COULD IT BE?... the source of the elusive fun facts clip??? The fun fact gag is my second favorite miles in transit joke, second only to "Poor Bid." P.S. our boy Ned is third, but he's in his own category
@@MilesinTransit Nice! I think the little inside jokes and Milesisms add a lot to the fun of the channel. Must be why the subscriber count has gone 14x since this video released. My favorite is the repeating of garbled announcements 😂
I was just sort of listening and watching out of the corner of my eye, stopped, and rolled the video back as I went, "Wait - is THIS where the 'Now that is a fun fact' clip comes from?"
Fun fact... Christmas Eve-Eve 1989 I had a gun pulled on me in the mall parking lot by a teenage girl for questioning whether her mother should have been parking in a handicap spot. And *that* was when Century III was still thriving. RIP "Corn Dog on a Stick."
Alas, now that Century III Mall is no more and has been no more for a while, the route is losing one of its deviations on October 1. It’s now going to end down the road at the Home Depot. I wrote this comment from the Sheetz next door to Century III Chevrolet (minutes from the mall!). Now that’s a fun fact.
4:05 Yes, that used to be a train station. It was used for the "PATrain" commuter train, a service operated by the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad until 1989 that ran from Pittsburgh to Versailles. Amtrak's Capitol Limited also stopped there at one point, but they stopped serving McKeesport shortly after the PATrain was discontinued.
11:00. Pittsburgh definitely has a ton of sprawl. Go 10 minutes north or west of the city. You just happen to be in the section of PIttsburgh southeast of the city that is more industrial and therefore more of a leftover "mining town" feel. Even east of the city past the east busway (Monroeville/Plum area) is great sprawl as well. The core of Pittsburgh is definitely nice, but its small and outside of that is an average north American city. The PRT has really fallen apart as well the past few years. If you have a bus line that has a 30 minute headway anymore, you're lucky.
If the Century III Mall has a million fans, then I am one of them If the Century III Mall has ten fans, then I am one of them If the Century III Mall has only one fan, then that is me If the Century III Mall has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth If the world is against the Century III Mall, then I am against the world
It was bad enough back in the days when it was the 55M Century III Mall line, from Homestead to McKeesport via Everywhere. They pretty much merged it with yet another former 55-series route and a half or so to create the 59 when they renumbered all the lines.
Awesome video! It took me 2 rides to cover the entire 59 route, splitting it at Swissvale Station. I have to LOL because I didn't quite check the travel time between Swissvale and Century III Mall (back when JC Penny was still around) and wow, I totally underestimated how long it would take to get to Swissvale. This really lives up to its name as the "Mon Valley" line, giving folks a tour of all that's in the Mon Valley!
I went to college in the Burgh... when Century III was THE mall to go to, more so than South Hills Village. 1989-1994. My last visit to the mall was in the mid-200x's... and occupancy at that time was at maybe 30 percent. Talk about being on life support.
I love when there's one of these weird 2 in 1 types of routes one of my favourites being the 499 in London because it ends randomly through a 'Hail and Ride' loop and gives you a tour of the suburbs it connects where a 10-15 minute bus journey on the 174/498 can be a 30-45 minute journey because of its silly routing
(Late comment I know) Broward County's twistiest (non shuttle) route is the 81 which is around 23 miles long even though the terminals are 8 miles apart and on the *same* road 😂 It even has a fairly long lasso shaped deviation in which both directions of the route take the same path lol. Unlike this route however, its ridership is actually among the highest in the region 🤭
Great video as always! Is more Pittsburgh content in the pipeline? I really want to visit Pittsburgh, it looks like an awesome city... Your blog post a few years ago really hyped me up! ... Would you consider the Middleboro-Taunton Connection more crazy? Imagine if GATRA operated the 59...
Sadly not for now, but I'm sure I'll end up back there at some point! Yeah, the Middleborough-Taunton Connection probably is crazier overall. Getting into the world of tiny towns probably gets you crazier stuff than this, but I can't think of any whose maps are quite as insane as the 59's!
U should come back and do a riding the whole pittsburgh transit system vid , in which i will gladly join u in this adventure(i live in pittsburgh ovbs😉🤷🏾♀️)
I'm rewatching this video and i just realized i went to the costco you pass today?! unfortunately we took the 61D but it's still so funny to see somewhere i was
I have a brother who drives this route now. And another brother who lives close to the route. It's handy for transferring stuff between places. And to get food while driving.
It's worth noting that I took back my boring comment and it was actually a great time (also how dare you edit out the mall that contained an elementary, middle, high school, and college)
Well, I'm glad you've changed your mind in retrospect! ;) And I know, that mall was fantastic...for some reason we didn't film our observations in there! I'm disappointed we didn't.
I went to Kennywood maybe 6 to a dozen times when I lived in Pittsburgh. ¡Brings back memories! I thought of riding the 59 once when I was staying at Waterfront several years ago, but never got around to it. Never made it to Century III Mall either. I love the Martin Luther King Busway as well as the West Busway. ¡They save so much time! I've always thought the West Busway is kind of weird because it doesn't make it all the way downtown and has to mix with the Carson Street and Fort Pitt Bridge traffic for a mile or three. Surprised to read that the 59 gets more passengers than the Airport Flyer, as I always used to take the 28X when I flew into Pittsburgh once it launched and that was pretty well taken, at least from Robinson Town Center. I'd bet the 28X gets more passenger-miles, though. ¿What's the longest US local bus route west of the Missisippi? Depends on how you define local. One possibility is the Mendocino Transit 65, Fort Bragg to Santa Rosa, California, at 117 miles, with 11 stops. Sage Stage Reno-Alturas beats that at 171 miles, but only has 9 stops. This is as compared to your New Jersey Transit 317, which is only about 75-80 miles but has 135 stops.
Hey I’m a train geek I watch your videos all the time would love to go on a ride with you someday. I am waiting for the next flash sale I want to do a cross country trip.
With regard to watching for a flash sale are there any web sites you can follow to get that info my email is full of spam so trying to watch for one from Amtrak is useless!
@@MilesinTransit It might be holding it's own in recent years but the overall history of Pittsburgh's fall from it's peak in the 1950s is larger than even Cleveland or Detroit. Pittsburgh is more interesting than the others and has a better downtown but as a metro area, it's economic power has faded more than the others in the last century.
@3506Dodge I disagree with that, but I did grow up there, while I no longer live there I admit there maybe some bias. While it has fallen from its "peak" of the industrial revolution, compared to other cities that also had highs at that time, it has rebounded fairly well. With companies like Amazon and Google moving fairly large cooperate hubs to areas like the Southside, Pittsburgh has become a decent tech center for companies to expand into. Also have to throw in UPMC, one of the largest medical companies in the world, in there... Speaking financially. Of course, the economy is only part of making a city great, but that was your talking point so that's what I responded to.
@@jdonovan74 PIttsburgh's peak was in the 1950s. It's the only major metro in the US that is actually shrinking in population. I with it well, but there are truths it has to accept.
Vibes based, but generally if it takes a less direct route when it could be more direct. The most obvious form of this is when it pulls into a strip mall or something!
That's a really interesting question! I'd put forth the Palmtran 1 - an almost completely straight, almost 3 hour route through pure suburban sprawl: www.palmtran.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/1.pdf
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COULD IT BE?... the source of the elusive fun facts clip???
The fun fact gag is my second favorite miles in transit joke, second only to "Poor Bid."
P.S. our boy Ned is third, but he's in his own category
Haha, you found it!! I appreciate the ranking too!
@@MilesinTransit Nice! I think the little inside jokes and Milesisms add a lot to the fun of the channel. Must be why the subscriber count has gone 14x since this video released. My favorite is the repeating of garbled announcements 😂
@@weenisw Thank you so much!!
Now that is a fun fact.
I like "body of water", myself...
I was just sort of listening and watching out of the corner of my eye, stopped, and rolled the video back as I went, "Wait - is THIS where the 'Now that is a fun fact' clip comes from?"
Yup!
Now this vid is a fun fact.
Fun fact... Christmas Eve-Eve 1989 I had a gun pulled on me in the mall parking lot by a teenage girl for questioning whether her mother should have been parking in a handicap spot. And *that* was when Century III was still thriving. RIP "Corn Dog on a Stick."
Alas, now that Century III Mall is no more and has been no more for a while, the route is losing one of its deviations on October 1. It’s now going to end down the road at the Home Depot.
I wrote this comment from the Sheetz next door to Century III Chevrolet (minutes from the mall!).
Now that’s a fun fact.
Oh no!!! Maybe it'll deviate INTO the Home Depot so the deviation count is still the same...
End to end being almost 11 miles as the crow flies, if you’re a runner, you can run there quicker.
So this is the video that started the fun fact? Now THAT is a FUN FACT!
4:05 Yes, that used to be a train station. It was used for the "PATrain" commuter train, a service operated by the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad until 1989 that ran from Pittsburgh to Versailles. Amtrak's Capitol Limited also stopped there at one point, but they stopped serving McKeesport shortly after the PATrain was discontinued.
Now ride the VTA Orange line, arguably the most deviatory rail transit route in the country
Since June 9, 2022, Port Authority Transit (PAT) was rebranded as Pittsburgh Regional Transit (PRT).
11:00. Pittsburgh definitely has a ton of sprawl. Go 10 minutes north or west of the city. You just happen to be in the section of PIttsburgh southeast of the city that is more industrial and therefore more of a leftover "mining town" feel. Even east of the city past the east busway (Monroeville/Plum area) is great sprawl as well. The core of Pittsburgh is definitely nice, but its small and outside of that is an average north American city.
The PRT has really fallen apart as well the past few years. If you have a bus line that has a 30 minute headway anymore, you're lucky.
If the Century III Mall has a million fans, then I am one of them
If the Century III Mall has ten fans, then I am one of them
If the Century III Mall has only one fan, then that is me
If the Century III Mall has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth
If the world is against the Century III Mall, then I am against the world
Amen comrade #IStandWithCenturyIIIMall
It was bad enough back in the days when it was the 55M Century III Mall line, from Homestead to McKeesport via Everywhere. They pretty much merged it with yet another former 55-series route and a half or so to create the 59 when they renumbered all the lines.
Add in a couple of construction projects and a bridge being weight limited and there you go.
@@robertlunderwood Pittsburgh in a nutshell.
Awesome video! It took me 2 rides to cover the entire 59 route, splitting it at Swissvale Station. I have to LOL because I didn't quite check the travel time between Swissvale and Century III Mall (back when JC Penny was still around) and wow, I totally underestimated how long it would take to get to Swissvale. This really lives up to its name as the "Mon Valley" line, giving folks a tour of all that's in the Mon Valley!
I FOUND THE SOURCE OF THAT IS A FUN FACT
Fun ride - and thanks for the publicity!
Thanks! And of course - your video is the perfect explainer for the busway!
I went to college in the Burgh... when Century III was THE mall to go to, more so than South Hills Village. 1989-1994.
My last visit to the mall was in the mid-200x's... and occupancy at that time was at maybe 30 percent. Talk about being on life support.
Fun fact: Pittsburgh does not have more bridges than any other city. For example Hamburg, Germany has more.
Even Jacksonville?
¡Heresy!
Prove it
How many Super Bowl championships does Hamburg have? World Series? Stanley Cups?
Now that is a fun fact
I love when there's one of these weird 2 in 1 types of routes one of my favourites being the 499 in London because it ends randomly through a 'Hail and Ride' loop and gives you a tour of the suburbs it connects where a 10-15 minute bus journey on the 174/498 can be a 30-45 minute journey because of its silly routing
(Late comment I know)
Broward County's twistiest (non shuttle) route is the 81 which is around 23 miles long even though the terminals are 8 miles apart and on the *same* road 😂
It even has a fairly long lasso shaped deviation in which both directions of the route take the same path lol.
Unlike this route however, its ridership is actually among the highest in the region 🤭
Oh wow, that is an impressively twisty route for a gridded street network!
I still support the century III mall #IStandWithCenturyIIIMall
I knew there was a good reason I liked this girl -- she's a yinzer!
Great video as always! Is more Pittsburgh content in the pipeline?
I really want to visit Pittsburgh, it looks like an awesome city... Your blog post a few years ago really hyped me up!
... Would you consider the Middleboro-Taunton Connection more crazy?
Imagine if GATRA operated the 59...
Sadly not for now, but I'm sure I'll end up back there at some point!
Yeah, the Middleborough-Taunton Connection probably is crazier overall. Getting into the world of tiny towns probably gets you crazier stuff than this, but I can't think of any whose maps are quite as insane as the 59's!
What a ride. Pittsburgh rocks.
U should come back and do a riding the whole pittsburgh transit system vid , in which i will gladly join u in this adventure(i live in pittsburgh ovbs😉🤷🏾♀️)
@ 4:10 it's pronounced "vur-sails" here. But god bless you for trying to say it correctly lmao
I vaguely remember that mall from when I lived in Pgh, in the late 1990s/early aughts.
I'm rewatching this video and i just realized i went to the costco you pass today?! unfortunately we took the 61D but it's still so funny to see somewhere i was
My grandmother would have called that a banana line. Her term for odd bus lines.
When I move to Pittsburgh I’m going to try this route!
I have a brother who drives this route now. And another brother who lives close to the route. It's handy for transferring stuff between places. And to get food while driving.
It's worth noting that I took back my boring comment and it was actually a great time
(also how dare you edit out the mall that contained an elementary, middle, high school, and college)
Well, I'm glad you've changed your mind in retrospect! ;)
And I know, that mall was fantastic...for some reason we didn't film our observations in there! I'm disappointed we didn't.
I have utilized and been inside Century III in 2017
Thank you for being a longtime supporter of Century III
THIS IS WHERE THAT IS A FUN FACT CAME FROM😂 2:12
You found it!!!
@@MilesinTransit Yay! That amazing moment was on bud 59 of all things!😂
Now that is a fun fact.
I went to Kennywood maybe 6 to a dozen times when I lived in Pittsburgh. ¡Brings back memories!
I thought of riding the 59 once when I was staying at Waterfront several years ago, but never got around to it. Never made it to Century III Mall either.
I love the Martin Luther King Busway as well as the West Busway. ¡They save so much time! I've always thought the West Busway is kind of weird because it doesn't make it all the way downtown and has to mix with the Carson Street and Fort Pitt Bridge traffic for a mile or three.
Surprised to read that the 59 gets more passengers than the Airport Flyer, as I always used to take the 28X when I flew into Pittsburgh once it launched and that was pretty well taken, at least from Robinson Town Center. I'd bet the 28X gets more passenger-miles, though.
¿What's the longest US local bus route west of the Missisippi? Depends on how you define local. One possibility is the Mendocino Transit 65, Fort Bragg to Santa Rosa, California, at 117 miles, with 11 stops. Sage Stage Reno-Alturas beats that at 171 miles, but only has 9 stops. This is as compared to your New Jersey Transit 317, which is only about 75-80 miles but has 135 stops.
Sage stage is goofy because it's a reservation thing though
This is a certified Pittsburgh moment
Fun fact: century three malls, the first place I played DDR!
Hey I’m a train geek I watch your videos all the time would love to go on a ride with you someday. I am waiting for the next flash sale I want to do a cross country trip.
Sheesh and I thought the MTA's Bx30 route was crazy....
I moved to Pittsburgh this week and needed to go to Walmart. I accidentally ended up at the one that the 59 Mon Valley ends at. Now that’s a fun fact.
Now that's a fun fact
My God I think I've been to that mall
Lots of wood in the video, very little of it being Kenny's.
How did you meet these people ?
With regard to watching for a flash sale are there any web sites you can follow to get that info my email is full of spam so trying to watch for one from Amtrak is useless!
Few American cities have fallen further from their peak than Pittsburgh.
I dunno, I personally think Pittsburgh is holding on better than places like Cleveland or Detroit.
@@MilesinTransit It might be holding it's own in recent years but the overall history of Pittsburgh's fall from it's peak in the 1950s is larger than even Cleveland or Detroit. Pittsburgh is more interesting than the others and has a better downtown but as a metro area, it's economic power has faded more than the others in the last century.
@3506Dodge I disagree with that, but I did grow up there, while I no longer live there I admit there maybe some bias.
While it has fallen from its "peak" of the industrial revolution, compared to other cities that also had highs at that time, it has rebounded fairly well.
With companies like Amazon and Google moving fairly large cooperate hubs to areas like the Southside, Pittsburgh has become a decent tech center for companies to expand into.
Also have to throw in UPMC, one of the largest medical companies in the world, in there... Speaking financially.
Of course, the economy is only part of making a city great, but that was your talking point so that's what I responded to.
@@jdonovan74 PIttsburgh's peak was in the 1950s. It's the only major metro in the US that is actually shrinking in population. I with it well, but there are truths it has to accept.
Came here just to find this - 2:17
The d14 and the p12 of WMATA is slightly crazier
Those look pretty crazy, but I think this is still more so!
A12 was twistier before they split it in 2 so the current twistiest imo are the W2 and W3
When I lived in Ohio I called Giant Eagle 'Geagle'
Tcat 13
Not crazier than this!
it's called PRT
eh
So - what is the definition of a transit deviation?
Vibes based, but generally if it takes a less direct route when it could be more direct. The most obvious form of this is when it pulls into a strip mall or something!
I wonder what is the most boring bus route in the states?
That's a really interesting question! I'd put forth the Palmtran 1 - an almost completely straight, almost 3 hour route through pure suburban sprawl: www.palmtran.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/1.pdf
@@MilesinTransit Not found. Now at www.palmtran.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/1.pdf
You pronounced Versailles wrong.
How is it pronounced?
@@MilesinTransit Ver-sails.
Oh interesting! We pronounced it the French way, I guess!
As did I (I'm a bilingual Canadian boy 😊)
Is that maoist propaganda at 10:55?
Oh wow, maybe??
@@MilesinTransit rare intersection of niche knowledge moment