I’ve been using this for about a week now and made a few amazing songs. It’s just so mind blowing to me. I feel like a wizard showing people what it can do.
Made and posted two songs both with Suno and Udio and I can’t say I like one better than the other. One thing to note is that it’s pretty hard, or impossible, to get consistency with Udio when it comes to 2 or 3 minutes song, whereas Suno will keep the same melodies, verses and/or chorus, throughout the whole song. But Udio’s voices are really impressive. And it’s only a beta. Can’t wait for what comes next.
@TheMasterOfShadows well I'm far from a newb thanks. I'm 50 and have been playing and writing in 15 bands since age 16 but this is the first iteration and if you had any foresight you would see it's only gonna get better
@@darrendaj Well people who know music know at this point AI is still a baby and being worked on, only people who don't know music think it has already replaced them. If you know you know, if you don't then you take offence.
@@AstroQuestMusic dude, I check out a lot of ai music, I would not call a majority of it good. Some good, a lot ok, majority is just messing having fun goofing off. In your hands being as you know music theory you should be cracking out good songs left and right. My opinion, is AI can inspire you to create works of art, AI at this point wont make it on it's own.
This is AMAZING! I learned about Udio a few days ago from another RUclips channel, and I immediately signed up on their website. I like Suno, but I will definitely continue to create songs via Udio. Thank you for the overview! :)
@@theAIsearch ??? I made 10 minutes songs that I could still extend with udio back when they gave us basically unlimited credit during the beta. Is suno not limited to 4 minutes anymore?
Found Udio about 3 days ago and I'm having a blast with creating full songs with it _ There are some limitations but the possibilities are suitable in it's beta state _ Things are getting nuts in AI music, Amazing!
Udio's AI makes the best of masterpieces. Its so much fun and inspires so much creativity. We are here at last. It does suck at the moment that you have to merge a few pieces together into one and it can be a bit hard to do it with the AI, but iv been able to make full songs with it, perfect transitions, context, consistency, etc. and it is insane.
Since Udio released, it feels like Suno has been suddenly improving in several aspects: generation speed, prompt coherence (somewhat), number of generations allowed , all images now way better... Seems like they definitively are pressured by Udio. Let's hope the competition keeps going.
Ngl this looks way too similar to Suno lmao. I was looking for something with that doesn´t have limit. Thank you for showing us!! The most annoying thing about Suno is that it has a limit of how many characters you can use in the lyrics and genre tag which makes it very difficult to make something really specific. I already love that about Udio. It´s just fun making some cool sht in my free time.
Despite having way worse "irl" voices compared to udio, sunio actually emulates Hatsune Miku's voice WAY better than udio does. Probably a training data difference. So, that's actually a point for suno.
I was very disappointed when I put in "vocaloid, Hatsune Miku" in the prompt and it just returns a human voice layered with synthesizers and autotunes. Nevertheless, Udio is pretty cool
As a musician who has been hindered by the constraints of work and family responsibilities, I see this as a godsend. I still write lyrics and have song ideas but never have the time to arrange and record. This allows me some semblance of creative expression.
Your songs made with AI are going to be totally worthless. Nobody will care if song includes your own lyrics or ideas. Actually they just slow you down, nothing else. After you have finished one song made with AI with your own lyrics, meanwhile neighbour kiddo made 100 just as good songs with AI. This is unfortunately the truth.
@@tomhe286 LOL musicians make music that they like FOR THEMSELVES as an expression of creativity. They don’t do it for other people. I’m enjoying Suno and don’t care if others like what I make on it or not.
@@CreAiteMusic Even you dont believe that. Or why should they share their music, do live shows and so on? No, its not about musicians themelves, it is about music, sharing, having fun together and even impressing others
@@tomhe286 nobody becomes a musician so they become rich or famous... it's a by-product of doing what they love. Do you think the Beatles asked their audience what type of song to make next? Or what album theme to do? Granted as they got more famous, producers and so forth advised them - but ultimately they did what they wanted. No need to be so bleak, my friend. Use the tools you have around you to make what you like - whether it's a beat up guitar with a single string like Brushy One String or a full, slick multi-million production suite. Peace!
Lol. This is like the 7th video about this. Udio has some interesting features but the songs are not even 1/10 the quality of what you can do on Suno. These RIP Suno clickbate-titles is laughable.
@@theAIsearch, just comparing the two, you're right, Udio (in my opinion) does have better vocals and cleaner/clearer audio than Suno... I was hesitant to create too many songs with Udio until I saw this video regarding the Terms of Service! Thank you for this informative video! :)
Now try to finish Carolina-O because it ends abruptly at 1:38. It's the only thing I can stand on Udio and yes, it's beautiful but I've been trying for a few weeks to finish it and it's impossible in Udio's current state. Udio can't remember how it sang the first chorus to save it's life. We're talking basic song writing, basic hooks.
Just a little update, UDIO can now do 2.10 songs instead of 32 seconds. I do have a sub to it so not sure if it's on the free version but I did actually ask if they were going to this and a week later it appeared.
If I click on "extend" the next part it generates is too different from the first imo Is there some trick to make it sound like one song instead of multiple different parts? Or to repeat section like chorus and have identical (other than lyrics) verse parts, etc.?
2 questions about this site - Firstly; In these promps, which types of things can or can you not say? Could you tell it to use certain chords for example and be endlessly specific about any other thing that you can think of? - Secondly, can you also ask it to make a song in the style of an artist, mention an artist etc?
Certain chords yes but don't expect extreme consistency. Same for basically every other technical detail about music. Most of all, don't ask for too many things altogether. The technology isn't quite there yet. Artists yes but only those who won't get them in trouble with copyright. So yes for Bach and Frank Sinatra, no for Beyonce.
The dilemma here is again, how proud can you be of something like that, because apart from the prompt and then the selection of sample parts, your own creative effort is extremely small or at least not very high. The same thing with generated images, somehow you have the feeling that you did it yourself, but if you're honest you pretty much didn't do anything yourself. I wouldn't be able to actually do something like that on my own..so there's that. if you get some kind of satisfaction or self worth out of being creative then all of this ai stuff deprives you of that, at least that's how I feel...
Totally agree with you. We're gonna live in a world where no one will have a job and everything will be artificial and devoid of meaning. Sometimes I wish the internet had never been invented.
@claudiusbuser I’m a visual artist and using Ai as a tool, and as long as I still spend a few days tweaking and redesigning and interacting with the image in procreate, I still feel satisfaction. In that way I’m starting to feel positive about Ai art gen tools. I totally get you on the feeling of satisfaction creation brings, but prompting isn’t very satisfying nor the outputs, just as they are.
It highlights the difference between Art and Craft. I'm good at coming up with melodies, for instance, but still trying to learn how to put music together (further handicapped by not knowing music theory or playing an instrument) - what I could actually do with is a generative AI system that takes a melody and turns it into various completed forms. My own work is Art (in my opinion anyway, otherwise I wouldn't be doing it) but not so great on Craft. I find generative AI to be the other way around: accomplished in production values do "uninspired" melodically. It comes across as the work of a gifted and competent (human) composer who unfortunately never wrote anything with a memorable tune (there are a lot of these!). Having said that, Udio does occasionally come up with a good memory but we have to select it (training the system in the process) and it doesn't seem to know how to develop it (though that could change). The other issue I've found is that you have to retrospectively interpret the genre. For instance, I got some that sounds like a Czech violin piece by Dvorak - but when I asked it to write a Czech violin piece by Dvorak it came out with something else.
I mean I don't feel proud when I listen to the latest platinum-level pop songs, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy listening to them... I do enjoy creating. I write so much just for the sake of coming up with new ideas and worlds that allow me to express myself in ways I can't do using other people's ideas, but I don't see other people creating as a threat to my enjoyment for writing. If everyone in the world suddenly wanted to write just as much as I did, flooding the market with every possible idea or combination of ideas imaginable, then my reach as a writer would suffer, but why should my passion be stopped? It's the same with AI, yeah it opens the door to more creations in all forms of quality, but it doesn't stop us from creating anyway. If someone enjoyed telling an AI to make something for them more than they would enjoy making it themself, then who is losing from that? I like writing, but I don't know how to cook, so is it really a dilemma when I "deprive myself" of the satisfaction by eating ready cooked meals? When AI first hit the scene I was very conflicted. I wanted empathise with other creatives who felt like it threatened their way of life, or even their way of expressing or supporting themselves, but I've honestly come to realise that AI is a tool that gives us more control over what we can get out of this world. And when something promises to show us the world and all we see is garbage, we tend to feel anger, hate, and fear for that very thing that tried to show us the world. But the truth is that AI isn't the reason for that ugly side of humanity, its simply a magnifying glass over the broken systems that we are already victims to. We shouldn't be slaves to our work, we should be free to enjoy it. We shouldn't feel the need to rely on our art to keep us fed, because with or without AI we still deserve our basic right to life, and as long as we have that it doesn't matter what people can generate without effort as long as we can create for ourselves anyway, which we always will be able to do.
you can ad ad libs to your song by putting text between hooks (text ad lib) and put his behind a line of text in your song also you can put a command between brackets tot put drum of guittar solo to interupt the song text [ guitar solo] text or a instrumental break [interlude] or [instrumental] try for yourself
Can you reformat your "tip"? It makes little sense. "put his behind a line of text in your song also you can put a command between brackets tot put drum"??
you shouldn't. i believe ai is just gonna create a higher standard for creative jobs and everyones overreacting. all this music sounds good to the ears, but it's "basic" if you know what i mean. it just takes music that sounds way too similar and combines it into something that sounds good, but isn't unique.
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it ignores the lyrics you tell it. I'm not sure why you have to Extend, extend, extend, extend... just to get a usable song. They need a button that says "Go as far as you need to go to complete a full song." The boon for me is, I no longer have to make aerobatic dance videos to copyrighted music and have every single one of them shlt on by YT.
You’re requesting a single button to make a whole song, whereas every serious creative type is begging for shorter generations and finer control of the output. I would rather extend a track 100 times in order to get the song I want, than generate 100 full songs hoping one of them is exactly right.
@@imptea The problem with repeating extensions is between extensions sometimes it doesn't clip the ending off the last rendition... okay, maybe it never does... so you got the song ending... then a pause, and a whole new verse starting. Sometimes a dramatic pause and restart works out there, sometimes it doesn't.
@@imptea In this song, I lucked out and made like 5 extensions work: ruclips.net/video/u6is_XCnz6s/видео.html In this one, not so much so. You hear the song ends, then the next extensions were nothing but talk without guitar: ruclips.net/video/Pt1dmzsO3YM/видео.html
@@choppergirl I’m not sure what you’re doing differently than me; I never struggle to extend a song when I want to. You realize that now you can choose to trim parts off the beginning / end of your audio to help make extensions easier? Sometimes I’ll have a generation that ends as if the whole song is ending, so I just chop that part off and keep going.
@@imptea How do you chop off the end of a song in Udio. I can do this externally, sure, but no idea how to do it in Udio. I don't even know how to tell it the chorus from a verse. I just wing it a chunk of text at a time, and hope I didn't paste too much that it don't clip the ending off. Which sometimes it does, have you noticed that... loses the last word? In fact, how do you reuse settings and a singer for all future songs. Is there some way to save a reference or seed value or something? They really need to allow you to paste the entire lyrics of your hand written song, with designations in brackets of what part of the song is what.
This is amazing already and it's only in Beta. Imagine this a year from now. We finally have some top competition in the AI Music space; that could speed up enhancements.
Superb. I actually like the songs generated like the vocaloid one (with the cat dancing, it is even better). I am wondering is this will help composers with little budget and small studios to generate beautiful and creative songs and can it produce a file that you can edit with music software like Ableton? Anyway, Thank you very much for this instructive yet funny video ^_^
Awesome video. Im curious if you know of any Music AI that will allow you to input midi data, or even sheet music, and have it play it back on a given instrument or instruments?
UDIO is very good with vocal generation. And since tracks of 33 seconds are generated at a time, over the course of a long composition the melody changes a little all the time, which gives the impression that the vocalist is constantly improvising. This sounds very interesting and lively. Here is an examples of the compositions that I generated using my own lyrics: This is a ballad in the style of the band Skunk Anansie ruclips.net/video/To_ZpgnUaME/видео.html And this is track in a style of Alanis Morissette ruclips.net/video/_hZS6l2y39w/видео.html UDIO even could create somewhat decent progressive rock (!) ruclips.net/video/NuCkiDaUykE/видео.html
nice! I've also found that udio vocals sound better than suno. however, as you pointed out, its hard to keep the same melody as i keep extending the track
Just tried it... Yes much better sound... But not as lyrical and musical al suno... I thought suno was a bit bland at first too, but experimenting with prompts really works wonders sometimes in. Even jazz and classical. Ill keep an eye out on this one though. Thanks for the tip!
Holy moly, this is already better than SUNO with voices - it sounds more authentic and really hits an emotional nerve with the generated songs. It must be a very frustrating time now for musicians. Quiet Nights by lawrence is the most impressive creation ... bringing back Chat Baker 🙂 The ballad Hymn of the Loving Spartan Capybaras by kiwibirdy is also very impressive. The race between the AI music services will become very interesting.
It highlights the difference between Art and Craft. I'm good at coming up with melodies, for instance, but still trying to learn how to put music together (further handicapped by not knowing music theory or playing an instrument) - what I could actually do with is a generative AI system that takes a melody and turns it into various completed forms. My own work is Art (in my opinion anyway, otherwise I wouldn't be doing it) but not so great on Craft. I find generative AI to be the other way around: accomplished in production values do "uninspired" melodically. It comes across as the work of a gifted and competent (human) composer who unfortunately never wrote anything with a memorable tune (there are a lot of these!). Having said that, Udio does occasionally come up with a good memory but we have to select it (training the system in the process) and it doesn't seem to know how to develop it (though that could change). The other issue I've found is that you have to retrospectively interpret the genre. For instance, I got some that sounds like a Czech violin piece by Dvorak - but when I asked it to write a Czech violin piece by Dvorak it came out with something else.
It's impressive with a couple of clicks everybody can generate a song. I have a lot of questions now. Is this the end of songwriting? Will automatically generated songs replace human made songs? Will this discourage people to put effort into music in future?
I'm having the most fun generating traditionally instrumental rock styles, mostly surf. It's quite the battle between Udio and Suno, because the results for the same prompts are very far apart, and both are great.
AI works just like real musicians meaning the better you write the song the better it can play and sing to it. A hit song don't care who writes it or who sings it.
this is a nightmare unfolding. Soundwriting and creatives in general are in real trouble. I'm seriously worried. I mean the music market was bad enough a few years ago from the streaming platforms payouts..this crosses all the lines.
Hey, I'm looking for a way to change lyrics on a song and keep the same singer, you seem to be very knowledgeable, could you name me a few leads/tools I could use?
"Ai is great, it helps me" Moments later - the person is directly effected by this "Ai" "No... No... It's bad cuz it took me job... Boohoo" When I kept telling people that this is bad they said I'm full of shit and a gatekeeper. Idiots.
I personally still like Suno more. Let's see where this goes because it's still in beta. I'm just kinda lazy to crop out my lyrics to fit 30 secs lol so I'll be sticking to Suno for now until Udio starts supporting longer generations. Suno's current limit is 2 mins so I rarely need to crop my lyrics because most of my lyrics aren't that long. I can definitely see the quality tho Udio definitely sounded better I'd say but Suno does good enough for me rn and again I'm too lazy to crop my lyrics. Ah it reminds me of the old times when Suno had a 30 secs limit man it was painful to create a full song properly.
Udio feels to me like when the Iphone first came out...like "magic". I think it helps to be a pro musician to really get the full benefit of the software (in terms of taking some of these generated ideas from "sketch" to "actually decent-to-excellent" work of art), but the implications of this software are astonishing. It's an 'idea supercharger' that COULD ironically lead to a resurgence of decent music.....or further flood the market with audio crap. Your call fellow 'cheaters' ;) By the way, People who make "beats"? You are screwed. Decent songwriters? This thing is addicting. I stayed up till 2 am generating custom sketches last night. Some laughable. Some amazing. It goes places I wouldn't ordinarily go but probably needed to, like a good writing partner.
that' mu'a dib track was hilarious and very interesting surely the prompt is important in making a track like that. one wonders what kind of self-prompts AI will create that are more interesting than human prompts...
Artists and musicians who create music will still be making their own songs, I play with this AI for fun, but I still make my own songs though, and I can't record my songs using AI
I’m only a couple minutes in and scrambling to find the rest of the “Carolina five foot five song”. Ok, I’ll watch the rest of the vid to see if it exists somewhere.
I’ve been using Suno for months- I genuinely can’t understand how people don’t see how much better Udio is on so many levels. Suno has some great features no doubt, and the length and speed of generations are far superior. But when you’re talking about ‘quality,’ I’m mesmerized by so much of what I’m hearing from Udio. Can’t imagine where this will be in 6 months!
OH MY GOD THIS IS INSANE THE MEME POTENTIAL IS INCREDIBLE WE FINALLY MADE IT ON ALL FRONTS THERE IS NO WAY IT CAN EVEN GET BETTER THAN THIS WTFFFFFFF THIS TIMELINE IS WILD
i'm cool with computers exhibiting artistry. i'm a classically/jazz/metal trained musician and dance/EDM/pop music producer, myself. i already use AI tools and love doing the collab. AI still hasn't shown me any cool chord progressions as cool as the ones I invent, nor play lead guitar anywhere as scary as I can. yet...
I'm trying to create a cover of Peter Gabriel's Red Rain. So far I can generate a song with Peter's voice but when I enter the lyrics the tool blocks me.
I have tried it for a while but don't get nearly as good of songs as I do with Suno. The vocals tend to overpower the music and I have not yet one time got a voice that I like the sound of on Udio.
Exactly, basically they have stolen copyrighted music and now all composers/musicians are finished. We will also never again see any innovation, just regurgitated AI music based on previous work by humans.
@@FuerteventuraGuideI disagree, we will only see innovative music or AI music, I'm all for AI to kick dumb music that is pushed and made popular by the big music corp.
Which language model does services like Suno or Udio use to generate the lyrics? Because I find the lyrics at least as impressive as the music. partly completely original and it really rhymes and not just in a bumpy way... the songwriters have to be very afraid also...
I agree most of the time the clips are without a soul but when you generate enough clips and find a good base and then start extending that clip and doing some cutting/inpainting you can create masterpieces with it, it's just not a 1 click song like suno.
Imagine where music AI will be in 6 months from release of this video, let alone in 2 years. In 5 years, AI will write AI tools to make funny cat videos.
Hello good sir, could I use the lyrics you generated in "an AI girl who broke my heart"? It was very nice. Great video by the way, always very informative, can't wait for more developments in AI
Lol.... the sound quality of udio is amazing, but ai generated lyrics are so bad.... any style of music you will get the word neon lights and echoes.... even after only a few weeks working with those tools.. i cant stand those generated lyrics anymore lol... i go for intrumental... Even freaking chat gpt always include neon and echoes.... make me a medieval song about a warrior fighting a dragon... In the neon lights of the dragon cavern,, im hearing the echoes of the dragon.....lol
This is wild. What a time to be alive
2030: I'm a singer covering AI songs
This literally happended when one of my songs on TikTok blew up. It was the weirdest thing watching people cover AI lol.
already happened lol
That's 2024 bro lolz, fun times we livin
Do it now quick, profit! Everyone will wonder how you came up with hit after hit!
Lmao right
I’ve been using this for about a week now and made a few amazing songs. It’s just so mind blowing to me. I feel like a wizard showing people what it can do.
nice!
lol. Just remember. You aren’t the wizard in this process. It is
Awesome
"made"
@@TheChadavis33He's the wizard, AI is the magic ;)
Made and posted two songs both with Suno and Udio and I can’t say I like one better than the other. One thing to note is that it’s pretty hard, or impossible, to get consistency with Udio when it comes to 2 or 3 minutes song, whereas Suno will keep the same melodies, verses and/or chorus, throughout the whole song. But Udio’s voices are really impressive. And it’s only a beta. Can’t wait for what comes next.
This is exactly what I have been saying
Thanks for the info! I'm late to the party, so everyone's info brings me up to speed
I agree I'm excited to see where it goes but for now I'm staying with Suno for most of my fun projects
Totally true.
Im a singer songwriter multi instrumentalist and this depressing cause its so good
If your skilled you can see the imperfections and sound distortions Ai is far from good, it's passable to newbs.
@TheMasterOfShadows well I'm far from a newb thanks. I'm 50 and have been playing and writing in 15 bands since age 16 but this is the first iteration and if you had any foresight you would see it's only gonna get better
@@darrendaj Well people who know music know at this point AI is still a baby and being worked on, only people who don't know music think it has already replaced them. If you know you know, if you don't then you take offence.
Agreed, as someone who has been making music since I was 12 years old (i'm 26 now), this is really sad and depressing....
@@AstroQuestMusic dude, I check out a lot of ai music, I would not call a majority of it good. Some good, a lot ok, majority is just messing having fun goofing off. In your hands being as you know music theory you should be cracking out good songs left and right. My opinion, is AI can inspire you to create works of art, AI at this point wont make it on it's own.
This is AMAZING! I learned about Udio a few days ago from another RUclips channel, and I immediately signed up on their website. I like Suno, but I will definitely continue to create songs via Udio. Thank you for the overview! :)
my pleasure!
"create"
Suno (for free) gives slightly longer songs than Udio. I think?
@@TheFunkyJawa yes suno has longer generations
@@theAIsearch ??? I made 10 minutes songs that I could still extend with udio back when they gave us basically unlimited credit during the beta. Is suno not limited to 4 minutes anymore?
its so amazing and terrifying
You'll own nothing and you will be happy
But the license says that you own what you've generated ;)
communism
What like Abba Voyage?
I don't own the library or the park or forest trails or the beach. If I'm happy, what do I care if I own it?
@@mi5iu491 imagine knowing wtf you talk about
For all those musicians worried remember it cant do this live on stage!
Yet!
Ever heard of holograms?
give it about a year
most of the today's 'Artists" are a simple FAKE Autotuned so...
@After_Burnett Actually a lot of them can...
Found Udio about 3 days ago and I'm having a blast with creating full songs with it _ There are some limitations but the possibilities are suitable in it's beta state _ Things are getting nuts in AI music, Amazing!
indeed! plus its only in beta so it'll get even better with time
Udio's AI makes the best of masterpieces. Its so much fun and inspires so much creativity. We are here at last. It does suck at the moment that you have to merge a few pieces together into one and it can be a bit hard to do it with the AI, but iv been able to make full songs with it, perfect transitions, context, consistency, etc. and it is insane.
What tool do you use to merge pieces ?
Thank you. That's very helpful. Love the jazz pieces by the way.
Since Udio released, it feels like Suno has been suddenly improving in several aspects: generation speed, prompt coherence (somewhat), number of generations allowed , all images now way better...
Seems like they definitively are pressured by Udio. Let's hope the competition keeps going.
i love the competition!
This is more than incredible! Awww!
Ngl this looks way too similar to Suno lmao. I was looking for something with that doesn´t have limit. Thank you for showing us!!
The most annoying thing about Suno is that it has a limit of how many characters you can use in the lyrics and genre tag which makes it very difficult to make something really specific. I already love that about Udio. It´s just fun making some cool sht in my free time.
Guys, I'm noticing a volume variation between sections. Most noticable when your song ir over 2:30 minutes
yes but sometime it's a positive trait when it goes harder
Despite having way worse "irl" voices compared to udio, sunio actually emulates Hatsune Miku's voice WAY better than udio does. Probably a training data difference.
So, that's actually a point for suno.
I was very disappointed when I put in "vocaloid, Hatsune Miku" in the prompt and it just returns a human voice layered with synthesizers and autotunes. Nevertheless, Udio is pretty cool
1 point for suno sure, but like 1,000,000 points for Udio on everything else
Yea okay 😅 @@taicunmusic
As a musician who has been hindered by the constraints of work and family responsibilities, I see this as a godsend. I still write lyrics and have song ideas but never have the time to arrange and record. This allows me some semblance of creative expression.
Your songs made with AI are going to be totally worthless. Nobody will care if song includes your own lyrics or ideas. Actually they just slow you down, nothing else. After you have finished one song made with AI with your own lyrics, meanwhile neighbour kiddo made 100 just as good songs with AI.
This is unfortunately the truth.
@@tomhe286 LOL musicians make music that they like FOR THEMSELVES as an expression of creativity. They don’t do it for other people. I’m enjoying Suno and don’t care if others like what I make on it or not.
@@CreAiteMusic
Even you dont believe that. Or why should they share their music, do live shows and so on? No, its not about musicians themelves, it is about music, sharing, having fun together and even impressing others
@@tomhe286 nobody becomes a musician so they become rich or famous... it's a by-product of doing what they love. Do you think the Beatles asked their audience what type of song to make next? Or what album theme to do? Granted as they got more famous, producers and so forth advised them - but ultimately they did what they wanted. No need to be so bleak, my friend. Use the tools you have around you to make what you like - whether it's a beat up guitar with a single string like Brushy One String or a full, slick multi-million production suite. Peace!
That's maybe the last time I can distinguish music by AI from actual music.
Super cool, I'm having a ton of fun with Udio making jazzy tunes for my channel!
Lol. This is like the 7th video about this. Udio has some interesting features but the songs are not even 1/10 the quality of what you can do on Suno. These RIP Suno clickbate-titles is laughable.
I like both. In my opinion Udio does have better quality, but it's definitely not a Suno killer. There is still a use for both.
to each their own. both have pros/cons, but i think udio has cleaner audio and better vocals
@@theAIsearch, just comparing the two, you're right, Udio (in my opinion) does have better vocals and cleaner/clearer audio than Suno...
I was hesitant to create too many songs with Udio until I saw this video regarding the Terms of Service! Thank you for this informative video! :)
These clickbait titles still generate the views
How about the clickbait’s ; the end of music is here , the end of producers is here, the end of life is here , etc lol lol
*Suno has been blowing up big time recently the severs are loaded that wait time has been increased in some cases for me*
good to know. thanks for sharing!
Can confirm, yesterday there was a banner that create function was disabled for free users.
remember the days when it was just a competition between humans and other humans. that was a good time
Yeah, was
Astounding.
That Carolina O, song is just so beautiful. It's weird that it tugs at my heart strings
Yes, I've been looping that!
Now try to finish Carolina-O because it ends abruptly at 1:38. It's the only thing I can stand on Udio and yes, it's beautiful but I've been trying for a few weeks to finish it and it's impossible in Udio's current state. Udio can't remember how it sang the first chorus to save it's life. We're talking basic song writing, basic hooks.
Just a little update, UDIO can now do 2.10 songs instead of 32 seconds. I do have a sub to it so not sure if it's on the free version but I did actually ask if they were going to this and a week later it appeared.
You can only extend 10 times, and there are some additional features now like the ability to select where the extension starts Time-wise
thanks for sharing!
why are these such bangers
I use them all, but this one has a lot of promise but is way too flawed and inaccurate in it's current release.
i'd like to see more customizability for both udio & suno, such as setting the bpm and chords
@@theAIsearch I'd love for Suno to allow you to always use a certain voice once you find one you like.
Both have pros and cons but this one being free is a nice bonus.
If I click on "extend" the next part it generates is too different from the first imo
Is there some trick to make it sound like one song instead of multiple different parts? Or to repeat section like chorus and have identical (other than lyrics) verse parts, etc.?
2 questions about this site
- Firstly; In these promps, which types of things can or can you not say? Could you tell it to use certain chords for example and be endlessly specific about any other thing that you can think of?
- Secondly, can you also ask it to make a song in the style of an artist, mention an artist etc?
As of now, no, and no.
Certain chords yes but don't expect extreme consistency. Same for basically every other technical detail about music. Most of all, don't ask for too many things altogether. The technology isn't quite there yet.
Artists yes but only those who won't get them in trouble with copyright. So yes for Bach and Frank Sinatra, no for Beyonce.
I tried Taylor Swift prompt and it give me warning and auto change the prompt.
The dilemma here is again, how proud can you be of something like that, because apart from the prompt and then the selection of sample parts, your own creative effort is extremely small or at least not very high. The same thing with generated images, somehow you have the feeling that you did it yourself, but if you're honest you pretty much didn't do anything yourself. I wouldn't be able to actually do something like that on my own..so there's that. if you get some kind of satisfaction or self worth out of being creative then all of this ai stuff deprives you of that, at least that's how I feel...
Who cares about how much effort you put into it when you make songs that you or others like?
Totally agree with you. We're gonna live in a world where no one will have a job and everything will be artificial and devoid of meaning. Sometimes I wish the internet had never been invented.
@claudiusbuser I’m a visual artist and using Ai as a tool, and as long as I still spend a few days tweaking and redesigning and interacting with the image in procreate, I still feel satisfaction. In that way I’m starting to feel positive about Ai art gen tools. I totally get you on the feeling of satisfaction creation brings, but prompting isn’t very satisfying nor the outputs, just as they are.
It highlights the difference between Art and Craft. I'm good at coming up with melodies, for instance, but still trying to learn how to put music together (further handicapped by not knowing music theory or playing an instrument) - what I could actually do with is a generative AI system that takes a melody and turns it into various completed forms. My own work is Art (in my opinion anyway, otherwise I wouldn't be doing it) but not so great on Craft. I find generative AI to be the other way around: accomplished in production values do "uninspired" melodically. It comes across as the work of a gifted and competent (human) composer who unfortunately never wrote anything with a memorable tune (there are a lot of these!). Having said that, Udio does occasionally come up with a good memory but we have to select it (training the system in the process) and it doesn't seem to know how to develop it (though that could change). The other issue I've found is that you have to retrospectively interpret the genre. For instance, I got some that sounds like a Czech violin piece by Dvorak - but when I asked it to write a Czech violin piece by Dvorak it came out with something else.
I mean I don't feel proud when I listen to the latest platinum-level pop songs, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy listening to them...
I do enjoy creating. I write so much just for the sake of coming up with new ideas and worlds that allow me to express myself in ways I can't do using other people's ideas, but I don't see other people creating as a threat to my enjoyment for writing. If everyone in the world suddenly wanted to write just as much as I did, flooding the market with every possible idea or combination of ideas imaginable, then my reach as a writer would suffer, but why should my passion be stopped? It's the same with AI, yeah it opens the door to more creations in all forms of quality, but it doesn't stop us from creating anyway.
If someone enjoyed telling an AI to make something for them more than they would enjoy making it themself, then who is losing from that? I like writing, but I don't know how to cook, so is it really a dilemma when I "deprive myself" of the satisfaction by eating ready cooked meals?
When AI first hit the scene I was very conflicted. I wanted empathise with other creatives who felt like it threatened their way of life, or even their way of expressing or supporting themselves, but I've honestly come to realise that AI is a tool that gives us more control over what we can get out of this world. And when something promises to show us the world and all we see is garbage, we tend to feel anger, hate, and fear for that very thing that tried to show us the world. But the truth is that AI isn't the reason for that ugly side of humanity, its simply a magnifying glass over the broken systems that we are already victims to. We shouldn't be slaves to our work, we should be free to enjoy it. We shouldn't feel the need to rely on our art to keep us fed, because with or without AI we still deserve our basic right to life, and as long as we have that it doesn't matter what people can generate without effort as long as we can create for ourselves anyway, which we always will be able to do.
you can ad ad libs to your song by putting text between hooks (text ad lib) and put his behind a line of text in your song also you can put a command between brackets tot put drum of guittar solo to interupt the song text [ guitar solo] text or a instrumental break [interlude] or [instrumental] try for yourself
awesome tip! thanks for sharing!
Can you reformat your "tip"? It makes little sense.
"put his behind a line of text in your song also you can put a command between brackets tot put drum"??
mind blowing how it improved over a year or so
Well... I give up music production.
Don’t give up. People will gravitate to actual human made music eventually.
I feel that, I got into it recently and now it feels pointless. I'm a video guy and that's also being impacted by AI so I'm getting hit twice.
@@Mopsie No they wont. This stuff will get more powerful.
@@markcooperartcomofficial okay Marc. Give up then. I won’t
you shouldn't. i believe ai is just gonna create a higher standard for creative jobs and everyones overreacting. all this music sounds good to the ears, but it's "basic" if you know what i mean. it just takes music that sounds way too similar and combines it into something that sounds good, but isn't unique.
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it ignores the lyrics you tell it.
I'm not sure why you have to Extend, extend, extend, extend... just to get a usable song.
They need a button that says "Go as far as you need to go to complete a full song."
The boon for me is, I no longer have to make aerobatic dance videos to copyrighted music and have every single one of them shlt on by YT.
You’re requesting a single button to make a whole song, whereas every serious creative type is begging for shorter generations and finer control of the output. I would rather extend a track 100 times in order to get the song I want, than generate 100 full songs hoping one of them is exactly right.
@@imptea The problem with repeating extensions is between extensions sometimes it doesn't clip the ending off the last rendition... okay, maybe it never does... so you got the song ending... then a pause, and a whole new verse starting.
Sometimes a dramatic pause and restart works out there, sometimes it doesn't.
@@imptea In this song, I lucked out and made like 5 extensions work: ruclips.net/video/u6is_XCnz6s/видео.html
In this one, not so much so. You hear the song ends, then the next extensions were nothing but talk without guitar: ruclips.net/video/Pt1dmzsO3YM/видео.html
@@choppergirl I’m not sure what you’re doing differently than me; I never struggle to extend a song when I want to. You realize that now you can choose to trim parts off the beginning / end of your audio to help make extensions easier? Sometimes I’ll have a generation that ends as if the whole song is ending, so I just chop that part off and keep going.
@@imptea How do you chop off the end of a song in Udio. I can do this externally, sure, but no idea how to do it in Udio.
I don't even know how to tell it the chorus from a verse. I just wing it a chunk of text at a time, and hope I didn't paste too much that it don't clip the ending off. Which sometimes it does, have you noticed that... loses the last word?
In fact, how do you reuse settings and a singer for all future songs. Is there some way to save a reference or seed value or something?
They really need to allow you to paste the entire lyrics of your hand written song, with designations in brackets of what part of the song is what.
I use #Sunoai by inputting values & conditions with my own lyrics in the engine & the tracks I made been pretty dope so far
This is amazing already and it's only in Beta. Imagine this a year from now. We finally have some top competition in the AI Music space; that could speed up enhancements.
6:12 "it can also do classical music, which doesn't follow these chord patterns of modern pop music"
**follows**
Superb. I actually like the songs generated like the vocaloid one (with the cat dancing, it is even better).
I am wondering is this will help composers with little budget and small studios to generate beautiful and creative songs and can it produce a file that you can edit with music software like Ableton?
Anyway, Thank you very much for this instructive yet funny video ^_^
What a time to be alive.
yes!
Awesome video. Im curious if you know of any Music AI that will allow you to input midi data, or even sheet music, and have it play it back on a given instrument or instruments?
you dont need AI for that though. you can just use VSTs (virtual instruments) with midi data
@@theAIsearch Suno V4 have this functionality but it not released yet
UDIO is very good with vocal generation. And since tracks of 33 seconds are generated at a time, over the course of a long composition the melody changes a little all the time, which gives the impression that the vocalist is constantly improvising. This sounds very interesting and lively. Here is an examples of the compositions that I generated using my own lyrics:
This is a ballad in the style of the band Skunk Anansie ruclips.net/video/To_ZpgnUaME/видео.html
And this is track in a style of Alanis Morissette ruclips.net/video/_hZS6l2y39w/видео.html
UDIO even could create somewhat decent progressive rock (!) ruclips.net/video/NuCkiDaUykE/видео.html
nice! I've also found that udio vocals sound better than suno. however, as you pointed out, its hard to keep the same melody as i keep extending the track
we're fucked
nah, human artists can always do collabs with ai artists. ai will only enhance us, not replace us. it's all about the collab
@@jimmythebold589well said man
Thats what's all the software programmers are saying. AI is taking everyone's job!!
Also, the website has become more dynamic, and accessibility for screen readers has become more difficult than it already was
Just tried it... Yes much better sound... But not as lyrical and musical al suno... I thought suno was a bit bland at first too, but experimenting with prompts really works wonders sometimes in. Even jazz and classical. Ill keep an eye out on this one though. Thanks for the tip!
Holy moly, this is already better than SUNO with voices - it sounds more authentic and really hits an emotional nerve with the generated songs. It must be a very frustrating time now for musicians. Quiet Nights by lawrence is the most impressive creation ... bringing back Chat Baker 🙂 The ballad Hymn of the Loving Spartan Capybaras by kiwibirdy is also very impressive. The race between the AI music services will become very interesting.
It highlights the difference between Art and Craft. I'm good at coming up with melodies, for instance, but still trying to learn how to put music together (further handicapped by not knowing music theory or playing an instrument) - what I could actually do with is a generative AI system that takes a melody and turns it into various completed forms. My own work is Art (in my opinion anyway, otherwise I wouldn't be doing it) but not so great on Craft. I find generative AI to be the other way around: accomplished in production values do "uninspired" melodically. It comes across as the work of a gifted and competent (human) composer who unfortunately never wrote anything with a memorable tune (there are a lot of these!). Having said that, Udio does occasionally come up with a good memory but we have to select it (training the system in the process) and it doesn't seem to know how to develop it (though that could change). The other issue I've found is that you have to retrospectively interpret the genre. For instance, I got some that sounds like a Czech violin piece by Dvorak - but when I asked it to write a Czech violin piece by Dvorak it came out with something else.
For the first song, make it six foot five and you’ve got a hit
It's impressive with a couple of clicks everybody can generate a song. I have a lot of questions now. Is this the end of songwriting? Will automatically generated songs replace human made songs? Will this discourage people to put effort into music in future?
I've tried making an orchestra music like in the movie soundtrack, TOO REALISTIC TO BE REAL!!! Even made a Star Wars vibes theme...
nice!
@@theAIsearch Yeah, it doesn't sound stiff like on Suno AI, it's more natural, and even mixed chords can be done by Udio AI!
I'm having the most fun generating traditionally instrumental rock styles, mostly surf. It's quite the battle between Udio and Suno, because the results for the same prompts are very far apart, and both are great.
AI works just like real musicians meaning the better you write the song the better it can play and sing to it. A hit song don't care who writes it or who sings it.
Omfg. I imagine how many misic stars willnuse this, then re-record the song with their voice and insturments
Is there something like Suno that adds bass or a wall of sound to my songs?
as a singer and songwriter, i see this as an absolute win for not having to learn/find an instrumentalist
this is a nightmare unfolding. Soundwriting and creatives in general are in real trouble. I'm seriously worried. I mean the music market was bad enough a few years ago from the streaming platforms payouts..this crosses all the lines.
4:12 woah! I wasn't expecting the cat dancing 😂.
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Hey, I'm looking for a way to change lyrics on a song and keep the same singer, you seem to be very knowledgeable, could you name me a few leads/tools I could use?
Stem Splitter
Great video… I have a track to a song I sing and would love to upload it to have a backing track that mimics the sound and temp… is it possible?
Yes, in Suno v4 but it will be released soon
@@lysywariatgra wow that be great!! The song I want to replicate is the 1969 elvis version of “I can’t stop loving you”
@@gobrad You can use original song, midi version or your sing. This record tempo and temperature and make own version.
"Ai is great, it helps me"
Moments later - the person is directly effected by this "Ai"
"No... No... It's bad cuz it took me job... Boohoo"
When I kept telling people that this is bad they said I'm full of shit and a gatekeeper.
Idiots.
some people just can't think one-two steps forward =)
You so awesome dude 🥺
can you import your vice model over there?
I personally still like Suno more. Let's see where this goes because it's still in beta. I'm just kinda lazy to crop out my lyrics to fit 30 secs lol so I'll be sticking to Suno for now until Udio starts supporting longer generations. Suno's current limit is 2 mins so I rarely need to crop my lyrics because most of my lyrics aren't that long. I can definitely see the quality tho Udio definitely sounded better I'd say but Suno does good enough for me rn and again I'm too lazy to crop my lyrics. Ah it reminds me of the old times when Suno had a 30 secs limit man it was painful to create a full song properly.
Udio feels to me like when the Iphone first came out...like "magic".
I think it helps to be a pro musician to really get the full benefit of the software (in terms of taking some of these generated ideas from "sketch" to "actually decent-to-excellent" work of art), but the implications of this software are astonishing. It's an 'idea supercharger' that COULD ironically lead to a resurgence of decent music.....or further flood the market with audio crap. Your call fellow 'cheaters' ;)
By the way, People who make "beats"? You are screwed.
Decent songwriters? This thing is addicting. I stayed up till 2 am generating custom sketches last night. Some laughable. Some amazing. It goes places I wouldn't ordinarily go but probably needed to, like a good writing partner.
that' mu'a dib track was hilarious and very interesting surely the prompt is important in making a track like that. one wonders what kind of self-prompts AI will create that are more interesting than human prompts...
Rip my music studio 😂 now I have a lot of equipment going to have to figure out something else to use it for 312 microphones
Artists and musicians who create music will still be making their own songs, I play with this AI for fun, but I still make my own songs though, and I can't record my songs using AI
@@taicunmusic I know I'll continue to make music it's just I now have a studio that will become less useful
Producers will carry their studio on stage for live shows... I hope
I’m only a couple minutes in and scrambling to find the rest of the “Carolina five foot five song”. Ok, I’ll watch the rest of the vid to see if it exists somewhere.
i was so addicted to that song!
I’ve been using Suno for months- I genuinely can’t understand how people don’t see how much better Udio is on so many levels. Suno has some great features no doubt, and the length and speed of generations are far superior. But when you’re talking about ‘quality,’ I’m mesmerized by so much of what I’m hearing from Udio. Can’t imagine where this will be in 6 months!
As soon as I saw a Broadway musical about Dune, I had to check this out
I just made a music video from a Udio track! IMO Suno makes good music, Udio makes hits!
I love making random meme songs with Suno.
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Same and hardstyle songs, like one I posted on my channel!
OH MY GOD THIS IS INSANE THE MEME POTENTIAL IS INCREDIBLE WE FINALLY MADE IT ON ALL FRONTS THERE IS NO WAY IT CAN EVEN GET BETTER THAN THIS WTFFFFFFF THIS TIMELINE IS WILD
And that's a wrap. Welcome to the new world. AI will own ALL of us very soon.
This Generation really is amazing with this AI
i'm cool with computers exhibiting artistry. i'm a classically/jazz/metal trained musician and dance/EDM/pop music producer, myself. i already use AI tools and love doing the collab. AI still hasn't shown me any cool chord progressions as cool as the ones I invent, nor play lead guitar anywhere as scary as I can. yet...
The competition is win/win for us!!!
yes!
Suno ver. 9 will generate music video with AI singer
I'm trying to create a cover of Peter Gabriel's Red Rain.
So far I can generate a song with Peter's voice but when I enter the lyrics the tool blocks me.
I have tried it for a while but don't get nearly as good of songs as I do with Suno. The vocals tend to overpower the music and I have not yet one time got a voice that I like the sound of on Udio.
Does this tool allow multiple time signatures? 4/4 is the apparent standard, but does it allow:
5/4, 7/8, 9/16, 11/16?
Imagine udio getting outcompeted by a new competitor next week
lol or tomorrow
i liked the disco jam about udio!! dope! and i grew up in the 70s disco era...
At the end of the day it's all just music. Basically these bots are trampling over copyright left right and center.
Exactly, basically they have stolen copyrighted music and now all composers/musicians are finished. We will also never again see any innovation, just regurgitated AI music based on previous work by humans.
@@FuerteventuraGuideI disagree, we will only see innovative music or AI music, I'm all for AI to kick dumb music that is pushed and made popular by the big music corp.
@@FuerteventuraGuideI disagree, I’m a session guitarist and I think this is brilliant,
@@hardlines2635 So, you don't enjoy being a session guitarist, or...?
Amazing! thanks!
Thanks & enjoy!
Which language model does services like Suno or Udio use to generate the lyrics? Because I find the lyrics at least as impressive as the music. partly completely original and it really rhymes and not just in a bumpy way... the songwriters have to be very afraid also...
So this is the paper that is 2 papers down the line!?
I do wish that changing words in the lyrics was easier without changing the song, style, and rhythm at all
yeah that would be a good function to have
Lets wait for suno v4
Udio shows up as an unsafe website though, so until they fix that Ill be sticking with Suno.
I tried it. Music without soul. Ok for commercials and shit like that.
I agree most of the time the clips are without a soul but when you generate enough clips and find a good base and then start extending that clip and doing some cutting/inpainting you can create masterpieces with it, it's just not a 1 click song like suno.
And I thought the AI prolefeed music from 1984 was an absurd idea...
Imagine where music AI will be in 6 months from release of this video, let alone in 2 years.
In 5 years, AI will write AI tools to make funny cat videos.
I wouldn’t be able to tell this was ai
cant make anything with udio. It just keeps hallucinating. Even if I give it a custom lyrics prompt It only uses like the first line of the lyrics
Hello good sir, could I use the lyrics you generated in "an AI girl who broke my heart"? It was very nice.
Great video by the way, always very informative, can't wait for more developments in AI
Thanks. Welcome to use the lyrics
I just deleted my song by mistake.
can I restore it back?
I searched through the website + their discord server but I got nothing...
it's gone but if you click deleted while the song was in pause, you still can download it if you are not sure of what you did
@@shinseiki2015
I just emailed them to restore it...
Hopefully they do ☹️
I feel so stupid 😪 🙃
Lol.... the sound quality of udio is amazing, but ai generated lyrics are so bad.... any style of music you will get the word neon lights and echoes.... even after only a few weeks working with those tools.. i cant stand those generated lyrics anymore lol... i go for intrumental... Even freaking chat gpt always include neon and echoes.... make me a medieval song about a warrior fighting a dragon...
In the neon lights of the dragon cavern,, im hearing the echoes of the dragon.....lol
*Well almost true I recently completed making a song that had Neon lights and it did fine but after 10 tries*
Well you can always try writing your own lyrics. That's what I do.