I remember playing this when it first came out and the second level slicers always getting stuck behind the barrier and instantly losing every single time Good times
Man it's almost like these were made with a skill tree in mind and then they got lazy and just shipped the hard ass content without it what a thought, absolutely wild
The skill trees had special abilities, you can actually see these abilities in the halloween sanctuary event. Reindhardt for example shoots fire from his hammer swings, can redirct ally damage to his shield, become immune while charging, and his fire launch thing leaves behind a path of molten magma, like torbs ult. mei for example had the ability that her ice block if she did while moving became a snowball allowing her to roll through enemies to damage and slow them, and her ice wall would deal damage to nearby enemies and explode for more damage on death. that is why they were so difficult to work with, setting up MULTIPLE options for every single heroes abilities that make them feel new and unique. They coulda done it, but obviously it seemed to just not work, so they butchered it and kinda used some of the leftovers here and there.
we shouldnt have to argue about whether this multibillion dollar company has the resources to make this project feasible because the answer is that they DO, full stop. there are whole workshop modes worked on by individuals FOR NO PAY. and its way more impressive than this coop mission drop. need something to scratch the itch? LITERALLY just play borderlands, the definition of 'looter-shooter'. heroes, skill trees, both character and global progression, has that same feel of a lot of different systems interacting that makes it so interesting to play around with. oh and not to mention its great sense of style. consensus on borderlands 3 is that the story falls flat, but is overall more polished than borderlands 2 which has a great story. also 2 is cheaper now its like 20 bucks on steam the skill tree only needs to take whats already there and define a niche. it doesnt have to mean complicated abilities, it can be just stat changes to make it viable to follow a certain playstyle. brig but tankier brawler, soldier but support, lucio but dive dps, ramattra but rebalanced to be fully nemesis form, mercy but blue beam can enervate enemies. all of these would be possible with JUST some tweaks to whats already there
Yeah no matter the excuse I don't see how making new animations for pre existing characters would be more difficult than making a new one. Instead of making a new ability, or literally just passive skills, it is easier to make new lore for a new big and important character, a character design to please your fans after your most recent scandal, 4 entirely new abilities that also need entirely new animations on the new character who you just created, and also a unique primary weapon that isn't too similar to everybody else. I don't believe that for a second.
i feel like i missed something, didnt Blizzard announce with great gusto that this shit wasnt gonna happen and everybody flipped out that, the main selling point of this game being actually different was that it would have a story mode, wasnt even gonna be a thing?
They did. If you're confused about the mode, it's not that campaign mode they promised and kept leading us on with, it's the shitty little side mode that's just Archives but worse.
So, to chime in with the skill tree discussion I can't believe that making Existing Skill Upgrades can be too hard. Programming them, perhaps, but making them up doesn't seem too hard. Now I'm not a developer, which is why I say Programming them might be hard. But I am a custom content creator for different things. The reason I say making existing skill upgrades aren't too hard is because this is a PvE Mode. I get there does need to be challenge, but upgrades are designed to lessen the challenge. Think about Roguelike games. They're designed to be easy at the start when you have little to no upgrades and get progressively harder with each stage or time passing. They design simple upgrades for early like attack speed, heal on kill, explosion on kill - then more complex upgrades to finalize builds. The point I'm making is the majority of the skill tree (Maybe about 50-60% depending on the actual amount of them) can be about stat upgrades: Tanks having Barrier Upgrades, DPS having Reload speed or Critical Damage multiplier, Supports having shorter CDs or healing power. Then near the bottom, you specialize your abilities like how it was once showcased (Reinhardt's ult hits in a circle rather than cone, His Firestrike causes an explosion on targets killed, He can charge up to 5 enemies at a time - All as an example for one character) This was a rant, I may reply to some comments, but really this was just my opinion - If you do or don't take it seriously, I don't want a full on rage war spamming me out for the next month.
The other day I replayed the paraiso mission on legendary and waited a full hour in queue. cant believe i wasted my money on this when i have risk of rain 2
Whats more dissapointing is that more missions doesn't seem to be on their radar rn considering nothing about it was mentioned at ALL during blizz con 🫠 cant even play it w.o a 4 stack either sadly
Funny how the free Halloween event is beter then the paid story missions
Salty and Teddy is the crossover I never knew I needed
yeah L Teddy seems to love overwatch as always
If only it had happened before
@@RedL1keRoses7 about that dont look at any haloween content ^^ (ik its sarcasm )
Eddy and Salty together feels like two ol' buddies of mine meeting each other, and they immediately like each other.
Watching Phish and Eddy doing the pve missions is surprisingly enjoyable. Hope y’all do more soon
I remember playing this when it first came out and the second level slicers always getting stuck behind the barrier and instantly losing every single time Good times
Ending it with a cold "This is a bad game" is so unbearably funny
“This is a bad game” Yup always has been.
the laugh of that r3tro guy everytime eddy makes a joke cracks me up
Can't believe you gotta pay for that shit
Overwatch 2 really is the spookiest thing he could've shown us.
Man it's almost like these were made with a skill tree in mind and then they got lazy and just shipped the hard ass content without it what a thought, absolutely wild
The skill trees had special abilities, you can actually see these abilities in the halloween sanctuary event.
Reindhardt for example shoots fire from his hammer swings, can redirct ally damage to his shield, become immune while charging, and his fire launch thing leaves behind a path of molten magma, like torbs ult.
mei for example had the ability that her ice block if she did while moving became a snowball allowing her to roll through enemies to damage and slow them, and her ice wall would deal damage to nearby enemies and explode for more damage on death.
that is why they were so difficult to work with, setting up MULTIPLE options for every single heroes abilities that make them feel new and unique.
They coulda done it, but obviously it seemed to just not work, so they butchered it and kinda used some of the leftovers here and there.
With any hope, of which I have none, maybe Microsoft buying them will give them a swift kick in the ass to fix shit
we shouldnt have to argue about whether this multibillion dollar company has the resources to make this project feasible because the answer is that they DO, full stop.
there are whole workshop modes worked on by individuals FOR NO PAY. and its way more impressive than this coop mission drop.
need something to scratch the itch? LITERALLY just play borderlands, the definition of 'looter-shooter'. heroes, skill trees, both character and global progression, has that same feel of a lot of different systems interacting that makes it so interesting to play around with. oh and not to mention its great sense of style.
consensus on borderlands 3 is that the story falls flat, but is overall more polished than borderlands 2 which has a great story. also 2 is cheaper now its like 20 bucks on steam
the skill tree only needs to take whats already there and define a niche. it doesnt have to mean complicated abilities, it can be just stat changes to make it viable to follow a certain playstyle. brig but tankier brawler, soldier but support, lucio but dive dps, ramattra but rebalanced to be fully nemesis form, mercy but blue beam can enervate enemies. all of these would be possible with JUST some tweaks to whats already there
@@chriskoloski32honestly? I’d prefer a garbage game over Microsoft buying up another major company and continuing their monopoly rampage.
I miss the lootboxes. Was easier to get skins that way. Lootbox system was better than this season pass system.
"Hey so were canceling PVE content"
"WTF BLIZZ THIS SUCKS WHATS THE POINT OF OW2 THEN!?"
"JK here are your missions theyre dog crap"
i call bs that making a new hero is easier than making skill trees
Yeah no matter the excuse I don't see how making new animations for pre existing characters would be more difficult than making a new one.
Instead of making a new ability, or literally just passive skills, it is easier to make new lore for a new big and important character, a character design to please your fans after your most recent scandal, 4 entirely new abilities that also need entirely new animations on the new character who you just created, and also a unique primary weapon that isn't too similar to everybody else.
I don't believe that for a second.
That L4D song at the end 🤌
Has Eddy done a video playing Deep Rock Galactic before? With mod customization and how good the game is already, he might really enjoy it.
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE!?
@@danyf7429 Hell yeah! Rock and stone!
Stock and rone!
If you dont rock and stone, you aint comin home
Its like watching people slam their heads against a wall over and over again to see if they can break it
Wait this is my first Lt Eddy video in literal years
No, I'm not going back. Blizzard made their bed and they must lie in it.
SaltyPhish collab go APOCALYPTIC
i feel like i missed something, didnt Blizzard announce with great gusto that this shit wasnt gonna happen and
everybody flipped out that, the main selling point of this game being actually different was that it would have a story mode,
wasnt even gonna be a thing?
They did. If you're confused about the mode, it's not that campaign mode they promised and kept leading us on with, it's the shitty little side mode that's just Archives but worse.
Blizzard thought it was a good idea to get players to pay 15 dollars for three missions, huh?
Nothing but milking money out of players, that's sad.
Reinhardt bot was carrying for a good bit ngl
20 Euros in Europe... for 3 / 4 missions... what a scam
And from what I know, can't even replay missions with all characters. Just great.
My guy is so out of the overwatch loop that he doesn't even have music playin in the background for his video lol god overwatch what have you become
"Remember... No Canadian." ..that does take place in Canada after all
So, to chime in with the skill tree discussion
I can't believe that making Existing Skill Upgrades can be too hard. Programming them, perhaps, but making them up doesn't seem too hard.
Now I'm not a developer, which is why I say Programming them might be hard. But I am a custom content creator for different things.
The reason I say making existing skill upgrades aren't too hard is because this is a PvE Mode. I get there does need to be challenge, but upgrades are designed to lessen the challenge. Think about Roguelike games. They're designed to be easy at the start when you have little to no upgrades and get progressively harder with each stage or time passing.
They design simple upgrades for early like attack speed, heal on kill, explosion on kill - then more complex upgrades to finalize builds.
The point I'm making is the majority of the skill tree (Maybe about 50-60% depending on the actual amount of them) can be about stat upgrades: Tanks having Barrier Upgrades, DPS having Reload speed or Critical Damage multiplier, Supports having shorter CDs or healing power.
Then near the bottom, you specialize your abilities like how it was once showcased (Reinhardt's ult hits in a circle rather than cone, His Firestrike causes an explosion on targets killed, He can charge up to 5 enemies at a time - All as an example for one character)
This was a rant, I may reply to some comments, but really this was just my opinion - If you do or don't take it seriously, I don't want a full on rage war spamming me out for the next month.
Yeah, I don't buy Blizzard's excuse that they just couldn't do it.
They know damn well they could, they just didn't want to actually try.
PVE? OW2? STORE? Come on Eddy, let's spend $200 on lootboxes
RIP Reinheart bot
Eddy, we passed like 2-3 battle passes since this dropped. WHATS GOING ON MAN
wym this is from last season
as one of the last pve players doing the sojourn mission on expert alone is literall hell
The other day I replayed the paraiso mission on legendary and waited a full hour in queue. cant believe i wasted my money on this when i have risk of rain 2
3 Years for the equivalent of 3 archives missions, which might I add are normally free...
Can't wait for the second release of the campaign next year and hopefully they won't charge us for it again 😅
Blizzard. "you come to me! on the day of my daughters wedding?! AND EXPECT FREE CONTENT?!"
Yeah we waited 3 years for this.... I miss your old fun overwatch vids !
Man I Miss The Old Days... 😢
Did you have to pay more money for a couple story missions that were 3 years in the making and still bugged at points?
12 missed heroes for this :)
Boycott Blizzard.
Omg my group just got nullifier and I couldn't be more disappointed in us
Teddy in Canada?!
yoo phish was stuck on toronto too ? this mission is HELL
i was ligit about to play overwach i saw this in my recomendead and sead naaa
Free Underworld mossion is better IMO, it even have some randomnes in bot spawning.
Rein bot MVP
Screw Overwatch.
who is the one with the argentinian flag as a profilepocture in ow
I'm sorry was that teamspeak in 2023???? ._.
Nah, it's Discord.
im bot rein, or i would be if i wanted to play the game
Eddy stop giving overwatch ur money man, don’t support that
Whats more dissapointing is that more missions doesn't seem to be on their radar rn considering nothing about it was mentioned at ALL during blizz con 🫠 cant even play it w.o a 4 stack either sadly
Unironically tho the dc bots are pretty decent like, often better than half the players i get
Screw Overwatch.