The Olive Tree in Romans 11
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Who or what is the olive tree in Romans 11? Is it the church? Is it Israel? Or is it some mystical truth that can't be pinned down? This video clarifies who the tree is from the context and related passages.
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Came to listen after Bro Chooch recommended. Wow this was excellent!! I didn’t understand this before. Praise God.
Glad you were encouraged!
Same here 👍🏼🎺🎺🎺
As much as I thoroughly appreciate the in-depth explanation of this passage, and who, what is the Olive tree; I never had difficulty understanding who this was. I often have debated with the Hebrew Roots movement, and this was a contested topic often. They inherently would say that Israel, of course, is the root that we all are feeding from. Which is why they lean so heavily upon the law, and their identity within Israel. But I always understood that the roots and the trunk had to be Jesus himself. Because Jesus is the only one that sustains us, praise be to God, holy is his name. Even though I already understood these things, it was enjoyable hearing your intelligent explanation.
Thank you for your encouragement! Glad to hear you had come to this conclusion on your own. May the Lord bless you in your efforts to serve and honor HIM.
Also please see this teaching on being grafted in to the olive tree. ruclips.net/video/ESk2lRGTpT4/видео.html
Im mew to this channel and i like this teaching.💯👍👋👋👋🐑🕎🕊
Hey Hajii! Welcome aboard!
Will recommend on my channel
Thank you very much!!
I came because Chooch recommended it. I enjoyed the teaching.
@@michaelnelson5872 Thank you for watching. Glad I was an encouragement!
Chooch. Thanks for recommending, brother..
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I had not heard this interpretation before. Very interesting ‐- thank you!
You are welcome, Marsha!
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I really enjoy your expectations of scripture. It makes a lot of sense to me.
Thank you very much! Bible teaching is my passion.
I enjoyed this Lee very much
Thanks Sean!
Thanks you are so thorough, just facts it's refreshing.
Thanks for the encouragement Scott! Keep looking up!
The entire Family of God!
Hey Jeremy! Nice to hear from you! You need to stop by for coffee this week! Text or call, bro!
Can I get scripture for where the Gentiles were promised blessing thru Jacob also?
I know I've seen it before but I am trying to relearn after studying mid Acts dispensation and also
Acts 28 as well and my brain is frazzled. thanks!
Gen 12:3 "I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed." Gen 22:15-18 "Then the Angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time out of heaven, and said: "By Myself I have sworn, says the LORD, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son- blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies. In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice."
Also please see this teaching on being grafted in to the olive tree. ruclips.net/video/ESk2lRGTpT4/видео.html
Once again you've expanded my understanding. I followed right along in agreement as you explained, but I never realised Adam and Eve were the first 2 branches. Of course it makes perfect sense. I'm getting FREE teaching from an expert. Wow what a blessing God has made you. Love Linda
Thanks for the encouragement!
Also please see this teaching on being grafted in to the olive tree. ruclips.net/video/ESk2lRGTpT4/видео.html
Passover is coming. Yeshua is coming.
Like the interpretation- just feel that you don’t have to yell 😌💚
He’s not, just lower the volume 😂
Also please see this teaching on being grafted in to the olive tree. ruclips.net/video/ESk2lRGTpT4/видео.html
I just subscribed to your channel I love it that you are for the truth I have a Question I know that the olive tree represents Israel but so does the fig tree correct? So is Israel both the olive and fig tree? I think Israel is both
I think the olive tree is the Messiah, that the branches of the earthly testimony prior to the church age were Israel, that the branches during this age are both Jew and Gentile, and that during the tribulation the branches will be Israel again with Gentile proselytes.
Also please see this teaching on being grafted in to the olive tree. ruclips.net/video/ESk2lRGTpT4/видео.html
Could you do a video on Matthew chapter 11: 11-12
Just did a brief outline. Will try to get to this in the near future.
@@Soothkeep awesome, thank you so much.
It's quite simple: the tree is "Team God". People can leave it, and enter it.
Very good exegetical teaching. Pastor, I really appreciate that you consider the audience at the time Jesus was walking the earth. It amazes me how some people juxtapose Israel and the Church. Serious eisegesis. It's obvious in the text the only crossover is Jews belonging to the Church. I'd love to hear about what the fig tree means. I have an idea, but I'd love to hear your point of view!
Thanks! I take the fig tree as "all these things" and not the rebirth of Israel. The rebirth of Israel is really the necessary stage setting for all these things.
@@Soothkeep Thank you. It didn't seem right to me that that reference to the fig tree had anything to do with the fig tree that was cursed. But I thought I might be missing something.
@@kimberlymoore8172 The fig tree subject can be confusing. Problems arise when folks want to make two different uses of the fig tree the same thing.
No where in the scriptures does it say the church is removed.
It clearly teaches that the church is raptured before the tribulation. People miss this because they believe the lie that there is only one gathering in the last days, not two. They point to Matthew 24 and claim the gathering of Israel is the rapture.
@@Soothkeep define “rapture” according to Hebraic and Greek understanding. As I said before nowhere does it that the church is removed. The removal of the church is completely contrary to Jesus own prayer “My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth. As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world.” Yet you follow a teaching that the church is taken out of the world, why?
@@lemnisgate8809 If you are so savvy in Bible prophecy, you should be able to tell me the arguments that I use to defend the pretribulation rapture. There are many good arguments for the pretrib rapture. You should know the history and usage of the Greek word harpazo. I shouldn't have to waste my time telling you. If you can't see the difference between the context of tereo ek in John 17:15 and tereo ek in Rev 3:10, then I am wasting my time trying to explain. The Bible is very clear that the church and Israel are distinct. It is clear that Israel will be gathered after the tribulation. It is clear that the church is in heaven already when the first seal is opened. It is clear that the physical temple is THE temple of God on earth during the tribulation. It is clear that God cannot own two temples down here at the same time. As the physical temple had to be set aside before the spiritual temple could be introduced, so the spiritual temple has to be removed before the physical temple can be the house of God. In every passage that shows saints in the tribulation, we see indications that they are Jewish believers. With all this clear information, why do you close your eyes and pretend the church will go through the tribulation? Why?
@@Soothkeep I don’t think I’m savvy at all i simple believe the word of God. I didn’t ask you to explain anything to me I know the truth because I know him who is truth, the question was rhetorical as is the following what is heaven? You’re interpretation of rapture; harpazo is deeply flawed I suggest you humble yourself and return to the text for clarity.
@@lemnisgate8809 My understanding of harpazo is flawed? Tell me what my definition is.
thats the two olives two witnesses and part of the eternal gospel song they sing
Isaiah 55 a new song of repentance from the two witnesses
Listen and come to me
Hear and your soul shall live
Seek the Lord while he may be found
Call him while he is near
Let the wicked forsake his ways
The unrighteous man his thoughts
Return unto the Lord
Our God will abundantly pardon
For My thoughts are not your thoughts
Neither are your ways my ways
Says the Lord our God
[Lam 3:40-41 KJV]
Let us search and try our ways,
and turn again to the LORD.
Let us lift up our heart with [our] hands
unto God in the heavens.
[Rom 11:33-36 KJV] 33
O the depth of the riches of
the wisdom and knowledge of God!
unsearchable [are] his judgments,
and his ways past finding out!
who hath known the mind of the Lord?
or who hath been his counsellor?
Or who has given to God
That He should repay?
For by him, and through him, and for him,
are all things:
to Him be the glory for ever. Forever and ever Amen.
Sow seeds of righteousness
Reap in mercy
Break up your fallow ground
Listen and come to me
For it is time
To seek the Lord
Till He comes
With the latter rain for you
You have plowed in sin
And reaped iniquity
You have eaten up lies
You trusted in your own ways
Vain imaginations and puff uppery
Thus says the Lord
Break up your fallow ground
How the two witnesses sing literal fire
Behold i come with fire
And a whirlwind
To render my anger with fury
And my rebuke
With flames of fire
For by fire and by my sword
Will the Lord plead with all flesh
And the slain of the Lord shall be many
Thats indeed what it seems the bible says. But their is no such thing as gentiles being grafted in. That is all based in mistranslations. Paul was talking about the lost tibes being reconciled and grafted in (again). That happened, for Paul preached to the lost tribes in Europe. Her called the greeks in Corinth his brothers, and all their father came out of Egypt. ( 1cor 10:1-3)
Gentiles (Greek ethnoi) refers to the nations and peoples not descended from Jacob. To translate this word Gentiles or nations is not a mistranslation. To understand it to mean nations or peoples not descended from Jacob is not a misinterpretation. While vast swaths of Jews from the northern tribes were lost, the ten tribes were never lost. There were people from every tribe in the Southern Kingdom of Judah. Paul and Peter both spoke to the scattered tribes.
Also please see this teaching on being grafted in to the olive tree. ruclips.net/video/ESk2lRGTpT4/видео.html
I beg to differ. The “natural” branches are Jewish believers. The trunk is the foundation of the nation. Matthew 3:10 clearly states if the tree does not produce it will be cut down. Of course it did produce the fruit of the church.
I didn't and don't deny that the natural branches are Jewish believers. And I don't deny that the trunk and roots are the foundation of the nation, if by that you mean the Messiah, who is the only foundation and redemption for Israel. There has always been a testimony on earth that centers on the promised Messiah.
The Trunk of the Natural Olive Tree = God the Father,
The Vine of the Natural Olive Tree = Jesus,
Natural branches= Israel,
Wild Olive Tree = The Church
Israel (Natural Branch)was broken off for disbelief,
The Church (believers, Gentile and Jews) are grafted into the Natural Olive Tree
Then the Natural Branchs will be grafted back into Natural Olive Tree.
Is this what you mean?
The olive tree (roots and trunk) is God, specifically the second person of the Trinity, the Son. The branches are the people at any given time who compose the testimony of God.
Are Gentile believers members of the commonwealth of Israel? Who was grafted into the cultivated olive tree of Romans 11?
Paul wrote that a true Jew is one inwardly with a circumcised heart. Is circumcision a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, and not by the letter? Is the inward Jew a member of the cultivated olive tree?
In the epistle to the Romans, Paul writes, “Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” Is the Israel that Paul talks about the same Israel as the cultivated olive tree?
In the epistle to the Ephesians, Paul writes about a mystery-that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus. Is this one body the cultivated olive tree?
Jesus said He has two folds and they will become one flock. Is the one flock of Jesus the cultivated olive tree?
Is there a spiritual Israel? What do you call the body of glorified saints who will rule and reign with Christ on earth? Are the glorified saints members of the cultivated olive tree?
Is the cultivated olive tree the Israel of God?
In Isaiah 49 the Messiah is referred to as Israel. Because gentile believers are in the Messiah, does that make them members of the Israel of God?
Are the sons of Abraham the Israel of God? Who are the sons of Abraham?
You cannot separate the sons of Abraham from the cultivated olive tree; they are Jew & Gentile counted righteous by faith--the "Israel of God." The eternal covenant community of YHWH. The saints of the Most High God.
To my mind, the olive tree or at least the root are Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the Patriarchs, which composed the fathers of Israel.
Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of *the fathers.*
Romans 11:28 NKJV
The natural branch is Israel. They will be grafted in again because they were broken off.
The wild olive branch that were cut off from the wild olive tree are the Gentile believers.
All Gentiles are considered to be outside the commonwealth of Israel. But once they believed, they are grafted in and became fellow citizens and members of the household of God.
Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh-who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands- that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord,
Ephesians 2:11-13, 15-16, 19-21 NKJV
That the olive tree is Israel including the partriarchs is commonly held. But a few things are problematic with that view. One, we get our holiness from the root, that means the root can only be the Messiah. Two, the Gentiles are not grafted into the commonwealth of Israel. What Ephesians teaches is that Gentiles who didn't share in the special blessings of the commonwealth of Israel now share in special blessings in "one new man." This is not the same old man but one new man. The root of the olive tree is the Messiah. The tree and branches are the Messiah's earthly testimony. This testimony goes all the way back to the garden and the first messianic prophecy/promise.
@@Soothkeep It's clear in the text that it talks only about the branch that is broken off, not the whole tree or the root, which to me is their fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The root cannot be broken off because God has made a covenant with them and that covenant is irrevocable.
For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if *the root is holy,* so are the branches. And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of *the root and fatness of the olive tree,* do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that *you do not support the root, but the root supports you.*
Romans 11:16-18 NKJV
In the above verse, it's clear that the root is not God. So it must be the fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
@@JesseMgala I agree that only the branches are broken off. That is my point. The patriarchs must be part of the branches too. They are part of God's testimony on earth. The roots cannot be human beings, not the patriarchs of Israel, nor anybody else. The roots make the branches holy. No man is made holy by other men. We are only made holy by the Lord Jesus.
A: The Lord Jesus Christ (John 15:1-8). Amen.
And the rapture of the church (Jew and Gentile) will happen after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31 - Exegesis).