@@Love-wz4vg nope nothing like that happened bro check proper details again USA was blocking India's trade because of this India Russia trading exchange and they even almost section India
To be honest this is pretty standard industry wide. This happens in every industry, if redesign is required then cost escalation is standard. I would blame Indian Railways as it’s absolutely ridiculous that they missed adding a pantry car and 4 lavatories per car on a sleeper train!! There should be an audit as to how or why these demands were not added before signing the contract.
If oyetrograd electromachine were involved, they, enable redesign of all hydro designs at dams to be the worlds largest , especially largest not 860 or rathet 2000 mw to 2000reach hour by replacment of materials of construction and bills of materials or extremely, head raises and sequencingtail lower ing, cascadingin such a way that matters come to such ahead we outperform or come at par with Chinese like baiheta nand Tibet, complementarity, be better than dapsan?or even come yo such a head that we are at par with transrapid, specifically maglev?
These idiotic babus are hellbent on completely screwing up every single international deal… first japan has walked out of bullet train deal… now this!!!😂😂😂 These ignoramus bureaucrats think they know everything… n the rest of the world is just a bunch of stupid monkeys who will jump around at their every wish n command!!!
For indigenous, Govt. will have to spend a major amount in R&D and that's not they want. Also, it will take more time in developing indi tech. And the Govt. wants to show public their potential in this tenure only. That's why they are having tie-ups with foreign countries so that their tech. experience can be used to build trains in less time.
It's not easy to make any machine complete by one country, even US is depended on Chinese products to make any product, even India is also making items for USA China and France
Nothing wrong with TMH .. the fact is it’s commonly seen with Govt bodies to act unprofessional and last minute change of design .. we have seen how HAL , NAL etc has been hammered by design changes and been after all approvals .. this is a fix bid project and everything work as per SOW .. if last minute changes comes then extra costs has to be charged .. this way it work
@@tonyzang2344 The first bullet train is expected to be manufactured in Bengaluru, featuring a design speed of 280 kilometers per hour (kmph) and an operational speed of 250 kmph. This train is slated for rollout by December 2026.
This shows the incapacity of our babus on what they demand and how much they modify. Such callous attitude puts railways board and it's planning and design wing to shame.
Iss baar Galti Railways Ki hai, Unke bureaucrats man-mana cheez kr rahe hain. Jb Aapne har Ek Boogie main Pantry, Staff ke liye jagah aur 3 bathrrom kr hi diya tha jo ki Accha tha uske baad wapas Purane wale sysytem Pr jane ka kya Jarurat haia. Cost aur time Dono aiese Main Barbaad hota hai
This project is make in India. Make in India doesn't mean that we don't want foreign companies investment or foreign collab. We want products and tech should be made inside India by Indian people
@@shinigamiryuk786 Thats called contracting, do you want to be just a manufacturer or a developer and a manufacturer? Face it, we don't have the skill and technology to do the stuff they are doing... this isn't the current govt's fault either as this has been going on forever.
We don't have bandwidth to take further orders. All Indian organizations are full with orders, the reason why we had to give these order to Russia, we can't delay modernization and they are making this in India as well i heard.
Sir; don't mind Lekin aap jaise log iit madras jaise institutions se padhkar bhi dusri streams apna lete hain Nahi to indigenous designs bhi hum bana hi lete Chahe wo wande bharat ho ya koi jet engine
Being an indian ...I feel bad....If indian cannot help it friend- Russia with man force ....atleast India should help them in financial form... It is wrong to make bargain at their rough time..
No surprise any deal with Russia will have many problems India should have learned it long time ago ... Never deal with Russians ...very surprise that India cud not build it on their own ... still time to scuttle this deal ...
Isme IR ko interior design pasand nahi aaya kyun ki IR standardised design har rake me maintain karna chahta hai. Isiliye train design me aur kuch months lagega.. however the project is not delayed.
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Indian railways should have made a deal with france,since france makes one of the best trains in the world.we should only restrict to defence deals with russia.
Very amateaurish way of inking the deal by Indian railways because they failed to hammer out the details on the specifications of the coaches to be made at the onset.
😂😂 har gajah wahiyat decision liya jata h to bhugto .wahi decision 5th generation fighter jets m liya gaya .aaj tak koinaata pata nahi h lagta h 2040se pahle koi prototypes nahi aayega wahi other countries working 7th generation technology p😂😂😂😂
This dispose ruppes in Vostro account of Russia in india if we added some thing have to cost because of maintenance problem is from our side this burocrat don't know number of coach our all trains
@@nuppanuppa We are too far away from our aim and this can be remedied if we invite foreign engineers to manufacture weapons for us like Project babylon. Our education system is ensuring we can not develop indigenious technology.
Political or ideological rivalry has made you blind. Think about India first, and shed chaplusi.. Its a fact that India never had technology to make modern trains. When I say never, it means never, including those 50 years. So just appreciate that something good is happening now. A developing cannot do everything on its on., but something is happening, be it with the help of foreing companies, is good for the country. So be happy.
Nothing wrong in what the kinet has said, this is a technical blunder by Indian railways. The technical people will understand that their statements are correct. Luggage and extra toilet will require extensive redesigning.
Ek to dhang ka fighter craft ka design dhang se ban nahi rhaa. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Banani ha to technology khud se viksit kro nahi wo nahi karenge inko color me interest hai design me interest hai....😂😂
जय श्री राम प्रधान मंत्री श्री नरेंद्र मोदी जी सरकार भारतीय जनता भारत राज्य की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो के लिए बहुत अच्छे जरूरी सम्मानित प्रधान मंत्री श्री नरेंद्र मोदी जी सरकार 2024 में भी तीसरा बार मोदी जी सरकार हाँ सच बोलते हें पिएम मोदी जी सरकार उन्होने अपनी इंडिया यानी भारत सुन्दर भव्य बनायेगे पिएम मोदी जी सरकार रूस विदेश पहले वंदे भारत ट्रेन के डिजाइन बनाता था जिसमें भारत ने रेड लाइन मार्क किया है जिसमें वो बनाने के लिए 5500 करोड़ रू की मांग कि जिससे भारत ने मना कर दियें वो अब डिजाइन खुद बनायेंगे जिससे हमारे भारत देश को विकास होगा यानी फायदा होगा हाँ हमारे भारत राज्य देश की मजबूती विकास विक्सित लाने मे आगे बढाने मे भारत देश की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो की सुधार सुरक्षा सुरक्षित अच्छे सुन्दर बनायें रखने मे देश मे अच्छे बदलाव लाने बढाने मे सहियोग मदद मे हम सभी भारत देशवासियो गरीबों के लिए अमुम्किन काम भी मुम्किन बना कर पुरी भारत राज्य की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो में बहुत ज्यादा तरक्की विक्सित आगे बढाने मे ALL INDIA यानी पुरी भारत में मेगाबरे पोज्यक्ट खर्च किए हें वर्तमान मे कर ही रहे हैं हाँ MÈGA TOP PROJECT बना कर दिखायें हें हाँ पिएम मोदी जी सरकार हाँ भारत विकासशील हो रहा है भारत विकास होगा पिएम मोदी जी सरकार आयेंगे तो विकास विक्सित होगा अच्छे इमनदार महान ज्ञानी पुरूष देशभक्त मोदी जी सरकार हें हम सभी भारत देशवासियो गरीबों के लिए बहुत अच्छे जरूरी महान धार्मिक दयालु सम्मानित व्यतीत हे देशभक्त मोदी जी सरकार पिएम मोदी जी सरकार रूस विदेश की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो की और रूस विदेश मास्को राजधानी आफिस की लोक सभा चुनाव मे वोट मोदी जी सरकार को मिला है रूपनारायण पुर पक्षमि बंगाल राज्य की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो की और कलकत्ता राजधानी आफिस की लोक सभा चुनाव मे वोट मोदी जी सरकार को मिला है ALL INDIA यानी पुरी भारत राज्य की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो की और दिल्ली संसद भवन राष्ट्रपति भवन लालकिला भाजपा आफिस भारत मंडपम मैंदान पुरी दिल्ली राजधानी आफिस की लोक सभा चुनाव मे वोट मोदी जी सरकार को मिला है भारत देश की सभी विदेश की बंगाल की बांग्लादेश की पाकिस्तान देश की पुरी दुनिया की सभी राज्य की जिला की राज्यो देशो की लोक सभा चुनाव मे वोट मोदी जी सरकार को मिला है भारत माता की जय 🙏🙏भारत विश्र्व की सबसे बरा नेता लोकप्रिय यशस्वी प्रधान मंत्री श्री नरेंद्र मोदी जी सरकार औरों सभी राष्टपति नेता नागरिक देश विदेश की नेता नागरिक जनजाति आदिवासी विदेशियों भारत देशवासियो सभी को बहुत बहुत हार्दिक बधाई एवं शुभकामनाऐ मिले धन्यवाद् पिएम मोदी जी सरकार को मान सम्मान स्वागत अभिनन्दन हो उन्हें भी बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद् भारत सभी राज्यो देशो पुरी दुनिया के लिए जरूरी बहुत अच्छे महान पुरूष देशभक्त B J P मोदी जी सरकार जिन्दाबाद जयहिन्द जयभारत भारतभाग्यविधाता पुज्यनिय सादरप्रणाम
There is no permanent friend and enemy. There is only permanent interests in geopolitics.
We must be atmanirbhar...
Jai Hind...🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
If you don't have your own tech you will need to keep friends first. Thats how geopolitics works, exploiting weaknesses and liabilities....
Support india, russia, Isreal, arab, america kuch nahi. Support your mother land.
dude in 2020 iska price kaam than but India rejected now price have rise higher , indian bueracy waste time
Second this.
@@Love-wz4vg nope nothing like that happened bro check proper details again USA was blocking India's trade because of this India Russia trading exchange and they even almost section India
To be honest this is pretty standard industry wide. This happens in every industry, if redesign is required then cost escalation is standard. I would blame Indian Railways as it’s absolutely ridiculous that they missed adding a pantry car and 4 lavatories per car on a sleeper train!! There should be an audit as to how or why these demands were not added before signing the contract.
If oyetrograd electromachine were involved, they, enable redesign of all hydro designs at dams to be the worlds largest , especially largest not 860 or rathet 2000 mw to 2000reach hour by replacment of materials of construction and bills of materials or extremely, head raises and sequencingtail lower ing, cascadingin such a way that matters come to such ahead we outperform or come at par with Chinese like baiheta nand Tibet, complementarity, be better than dapsan?or even come yo such a head that we are at par with transrapid, specifically maglev?
These idiotic babus are hellbent on completely screwing up every single international deal… first japan has walked out of bullet train deal… now this!!!😂😂😂
These ignoramus bureaucrats think they know everything… n the rest of the world is just a bunch of stupid monkeys who will jump around at their every wish n command!!!
We want indigenous technology
we dont have chill dude
Development should not stop while we wait for indegenous tech. Since we dont have at this point,, we need to let the infra development continue....
For indigenous, Govt. will have to spend a major amount in R&D and that's not they want. Also, it will take more time in developing indi tech. And the Govt. wants to show public their potential in this tenure only. That's why they are having tie-ups with foreign countries so that their tech. experience can be used to build trains in less time.
@@nageshtendolkar4588 Abe tere ghar mein tere pasand ki sabzi nahi banti..tu yahan indigenous technology maang raha hai...sharam.kar..
Why are we dealing with Russia on Vande Bharat project?
Increase speed
It's not easy to make any machine complete by one country, even US is depended on Chinese products to make any product, even India is also making items for USA China and France
@@JACKdark92Tell that to China and Japan and France. Just making excuses for incompetence.
Because IR wants new tech.
Need based changes must be done.
Indian railways wants to spoil design and make it into gareeb Rath
🤣🤣😆
Correct , anpad gawar neta banenge hamare to yahi hoga...
Nothing wrong with TMH .. the fact is it’s commonly seen with Govt bodies to act unprofessional and last minute change of design .. we have seen how HAL ,
NAL etc has been hammered by design changes and been after all approvals .. this is a fix bid project and everything work as per SOW .. if last minute changes comes then extra costs has to be charged .. this way it work
Perfectly said..this is totally an unprofessional approach by indian officials..everything must be cleared at the time of the deal
Kb hogi hamari trains ki speed 300-400km/hr
Hm bahut piche he poori duniya se is mamle me
UNder way hai 225 km is already built
@@SinghSagar-hc5hc 280
@@Kingpathan-c9v bhai konsi train he 250/280 ??
mujhe bhi batao
@@tonyzang2344 The first bullet train is expected to be manufactured in Bengaluru, featuring a design speed of 280 kilometers per hour (kmph) and an operational speed of 250 kmph. This train is slated for rollout by December 2026.
@@tonyzang2344 300-400kmph ki tickets hazaro me hoga isse acha Indians flights me 1200kmph speed me sasthe me jasakthe he.
You didn't mention who is sender and who would be the receiver, strange missing this important point.
This shows the incapacity of our babus on what they demand and how much they modify. Such callous attitude puts railways board and it's planning and design wing to shame.
Sahi russia bolraha hai baat mein design change karne se toh kharcha bhi barna jaas hai.
जरुरत नहीं रूस की रेलवे सेक्टर में
Iss baar Galti Railways Ki hai, Unke bureaucrats man-mana cheez kr rahe hain. Jb Aapne har Ek Boogie main Pantry, Staff ke liye jagah aur 3 bathrrom kr hi diya tha jo ki Accha tha uske baad wapas Purane wale sysytem Pr jane ka kya Jarurat haia. Cost aur time Dono aiese Main Barbaad hota hai
Make In India कहा गया , पुरी रेल्वे को भी हम नहीं बना सकते
It’s obvious, if you did Tate design changes you have to pay, not unexpected at all.
, विश्व स्तरीय दिल्ली रेलवे स्टेशन बनाने से सरकार पीछे क्यों हट रही है उसको बनाना चाहिए 😮😮
It's normal thing in Industry... Infact the delay could be pointed at Indian side for not being pro active and requesting changes.
Where is make in India ?
This project is make in India. Make in India doesn't mean that we don't want foreign companies investment or foreign collab. We want products and tech should be made inside India by Indian people
@@shinigamiryuk786 Thats called contracting, do you want to be just a manufacturer or a developer and a manufacturer? Face it, we don't have the skill and technology to do the stuff they are doing... this isn't the current govt's fault either as this has been going on forever.
We don't have bandwidth to take further orders. All Indian organizations are full with orders, the reason why we had to give these order to Russia, we can't delay modernization and they are making this in India as well i heard.
*Ek train bhi kudh nahi bana sakte!*
Sir; don't mind
Lekin aap jaise log iit madras jaise institutions se padhkar bhi dusri streams apna lete hain
Nahi to indigenous designs bhi hum bana hi lete
Chahe wo wande bharat ho ya koi jet engine
Agreed
The joint venture is made on the wrong terms 75:25 ratio. Secondly the majority stake should be with RVNL.
It's a mistake by Indian railways. Were they sleeping at the time of making a deal?
Being an indian ...I feel bad....If indian cannot help it friend- Russia with man force ....atleast India should help them in financial form...
It is wrong to make bargain at their rough time..
bruhh u innocent af
No surprise any deal with Russia will have many problems India should have learned it long time ago ... Never deal with Russians ...very surprise that India cud not build it on their own ... still time to scuttle this deal ...
This is happening because deal was signed by IAS officer who has no knowledge of manufacturing process
Isme IR ko interior design pasand nahi aaya kyun ki IR standardised design har rake me maintain karna chahta hai. Isiliye train design me aur kuch months lagega.. however the project is not delayed.
Why didn't IR have brains why they signed initial contract
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Wonderful Russian government 👏👏
Thanks for this behaviour.
Mr Putin u really proved that u r an ally of Trump Mr tariff president
Indian railways should have made a deal with france,since france makes one of the best trains in the world.we should only restrict to defence deals with russia.
Indian Govt Babus knows to muddy , delay & cost overruns everything
Price will certainly change.
See.... U are Adding Components.. It will need Design Change, weight accumulation.. Certainly it needs cost.. What's the matter??
Bath karo problem solve karo project fastley forward karo . Ground action start karo
It’s a smart way to pay Russia for other purchases that we secretly made 😬 just kidding!
Waa kya batt hai ek train vi design nahi kar paye india
So where is another person wrong
It’s true if you need design changes obviously price go higher
Very amateaurish way of inking the deal by Indian railways because they failed to hammer out the details on the specifications of the coaches to be made at the onset.
MAKE IN INDIA
Make in India ka narrative gaya gaya tha media dwara
To America jet engine delivered ho gaya tejas wale. 😂😂😂😂😂. Mila kar bat hai ye hai ki sab apni sochte hai..
Why no make in india???
😂😂 har gajah wahiyat decision liya jata h to bhugto .wahi decision 5th generation fighter jets m liya gaya .aaj tak koinaata pata nahi h lagta h 2040se pahle koi prototypes nahi aayega wahi other countries working 7th generation technology p😂😂😂😂
So these trains are Russian technology. Just made here.
Mujhe lagta design banane ke liye hame russa ko dena chahiye guys i mean wo log design jyada modern or better banate hai
Means it's not fully make in India😅😅😅still now
Ek train nahi bana sakte hum visv guru kaise banega
Jab hum kid design kr sakthey he to Russia kiya zarurat he
This dispose ruppes in Vostro account of Russia in india if we added some thing have to cost because of maintenance problem is from our side this burocrat don't know number of coach our all trains
Make in india kaha gaya
Koi aur kyu bana raha hai? Our engineers can do it. Why not MakeInIndia here working?
Sir indian news cover kijiye pls
russian train v achha hi hota hai in terms of sleeper trains
Russian standard doesn't fit indian rail. We need 3rd class coaches where weldings and design r 1980s era LHB WITH STEEL BODY😂😂
LBH is a German design.
Just cancelled it
Who cancelled it Mr. Rice bag?
Where is make in india😩
Make in india means make in india not whole design and r&d in india
@@nuppanuppa Thats not a very good deal is it? If other countries stop giving us stuff during war or sanctions who are we gonna turn to?...
@@Game_Reaper its JV so indian engineers learn too. Tho it takes time to make that final product
@@nuppanuppa We are too far away from our aim and this can be remedied if we invite foreign engineers to manufacture weapons for us like Project babylon. Our education system is ensuring we can not develop indigenious technology.
@@Game_Reaper True
😂😂 made in india
Vande Bharat is a con
Vishwaguru india cannot even make trains boggy
Political or ideological rivalry has made you blind. Think about India first, and shed chaplusi..
Its a fact that India never had technology to make modern trains. When I say never, it means never, including those 50 years. So just appreciate that something good is happening now. A developing cannot do everything on its on., but something is happening, be it with the help of foreing companies, is good for the country. So be happy.
Akkal na ho to bhokna nhi chahiye. Itna asan hai to tu banake dede hutiye
In international relations- there is no permanent friend and nor permanent enemy.
Mai first
Tumko toh Bharat ratna milna chaheye
😂😂😂@@Deadshot-fq9nh
@@Deadshot-fq9nh I would also prefer Padma vibhushan and Padma bhushan. But then your call
Cancel deal..... If they do not agree to our terms
Our passenger coach design has not been much to brag about.
Achcha, toh Vande Bharat mei bhi utna hi Bharat hai jitna Brahmos , Arihant aur Vikrant mei !!!
Sab itna asan hai to aap banake dedo😂😂. America to advnced hai fir manufacturing china me kyo krta hain. Thoda jaano pehle😂😂
Nothing wrong in what the kinet has said, this is a technical blunder by Indian railways. The technical people will understand that their statements are correct. Luggage and extra toilet will require extensive redesigning.
So it’s swadesi?
Ek to dhang ka fighter craft ka design dhang se ban nahi rhaa. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Banani ha to technology khud se viksit kro nahi wo nahi karenge inko color me interest hai design me interest hai....😂😂
Khud ka aircraft k engine me focus kro pahele.... Ya uska bhi design alag chahiyee😂😂😂😂
जय श्री राम प्रधान मंत्री श्री नरेंद्र मोदी जी सरकार भारतीय जनता भारत राज्य की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो के लिए बहुत अच्छे जरूरी सम्मानित प्रधान मंत्री श्री नरेंद्र मोदी जी सरकार 2024 में भी तीसरा बार मोदी जी सरकार हाँ सच बोलते हें पिएम मोदी जी सरकार उन्होने अपनी इंडिया यानी भारत सुन्दर भव्य बनायेगे पिएम मोदी जी सरकार रूस विदेश पहले वंदे भारत ट्रेन के डिजाइन बनाता था जिसमें भारत ने रेड लाइन मार्क किया है जिसमें वो बनाने के लिए 5500 करोड़ रू की मांग कि जिससे भारत ने मना कर दियें वो अब डिजाइन खुद बनायेंगे जिससे हमारे भारत देश को विकास होगा यानी फायदा होगा हाँ हमारे भारत राज्य देश की मजबूती विकास विक्सित लाने मे आगे बढाने मे भारत देश की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो की सुधार सुरक्षा सुरक्षित अच्छे सुन्दर बनायें रखने मे देश मे अच्छे बदलाव लाने बढाने मे सहियोग मदद मे हम सभी भारत देशवासियो गरीबों के लिए अमुम्किन काम भी मुम्किन बना कर पुरी भारत राज्य की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो में बहुत ज्यादा तरक्की विक्सित आगे बढाने मे ALL INDIA यानी पुरी भारत में मेगाबरे पोज्यक्ट खर्च किए हें वर्तमान मे कर ही रहे हैं हाँ MÈGA TOP PROJECT बना कर दिखायें हें हाँ पिएम मोदी जी सरकार हाँ भारत विकासशील हो रहा है भारत विकास होगा पिएम मोदी जी सरकार आयेंगे तो विकास विक्सित होगा अच्छे इमनदार महान ज्ञानी पुरूष देशभक्त मोदी जी सरकार हें हम सभी भारत देशवासियो गरीबों के लिए बहुत अच्छे जरूरी महान धार्मिक दयालु सम्मानित व्यतीत हे देशभक्त मोदी जी सरकार पिएम मोदी जी सरकार रूस विदेश की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो की और रूस विदेश मास्को राजधानी आफिस की लोक सभा चुनाव मे वोट मोदी जी सरकार को मिला है रूपनारायण पुर पक्षमि बंगाल राज्य की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो की और कलकत्ता राजधानी आफिस की लोक सभा चुनाव मे वोट मोदी जी सरकार को मिला है ALL INDIA यानी पुरी भारत राज्य की सभी जिला की राज्यो देशो की और दिल्ली संसद भवन राष्ट्रपति भवन लालकिला भाजपा आफिस भारत मंडपम मैंदान पुरी दिल्ली राजधानी आफिस की लोक सभा चुनाव मे वोट मोदी जी सरकार को मिला है भारत देश की सभी विदेश की बंगाल की बांग्लादेश की पाकिस्तान देश की पुरी दुनिया की सभी राज्य की जिला की राज्यो देशो की लोक सभा चुनाव मे वोट मोदी जी सरकार को मिला है भारत माता की जय 🙏🙏भारत विश्र्व की सबसे बरा नेता लोकप्रिय यशस्वी प्रधान मंत्री श्री नरेंद्र मोदी जी सरकार औरों सभी राष्टपति नेता नागरिक देश विदेश की नेता नागरिक जनजाति आदिवासी विदेशियों भारत देशवासियो सभी को बहुत बहुत हार्दिक बधाई एवं शुभकामनाऐ मिले धन्यवाद् पिएम मोदी जी सरकार को मान सम्मान स्वागत अभिनन्दन हो उन्हें भी बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद् भारत सभी राज्यो देशो पुरी दुनिया के लिए जरूरी बहुत अच्छे महान पुरूष देशभक्त B J P मोदी जी सरकार जिन्दाबाद जयहिन्द जयभारत भारतभाग्यविधाता पुज्यनिय सादरप्रणाम