Build Your Own Mana Rocks! | Svella, Ice Shaper | Troll | Kaldheim Spoiler | EDH | MTG | Commander

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Комментарии • 179

  • @ComradeVenus
    @ComradeVenus 3 года назад +72

    This card seems like a less broken golos that also gives you the ability to make manaliths.
    I like it

    • @demonzero677
      @demonzero677 3 года назад

      That's because that's exactly what it is, budget Golos since 6RG is a lot easier to manage with budget cards then 2WUBRG.

  • @Slaughter24
    @Slaughter24 3 года назад +65

    Me: Hey guys, I'm playing a lot of land destruction in this new deck I built that doesn't really effect me at all.
    Playgroup: We kill him first, agreed.

    • @facelessgames94
      @facelessgames94 3 года назад +4

      Many have tried.
      Many more will fail.

    • @bloodyjester4284
      @bloodyjester4284 3 года назад +2

      I sneak my LD under the radar. It's about the only way to win playing Mono White

    • @Slaughter24
      @Slaughter24 3 года назад

      @@bloodyjester4284 that's true

    • @demonzero677
      @demonzero677 3 года назад +2

      you never announce you're playing Land destroy. You play it, then bust out the most broken raid boss decks you have cuz you're getting hate forever.

    • @Slaughter24
      @Slaughter24 3 года назад +4

      @@demonzero677 I was pointing out the irony from when he said, "talk to your playgroup about playing land destruction"

  • @ChronoBolt
    @ChronoBolt 3 года назад +54

    Welcome to Svella's Build-a-Rock Workshop. We have one rock in stock, costs (3)

    • @sharlockshacolmes9381
      @sharlockshacolmes9381 3 года назад +4

      I ship Svella and Toggo, a love of rocks that transcend planes and races.

  • @blakemcgill880
    @blakemcgill880 3 года назад +52

    Definitely going to be a favorite commander of mine. What a sweet design.

    • @Beefjerkey12345
      @Beefjerkey12345 3 года назад

      Same. Only losing to vandalblast and by Force has always been fun

  • @wademiller2376
    @wademiller2376 3 года назад +13

    I'm more impressed by the super strong uncommon legendaries so far than many of the rare or mythics

  • @MaxPwnzer
    @MaxPwnzer 3 года назад +5

    So there's a funny thing with this.
    Heartstone, any token doubler/static ability copier like Illusionist's Bracers and Umbral Mantle. Infinite manaliths. If you have Altar of the Brood or something like Reckless Fireweaver, you win

  • @mattwcook9127
    @mattwcook9127 3 года назад +4

    I've been wanting to build a Gruul commander deck, but haven't been too keen on any of my options. This may very well be the one I've been waiting for

  • @hunterahlstrand7419
    @hunterahlstrand7419 3 года назад +34

    This guy trolltally rocks!!!

  • @NerdJake
    @NerdJake 3 года назад +2

    Nice! I can finally build a real Troll deck! Mass land destruction without wincon that will just make games go forever and annoy anyone at the table, yet yet trolling around with my troll commander, I love it! I'd only take it out if the other players at the table piss me off though.

  • @gabrielbel3440
    @gabrielbel3440 3 года назад +6

    I really recommend the card
    Quest for Renewal 1G (G=Green)
    Whenever a creature you control becomes tapped, you may put a quest counter on Quest for Renewal.
    As long as there are four or more quest counters on Quest for Renewal, untap all creatures you control during each other player’s untap step.

  • @grumpyinbrooklyn6347
    @grumpyinbrooklyn6347 3 года назад +1

    I was not aware of this card until I pulled it from my prerelease kit! I immediately thought that it should make for a cool Gruul "Golos Lite" kind of deck.

  • @Taisuru
    @Taisuru 3 года назад +2

    I would LOVE a deck tech for this in the future!

  • @aznChewE
    @aznChewE 3 года назад +2

    Im doing a cube like system with Svella for when I can play in person with friends again! Gonna have a base deck and load a bunch of cubamajigs with thematic packs and letting my friends randomly pick what goes in my deck so when I rip 4 off the top we're all surprised! We did it with Mael super long ago :')

  • @Milner-Barry
    @Milner-Barry 3 года назад +12

    Svella seems pretty interesting

  • @Oopsall
    @Oopsall 3 года назад +4

    Remember to include your Heartstones to turn manaliths into arcane signets!

  • @777CrimsonChaos
    @777CrimsonChaos 3 года назад +6

    Even with the Mystery Booster reprint it’s not quite budget, but Braid of Fire would also be so good in this deck.

    • @johnbuscher
      @johnbuscher 3 года назад +2

      I knew my copy of Braid of Fire would come in handy! Now if only I could justify having Braid of Fire and Leyline tyrant in the same deck.

    • @demonzero677
      @demonzero677 3 года назад

      @@johnbuscher I mean the above isn't a bad commander to use both. throw in classic omnath and all your red and green mana will just stockpile. Build up to machinegun your commander's ability for all the castings.

  • @tinosdragatsis
    @tinosdragatsis 3 года назад +86

    Wizards is really pushing commander with such powerful uncommon legendary creatures.

    • @ChronoBolt
      @ChronoBolt 3 года назад +8

      I'm definitely ok with this.

    • @thenussix
      @thenussix 3 года назад +21

      the thing is, many/most of the Uncommon Commanders are more narrow, buildaround commanders instead of genericaly good ones, which i really love, since it really allows you to do different things instead of having to play the same thing over and over again

    • @maxkuit8712
      @maxkuit8712 3 года назад +9

      Better than the powerfull mythics that are 20 euro's a piece

    • @rexone9564
      @rexone9564 3 года назад +5

      Turns out commander is the most played format and always will be.

    • @crabmtg9179
      @crabmtg9179 3 года назад +1

      My thoughts exactly

  • @jeffnorris211
    @jeffnorris211 3 года назад +2

    I’m gonna turn this into a spellslinger deck. Seems awesome!

  • @xgxwills2857
    @xgxwills2857 3 года назад +2

    It feels vaguely like a Gruul Kinnan. I see this thing being a blast to play in casual and easy to build on a very low budget

    • @0w3n42
      @0w3n42 3 года назад

      It reminded me of kinnen too because of the rocks and the sink

  • @airistal
    @airistal 3 года назад +1

    Hellkite tyrant's win condition loves artifacts including token ones.

  • @ernie.zer0
    @ernie.zer0 3 года назад +1

    Going to put him into my Ghired deck. Especially as Doubling Season/Parallel Lives/Anointed Procession would give a lot of rocks!

    • @dariocampanella7992
      @dariocampanella7992 3 года назад

      I was thinking that it would be nice to have him in the 99 of ghired.

  • @nanya524
    @nanya524 3 года назад +2

    Doubling Season or other token doubles is crazy good with this

  • @Mulletdog1
    @Mulletdog1 3 года назад +1

    I want to build/ solve this commander. Gruul was my original color combo. This is so unique I feel like I can’t ignore it

  • @guilhermeviana3669
    @guilhermeviana3669 3 года назад +1

    Well, the commander's second ability let you cast the spell without pay the mana value. So Artisan of Kozilek can work with Svella's second ability.

  • @whatez9448
    @whatez9448 3 года назад

    The idea I have for this deck is Manabarbs and stuff like Furnace of Raath in order to boost the damage up. With a few cards it is easy to get it up to 12+ I have gotten it to 144.

  • @lastdracon
    @lastdracon 3 года назад

    Maybe with a bunch of rocks in play you untap, bane of progress while tapping out all rocks, cast something like fling, while on stack cast as many copy spell effects. Then you get multiple fling effects off what would be a huge B.o.p. who gonna bop your opponents hard.
    Or bunch of rocks, the dragon that dies pay R to burn opponent. Kill it via fling effect again or a ashnod alter

  • @oliviersoable
    @oliviersoable 3 года назад +1

    Thumps up WOTC! The manalith productions seem pretty good and fun.

  • @TonyScimeca
    @TonyScimeca 3 года назад +13

    I don’t think Mass Land Destruction with this commander breaks the social contract too much. Basically if you’re blowing up all the lands, you’re gonna win the game.
    Where MLD sucks is when it simply grinds the game to a halt and adds an hour and half to the game time

  • @hoppeltrottel7484
    @hoppeltrottel7484 3 года назад

    Quest for Renewal and Thousand-Year Elixir are also noteworthy. Maybe Scryb Ranger, too.

  • @iforget9694
    @iforget9694 3 года назад +2

    What about a win condition with Rampage of the clans?

  • @jordanpearson6446
    @jordanpearson6446 3 года назад

    Illusionist's bracers to generator 2 tokens instead, token doubling effects, and heart stone. Throw it in the 99 of Temur deck for Intruder Alarm, Biomancer's Familiar, and Training Grounds.

  • @enermatrix4053
    @enermatrix4053 3 года назад

    Dictate of Karametra is a budget card but does affect all players with its mana doubling ability. Means your mana rocks also tap for twice as much so hopefully able to ramp faster than the opponents with it.

  • @xzero7378
    @xzero7378 2 года назад

    i made this commander and it is honestly the one i have the most fun with.

  • @autobotjazz1972
    @autobotjazz1972 3 года назад +1

    well well great commander but i may use it inthe 99 of my Xenagos god of revels deck to help cast all the big bois in there.

  • @jimmyrivera1830
    @jimmyrivera1830 3 года назад +3

    I made a deck with svella literally the moment she was spoiled

  • @sharlockshacolmes9381
    @sharlockshacolmes9381 3 года назад

    Don not forget that they're snow manarocks, so something like connifer wurm or any othe big snow payoff might be good if you go for going wide with manalith tokens.

  • @Closer2Zero
    @Closer2Zero 3 года назад +2

    I dont have a good reason why, but this card makes me wanna build it with the “Create a rock you can throw at targets” partner commander from commander legends

    • @kusanagi54321
      @kusanagi54321 3 года назад

      Rock Tribal

    • @makotoxchihiroyaoifangirl8409
      @makotoxchihiroyaoifangirl8409 3 года назад

      @@kusanagi54321 Nah this is manalith tribal, if you want rock tribal the commander you need is Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith. He is the master of making rocks.

  • @casteanpreswyn7528
    @casteanpreswyn7528 3 года назад +16

    "So...we all know this can be easily broken, right?" "Well yeah, thats the point!" "So we are gonna make this a mythic, right?" "Nah, fuck that, commander isnt an official format, fuck em, uncommon!"
    100% a conversation R&D had to have had.

    • @Nicayle
      @Nicayle 3 года назад +10

      I mean, rarity is a kind of weird idea anyway, by artificially making important cards hard to get. If it really just was to maintain a limited format, then why do set boosters not just have 15 random cards from the set, no matter what rarity, for the same price as draft boosters, and double masters would never have happened

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 3 года назад +1

      @@Nicayle I mean, if that was the case they couldn't make the majority of mythics and rares trash red or white cards. Lol

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 3 года назад +1

      @@Nicayle also, double masters was a bullshit set that had an inflated price for no legitimate reason, like all the masters sets.

  • @budgetdeckmastermtg2144
    @budgetdeckmastermtg2144 3 года назад

    I got the foil alternate art version of this card in my prerelease kit.

  • @TheHellsing612
    @TheHellsing612 3 года назад

    Definitely would put this in the 99 of a Nikya deck though. Good way to get ramp in a deck that has little to no artifacts and ramp spells.

  • @PossibilityStormGuy
    @PossibilityStormGuy 3 года назад

    I recommend instill energy because it also gives haste

  • @theinvisiblegentleman1142
    @theinvisiblegentleman1142 3 года назад

    I got a showcase svella and a goldspan dragon in the same pack. Hell of a pull.

  • @choppyhen
    @choppyhen 3 года назад +4

    What about a doubling season to get two tokens?

    • @Draco9909
      @Draco9909 3 года назад

      If you have the money for it then put it in. Mitch didn't mention it cause it's definitely not a budget option.

  • @Sandilini
    @Sandilini 3 года назад +6

    Mayael doesn’t know how to feel about this.

    • @hoppeltrottel7484
      @hoppeltrottel7484 3 года назад

      My Mayael is happy to have him in the 99.
      Her companion, Zirda, is happy too.

  • @targetdreamer257
    @targetdreamer257 3 года назад

    In this situation when they talk about cards no mentions;
    Thran Turbine. Artifact 1 to cast and "At the beginning of your upkeep, you may add 2 colorless. You can't spend this mana to cast spells."
    So with just that your are making one mana rock on your turn for one mana. Plus as of this comment it is only like $2.60. I guess it depends on what your definition of budget

  • @rumor009
    @rumor009 3 года назад

    If you use a green layline from M19 you can make all the mana rocks give you one green mana and one mana of any color .
    You'll have super mana rocks.

  • @saboten9621
    @saboten9621 3 года назад

    Needs haste, inefficient mana rocks, can’t activate multiple times in a turn by itself. Those were my first thoughts on the card, personally they haven’t changed much but I think I can see a few decks that would like it in the 99

  • @TedMattos
    @TedMattos 3 года назад +4

    So we'll start seeing random manaliths appearing everywhere? :)

  • @scottdusenbery2278
    @scottdusenbery2278 3 года назад

    Surprised no mention of instill energy or natures chosen. Both are great untappers in green and are pretty budget. both under a dollar, depending on which version for instill energy. Sure they only do it once a turn, but extra redundancy and more mana rocks.

  • @ericsalisbury3583
    @ericsalisbury3583 3 года назад +1

    This is like a kinnon in grull.

  • @Ammuze11
    @Ammuze11 3 года назад

    Put Umbral Mantle and Sculpting Steel in there and you basically go Omniscience with a 1 million/1 million commander beat stick in a single turn.
    Cards: Svella, Illusionist's Bracers, Umbral Mantle, Heartstone, Sculpting Steel, Mana Reflection.
    Put Illusionist's Bracers and Umbral Mantle on Svella and copy Heartstone with Sculpting Steel to have 2 Heartstones.
    Pay 1 to tap Svella and make 2 mana rocks. Tap 1 mana rock for 2 mana. Use 1 and untap Svella to give them +4/+4. Now you have 1 free mana and an unused mana rock.
    Repeat infinitely until you get infinite rocks and just start dumping your deck onto the field.

  • @Milner-Barry
    @Milner-Barry 3 года назад +5

    Hey everybody

  • @cteal2018
    @cteal2018 3 года назад

    Auto include in any 5 color deck?....yea I think so. Kenneth decks and Jodah of the Big Mana Tribe want this.

  • @matuskrivka1462
    @matuskrivka1462 3 года назад

    So glad it's gruul not simic

  • @guthrielinder2555
    @guthrielinder2555 3 года назад

    This wouldn't be possible with Svella as your commander, but in a deck with blue, this would be great with Freed from the Real. Or you could go infinite with Freed from the Real, Doubling Season, and Mana Reflection (not a particularly competetive combo lol but what's more fun than making infinite mana rocks?)

  • @bujkoa
    @bujkoa 3 года назад +9

    Haven’t watched the video yet but I want this in my golos deck!

  • @lordvaust5830
    @lordvaust5830 3 года назад

    This, plus Jorn in a 4 or 5 color snow deck would be crazy.

  • @namki16
    @namki16 3 года назад +1

    In its second ability it says you may cast without paying the mana cost so yeah you get the eldrazi cast trigger 😒

  • @tordek911
    @tordek911 3 года назад

    Definitely going in my ghired deck

  • @weishin
    @weishin 3 года назад

    best spoiler channel ever

  • @invertedghostgames9899
    @invertedghostgames9899 3 года назад

    I love this card. The only thing it's missing is White.

  • @Sokara468
    @Sokara468 3 года назад +1

    You're going to need to rank all these uncommon Commanders when the set is released!

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton 3 года назад

    This is REALLY cool and almost what i'm looking for. if only Svella had Black in his color identity. The reason Golos is so good is mainly because of the access to all five colors which also allows the "Maze's End" win condition in commander so you can win having access to 11 different Gates including 3 cards that can actually tutor for gates (one of which can put 2 of them directly into play). Svella is a great comprimise, i just wish his second ability didn't require him to tap. Why does Golos and Kinon get to do thier thing infinantly but this guy can't?

  • @darthrevan8376
    @darthrevan8376 3 года назад +6

    11 views 22 like uh hu youtube i tottaly belive u

  • @cuckerbuster983
    @cuckerbuster983 3 года назад

    With Kaldheim coming out, I have a ton of different commander deck lists that are all cool. Also with me being a new-ish commander player, I have plenty of other ideas and lists as well. I might have too many, is 30+ commander decks too many?

    • @thegrimmwolf481
      @thegrimmwolf481 3 года назад

      I have almost 150 lists, 30+ is just fine

  • @Blacklighting24
    @Blacklighting24 3 года назад +1

    Is that a specific card in the background at 1:02 or just a collection of different artifacts?

    • @thegrimmwolf481
      @thegrimmwolf481 3 года назад

      Yes to both, the card in question is called Ingenuity Engine from Commander Legends. All of the artifact easter eggs can be seen in this reddit post: www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/jsc5sv/all_artifacts_from_ingenuity_engines_art_yet/?

  • @Naozwc
    @Naozwc 3 года назад +2

    This commander literaly SNOWballs

  • @kylelonnes5833
    @kylelonnes5833 3 года назад

    Storm Cauldron+Citadel of Pain, now all your opponents have the unfortunate decision of choosing to take damage from their untapped lands, or filling their hand with them if they tap for mana. Or there’s Quicksilver Fountain+Power Conduit to turn everybody’s non island lands into islands except for yours, all while slowly buffing your creatures.

  • @ryanoates2310
    @ryanoates2310 3 года назад

    Yay!! Another way to bring out larger Eldrazi!

  • @deacon7519
    @deacon7519 3 года назад

    Balanced not op and still fun and relevant. I really like this design

  • @chihshiangshee9002
    @chihshiangshee9002 3 года назад

    Not sure what they decided this for green as I think this would be great in izzet colors.

  • @BIGxWIGGLY
    @BIGxWIGGLY 3 года назад +1

    Hellkite tyrant easy wincon for this deck

  • @StretchyPlays
    @StretchyPlays 3 года назад

    This commander is sweet but I don't really understand what about him is Gruul. AFAIK, neither red nor green are known for making mana rocks, other than treasure I guess but those aren't permanent and every color can do that to an extent. We've seen the second ability in green sometimes but usually paired with blue. And he shapes ice. What about red uses ice? I'm glad he isn't just another powerful Simic commander, I just don't get why Gruul.

  • @randommindz6782
    @randommindz6782 3 года назад

    .......this is kinnan bonder prodigy for Gruul....and I want it

  • @josephhyde8387
    @josephhyde8387 3 года назад

    This looks awesome

  • @Kasigi03
    @Kasigi03 3 года назад

    Even better than Heartstone is Zirda, Dawnwaker. Double the effect, costs 3 (though a bit tougher but still in this card's color pie) and you get a creature that helps attackers if that's how you want to go. Basalt Monolith paired with Zirda also generates infinite colorless mana.

  • @dif4797
    @dif4797 3 года назад

    Hello there MR AGURK!

  • @birdie123
    @birdie123 3 года назад

    Why is Parallel Lives not being featured?

  • @chrisstrecker9873
    @chrisstrecker9873 3 года назад +29

    Can we just start calling him Gruulos? Please?

  • @envysart797
    @envysart797 3 года назад +3

    Why can’t this be in Boros? Did green need another one of these?

  • @stephengorczyca7624
    @stephengorczyca7624 3 года назад

    If I ask if mld is ok it won’t be a surprise when it happens, everyone love surprises

  • @EDHCoffee
    @EDHCoffee 3 года назад

    Hellkite Tyrant!

  • @l0ker507
    @l0ker507 3 года назад +1

    A weird design for Gruul.

  • @violetvulpine5356
    @violetvulpine5356 3 года назад

    Ashaya, Quirion Ranger, Lotus Cobra, Svella. Infinite Landfall, creature fall, Artifact fall, mana. This is so going in my Gruul token artifact deck.

  • @Someone-lg6di
    @Someone-lg6di 3 года назад

    Could build deck with token synergies

  • @TeamMaleficNature
    @TeamMaleficNature 3 года назад

    Imagine a temur deck running kinnan and svella

  • @Gusta_Gustav
    @Gusta_Gustav 3 года назад +1

    Every day Kaldheim gets better for commander than commander legends

  • @trolleymouse
    @trolleymouse 3 года назад +9

    And not once did you talk about the Snow implications.

  • @pokeliciousnchill2932
    @pokeliciousnchill2932 3 года назад +1

    This guy could get you ahead pretty quickly. Dang this set is just nuts

  • @monkeyman1255
    @monkeyman1255 3 года назад

    Reminds me of Thriss, Nantucko Primus with the whole untap thing

  • @LilSenwolf
    @LilSenwolf 3 года назад

    Seed born gets you 5 a trip around the table

  • @joppe5746
    @joppe5746 3 года назад

    Can you use Svella's second ability on the turn of opponents? Or do you still need the appropriate timing for casting a spell?

    • @craigstege6376
      @craigstege6376 3 года назад

      Creature tap abilities are done at instant/interrupt speed.

    • @craigstege6376
      @craigstege6376 3 года назад

      Usually, I should add. Some of them have specific rules " only when you could cast a sorcery" that as in all cases overrides general rules

  • @LittleHillsTabletop
    @LittleHillsTabletop 3 года назад

    Does Illusionist Bracers work with Svella's deck ability as well? Or does it just cause you to look at the top 4 twice and play only 1?

    • @gustavoramos3989
      @gustavoramos3989 3 года назад +1

      Since it copy the ability, you resolve it looking the 4 cards from the top, chosing 1 card and putting the rest on the bottom, than you resolve the copy looking the 4 cards from the top, chosing 1 and put the rest on the bottom.

  • @MarioGarcia-vk2ne
    @MarioGarcia-vk2ne 3 года назад

    Can you help me build a very budget Atarka deck ? :)

  • @hbot2758
    @hbot2758 3 года назад

    Eldrazi Tribal?

  • @iframe9706
    @iframe9706 3 года назад +1

    Just get a bunch of mana rocks and *Armageddon*

  • @derronbishop4678
    @derronbishop4678 3 года назад +1

    Um well then

  • @johncrossley6945
    @johncrossley6945 3 года назад

    You forgot to mention Instill Energy and Nature's Chosen. Just saying.

  • @Cluis.
    @Cluis. 3 года назад

    Where is Paradox Engine if you need it ...

  • @dangerfield6855
    @dangerfield6855 3 года назад

    Kaldheim:the real commander legends...