ive not had the chance to try both, but i got my RS19HT/RST (high torque) thinking about hill climbing ability. ive only had my euc for a month now, but if the speed can conquer hills, then i would love to have the addition topspeed. i got it solely for the sake of climbing a steep and spiraling hill that i climb everyday on my commute. so its not a hill that i can enter at a high speed and let a "lower torque" motor using momentum, get me up. of course i had no experience when i ordered the euc, and so i just went with the safer option with my dilemma.... ...so if the speed version can also conquer hills (what percentage/grade of hill could be included in the specs perhaps) without any momentum, or overheating of the electronics, purely on its own torque characteristics, then i would definitely opt for the speed as well. without question.
@@AfeezKayeRIDES even if its far less then that at the lower 20°s, i would opt for the speed then! i have what i have now, and i love it. but if a few mph/kmph is the only difference between the two (as far as i can tell from your experience and my own, then i shouldve gotten the speed haha. but no regrets! ride on brother! and thank you for making great content
I tried both wheels, Now i owned the HT version. Theres a significant power difference specially in acceleration, the HT has the quickness of a bullet compare to the HS
@electric_rider since you test both versions of the RS. Can you confirm what he was saying about how smoother the HS than HT in acceleration? Is there also more vibration in the pedals on the HT than HS?
@electric_rider since you test both versions of the RS. Can you confirm what he was saying about how smoother the HS than HT in acceleration? Is there also more vibration in the pedals on the HT than HS?
I believe there is more a difference when you require more from the EUCs. A straight line may not be enough to show the difference between torque and "top end". I chose the MSP over the MSX after considering the type of terrain I mostly cover, which is very hilly. The difference in battery consumption probably occurs when you try riding the Torque version at a cruise speed made more for the speed version. The trade offs are this: The speed version offers a faster cruise speed and of course, a faster overall speed. The torque version offers a feeling of power that gives confidence to the rider especially in hilly/off-road conditions.
torque motor just have more power, acordingly battery usage is bigger. As we know, power is used from motor as much as it requires only, but.. were not computers and cant maintain stable speed at all, so torque wheels have always bigger power spike usage, so battery is drawed faster
This video helped me finally make my decision on which one to get. To me the RS has more to offer simply. Thank you for making this ! If I get good and adventurous maybe I’ll ride more off-road but until then I believe the HS to be a better all rounder
When looking at EUC BROS channel, it seems that they experience overheating on the RS19 Speed on long climbing trails, where the Torque version has no problem at all.
magnifico video, seria genial ver las dos versiones en offroad y ver si realmente hay una diferencia a la hora de subir pendientes, escalar, accelerar y frenar y tambien saber cual de las dos consume mas en una situación de uso normal en ciudad, gracias!!
@@AfeezKayeRIDES did you ever do this test? I have my order in for the high torque (but can change to the HS before shipping if I want) as I plan on riding 60-70% off road/technical trails and hills (& I'm 6'3 tall and 200 pounds/just over 13 stones but still wonder if the high speed will be more than enough torque still for hill climbing and not have to sacrifice the higher top speed of the hs but don't want it overheating which I know the HS is more prone to than the HT and I'm in southern California so it can get hot out here, especially climbing steep off-road terrain.. can you feel the acceleration forces of the high torque are higher and more powerful feeling than the high speed even if the timings were similar? Wouldn't the acceleration of the high torque been greater if you had power pads on it too like you did on the high speed? Thanks for your reply!
The comparison was not correct, you didn't start when she said go exactly. and we wanna compare the torque not speed. so this video is totally useless. If you wanna compare the torque you gotta do climb comparison
@@bekirsivri80 agreed . I've ordered the high torque as I'm 200 pounds and ride mostly off road anyway and my dealer says the acceleration forces (as well as torque) is definitely greater with the high torque version
For any and all new riders, it all boils down to one simple equation. When you're trying to get somewhere, do you appreciate the journey, or the destination more? Answer that and you have the answer to the torque versus speed question.. 😁🌄
Thanks for the opportunity to compare these models, I wonder how much more efficient HT brakes in extreme mode and which version accelerates faster to 50 km/h
You got your VIDEO ALL WRONG. I don't believe you are a dirt trail rider also or else you would of known the sole purpose of each one. These are 2 different beast: RSS = lower hangers/pedals for stability at higher speeds on flat surfaces. RST = higher hangers/pedals for clearance at off road dirt trails/single track trails, dirt, mud, sand, rock crawling where you will be climbing steep hills or descending down treacherous terrain were you would need that extra clearance and instant torque and braking.
This is good feedback and thanks 🙏🏼 this is the kind of feedback and knowledge sharing I was hoping this video will attract. I think the main point is the speed version has torque too not that the torque version lacks torque
Take off one of the side panels, its like 13 screws. There u can look at the wheel hub , which is the motor. written on it you will see a c30 for speed version or a c38 for torque version.
Can I lower the maximum power and torque in the app ? I have purchased my first ever EUC on special offer it is Begode RS19 Torque version , I can say it is hard to learn on it :(
Hola Afeez, I’ve heard from a few riders that the RS19 HS has a balance issue. I’m told it’s a bit heavy on the right side of the wheel can you confirm or deny this rumor for me? And keep up the good work..
Compared to a car gears. The torque version is always in gear number 2. The speed version is always in 5th gear. Because of lesser magnets that translates into less resistance needed to turn the wheel. I have to he torque version but only because the MSP speed version didn't come out until later 😔🙏❤️ Great video 👍❤️
Are you glad you got the high torque version or you think you could have gotten the high speed and do everything you do with a higher top speed? I'm 6'3/200 pounds wanting to ride 60-70% off road and hills and this will be my first euc after riding onewheels for two and a half years.. Thanks
I just got the msp hs. There's lots of hills here so I was thinking I need the ht. The difference must not be that great because I float up hills and there's a few scary ones. I weight like 170.
on most wheels the actual difference in hill climb ability between HS/HT is not as great as stated. You normally see 10degree less listed for HS when it's actually maybe 5.
@@coolhawk2003 no, all 3rd generation RS models (HT or HS) all have higher pedal hangers than the earlier models and I'm getting the third generation RS-HT for mostly offroading, especially at my weight at around 13 stones/200 pounds and 6'3 tall- I think the test in this video is very unscientific and everyone I've asked (including several dealers) all confirmed that not only does the HT have greater torque and hill-climbing ability (I do a lot of hill climbs off road here) but it also definitely has greater acceleration forces than the HS too (due to the extra torque)- the advantage of the HS is literally only that it can go 5mph faster without cutout but I won't be going over 30mph (more likely less) riding off road anyway (as the surfaces are too bumpy/loose to go faster) and can still get it up to 40mph on higher battery/voltage levels on street if I wanted to, certainly downhill anyway when I want to- HT for the win!
@@justinspirational ok I think I am thinking of the msp with the pedals. Rs hs rated for 10 more mph probably get alittle more. But yes ht is most differently the off road wheel of the to. Also the hs has more range do to the less torque. He said it's smoother again cause of less low end torque. Was thinking at half speed or more the hs will have more top end torque. Very cool stuff. Thanks for the chat.
@@coolhawk2003 yes I think you're right that the HS will have a little more range depending on how you ride it. Don't know if the HS will have more high end torque though.. It's wound for speed, not torque.. Not sure what 'smoother' means experientially..? Coming from onewheels both HS and HT have so much more range than I'm used to as well as so much more torque, power and speed comparatively
Simpy HS magnet is 30mm HT38mm = This mean in same load HT motor transfer electricity to movement efectively HS transfer too but many electricity change to hot/motor temperature increase. Logicaly then HS have better range smaler magnets smaler rezistande. You weight nothing for people 260+lbs or 120 Kg is big difference HT vs HS thats true. 🐷🚩
I don't think this test is very good the distance is not enough. When in doubt always go for the high torque especially when the high speed and high torque models there's only a few miles per hour difference at top end. You always want the high torque for the rapid acceleration and the climbing power. Perhaps the first three seconds the torque isn't there because it has to get up to speed a bit?
So not much difference in tests, but the speed version "feels" more smooth? And you wonder why people keep asking the same question? 😂 How can 2 EUC with same power motor and exactly same battery have different torque or speed limit? Unless is a marketing gimmick and software limitation? #still_confused
Dude make a REAL acceleration test with 2 riders 3 times from standing and 3 times from same low speed with swaping wheel cuz this video is a joke for me and give me nothing exept canfused. Thanks!
Have you had the chance to try both variation of the Begode RS19 torque and speed? If so which do you prefer and why?
ive not had the chance to try both, but i got my RS19HT/RST (high torque) thinking about hill climbing ability. ive only had my euc for a month now, but if the speed can conquer hills, then i would love to have the addition topspeed. i got it solely for the sake of climbing a steep and spiraling hill that i climb everyday on my commute. so its not a hill that i can enter at a high speed and let a "lower torque" motor using momentum, get me up. of course i had no experience when i ordered the euc, and so i just went with the safer option with my dilemma....
...so if the speed version can also conquer hills (what percentage/grade of hill could be included in the specs perhaps) without any momentum, or overheating of the electronics, purely on its own torque characteristics, then i would definitely opt for the speed as well. without question.
@@RamSees13 I will hazard a guess the speed at its upper limits should be able to climb 35 degree hills.
@@AfeezKayeRIDES even if its far less then that at the lower 20°s, i would opt for the speed then! i have what i have now, and i love it. but if a few mph/kmph is the only difference between the two (as far as i can tell from your experience and my own, then i shouldve gotten the speed haha. but no regrets!
ride on brother! and thank you for making great content
@@RamSees13 thank you 😊
@@RamSees13 the high torque has been proven to climb 45° inclines though
I tried both wheels, Now i owned the HT version. Theres a significant power difference specially in acceleration, the HT has the quickness of a bullet compare to the HS
That’s the info I’m here for
Thanks
I’ll go with the HT as well :3
@electric_rider since you test both versions of the RS. Can you confirm what he was saying about how smoother the HS than HT in acceleration? Is there also more vibration in the pedals on the HT than HS?
@electric_rider since you test both versions of the RS. Can you confirm what he was saying about how smoother the HS than HT in acceleration? Is there also more vibration in the pedals on the HT than HS?
I believe there is more a difference when you require more from the EUCs. A straight line may not be enough to show the difference between torque and "top end".
I chose the MSP over the MSX after considering the type of terrain I mostly cover, which is very hilly.
The difference in battery consumption probably occurs when you try riding the Torque version at a cruise speed made more for the speed version. The trade offs are this: The speed version offers a faster cruise speed and of course, a faster overall speed. The torque version offers a feeling of power that gives confidence to the rider especially in hilly/off-road conditions.
torque motor just have more power, acordingly battery usage is bigger. As we know, power is used from motor as much as it requires only, but.. were not computers and cant maintain stable speed at all, so torque wheels have always bigger power spike usage, so battery is drawed faster
Great video Afeez ...nice work. 💪
This video helped me finally make my decision on which one to get. To me the RS has more to offer simply. Thank you for making this ! If I get good and adventurous maybe I’ll ride more off-road but until then I believe the HS to be a better all rounder
Great video! 🙂👍
When looking at EUC BROS channel, it seems that they experience overheating on the RS19 Speed on long climbing trails, where the Torque version has no problem at all.
Exactly, and the HT will overheat/cutout on prolonged high speed runs where the HS has no problems.
Thanks for the info bro. I need that speed version
I think
magnifico video, seria genial ver las dos versiones en offroad y ver si realmente hay una diferencia a la hora de subir pendientes, escalar, accelerar y frenar y tambien saber cual de las dos consume mas en una situación de uso normal en ciudad, gracias!!
You should do a hill climb check how much difference is the torque on both wheels 😀
I will soon 😁
@@AfeezKayeRIDES did you ever do this test? I have my order in for the high torque (but can change to the HS before shipping if I want) as I plan on riding 60-70% off road/technical trails and hills (& I'm 6'3 tall and 200 pounds/just over 13 stones but still wonder if the high speed will be more than enough torque still for hill climbing and not have to sacrifice the higher top speed of the hs but don't want it overheating which I know the HS is more prone to than the HT and I'm in southern California so it can get hot out here, especially climbing steep off-road terrain.. can you feel the acceleration forces of the high torque are higher and more powerful feeling than the high speed even if the timings were similar? Wouldn't the acceleration of the high torque been greater if you had power pads on it too like you did on the high speed? Thanks for your reply!
The comparison was not correct, you didn't start when she said go exactly. and we wanna compare the torque not speed. so this video is totally useless. If you wanna compare the torque you gotta do climb comparison
@@bekirsivri80 agreed . I've ordered the high torque as I'm 200 pounds and ride mostly off road anyway and my dealer says the acceleration forces (as well as torque) is definitely greater with the high torque version
@@justinspirational yeah if you are 200 and mostly off road, I would think you made the right call going for HT
Good video bro!
Great stuff bro
Thanks 😊
Great video
For any and all new riders, it all boils down to one simple equation. When you're trying to get somewhere, do you appreciate the journey, or the destination more? Answer that and you have the answer to the torque versus speed question.. 😁🌄
What would you say the battery difference is between HT and HS after riding them both how much battery are you left with in the HS ?
Good video. Torque version for me, as I ride hills a lot...
You are right! The speed version should be the more battery efficient one when compared on same rides.
Thanks for the opportunity to compare these models, I wonder how much more efficient HT brakes in extreme mode and which version accelerates faster to 50 km/h
Are these version 2 where they say the bearing issues are addressed?
Yes. Please go up hills of different gradients to truly test the torque.
Nice video brother
Can you do a Range test for both? i am not a speed rider and the torque seems more appealing, for quick acceleration and quick stopping.
Thanks
You got your VIDEO ALL WRONG. I don't believe you are a dirt trail rider also or else you would of known the sole purpose of each one.
These are 2 different beast:
RSS = lower hangers/pedals for stability at higher speeds on flat surfaces.
RST = higher hangers/pedals for clearance at off road dirt trails/single track trails, dirt, mud, sand, rock crawling where you will be climbing steep hills or descending down treacherous terrain were you would need that extra clearance and instant torque and braking.
This is good feedback and thanks 🙏🏼 this is the kind of feedback and knowledge sharing I was hoping this video will attract. I think the main point is the speed version has torque too not that the torque version lacks torque
Where do you get the side pads they look awesome 👍
Are those blinkers on the gloves? Any links would be super
I would like to see you take those same two units and test them on a incline or a hill and see what results you would get
Perhaps not a fair comparison since the HS has pads installed and the HT does not have them.
Would have been nice to see the ex.n with the same motor in this comparison
Okay we may do that later for you. Give us a few days 😁
I've just ordered the speed version and I think it was the right choice.
Interesting comparison Afeez! I have one question, what is the significance of the "19" in the name? Keep up the great work! 🙏
My guess is the measurement of the tire size
How can you know if its a torque version or speed version you received is there any writing on the wheel? Or anything like symbol?
Take off one of the side panels, its like 13 screws. There u can look at the wheel hub , which is the motor. written on it you will see a c30 for speed version or a c38 for torque version.
2 months old and still no hill climbing torque test.😔
Can I lower the maximum power and torque in the app ? I have purchased my first ever EUC on special offer it is Begode RS19 Torque version , I can say it is hard to learn on it :(
Did you ever figure out how to cycle through the ride modes on the app ?
Nice gloves👍
I'm 6'5 so I went with the HT because I'm a big kite and I've hit 35mph which is plenty fast for a first wheel.
Hola Afeez,
I’ve heard from a few riders that the RS19 HS has a balance issue. I’m told it’s a bit heavy on the right side of the wheel can you confirm or deny this rumor for me? And keep up the good work..
Compared to a car gears.
The torque version is always in gear number 2.
The speed version is always in 5th gear.
Because of lesser magnets that translates into less resistance needed to turn the wheel.
I have to he torque version but only because the MSP speed version didn't come out until later 😔🙏❤️
Great video 👍❤️
rather 2 and 3 gear :D
Are you glad you got the high torque version or you think you could have gotten the high speed and do everything you do with a higher top speed? I'm 6'3/200 pounds wanting to ride 60-70% off road and hills and this will be my first euc after riding onewheels for two and a half years.. Thanks
What gloves are those? They look sick
Torque is for hill climbing....where speean will fail.
"i weigh over a certain amount of stones" lel
I just got the msp hs. There's lots of hills here so I was thinking I need the ht. The difference must not be that great because I float up hills and there's a few scary ones. I weight like 170.
on most wheels the actual difference in hill climb ability between HS/HT is not as great as stated. You normally see 10degree less listed for HS when it's actually maybe 5.
@@greenwave819 loads of steep hills and I float up them no problem. She fast!
Omfg thank you brotha ❤️
Hahaha floats down them too 😉
I'm around 13 stones/200 pounds and prefer to ride off-road hills more than street.. You still think I should get the high speed over the high torque?
Get the torque sounds like that's the one you want. Don't need high speed off road. But the speed do have higher pedals I think.
@@coolhawk2003 no, all 3rd generation RS models (HT or HS) all have higher pedal hangers than the earlier models and I'm getting the third generation RS-HT for mostly offroading, especially at my weight at around 13 stones/200 pounds and 6'3 tall- I think the test in this video is very unscientific and everyone I've asked (including several dealers) all confirmed that not only does the HT have greater torque and hill-climbing ability (I do a lot of hill climbs off road here) but it also definitely has greater acceleration forces than the HS too (due to the extra torque)- the advantage of the HS is literally only that it can go 5mph faster without cutout but I won't be going over 30mph (more likely less) riding off road anyway (as the surfaces are too bumpy/loose to go faster) and can still get it up to 40mph on higher battery/voltage levels on street if I wanted to, certainly downhill anyway when I want to- HT for the win!
@@justinspirational ok I think I am thinking of the msp with the pedals. Rs hs rated for 10 more mph probably get alittle more. But yes ht is most differently the off road wheel of the to. Also the hs has more range do to the less torque. He said it's smoother again cause of less low end torque. Was thinking at half speed or more the hs will have more top end torque. Very cool stuff. Thanks for the chat.
@@coolhawk2003 yes I think you're right that the HS will have a little more range depending on how you ride it. Don't know if the HS will have more high end torque though.. It's wound for speed, not torque.. Not sure what 'smoother' means experientially..? Coming from onewheels both HS and HT have so much more range than I'm used to as well as so much more torque, power and speed comparatively
Simpy HS magnet is 30mm HT38mm = This mean in same load HT motor transfer electricity to movement efectively HS transfer too but many electricity change to hot/motor temperature increase.
Logicaly then HS have better range smaler magnets smaler rezistande. You weight nothing for people 260+lbs or 120 Kg is big difference HT vs HS thats true. 🐷🚩
Thank you 😊 well written 😁
i did not know about the magnet size difference. thanks for sharing!
do you know if the coil wire is also different gauge/thickness?
The torque is for climbing and not so much for flat straight line. You should have a test on hills or any climbing terrain!
My EX.N selected HS (C30)
I don't think this test is very good the distance is not enough. When in doubt always go for the high torque especially when the high speed and high torque models there's only a few miles per hour difference at top end. You always want the high torque for the rapid acceleration and the climbing power. Perhaps the first three seconds the torque isn't there because it has to get up to speed a bit?
Thanks for the feedback
Is fantastic wheel
So basically its just more, ummmmm smoother ummmmm.
Nice comparison , please reduce that watermark
Think the Rs speed mu next wheel coming to you soon hope you can do me a good deal lol
HT because I'm a hooligan off road
HT is for offroading
Scholarly review
Be aware of the overpowering begote. It can easily explode. Also there is few info about explode in a shipping container 😢
yes that was during the transport permanently on so a month or so
Sit your ass down on the HT to stop bro, be more aggressive (hard mode)
So not much difference in tests, but the speed version "feels" more smooth? And you wonder why people keep asking the same question? 😂 How can 2 EUC with same power motor and exactly same battery have different torque or speed limit? Unless is a marketing gimmick and software limitation? #still_confused
Dude make a REAL acceleration test with 2 riders 3 times from standing and 3 times from same low speed with swaping wheel cuz this video is a joke for me and give me nothing exept canfused. Thanks!