMA is how if possible it would probably be preferable to strike using your elbows than with your bare fist in a street scenario. An ungloved fist is actually pretty delicate.
Also boxers have the best foot work so that should be on number 1 or 2
From my experience when I got into a lot of fights from 10 years old to my early 20's Boxing helped the most. I did point karate from between age 13 - 15 and I did win more fights then before but the 2 months of Boxing really helped due to constant pressure testing of actual punching in the face.
Form a hypothetical stand point I think Muay Thai might be the best.
i have seen your fights and you are very good, but only 40 fights is a surprising low number to me....
What do you think about combat sambo ? It probably be the same as mma but idk I just thought about combat sambo when you mention mma.
Why does kick boxing lack of head movement? Does head movement not benefit in kick boxing?
Because it's more efficient to block with the bigger gloves and not have the risk of slipping or rolling into head kicks and knees
I kind of break it down for you in this video
ruclips.net/video/3u7-s_5PX1s/видео.html
I actually needed this
Not for an upcoming street fight that you know is coming I hope 😮
@@GabrielVargaOfficial naw i actually wanted to learn one these for just basic self defense and to help with confidence
Muay Thai would be scariest to me in a street. The strikes look vicious!
Boxe is no joke too
@@ronniejamesdio6889 boxing is no joke but comapred it to muay thai, it's a baby. A kick to the face, it can kill you.
@@iROChakri yeah, I agree that Muay Thai has the match up advantage against the boxer. However, in a short term (6 months-1 year) of training, boxing might be more useful, you will already gain enough explosive power in your punches, , and how to control the distance with your footwork.
In addition, on the street most of times average guys start the fight by punching you, you just need a clean jab or hook to end up the fight as quick as possible, and boxing can help you a lot with that.
If we're talking about 1 year and half to 2 years of training, I would definitely choose Muay Thai, to learn how to kick properly takes time.
It also depends on the instructor, the gym and courses qualify though.
A combination of all would do very nicely also judo and wrestling 💪👍
Train very basics of punching, low kicks, and basic takedowns. But make sure you train those basics really hard. No need in some crazy head kicks, long boxing combos or complicated grappling techniques.
MMA is the best. It takes the best techniques from the best martial arts to make someone effective at fighting. That's why you should directly start with it. No need to wrestle in a position where you're very vulnerable to strikes, no need to put yourself in useless BJJ positions where they will punch your face in, no need to wire your body in a way where you are only effective at striking and very vulnerable to taledowns. MMA is the combat sport of fighting, it is what you should learn first if your actual goal is to become proficient in fighting. And 1 year of MMA puts you severely ahead of the average street joe. MMA also covers transitions, and those who start directly there develop their own style of fighting.
1 year of MMA > 1 year of boxing
Hello Gabriel,Great video!
I am a beginner and I have a question,if i 6ft in featherweight class,I must be outboxer?
Dont bother with that,if you are a beginner, just train and dont think too much,after about 4 years of continuous training you will have a foundation,then you will see whats for you, amateur, local or national competitions, qualifications, olympics, maybe pro career or just a hobby
You will know what you are ready for when the time comes, train until then and *dont skip sparrings!*
Well not necessarily. There’s a really tall guy in a smaller division rn who’s name I’ve forgotten. But even though he’s the tallest in his weight class by a long shot he primarily uses uppercuts to pressure and infight his opponent. It depends more on your talent and your proclivities. Especially if you are a taller fighter. Shorter fighters don’t really get much options.
Has someone who studies in different styles Like Taekwondo,Judo,Karate,jiu jitsu,ninjutsu whic gives me skills to take merg the best of both world I know I could have been a MMA fighter if I whated to but ultimately I’m proud of this skill set that allows me to know how to handle a lot in a real fight if I need to
4. Kickboxing
3. Boxing
2. Muay Thai
1. MMA
MMA IN PRIDE RULES VERSION
A yes. Vicious to it's core 😈
I think my 50/50 help me, on the street ,I’m not great at any main sport ,but I always got jump ,and won my fights off the 50/50 style . my grappling wasn’t good back then so I mainly use boxing and won my fights .
Situational awareness or presense of mind, quick physical reactions or reflexes, mental strength or toughness, composure or self-confidence, resourcefulness, the instinct or the will to fight back and defend yourself, knowing when to fight back or when to just run away as fast as you can, avoiding people places and situations that potentially lead to heated altercations or violent encounters, and your martial arts/fighting/self-defense skills and techniques (if you have any or some) which you have spent long periods of time practicing and training, can drastically increase your chances of successfully defending yourself and surviving potentially violent self-defense encounters. Speaking based on my personal experience as a self-defense practitioner.
Agree with every word, what a smart guy. I'd get really good at wrestling and boxing so you dictate where the fight is and use the boxing to smash them. Add the bjj and muay thai kicks once you're really good.
I believe wrestling or jujitsu is more suitable for the street even though it does lack the striking aspect.
In self-defense sprit is the best.
If it happen in the open field... If it happen inside build just attack first and run
What would you say are the main weaknesses of boxing?
People underestimate boxing when it comes to self-defense. Most people that pick fights won't even think about kicking you, let alone know how to actually fight. So as a start you can do Boxing.
But if you adamant on adding kicks learn Dutch Kickboxing, it incorporates boxing as well.
I get what people say with Kickboxing and Muay Thai not utilizing much head movement due to using the high guard and padding of gloves, but too much head movement also opens yourself up to knees and kicks to the head and we've seen this happen many times in MMA. I still agree with everything Gabriel said, but I feel this point doesn't get brought up enough. Dan Hooker fought a guy with amazing head movement and knocked him out with a well placed knee, and the recent Whittaker vs Gastelum fight, Whittaker nearly put Gastelum out in the first round with a feint right straight into a high kick. I've also been a victim in a few sparring sessions, fortunately my partners go very easy lmao.
Ok, but here we are talking about fighting against average guys, not fighting against kick or Thai boxers.
Most of average guys start a fight with a punch or trying to grab you to take you down, so decent boxe + basic wrestling might be more than enough . They rarely kick, and even if they did it's not a big deal, because they're not as powerful as professional kickboxers.
@@ronniejamesdio6889 yeah that's true, can't say I've seen much head movement in a street fight either.
@@StarkPierrot in my country when the teens or young mens fight they always use lowkicks, with bad tecnique, but it work very well
@@feiwangfangthechinesefembo1991 they do the same in mi country, they use bad lowkicks
I, personally, think that clinching is the best tactic in self defense, because it negates the untrained fighter's most damaging weapon - the big swinging wild overhand
And if you know what you're doing you can do way more damage than them and/or sweep them. So I'd pick muay thay with a bit of judo/jiujitsu, just in case the fight eventually goes to the ground
Ya cant argue to much with that assesment.
Unless they have a knife
@@CubedNightShot9777 or a gun, thats why its extremely risky to fight in street terms and the 100m dash is the best defense a lot of the time.
if the guy is bigger than you you cant just clinch
Best self defense is Striking. Grappling is for suicide. Now a question is which striking art has the best bet? Muay thai .. ofc. This video sort of explains why nowadays most striking arts start to all look like Muay thai 😆
I watched back your "fight with your body type" video...
And...im struggling to figure out how to use muay tai in that fast up close spot..
But i really wanna learn muay thai😂
I disagree that kickboxing is lower than boxing.Kickboxing has more tools and when i was kickboxing i had head movement that was just fine.
Best for self-defense? One on one? Wrestling.
Easily. No contest.
So many scenarios where i can be applied, once you get into that close grappling range thats it never let it go. Keep it on the ground until cops or friends arrive.
yeah or bjj with wrestling takedowns, alot less chance for you to take a punch and litterally 98% of the population dont know wtf an armbar is
Nice observation, I would say boxe+wrestling is a great combo
Hi what about shotokan karate? Any self-defense value there.
Will fight sports work on the street? Sure. Although they have limitations. Weapons, multiple attackers, ambush, etc. Also, all the really effective stuff is outlawed in sports fighting. Spine strikes, throat strikes, knee strikes, groin strikes, eye strikes, etc. And you fight like you train, not how you think you will fight.
The real question is whether sport fighting is the most effective way to teach the average person how to defend themselves. Sport fighters are top athletes who spend hours in the gym. Not everyone wants to do competition to be able to defend themselves and it is not necessary for basic, effective, self defense. Street fights are over in seconds, not rounds. You don't get a chance to "feel your opponent out." The pressure testing in good self defense training is for what you do those first few seconds. Look at things like Impact Self Defense, The Fairbairn Protocol, Target Focus Training, Immediate Action Combatives, etc. for pure, effective, self defense.
This always falls on deaf ears to sport martial artists.
I think the lack of dirty techniques in sports fighting is not that big of a deal, the worst thing it their lack of viciousness, which you mention in the last paragraph, but it's more significant than the other issue.
@@cahallo5964 I don't disagree, but I see the two as related. "Dirty" techniques are not useful because they are "dirty," but because they are vicious. Self defense techniques should produce immediate debilitating or deadly injury, even against a bigger, stronger, faster opponent. That's why they aren't allowed in fighting sports. BTW, I am not talking about "monkey dance" challenge fights. I am talking about defending against deadly asocial violence.
Yeah. Eye strikes and throat punches will totally help your defense in court.
Self Defense techniques should be quick, with sufficient force to subdue the attacker. If you use too much...get a good lawyer.
@@cahallo5964 You don't want to be vicious in defending yourself. You are just asking for more problems if it is shown in court for intent.
I have done Capoeira, mixed martial arts and Muay Thai. All pretty different and it was a challenge to learn coming from Capoeira.
If I train one year of Muaythai without sparring can I still win in a street fight?
@@truthhurts6327 honestly you can probably win a street fight with what ever you train in.
@@warpony5654 thanks
@@truthhurts6327but without sparring not that good