Toby Fox: A Chaotic, MetaNarrative Mastermind

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  • Опубликовано: 4 янв 2025

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  • @andrew_cunningham
    @andrew_cunningham Год назад +1648

    The most concise way I can describe this video is like seeing the jumble of ideas, images, phrases, memes, and chaotic post-chapter-2 brain noise that compelled me to make my first video essay plucked out of the past, thawed, and reassembled into the video I _wanted_ to make if I was as good of an editor as I imagined. Or, in fewer words: I am very, very insecure right now.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +378

      *quietly assembling response to The Dude Who Made Me Want To Make This Video while having a heart attack. Please stand by*

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +314

      I’ll be brief because I could scream forever that you found this, but:
      1: Thank you, I’m VERY glad you enjoyed it.
      2: I’m glad im not the only one seeing the brain noise angle. You have zeroed in on my soul and Shot It.
      3: While producing this, I felt the exact same insecurity when looking at your video essays, and even avoided watching some of them for fear of that. Namely, “who is Kris” and “every narrator line”. That I can now enjoy fully.
      4: I’d love to get a bit more in touch sometime and talk about our processes, and whatever back burner projects exist provided you have the time.

    • @yappingScramble
      @yappingScramble Год назад +14

      yeah but the part with reconciliation was neat

    • @inkblooded1058
      @inkblooded1058 Год назад +69

      @@TheLudomancer These replies were almost painfully wholesome. I'm going to watch Andrew's videos now, because how can I not?

    • @mr.j3rs3y
      @mr.j3rs3y Год назад +26

      @@inkblooded1058 Agreed. It’s nice to see people with mutual appreciation for eachothers work!

  • @tymaddux2644
    @tymaddux2644 Год назад +1255

    It’s crazy how Toby Fox has easily has some of the greatest writing improvement in all of history.
    He went from: tldr; eat shit f******
    To: “I only play mobile games.”
    Truly one of the improvements of all time

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +280

      I've never seen anyone so viciously shut down another character in so few words.

    • @FE_Studios
      @FE_Studios Год назад +41

      smh you forgot a star

    • @TheCubifyer
      @TheCubifyer Год назад +72

      ​@@FE_StudiosThat pisses me of.
      I'm the original starwalker

    • @godslaughter
      @godslaughter Год назад +119

      As a gay person, when I read about that Earthbound hack, I couldn't stop crying out of laughing. I'm sorry, but "tl;dr, eat shit fa***ts" is one of the funniest things I have ever heard and I will not only let it slide, I will cherish it. What matters is who Toby is and, from what we've seen, his actions are much more powerful than that one line from a silly Earthbound hack will ever be. I'm not one to stan someone I don't know, but Toby is definitely the closest to it

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +58

      @@godslaughter even if it weren’t a product of ironic forum culture from the early 2010s, he’s disavowed it regardless.

  • @leightonpetty4817
    @leightonpetty4817 Год назад +327

    Playing Deltarune for the first time, on Halloween of 2018, may have been the most gratifying experience ever. Because it confirmed that no, my love for Undertale wasn’t nostalgia for formative years where I had lower standards, and the game wasn’t a fluke lightning-in-a-bottle enigma created by accident that could only happen once.
    Toby Fox was just really, _really_ good at what he does.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +56

      He has a lot of lightning and a lot of bottles

  • @Sentrah1
    @Sentrah1 11 месяцев назад +25

    The third person point made so much sense, imagine if toby added a section where you fully take control of kris and the battles change to first person.

  • @shadowofroserade
    @shadowofroserade Год назад +501

    This video was the equivalent of 13 tonnes of pure unadulterated cane sugar being injected into my veins and I absolutely adored every single fraction of a second of it and I NEED TO SEE THAT KRIS ESSAY from you YESTERDAY.
    CAPICHE!?!?!?

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +78

      Don’t worry. It’s already bloated to being about the entire Dark World and Ralsei as well.

    • @dragonslayergu1161
      @dragonslayergu1161 Год назад +6

      @@TheLudomancer Yes...hahaha! YES!!

  • @menderbug703
    @menderbug703 Год назад +141

    “This game is a nonzero percentage of why I pass as a functional human”
    It seems we’re on the same wavelength in the worst and best way possible.
    Instant sub

  • @thespeedyyoshi
    @thespeedyyoshi Год назад +394

    What the heck the editing of this video is already masterpiece level excuse me?????

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +49

      Hey, if ya share it around more people will notice.
      Got a favourite bit???

    • @thespeedyyoshi
      @thespeedyyoshi Год назад +9

      @@TheLudomanceroh wow,
      15:06 is very relevant right now 😂😂

    • @thespeedyyoshi
      @thespeedyyoshi Год назад +13

      @@TheLudomanceryeah uhh DID YOU EDIT AN ENTIRE DELTARUNE ANIME OPENING FOR THIS ONE VIDEO HOLY CRAP

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +10

      Two of them.

    • @UntalentedBrick
      @UntalentedBrick Год назад +10

      RUclipsrs under 20k subscribers creating the most beautifully edited video ive ever laid my eyes upon:

  • @jaydinotjd
    @jaydinotjd Год назад +258

    This is so fucking cool
    The editing, the jokes, the analysis
    dissecting Toby’s unending drive to absolutely shatter everyone’s expectations ten times over and slap us with some more fresh and funky content is great
    Toby is truly a talent and a wonder and boy does it scare me because he likes to give people some existential nightmares and we all eat that shit up

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +13

      Figured that pfp’d be talking about cheese, but whatever. (But seriously, thanks!!)

  • @kadenculp4221
    @kadenculp4221 Год назад +204

    This is like the psychotic editing of a Ssethtzentach video combined with the actual literary analysis of Tim Rogers (instead of most people who just vaguely speculate on object level details and totally miss the point). Your Pokémon video was great but this was insane. Congrats on creating something so compelling, and I hope you continue to share your creations going forward.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +23

      Well damn! That’s just about Everything I could hope to hear!
      Thank you so much!

    • @thehuman2cs715
      @thehuman2cs715 Год назад +3

      Who are these other people who only gesture at surface level details? I know the question sounds accusatory but I'm just curious about who you're talking about exactly

  • @someGuy-kl7cb
    @someGuy-kl7cb Год назад +50

    i think if you weren't up to date with toby himself you would THINK deltarune came out of nowhere, but he's actually hinted there was another game he wanted to make, and made undertale as a "proof of concept" that he could make games.
    we knew it wouldn't be a sequel, because deltarune was the original concept he wanted to make but was reluctant to create it.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +9

      Yeah, I was mostly going over the bare minimum needed to know the narrative and experience of DELTARUNE as it happened.

    • @PhysicsGamer
      @PhysicsGamer 10 месяцев назад +5

      We've got one piece of direct evidence of that, actually: the Wayback Machine captured a snapshot of the Deltarune site before Undertale was even released.

  • @jayhimek3
    @jayhimek3 Год назад +54

    This video is THE visual representation of what my little adhd brain went through when processing any piece of Toby Fox's work upon first contact with it. Instant sub. I'm on my 23rd rewatch. I'm so filled with determination I could fight God right now. Amazing work. Thank you so much for this.

  • @benlucier8574
    @benlucier8574 Год назад +204

    I haven’t played undertale and I thought that would be ok. But- 3 mins into watching this glorious masterpiece and I had to stop the video so I can go play without the spoilers. BRB!

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +79

      HEY. KEEP ME POSTED BRO! THIS IS LITERALLY THE BEST THING THIS VIDEO COULD'VE ACCOMPLISHED!

    • @jeremiahowens9999
      @jeremiahowens9999 Год назад +8

      Status report

    • @pixelcat29
      @pixelcat29 Год назад +3

      Me leave reply here so me can get updated

    • @mastermudkip4629
      @mastermudkip4629 Год назад +2

      I want to be updated on this, so here’s a reply

    • @Much_Ado
      @Much_Ado Год назад +1

      me also leave reply in hopes of vicarious re-experiencing

  • @jesterphobic1091
    @jesterphobic1091 Год назад +27

    hey im autistic and undertale is my favorite thing of all time: this video is genuinely one of the best things ive ever watched and the amount of love you put into this is so prevalent and I'm in tears watching it im just that excited. thank you for this

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +5

      Hey, if you ever want to reach out to me, my socials are in the description.

  • @tigerbear5845
    @tigerbear5845 Год назад +11

    14:33 uhhh, I kind of don’t get the idea that “Deltarune doesn’t reveal that it’s a separate universe from Undertale until the end of the first chapter” thing, seeing as *_Asriel is mentioned to be in college during the opening car ride_* unless like, you subscribe to the “Saved Asriel AU’s” or you have a Soulless Flowey in college which is honestly quite a funny image.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +4

      Well, lemme have a BIT of artistic license in how I retell my experience.

  • @Fun_Is_Infinite
    @Fun_Is_Infinite Год назад +43

    "Only the fearless made proceed. Brave ones, foolish ones. Both walk not the middle road."

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +5

      Vot??

    • @Fun_Is_Infinite
      @Fun_Is_Infinite Год назад +1

      vodka@@TheLudomancer

    • @Fun_Is_Infinite
      @Fun_Is_Infinite Год назад +4

      anywyays, just finished watching everything. Such a great video which summarised my love for Undertale and it's series. Editing is out of the park especially! @@TheLudomancer
      11:31 - 12:10

    • @CalvinNoire
      @CalvinNoire Год назад +2

      "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here."

  • @gamingdudedonal3312
    @gamingdudedonal3312 Год назад +12

    My fav part of undertale is when mettaton falls through the floor into persona 4

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +3

      Hey. Ziodyne, Marin Karin, Physical Null and Electric drain make him an Ace Persona for his point in pre-endgame progression.

  • @Girl-Guy-Thing
    @Girl-Guy-Thing Год назад +16

    Girl help I've accidently stumbled upon a RUclipsr with the perfect amount of chaotic & comprehensive editing, jokes, ideas, and general vibes to fully indulge in my Deltarune brainrot and I can't stOP WATCHING SOMEONE PLEASE HELP I--
    [inhale]
    AA

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +4

      Don’t forget. You’re here forever. (You literally aren’t and I can do nothing to make you leave)

  • @Cynsicle
    @Cynsicle Год назад +5

    Bro causally dropped two of the best deltarune edits mid video and thought we wouldn’t notice

  • @Finleys_snek
    @Finleys_snek Год назад +32

    And to think he's the guy who made "the baby is you".

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +23

      Don’t Homestuck in front of me, don’t tempt me, I’ll do it, I’ll read it, I’ll stare Cthulhu in the face and come out a quibbling pile of muck 3 years ago and start work on the Big Pokémon video.
      Aaah crap I did it

    • @Finleys_snek
      @Finleys_snek Год назад +5

      @@TheLudomancer lmao

  • @anonymoussinner2209
    @anonymoussinner2209 Год назад +8

    bro just casually dropped the sickest impolite buster edit and expected us to move on??? I want that as its own video im losing it

    • @anonymoussinner2209
      @anonymoussinner2209 Год назад +2

      i was too quick to comment I want the second edit too bastard

  • @Eraser_Tracer
    @Eraser_Tracer Год назад +61

    I mean, I don’t think Kris HATES us, per say, (I honestly think it depends on our actions whether they hate us or not). But they certainly have a bit of resentment.
    Also your editing is literally peak lol.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +27

      That’s the fun of the mystery! Who knows how they feel about Hugging/Ignoring/Flipping off Ralsei??? Who knows how much they know? Who knows how much Ralsei Knows ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!!

  • @yellowsnake7300
    @yellowsnake7300 Год назад +45

    You did it. You perfectly captured the feelings that were invoked when Undertale, chapter 1 and chapter 3 first came out. I can’t really describe it, but there is was just a very unique _feeling_ that all those installments brought out that were distinct from each other, and you somehow captured that nuance with your segments on each of them. It’s an incredibly nostalgic feeling that I’m thankful to you for sharing. The editing of this was so incredibly phenomenal, I literally didn’t even notice 25 minutes had gone buy until it was at the end. I honestly would’ve loved for it to go on for longer, though I’m sure this type of editing for a video that’s even 25 minutes must be a challenging ordeal. Seriously, this is an incredible video.
    I would absolutely love more content on Kris, snowgrave, ralsie, all of it. I don’t think I could ever get bored with content that has this much passion behind it. Subscribed!

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +8

      It took like 3 months. This level of extravagance isn’t something I’m liable to recreate anytime soon. But hey, I’m not sure sure what I’ll do next. Definitely the weekly series.

    • @ordinarytrustworthycrowwit700
      @ordinarytrustworthycrowwit700 Год назад +6

      "When (...) chapter 3 first came out."
      Don't think I wouldn't notice, time-travelling serpent! What do You know that we don't?

    • @yellowsnake7300
      @yellowsnake7300 Год назад +3

      @@ordinarytrustworthycrowwit700 shhh we’ll just have to wait and see :)

  • @InsertFunnyThingHere
    @InsertFunnyThingHere 3 месяца назад +6

    I usually keep my comments exclusively to discussing the topic of the video in this channel but i feel like i want to mention how much I adore your editing style
    It's the right amount of quick paced while not feeling like some desperate attention grabbing Mr Beast Copycat type editing, it has the right amount of jokes and references added in without feeling like they waste screen time or rely on memes that will stop being funny within a week, and in general the jokes tend to really land for me (which doesn't really have to do with the editing but it's worth mentioning darn it).

  • @AshnSilvercorp
    @AshnSilvercorp 11 месяцев назад +4

    I love how that meme for the pie came way before chapter 2, and Toby was like: _Yea, that actually happens._

  • @blazingtrs6348
    @blazingtrs6348 9 месяцев назад +11

    I like how Toby went from "eat shit and die, f*****" to having some of the best queer representation I've seen in games

  • @ryuumars
    @ryuumars Год назад +45

    Your editing style appeals to my adhd.
    Oh yeah and also great analysis of the themes of both Undertale and Deltarune. Most analyses focus on choice or the lack of it rather than the relationship between player and the in universe characters. Made me see these works in a different way even though it’s been almost 10 years since Undertale came out.

  • @voltspite
    @voltspite Год назад +20

    20:00 I never noticed the symbolism of the perspectives. It’s such a cool subtlety I’ve never seen anyone else talk about.
    On top of that, this video is INSANELY well edited! I can’t wait for more from you in the future.

    • @nintendovirtualboywastakenfsr
      @nintendovirtualboywastakenfsr 6 месяцев назад

      there’s also new party members… so you gotta… make sure you can see them… and it’s perhaps not necessarily a stylistic choice to reflect the relationship between player and character [insert pretentious Latin phrases here]…

  • @NightOfTheRavens
    @NightOfTheRavens Год назад +86

    As much as i love Undertale's and Deltarune's meta narrative, i gotta say that i wouldn't ever have forgiven Toby if he would just be content with leaving Chara to be more of a narrative tool than an actual CHARActer (as much as he tried to give them character with love for chocolate and different lines of dialogue on the genocide route, i really can't blame most players for thinking that Chara is some kind of allegory to Satan or just evil incarnate, they don't really have anything to paint them in a good light from our direct perspective). Glad he's doing something seemingly different in Deltarune.

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying Год назад +21

      Call me crazy, but I think Chara came with us in Deltarune, not controlling Kris or anything just like they didn't control Frisk, but because of their connection to our soul Chara was transported to Deltarune with us the player, evidence for this is the game making references to undertale when we see stuff that were also in undertale, like the bake sale, the save point states this is not the 1st time we see it, there was other stuff but I forgot
      For who I think the narrator is in Deltarune, its Chara and Kris, both narrating stuff, Chara being with us would also work in the theme of "not being above consequences", if we did geno then Chara comes with us too, we can't escape what we did by just going to another universe

    • @MoRPho151
      @MoRPho151 Год назад +6

      I also believe he made a lot of mistakes that had let to people misunderstand the game a lot in a bad way. I felt that the end of the game was particularly rushed, it is noticeable.

    • @amagicalbeing7427
      @amagicalbeing7427 Год назад

      ​@@mariotheundyingthank you now I know I'm not the only one with that theory

    • @cito7288
      @cito7288 Год назад +3

      ⁠@@mariotheundyingbut that would be dysfunctional from a metanarrative standpoint because not every Deltarune player has gone through the Genocide route in Undertale, some haven’t even played Undertale at all. It also contradicts what Toby said about DR and UT being completely separate things.

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying Год назад +5

      @@cito7288 Toby has said both have connections and are not entirely separate, also Toby said that deltarune is for people who finished undertale, and you know this very well if you were there when deltarune released out of nowhere, so it doesn't contradict anything and still makes sense, also you don't need to go geno for Chara to be with you, Chara was with you from the very start of your playthrought, the player's determination woke their spirit from the death the moment frisk fell on their corpse, or the moment the player took control (yes, below the golden flowers Chara is there buried), Chara tells you this in geno if you don't believe me, and the reason Chara got geno tendencies is because you corrupted Chara, so if you didn't do geno then Chara is a "good" kid
      Finishing undertale at least once like in a neutral route, like Toby said to do before playing deltarune, makes the theory possible

  • @a_H8man
    @a_H8man Год назад +11

    I CANT STOP REPLAYING THE DELTARUNE INTRO PART HELP ME I LOVE IT I LOVE IT *I LOVE IT*

  • @triple3slash5
    @triple3slash5 Год назад +27

    Speaking as an aspiring video/audio editor, your editing rearranged my brain chemistry.
    I'm no Deltarune/Undertale expert, but having immersed myself into the community over the past... Oh lord, seven years... Regardless, having that context, it amazes me how you have the restraint to touch on certain related topics, elaborate just enough to actually explain the point and then MOVE THE FUCK ON. Major respect for keeping things concise and to the point despite having the opportunities to fall down all of the rabbitholes.
    In general? Masterful video. Unironically, GameTheory pales in comparison to you.
    Looking forward to seeing your next video in my notifications!

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +7

      Thank you! It had better be masterful given how damn long it took.
      “Moving the fuck on” was a skill learned by constant failure and tangential nonsense in previous Pokémon Scripts!
      I’m not personally a GT fan anymore, but I do respect the hustle. Getting videos out that consistently is a skill in and of itself.

    • @triple3slash5
      @triple3slash5 Год назад +1

      @@TheLudomancer If I may be bold to ask, is there any plans for a Discord server or community chat of some sort? I understand if not, since I know from experience how much of a nightmare managing two separate audiences hopping into the same community can be.
      (unless i missed it while clicking all the socials links)

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@triple3slash5it’s been on my mind. I don’t think I have any immediate plans for a discord server, but if I do start acting prominent on another website, it’ll probably be that one.
      Why do you ask?

  • @thelemoncoffee
    @thelemoncoffee Год назад +6

    honestly this is hands down the best summarisation of Undertale and Deltarune i've ever seen. alot of people get so roped up in the theories they miss the actual intent of the game, but you hit the nail on the head in this. kudos

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +1

      THE THEORY SCENE IS REALLY WEIRD THO!?!
      Toby's narration is Weird, he gets tangential, he paints very vivid pictures, dense with references, to the point where it's impossible to tell what's storytelling and what's jokes, I Love It Dearly. There's so much to be done if you take everything in context and do minimal extrapolation but everyone ends up going off and ascribing everything to the two characters we know the least about, Gaster&Chara, because WE DON'T KNOW BETTER YET uuugh.

  • @paintedhen5242
    @paintedhen5242 Год назад +2

    9:22 inverted fate is for all intents and purposes pretty in line to original undertale and, while not perfect, doesn’t necessarily negate its themes. i recommend giving the comic a try

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад

      I wholly believe that it's fine. A lot of the art is charming. It's just the base premise of "Happy Ending happened, but TIMELINE JUNK, UH OH, NEW PLOT!" that's enough to make me feel weird about the whole enterprise. As said, I love that they exist, but it's a bit weird that it's been so emphatically ignored.

  • @loonazawarudo_loveChuu
    @loonazawarudo_loveChuu Год назад +5

    Just from the intro i know this is gonna be amazing. Literally rewatching it a lot before proceeding

  • @Kowal9833
    @Kowal9833 Год назад +17

    Excuse me, why is this video so underrated??? The editing is simply genius. We gotta change this - share it with every fan of Undertale IMMEDIATELY!

  • @michaele8444
    @michaele8444 Год назад +6

    Shocked you don’t have 100k by now. The editing is on point

  • @lemon_bread9534
    @lemon_bread9534 10 месяцев назад +3

    INSANELY HIGH QUALITY EDITS FOR NO REASON!!!! LOVELY STUFF!!!!!!!!

  • @uraynuke
    @uraynuke Год назад +56

    I'm always a lil' hesitant to watch anything UT/DR-related due to fear of the games being misconstrued, but this video is AMAZING! great job on writing this, and editing it- oh my god, the editing in this video was *SO GOOD.*
    please, keep making videos! make MORE. I will watch all of them! you have THAT kind of engaging writing style, it's downright contagious

  • @roseyAlina
    @roseyAlina 11 месяцев назад +5

    This gotta be one of the greatest edited videos I’ve ever seen holy shit

  • @diacosiapentacontahex
    @diacosiapentacontahex Год назад +11

    I'm not even 10 minutes in and this is already the greatest deconstruction and faithful, authentic analysis of Undertale that I have ever seen. The fact that this video actually understands and brings to light what Undertale really is and is truly trying to communicate puts this leagues above any other retrospective-style video I have ever seen on the game to date. If Toby Fox understands breaking the gaming meta to a T, then this video understands Toby's understanding to a T.

  • @ExValeFor
    @ExValeFor Год назад +6

    this man is the one and only tobyverse content creator who has captured what w.d. gaster is supposed to sound like (in my head)

  • @sino3318
    @sino3318 10 месяцев назад +4

    i was just gonna comment about just how GOOD this video is, the editing and everything (!!!!!), and then GAME CHANGER!!! HE'S BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME 🗣🗣📢

  • @CaitlinMagness
    @CaitlinMagness 3 месяца назад +3

    20:17 as someone who was a pianist once upon a time I can confirm, the worst thing the player does to Kris is make them suck at piano

  • @TheUltimateMovieWatcherINC.
    @TheUltimateMovieWatcherINC. Год назад +9

    I don't think AU's are trying to disrespect the message of Undertale. They are called Alternate Universes for a reason, they are letting the normal world of undertale live on, well people get to tell more stories with the characters. Even Toby Fox likes the AU's and fangames, he hired the creator of Undertale Red to help him create Deltarune. and I think, Deltarune is pretty much a canon Undertale AU.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +3

      Who died and made me god-arbiter of taste??

    • @TheUltimateMovieWatcherINC.
      @TheUltimateMovieWatcherINC. Год назад +4

      @@TheLudomancer I hope you make a continuation to this video when Deltarune chapter 3 and 4 come out.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +3

      @@TheUltimateMovieWatcherINC. You’d need might beyond god to so much as delay me.

    • @TheUltimateMovieWatcherINC.
      @TheUltimateMovieWatcherINC. Год назад +2

      @@TheLudomancer I am hoping for more good videos from you this month, so the goodness of your videos can equal out the badness of me breaking my finger yesterday and having to wear a splint for the rest of the month.

  • @faillure3356
    @faillure3356 10 месяцев назад +2

    The only way I can describe this video is Maxxor meets Andrew Cunningham and I LOVE IT

  • @lejen1925
    @lejen1925 6 месяцев назад +5

    The amount of effort you put on this video, both on editing and narrative aspects, is terrificaly amazing. I've learned A LOT from watching this 25 minutes, both editing-wise and knowledge-wise. God knows how many weeks you put into preparing these 25 minutes. I can't thank you enough for the masterpiece you've uploaded.
    By the way, I also really liked the references you made to Final Fantasy 15, it's my favorite FF in the whole franchise. It'd be really cool to have another video dedicated to FFXV IMHO.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  6 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks! It took me Several Months.
      Really? I'm glad an XV Fan was cool with me kinda dunking on it for the ludonarrative dissonance of Noctis acting like a road trip clown when the plot's trying to do inter-kingdom politics. (I love the game for the fantasy road trip vibes, but I kinda thought it was a mess outside of that.)

  • @tatltails3923
    @tatltails3923 Год назад +6

    If this video doesn't get you to blow up I don't know what will, it's a masterpiece in discussing with equal importance the mastery of ludonarrative consequence Toby Fox has made a name for himself with... and the memes.

  • @tophatgeo
    @tophatgeo Год назад +10

    This video feels like you fused a manic video editor and an academic game scholar hopped up on G-Fuel to make some of the most insightful, well edited Undertale/Deltarune analysis which covers the core themes of these games on a way that has never been covered before.
    This video is absolutely fantastic and I'm buckled in for the crazy ride. I'm equally terrifed, in awe and excited at about how your editing is so dynamic and how clear you manage to be.
    Phenomenal work!!

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад

      A classic recipe. I Am the first two ingredients at once, sub out the Gfuel for Vocaloid nonsense and 100 Gecs, you got yourself a 20k view youtube sensatiomagation baybeee

    • @GumSkyloard
      @GumSkyloard 11 месяцев назад

      @@TheLudomancer 100 Gex? That's a lot of gex.

  • @justamicrowave5297
    @justamicrowave5297 10 месяцев назад +2

    The editing in this video has to be some of the best editing I have ever seen. I'm super upset that the algorithm gave me this video so late so I didn't get to experience the gaster thing which sucks but this video is still absolutely amazing. Yet another example of an obscure, underrated youtuber doing better than the people at the top.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you! It’s always great to hear this from people.

  • @wtfjackaboy
    @wtfjackaboy Год назад +3

    I’ve been in the Undertale fandom for around eight years now and this is straight up the best video essay I’ve ever watched on it. This was a flawlessly edited sugar-induced, manic fever dream that refused to let me breath for a single moment and I fucking LOVED IT. Sir… this was perfection.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +2

      Hey, if I’m so peak, share me around on Various Hellsites

    • @wtfjackaboy
      @wtfjackaboy Год назад +1

      @@TheLudomancer bold of you to assume I haven’t already 🤙

  • @Iwontusethis255
    @Iwontusethis255 Год назад +8

    The fact this is not only a great commentary, but also funny as hell with great editing and jokes simply amazes me

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад

      Script took like, 5 drafts, it was awesome.

    • @Iwontusethis255
      @Iwontusethis255 Год назад

      @@TheLudomancer oh, just noticed you called Kris a "he", was that intentional or a mistake?

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад

      SHIT! WHERE?!?
      I literally re-recorded a whole section for misgendering them, god dammit

    • @Iwontusethis255
      @Iwontusethis255 Год назад

      @@TheLudomancer at the start of the chapter 2 segment, as well as in a visual gag asking why Kris ripped "his" soul out, might be more but I'm not sure

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад

      @@Iwontusethis255 god dammit.

  • @Agelessmaltose
    @Agelessmaltose Год назад +16

    I absolutely love this video and the way it's written, ESPECIALLY the editing and enthusiasm. Well done!

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +3

      I have one virtue to my name. Most people would rather call it “Piss and Vinegar” but, potayto/potahto.

  • @sashag517
    @sashag517 11 месяцев назад +4

    it’s like i’m 14 again on the ut hype train PLEAAAASE i can’t wait for ur kris video

  • @Mysterygii69
    @Mysterygii69 Год назад +4

    This was like looking into a mirror of my brain which is a massive compliment.
    And side note: that “thank you for bringing me to life” is such a *powerful* quote that I never expected to hear in a video about Toby Fox’s video game soup dish

  • @grac7791
    @grac7791 Год назад +4

    The chapter 2 animated music video actually made me cry what the fuck, subscribed immediately

  • @declanthomas7159
    @declanthomas7159 Год назад +6

    It seems the algorithm has given me my new fave toby fox content creator. ADHD editing, Mystery Dungeon background music and even about 4 frames from Smiling Friends?? SIGN ME UP

  • @nobodyspecial6317
    @nobodyspecial6317 10 месяцев назад +2

    Well damn, Wasn't expecting something like this. I'm gonna send this to a friend and watch them implode.

  • @SarisWinterwisp
    @SarisWinterwisp 11 месяцев назад +3

    Great video, can't describe how delighted I was to hear CrossCode music and especially with how well it fit in

  • @BrumpoJumpo
    @BrumpoJumpo Год назад +6

    I'm only five minutes into the video right now , but it's so visually and audibly stunning and I'm immediately enammored with your channel

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I try So Damn Hard at this.

  • @StaticIsJustOkAtGames
    @StaticIsJustOkAtGames Год назад +20

    less then a minute in and i can tell this is going to be great

  • @BaileyFeesh
    @BaileyFeesh 10 месяцев назад +2

    This video SLAPS, very excited to see more from you

  • @tarruvi
    @tarruvi 11 месяцев назад +1

    This video is so overly edited and constructed, it’s like a near perfect example of the mental gymnastics and feelings the two games put the players through. That isn’t a bad thing, anything less would greatly undermine the weight these games could throw around when compared to AAA titles atm. Great work!

  • @dasilliestgoose
    @dasilliestgoose Год назад +5

    i highly recommend playing undertale yellow! it's the biggest love letter to undertale in terms of fan games ive seen in ages :)

  • @lexhilic
    @lexhilic 11 месяцев назад +4

    This is just.... incredible. The effort you put into this, all the thoughts, ideas, the editing: all of it makes for a such beautiful video, I've been putting off watching it but I'm glad i finally got around to watching it. Immediately subscribed lol
    Genuinely loved watching this, very funny, well-structured, written vid, captures exactly what makes Toby's content special
    Can't wait to see your other vids!!

  • @pkminpkmon
    @pkminpkmon Год назад +4

    The style of this video is INSANE, subscribed x10000.

  • @ASkeleton-cy6cz
    @ASkeleton-cy6cz 10 месяцев назад +2

    Holy fuck the entry 17 section was genuinely terrifying, absolutely fantastic video essay!

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  10 месяцев назад +1

      You’re the first one to comment on Entry 17. Super happy to know it hit that way!

    • @ASkeleton-cy6cz
      @ASkeleton-cy6cz 9 месяцев назад

      Uh sorry to respond over a month later but the editing on this video is immaculate and part of the reason I liked the gaster section so much is that it has a similar effect to when my headphones need to charge.

    • @ASkeleton-cy6cz
      @ASkeleton-cy6cz 9 месяцев назад

      Also I'm part of the small amount of weirdos who played deltarune before undertale

  • @steelce
    @steelce 11 месяцев назад +4

    holy shit why is this so well edited
    also all of a sudden vermillion wasteland????? fellow crosscode enjoyer, insta sub

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  11 месяцев назад +1

      Blood, Sweat, Tears, and other fluids unknown to modern science.

  • @Thorax420
    @Thorax420 10 месяцев назад +1

    this video was absolutely hilarious, i loved it so much LMAOO you captured how so many of us felt/feel about it still x"3 and INCREDIBLE editing holy shit!!
    i want to argue/infodump that imho Frisk isnt just an "empty vessel" with no personality, they actually have quite a lot of personality that's only subtley hinted at, and they DO actually speak and move for themself many times (gleaned from how characters react to them mostly). theyre much younger than Kris, and most likely less rebellious, or simply partially nonverbal. either way, since the players relationship with Frisk isnt the focus of undertale, it makes sense that they'd be much more placid than Kris, but still are their own person with their own reasons to climb the mountain

  • @PhysicsGamer
    @PhysicsGamer 10 месяцев назад +3

    I think you somewhat undersell how Undertale plays with the concept of a "player character". Namely, it splits the usually combined player character / protagonist / main character of the vast, vast majority of games into those three parts: you, Frisk, and Chara. At least, going by the "narra-Chara" interpretation - but I think that's nowadays pretty much accepted as the dominant interpretation.
    Chara has their whole... backstory... and then is woken up by Frisk falling on their grave. Chara is confused and disoriented, their plan having catastrophically failed. They're primed to question any and everything they know. And Frisk winds up with not one tag-along but two, picking up the player at the same time. The player has some sort of ability to influence or override Frisk's actions to some extent, and what you do with that power deeply affects both Frisk and Chara in different ways.
    Be a pacifist, and Frisk seems happy. They assert themselves increasingly over the course of the game, though generally only to push things forward. Chara also seems to warm up, being less wary of discovery and more willing to address Frisk and/or the player directly. The implication, I think, is that the player's / Frisk's genuinely selfless actions get through to Chara and get them to rethink at least the "kill or be killed" mentality they passed on to Flowey. Their narration also just becomes happier and more expressive, on the pacifist route.
    Meanwhile on the other route, Frisk withdraws further into themselves. They rapidly become numb to outside stimulus, and mostly stop reacting pretty quick. Chara, meanwhile, is probably having just about every dark thought they've ever had that made them "hate humanity" validated, with an extra helping of now also hating monsters. Probably due to blaming Asriel for their inital death, at least in part, but doubtlessly also just deciding to truly embrace the "kill or be killed" philosophy. Chara grows stronger until they start asserting themselves directly through Frisk's body. Eventually they also turn on the player, no longer fearing discovery but having become something to be feared.
    The first chapter of Deltarune rather noticeably lacked this three-character set up, with there just being Frisk and the player as actors. But Chapter 2 gave us Noelle, and while her arc in either route is extremely different to that of either of the non-player characters in Undertale... it definitely has considerable parallels. The normal route sees her raise her "Boldness", learning that she has to speak up in order to have any chance of getting what she wants. While Snowgrave sees her raise her "Coldness", learning that she can do anything so long as it's whatever "Kris" says.
    Noelle's arc in Snowgrave is pretty much put on hold after she walks off following the Birdley fight, and I wouldn't be surprised if she's absent from at least Chapter 3 since she really doesn't have any reason to go to Kris's house. But I have zero doubt we'll see more from her, and it'll be very interesting to see how those Undertale parallels are maintained and subverted moving forwards.

  • @Rauler_
    @Rauler_ 10 месяцев назад +1

    I don't know if most people here have seen Toby Fox's annoying dog
    earthbound interview, but 12:19 has to be one of the best recreations of how the dog sounds like

  • @Awesomeness-iz3dh
    @Awesomeness-iz3dh 11 месяцев назад +2

    Can we just talk though about how Toby Fox left it on the cliff hanger ending of Chapter 1 for 3 years with a direct callback to the corrupted pacifist ending of the first game and absolutely not a word as to what it meant only for it to be immediately revealed as a scheme to eat pie at the start of Chapter 2 and promptly swept under the rug? Like the god tier trolling of it all...

  • @colecreo
    @colecreo 5 месяцев назад +2

    I keep coming back to this video because the editing is absolute GOD-TIER

  • @RatcheT2497
    @RatcheT2497 Год назад +4

    i don't usually look at watch time when i click videos but i so badly wanted this to be a 3h essay. i clicked subscribe on the first reminder. normally when youtubers remind me to subscribe i don't even bother
    genuinely, absolutely astonishing work
    also i find the cascading choicelessness in deltarune really interesting, especially in the snowgrave route
    - noelle doesn't exercise much choice at all when faced with "kris"s commands, except maybe if you count the way her powers manifest (spike, shield, etc), with some of her past choices (helping spamton) coming back to her with disastrous consequences
    - kris exercises choice in relatively small ways, but is completely bound by the options we pick (until he takes the soul out at least, and even then he seems to have no choice but to take us back afterwards)
    - we exercise choice in what options we pick, but only when prompted by the game and from a limited set of options, bound by the narrative woven by toby fox (or gaster, hell if i know)
    no idea if this little comment makes any sense but the video got me thinking :)

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +1

      I wanted this to be 3 hours too, but if that were true you'd never see me again.

  • @ashoka9306
    @ashoka9306 Месяц назад +1

    I love how deltarune tells you your choices don't matter and then constantly subverts it but you don't have a choice not to enslave Kris to your will.
    The only thing you can do is imagine what Kris wants and act accordingly. You can be cruel and selfish, or try to be kind but even then you can do stuff that Kris doesn't like (like shipping him with Ralsei, something they does not seem to be too fond of). The question at the end of chapter 7 will be if the way we have treated Kris mattered.

  • @ArbitraryDevCC
    @ArbitraryDevCC Год назад +6

    This is just....god damn INCREDIBLE.
    Thank you for loving these games, just...wow. I'm speechless.

  • @chiptuna9536
    @chiptuna9536 Год назад +3

    I have never seen you before but i watched this video and now i think im in love

  • @maxleavitt8199
    @maxleavitt8199 Год назад +2

    that analog horror came out of nowhere, I love it

  • @Ectopl4sm
    @Ectopl4sm Год назад +4

    I am so lost yet intrigued by your editing. It’s so good and too chaotic for me to comprehend this late at night .-.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад

      I knew that was a bit of a risk. It’s ok. I get sensory overload issues sometimes too.

  • @dr.mexico9265
    @dr.mexico9265 Год назад +2

    Bro made the hardest deltarune edit and thought we wouldn't notice

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад

      Oh No, I've Been Perceived! Please Don't Spread Word Of My Nonsense On Social Platforms like [REDDIT TASK FORCE] and [S H I T T E R]
      That Would Be Ever So Dreadful!
      (but seriously, thank you.)

  • @thearchives2132
    @thearchives2132 11 месяцев назад +3

    Retain your vigil, children. Ye lamb, sheperd and knower.
    Fool the angel, flee the cold and hide the old churchgoer.
    The vessel soon awakens, for, whom, the toy will tell.
    Her fear will draw her closer, that angel is your knell.
    Knell means a solemn church bell rung at a funeral, so by saying that the angel is your knell, it could also mean the angel is your death?

  • @tyxolotl
    @tyxolotl 7 месяцев назад

    the transition to chapter 2 is the best transition I have ever fucking seen A CYBERS WORLD!? slaps so hard and you used it perfectly

  • @zeman156
    @zeman156 8 месяцев назад +2

    This is a genuine master piece pls put in a art show and make it my wall paper

  • @bauschaum2158
    @bauschaum2158 11 месяцев назад +2

    This video. This video gets it. I cannot put my apreciation for this video into words. It pefectly sums up my brainrot and hyperfixation.

  • @am-180
    @am-180 Год назад +2

    ah yes. toby "radiation" fox. creator of the earthbound halloween hack. then undertale. and nothing in-between

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +1

      Yep. Not a siiingle other thing.
      Nothing.
      Whatsoever.
      Regardless of what people say under the influence of a mass hypnosis phenomenon.

  • @NickieX3
    @NickieX3 7 месяцев назад +1

    This whole video is beautiful. And I don’t use that word lightly this feels like a tribute to all of Toby’s work. The editing, humor and also having amazing translations to more serious parts of the video.
    This is art. Not just an essay. This is art.

  • @cognitiveAfflatus
    @cognitiveAfflatus Год назад +15

    This was really great to watch after finishing Underevent; your editing and scripting was impeccable. I can't wait to see more.

  • @italex827
    @italex827 10 месяцев назад +1

    Undertale Yellow is probably the best fanfiction of anything I've ever experienced. It works alongside the existing lore so seamlessly, it's not ever funny. Which is exactly how I'd describe Yellow. It's funny as hell. And heartfelt, well designed characters, visuals and music that it matches and even surpasses Undertale in certain regards.

  • @icantthinkstraight8853
    @icantthinkstraight8853 Год назад +4

    this video is the editing equivalent of a manic episode and i mean that in the best way possible

  • @matiasgarciacasas558
    @matiasgarciacasas558 10 месяцев назад +1

    It's insane that a game like Undertale exists. It's such a masterpiece, it's so well done, it's so rich and unique that it stuck with me and rot my brain for years.
    Like, what the hell? How can a human being make something like that? Toby Fox is too powerful.

  • @obnoxas
    @obnoxas Год назад +6

    Alright. Just past the intro animation and I'm already subscribing. Between that and your channel name, this seems like it's gonna be one hell of a ride.
    Edit 1: GOD DAMN THESE FUCKIN RECAP/INTRO ANIMATIONS. THIS SHIT IS AMAZING.
    Edit 2: Where's the double subscribe button. This is amazing.

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад

      THANK YOU I WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT AAAAAAH

    • @obnoxas
      @obnoxas Год назад

      ​@@TheLudomancer IT'S SO AMAZING!!!!

  • @milktooth4996
    @milktooth4996 9 месяцев назад +1

    the editing in this video really pulled me in. the sheer number of things i could pick out really speaks to the skill you have. and your stage presence, no amount of fancy editing (okay maybe some amount) would make me stay for the entire video. and your humor! it had me laughing throughout the entire runtime
    my favourite bits of editing (that i have rewatched a few times) would be the opening cut and the cut for chapter two. so much eye candy and beautifully quick movements/transitions!
    thank you for making this video! i’ll be sure to check out your other stuff too!

  • @Robohost1
    @Robohost1 Год назад +1

    This video style is crazy and on drugs and I'm 100% here for it

  • @Nex_Terra
    @Nex_Terra Год назад +4

    did I hear crosscode music????
    Genuinely can't express how happy I am

    • @TheLudomancer
      @TheLudomancer  Год назад +3

      It’s my favourite Action RPG. Period. Love it to bits.

    • @Nex_Terra
      @Nex_Terra Год назад

      @@TheLudomancer AGREED

  • @shadowelii
    @shadowelii Год назад +4

    my brain hurts in the best way possible i am so over the moon about this video. i got pulled into undertale [and as a result, deltarune] again this year, after never finishing UT when it first came out. thank you for sharing, i look forward to watching your other videos [old and new]. happy new year!

  • @braydenbanks4228
    @braydenbanks4228 Год назад +2

    Despite the chaos, no, in fact, partially due to said chaos; I say this video was immaculately edited.

  • @bluesrues
    @bluesrues Год назад +2

    ONESHOT REFERENCE ONESHOT REFERENCE ONESHOT REFERENCE

  • @dextra_24703
    @dextra_24703 Год назад +2

    First time here and wow this is the most chaotic yet comprehensible editing I've ever seen.

  • @aleyton8168
    @aleyton8168 Год назад +2

    ok, this has been an incredible analysis of what toby has acomplised, defenetly will press that funny button to see that kris, ralsei, dess, ch3, and more more more undertale/deltarune video essays in your undertale arc just want more more more

  • @Zakru
    @Zakru Год назад +3

    I'd recognize the Ball of Moss from Tinkers' Construct anywhere. Modded Minecraft gamers rise up. Also great video overall. The fast paced edits don't make watching this while sleep deprived easy, but hey at least you get some more viewer retention from me rewinding.

  • @lerdeldrinboiYT
    @lerdeldrinboiYT Год назад +3

    Amazing video that felt like it was at 2x speed.
    Also I feel the foreshadowing of a future video.
    A video that seems...
    VERY
    VERY
    INTERESTING

  • @TheJelloMancer
    @TheJelloMancer Год назад +1

    This was one of the best video essays I’ve seen yet. The amount of work that probably was put in is remarkable.