The King of the Netherlands is also a pilot, but UNLIKE Charles, King Willem-Alexander is a fully certified 737 line pilot and has flown revenue flights for KLM.
He has in fact flown hundreds of KLM flights initially on Fokker 70/100 aircraft and now the 737. He’s a very civilised guy and very competent. He always flies from the RHS with an instructor even though he is fully type rated.
King Charles learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was QUALIFIED TO FLY a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146 NO of course he wasn't a Comnmercial Pilot but he WAS QUALIFIED to fly the type
Hawaii had a legislator who was a regular Aloha pilot ( I think it was Aloha). But I'm certain he had to do all of the training that regular line pilots were required to do.
Moral: let the people work who know what they are doing. Everyone else should limit themselves to simulators. Thank God, only the taxpayers had to pay for this madness. The royal billions were not touched.
I worked as a Locomotive Engineer and was always plagued with riders (management, VIPs, customer's owners and shareholders) who wanted to sit in the seat and operate. I had to always say this is not a video game snd if you think it is simple I will stop and get off and you can give it a go.These types of things are not toys!
I was working as a civilian contractor on an RAF base in the UK and on the back of the toilet stall doors was a cartoon with the base commander asking to take the controls of a plane and the pilot having to deny him. It is CRM taught in the RAF - the pilot is in command no matter if some one higher rank tells him to do something. He might have to answer for his decision once he lands, but at least his plane will be in one piece.
@@spvillano, Always, unless you are established and stable, or you don't like what you see or how it feels, it is always 'Go Around'. One of the first things you are taught when you start learning to fly, my instructor called a go around on my second landing (at my 3.5 hr mark, 4th flight), for no reason other than to see how I reacted to the call. 😂🇦🇺
I can just see the headlines now "First British subject in over XX years to be executed for disobeying the king". The fact anyone would hand over the controls just because someone is 'king' or 'the boss' is just absurd to me.
@@sgt.gunslinger1532 at the time, he wasn't king. His mum was still happily polishing the throne as little as possible, preferring to consult in council and drive herself around on her own properties. And being retired US Army, who worked with a lot of joint forces, including FVEY forces, the captain likely would've been given a commendation - by the Prince himself. It sounds more like a day of intracranial flatulence in the cockpit all around. Likely due to the enemy of all life, complacency. We've all done it, most learn from it and avoid it like the death plague it can become. What the Clown Prince should have done was, once he realized he wasn't stabilized and especially, had he failed to notice that Helen Keller level visible event, when he couldn't get the ass end down, he should've went TOGA. Even with 500 meters of road remaining, the aircraft's performance envelope would've easily allowed it. For a passenger bird, it's quite nimble in the energy envelope. And likely why he turned in his wings. If I accrued that long a chain of errors in judgement, I could no longer trust my judgement again either.
Islay is said like Eye-la, one of our many islands, and the report will say His Royal Highness as that’s part of his official title/style as royalty (so like HRH Prince of Wales, HMTQ for Her Majesty The Queen), and good luck finding a written report anywhere online as it is restricted! You’d need to send a freedom of information request and you wouldn’t even be guaranteed to get a copy, if you did get a copy I’ve no doubt most of it would be redacted anyway! Nice to see one of our obscure aviation incidents in Scotland, always one that’s highly amused me. Totally agree that rank/title does not matter in aviation, nobody should’ve cared that the Prince of Wales wanted to fly, he should’ve been told “no”. In saying that, Charles was never gunna be blamed for this incident.
And furthermore he has many titles, but "King of England" is definitely not one of them. He is, unsurprisingly, king of the Kingdom - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
He is also Lord of the Isles, a title he has honoured very well spending a lot of time in the Hebrides and the Highlands. He is not the King of England!! How hard is it to do a bit of research before posting?
This is something almost everyone gets confused about-the difference between RANK and APPOINTMENT. A private solider on sentry duty, for example. Who has command of the situation? The private, or a Field Marshall or General? If you didn't say the Private you would be wrong, it is the appointment and task at hand that matters. Why does it matter? It is the duty of the person assigned as guard and sentry to challenge anyone and everyone who approaches his post. That is why if the guard is proven negligent [for example falls asleep], he can face severe punishment for his or her detraction of duty. We can see the logic of this. A surprise enemy attack may try to penetrate the defenses, perhaps by impersonating a general. it is the sentry's duty to try to prevent that from happening, or many people could die and the army be defeated. Indeed a good officer should complement a conscientious sentry for doing his duty, even if that sticking to procedure inconvenienced that officer. Back to the aircraft. The aircraft captain is the aircraft captain, irrespective of rank. If the Air Chief Marshal, the King or god himself has a higher rank, it is totally irrelevant. And sure, the senior officer can relieve the junior officer of his post, but then it has to be for cause, not following the rules. In the case of the Aircraft captain, once the plane is on the ground and rendered safe, and in case of the sentry, after he is relived of his duty as sentry. That is how this works. Actually, Prince Charles, as the ranking officer is responsible, not the captain. Because he interfered with the officer doing his appointed duties. Charles was not appointed to fly the aircraft, the captain and first officer were. And to get the appointment to fly the plane legally, he would have to done type training and passed assessment. This is how the rule of law is supposed to work. The legal pilots of this flight did do wrong, but we can see why, due to the great disparity in rank. it is reprehensible for the King [then the Prince] to exercise rank and privilege corruptly and irresponsibly, and probably illegally. But royalty does not have a particularly good track record for acting legally and responsibly, and surprise surprise, this has caused the feudal system to fall out of flavor in many parts of the world, so there's that.
The king of the Netherlands is an actual certified pilot for KLM and regularly flies the 737 for them. So know that he can be the one that pilots the plane next time you fly with them
Oh, wow! I didn't know that! ❤But how does he introduce himself? "Hello, this is your captain speaking. My name is King Ned, but you can call me Your Majesty." Or something?
@@The_1_AssassinI might be wrong but I presume he flies from time to time, not every week so I don't think he is flying as a captain but most likely as 1st officer. Consequently he doesn't have to introduce himself
There was an article on this I believe and IIRC he flies just enough to maintain the certification. So, you need about the luck of winning the lottery to be on a plane he captains...
Need to correct the title. He is now King of the United Kingdom, NOT ‘England’, and he was the Prince of Wales when this accident happened. And do some more research .. he was qualified to fly the 146 .. plenty of reference out there, including the website of the aircraft manufacturer!!
Those planes are not just for the royal family, they are also used to transport members of the government. The larger aircraft also functions as a personnel transport for the military
Say what you want about monarchy, but the king and queen or the king owns the majority of the land in England he is head of the government and was essentially forced back then to have a constitutional monarchy don’t ever get a twisted. The government uses their planes on their land. The government is renting, essentially from the royal family everything.. it’s a shame.
Of you're going to comment, at least fact check it first. The King is not head of the government, that is the prime minister. The royal family don't own most of the land in England. The Crown Estates ( such as the Duchy of Cornwall) are not their personal property, they are in trust for the nation. The King doesn't even own Buckingham Palace! The only substantial properties owned privately by the family are Sandringham in Norfolk and Balmoral and Glamis in Scotland.
The A300 voyager is also an air to air refuelling tanker. Last week it was up refuelling Typhoon jets intercepting Russian aircraft North of Scotland and landed at RAF Lossiemouth.
@@johngrantham8024 at one time it was all theirs that’s why it’s in a Dutchie because of a constitutional monarchy but like I said before I don’t get it, twisted kings and queens ruled and owned that land for hundreds and hundreds of years. It might not be technically theirs because of politics, but it certainly didn’t belong to Winston Churchill or the Prime Minister, or anybody else the land belonged to the king and queens of England period. Obviously, it’s not the same as it was hundreds of years ago. But factually it’s borrowed/taken/ rented land from a king who agreed to a constitutional monarchy. Just because in our lifetime, the Prime Minister have very always been the head of government that’s not how it’s always was. Also the king still has the right to dissolve parliament. You could say well that was hundreds of years ago is not relevant anymore, but one family at one time owned everything all the land everything. And now it’s more symbolic than it is anything else, but the government did not build Buckingham Palace whether they own it or not, that came from royal money on the order of a king.. not a Prime Minister not a governor, a king.. all of those palaces in England were paid for with Royal money and ordered to be built by Kings and Queens. Not your Prime Ministers or your parliament.. it’s borrowed rented land Essentially. If you didn’t have kings and queens, England would not have those beautiful palaces, and it would just be a regular ole town place like everywhere else. The Prime Ministers were not ordering palaces to be built, but they sure were taking them.
@@johngrantham8024 it’s a shame that more British people are an absolute awe of there history. There’s no institution there’s no country anything like it in the British people should be fighting to keep one of the most powerful, successful, royal families in the world in the world relevant and powerful. If you live in England today, you owe it all to your former Kings and Queens. You’re still considered a subject what’s that tell you.
"Never complain, never explain". Thats the mantra of the RF. There is no chance, he would ever publicly comment on it under any circumstances. They keep it within the family. But Im sure, the Queen wouldve had something to say....
Classic example of Crew Resource Management. The Captain was afraid to call a Go Around, because of the King was in control. The King also should have recognized the problem and called a go around. The king is in control and it’s his responsibility. I hope the Captain got a nice pension for falling on his sword to save face for the Monarchy.
I recall reading about this at the time. I think the newspaper reports also said Prince Charles had landed the 146 a few times on previous flights, so he wasn't completely new to it, though still not qualified on the type.
He was qualified on the type along with being qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
@@gregedwards1087 Mummy was certainly no fool. During WW2, she was in the workshop, rebuilding engines for London ambulances. My late father loved telling the story of when a new guy was working with him. During a conversation he said. "Oily Lizzy in the workshop our future queen, pull the other leg". During her life she expected high standards, but everyone who worked with her said that she was one of the easiest and most relaxed people to work with.
Thank you for your videos. A small remark : contrary to what is said around 07:40 : The engines are not fitted with thrust reversers, instead the aircraft has a clamshell air brake in the tail and full width spoilers on the wings (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Aerospace_146)
@@freddymax5256 Yes it is. I hate it when youtube contributors do not check they have the correct pronunciation/spelling etc before releasing videos. Happens a lot.
@@freddymax5256 Eyela, not lay. Emphasis on the first syllable (we don’t pronounce the s in island or isle after all), the second syllable is almost an afterthought. It’s like all the other islands that end -ay, the y is not voiced.
00:30 "Sometimes the Concorde" FYI... The Concorde has not flown for 20+ years. Therefore, the 'royal family' will not be able to charter a Concorde. _(The inquiry 'found' that the captain and navigator were negligent, but his 'Royal Hyenas' was not even mentioned )_
I flew from the very small London city airport on this aircraft and it's an experience I'll never forget. Brake on, engines revving while the plane shakes violently and a blast off that feels great to avoid hitting the skyscrapers but suddenly slow down significantly as though you're about to drop at a steep angle. Takes some getting use to.
Slight correction: Islay is pronounced "EYE-la", silent S and something like a shortened version of 'island'. Overall agreed, time in type is essential for competent flying.
@@SureshKrishna5 I was about to make the same comment about pronunciation. Really, if you want to do media / voiceover work there is one rule among many - get the pronunciation right!
@@jameshisself9324 la... ? as in la la la la la mi mi mi mi fah so la ti do? Are you sure you are elocution instructor... and not Mary Poppins? Lay. Leigh. Not la la ha ha. Feigh figh fo fum... I ſmell the...
King Charles has never crashed a plane; Charles the Prince of Wales apparently did. And there hasn't been a king of England for hundreds of years. He's king of the United Kingdom (and Canada, Australia, etc). And if a royal squadron plane counts as a "private jet", then I guess Airforce One must also. Sounds like clickbait to me.
H was wrong, so was the Captain BUT he was Type Rated on the HS/BAe146 despite the claims he wasn't, he was also type rated on a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
As a curiosity, the current king of the Netherlands used to be a pilot on passenger airplanes for KLM every so often. Maybe he still does, don't know that, through he has to make his hours to keep his license. No, they wouldn't tell you he'd be one of the pilots on your flight, but he did fly regular passenger flights, not some rented plane for private use or such.
Islay can be tricky, but usually in Westerlies. It's a very windy place, I've been in there dozens of times as an F/O with Loganair on the SD3-60. Come to think of it, easterlies can be tricky there too.
The crash was known, and HMTQ probably wasn't very pleased. If you want an example of a power gradient (allegedly) having grave consequences, look at the RAF Vulcan attempting to land at LHR.
@@freddiecunningham2860 HMTQ isn’t a they. It stands for Her Majesty the Queen. Thus, the Queen probably wasn’t pleased her son crashed a 10 million dollar (20.5 million today) plane that was brand new, and caused it 1m worth of damage. So yes, his mother was likely furious over what he had done. She was probably already angry with him over the issues with Diana, considering this was like 2 years before their public divorce. Editing to add that by angry, I mean angry about the public image and press coming from it because any negative press was bad.
Indeed, she was known for, ahem, great candor in private, such as when reaming out the prince. Given her history in the army, I'd not have wanted to be on the wrong side of her.
Not so. The Captain of the aircraft is in command and it was his accident. Some sympathy though to allowing HRH to take control. He was qualified on other types. Possibly the Captain was a QFI which may then make it legit to allow a non type rated P2 to handle the approach & landing. The Captain should of course have called for a go around or taken control once the approach was not within parameters.
@@Trevor_Austin hey Trevor! It’s been a while! Great thanks. Just rounded the Mull of Kintyre on way back from our summer cruise around the wee places on the west coast up to Skye. You still aviating? I’ve got shares in various a/c out of Hinton…
The A330 is a RAF tanker aircraft that the royals share with the prime minister and other government officials. It can also be used for military operations. They don’t have their own fleet anymore as far as I know.
32(TR) Squadron are still active (TR standing for The Royal) and operate 2x Envoy IV business jets and 1x AW109SP helicopter they’re used for a whole manner of VIP transport now not just royalty. There is a separate flight called The Kings Helicopter Flight (TKHF) and operate 2x S-76 Helicopters which are used for most royal engagements now. Alternatively there is a leased A321N from Titan Airways and 10 Squadrons A330 MRTT available to VIP’s including the Royal Family if necessary.
There are no royal jets or planes, but there are hundreds of planes in the Royal Air Force. One of those is used to ship royalty around at the tax payer's expense.
I flew in a BAe 146 out in California, when they were part of the PSA (the airplanes with a smile) fleet. And as I was just a little kid, I thought it was so cool to see the engines above my head. Plus, I was extremely fascinated to watch all the wing configuration changes throughout the flight, of which you have a much better perspective, sitting under them.
Concordes could possibly not be at their disposal unless they are visited in the museum. Been a fan of your channel but this video might need re-doing with some fact checking. Most royal family will be Royal Highnesses, and he has been the King Charles only for a year, and it is King of United Kingdom not England... Good to be accurate with context for those based in the country of incident.
Love the content, keep it coming! 😻 For future reference, Islay is pronounced "EYE-luh", the "luh" part rhyming with "mutt". And unlike some other commenters, I think it's a reasonable mistake that you accidentally called him "the King of England" instead of "the King of the United Kingdom", since in the minds of many, England and the United Kingdom are synonymous... but this is an example of a case where it is not. ❤
No disagreement BUT he was TYPE CERTIFIED King Charles learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
Islay is Pronounced "I LAY" and the King as he is now was a Qualified Pilot, after this Accident he Agreed with the Authorities to Retire from Flying. The Spoilers Deploy Automatically if Set but as the WOW Switch, (Weight on Wheels) is on the Main Gear and the Spoilers won't Deploy if you Dive into Mother Nature with the Nose Gear. Pretty Certain from the Report that i Read was that the Prince (King) was aware of the Tail Wind Component but Contined with the Landing Regardless Possibly as a Result of being Late.
It’s definitely “eye-lah” (not “eye-lay”). Anyone who knows anything about whisky will know this, you don’t even have to be a Scot! Type “Islay pronunciation” into Google and it will say it out loud!
I remember this. I was in Staffordshire at the time, and we were watching the film "Dances with Wolves" on the TV. A bulletin interrupted to tell about the crash, and they never got back to the movie.
The Royal Family does not have its own aircraft as such - these aeroplanes belong to 'The Royal Flight' which used to be based at RAF Benson (not sure if they still are - or even if Benson still exists [as an RAF base]). The aircraft are actually RAF property and are/were used to ferry the Royals around as and when necessary (in later years, they flew British Airways when possible). These 'Royal Flight' aircraft were always at the disposal of the RAF when needed logistically - in a similar way to the Royal Yacht Britannia which was actually a Navy ship and used as such, for instance during the Falklands conflict. B.t.w. it's Islay, as in an island, not Iz-lay
The Royal Flight moved to Northolt back in the 90s. I was actually duty officer at Benson the day Diana died and was repatriated. In the afternoon I got a call to go to the main gate as scores of media had gathered there for the repatriation. I went out and announced they had 45 minutes to get to Northolt and they all jumped in their vehicles and took off down those narrow Oxfordshire lanes. That was also the day I learned that ‘half mast’ was actually two thirds of the way up, when I was instructed by telephone to go back and correct my schoolboy error.
It seems like a perfect combination of two common problems, fear to correct a superior and failure to go settings when too high and too fast. The Captain was still in charge of the plane, and should have called off the landing way before.
06:20 king in the left hand seat? Before you said that he took over for the First Officer. I am a rated First Officer on the Boeing 737 NG and the A320 family. My seat is right. Is that different with the Bae?
The Royals fly with "The Queen's flight". I flew with them for 2 weeks. Their a/c use 15% less fuel than similar others - all polished nicely; extra maintenance etc. I learned to fly with HRH Prince Charles. He had his own Chipmunk painted bright red and was his own "Purple Airway", so no other a/c within 2miles. I had dinner with him and the UK Minister of Defence. He should have gone to max power and overshot. It is ALWAYS better to be in the air where you have total control. The Captain should have said, "I have control!" and Charles, "You have control." No buggering about.
@@eekee6034 Yes. And why let him do a landing on a short strip? In the RAF, no bullshit, no deference. If I am the Captain, I make the decisions regardless of who owns the a/c. It is all about LIVING and not dying in a hostile flying World. Stick to the rules, always. Is a discipline; is what changes men/women into PILOTS - a bit stodgy; a bit boring; conservative; controlling. (Women hate us!) CAVU skies.
Sad, but this is the same story you've told many times... Also, 146 doesn't have reversers. Just strong brakes and spoilers. And with the main gear landing so late they activated WAY too late.
He wasn’t the King for another 30 years, there hasn’t been a King of England for over 300 years, the Royal Family do not own any private jets and I can forgive you for not knowing the airport is pronounced “eye la”.
1 We all know what he means 2 No one cares 3 The royal family own lots of aircraft but because they are said to be owned by the MOD, taxpayers have to foot the bill. 4 King Charles, best friend of Sir Jimmy Savile. 5 If they want it called eye la, then spell it eyela.
The UK includes England. He is thus by operation of fact the king in England. Come to think of it, until we get a republic, you can just call him the king oy Canada for similar expediency
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 The UK includes the Isle of Wight why not call him the King of the Isle of Wight? He was not King of anywhere when this incident happened.
King Charles or Prince Charles then, learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
While taking in Western art at the Phippen museum in Arizona some years ago, I was introduced to BAE aircraft. Several times during the morning, water bombers would depart PRC outbound, fully loaded with firefighting water, thundering mere feet above the roof of the facility. The art was dancing on the walls.
Being Scottish born and bred we (& the Welsh and NI) get really annoyed when foreigners say things like "the current King of England". He's the King of the United Kingdom which consists of Great Britain & Northern Ireland. You should know better! And Islay has a silent s.
Yeah the whole point to this recording was to talk about one person and within seconds they had messed up his title, and disregarded 3 of the 4 counties in the union. Google is just there, just a button click away
I d hate to be the pilot in charge giving Charles the run of the plane. I’m not saying Charles is a bad pilot, but the captain held his tongue when he should have taken control back, but when the King is flying there is a very good chance the captain could have ended his career by taking back control. His career and his copilot’s probably did end, because King Chuckles is not going to own up to crashing the plane. It must be nice to have power like that where the only person on board who counts and caused the mess has it swept under the carpet and lets the pilots take the blame. What a wanker.
THE KING WASN'T FLYING this was 30- years ago, it wasn't hidden, it was all over the papers and TV and contrary to what is implied here he was type rated for the HS/BAe146
1) It's pronounced Isle-a. 2) Everybody in the UK knew all about it - the crash was all over the news. 3) It happened the same day that the documentary where he admitted infidelity was broadcast, so doubtless foreign media were more interested in that. 4) The captain has absolute authority, and I've know few captains without the ego to say 'No' even to a senior royal. 5) Once again - Isle-a. It's the first line of the Wikipedia entry.
Ok, here’s my conspiracy theory. Charles intentionally caused this incident to take attention away from the infidelity story. Or maybe Charles was distracted by the infidelity story and failed to concentrate on the aviation details.
…or maybe (and hear me out on this) Charles is , and always has been, a power-hungry chuffed bogart with an extremely inflated ego, excessive unsupported hubris and an incurably high opinion of himself in all aspects of his existence. England got the King they deserve; now they have to wait until he expires so that William can ascend the throne. 9:35
Another great video. Just one suggestion, you sometimes pronounce destinations nothing like how they are pronounced. The internet has many sites that will tell you how to pronounce a place. So eye-luh not is-lay, lay-goss not lag-oss, etc. Keep up the good work.
I worked at Buckingham palace and the gardeners hated him coming by helicopter, after he left they had to fill in the holes he made with his hard landings
Well, the findings of the investigation are absolutely correct. The captain is the captain and the now King Charles in this situation was a mere student pilot at best. And not realizing, that the visual clues showed a hefty tail wind there, isn't prime time either (I am sure that the tower informed the crew about the wind when issuing a landing clearance). And, oh, I once flew the Pope from Zurich to Lugano in a Saab 340. But as the captain it's still me deciding to land there or to divert to, say, Milano (well, the Pope wasn't present in the cockpit but sat in a specially furbished seat 🤭. Having a King or then Prince in the cockpit doesn't change a Yota about one's responsibility - there simply shouldn't be a power gradient...
I agree, the pilot is in charge and is to blame when a novice pilot is at the controls. I do find it interesting that HRH being at the controls was not part of the criticism in the report.
@@hephaistos681 lol no, no there isn't. If Jesus Christ himself is the passenger, the PIC needs to have the stones to tell him he's not touching the controls. If he can't, then hes not responsible enough to be the captain. PIC is 100% responsible for this.
A STUDENT PILOT AT BEST - It must be wonderful to not have the faintest idea about what you're talking about but think you do ! King Charles learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
The A330-MRTT Voyager VIP ZZ336 flight belongs to RAF 10.Sqdn and is an operational tanker that only occasionally doubles as a VIP aircraft. It's based at RAF Brize Norton, Oxfordshire alongside 101.Sqdn in the same role and six other squadrons flying the A-400 Atlas, C-130J Hercules and the C-17 Globemaster. As for Islay, it is a really beautiful island, pronounced ‘I lay’.
@@htimsid sorry, blame autoincorrect on my phone for that one. My best friends daughter is named Isla after the island, but apparently when I try to type it right my phone says no, just like it tried to correct her name to Islam.
Aren't you supposed to have rear speed brakes deployed during approach for the 146, as this aircraft does not have reversers? I could be wrong, but I thought that was in the MSFS versions manual. I know, its not the real thing, but just a thought!
I was in the RAF at the time He was in Training, he took at least twice as many hours as normal to master the basics, & even more on Jets (JP) , Nobody wanted to go near Him & any normal bloke would have been binned. He is Not the sharpest Tool in the Box, then or Now
I don’t understand why they are given the training when they will see limited to no action. I believe that William was a good helicopter pilot and earned his qualification but then only did a couple of years, part time, in search and rescue. It would have been better to train someone who could have had years, if not, decades of service
A couple of points.. You mentioned late in the video that the 'reverses' would not deploy due to the undercarriage not having firm contact with the runway.. The BA146 has no 'reverses'. It relies on 'clamshells' at the tail of the fuselage to open up, creating drag to assist braking. second point, I'm not 100% on this but I believe that the aircraft are not owned by the royal family.. they're in fact RAF aircraft that have been designated 'aircraft of the royal flight.. hence the colour scheme. The pilots are all RAF-serving officers. Why the captain didn't take over the aircraft late in the approach is difficult to understand.. I would certainly not have been intimidated by my VIP passenger in the right hand seat.. (I did on one occasion refuse an instruction from the president of a country to continue with an unsafe approach.. It's my @Rse sitting up front.
It was indeed the question asked 30 years ago when this happened, why didn't the Captain take control ! BUT Prince Charles was TYPE CERTIFIED for the HS/BAe146 King Charles learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
@@richardpeddie2060 Interesting, thank you.. I wasn't aware that he'd been typed on it. This still doesn't absolve the captain from his responsibility as the pilot in command. The POW may indeed have been type rated on the a/c but would not have been a regular flight crew member in regular practice.. As we all know, a few weeks, a month or two away from the cockpit and the cracks begin to show. The approach was a challenging one by any standards, the captain could, indeed should have diplomatically suggested that, under the circumstances, it would have to be a captain's approach and landing. Let the POW take it home.
correction, no reverse thrust on these planes. brakes only. unlike the RJ, on the 146 in this case you need all gears weight on wheels for ground spoilers deployment plus a time delay.
Scotland being in the same sovereignty as England, and in fact having the same sovereign, that would only be necessary on the same basis as any other local plane.
He is King of the United Kingdom - there are no separate titles for the constituent nations of the United Kingdom. The titles King/Queen of England & Scotland were abolished on the 1st May 1707, when under the terms of the Acts of Union the two separate realms of England and Scotland were dissolved and the new single realm of the Kingdom of Great Britain was created. Neither Wales (a principality) or Northern Ireland (politically defined province) have ever had a King or Queen other that the UK sovereign.
The Royal Family of the United Kingdom (not """England""") does not "have a private jet". An aircraft from the RAF's 32nd Squadron (formerly known as 'The Queen's Flight') may be used by the sovereign when he travels long distances on official government business, such as King Charles's recent visit to Romania; the squadron is primarily used by the King for official visits to countries outside the larger Commonwealth realms. (If Canada wants their sovereign to visit, they send their own plane.) These days no other members of the Royal Family are allowed to use 32nd Squadron aircraft except in extraordinary circumstances, as was the case on the day Queen Elizabeth II died; they're expected to take regular passenger flights even for official duties. But the primary purpose of 32nd Squadron is military transport; they also transport diplomats and diplomatic pouches, senior elected officials such as the Prime Minister, and have even been used to deliver emergency supplies. The Royal Family is actually their very last priority! Keep in mind, too, that the 'official duties' I mentioned above are assigned to members of the Royal Family by the government of the day. Charles didn’t visit Romania last week because he felt like it; Rishi Sunak sent him there, although the visit was probably scheduled months ago by Boris Johnson or Liz Truss. (The same goes for all official royal duties. Prince William isn’t out there inspecting the troops for fun; he's out there because the Army asked him to.)
And like him or not King Charles learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
I read about this incident in a book I've got on air accidents. Unfortunately I'm far from home right now but I'll be able to find the book late next week.
Once saw the queen's private jet coming into land into Norwich Airport as I was travelling by train. I remember it flying low and also completely burgundy painted with the crest on the tail.
Whoopdidoo my grand father was a pilot and he crashed at least 3 times. He was pretty much drunk each time but yeah 3 times. He could of been pilot in Navy but he couldn't put the bottle down so he ended up on an oiler/ Was the Prince flying back from Epstein's island?
Charles' sasuage fingers fumbled the throttles, I reckon! I don't think he had the dexterity to engage the reversers! To quote Jesse from Fast and Furious - "You can't just climb into the ring with Ali because you think you can box!"
The 146 has no trust reversers. But it fits in with the "Royal Family" just to sit in a pilots seat and think they can fly the plane. And endangering lives. And the British public has to pay the bill. And the captain has to take the blame. Typical!
@@jeanmcgahey1143 The captain should have interjected and said "Your highness, with all do respect, please do fuck off... My plane!" when it was clear he was overshooting the touchdown.
@@Michelottob Well, he sausage fingered the spoiler and the split clam air brake... Probably should have known with the engines being that small.... derp... But sausage fingers...
Those are it's air brakes, the type also had FULL WIDTH SPOILERS unlike many aircraft so it really didn't need thrust reversers. You must remember the design was not just for nice high quality ruways but also for not much more than dirt runways in Africa and the Far East, there was a perception of a reduced effectiveness with Thrust Reversers in those areas
They're not. The BAE-146 that this version is based on has a split tail airbrake. The two pods at the tail with black spheres on the Royal Flight were DIRCM and a flare dispenser.
@@Republic3D I'm not sure if it was across the board with all countries. But certainly the ones operated for the Royal Flight as VIP transport had them added. You see them on the current RAF VIP transport aircraft too. Pretty cool piece of kit. The dome spins round and fires IR laser light to burn out the seeker head of the missile.
1975-1979 Can recall Charles operated a private helicopter and sometimes let anne take off and land with no license. One of their security may have also piloted. When I recall him flying navy load lifters, he always was a third pilot more like a navigator. However he had the qualifications the risk of allowing him to be injured required such. 1976 During Ocean Operation Safari a naval helicopter was ditched from HMS Hermes. It wasnt his squadron and accident report listed engine damage. Not sure if he may have been onboard. He commanded HMS Hermes at times.
@@PassiveSmoking No, prince Andrew was best mates with Jeffery Epstein, Charles was best mates with Jimmy Saville.... All just a terrible coincidence obviously.
Knowing as much as I do about the English, I think the co pilot wanted to take a break to have his tea and crumpets so he handed over control to the King. The King got distracted when sunlight glimmered off of the jewels in his crown and temporarily blinded him. He tried to regain control but it was hard to steer the yoke with one hand and hold his royal scepter with the other.
Did the narrator really say that the Royal Family 'sometimes uses Concorde'?! That's very unlikely - in fact, impossible - as Concorde has not flown for about 20 years. Since the fatal crash in France at the start of the century, the only Concordes are static museum-pieces. There is one like this at Manchester Airport.
I find it curious they held the pilots solely responsible for this crash. The sheer arrogance of Prince Charles to attempt to land an aircraft he had never flown is a critical factor in this crash. All parties need to thank their lucky stars no one was injured!!
The pilots bear ultimate responsibility for the safety of flight, and as such they also carry the authority to deny anybody who shouldn't be in the cockpit access, title be damned. For that lapse in judgement I feel they must face the consequences.
They were held responsible, coz they were. Its their aircraft, their responsibility. The captain should never have allowed Charles to pilot the plane, he had every right to refuse it, indeed the responsibility to do so. Let alone let an inexperienced pilot, who doesnt know the type, land the plane, let alone land it at a difficult airport. Then failing to supply important information, failing to call for a go-around, failing to take control. Put in urself instead of Charles. Or me or any1 else. Would u be blaming the student pilot? Or would u be blaming the captain? Be honest. The captain is always, ALWAYS fully responsible for anything and everything on his aircraft, and his word is final. Yes, the inexperienced student pilot failed the landing. But the captain put him in that situation by failing on so many points getting there.
The captain is Responsible - but His Royal Highness (as he was at the time) was most certainly Accountable. Please refer to the definition of the acronym "RACI". I beg your forgiveness your Majesty, for pointing this out. I do, however, remain your most humble and obedient servant.
Charles being Charles, he definitely said "I can do it better, just give me the controls, PEASANT!" Perhaps not in those exact words, but no matter the words he used that was what he meant.
The King of the Netherlands is also a pilot, but UNLIKE Charles, King Willem-Alexander is a fully certified 737 line pilot and has flown revenue flights for KLM.
He has in fact flown hundreds of KLM flights initially on Fokker 70/100 aircraft and now the 737. He’s a very civilised guy and very competent. He always flies from the RHS with an instructor even though he is fully type rated.
King Hussein of Jordan was a pilot too
King Charles learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was QUALIFIED TO FLY a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
NO of course he wasn't a Comnmercial Pilot but he WAS QUALIFIED to fly the type
Hawaii had a legislator who was a regular Aloha pilot ( I think it was Aloha). But I'm certain he had to do all of the training that regular line pilots were required to do.
Moral: let the people work who know what they are doing. Everyone else should limit themselves to simulators. Thank God, only the taxpayers had to pay for this madness. The royal billions were not touched.
I worked as a Locomotive Engineer and was always plagued with riders (management, VIPs, customer's owners and shareholders) who wanted to sit in the seat and operate. I had to always say this is not a video game snd if you think it is simple I will stop and get off and you can give it a go.These types of things are not toys!
I was working as a civilian contractor on an RAF base in the UK and on the back of the toilet stall doors was a cartoon with the base commander asking to take the controls of a plane and the pilot having to deny him. It is CRM taught in the RAF - the pilot is in command no matter if some one higher rank tells him to do something. He might have to answer for his decision once he lands, but at least his plane will be in one piece.
That's correct.
High and fast, screw it, stuffed that landing, go around.
@@spvillano, Always, unless you are established and stable, or you don't like what you see or how it feels, it is always 'Go Around'. One of the first things you are taught when you start learning to fly, my instructor called a go around on my second landing (at my 3.5 hr mark, 4th flight), for no reason other than to see how I reacted to the call. 😂🇦🇺
I can just see the headlines now "First British subject in over XX years to be executed for disobeying the king". The fact anyone would hand over the controls just because someone is 'king' or 'the boss' is just absurd to me.
@@sgt.gunslinger1532 at the time, he wasn't king. His mum was still happily polishing the throne as little as possible, preferring to consult in council and drive herself around on her own properties.
And being retired US Army, who worked with a lot of joint forces, including FVEY forces, the captain likely would've been given a commendation - by the Prince himself.
It sounds more like a day of intracranial flatulence in the cockpit all around. Likely due to the enemy of all life, complacency. We've all done it, most learn from it and avoid it like the death plague it can become.
What the Clown Prince should have done was, once he realized he wasn't stabilized and especially, had he failed to notice that Helen Keller level visible event, when he couldn't get the ass end down, he should've went TOGA. Even with 500 meters of road remaining, the aircraft's performance envelope would've easily allowed it. For a passenger bird, it's quite nimble in the energy envelope.
And likely why he turned in his wings. If I accrued that long a chain of errors in judgement, I could no longer trust my judgement again either.
Islay is said like Eye-la, one of our many islands, and the report will say His Royal Highness as that’s part of his official title/style as royalty (so like HRH Prince of Wales, HMTQ for Her Majesty The Queen), and good luck finding a written report anywhere online as it is restricted! You’d need to send a freedom of information request and you wouldn’t even be guaranteed to get a copy, if you did get a copy I’ve no doubt most of it would be redacted anyway!
Nice to see one of our obscure aviation incidents in Scotland, always one that’s highly amused me. Totally agree that rank/title does not matter in aviation, nobody should’ve cared that the Prince of Wales wanted to fly, he should’ve been told “no”. In saying that, Charles was never gunna be blamed for this incident.
And furthermore he has many titles, but "King of England" is definitely not one of them. He is, unsurprisingly, king of the Kingdom - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Yea this is a very good video but every single "Izz-lay" made my bones itch lmao
He is also Lord of the Isles, a title he has honoured very well spending a lot of time in the Hebrides and the Highlands. He is not the King of England!! How hard is it to do a bit of research before posting?
I knew that he flew, but I did not know that he had crashed an airplane.
They forgot to tell us the crash bit 😂
@@planemad Right?! 😅
@@planemad who? It's been common knowledge for 30 years.
😂😂😂😂
You surely didn't think he could do anything right😂. He's a buffoon.
This is something almost everyone gets confused about-the difference between RANK and APPOINTMENT. A private solider on sentry duty, for example. Who has command of the situation? The private, or a Field Marshall or General? If you didn't say the Private you would be wrong, it is the appointment and task at hand that matters. Why does it matter? It is the duty of the person assigned as guard and sentry to challenge anyone and everyone who approaches his post. That is why if the guard is proven negligent [for example falls asleep], he can face severe punishment for his or her detraction of duty. We can see the logic of this. A surprise enemy attack may try to penetrate the defenses, perhaps by impersonating a general. it is the sentry's duty to try to prevent that from happening, or many people could die and the army be defeated.
Indeed a good officer should complement a conscientious sentry for doing his duty, even if that sticking to procedure inconvenienced that officer.
Back to the aircraft. The aircraft captain is the aircraft captain, irrespective of rank. If the Air Chief Marshal, the King or god himself has a higher rank, it is totally irrelevant. And sure, the senior officer can relieve the junior officer of his post, but then it has to be for cause, not following the rules. In the case of the Aircraft captain, once the plane is on the ground and rendered safe, and in case of the sentry, after he is relived of his duty as sentry. That is how this works.
Actually, Prince Charles, as the ranking officer is responsible, not the captain. Because he interfered with the officer doing his appointed duties. Charles was not appointed to fly the aircraft, the captain and first officer were. And to get the appointment to fly the plane legally, he would have to done type training and passed assessment.
This is how the rule of law is supposed to work. The legal pilots of this flight did do wrong, but we can see why, due to the great disparity in rank. it is reprehensible for the King [then the Prince] to exercise rank and privilege corruptly and irresponsibly, and probably illegally.
But royalty does not have a particularly good track record for acting legally and responsibly, and surprise surprise, this has caused the feudal system to fall out of flavor in many parts of the world, so there's that.
The king of the Netherlands is an actual certified pilot for KLM and regularly flies the 737 for them. So know that he can be the one that pilots the plane next time you fly with them
Oh, wow! I didn't know that! ❤But how does he introduce himself? "Hello, this is your captain speaking. My name is King Ned, but you can call me Your Majesty." Or something?
@@The_1_Assassinnow that’s soldering!!
@@The_1_AssassinI might be wrong but I presume he flies from time to time, not every week so I don't think he is flying as a captain but most likely as 1st officer. Consequently he doesn't have to introduce himself
@@The_1_Assassin That would be Captain van Buren.
There was an article on this I believe and IIRC he flies just enough to maintain the certification. So, you need about the luck of winning the lottery to be on a plane he captains...
Need to correct the title. He is now King of the United Kingdom, NOT ‘England’, and he was the Prince of Wales when this accident happened.
And do some more research .. he was qualified to fly the 146 .. plenty of reference out there, including the website of the aircraft manufacturer!!
Those planes are not just for the royal family, they are also used to transport members of the government. The larger aircraft also functions as a personnel transport for the military
Say what you want about monarchy, but the king and queen or the king owns the majority of the land in England he is head of the government and was essentially forced back then to have a constitutional monarchy don’t ever get a twisted. The government uses their planes on their land. The government is renting, essentially from the royal family everything.. it’s a shame.
Of you're going to comment, at least fact check it first. The King is not head of the government, that is the prime minister. The royal family don't own most of the land in England. The Crown Estates ( such as the Duchy of Cornwall) are not their personal property, they are in trust for the nation. The King doesn't even own Buckingham Palace! The only substantial properties owned privately by the family are Sandringham in Norfolk and Balmoral and Glamis in Scotland.
The A300 voyager is also an air to air refuelling tanker. Last week it was up refuelling Typhoon jets intercepting Russian aircraft North of Scotland and landed at RAF Lossiemouth.
@@johngrantham8024 at one time it was all theirs that’s why it’s in a Dutchie because of a constitutional monarchy but like I said before I don’t get it, twisted kings and queens ruled and owned that land for hundreds and hundreds of years. It might not be technically theirs because of politics, but it certainly didn’t belong to Winston Churchill or the Prime Minister, or anybody else the land belonged to the king and queens of England period. Obviously, it’s not the same as it was hundreds of years ago. But factually it’s borrowed/taken/ rented land from a king who agreed to a constitutional monarchy. Just because in our lifetime, the Prime Minister have very always been the head of government that’s not how it’s always was. Also the king still has the right to dissolve parliament. You could say well that was hundreds of years ago is not relevant anymore, but one family at one time owned everything all the land everything. And now it’s more symbolic than it is anything else, but the government did not build Buckingham Palace whether they own it or not, that came from royal money on the order of a king.. not a Prime Minister not a governor, a king.. all of those palaces in England were paid for with Royal money and ordered to be built by Kings and Queens. Not your Prime Ministers or your parliament.. it’s borrowed rented land
Essentially. If you didn’t have kings and queens, England would not have those beautiful palaces, and it would just be a regular ole town place like everywhere else. The Prime Ministers were not ordering palaces to be built, but they sure were taking them.
@@johngrantham8024 it’s a shame that more British people are an absolute awe of there history. There’s no institution there’s no country anything like it in the British people should be fighting to keep one of the most powerful, successful, royal families in the world in the world relevant and powerful. If you live in England today, you owe it all to your former Kings and Queens. You’re still considered a subject what’s that tell you.
What a shame that he didn’t accept and insist on responsibility.
"Never complain, never explain". Thats the mantra of the RF. There is no chance, he would ever publicly comment on it under any circumstances. They keep it within the family. But Im sure, the Queen wouldve had something to say....
I always believe anything I see on RUclips as well,especially when it uses stock footage..
What a shame he survived!!
@@Robins_Place so you'd prefer someone dies in an aircraft crash, you really should find another RUclips page more suited to your childish mind.
@@dfuher968 I suspect that it was the Queen who told him to stop flying.
Classic example of Crew Resource Management. The Captain was afraid to call a Go Around, because of the King was in control. The King also should have recognized the problem and called a go around. The king is in control and it’s his responsibility. I hope the Captain got a nice pension for falling on his sword to save face for the Monarchy.
"Go around" and "I have control" are possibly the most import lifesavers known to aviation!
I recall reading about this at the time. I think the newspaper reports also said Prince Charles had landed the 146 a few times on previous flights, so he wasn't completely new to it, though still not qualified on the type.
He was qualified on the type along with being qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
The last "King" of England was in 1707, then there were no aeroplanes.
No matter what he was not going to be blamed.
He was told he wasn't going to fly it again though.
They got You in the end. ;)
@@grahamstevenson1740, yeah, Mummy said so.
@@gregedwards1087 Correct, the "so called" Royal Family are IMMUNE to EVERYTHING they do wrong, a COMPLETE DISGRACE!
@@gregedwards1087 Mummy was certainly no fool. During WW2, she was in the workshop, rebuilding engines for London ambulances.
My late father loved telling the story of when a new guy was working with him. During a conversation he said. "Oily Lizzy in the workshop our future queen, pull the other leg".
During her life she expected high standards, but everyone who worked with her said that she was one of the easiest and most relaxed people to work with.
Thank you for your videos. A small remark : contrary to what is said around 07:40 : The engines are not fitted with thrust reversers, instead the aircraft has a clamshell air brake in the tail and full width spoilers on the wings (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Aerospace_146)
And isn’t the airport they were landing at Isley pronounced Eyelay?
@@freddymax5256 Yes it is. I hate it when youtube contributors do not check they have the correct pronunciation/spelling etc before releasing videos. Happens a lot.
@@jgsburnett9532 In fairness MAI does do pretty good with most of the pronounciations needed. I understand the pet peeve though
@@freddymax5256 Eyela, not lay. Emphasis on the first syllable (we don’t pronounce the s in island or isle after all), the second syllable is almost an afterthought. It’s like all the other islands that end -ay, the y is not voiced.
00:30 "Sometimes the Concorde" FYI... The Concorde has not flown for 20+ years. Therefore, the 'royal family' will not be able to charter a Concorde.
_(The inquiry 'found' that the captain and navigator were negligent, but his 'Royal Hyenas' was not even mentioned )_
Lots of articles about Kim Jong-un being a great pilot, engineer, general... just sayin'.
That might be the reason he never flies, he proberly is aware of the technical condition of his fleet.
😂😂😂
I never knew he crashed a Royal jet. Great video! Thank You. 😁
I flew from the very small London city airport on this aircraft and it's an experience I'll never forget. Brake on, engines revving while the plane shakes violently and a blast off that feels great to avoid hitting the skyscrapers but suddenly slow down significantly as though you're about to drop at a steep angle. Takes some getting use to.
Reference to reversers at 07:45. The 146 has no thrust reversers.
Indeed, airbrake in the tail and full width spoilers.
Slight correction: Islay is pronounced "EYE-la", silent S and something like a shortened version of 'island'.
Overall agreed, time in type is essential for competent flying.
Thanks bud.
@@SureshKrishna5 I was about to make the same comment about pronunciation. Really, if you want to do media / voiceover work there is one rule among many - get the pronunciation right!
Eye-lay yes
@@weareallbeingwatched4602 Commonly 'lay', but technically 'la' is correct. Not that I want to be the pronounce police, say it however you want.
@@jameshisself9324 la... ? as in la la la la la mi mi mi mi fah so la ti do? Are you sure you are elocution instructor... and not Mary Poppins? Lay. Leigh. Not la la ha ha. Feigh figh fo fum... I ſmell the...
Sounds like the plane was floated and touched down beyond its normal point of touch.
King Charles has never crashed a plane; Charles the Prince of Wales apparently did. And there hasn't been a king of England for hundreds of years. He's king of the United Kingdom (and Canada, Australia, etc). And if a royal squadron plane counts as a "private jet", then I guess Airforce One must also. Sounds like clickbait to me.
H was wrong, so was the Captain BUT he was Type Rated on the HS/BAe146 despite the claims he wasn't, he was also type rated on a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
He used to ride a motorcycle around London too, that was until people realised his crash helmet was shaped like the club suit in a deck of cards !
As a curiosity, the current king of the Netherlands used to be a pilot on passenger airplanes for KLM every so often. Maybe he still does, don't know that, through he has to make his hours to keep his license. No, they wouldn't tell you he'd be one of the pilots on your flight, but he did fly regular passenger flights, not some rented plane for private use or such.
Islay can be tricky, but usually in Westerlies. It's a very windy place, I've been in there dozens of times as an F/O with Loganair on the SD3-60. Come to think of it, easterlies can be tricky there too.
Yes, and with a tailwind? Hmm
Have you any idea what reasons there might be that they didn't just go around?
The crash was known, and HMTQ probably wasn't very pleased.
If you want an example of a power gradient (allegedly) having grave consequences, look at the RAF Vulcan attempting to land at LHR.
Why wasn't they pleased? It was the king after all
@@freddiecunningham2860Put your brain in gear. Charles wasn't the King at the time 🤦🏻♂️
@@freddiecunningham2860 HMTQ isn’t a they. It stands for Her Majesty the Queen. Thus, the Queen probably wasn’t pleased her son crashed a 10 million dollar (20.5 million today) plane that was brand new, and caused it 1m worth of damage.
So yes, his mother was likely furious over what he had done. She was probably already angry with him over the issues with Diana, considering this was like 2 years before their public divorce.
Editing to add that by angry, I mean angry about the public image and press coming from it because any negative press was bad.
@@MoteofVolition Oh yeah I forget about that mate....carry on
Indeed, she was known for, ahem, great candor in private, such as when reaming out the prince.
Given her history in the army, I'd not have wanted to be on the wrong side of her.
The pilot in control of the plane while landing is solely responsible. This situation called for a go around but egos got in the way. Cheers 🇨🇦
Not so. The Captain of the aircraft is in command and it was his accident. Some sympathy though to allowing HRH to take control. He was qualified on other types. Possibly the Captain was a QFI which may then make it legit to allow a non type rated P2 to handle the approach & landing. The Captain should of course have called for a go around or taken control once the approach was not within parameters.
@@robertcronk2451Hello Robert. How are you doing?
@@Trevor_Austin hey Trevor! It’s been a while! Great thanks. Just rounded the Mull of Kintyre on way back from our summer cruise around the wee places on the west coast up to Skye. You still aviating? I’ve got shares in various a/c out of Hinton…
The A330 is a RAF tanker aircraft that the royals share with the prime minister and other government officials. It can also be used for military operations. They don’t have their own fleet anymore as far as I know.
The Royal Family NEVER had their own Fleet of aircraft, the aircraft were part of the Royal Flight!! An RAF Sqn that flew them!
32(TR) Squadron are still active (TR standing for The Royal) and operate 2x Envoy IV business jets and 1x AW109SP helicopter they’re used for a whole manner of VIP transport now not just royalty. There is a separate flight called The Kings Helicopter Flight (TKHF) and operate 2x S-76 Helicopters which are used for most royal engagements now. Alternatively there is a leased A321N from Titan Airways and 10 Squadrons A330 MRTT available to VIP’s including the Royal Family if necessary.
There are no royal jets or planes, but there are hundreds of planes in the Royal Air Force. One of those is used to ship royalty around at the tax payer's expense.
Of course, the armed forces (including the RAF) are also a taxpayer's expense...😂
@@studio6584 No one is saying otherwise, however there are no "Royal jets" or "royal planes".
I flew in a BAe 146 out in California, when they were part of the PSA (the airplanes with a smile) fleet. And as I was just a little kid, I thought it was so cool to see the engines above my head. Plus, I was extremely fascinated to watch all the wing configuration changes throughout the flight, of which you have a much better perspective, sitting under them.
Great video!
Concordes could possibly not be at their disposal unless they are visited in the museum. Been a fan of your channel but this video might need re-doing with some fact checking. Most royal family will be Royal Highnesses, and he has been the King Charles only for a year, and it is King of United Kingdom not England... Good to be accurate with context for those based in the country of incident.
I assumed it meant they had Concorde at their disposal until they were retired in 2003
@@makslargu5799 Yeah right!! Concorde was owned by British Airways and was never at the Royal Family`s disposal!!
I absolutely agree.........he let himself down with this one. Normally very informative but this one needs redoing.
So it wasn’t crash, it was a runway excursion.
Hehe, how appropriate that you post this right on our "King's Birthday" long weekend here in Australia!
Love the content, keep it coming! 😻 For future reference, Islay is pronounced "EYE-luh", the "luh" part rhyming with "mutt". And unlike some other commenters, I think it's a reasonable mistake that you accidentally called him "the King of England" instead of "the King of the United Kingdom", since in the minds of many, England and the United Kingdom are synonymous... but this is an example of a case where it is not. ❤
When I first hear about it, the culprit was the prince of Wales.
No disagreement BUT he was TYPE CERTIFIED
King Charles learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
Islay is Pronounced "I LAY" and the King as he is now was a Qualified Pilot, after this Accident he Agreed with the Authorities to Retire from Flying. The Spoilers Deploy Automatically if Set but as the WOW Switch, (Weight on Wheels) is on the Main Gear and the Spoilers won't Deploy if you Dive into Mother Nature with the Nose Gear. Pretty Certain from the Report that i Read was that the Prince (King) was aware of the Tail Wind Component but Contined with the Landing Regardless Possibly as a Result of being Late.
No, it's pronounced I-LAH. Yours, a Scot.
@@christinemp7154 I have never heard of anybody pronounce it that way in the past, but I am sure that you are correct.
@@bagofnails6692 Totally correct..I should know as I used to live there back in the late 1950s!!
What the people above said. I went to work there and lasted 24 hours before running back to civilisation
It’s definitely “eye-lah” (not “eye-lay”). Anyone who knows anything about whisky will know this, you don’t even have to be a Scot! Type “Islay pronunciation” into Google and it will say it out loud!
Remember this story next time King Charles lectures you on your CO2 footprint.
I remember this. I was in Staffordshire at the time, and we were watching the film "Dances with Wolves" on the TV. A bulletin interrupted to tell about the crash, and they never got back to the movie.
The Royal Family does not have its own aircraft as such - these aeroplanes belong to 'The Royal Flight' which used to be based at RAF Benson (not sure if they still are - or even if Benson still exists [as an RAF base]). The aircraft are actually RAF property and are/were used to ferry the Royals around as and when necessary (in later years, they flew British Airways when possible). These 'Royal Flight' aircraft were always at the disposal of the RAF when needed logistically - in a similar way to the Royal Yacht Britannia which was actually a Navy ship and used as such, for instance during the Falklands conflict.
B.t.w. it's Islay, as in an island, not Iz-lay
The Royal Flight moved to Northolt back in the 90s. I was actually duty officer at Benson the day Diana died and was repatriated. In the afternoon I got a call to go to the main gate as scores of media had gathered there for the repatriation. I went out and announced they had 45 minutes to get to Northolt and they all jumped in their vehicles and took off down those narrow Oxfordshire lanes. That was also the day I learned that ‘half mast’ was actually two thirds of the way up, when I was instructed by telephone to go back and correct my schoolboy error.
@@XPLAlN Thanks for the update. I was only at Benson for a month in January 1987 then moved out to Europe.
It seems like a perfect combination of two common problems, fear to correct a superior and failure to go settings when too high and too fast.
The Captain was still in charge of the plane, and should have called off the landing way before.
good work
06:20 king in the left hand seat? Before you said that he took over for the First Officer.
I am a rated First Officer on the Boeing 737 NG and the A320 family. My seat is right. Is that different with the Bae?
The Royals fly with "The Queen's flight". I flew with them for 2 weeks. Their a/c use 15% less fuel than similar others - all polished nicely; extra maintenance etc. I learned to fly with HRH Prince Charles. He had his own Chipmunk painted bright red and was his own "Purple Airway", so no other a/c within 2miles. I had dinner with him and the UK Minister of Defence.
He should have gone to max power and overshot. It is ALWAYS better to be in the air where you have total control.
The Captain should have said, "I have control!" and Charles, "You have control." No buggering about.
I can't understand why they didn't go around.
@@eekee6034 Yes. And why let him do a landing on a short strip? In the RAF, no bullshit, no deference.
If I am the Captain, I make the decisions regardless of who owns the a/c. It is all about LIVING and not dying in a hostile flying World. Stick to the rules, always. Is a discipline; is what changes men/women into PILOTS - a bit stodgy; a bit boring; conservative; controlling. (Women hate us!) CAVU skies.
Sad, but this is the same story you've told many times... Also, 146 doesn't have reversers. Just strong brakes and spoilers. And with the main gear landing so late they activated WAY too late.
'...this is the same story you've told many times...': has MACI covered this event before?
@@htimsid you're being too literal. I mean the unstable approach, with a tail wind and poor CRM
What I like about this channel is the excellent videos.
Also, ahem.....the low standard of the comments.
Islay is pronounced I-LA there are videos on RUclips of the pronunciation. I like your videos a lot, keep them coming.
He wasn’t the King for another 30 years, there hasn’t been a King of England for over 300 years, the Royal Family do not own any private jets and I can forgive you for not knowing the airport is pronounced “eye la”.
1 We all know what he means
2 No one cares
3 The royal family own lots of aircraft but because they are said to be owned by the MOD, taxpayers have to foot the bill.
4 King Charles, best friend of Sir Jimmy Savile.
5 If they want it called eye la, then spell it eyela.
Hasn't been a King of England for over 300 years? What about George VI?
@@tobymassoom you mean the King of the UK and the British Commonwealth?
The UK includes England. He is thus by operation of fact the king in England.
Come to think of it, until we get a republic, you can just call him the king oy Canada for similar expediency
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 The UK includes the Isle of Wight why not call him the King of the Isle of Wight? He was not King of anywhere when this incident happened.
The captain of the plane is responsible one way or another. He should have ordered a go around, regardless of who was the first officer.
Yes. He was the experienced pilot. Anyone can call a go around. He should have when it wasn't a stabilised approach.
Was Charles type rated and current on the 146?
King Charles or Prince Charles then, learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
While taking in Western art at the Phippen museum in Arizona some years ago, I was introduced to BAE aircraft.
Several times during the morning, water bombers would depart PRC outbound, fully loaded with firefighting water, thundering mere feet above the roof of the facility. The art was dancing on the walls.
MINI!!!
Being Scottish born and bred we (& the Welsh and NI) get really annoyed when foreigners say things like "the current King of England".
He's the King of the United Kingdom which consists of Great Britain & Northern Ireland. You should know better!
And Islay has a silent s.
I don’t blame you. It’s not a small distinction; it’s a quite clumsy and uninformed error.
Yeah the whole point to this recording was to talk about one person and within seconds they had messed up his title, and disregarded 3 of the 4 counties in the union. Google is just there, just a button click away
I’m a foreigner (not from UK or Commonwealth), and it bothers me too.
"Any landing that you walk away from is a good landing"
That was a good landing.
unstable approach, what happened to the go around
Everyone but HRH faced consequences. Sounds about right. Wheelbarrow landings are not ideal.
With those ears, Charles does not need wings !
Should've opened the windows and used them as airbrakes!
you guys are too funny!
Concord...LMFAO.🤣🤣 Ilya.....
At first you say HRH was in the right hand seat and later you say he was in the left hand seat so which is it?
I d hate to be the pilot in charge giving Charles the run of the plane. I’m not saying Charles is a bad pilot, but the captain held his tongue when he should have taken control back, but when the King is flying there is a very good chance the captain could have ended his career by taking back control. His career and his copilot’s probably did end, because King Chuckles is not going to own up to crashing the plane. It must be nice to have power like that where the only person on board who counts and caused the mess has it swept under the carpet and lets the pilots take the blame. What a wanker.
THE KING WASN'T FLYING this was 30- years ago, it wasn't hidden, it was all over the papers and TV and contrary to what is implied here he was type rated for the HS/BAe146
1) It's pronounced Isle-a. 2) Everybody in the UK knew all about it - the crash was all over the news. 3) It happened the same day that the documentary where he admitted infidelity was broadcast, so doubtless foreign media were more interested in that. 4) The captain has absolute authority, and I've know few captains without the ego to say 'No' even to a senior royal. 5) Once again - Isle-a. It's the first line of the Wikipedia entry.
Ok, here’s my conspiracy theory. Charles intentionally caused this incident to take attention away from the infidelity story.
Or maybe Charles was distracted by the infidelity story and failed to concentrate on the aviation details.
…or maybe (and hear me out on this) Charles is , and always has been, a power-hungry chuffed bogart with an extremely inflated ego, excessive unsupported hubris and an incurably high opinion of himself in all aspects of his existence. England got the King they deserve; now they have to wait until he expires so that William can ascend the throne. 9:35
Another great video. Just one suggestion, you sometimes pronounce destinations nothing like how they are pronounced. The internet has many sites that will tell you how to pronounce a place. So eye-luh not is-lay, lay-goss not lag-oss, etc. Keep up the good work.
Funny that one of his Royal Navy instructors is alleged to have said, "fly with him, would not even walk under him" about his flying.
I worked at Buckingham palace and the gardeners hated him coming by helicopter, after he left they had to fill in the holes he made with his hard landings
Well, the findings of the investigation are absolutely correct. The captain is the captain and the now King Charles in this situation was a mere student pilot at best.
And not realizing, that the visual clues showed a hefty tail wind there, isn't prime time either (I am sure that the tower informed the crew about the wind when issuing a landing clearance).
And, oh, I once flew the Pope from Zurich to Lugano in a Saab 340. But as the captain it's still me deciding to land there or to divert to, say, Milano (well, the Pope wasn't present in the cockpit but sat in a specially furbished seat 🤭. Having a King or then Prince in the cockpit doesn't change a Yota about one's responsibility - there simply shouldn't be a power gradient...
I agree, the pilot is in charge and is to blame when a novice pilot is at the controls. I do find it interesting that HRH being at the controls was not part of the criticism in the report.
@@hephaistos681 lol no, no there isn't. If Jesus Christ himself is the passenger, the PIC needs to have the stones to tell him he's not touching the controls. If he can't, then hes not responsible enough to be the captain. PIC is 100% responsible for this.
A STUDENT PILOT AT BEST - It must be wonderful to not have the faintest idea about what you're talking about but think you do !
King Charles learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
The A330-MRTT Voyager VIP ZZ336 flight belongs to RAF 10.Sqdn and is an operational tanker that only occasionally doubles as a VIP aircraft. It's based at RAF Brize Norton, Oxfordshire alongside 101.Sqdn in the same role and six other squadrons flying the A-400 Atlas, C-130J Hercules and the C-17 Globemaster.
As for Islay, it is a really beautiful island, pronounced ‘I lay’.
'ai-lah'
@@htimsid sorry, blame autoincorrect on my phone for that one. My best friends daughter is named Isla after the island, but apparently when I try to type it right my phone says no, just like it tried to correct her name to Islam.
Can I trust anything said in this video when at 0:30 you assert that the Royal family sometimes use Concord ?
It's not 'is lay'. but Aye- lah.
Aren't you supposed to have rear speed brakes deployed during approach for the 146, as this aircraft does not have reversers? I could be wrong, but I thought that was in the MSFS versions manual. I know, its not the real thing, but just a thought!
Yes, great big bar doors that you open at about 50 foot
I’m a live sound engineer and whenever I have to do a gig on a console I’ve never used it reminds me how this would never happen to a pilot
I was in the RAF at the time He was in Training, he took at least twice as many hours as normal to master the basics, & even more on Jets (JP) , Nobody wanted to go near Him & any normal bloke would have been binned. He is Not the sharpest Tool in the Box, then or Now
I was posted to the Royal Flight and adamantly refused, even at the Threat of a courts Martial
I don’t understand why they are given the training when they will see limited to no action. I believe that William was a good helicopter pilot and earned his qualification but then only did a couple of years, part time, in search and rescue. It would have been better to train someone who could have had years, if not, decades of service
A couple of points.. You mentioned late in the video that the 'reverses' would not deploy due to the undercarriage not having firm contact with the runway.. The BA146 has no 'reverses'. It relies on 'clamshells' at the tail of the fuselage to open up, creating drag to assist braking. second point, I'm not 100% on this but I believe that the aircraft are not owned by the royal family.. they're in fact RAF aircraft that have been designated 'aircraft of the royal flight.. hence the colour scheme. The pilots are all RAF-serving officers. Why the captain didn't take over the aircraft late in the approach is difficult to understand.. I would certainly not have been intimidated by my VIP passenger in the right hand seat.. (I did on one occasion refuse an instruction from the president of a country to continue with an unsafe approach.. It's my @Rse sitting up front.
It was indeed the question asked 30 years ago when this happened, why didn't the Captain take control ! BUT Prince Charles was TYPE CERTIFIED for the HS/BAe146
King Charles learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
@@richardpeddie2060 Interesting, thank you.. I wasn't aware that he'd been typed on it. This still doesn't absolve the captain from his responsibility as the pilot in command. The POW may indeed have been type rated on the a/c but would not have been a regular flight crew member in regular practice.. As we all know, a few weeks, a month or two away from the cockpit and the cracks begin to show. The approach was a challenging one by any standards, the captain could, indeed should have diplomatically suggested that, under the circumstances, it would have to be a captain's approach and landing. Let the POW take it home.
I remember that happening. I remember the evening news on the day it happened. I was young. Oh and the isle of Isley, it’s pronounced
I Lay
Did Dan from 'nonstopdan' narrate this video?
Why the hell didn’t they TOGA ffs.
There isn’t a toga switch on the 146
If this had turned out worse, Andrew would be king today. Yeesh.
It would have to be a hell of a lot worse, William and Harry came before Andrew.
Nope! William would have been a boy king
@@X737_ so therefore Andrew would not have been King, thankfully.
NICE ONE
(Minute 6:09) "Physics just don't care for your titles." Brilliant!
Hmmm my comment gone ? As i said in my deleted comment, these jets are not "private" they are MOD aircraft.
Islay is pronounced "eye-lah"
I am old enough to remember this happening, I was a kid but I can remember it.
correction, no reverse thrust on these planes. brakes only. unlike the RJ, on the 146 in this case you need all gears weight on wheels for ground spoilers deployment plus a time delay.
King of England? So did he have permission to land in Scotland then? 🙃
No one cares about Scotland or Wales, it's all about the England.
Yea, I have pointed out that the title is wrong.
Scotland being in the same sovereignty as England, and in fact having the same sovereign, that would only be necessary on the same basis as any other local plane.
He is King of the United Kingdom - there are no separate titles for the constituent nations of the United Kingdom. The titles King/Queen of England & Scotland were abolished on the 1st May 1707, when under the terms of the Acts of Union the two separate realms of England and Scotland were dissolved and the new single realm of the Kingdom of Great Britain was created. Neither Wales (a principality) or Northern Ireland (politically defined province) have ever had a King or Queen other that the UK sovereign.
The Royal Family of the United Kingdom (not """England""") does not "have a private jet".
An aircraft from the RAF's 32nd Squadron (formerly known as 'The Queen's Flight') may be used by the sovereign when he travels long distances on official government business, such as King Charles's recent visit to Romania; the squadron is primarily used by the King for official visits to countries outside the larger Commonwealth realms. (If Canada wants their sovereign to visit, they send their own plane.) These days no other members of the Royal Family are allowed to use 32nd Squadron aircraft except in extraordinary circumstances, as was the case on the day Queen Elizabeth II died; they're expected to take regular passenger flights even for official duties. But the primary purpose of 32nd Squadron is military transport; they also transport diplomats and diplomatic pouches, senior elected officials such as the Prime Minister, and have even been used to deliver emergency supplies. The Royal Family is actually their very last priority!
Keep in mind, too, that the 'official duties' I mentioned above are assigned to members of the Royal Family by the government of the day. Charles didn’t visit Romania last week because he felt like it; Rishi Sunak sent him there, although the visit was probably scheduled months ago by Boris Johnson or Liz Truss. (The same goes for all official royal duties. Prince William isn’t out there inspecting the troops for fun; he's out there because the Army asked him to.)
And like him or not King Charles learnt to fly in the de Havilland Chipmunk and was qualified to fly a number of aircraft built by BAE Systems’ predecessor companies including the Harrier T.4, BAC Jet Provost, HS Nimrod, Avro Vulcan, Supermarine Spitfire, HS Andover, and the HS/BAe 146
I read about this incident in a book I've got on air accidents. Unfortunately I'm far from home right now but I'll be able to find the book late next week.
Once saw the queen's private jet coming into land into Norwich Airport as I was travelling by train. I remember it flying low and also completely burgundy painted with the crest on the tail.
Whoopdidoo my grand father was a pilot and he crashed at least 3 times. He was pretty much drunk each time but yeah 3 times. He could of been pilot in Navy but he couldn't put the bottle down so he ended up on an oiler/ Was the Prince flying back from Epstein's island?
Charles' sasuage fingers fumbled the throttles, I reckon! I don't think he had the dexterity to engage the reversers!
To quote Jesse from Fast and Furious - "You can't just climb into the ring with Ali because you think you can box!"
The 146 has no trust reversers. But it fits in with the "Royal Family" just to sit in a pilots seat and think they can fly the plane. And endangering lives. And the British public has to pay the bill. And the captain has to take the blame. Typical!
He may be able to fly a plane but he sure wouldn't land it. He should have taken responsibility.
@@jeanmcgahey1143 The captain should have interjected and said "Your highness, with all do respect, please do fuck off... My plane!" when it was clear he was overshooting the touchdown.
There are no reverses on the 146, only good carbon brakes, air brake and spoilers 🤪
@@Michelottob Well, he sausage fingered the spoiler and the split clam air brake... Probably should have known with the engines being that small.... derp... But sausage fingers...
Are those refueling pods at the back of the 146? Never seen them before on civilian 146 version.
They are DIRCM. They are active missile countermeasures. The royal flight aircraft are Air Force operated so carry them.
Those are it's air brakes, the type also had FULL WIDTH SPOILERS unlike many aircraft so it really didn't need thrust reversers. You must remember the design was not just for nice high quality ruways but also for not much more than dirt runways in Africa and the Far East, there was a perception of a reduced effectiveness with Thrust Reversers in those areas
They're not. The BAE-146 that this version is based on has a split tail airbrake. The two pods at the tail with black spheres on the Royal Flight were DIRCM and a flare dispenser.
@@dotChuckles That makes sense. So it was a military option.
@@Republic3D I'm not sure if it was across the board with all countries. But certainly the ones operated for the Royal Flight as VIP transport had them added. You see them on the current RAF VIP transport aircraft too. Pretty cool piece of kit. The dome spins round and fires IR laser light to burn out the seeker head of the missile.
1975-1979 Can recall Charles operated a private helicopter and sometimes let anne take off and land with no license. One of their security may have also piloted. When I recall him flying navy load lifters, he always was a third pilot more like a navigator. However he had the qualifications the risk of allowing him to be injured required such. 1976 During Ocean Operation Safari a naval helicopter was ditched from HMS Hermes. It wasnt his squadron and accident report listed engine damage. Not sure if he may have been onboard. He commanded HMS Hermes at times.
He probably had Jimmy Savile sat on his lap.
That'd be Prince Andrew.
@@PassiveSmoking No, prince Andrew was best mates with Jeffery Epstein, Charles was best mates with Jimmy Saville.... All just a terrible coincidence obviously.
Knowing as much as I do about the English, I think the co pilot wanted to take a break to have his tea and crumpets so he handed over control to the King. The King got distracted when sunlight glimmered off of the jewels in his crown and temporarily blinded him. He tried to regain control but it was hard to steer the yoke with one hand and hold his royal scepter with the other.
that is hilarious!
LOL, just L O L!
Love your sarcasm !
Obviously not a great deal then. Do tell me though old thing, which shoulder do you carry your chip on?
Did the narrator really say that the Royal Family 'sometimes uses Concorde'?! That's very unlikely - in fact, impossible - as Concorde has not flown for about 20 years. Since the fatal crash in France at the start of the century, the only Concordes are static museum-pieces. There is one like this at Manchester Airport.
... in backwoods (far) usa stated incident referred to as "recurrent tampon moment" (rtm) ....
I find it curious they held the pilots solely responsible for this crash. The sheer arrogance of Prince Charles to attempt to land an aircraft he had never flown is a critical factor in this crash. All parties need to thank their lucky stars no one was injured!!
The pilots bear ultimate responsibility for the safety of flight, and as such they also carry the authority to deny anybody who shouldn't be in the cockpit access, title be damned. For that lapse in judgement I feel they must face the consequences.
They were held responsible, coz they were. Its their aircraft, their responsibility. The captain should never have allowed Charles to pilot the plane, he had every right to refuse it, indeed the responsibility to do so. Let alone let an inexperienced pilot, who doesnt know the type, land the plane, let alone land it at a difficult airport. Then failing to supply important information, failing to call for a go-around, failing to take control.
Put in urself instead of Charles. Or me or any1 else. Would u be blaming the student pilot? Or would u be blaming the captain? Be honest. The captain is always, ALWAYS fully responsible for anything and everything on his aircraft, and his word is final. Yes, the inexperienced student pilot failed the landing. But the captain put him in that situation by failing on so many points getting there.
Hi Chris, Charles is a spoiled brat, pure and simple!
The captain is Responsible - but His Royal Highness (as he was at the time) was most certainly Accountable. Please refer to the definition of the acronym "RACI". I beg your forgiveness your Majesty, for pointing this out. I do, however, remain your most humble and obedient servant.
07:40 I thought this type of plane had no thrust reversers....
Charles being Charles, he definitely said "I can do it better, just give me the controls, PEASANT!"
Perhaps not in those exact words, but no matter the words he used that was what he meant.
Islay is pronounced 'Aye La'. Nice video, thank you.
He is not just the King of England!
Add Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Australia, Canada, NZ and so on!
Let me add, he has no direct male lineage to William the Conqueror.
😂 Possibly more related to a homeless German from Cologne than an Englishman.
I knew Charles could fly, but I had not heard of this incident. That does not surprise me, stuff like this gets hushed up all the time.
Hushed ? no, it wasn't hushed.
You must be joking! It was in all of the papers and the news. It was never hushed up at all.
Was never hushed up , was in all the papers at the time and on TV.