The remark near the end about Eldlich’s summon effect is very important and the kind of reminder we all need from time to time. An excellent resource of a video as always!
I'm so glad there are not regionals going on for this decks release. I''m going to be playing Orcust Ogdoadic and I know for a fact I'm going to forget these effects so many times before I learn it. I'm the kind of person that forgets to put a destiny board piece on the board at the end of the turn lol
Tombox you forgot the interaction between nunu's gy effect and zombie World, none of the big snakes can be summoned from the grave while nunu special summoned by its effect and zombie World is on the field because everything in the grave is Zombie and nunu locks you to REPTILES!
@@MSTTV how would Nunu's restriction + zombie world work with the ED? Can I still attempt to summon Feral Simps or Echidna while zombie world is on the field?
@@DirtCheapFU the deck, just from what I counted, has up to 10 different variations. I dont think we will see the last of these Snakes for a long while.
Zohah and Keurse have made me consider maining D.D. Crow and Skull Meister just to prevent fatal card advantage for decks like Eldlich. Also, they are to prevent granting my opponent infinite handtrap uses.
@@alexYu-gi-oh Bad is relative, it just has the problem to give your opponent free resources and you have to work around that. And as it's just not possible all the time you need to compensate for it. It for sure isn't meta-relevant, but in competent hands it's really hard to play against Ogdoadic as you get punished for most actions you perform while facing an almost impossible to predict arsenal of tools to destroy you. The decks strength is it's versatility.
@@alexYu-gi-oh eh I use the lair variant and can easily beat even a meta relevant deck. Just gotta think big. However you are right in the sense the deck is way too balanced..
the best monster to bring with the amunessia effect is keurse, because besides him bringing another monster (preferably the nauya) the keurse does not trigger the effect that when it's summoned by your own effect, your opponent also summons a monster from the graveyard
Keurse’s revival effect could potentially have its uses. For example, I’ve been testing a small engine out in a Cipher deck to summon a Rank 8 off of a Nauya and any monster that you can summon to the field. So, Keurse can summon a monster to be stolen by Cipher Dragon or give the opponent a body for stolen monsters to attack.
Tombox: you choose the deck you must know what the cards do Me not knowing half of my cards effs after a year of playing the deck: yeah would be a shame if ive never fully read my cards...
Low key if you tell your opponent to read each card after you activate the effect and ask if they want to do anything and they choose not to read it and or say no that's on them. Not your responsibility as a player to remind them anything not gunna coach my opponent and be like hey I already told you to read the card but I'll tell you read it again cus you might want to take part in this optional effect.
The thing is, You are resolving your effect that causes your opponent to do something. If you do even say, would you like to special summon from gy or add from GY, that's misrepresenting game states.
@@MSTTV I'd get that if they were mandatory but being optional that's your opponents choice. You shouldn't be making decisions for your opponent. Not saying to hide the effect or dodge bringing it up but if you've seen them read the card during the match and they forget later when given time that's a misplays on their part not a cheat on your part.
@@billnye6291 During resolution, it is the effect owners responsible to prompt the timing due to the simple fact it is YOUR CARD. Even if they read the card, to maintain game state, you still have to prompt it as a part of the effect. You aren't coaching them to USE your card effect, You are simply resolving your effects properly.
Hé Tom a ruling question, when you have lair of darkness on the field and you activate one of the ogdoadic to tribute a monster, if you then tribute an opponents monster who has an effect that triggers when sent to the GY by an opponents card. Are they allowed to activate that trigger effect?
No, they are not allowed to trigger that effect. Tributing a monster for Ogdos is a *cost* , not an effect. So the opp monster is not sent to the grave due to a card effect and so its condition has not been fulfilled.
@@Ancor3 I’m not talking about a monster with the clause “sent to the GY by an opponents card effect” instead im talking about monsters with clause “sent to the GY by an opponents card” subtle difference but does matter
@@dannyboers4704 If the monster has the word "if" then they can always try to activate the effect after the resolution of the effects in a chain link, but monsters with the word "when" can't because the last thing to happen is the ogdoadic effect. Yang zing and dupe frog are good examples of cards that are known to miss the timing with their effects because of the word "when" in their text.
The deck feels like it needs more support before it can be played competitive. Kind of reminds me of infernoids and how for that deck it got better when we got the infernoid tuner, "That Grass Looks Greener", and the infernoid trap that helped to summon 3 infernoids from deck. Funny enough, infernoids did play invocation back then when they where playing 60 card decks.
I mean it can be played comp right now i see no reason why not. Is it a tier 1 deck? No. But a rogue deck it is. But yeh future support probably will stitch its issue in the future.
@@dansen2292 I like the deck, just I think it's gonna have a ruff time against the current meta right now. Also people still need to edit some of the combos for the deck. It's fairly new still.
I wish they didn't overbalance this deck so much, I don't even think it would have been meta without giving your opponent free stuff just for you playing
@@dansen2292 it's really hard for me to find a deck I like.. I loved SALAD .. NERFED, I Loved rocks..NERFED. I loved virtual world ... NERFED.. I really want to like the snakes.... TOO FAIR! I can't win with this game..
@@xxthatsamuraiguyxx I love the snake as is tbh. They ARE going to be unfair later on (deck has 13 foolish burial, stuff like that doesnt go to waste), but as of now they do cute stuff and its enough for me.
If I special summon Nunu with its own effect and creature swap it to my opponent will he be locked into reptiles? There might be some Potential with that Link 2 that switches Control and I already have an Combo with Orcust.
It's actually ruled in the ocg rulings that if the player special summons the nunu, that player who activated the effect will be restricted to only reptiles, even if the monster switches control, the player who originally activated the effect is still locked into reptiles while the new controller isnt.
@@MSTTV Yes, please, I bought almost the entire core to play with Orcust, but having diferent build helps. Since Im poor and I dont live in the US, so Aleister, Dragoon, etc are all out of my range ^^.
@@eduardoalvarez8442 no he probably just meant goodstuff traps. Lair is cute and good but unless it has a better searcher than Ahrima it wont do any good for this deck competetive wise.
I use things like warning point, Solemn strike, and sales pitch plus the 2 ogdoadic traps. Though I am also doing an infernoid build with the lair of darkness build.
@@eduardoalvarez8442 i put the trap cards down but I did take an idea from MST tombox shaddoll beast, nehshaddoll genius, 3 shaddoll fusions. I added to it though where I added predda plant cobra and 2 scorpio.
I think with Aleritt and Keurse your opponent has a responsibility to know what your cards do. Of course if they ask what it does or want to read it you have to be honest with them but if you summon back Keurse then ask them if they want to do anything and they say no you don't have to tell what their options are. I may be wrong on that but as I said feel like opponent has a responsibility to know what your cards do as well and if they don't know they can ask what it does/ask to read it, if they don't know what it does and they don't take initiative to ask what it does or to read it then thats just ignorant and you have no responsibility to inform them of their option to summon. It shouldn't happen often where they are that ignorant but when they are take the W lol.
Isn’t it up to your opponent to read cards too? If I say activate alieret effect, it’s also up to my opponent to read cards too. Do I need to copy and paste an effect on the DB chat? Or if In person I have to hand my opponent my cards everytime I activate an effect? Or are you saying if they ask you what the effect does people are only saying one part of the effect and not the full effect? (If that’s the case then yes I agree that’s misrepresentation of the game state). The downside effects are optional, so if I say “activate effect of x” and my opponent doesn’t ask any questions or they just say “ok” it’s not up to me to tell them “hey you get to do this if you want to”. That’s like how water lily has an option to special summon from grave if you have 5 or more reptiles with different names in the grave. That’s an optional thing. If my opponent forgot, or wasn’t thinking about it, it’s not my job to tell them they forgot an optional effect. Same thing with stuff like skarm in the end phase.
Oh it's up to both players, but the one who used the effect would need to tell their opponent they have something to resolve. Otherwise it's a clear case of misrepresented game state, hiding information to cause as disadvantage. in a remote duel setting it's not like the other guy can just pick up ur card out just be fully aware.
@@MSTTV okay makes sense, I was just a bit confused on the way you worded it. Yea if you’re going in on purpose and leaving out information when asked then yea I agree with you. But if your opponent doesn’t ask for clarification on what your card does and just says “ok” to everything is it my responsibility to tell them they have an optional effect if they want to resolve? I guess I’m a little too used to Duelingbook where my opponent has the same opportunity as I do to read a card. I guess in a remote duel sense you would either clarify the full effect of a card with your opponent (then if your opponent tells you only part of the effect then that’s a misrepresentation of the game state) or read the full card effect on neuron. But let’s say you read the effect on neuron and you just completely blank on the fact that you can gain advantage from your opponent activating the big ogdoadic monsters but you read the card. I don’t think at that point it’s the snake players job to remind you.
Konami doesnt LIKE Reptiles!? Nooooo, why would they hate a type randomly...? (GLARES INTENSELY AT ALL THE REPTILE ARCHETYPES THAT ARE BAD AND 15 YEARS OF WAITIN FOR SNAKE RAIN TO HAVE ANY USE!) You must be thinking of Dragons! /s
I start the play with lair of darkness and after that sent nunu, in some step I tell my opponent about the 2 effects that Keurse and aleirtt have. My opp says "ok, continue". Call effect of keurse but using one of the monsters my opp had, he stops the play then asked why didn't tell him that ogdoaidc can tribute all monsters on field. I replied "It's because lair of darkness not because ogdoadic cards". He wanted to stop everything and call the shop owner to tell that i'm cheating. I don't see why i need to clarify that use of lair of darkness with ogdoadic or i'm wrong?
They should've made reptiles good for a while, give them more balanced tools to mill from deck and then limit Snake Rain. Giving your opponent resources just to summon a monster feels bad, it makes me not want to play Ogdos even though I have 3x mint Snake Rain just sitting here doing nothing.
I said it before a lot, but the reason they nerfed them is probably cause everyone bitched about Block Dragon and Adamancipators. Imo, the deck is still solid nevertheless. Very Fair, I'll admit that, but not unplayable and definitely can get a whole lot better.
tom since your an editor / design artist can you give me some advice on my memes :) different effects transitions etc power bins to make and incorporate to make my overall quality better and more consistent
konami plz give us more alien support, the cosmic pincer link and the level 4 are great keep it up.... don't give us more ogdoadic trash plz ty... giving opponent free card n s***
@@dansen2292 meta standards of course. Is not hard to determine when a deck is bad just by reading its effects. Competitive yugioh has standards of what cards should do to become a good deck
@@darklaw7635 dragon link existed since 2018, and they saw barely any play until 2020. No one is gonna say Dragon link was a bad deck. Again, the deck you call *bad* has 12 Foolish burial with different flavors, access to R4NKs and R8NKs and a boss monster that is a boarwipe that doesnt destroy or target. Oh and 1 of said R8NKs can game ur opponent (Draglubion). And they dont have a type or archetype lock, so they have a high ceiling to improve on. And they synergize with any LV4 support, R4NK and R8NK support, Tribute support, and Chaos support. And they can play with 0 card in hand if all sneks get in the GY. Even sayin meta standards is deceptive. Shaddolls were not seen for the past 3 formats, yet now are tier 1/2, and nothin has changed for them beyond all the top decks bein nerfed. I will say that NOW the deck feels very unfavored, but calling it straight up bad is a bit of an overstatement when fricking generaiders, AN ACTUAL BAD DECK, saw competetive play.
@@dansen2292 this just sounds good. Like an advertisement for a the best product out there. The fact is it was released TODAY and the meta TODAY has standards we can use to determine whether this deck is bad or not. The fact that it is a deck that would do good in a alternative reality doesn't mean it's fantasy. The deck is bad compared to the meta standards and people want to win
@@darklaw7635 oh I agree. Much like how people didnt wanna play shaddoll for the past 9 months cause they wanted to win too. And that deck had much more clean advertisement, if you see it as that. Eh, I just disagree on the term bad is all. Decks dont magically become good or bad with format change. They are gatekeeped, sure, but not outright viewed as bad.
I thought I got a normal ad at first XD glad to see yugitubers getting sponsors
The remark near the end about Eldlich’s summon effect is very important and the kind of reminder we all need from time to time. An excellent resource of a video as always!
I'm so glad there are not regionals going on for this decks release. I''m going to be playing Orcust Ogdoadic and I know for a fact I'm going to forget these effects so many times before I learn it.
I'm the kind of person that forgets to put a destiny board piece on the board at the end of the turn lol
Tombox you forgot the interaction between nunu's gy effect and zombie World, none of the big snakes can be summoned from the grave while nunu special summoned by its effect and zombie World is on the field because everything in the grave is Zombie and nunu locks you to REPTILES!
Yes that's also a thing.
@@MSTTV how would Nunu's restriction + zombie world work with the ED? Can I still attempt to summon Feral Simps or Echidna while zombie world is on the field?
@@upnout2 you can still make monsters whose original typing is reptile. But not monsters whose type has already changed aka the gy
@@upnout2 that is why they like to use both rivalry and zombie world to enforce a zombie only lock.
Its like generaider, you force your opponent's actions to force activate your monster effects while maintaining control of the game
Surprised I havent heard anyone experimenting with Generaiders and Ogdoadic in order to punish and hand ripping with Jorm.
@@DirtCheapFU the deck, just from what I counted, has up to 10 different variations.
I dont think we will see the last of these Snakes for a long while.
@@dansen2292 If the banlist hits are good. This will be a great investment with its price range.
Thank you for this I had no idea how this deck plays or how to stop it now I have a better idea and what to look out for
Zohah and Keurse have made me consider maining D.D. Crow and Skull Meister just to prevent fatal card advantage for decks like Eldlich. Also, they are to prevent granting my opponent infinite handtrap uses.
Imagine playing hand traps just to counter your own cards lol. This archetype is baaad
@@alexYu-gi-oh Bad is relative, it just has the problem to give your opponent free resources and you have to work around that. And as it's just not possible all the time you need to compensate for it. It for sure isn't meta-relevant, but in competent hands it's really hard to play against Ogdoadic as you get punished for most actions you perform while facing an almost impossible to predict arsenal of tools to destroy you. The decks strength is it's versatility.
@@alexYu-gi-oh eh I use the lair variant and can easily beat even a meta relevant deck. Just gotta think big. However you are right in the sense the deck is way too balanced..
the best monster to bring with the amunessia effect is keurse, because besides him bringing another monster (preferably the nauya) the keurse does not trigger the effect that when it's summoned by your own effect, your opponent also summons a monster from the graveyard
Keurse’s revival effect could potentially have its uses. For example, I’ve been testing a small engine out in a Cipher deck to summon a Rank 8 off of a Nauya and any monster that you can summon to the field. So, Keurse can summon a monster to be stolen by Cipher Dragon or give the opponent a body for stolen monsters to attack.
Tombox doing the Egyptian gods work rn🙏
The funny thing about the water lily chet is it's artwork actually represents that quite well like a drop in the water and the waves are created
Tombox: you choose the deck you must know what the cards do
Me not knowing half of my cards effs after a year of playing the deck: yeah would be a shame if ive never fully read my cards...
That's just the same as being negligent
I suggest memorizing and reading cards.. otherwise you won’t be able to ever play competitively.. unless you only play for fun, then it’s up to you!
What you said in the last minute of the video matter the most! Thanks Tom!
Low key if you tell your opponent to read each card after you activate the effect and ask if they want to do anything and they choose not to read it and or say no that's on them. Not your responsibility as a player to remind them anything not gunna coach my opponent and be like hey I already told you to read the card but I'll tell you read it again cus you might want to take part in this optional effect.
The thing is, You are resolving your effect that causes your opponent to do something. If you do even say, would you like to special summon from gy or add from GY, that's misrepresenting game states.
@@MSTTV I'd get that if they were mandatory but being optional that's your opponents choice. You shouldn't be making decisions for your opponent. Not saying to hide the effect or dodge bringing it up but if you've seen them read the card during the match and they forget later when given time that's a misplays on their part not a cheat on your part.
@@billnye6291 During resolution, it is the effect owners responsible to prompt the timing due to the simple fact it is YOUR CARD. Even if they read the card, to maintain game state, you still have to prompt it as a part of the effect. You aren't coaching them to USE your card effect, You are simply resolving your effects properly.
Hé Tom a ruling question, when you have lair of darkness on the field and you activate one of the ogdoadic to tribute a monster, if you then tribute an opponents monster who has an effect that triggers when sent to the GY by an opponents card. Are they allowed to activate that trigger effect?
No, they are not allowed to trigger that effect. Tributing a monster for Ogdos is a *cost* , not an effect. So the opp monster is not sent to the grave due to a card effect and so its condition has not been fulfilled.
@@Ancor3 I’m not talking about a monster with the clause “sent to the GY by an opponents card effect” instead im talking about monsters with clause “sent to the GY by an opponents card” subtle difference but does matter
@@dannyboers4704 If the monster has the word "if" then they can always try to activate the effect after the resolution of the effects in a chain link, but monsters with the word "when" can't because the last thing to happen is the ogdoadic effect. Yang zing and dupe frog are good examples of cards that are known to miss the timing with their effects because of the word "when" in their text.
@@dannyboers4704 Then the effect does trigger, my bad
The deck feels like it needs more support before it can be played competitive. Kind of reminds me of infernoids and how for that deck it got better when we got the infernoid tuner, "That Grass Looks Greener", and the infernoid trap that helped to summon 3 infernoids from deck. Funny enough, infernoids did play invocation back then when they where playing 60 card decks.
I mean it can be played comp right now i see no reason why not. Is it a tier 1 deck? No. But a rogue deck it is.
But yeh future support probably will stitch its issue in the future.
@@dansen2292 I like the deck, just I think it's gonna have a ruff time against the current meta right now. Also people still need to edit some of the combos for the deck. It's fairly new still.
I feel like that overlord one is also on the opponent part to remember that their monster was summoned off overlord
I wish they didn't overbalance this deck so much, I don't even think it would have been meta without giving your opponent free stuff just for you playing
Blame Block Dragon. The amount of backlash Konami got from Block Dragon Adamancipator is why Ogdoadics got so nerfed.
@@dansen2292 but I love block dragon🥺
@@xxthatsamuraiguyxx well good for u he's banned. -_-
@@dansen2292 it's really hard for me to find a deck I like.. I loved SALAD .. NERFED, I Loved rocks..NERFED. I loved virtual world ... NERFED.. I really want to like the snakes.... TOO FAIR! I can't win with this game..
@@xxthatsamuraiguyxx I love the snake as is tbh. They ARE going to be unfair later on (deck has 13 foolish burial, stuff like that doesnt go to waste), but as of now they do cute stuff and its enough for me.
If I special summon Nunu with its own effect and creature swap it to my opponent will he be locked into reptiles?
There might be some Potential with that Link 2 that switches Control and I already have an Combo with Orcust.
Yes it would mean who ever controls it cannot summon anything but reptiles
It's actually ruled in the ocg rulings that if the player special summons the nunu, that player who activated the effect will be restricted to only reptiles, even if the monster switches control, the player who originally activated the effect is still locked into reptiles while the new controller isnt.
thanksssss this was helpful
What is your overall thoughts on the deck compared to the rest of the meta. Just seems like a nerfed version of DLink
Shaddolls make this deck a struggle
tho do keep in mind sanguine does have to option to summon from gy
but yes true golden lords effect does summon from hand
If it's the opening turn, I don't think sang is an issue.
Hey can you do a video on the top 10 cards you should buy before lightning overdrive??
Are you planning to make a deck list without aleister?
I have one, I am just thought people didn't want it
@@MSTTV Yes, please, I bought almost the entire core to play with Orcust, but having diferent build helps. Since Im poor and I dont live in the US, so Aleister, Dragoon, etc are all out of my range ^^.
I also want it, aleister being here feels like an intruder and id like other better ideas out of it.
I also want to see a deck profile without invoked and without dragoon and without anaconda. Pls make it.
I’m interested to see what you came up with
I would tell my opponent. But by the rules, you don't have to remind them of optional effects. I don't think you can fall a judge on that.
This is why I play the trap version. A lot of that stuff gets taken care of.
the laif of darkness one?
@@eduardoalvarez8442 no he probably just meant goodstuff traps. Lair is cute and good but unless it has a better searcher than Ahrima it wont do any good for this deck competetive wise.
okok Can you name yhe traps you use ?
I use things like warning point, Solemn strike, and sales pitch plus the 2 ogdoadic traps. Though I am also doing an infernoid build with the lair of darkness build.
@@eduardoalvarez8442 i put the trap cards down but I did take an idea from MST tombox shaddoll beast, nehshaddoll genius, 3 shaddoll fusions. I added to it though where I added predda plant cobra and 2 scorpio.
I think with Aleritt and Keurse your opponent has a responsibility to know what your cards do. Of course if they ask what it does or want to read it you have to be honest with them but if you summon back Keurse then ask them if they want to do anything and they say no you don't have to tell what their options are. I may be wrong on that but as I said feel like opponent has a responsibility to know what your cards do as well and if they don't know they can ask what it does/ask to read it, if they don't know what it does and they don't take initiative to ask what it does or to read it then thats just ignorant and you have no responsibility to inform them of their option to summon. It shouldn't happen often where they are that ignorant but when they are take the W lol.
I have a question; should the ogdoadic player constantly remind your opponent? If told once and they don’t do it after, is that cheating?
Isn’t it up to your opponent to read cards too? If I say activate alieret effect, it’s also up to my opponent to read cards too. Do I need to copy and paste an effect on the DB chat? Or if In person I have to hand my opponent my cards everytime I activate an effect? Or are you saying if they ask you what the effect does people are only saying one part of the effect and not the full effect? (If that’s the case then yes I agree that’s misrepresentation of the game state). The downside effects are optional, so if I say “activate effect of x” and my opponent doesn’t ask any questions or they just say “ok” it’s not up to me to tell them “hey you get to do this if you want to”. That’s like how water lily has an option to special summon from grave if you have 5 or more reptiles with different names in the grave. That’s an optional thing. If my opponent forgot, or wasn’t thinking about it, it’s not my job to tell them they forgot an optional effect. Same thing with stuff like skarm in the end phase.
Oh it's up to both players, but the one who used the effect would need to tell their opponent they have something to resolve.
Otherwise it's a clear case of misrepresented game state, hiding information to cause as disadvantage. in a remote duel setting it's not like the other guy can just pick up ur card out just be fully aware.
@@MSTTV okay makes sense, I was just a bit confused on the way you worded it. Yea if you’re going in on purpose and leaving out information when asked then yea I agree with you. But if your opponent doesn’t ask for clarification on what your card does and just says “ok” to everything is it my responsibility to tell them they have an optional effect if they want to resolve? I guess I’m a little too used to Duelingbook where my opponent has the same opportunity as I do to read a card. I guess in a remote duel sense you would either clarify the full effect of a card with your opponent (then if your opponent tells you only part of the effect then that’s a misrepresentation of the game state) or read the full card effect on neuron. But let’s say you read the effect on neuron and you just completely blank on the fact that you can gain advantage from your opponent activating the big ogdoadic monsters but you read the card. I don’t think at that point it’s the snake players job to remind you.
Konami doesnt LIKE Reptiles!? Nooooo, why would they hate a type randomly...?
(GLARES INTENSELY AT ALL THE REPTILE ARCHETYPES THAT ARE BAD AND 15 YEARS OF WAITIN FOR SNAKE RAIN TO HAVE ANY USE!)
You must be thinking of Dragons! /s
I start the play with lair of darkness and after that sent nunu, in some step I tell my opponent about the 2 effects that Keurse and aleirtt have. My opp says "ok, continue". Call effect of keurse but using one of the monsters my opp had, he stops the play then asked why didn't tell him that ogdoaidc can tribute all monsters on field. I replied "It's because lair of darkness not because ogdoadic cards". He wanted to stop everything and call the shop owner to tell that i'm cheating. I don't see why i need to clarify that use of lair of darkness with ogdoadic or i'm wrong?
You aren’t wrong, his fault for not reading the cards
You only get to tribute one monster you still have to give the rest
Wow
In other words, don't become a Reptile.
In other words, return to monke.
Hate to be that guy, but the lights are the males and the darks are female. Nunu is male.
They should've made reptiles good for a while, give them more balanced tools to mill from deck and then limit Snake Rain. Giving your opponent resources just to summon a monster feels bad, it makes me not want to play Ogdos even though I have 3x mint Snake Rain just sitting here doing nothing.
I said it before a lot, but the reason they nerfed them is probably cause everyone bitched about Block Dragon and Adamancipators.
Imo, the deck is still solid nevertheless. Very Fair, I'll admit that, but not unplayable and definitely can get a whole lot better.
Skip that shit 3:01
I would think that giving your opponent cards might be very helpful if you were playing appropriate
To be fair, shouldn't the opponent know your card effects as well
No your opponent is not required to know how your deck works only their own.
@@SnivyTeamLeader true but I feel after all the years of stuff we’ve gotten.. read cards period.
tom since your an editor / design artist can you give me some advice on my memes :) different effects transitions etc power bins to make and incorporate to make my overall quality better and more consistent
My advice, look at MBT, Nymhnim, or farfa.
@@MSTTV much appreciated tombox I will do 😊
konami plz give us more alien support, the cosmic pincer link and the level 4 are great keep it up.... don't give us more ogdoadic trash plz ty... giving opponent free card n s***
I know that this is a miss play video but you claims at the start aren’t that hard to rap you head around since it on the card
Basically the deck is bad
Bad by what standards? Generaiders saw play and they were legit about giving ur opponent stuff and capitalizing on it.
@@dansen2292 meta standards of course. Is not hard to determine when a deck is bad just by reading its effects. Competitive yugioh has standards of what cards should do to become a good deck
@@darklaw7635 dragon link existed since 2018, and they saw barely any play until 2020. No one is gonna say Dragon link was a bad deck.
Again, the deck you call *bad* has 12 Foolish burial with different flavors, access to R4NKs and R8NKs and a boss monster that is a boarwipe that doesnt destroy or target. Oh and 1 of said R8NKs can game ur opponent (Draglubion). And they dont have a type or archetype lock, so they have a high ceiling to improve on. And they synergize with any LV4 support, R4NK and R8NK support, Tribute support, and Chaos support. And they can play with 0 card in hand if all sneks get in the GY.
Even sayin meta standards is deceptive. Shaddolls were not seen for the past 3 formats, yet now are tier 1/2, and nothin has changed for them beyond all the top decks bein nerfed.
I will say that NOW the deck feels very unfavored, but calling it straight up bad is a bit of an overstatement when fricking generaiders, AN ACTUAL BAD DECK, saw competetive play.
@@dansen2292 this just sounds good. Like an advertisement for a the best product out there. The fact is it was released TODAY and the meta TODAY has standards we can use to determine whether this deck is bad or not.
The fact that it is a deck that would do good in a alternative reality doesn't mean it's fantasy. The deck is bad compared to the meta standards and people want to win
@@darklaw7635 oh I agree. Much like how people didnt wanna play shaddoll for the past 9 months cause they wanted to win too. And that deck had much more clean advertisement, if you see it as that.
Eh, I just disagree on the term bad is all. Decks dont magically become good or bad with format change. They are gatekeeped, sure, but not outright viewed as bad.