RISC-V 2024 Update: RISE, AI Accelerators & More
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- Опубликовано: 6 апр 2024
- RISC-V annual update, covering developments in RISC-V hardware and software including RISE, Quintaris, and AI accelerators.
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Links to the websites/sources included in the video (in order of appearance) are as follows:
RISC-V International “About”: riscv.org/about/
RISC-V on GitHub: github.com/riscv/riscv-isa-ma...
Business Wire “Five Leading Semiconductor Industry Players Incorporate New Company, Quintauris, to Drive RISC-V Ecosystem Forward”, December 2023. Available at: www.businesswire.com/news/hom...
Quintaris website: www.quintauris.eu/
Linux Foundation Europe: “Industry Leaders Launch RISE to Accelerate the Development of Open Source Software for RISC-V”, May 2023. Available at:
linuxfoundation.eu/newsroom/r...
RISE: RISC-V Software Ecosystem: riseproject.dev/
Canonical “Industry Leaders Launch RISE to Accelerate the Development of Open Source Software for RISC-V”, November 2023. Available at:
canonical.com/blog/canonical-...
RISC-V International blog post on RISC-V Labs, November 2023. Available at:
riscv.org/blog/2023/11/accele...
RISC-V Developer Board Program, RISC-V International blog post November 2023: riscv.org/risc-v-developer-bo...
RISC-V Certifications & Courses: riscv.org/certifications-and-...
The SHD Group: “RISC-V Market Report: Application Forecasts in a Heterogeneous World”, January 2024. Available via: theshdgroup.com/market-reports/
Andes Technology Press Release “Andes Technology’s N25F RISC-V Processor Enables Superior Performance and Low Power for Phison’s X1 Enterprise SSD Controller”, April 2023. Available at www.andestech.com/en/2023/04/...
Tom’s Hardware, “Chinese Tech Giant Alibaba Launches PCIe Gen5 SSD Controller Based on RISC-V”, November 2023. Available at: www.tomshardware.com/pc-compo...
Ventana “Ventana Introduces Veyron V2 - World’s Highest Performance Data Center-Class RISC-V Processor and Platform”, November 2023. Available at: www.ventanamicro.com/ventana-...
Esperanto AI Products: www.esperanto.ai/products/
Esperanto AI News: www.esperanto.ai/news/
Meta “MSVP: Meta’s first ASIC for video transcoding”, May 2023. Available at: ai.meta.com/blog/meta-scalabl...
Meta “MTIA v1: Meta’s first-generation AI inference accelerator”, May 23 2023. Available at: ai.meta.com/blog/meta-trainin...
Tech Radar “Meta has done something that will get Nvidia and AMD very, very worried”, December 2023. Available at:
www.techradar.com/pro/meta-ha...
Codasip “RISC-V Summit report: Meta leads the way for custom processors”, December 2023, available at: codasip.com/2023/12/18/risc-v...
Sipeed Lichee Series web pages: sipeed.com/licheepi4a
Google Open Source Blog, “Android and RISC-V: What you need to know to be ready”, October 2023. Available at: opensource.googleblog.com/202...
Qualcom “Qualcomm to Bring RISC-V Based Wearable Platform to Wear OS by Google”, October 2023. Available at:
www.qualcomm.com/news/release...
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Chapters:
01:07 Advancing RISC-V
04:02 RISC-V Progress
06:40 Enterprise RISC-V
09:39 End-User RISC-V
12:53 Exciting Times
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It’s not promising anymore. It’s delivering. Really excellent news!
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When the video is 14 minutes long and you have 50 likes while having uploaded the video around 3 minutes ago, you know you have interested and loyal audience. Greetings Chris!
Greetings!
@ExplainingComputers
Greetings, chris!
I normally click Like first, but since YT is sneaky, I've started to wonder if they actually count it, even if they show it as counted to me. On videos with only a few likes, if I check in a private window it looks like they don't.
@@TooSlowTube they just dont count that well, tom scott has a video on it
I usually slam the like button as soon as the video is up. 🤭
Sharing links to articles in your video description is a time-saver for your viewers. THANK YOU.
You are welcome!
Kinda crazy to think that there's a RISC-V CPU inside my Google Pixel's security chip. It's a lot more popular than I thought it was. Great video as always!
:)
I hope risc-v becomes the defacto computing standard and gets everyone out of the clutches of the IME, PSP, and ludicrous license fees.
Accretion coming... replace with RISC-V and also replace the OS (very cheap /Free)
AMD, INTC Slip as China Moves Away from Western Tech
China officials tell telecom carriers to phase out foreign chips by 2027.
This is U$A dream come true ..
China helping U$A to stop chip companies from supplying Chinese companies.
So great to see the two governments working together.
Risc-V is cool, but the forces that drove the creation of the IME may well give us similar type things on RISC V systems as well. If you can replace discrete chips with weird complex features on the CPU, it saves per-unit costs. So it's hard to imagine this kind of thing not happening.
Now, in Risc-V we may get a choice of cheaper systems with such approaches, and more expensive ones without. Or, due to market forces, we may not get a choice.
Great to see RISC 5 coming so far. 🥳 The competition alone of having an open processor architecture is a great thing, and will help it grow.
I agree. The world is big enough for more than two dominant processor architectures.
@@ExplainingComputers are you for real? Don’t you see the issue in this troubled world with Putin rising? This is giving a terror state unlimited access to what they need in weapons. Smart move.
I find the development of RISC-V fascinating and appreciated this yearly update. Looking forward to your next video!
Greetings Perry.
It is always great to be greeted by you. Overall in your videos, I’m surprised that I agree with you almost all of the time. I enjoy your variety of topics.
"Exciting Times" is the understatement of the year!!! I'm of an age where FORTRAN 77 was still taught at University, a 64kb trunk was screaming fast, and we had a "Turbo" button to slow our PCs down from 12MHz to 9MHz so the older software could still be used. It will be interesting to see how the next 6 years play out on the market estimates. Exciting Times, indeed!!!
PCs that had an ISA bus, a recycled acronym!
Ah, you young people. I remember Fortransit as a premium option. We wrote in SOAP.
@@jimpuls3532 punch cards for everyone 🤣😃🤣😃
I am of the age when FORTRAN was taught through using punch cards. Seeing your little FORTRAN program run successfully on a million-dollar IBM 360 mainframe - THAT was excitement!
I'm of an age where the day I was born was 36 years ago.
RISC is moving along in leaps and bounds. This will cause a major revolution in computing.
It will be a happy day when we can order, receive, unpack & use a RISC-V desktop machine.
Thank you Chris, there were a lot of information packed into this video... 🙂
Thanks for your support. :)
You can order the Milk-V Pioneer, but it's very expensive. Later this year the Milk-V Oasis is expected. Price might be starting around $150, for a miini ATX system.
Definitely exciting times! It is amazing how much RISC-V has progressed over your annual updates. Seems like it is really picking up steam!
I had no idea RISC-V was so much involved with AI. Very exciting.
Rather the opposite: Every AI company is adopting RISC-V.
And they are doing it in many different ways. Eventually, I think that some of these approaches are going to look to be superior to others for different types of applications.
Once again, when I search RUclips for a video on something that is new to me, like this, I found you have a comprehensive video from a year ago! Excellent.
Thanks for watching. :)
His videos are always GREATNESS! His work demands an instant LIKE!
Thanks.
Your comment inspired me to press that like button!
Done and agreed. And I haven't even watched this week's contribution to global knowledge yet. I just know in advance!
@@xrafter Both these comments inspired me to press the like button, so I pressed it twice, once for each.
Pretty much always gets one from me 😀
Amazing! It's awesome you make these annually.
I got myself a Lichee Pi 4a, and the first time I turned it on, it couldn't find the WLAN. Ended up having to flash it with the newest image to get it working. I even added the Debian sources.list for faster and more current updates, since the default repository felt slow and outdated. But all things considered, I'm pretty happy with it. It's been awesome for learning RISC-V assembly language.
Thank YOU for the videos. I'm looking at risc-v currently.
Thank you! RISC-V is exciting indeed.
Very nice update. RISC-V is an area of technology in which I have interest, so good word from you is always welcome. Thanks!
Interesting update on RISC-V.
Probably too late for this video but Espressif, the creator of the ESP32 line of microcontrollers have announced the ESP32-P4 which has two 400 MHz RISC-V cores and 50 GPIO pins. Maybe nothing for you people that have to run operating systems but seems that Espressif is going all in with RISC-V.
I will say that I don't notice what ISA I am using. But maybe that's the point.
I didn't not verify this, but their was this story from China in 2020 or in the few years that followed that the most popular DIY ARM-based Microcontroller wasn't being produced enough and that a RISC-V competitor took over the most popular spot because it could be slotted in place, for a very comparable price and with more features and pretty similar power envelope as well.
@@autohmae There were lots of supply issues during covid but unfortunately risc-v didn't fill any gaps. Lots companies switched vendors to anyone actually selling ARM microcontrollers. 3D printer boards for example when through multiple different ST microcontroller variants and then onto Raspberry Pi 2040's. Things have settled back down now. Its likely that Risc-V will win out in the end but its going to take a long time.
@@backgammonbacon I'm certain it will take a long time, RISC-V is ahead of schedule in what I thought would happen.
It makes sense, previous ESP boards used the xtensa ISA, wich was popular for DSPs because it is very flexible, allowing a company to only put the useful features on its CPU.
The downside is that Xtensa is a small ISA, much smaller than RISC-V. (In popularity). And due to its extreme flexibility, every Xtensa CPU is incompatible, needing a custom LLVM fork for every CPU model.
Risc-v have standardized extensions, so it still is a quite flexible ISA, but you can just use regular LLVM, no need for custom fork.
The new ESP32s are of some interest to the retrocomputer enthusiasts since they are always looking for cheap, fast, programmable signal generators with GPIO to act as a terminal, video processor or similar kinds of support chips. An open ISA is a bonus.
Love your work!
Thanks for your support, most appreciated.
It will take long till the throne of x86 is taken in the desk-/laptop market, but I’m glad that new cpus are appearing.
Personally I don't want x86 to be taken over by RISC-V but I would definitely welcome it being an option. The thing I'd rather want to see RISC-V take over is ARM devices. x86 offers backwards compatibility, ARM offers e-waste.
Accretion coming... replace with RISC-V and also replace the OS (very cheap /Free)
AMD, INTC Slip as China Moves Away from Western Tech
China officials tell telecom carriers to phase out foreign chips by 2027.
This is U$A dream come true ..
China helping U$A to stop chip companies from supplying Chinese companies.
So great to see the two governments working together.
I feel educated. I didn't really know much about RISC. Sounds like we may be coming into the dawn of something great. I look forward to more in this topic. Thanks Chris!
Intel and AMD chips are RISC chips that just present x86/64 interfaces to the other components. RISC came about when we started getting to compiled code i.e C programming it turned out that most programs only actually uses a small subset of the instructions available on the CPU so cutting out the ones not used allowed for much simpler and thus cheaper CPU's.
ARM is also a RISC processor - it's what the R in the middle stands for.
Very exciting new developments! I can't wait to see new videos you'll do of new products using RISC-V. 👍👍
The ISA is open, but that doesn't mean specific implementations by chip manufacturers are.
Correct.
Indeed, and they might not necessarily be interoperable.
Good morning! It's time to get RISC-y up in here...
It's getting RISC-y over here with all the wind we've been having, way to go 'Storm Kathleen' 👀
@@alanthornton3530Oh, yikes! I hope you all stay safe over there... :(
Excellent video - I've not yet taken the plunge and bought any RiscV hardware yet and happy to be a passive observer till I decide to take a bite. High quality and interesting video on the subject - thank you!
I have been "testing the waters" with Espressif ESP32-C Series dev boards which are RISC-V based. Environment used is the Arduino IDE and MS VSC with PlatformIO. Proves that RISC-V will be the next "unseen" micro controller in all the gizmos we use daily.
Google testing Android on RISC-V ?!.. that would be awesome. ChromeFlex would be neat to see on RISC-V.
I always keep Sunday evening free for Explaining Computer's video.
Knowledge booster ❤
Thanks for watching. :)
Great report.
Great edit.
Thank you, very much, Chris, for your thoughtful efforts (all around).
Appreciated.
Another great video! Thank you, Chris.
Great review and analysis as always. Good job and LOVE the channel!
I had no idea RISC-V was a threat even to GPUs and NPUs for machine learning. I just figured it was a competitor to ARM. I hope to see it competing with desktop CPUs in an ATX form factor one day. I'd love to have Linux on RISC-V in a full fat desktop PC.
Thank you for keeping notes regarding the topic, so that anyone can watch the video
Another Sunday, another video. Anyway good video like always! Thanks a lot!
Thanks Chris for another happy Sunday. These are certainly exciting times for RISC-V development & a thoroughly interesting video to boot. In 1987 I had access to an Acorn BBC B Micro computer I didn't realise that I was using a RISC processor until more recently, there are several interesting RUclips videos including 'The potted history of ARM' with Sophie Wilson & Steve Furber the co-designers of the ARM processor. Take care kind & regards Alan :)
Greetings Alan.
Hi Alan, the 'BBC B Micro' sounds like its the Model B. These were before Acorn used ARM chips. If it was a text interface (like a commodore 64) when you started it up, it was the predecessor. If it had a windows-like interface that you controlled with a mouse, then it was the ARM-powered generation of Acorn Archimedes computers. I had a few of these back in the day, awesome machines for the time.
Further to this, interestingly, the ARM chips at the time had a similar ISA size to the current risc-v chips. The current Arm chips ISA are much larger than competing x86 chips back in the late '80s. Think of risc-v as a reboot of the original arm chips, but with better architecture, open source, and small process node.
The BBC Model B microcomputer used a 6502 8-bit processor which predates RISC, though it has been described as "Classic RISC" for its minimalist design. You could also connect a second processor to the BBC using the "Tube" interface, and this CPU could be of various different architectures such as 6502, Z80 and more. I think this was used to test the earliest ARM processors while they were being developed.
@@jandrews377 It was the text interface that I used in 1987 for my 'O' level computer studies, my first encounter with a mouse was using Win 97 a blast from the late 90's
I love the RISC V stuff since I don't know much about it. Good ingo. Thanks!
Great explanation - best channel for anything computing!
Can't wait to see RISC development into next year. Great video
Risc-V shaded recent time. It's a good you keep the topic alive.
Spectacular video 👍 Thank you, EC.
RISC-V is as exciting as ever . . . like Acorn in the 80's!
Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
Great job! Thank you for the new info.
Thanks for the update very very useful. looking forwards to more from yourself and thanks again
Great update. Thank you!
Wow, RISC-V development is really accelerating rapidly! Thanks for this report. You've really inspired my interest in RISC-V so I'm following along with keen intent. Thinking about purchasing an SBC for experimentation...
Great update
Thanks for sharing your video with all of us 🙂
Thank you for all this interesting information about RISC-V.
You always do a great job both in your research and in presenting this information.
This video was really well done. Thank you.
RISC-V is to open hardware what Linux has been to open-source software
Nice summary, coffee (or tea ;) for you! Thank you.
Thanks, your support is most appreciated.
Open source ECUs for cars are pretty important, IMHO, and I'm glad to hear RISE has them on their radar.
Sunday greetings, Chris. Thanks for this video.
This year's RISC - V update is certainly no surprise being a leap over last year's all around adoption. China's work on RISC V is certainly something to keep an eye for.
I love these RISC updates. I'm glad to see more RISC-V devices hitting the industrial and systems development scenarios. I am just waiting for more software and OS official support of the instruction set the hardware on which it runs.
I originally thought it worked be risky looking through the comments for fear of to many good puns.
It has been wonderful to watch the the progress of the technology, and seeing it thrive in areas other architectures are lacking.
As always v interesting. Thank you
RISC-V to the other architectures - I am your wingman!
0:55 It does not matter if x86 and ARM is faster and better, the fact that these are Closed ISA, their corresponding government can throw the Ban Hammer and deprive certain countries from using it. My money is on Open ISA in general and RISC-V in particular.
Very useful, TY!)
Always interesting to cover all and every tech alternatives,always.
I'm eager to get an ATX motherboard to use as a development workstation. Also, Jim Keller's company, Tenstorrent, is doing some very interesting stuff with RISC-V. Considering his very esteemed pedigree, having produced some incredible results at Intel and AMD, I'm eager to see what his firm produces.
Mr Keller has stated multiple times that what they're working on is AI accelerators. So beyond using RV cores as controllers and the frontend, I don't see what one has to do with the other. Unless RISC-V comes up with a spec for vector 4bit vector ALUs, or 512bit ALUs - which it does not have, the spec only gets in the way for designing NPUs.
I loved playing RISC in the 80s.
😅
Can you believe there has been five iterations since then? Time sure flies.
Great video. Thanks
Thanks Chris for this excellent update video.
So far my only RISC-V product that I own is a Pine64 “Pinecil” soldering iron. They also have a SBC and PineTab with the RISC-V SOC’s but I waiting for improved software as I am not a software guru…😂!
Well have a great week!
i personally would like to see either RISC-V or ARM full desktops ( not SBCs ) , but even then I might go with ARM, because it just seems RISC-V even at their most powerful lags behind ARM.
thanks for the update
Best channel out there! Thank you...
a sidenote: the new arm qualcomm snapdragon looks positively radiant and blows away both amd and intel, particularly in multicore. here i just built out a new and improved opnsense box - 3rd gen sff hp with 16gb ram - it came with an i7 which i transpanted into my ws - double bonus - the opnsense with i5 will be fine - it doubles my cores and ram over present machine - i just wanted some breathing room - should work well - the machine arrived filled with dirt, had to dissemble entire machine but things worked out after a bath - it was too dirty for mere compressed air. the i7 chip goes for 40, i got box for 30 so made out after some footwork - hoping it wil run well and for a long time - burn in is going well. keep making the good content - take a look at qualcomm arm efforts when you get a chance - there could be a tempest in a teapot brewing!
As more RISC-V dev tools are available, more polished software will enhance the ecosystem.
I came for the glasses stayed for the hair
Hopefully there will also be great developer tools for RISC-V machine learning.
Perhaps even something to translate CUDA to make the transition easier.
The demand for smartwatch is also fairly limited compared to a smartphone, tablet and PC, so it does seem like the easiest market to begin in for wider regular consumer adoption.
Otherwise probably more so in countries with limited access to ARM and x86 that will more heavily push for RISC-V being used more widely.
nice to see some competion to arm.
An update on riscV nice love the annual update . You should create Audio versions of your videos
Now theres a great idea!
Im a big enthusiast of RISC V. Im sending my best wishes for it to succeed. I think inovative companies such as Google should try to adopt it as main processing unit. Maybe when building their own chips, they could help improve the tech
I received two RISC-V microcontrollers in the mail last Friday that I ordered: a tiny ESP32-C3 board and a CH32V203C8T6 Blue Pill clone. RISC-V is slowly gaining traction in the microcontroller market.
This says it all! :)
Interesting. I wouldn't have predicted that RISC-V will be used for AI accelerators. Though the extensible architecture and instructionset basically allows everything, so I shouldn't be surprised.
This is so exciting to see.
I'm excited to see if Ventana will make an accessibile Veyron V2 demo board for the home lab. That's what's missing right now: a board with one of the higher performance cores that can be used for local development.
Now that would be cool.
Merry Sunday one and all.... :)
Happy Sunday!
Greetings!
Ah, a moment of respite before returning to the weekly grind. Thanks Chris
Every time someone mentioned AI, it gives me the shivers. I'm old school I would rather use a z80 chip. 🙂
Z80 was cool. Still in some washing machines I think.
With every Risk video I get excited and think This is the year of RiskV! And then another year passes...
Sunday Morning Rise and Shine EC
This was an excellent report on the previous year's RISC-V developments! I think the most exciting developments are the likes of RISE and RISC-V Labs working towards accelerating development of open-source software for RISC-V, Meta's MSVP and MTIA, and (showing my fandom here... 🤭) your RISC-V week video diary. Hopefully 2024 will bring more great progress in RISC-V development.
I feel you may have explained how you do what I'm about to ask you before somewhere, my memory's utterly terrible and I apologize, but how do you put together these annual recaps on not just RISC-V, but quantum computing?
These reviews videos as basically just slog -- lots of gathering information, lots of reading, and lots of trying to work out what to include, what to exclude (here a lot!), and what to group into segments. For both RISC-V and quantum computing I open the script file for the next year's review as soon as I finish the current one, and then as news comes up in feeds (social media, but also press releases), I throw stuff into the document. So when I went to start making this particular video, the script was was already 11 months old, and full of possible material to include.
@@ExplainingComputers Very interesting! Thank you, Chris. :)
(p.s., hope your weekend's going well!)
One thing that comes to my mind is that while ISA is open, the IP for the cores and CPUs are not. The good thing here is that we might see limited license impact of the CPUs as Intel/AMD/Arm would see true competition on the market.
The downside is that many OSS projects are going back to closed licenses as a side effect of cloud behemoths making money for free on others work. I guess with RISC-V ISA it might be the same. While technically open, we will have few major market players dictating the prices, at least in high end market
Nice to see some coverage of microcontrollers, would like more of that if it's possible.
Great video. If you are looking for a quick and easy video topic, maybe you should take us on a tour of the free RISC-V courses you mentioned at 3:58. It would be interesting to see what is available and see if these are courses that would benefit us.
A good video idea -- noted! :)
Java 21 and 22 now available on RISC V as of April 3!
It seems like only a year or two ago the consensus was that RISC-V would likely be virtually unusable for desktop use for at least a decade. I'm glad to see that things have progressed so far in so short a time.
The best thing about a Sunday afternoon is Christopher dropping a video #TeamExplainingComputersDotCom
:)
TEAM EC ALL THE WAY!!!
Now that RISC-V things are happening faster, I hope you can do another RISC-V update video in say 6 months. At this point waiting a year is too long.
A good point. I will certainly consider this.
I bought a TuringPi 4 slot motherboard and have two Turing RISC-V SOM with the RK3588 and
Mixtile SOM also with RK3588. Each have 32GB RAM.
It will be nice to see consumer electronics with RISC-V, Android is going to be key in the speed of adaptation and chip availability.
Thanks!
Thanks for your support.
THIS IS THE FUTURE!!!!
From what I remember us a lot of USA asking About this as they couldnt fully understand the code.
So it was base code plus an accelerator.
The chip made by Canada was the code open source with a lock on it so it couldn't be upscaled past a certain speed.
They were asking about hardware locks and software locks. The hardware locks in theory could be bypassed easy if you could extract the code and put it on an open chipset.
The software lock could be a program string not allowing it to go past a certain speed or something to create an error, or increase error rate as it goes faster and faster.
It could be lots of things.
It could be more than one lock or lots hidden.
So they were asking if I was privy to this Intel.
No.
But they were able to unlock it past 1 or 2 simple locks they found in a day when they don't fully understand the code in the first place.
So it is a mystery to me if there are hidden locks that will give Canada an advantage later and backdoors in the system that would allow Canada to hijack all the arm based chips for surveillance.
Base x86 spec is actually an open standard and it's royalty-free; it's the extensions that are proprietary. Every modern x86-64 CPU has ISA extensions; without them the chip wouldn't do much and would be able to operate only in the 16-bit mode. Intel and AMD have cross-licensing agreements for many of these extensions, and it's one of the reasons why Intel and AMD CPUs are mostly cross-compatible.
Thank you.
I love the idea of running an open source OS on an open CPU/architecture.
Well done
the moment the MNT reform and MNT pocket reform come out with a riscV module, im gonna make the jump. for high end desktop use, riscV is far from being suitable but for a small laptop its definitely getting there, and it lines up perfectly with MNT's open hardware design philosophy